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The Herd with Colin Cowherd
THE HERD - Hour 2 - Herd Hierarchy, Dak Prescott is playing like a MVP, Chiefs should be fine, Nick Wright
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Learn more@michelinman.com y michelinnovation Michelin Motion for Life thanks for listening to the Herd podcast. Be sure to catch us live every weekday on Fox Sports Radio and noon to 3 Eastern, 9am to noon Pacific. Find your local station for the herd@foxsportsradio.com or stream us live every day on the iHeartRadio app by searching Fox Sports Radio or FSR. Now let's get this party started. You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. Here we go. It's hour two. We are firing on all cylinders. It is great to be here today. It is A Tuesday, a rod. Last hour. Yank season on the brink tonight. Dodgers up to nothing. Milwaukee's a machine. Probably gonna get a Brewers. Dodgers. Nlcs. That's interesting. I'll take that. J. Mac. In the first hour, I stated that Jacksonville will not, despite a glossy 4 in 1 record, make the herd hierarchy. I have them at 11 out of respect for Trevor Lawrence. They are ridiculous and were outplayed and outgained and I don't think the team that wins the game is always the best team. So I just said that I can respect somebody and you can win a game, but Kansas City was a better team last night. And with that, I'm going to move into my herd hierarchy, which for the record, is one of my best ever. Here we go. Herd hierarchy. Time is now. Let's go. The top 10 NFL teams according to college. Number 10 most underrated team in the league. I've been on it for a month. Is the Colts should have beaten the Rams. Lead the NFL and point differential, fewest sacks surrendered, most efficient scoring offense. I mean, they barely had the ball against the Raiders and they drop a 40 burger. Their offensive line slowed down the Rams defensive front, they've got a ceiling. It's Daniel Jones. They've got a ceiling. But they're going to end up hosting a playoff game and they're going to get somebody like Kansas City or Denver. And I'm telling you right now, you don't want to play this team. Jonathan Taylor behind that old line, behind that play calling behind Warren and Pittman and this is a good team. This is a good roster. Colts at 10, number nine. Here's what worries me about the Rams. They are very Puka Nukua reliant on offense. And the problem is both their running backs, Blake Corum and Kyron Williams have ball security issues and McVay doesn't trust them. So that's not going away. They have got to develop tight end and Devonte Adams fast. Yes. Their offense leads the NFL in yards for play at 6.4. They're a very good team, but I gotta watch them the next two weeks. They had. They had that Niners game and blew it. And the Colts outplayed them. Rams at nine, number eight. I think Kyle Shanahan is having his best year as a coach. I mean, they don't have Purdy, Iuk, Kittle Jennings, Nick Bosa. They're three and oh in the road. Mac Jones looks like a Pro Bowler. This is great coaching. Now they're the only team averaging 40 yard, 40 passes a game. Now think about that with Mac Jones. There's no substitute teacher here. They're asking Mack to throw it 40 times a game. Christian McCaffrey touching it more than I want him to. Cross your fingers on his health, but coaching matters. And Shanahan could be coach of the year. Right now, he's coaching his butt off. Number seven. Bills don't look right. They just defensively can't stop the run. I don't worry about the offense. I don't. But they just don't have that force, that jet fuel they've had in recent years. They can't stop the run. And I just. When I watch him against New England, I'm like, boy, New England closed the gap kind of quickly, didn't they? I thought New England was going to get there in about another three or four games against the Bills. So I have him at seven. Number six. Don't worry about Green Bay. Can we stop with a Jordan Love criticism? Eight touchdowns, one pick and 113 passer rating. They're a young team that can't figure out a way to close out inferior teams twice. Seattle's the second youngest team. Seattle's thrown games away against the Niners and Buccaneers. Young teams struggle in close games until they figure out how to win. Mike is having a year. The schedule get Carolina's coming up, the Bengals, Arizona, they're going to go on a heater. They are just fine. Green bay at six. Number five. Listen, the chiefs, they're good, better team. Last night, 7.6 yards of play. A team that had averaged 7.5 yards of play had won 33 straight games. Mahomes threw a pick six because he did not see Devin Lloyd. He didn't see him. Mahomes is great. Unbelievable. Keep your eye. When Rasheed Rice comes back, Smith, the young player out of Miami, worthy. Kelsey, this wide receiving core is going to get really good, really fast. They had a bad pick 6. This team is good situationally. They're outstanding. They're great. When they get down to the red zone, I don't buy it. If you're selling stock on Kansas City, I am buying all of it today. Number four, Philadelphia. Listen, you can't be 29th in yards per play and be a top two or three team. I don't care about their roster. They've got an offensive coordinator issue now. Once they get into the red zone because of the tush push, it's pretty fearsome. And they don't, you know, I mean, Jalen hurts most pass attempts by any quarterback without a pick. He doesn't make a lot of mistakes. But they are struggling to get their best players the ball. That is a coaching issue. A.J. brown needs 13 targets. Barkley needs 13 to 15 carries. He had six this past weekend. Philly at four, three. Denver, two combined losses, four points. Denver's roster is good. We all know the good rosters in this league. Nobody just mentions Denver. They lead the NFL in sacks, the number two scoring defense. No team in the league does a better job of protecting their quarterback and getting to yours. Bo Nicks never get sacked five times all year. And Bo Nicks is a way better athlete than anybody wants to admit. And now they face Denver faces six straight teams without a winning record. So watch out. Denver is getting better by the week. We picked him to beat Philly and Philly and they did number two. I'm going to give it to Tampa, folks. Going to Seattle and putting on that offensive clinic. Emeka Igbuka. Folks, we have a star, period. We got a. We got an offensive rookie of the year. Baker Mayfield still has a chip on his shoulder, but he's using it as fuel to get him fired up. He's not reckless. He's not throwing interceptions. He's playing. He's always been a smart kid. He's playing very smart football. And they're doing it without Bucky Irving and Mike Evans. So this team's doing that. Not fully loaded. Tampa two, number one. I don't think the NFL has a great team, but the NFL does have a complete offense. O line, running back, room, tight end, wide receiver, quarterback. Detroit's offense is absolutely devastating and it's built to beat really superstar quarterbacks, really good quarterbacks. I mean, Jared Goff, right now it is pitch and catch. It looks like a seven on seven summer drill. And this is what they're doing that they haven't done in previous years. Second in sacks, third in takeaways. Their defense is not great, but they're taking the ball away. I do not think we have a great team right now in the league, but I do think Detroit offensively is about as good as you can be in 2025 with an expensive quarterback and a rigid cap. That's about as good as an offense could look. That is my herd hierarchy. Jacksonville at 11. That was a ridiculous win. Kansas City's better. And Nick Wright weekdays. First Things first is joining us live.
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Wow.
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Wow, wow, wow, wow.
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That was great. No, that was great. First of all, let me apologize to the audience for a moment. If I look a little sweaty, it's because I Am. And when you hear guys who love what they do for a living say, oh, I, you know, I'd rather be at work. It's not only because we love what we do, because there's no first things first today. It's because as it happens, the days we have off work, our wives assign us things like yard work. Colin I live in the middle of Manhattan. I don't have a yard yet. I've been out in whatever our yard is for 90 minutes digging out plants. I don't even. I'm sweating still. I. It's been 30 minutes later. I don't know why I'm still sweating. I'm not built for manual labor. I'm going tell you that right now. I got no makeup. I've been out in the heat. So. Okay, but that. Which is why the hierarchy column was such a pleasant surprise. Because I was a little sad last night. But I. Here's why. So let me. This is a very weird reversal. Let me give the concerns about the Chiefs and then respond to what you said. They what makes the Chiefs special is they don't blow games like last night. While they maybe don't blow teams out as often as the Lions or the Bills over the last few years. They have a 14 nothing lead. They win that game.
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And so that was disappointing. And the penalties and the special teams mistakes. That was a bad loss that could, you know, could hurt them in the state. It does hurt them in the standings and seating and all of that. But your bigger picture point, which is over the last two and a half games from the second half of the Giant game to right now, that offense looks the best it has looked in three years. Yep. And they're getting Rasheed Rice back. Patrick finally trusts his offensive line.
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And is once Rasheed comes back, it will be the best collection of pass catchers they've had since Tyrique was on the team. So all of that is super positive. They need a more consistent running game and they need a better pass rush without having to send a blitz.
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You know what?
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Go ahead.
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There is one thing and I said this. You have to make choices as a team. So when you pay Chris Jones and Mahomes and Kelsey. What, what they have right now is they have a youth problem and they're putting guys on special teams and they're trying to teach them how to play football. And it's by the way, Buffal, you've got to make choices. They can't defend the run because Detroit's front office is great and because They've hit on so many stars in the first round. Detroit's offense is literally a Pro bowl offense. But it's hard. And so I think they're playing. I watched them last night and I'm like, these are correctable mistakes. When these guys have played 12 NFL games or 15, they're just making 23 year old guy mistakes, Jacksonville's mistakes. I've watched that for 20 years. That's who they are. Yeah.
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Well, listen, and you know I love Trevor and last night was the full Trevor experience. The past Brian Thomas, the running, like reminding you of Clemson and then just some plays that I really thought Troy Aikman might be like, guys, I need to take a quarter off. I can't watch. I can't deal with it. Like Troy, Troy gets so frustrated at really talented quarterbacks, missing layups and so you got the full thing. That was the best win for Jacksonville since they beat everyone's future hall of Famer Justin Herbert in a playoff game. And so I give them, you know, I give them a lot of credit. I agree with you on the Chiefs. Let me say something about the Broncos real quick because I find the Broncos and the packers to be in a very similar situation. Okay, Great defenses, yes. Really sharp coaches. Obviously LaFleur has an accomplishment. Sean Payton, AS, but they're both excellent coaches and their two quarterbacks are two of the most influential and interesting players in the league this year because if they get solid turnover free play from their quarterbacks, those are super dangerous teams. Now I believe in Love's upside more than Bo Nix's. But Love also is more likely to have a three interception game than B Knicks.
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And so the, the Broncos, if they b Knicks for three quarters against Philly, did nothing and then in the fourth quarter did everything. If they can just get 80% of what he gave them in the fourth quarter, they're legit. I'm skeptical of that, but if they can, they're legit. And shout out to you and Baker. I, I just can't wait until he's back on the show. It's going to be such a beautiful moment. You know what, I'm so excited.
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You know what? So people, I think you know this about me.
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I do. Yeah.
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But the audience doesn't know this about me. I, I, I'm, I have gray hair now. And an important thing for me is to be, I like to be part of people's success story. Young people. Danny Parkins, are you like J. Mack? I like that. It's fun. It's that's when you're a gray hair. That's the responsibility because people help me. So people think that I've rooted against Baker and I didn't like Cleveland Baker. I thought he was too cocky. I love Tampa Baker. I love him. He's one of my favorite players. I said yesterday I'd vote him mvp. Yeah, Dak or him. And, and the thing I like about Baker is that I think a chip on your shoulder. Michael had it to the end. Brady had it till the end is valuable. Don't let it turn you into a grudge holder or a reckless player. Baker has gotten rid of the reckless and I, I, when I watch him, I said this yesterday. If you'd have never seen Darnold in New York or Baker in Cleveland and you watched Sunday, you would have thought they were Brady and Manning. You would have.
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It was a great game. It was a great game and a great duel and it is. Listen, you are, you are part of Baker's story and like for, for good or for bad, your part of his story and your criticisms while at the time, you know, we argued about it then I thought, you know, were maybe harsher than I would have done. They weren't rooted in fake and falsehood like they were rooted in, in something real. He matured and also continued to improve. And part of the stuff that rubbed people the wrong way is also part of the reason you can get cut by the Panthers and still believe I'm awesome and I'm gonna prove to the world I'm awesome. A less confident player that would have broken them. And so this is a great. And you're. Listen, he, he deservedly right now would be the league mvp.
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Dak is trying to follow the Joe Burrow path last year of the team's mediocre. But my numbers are unbelievable. Baker's been unreal. And there is, I want to say something about. Because you said he got rid of the reckless. There is still some reckless, but it is with so many explosives you can deal with it.
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And this is actually kind of a Josh Allen piece because Josh over the last two years got rid of the turnovers and also really cut down on the explosive deep passes which is has made the team more efficient and more reliable. But it's also why now they are oddly less equipped to deal with if he turns it over. Three years ago, if he turned it over, they were like, okay, we built that into the game plan and he's got. We're going to have a three play, 80 yard touchdown drive coming up Next he for, for the. If you are Baker, you can average one pick a game like you did last year because you lead the league in touchdown passes. You, you, you can have some turnovers. If you have a bunch of explosives, if you're going to be conservative with it, then you really got to take care of the ball.
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So generally with quarterbacks, if you consider their career a book with let's say 15 chapters being 15 years, the average, the great ones play, you know Mahomes by the start of chapter two, year two you're like well okay, that doesn't look like anybody else. Brady was probably Chapter four, Josh Allen, chapter three, Lamar late chapter one you're like oh boy, that's going to be a problem. And I was thinking about this the other day. Dak is in a very weird spot because I didn't, I thought he was overhyped early. I thought he had the best O line and the best running back. And then he got Amari Cooper. I think I figured Dak out and it's like chapter 11 and in here's what it is. I know I've never thought of a quarterback. It took me 11 chapters. Zach Martin left. Des left. Amari left. Zeke left. Mike McCarthy left. Jason Garrett left. Everybody leaves him. And every time he wins double digit games. And now he's got Schottenheimer, arguably his weakest, most unproven head coach. He looks unbelievable. He doesn't have a number one receiver or a number one tight end. The O line still in a rebuild. The running back rooms better than last year, but not elite. Not Detroit. I think it took me years to figure out is that everybody has a superpower. With Jalen hurts, it's his strength. With Josh Allen, it's his size. With Mahome it's a lot. But it's arm talent. Same with Stafford. With Dak it's a combination of IQ and eq. He is so self aware, so egoless with the biggest ego owner is that I watch Dak and I'm like God, it took me 12 chapters to figure him out. Is that in this circus known as the Cowboys, he's the grown up. He is, he is the, the constant. Yes.
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So let me add something to that because list Dak has been phenomenal, phenomenal. And the first two weeks of the year he had like a bad passer rating and his numbers weren't that good. And that was a good test of are do people actually watch games if they weren't, if they were like ah, Dax been okay. Dak. Dak has been awesome.
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Awesome.
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From the first game of the first pass of the first game to right now, like that Eagles game. He phenomenal. I don't care what his numbers were. He was phenomenal. He's been great. So to add to that because, you know, I'm. I'm a big believer with quarterbacks that there definitively is such a thing as, you know, a big game quarterback. Guys who elevate in the biggest spots and guys who shrink, all of it. Dax biggest criticism, fair or not, I think it's been mostly fair. Has been in the biggest spots, under the most pressure. He doesn't play his best. So it absolutely narratively would make sense that this year, the year that going into it, he's been under arguably the least pressure, the team had the least expectations. They trade Micah, there's a rookie head coach. Nobody's putting the Cowboys in the super bowl that he can play as freely as he's ever played. He's on something of like for the first time in a very long time, a reputational free role this year where if the Cowboys are bad, it's not on him because the defense has been so awful and when they're good, he. He's got to do it all. And so he is playing to me with less tension and stress than maybe any other moment of his career. And he's been phenomenal. I like truly phenomenal. If it were true, if we didn't care about reputation or resume right, one could argue that the three leading MVP candidates at the quarter poll of the season would be Baker Mayfield, Dak Prescott, and I can't believe I'm saying this, Daniel Jones. Like those three guys, like if, again, if it was totally contextless, would probably be the three candidates and credit to all of them. And Dax been great and he makes the Cowboys scary because the Cowboys right now are a team that can definitively lose to anyone. When you have a defense that bad, yeah, anyone can beat you and can beat anyone. When you have an offense that good, even when they're missing CD Lamb, they can beat anyone. It makes them really interesting. In a year I did not expect.
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They would be the finally on the Eagles. I've said this before. Sometimes in life you have a problem. It's like this is hard to figure out why me and my wife are fighting and you have to go to therapy. And then there's the problems where you're like, oh, yeah, that's easy. The Eagles are 12. 0 since last year when they throw it less than 25 times, throw the ball Last run more. That's always the answer in Philadelphia. Saquon Barkley touched at six times Sunday and they were leading by two touchdowns. Is this the moment when, when Eagle fans have to acknowledge that Sirianni's been kind of riding on the coattails of a great GM and a highly functional quarterback?
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So there's a lot here, man. And I'm glad you brought up, you know, marriage counseling, because I heard the story yesterday that Jalen AJ and Saquon got together and hashed out what's been going on. And then I heard the end of the report, which is the meeting lasted for a little over two hours. And you know what I said? And people can get mad and Eagle fans can tweet this and aggregate it and say, oh, Nick's being unfair. They know I'm right. Two hour meeting too long. You know, marriage counseling is 55 minutes. Your whole life's on the line. Anything that is not resolved by minute 45 is not getting resolved minute 98. So that I didn't love that report, I was like, all right, there's this. That's first thing. Second thing is, and I'll bring up marriage again. It seems like Kevin Patullo keeps over correcting in various directions. Like when your wife gets mad at you is like, you don't buy me flowers anymore. And then you bring her flowers every day for a week. And by the end of the week she's like, all right, enough, you're overdoing it. I said, like, the problem was we're not passing. We're not passing enough. So in a game you're leading, you'd call two design second half runs. So the Eagles are objectively, Colin, an excellent team. They have an excellent roster. They have the most expensive offense in the history of the NFL. And they have a top five offensive line, a top five running back, top five receivers, and a really good quarterback. I don't know where you want to rank him, but. Which makes it so unfathomable that in their last six halves of football they have either had less than 8 yards rushing or 8 yards passing in three of them.
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Half of the last, they've only played how many halves all year to 10 halves all year. And in three of the last six, they have been totally non existent on one side, you know, in one facet of the game. And here is why I think it is fair to be a little concerned. It reminds me a bit of two years ago when they started 10 and 1, but it was so angsty. And every game they Won, but it was like, yeah, but. Yeah, but. And what that led to was a historic collapse where they went from 101 to losing six of their final seven and basically giving up in the playoff game. I don't think that's coming here for Philly, but I do think they need to have the ability to just have one normal offensive game, and they seem to be struggling with that.
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Yeah, yeah. Yard work is fascinating in Manhattan. There's not a lot of yards. I mean, there's.
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That's what I'm saying. No, no, we've got. We've got, like, we've got. Listen, I'm very fortunate. We have nice little outdoor spaces here, but it's. It doesn't. There's.
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We have.
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I'd set the over. Under of plants or in this house or on the outside at 47 and a half, and somehow I was assigned digging them out. And I. And I kind of wanted to look at her and be like, baby, I love you so much, but you do know who you married, right? That's like, am I a guy that really exudes yard work is my strength? So, no, I'm still sweating. I don't know. I might have to. We were off the air today. We're supposed to be back tomorrow. I might have to call in sick. I don't know if I'm going to recover. This is tough.
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I. I tell my wife about twice a year when she asked me to do yard work, I'm like, honey, I've got to entertain America tomorrow.
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Exactly right.
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I've got it.
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Listen. And the, the I. That. I'm simulating the economy. I can hire a professional to do this. It's their, it's their job. It helps everyone, including me. All right, I'll see you, Colin. I gotta. I gotta go plant a tree in the cement.
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See ya. There you go. Weekdays. First things first. Good stuff. Be sure to catch live editions of the Herd, weekdays at noon Eastern, 9am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. FS1 and the iHeartRadio app.
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By the way, Browns, Steelers, they're calling this one of the worst spots for Cleveland. Coming off London no buy. Pittsburgh off a buy.
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It's my second favorite bet of the week. I told you, I already have my blazing five.
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That's crazy.
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The Steeler game jumps off the board like last week. I told you the Colts, I'm like.
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Remember last week the Rams jumped off the board.
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No, the Colts hurt.
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Colts did. Yeah.
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The Steelers is one of two games. That doesn't make sense. The Steelers, it's just unfair.
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They get two weeks break and then the Browns are coming off a buy with a rookie for London with a rookie quarterback. Maybe Shador plays this week. Will he be miming calls when he gets to the line of scrimmage, he's not going to be barking. He's going to be miming.
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Well, if we don't have Lamar and Burrow, we need quarterback stories of interest and that would be interesting.
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Can we not do Shador? How about this? We do a draft of quarterbacks we don't have to talk about. I get first pick. Aaron Rodgers.
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I like. I'd like talking about winning quarterbacks, all of them. I may do a Daniel Jones segment next.
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Now that could get my. Yeah, let's do that.
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J. Mac with the news. No, no, no, no, no.
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Turn on the news.
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This is the herd line news.
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More exciting than an NFL trade. That's the Yankees Blue Jays series big one tonight on FS1. The Yanks have been outscored 23 to 8 in the first two games. They're facing elimination tonight with former Cy Young winner Shane Bieber taking the mound for the Blue Jays. I'll take the Yanks. I know you want Toronto to win this.
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I don't. I don't want anything. I've said the Yankees are an uneven team that's home run dependent and that means Aaron Judge is going to have to come up. Aaron Judge has had a good series, but he's going to have to come up in a huge spot and get a huge hit. He hasn't proven he can do that yet. There's a lot of stress on him. There's a lot of. Because Ohtani, there's not stress. He's got Freddie Freeman and Mookie Betts and great starting pitching and they field well and they. The Ohtani's great, but you feel like there's seven other guys. Max Muncie, te, Oscar Hernandez. You never feel like it's. All the weight of the world is on Shohei's shoulders. Last night it was Will Smith and you know, Blake Snell. And it's different with the Yankees. You need Aaron Judge to hit bombs in the eighth inning with two on to win the game.
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Let me ask you for this show content and national interest. Who do you want to advance in these two series today on FS1? Mariners, Tigers. Blue Jays. Yankees. Who do you want to see advanced to the next round?
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Yankees. Mariners.
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All right, let's move on to the next story. I like that. Penn State. Oh my gosh, Colin, this Penn State lost to UCLA is getting glossed over a lot. Somehow Franklin's dodging a bullet here because the card was weak. There's baseball, playoffs, there's NFL. I mean, listen, James Franklin talked to the media about the state of his program. This sounds bleak.
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Fair question. I believe in Penn State. I believe in our players. I believe in the. The men in the lash building. Men and women in the lash building. And I believe in myself. And obviously, you know, after the last two games we're going to get these types of questions. I get it.
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Fun fact. UCLA did not lead any of their opponents at any point all season. Yeah, they were up 27.
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They also change coaches and sometimes you put play calling in different hands and you have young coaches who maybe were suppressed a little bit by the ex head coach. You never know, But I will tell you this, their play calling was excellent. Jerry Newheisel. I thought, I. I just thought they came out with much more energy. I watched that game. I thought they had much more energy. Nico Emaliava. They put the ball in his hands and they leaned into his athletic ability. He was terrific.
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Colin, are you a dj? Why are you spinning so much? This is. There's no way to spin this for Penn State. This is awful. This is rock bottom. Nico, remember the first three weeks we were like, oh, what a joke that guy is. Why did he transfer? And now he beats Penn State. I mean, Colin, I'm looking at the schedule. Penn State still has to go to Ohio State. They have to go to Iowa. That's not a lock. They'll probably win that. And they host Indiana. Indiana's pretty good. They got an NFL quarterback. If Penn State doesn't make the playoff, do you think Franklin gets fired? They open the. I think they open his number two in the country, right?
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Or number. No, he doesn't get fired. You're having to spend so much money on facilities and nil. You're going to buy him out. That's why these guys, all these Lincoln Riley's in trouble and Brian Kelly's in trouble. The nil is saving these coaches. You can't just buy them out anymore. You're spending 25 million. How many times can you go to donors and ask them for another 35 to 45 million dollars? The nil has been the best thing. All these coaches that grumbled about it. See the big picture. It's saving your.
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But let me ask you about Drew.
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Aller, by the way, Franklin's buyout. My staff found out 50 million.
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That's enough. That's pocket change for the Penn State crowd.
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No, it's not.
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That's. Come on, 50 million.
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There's not a cell phone tower within two hours of that campus in the middle of nowhere.
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Peyton take the Broncos to the playoffs after they bought out Russell Wilson and his deal. You could do this in college football, man. So by the way, Drew Aller, do we want to talk about his NFL prospects or.
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He's not a first round quarterback, is.
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He a second or third or fourth? I mean, his passing high yards this season is 209.
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He's got the size, he's got an arm. I don't know what's happened, but he doesn't play with a lot of command or a lot of energy.
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He's low energy again.
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You watch him on the field with Dante Moore. It's like that's not close. But again, Dante Moore's. Oregon's whole program's about juice and energy.
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There's just shades of Christian Hackenberg.
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Do you remember him? He's better than Christian.
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Yeah, he is.
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Yeah.
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Final story. Colin. So I know the football weekend was crazy in the NFL, but our staff put together. This is pretty crazy. I did not even notice this. Six teams came back from double digit deficits to win this week.
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Six.
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Wow.
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The Broncos were down 14. Commanders were down 10. Jags down 14. Last night, Panthers were down 17. Nothing. Saints were down 11. Titans were down 18. That is kind of insane. Now underdogs went nine, five. Not against the spread. Straight up underdogs were barking this weekend. Is this just the end of the favorites dominating? Is this the. The top is coming back. Give me a macro analysis of how the hell this happens.
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Well, it's an offensive league. We've got a lot of interesting core. I mean even Bryce Young, everybody critical. Bryce Young can play. Spencer Rattler can play to some level. We have good.
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Bryce Young can play when he's down 20.
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Also remember right now it's a very warm fall. The weather's perfect right now. I mean Seattle, you see that game? Seattle, my God, take your shirt off. Perfect weather. So you have a very warm fall. That always benefits the offense. You have a lot of defensive players banged up. Why? Because defensive players get hurt more than offensive players. So you have a lot of thin defenses. Perfect weather, excellent coordinator play. In the NFL right now we have the most smart offensive coordinators in the history of the league and they're dialing up good plays. And the. I mean the Buffalo. When's the last time you saw snow in Buffalo? They're playing New England. I'm like, oh my God, take your shirt off. It's a fun night in Buffalo. So it's good weather, good coordinators and a lot of banged up defenses.
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Rico even made a joke. He was like, it's 82 on the lake. Whatever lake is in Buffalo, Erie. And he made it. It was like 80 degrees in Buffalo.
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This past week was 80 in Chicago.
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Where's their advance? Don't they have like some advantage? This is weird. I did you back underdogs this week. You said you got your blazing five locked. Are you going favorites or dogs?
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I like the Sealers. That's the favorite. I like. There's some dogs barking this week.
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Is that like one of these? Put your kids college tuition fund on the seal.
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Well, there's no such thing. I had the Chiefs last night and I thought I had it one after.
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The tell you about the Jags. I did have a great week. But you know, we can't all be like J back.
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Thank God. J Mack with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by the herd lie news man. There's a lot of stuff happening a rod next hour. It's the Herd. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd, weekdays at noon Eastern, 9am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, FS1 and the iHeartRadio app Imagine never buying gas again. EVs are as easy to charge as your phone and perfect for everyday life. Drive daily with confidence everywhere you go. Most Americans drive 40 miles a day. Most EVs are equipped with 200 to 400 miles of range. They've got fewer parts, fewer repairs and fewer headaches. With hundreds of new and used EV models available today, there's an EV to fit every lifestyle and every budget. I love my electric vehicle. It's easy. No more gas stations. The way forward is electric. Learn more@electric for all.org Today's episode brought to you by a scent that's made a legendary comeback. Degree Original Cool Rush the OG is back and better than ever. Cool Rush isn't just a scent, it's a movement, a fan favorite kind of fragrance guys remember, ask for by name and rave about online. It's bold. It's fresh all day, sweat protection, cool crisp vibe that made it legendary. So whether you're heading to the gym, the office, or just trying to stay fresh all day long, Cool Rush has your back. It's the go to for millions and for good reason. So if you haven't tried it yet or you've been waiting for a sign, this is it. Head to your local Walmart target grab degree Cool Rush the fan favorite scent from the world's number one antiperspirant brand. This is one of the best times of the year to be a sports fan. It seems like every week we are seeing great games and even better matchups between the best teams in football. Speaking of great matchups, Green River Whiskeys Green River Gold Rush Cocktail this is out of this world. Okay, shake up some Green River Kentucky Straight bourbon, lemon juice and honey. I had one of these last night. Strain it over ice. It is out of this world. Doesn't get simpler, doesn't get better. Green river offers a great lineup featuring their Kentucky Straight, weeded, foolproof and Rye. Fall is also the perfect time to get yourself out to Kentucky and check out Green river in person. Incredible distillery in Owensboro Kentucky. They have tastings, VIP experiences and more. Check out Green River's tasting room in Louisville, located right on historic Whiskey Row. So head over to greenriverwhiskey.com learn more today. Try it for yourself. A product of Green River Distilling Co. Owensboro, KY. Alcohol by volume varies by product. Greenriverwhiskey.com Please drink responsibly. Get almost anything you need delivered with UberEats. What do you mean by almost? Well, you can't get a well groomed lawn delivered, but you can get chicken parm delivered. A day at the lake? That's a no. A Philly cheesesteak? Very much a yes. An afternoon stroll? Sorry, no. A burrito bowl? Happily, yes. All right. Delivery is on its way. I use it regularly. How about the clear skies? Can't deliver that. But French fries? Yeah. A little escape? No. Delicious bowl of grapes? Yeah. How about a freshly cut lawn? Can't help you there. But barbecued prawns? Order it now. Get almost almost anything delivered with Uber Eats. Order now. Alcohol in select markets. Product availability may vary by region.
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Seattle for details A huge day of.
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Yeah, last weekend it didn't have a lot of big billing, but a couple of games ended up being crazy good.
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How about my Texas Tech Red Raiders? Remember when I said they were going to the playoff this August? I think I was filling in for you. A lot of people laughed at me. Colin, they are looking good.
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Well, it's a weak conference so here's the playoff picture as of today and I think most of it will stand pattern. Kansas City I think will make the playoffs in the afc. Right now for our radio audience it's I'll read them in order of seed. Colts, Bills, Steelers. Don't laugh at the Steelers. The rest of the division's all beat up. Chargers, Jags, Denver and New England. I think it holds. I, I don't think the AFC south is going to have two teams and I trust Indianapolis over the Jags. Although the Jags are a fun watch. I think Kansas City makes it in eventually and I do think the Chargers get it right when Joe Alt comes back in the nfc. In the order right now it's Philly, San Francisco, Tampa, Detroit, Green Bay, Seattle, Minnesota. I don't think Minnesota is going to make it. Take them out, put the Rams in. I think Washington. I don't know what to do with Washington. You were at that game Sunday and Jaden Daniels looked very good. I don't love their roster. I would say Minnesota and Jacksonville I think are gonzo, but it doesn't take long. We're only five games into the season and I think the truth comes out. You know the best coaches, you know the best quarterbacks. I mean, the Chargers obviously are falling apart physically. San Francisco has been winning despite falling apart physically. Shanahan deserves coach of the year credit here. He's having a great year coaching. They're asking Mac Jones to throw 40 times a game with a battle line and none of his targets.
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Yeah. By the way, Niners are getting points at Tampa. Who's a quarterback, Mac Jones or Purdy? Does it matter to you?
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I would prefer the less turnover prone quarterback, Mac Jones.
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The other thing, Washington, as you mentioned, they are at Chicago this week.
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Okay.
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McLaurin. They return.
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Yeah. I thought this line was, this was my, this. Pittsburgh's my second favorite bet. I'm not going to say my first favorite till the blazing five. This was my third favorite bet. I like Washington.
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I think that's it.
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Tell people the line.
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I'm seeing three and a half, but I have a feeling that's going to.
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Be going up at Washington.
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No, it's. I think it's at Chicago.
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Is it?
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Yeah.
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Interesting. I like Washington and that's.
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Oh no, no.
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Is that Washington Night Football? Oh, geez.
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That's slammed up at Washington. Monday Night Football. The, the very feeling good about themselves. And also you say to yourself, well, the Bears are off a buy.
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Yeah.
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When teams that are playing well come off a buy, it can really be helpful to get rest. But if you're not quite right off a buy, does it necessarily matter?
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By the way, how did Ben Johnson and Jared Goff do in the NFC championship game against Dan Quinn's defense? Not good. Why should you body bagged him? Not the. In the NFC playoffs last year, remember it was like 45, 31. Goff struggled. I have a feeling Caleb could be in some trouble in this one against Washington. Defense is like no name dudes.
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Bobby Wagner, Justin Herbert, great pressure all.
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Up in his grill. I'm with you. I like Washington there and also Jets, Broncos in London. That's definitely appointment viewing.
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I, I don't like betting those London games. You just get a different team. Like obviously Denver's like a five and a half or six point favorite. They could be to my 30.
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Yeah. But they may let down after the Philly win. Did you see Sean Payton was driving the bus around Philadelphia, like flexing the Broncos afterward?
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I'm like, I. I looked at that line and I said, I am. Now. Do I think it's a coaching mismatch? Absolutely. Do I think the Jets O line will struggle to protect against Denver? Absolutely. But beating Philadelphia, Remember a couple years ago that everybody that played San Francisco the next week lost?
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Yes.
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That's kind of a stacked San Francisco team. You beat Philadelphia and you have a pretty young team in Denver. Would it shock you if they went on the road to London and got a had a little fun?
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A against a Jets team? That is terrible to me is a trap game.
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In fact, the number is not as high. What's the number on that?
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I think you said you're right. Five and a half.
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So ask yourself this if you're a if you bet Denver beats Philly and Philly dominates the second half. Jets are atrocious. And the lines. Five and a half.
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See, it's weird. Like all of a sudden Bo Nicks has to cover a number as opposed to being an underdog, A plucky underdog. Now you got to go and win by margin. I don't know.
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So that line is it. That is a trap bet.
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Listen, there's some good games I'm seeing this Seattle game that Seattle losing to Tampa messed me up. Their defense got torched and Jacksonville has some playmakers. Colin, that's a Fox game now, but.
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Remember Jacksonville, That's a lot.
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I think that's the longest trip in the country. Seattle to Jacksonville.
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Okay. Short week. Come off their biggest win, maybe ever. Watch Jacksonville turnover prone off their biggest win a day less to prepare. Seattle in a bad mood. Could have won. Thinks they should have won. I like Seattle and the Mariners. Imagine never buying gas again. EVs are as easy to charge as your phone and perfect for everyday life. Drive daily with confidence everywhere you go. Most Americans drive 40 miles a day. Most EVs are equipped with 200 to 400 miles of range. They've got fewer parts, fewer repairs, and fewer headaches. With hundreds of new and used EV models available today, there's an EV to fit every lifestyle and every budget. I love my electric vehicle. It's easy. No more gas stations. The way forward is electric. Learn more atelectric for all.org Today's episode brought to you by a scent that's made a legendary comeback degree Original cool rush. The OG is back and better than ever. Cool Rush isn't just a scent. It's a movement kind of fragrance guys remember, ask for by name and rave about online. It's bold. It's fresh all day. Sweat protection, cool, crisp vibe that made it legendary. So whether you're heading to the gym, the office, or just trying to stay fresh all day long, Cool Rush has your back. So if you haven't tried it yet, head to your local Walmart. Grab degree Cool Rush the fan favorite scent from the world's number one antiperspirant brand. Get almost anything you need delivered with Uber Eats. What do you mean by almost? Well, you can't get a well groomed lawn delivered, but you can get chicken parm delivered. A little escape? No? Delicious bowl of grapes? Yeah. An afternoon stroll? Sorry, no. A burrito bowl? Happily, yes. How about the clear skies? Can't deliver that, but French fries? Yeah. Get almost almost anything delivered with Uber Eats. Order now. Alcohol in select markets. Product availability may vary by region. See app for details. The Toyota Certified Used Vehicle Sales Event is here. It is packed with great surprises. Choose from a wide selection of low mileage vehicles, all backed by Toyota, with warranties that begin on the date of purchase. Because when it comes to quality, the best new cars make the best used cars. So don't miss your chance. Find your certified Toyota today, but hurry. These Great offers end November 3rd. Toyota Certified used Vehicle Sales Event where every surprise is a great one. Inventory may vary by dealer. Participating dealers only. Comprehensive and powertrain are limited warranties. See tcuv warranty supplementtoyotacertified.com or your Toyota dealer for details.
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