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Thanks for listening to the Heard podcast. Be sure to catch us live every weekday on Fox Sports Radio and noon to 3 Eastern, 9am to noon Pacific. Find your local station for the herd@foxsportsradio.com or stream us live every day on the iHeartRadio app by searching Fox Sports Radio or FSR. Now let's get this party started. You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. Here we go, hour two, we got Dave Roberts on today. Dan Hurley just stopped by Carlos Boozer. Joel Platts around the corner. Yankees open the season with a seven nothing win over Logan Webb. Aaron Judge over five, struck out four times. He's the only Yankee not to reach base. And they rolled a lot of singles. Bottom of the order for the Yankees hit great. So one of the advantage, one of the advantages I think that pro leagues, if they use it is that for instance, like in baseball, you have a minor league system use it and so you can the pitch clock. They experimented for years with a pitch clock in the minor leagues. The ABS system, balls and strike system which the pitcher, the catcher or the batter can initiate. Tap it on the head. That not the manager. It can be those three. And so San Francisco didn't use any of theirs last night. The first one was a Yankee challenge. That was first pitch like the fourth inning. And it's very quick. It's like the Hawkeye in tennis. It's very quick. They put it on the board, the fans can watch. And I got to give Rob Manfred credit. This game was slow pondering four years ago. It's cool, it's fun, it's watchable, it's quick. And I thought this was really good. It's really fast and the fans can watch the replay up on the board. And I think it's another you got every team gets two challenges. If you go to extra innings, you get other challenges. And if you have a challenge and you get it right, you got to keep your challenge. I like it. San Francisco did not use theirs. But it's I, I wish the NBA would do some tweaking. I mean, nobody wants to watch 83 point shots. Nobody wants to watch the last two and a half minutes of an NBA game take 30 minutes like tweak and Rob Manford got some heat. But every one of these tweaks has worked. And that AB says ABS system, balls and strike system. I thought it was very effective, very quick. The Giants did not use any of theirs and their manager talked about that. I would have never predicted that we would have played the entire game and had not used two. And then on the other one, I only used the restroom one time tonight and it happened to be the time I was supposed to be doing a Netflix interview. I was a little more concerned with the score being 5 to nothing at the time than being at that spot, with all due respect. And so I was trying to make sure my belt was buckled and I came up with some. I didn't sound, I sounded dumber than usual during that thing. So as I returned, that's when it had happened. Yeah, I mean you got to the modern attention span has limitations. Baseball figured it out. NBA has gotten very repetitious. I like the playoffs, but I think all these moves are making. They're just fast, they're quick. You can use the minor league system. I've always said this, the NBA should use college basketball and be an ally and anything you can experiment with, see if you can have a deal with college basketball. Baseball brilliantly uses their minor league system to experiment. They, they, they experimented in the minor leagues and it came off without a hitch last night. It was great. Joel Cloud is now joining us. It is three weeks away from the NFL draft. He's got his mock. We'll get to that in a second. By the way, you're calling UFL games this weekend, which Rick Neuheisel is now coaching. Ted Ginn Jr. Is now coaching. I see they implemented a new rule which I don't know what to make of it. The four points for a 60 yard field goal. But I think one of the things about the UFL that I mentioned yesterday, 46 guys that are on rosters played in the NFL. Did you notice last year that especially to me at quarterback, receiver, back, corner o lines. I still think the best guys are going, going, playing on Sundays. What did you make of the quality of play last year?
Joel Klatt
I think that it's increased every single year I've done this. This is going to be my fifth year call in spring football. Remember it came back as USFL and there was a merger with the xfl. Now we've got the ufl. Well over those five years. Colin. Well, leading into this fifth year, every year the, the ball gets better. It just does. And the coaching gets better. The entire strategy of the game because it's a little different with the rule changes, gets better. And all the coaches that I've talked to, I just talked with Rick Neuheisel and Kevin Sumlin and others throughout league. They've said the same thing, that they've got real players that have been in NFL camp since and that this is the best that the league has ever looked heading into a season from a play standpoint. But I would also just echo one of the things that you were just talking about with the ABS system, which you're exactly right. This is why minor league baseball is so advantageous to the big leagues is because they can try things out. The pitch clock has been outstanding. This comes from a former minor league baseball player. Like I love baseball. It had become so painfully slow. Yeah. You know, five hour playoff games. So. So you do all of that and test all of that in minor league baseball. Well, that's kind of what the UFL has become for the NFL.
Jason McIntyre
Yes.
Joel Klatt
And they've gotten to test some things. This is where we originally saw the new kickoff rule which then was adopted by the NFL. You bring up the four point field goal. Listen, giving someone four points for kicking a 60 plus yard field goal is just cool. And, and so we're going to see, you know, if that can happen. I just think that's cool. What I think is a bigger change that we'll see in the UFL this year which, which all the coaches have talked about being highly impactful is this. No punts once you cross the 50. Let's think about that. Now that becomes a totally different sequence of events. You can no longer have a defensive player. You know, you get to stop by a foot on, on third and seven and the balls on the plus 40 yard line. They're all holding up their fists like Ford, we did it. Fourth down, we did it. It's like no, you didn't know you didn't. Now you're going to have to stop before down. That's going to be a highly impactful play and I'm very interested to see how that affects the entirety of the game and the feel of the game moving forward. I think that one's going to be really interesting.
Jason McIntyre
Okay, let's talk, let's talk draft here. I do think the Jets. I think he's going to get drafted. Ty Simpson in the Jackson Dart space. And I think only one team showed up yesterday to the. And I talked to a couple of execs. Only one team showed up to the pro day because the the GMs in that 15 to 21 space, they don't want to show their hand. They're like not interested. Because what's going to happen is like a Pittsburgh is going to have to move up to 15 and they don't want anybody think, they want everybody to think they love Will Howard. Aaron's coming back. So they, you know, they may have to jump ahead of the Jets. I do think he's a franchise quarterback. Do you feel when you watch the film on Ty Simpson, does he feel like a first round quarterback
Joel Klatt
this year? He does. Remember, every, every, you can't just say first rounder because your ability to be in the first round is completely dependent on who's being drafted around you. For instance, Colin, the last two weeks on my show I gave you a mock draft which was a traditional mock draft. Then the next week I did an all college football draft as if anybody that played college football was eligible for this year's draft. What would it look like? You know, who are the quarterbacks taken? Mendoza is still taken. Jeremiah Smith has taken. Maybe Julian saying that's where you would maybe not be a first rounder if you were Ty Simpson. Just based on some of the play, in particular in the games that he struggled in last year. Having said that, here's what I'll say about Ty Simpson. He's not the biggest guy, but Colin, this guy makes really big throws. I am so impressed with him. Every time I turn on the tape with what he does, attacking the defense outside the numbers and down the field and that's really what the NFL is looking for. He is a tough, sturdy quarterback that can make all the throws and those guys just don't grow on trees. I think he makes good decisions. I'm very impressed with him. I think he's a good leader. My biggest knock would be his lack of experience because I'm a big believer and I've said this countless times on your show. I think in order to have real success in the NFL as a quarterback, you've got to have a lot of experience in college. Did you know that the two quarterbacks that started the fewest number of games in this century to win a Super bowl, the fewest college starts are Sam Darnold and Tom Brady, both in the mid-20s. I mean that that should tell you something about what you need moving forward. And he just doesn't have that being a one year starter.
Jason McIntyre
Okay, so I remember years ago, this, I'll go back. This is 15 years ago I had this discussion with somebody. I, I Liked. I liked high school recruiting. Now with a transfer portal, I pay a little less attention to it. It's not as valuable. They all transfer out. But one of the things I noticed was that when you went and got one of these five star high school kids who was kind of positionless, he was just kind of a big strong high school kid. He could play a receiver rush in. The hit rate was much lower than it should be. For other five star guys who are absolutely receivers or tight ends or a quarterback, is that just taking the talented kid who mauls high schoolers. It's different. And I look at Arvl Reese. This is pro football and if he goes to the Jets, I don't trust the jets coaching. There was a guy years ago that went to Arizona, Isaiah Simmons out of Clemson went to Arizona. I mean, just a freak. What was his position like? I don't think you can learn to play something in the NFL now. Arvell Reese is so. I think if he went to Brian Flores, you know, the DC for the Vikings, I'm like, yeah, he would work. If he went to Mike McDonald in Seattle, I'm like, yeah, or Robert Sala, there are guys I think he would absolutely. But I worry about Arvl Reese going to the jets where he may be on his second staff his second year. He doesn't yet have a position. Are my concerns legitimate or is he just so good it'll work?
Joel Klatt
Yeah. Listen, I, I think that there's some level of truth in what you're saying. However, I do think that it's different. It's different for a position player as, as opposed to a quarterback. I talked about the need for experience for a quarterback. I think that that can almost be different for a position player. You don't need the experience necessarily and in fact it could show you some level of upside that is not yet reached if a guy hasn't played a lot of football. Our Valley restarted for one year at Ohio State. Yeah, and, and Matt Patricia was just, just shaving, you know, the, the tip of the iceberg if you will, with what he could do. You know, he starts as an off the ball linebacker with Stoney Sonny Styles. Then it's like, man, he can, he can blitz really well and he can, he could play off the edge really well. I personally believe, and I know this is high praise, I think he is a Micah Parsons in waiting.
Jason McIntyre
That's what somebody said.
Joel Klatt
Because of what I'm talking, you know, because of what he can do in so many different areas. He can cover in space he can rush the quarterback, he can play traditional inside linebacker, he can rush in the interior on the blitz, he can bend. He can do all of these things. Does that take a smart, well rounded defensive coordinator? Yeah, to your point, I think it does. And fit always matters, regardless of who you are. Having said that, you got a guy that hasn't even played edge rusher for one full season in his life and he's that good. It's like, oh my gosh, like, imagine what he could be if he gets some level of refinement even at just that one position as, as an edge rusher or an outside linebacker in a stand up position. So I think he could be really dynamic again. I think he's Micah Parsons waiting, waiting to happen.
Jason McIntyre
So another Ohio State players. Fascinating. I keep saying I have this vibe that Caleb Downs is going to go to the Cowboys and people say, well, I'd be, I'd be careful.
Joel Klatt
That's where I put him.
Jason McIntyre
Okay, yeah, let's see. Oh yeah, look at that. Boom. You got him going at 12. So I feel like at the start of the year we all agreed this guy's, this guy is like Kyle Hamilton, maybe even better. Like he, he's a. And then by the end of the year and maybe it's because of the ascension of Sonny Styles and other players that like, we've just forgotten about Caleb Downs. Like, he's, he's like the fifth Buckeye. And I'm like, no, I think the start of the year he was number two behind the Jeremiah Smith. We were like, Jeremiah and Caleb are the best players. I think in a, I think very few players in this draft will be underdrafted. I think almost like Bain's going to be a little overdrafted. It's an average draft. If Caleb downs drops to 12, it's like, oh, that's a mistake. By the, to me, I feel like he is a start. Day 1 Pro Bowler Year 2Am I wrong?
Joel Klatt
Percent 100%. No, you're not wrong at all. In fact, like, we are in total lockstep on this. If you look at last year in college football and you said, who's the smartest defender in the country? Caleb Downs. Who's the most impactful defender in the country? Caleb Downs. And we're, we've forgotten about that because we all of a sudden don't value the safety position. You know, from an NFL perspective, it's like, well, to take a guy high, he's got to be a corner or an edge rusher or these, these fancy, you Know, sexy positions that, that we talk about on the edges. But the bottom line is, is that this defense for two years was largely the best defense in college football and it was wholly built for and around Caleb Downs.
Daniel Cormier
Yes.
Joel Klatt
The entire structure of the defense on the field. That's. And that is no joke with all of those guys. With Sonny Styles on the field, first rounder with Arvl Reese on the field, first rounder with Kaden McDonald, a defensive tackle on the field, potential first rounder maybe right at the back end of the first round early second, the entire structure of the defense was four Caleb Downs to get him near the football more. Not Arvell Reese, not Sonny Styles.
Jason McIntyre
Right?
Joel Klatt
No, no, no. Caleb downs. He, and, and, and I think we forget that. And then he's not Kyle Hamilton's size. So then, so then he gets diminished. I've heard. Man, I gotta tell you, there's my least favorite part of this process. I'm gonna get myself in trouble. That's fine. Whatever is hearing NFL decision makers just get on their high horse and they serve it well in our league.
Colin Cowherd
You.
Joel Klatt
He's just not big enough. And I'm like, hey man, y' all stupid. Because this guy is a football playing Jesse. And he will. I mean think about to Ryan Matthew, you know, and, and what he was able to like undersized guys can succeed. Oh yeah, he is going to succeed. He's going to be an all pro. He's going to be the face of a franchise. If Dallas, if he's there for Dallas at 12 with the way they're. They're passing a second pick in the first round where they can get another corner probably is pretty good by the way, like sign me up. So I just, I'm, I'm echoing, I'm, I'm doubling down on that. That if he goes 12, that would be a huge coup for the Cowboys.
Jason McIntyre
Yeah, the. Let me look at your mock draft again. You know the guy, the, the Miami guys are all good, but it's like, yeah, the tackle can play guard. Bane's got short arms. Whatever.
Joel Klatt
I think Bain's going to get, I think he's going to get drafted by the Bengals. So you're seeing up right now if you're watching. He's. I've got him to the Bengals, obviously
Jason McIntyre
they've got a needed edge. They lost Hendrickson, so they need a pass rusher.
Joel Klatt
Yeah, they've got a needed edge. And, and I just keep coming back to like in the biggest moments of the season. What did you do when you were playing the best teams and players that you faced and like Bain and Francis, Maui Noah and some of these Miami guys dominated the playoff at the line
Jason McIntyre
of scrimmage against the best.
Joel Klatt
I think that there's something to that.
Jason McIntyre
Yeah, you have. No, I mean, I. Miami. First of all, the Miami Indiana game is one of the best college football games I've seen in 20 years. I thought it was just great. I thought it was just unbelievable. But, I mean, Miami was built around physicality. And when you can play Indiana, a great team, and I can notice your physicality where you're pushing Indiana guys around, it's like, okay, then you're.
Joel Klatt
Yeah, yeah.
Jason McIntyre
Bane. Something else.
Joel Klatt
All right, what is. By the way, why. Why do people think, like, Mendoza is just a product of a light draft? Like Fernando Mendoza? Colin, this is what drives me nuts. I. I just can't. I can't stand it. These guys get on and want to nitpick, and it's like, okay, you got your five minutes of fame because you criticize the number one pick in the draft. Watch what he does in critical moments, third down on the road, late in games. That's all that we should be measuring.
Jason McIntyre
I don't.
Joel Klatt
Listen, to be candid with you. I do not care what you do on second and eight from the minus 30.
Jason McIntyre
Like, I don't care.
Joel Klatt
I really don't. I. I care what happens on third down late in games. What are you when. When your best is needed. And Fernando Mendoza wasn't just good. He was great in those moments. Every time. On the road at Iowa, on the road at Oregon, on the road at Penn State in the Big Ten championship game, throughout the playoffs against Miami, in that physical game, running. I mean, Mendoza is a really great player. He's. He's the number one pick. And I'm. I'm really. I get really frustrated when I hear all this nitpick. It's like, oh, good for you. You can criticize what's clearly the number one pick in the draft. Good for you.
Jason McIntyre
Well, he's a thicker, stronger Matt Ryan with Daniel Jones deceptive athleticism and the aggressive and toughness of Andrew Lucky, whatever that is.
Joel Klatt
And the football nerd dome of Kirk Cousins.
Jason McIntyre
Yeah, kind of nerdy. I like it. Well, personality is a trait. And he's got a perfect personality. Humble, grateful, and owns his personality. He has no problem with it.
Joel Klatt
Like, loves his teammates. Loves his teammates.
Jason McIntyre
Yeah, I love my team. I got a little Mendoza. I love. I'm easy to play with. Love my teammates. Okay, give me one. I want Give me one UFL player. Give me one UFL player to watch.
Joel Klatt
Oh, gosh, let's see. I'm a big believer in Tyler Vaughn's wide receiver on the outside from, from Dallas. I'll have him on Saturday. I think that's, that's a really good one. And then, you know, for, for my, this Austin Reed, the quarterback that we're going to see this weekend, I, I'm excited to see him. And, and one of the things that we're going to see is that the, the mobile quarterback in the UFL is always a little bit more valuable. And so those are some players that I'm looking at that I think could have a big impact on this week's game. And, and we'll see how it, how it goes.
Jason McIntyre
Good seeing you, Claster.
Joel Klatt
You as you as well, man. Always love, love seeing you have a good one.
Jason McIntyre
All right. Dan Hurley, Joel Klatt, Carlos Boozer, Dave Roberts, later. Good show. Matt Corral. Quarterbacks in this league. Got a nice arm. Little small, good arm.
Daniel Cormier
Yeah.
Jason McIntyre
The, it is funny about personality to me as a trait when you're getting drafted, a trait is size, arm, athleticism. Toughness is a traitor. And there's, you know, everybody's looking for comps. I think Tom Telesco, the former Vegas gm, was the first one to throw out Matt Ryan. And I think, I think Matt Ryan chugged a bunch of water right before the weigh in at the combine because he came in a little heavier than he is because I saw him at ESPN's campus and he's, he was thin. That was my, one of my first things. He's tall and thin. And then he weighed a little bit more, you know, I think. And he got bigger, stronger, a little thicker. In the NFL, I think Fernando Mendoza could easily put on weight. And he's, he's just a bigger, more natural 235 with a. I think he's got a pretty good arm and he's super aggressive downfield, which means you're going to throw some picks, you're going to have some bad throws in the NFL. A lot of the NFL for quarterbacks is a. Can you see the field? He can. And are you willing to let it rip? You know, in college, the college coach is, you know, the wizard of Oz behind the curtain, all the power. Sometimes, you know, you don't want to, you don't want to tick off the coat in the NFL. Like, listen, man, we got 70 plays. You're going to have to throw guys open. You got to let it rip. One of my only knocks ever on Aaron Rodgers is in big spots sometimes. If he's already got a pick, he plays a little safe, I think. I think Mendoza is more Andrew Luck. You may yell occasionally that he's throwing into coverage, but he likes to throw it downfield. His ball placement's great, but he's an aggressive thrower. That matters. I. That's why I've said I don't want my quarterback to have a ton of picks. But if you're throwing 38 times and have won it, you know, and it, it comes via aggressiveness, I can live with that. You get 13 possessions, you can make it up. There's more snaps today than 15 years ago in the sport. Used to get 55 snaps. Now you can get 68 snaps. So if I throw a pick, I got two more drives. There's, there's, you know, the game now. There's more plays in football games now than 20 years ago. So I'm. When you, when you had 53 plays offensively, I cannot have two picks. Sam Darnold threw four against the Rams and had the ball late with a chance to win.
Colin Cowherd
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Jason McIntyre
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Jason McIntyre
All right, Sweet 16 starts tonight. First game on the docket tonight, Purdue takes on Texas. Purdue is a handful veteran team does it a little differently. More of a Villanova style is going to recruit the high school guys. Not going to, not going to have that many transfers. Maybe one a year that they spend some money on. So I like Purdue tonight. Matt Painters built a really, really good program. Arizona plays could be the best team that got a lot of NBA guys. So I know J. Mac, that's J. Mac's favorite team. We will have Carlos Boozer. Duke's playing. I think it's tomorrow night. Does a Duke play tomorrow night or night? Throw that. Throw the schedule up one more time. Duke plays tomorrow against Saint John. Boy, that'll be classic. Saint John's played Yukon. Was it three times? I think it beat Yukon twice. Saint John's I think. I think Yukon beat Saint John's Saint John's beat Yukon and Saint John's may have beaten them twice.
Colin Cowherd
They beat him at the Garden in the Big east tournament. They were. I mean it was like a home court advantage. The St. John's team is suspect. But yes, I picked Arizona in the brackets. Let's just say I'm heavily invested in Duke to get to the final four. Heavily.
Jason McIntyre
St. John struggles to shoot everybody.
Colin Cowherd
The kid who hit six threes against Kansas, career high. He's been playing college basketball for four years. He never hit six threes in his life. Probably not even in a shoot around. He can't hit six threes and he buried him against Kansas. They won't do that against Duke. But this Caleb Foster stuff, did you see that there? It sounds. His parents are saying he's 50 50, going to play three weeks after surgery. That's insane.
Jason McIntyre
The Big Ten has six teams in the Sweet 16. Yeah.
Colin Cowherd
Hey, that Iowa game, Colin, tonight I am so juiced up. If you were here, I would drag you to our favorite watering hole. And I'm Going to be right.
Jason McIntyre
I think I like Iowa to win.
Colin Cowherd
I'm rooting Iowa so heavily in this one. It's going to be a great game. Those two teams hate each other. And the Iowa coach, by the way, one of the best coaches in the country, Ben McCollum.
Jason McIntyre
So Darius Acuff for Arkansas taking on those. Those Arizona NBA guys. That's going to be that.
Colin Cowherd
Illinois, Houston is. Is a great game, too.
Jason McIntyre
Arkansas, Arizona will be the most fun to watch. That's my prediction, probably.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah. Well, Acuff is Allen Iverson, Derrick Rose type player.
Jason McIntyre
Yeah. I'm surprised that Alabama's here.
Colin Cowherd
They're not going to be here for long.
Jason McIntyre
Michigan's gonna thump them tomorrow. You think? Yeah. Yeah.
Colin Cowherd
Lay the lumber, big guy.
Joel Klatt
Yeah.
Jason McIntyre
J. Mack with the news. No, no, no. Turn on the news.
Colin Cowherd
This is the Herd line news.
Daniel Cormier
All right.
Colin Cowherd
You know, I've been championing Victor Wembanyama for the MVP for weeks. I believe it. And guess who's with me? Your guy, Draymond Green. Draymond Green loves what Wembanyama's doing. Wemby's out here basically saying he wants to win mvp. He wants to win defensive player of the year. He wants most improved. He wants all the awards. Here's Draymond loving what Wemby's doing.
Jason McIntyre
Until Wemby said defense is 50% of the game, it was like, oh, man. No one realized that. I hated it because he had to do that for that to then be set. All of a sudden you turn on TV and everybody's like, actually, maybe Wendy is the mvp. But we got this guy defending entire teams, and no one took it into account until he said, well, number one, defense is 50% of the game. Well, Wemby is so much of what Wemby does, he doesn't get credit for, like, you have to double him. So therefore, there's always open corner threes for the Spurs. And defensively, he has 39 more blocks than the rest of the league would have 75 more blocks if people attacked him. But he changes how teams play offensively. So he is just. He is one of those full force multipliers. He doesn't really get credit for how he elevates everybody around him. Yeah, I mean, you can. You could get a. San Antonio could be fine going. Getting somebody. They're not going to get a cuff. He'll be gone. But they could go get a player like that who's a huge defensive liability because Wemby's in the paint. Yeah. Whereas when you have a Luca, you know what I mean? Like, you do need occasionally. Some of the great offensive players in basketball history are defensive liabilities. You know, Magic wasn't great, but he's got Kareem behind him. Yeah. So Wemby allows you to draft differently. It allows you to acquire differently, play differently. Just even we don't talk about his offense, what he does, because he's less consistent offensively. But how many open jumpers do you get? Because Wemby's on the floor and you're a teammate. So he's. He just changes. He's one of those rare. Genetically. There's just. I mean, he's obviously put incredible work into it, but he just adds elements to a team that you can't really account for statistically.
Colin Cowherd
I can't recall a player, Colin, who's ever had this much hype and excitement before he's ever played in the playoffs. Okay, LeBron. People are like, oh, this guy's. He's really, really good. Kobe, you know, young guy. I can't recall anyone. Like, I. I genuinely think they're going to win the title this year.
Jason McIntyre
He had seven blocks in 27 minutes last night. And that again, that doesn't count the other six shots he impacted.
Colin Cowherd
So let me put it back to you. So besides Draymond basically saying, I feel heard, I feel seen. Finally, people are talking defense when we talk mvp, Wemby versus Shea. I don't care that. Ok, sees two games better, to me, that's not mvp. Shouldn't the spurs winning the season series this season, Wemby's 4 and 1 head to head against SGA. Shouldn't that mean something?
Jason McIntyre
Yes.
Colin Cowherd
In the MVP race.
Jason McIntyre
Yes. Yes, it should. That's why I would vote Wemby mvp. Here we go.
Colin Cowherd
We got two Wemby votes here on the show.
Jason McIntyre
I also think you can't be the worst defensive player in the league. And Luke is on a short list of that. I don't think you can win MVP and be atrocious defensively.
Colin Cowherd
Well, I'm not gonna even Dane that with a comment. All right, let's go to the NFL. Colin Patrick Mahomes got everybody on the Internet worked up yesterday. This video emerged three months after surgery. Look at Patty Mahomes just dropping back casually in his camo shorts and just dropping bombs.
Jason McIntyre
Whoa.
Colin Cowherd
People feel excited. Mahomes wrote day by day. Felt great being able to throw the ball around today. And people are saying, oh, he's definitely playing week one. However, Ian Rapaport came out to pump the brakes saying, There's a lot of uncertainty on his return. This is just three months into a 9 to 12 month recovery. Now, I don't know if Rapaport's getting that from the agent or the team, maybe both. But I will say I was a little shocked to see Mahomes moving that fluidly three months after surgery. Now, obviously he's not being chased by
Jason McIntyre
the best doctors in the world. He's got, you know, the Hunt family is paying for the best doctors in the world. Secondly is young pro athletes are different than us. Like, I'm sorry. They're different. They heal faster than we do every time. Jayson Tatum's not going to play this year. He'll play this year and he's really good again. Like, all these guys heal much faster.
Colin Cowherd
You know, it's a acl, lcl, though. This is not just like a small thing. He had the surgery in December and it's like, come on, real, you think he'll play week one? I mean, they just signed Justin Fields like three weeks ago. I think.
Jason McIntyre
No, I think. My guess is if you ask me when he. I think he's going to play it by week three. I, I think, I think they're going to draft an offensive tackle and they want to make sure he can block before they play him.
Colin Cowherd
You don't want to rush this guy back, then he gets hurt again. That, that would be like the worst case scenario.
Jason McIntyre
The downside is if you go, oh, and one, do you have to play him week two because the division's so good?
Colin Cowherd
Oh, yeah, that's a good call. Maybe they'll. You know what? They love the Chiefs on those early games. The schedule makers.
Jason McIntyre
They love Kansas. See, now the NFL. The Seahawks are opening the season on Wednesday overseas, aren't they?
Colin Cowherd
Or.
Jason McIntyre
No, they're the Rams. Niners are playing in Australia on Thursday. Seattle opens the season Wednesday. They don't know their opponent yet, but my guess is you would not put Kansas City in because you don't know if Mahomes is going to play.
Colin Cowherd
Yes, yes, that's a good call.
Jason McIntyre
I would go. You'd have to look at who Seattle's playing.
Colin Cowherd
J. Chiefs, Raiders. Is an openers fine. Maybe Mendoza starts or. I mean, Kirk Cousins versus Justin Fields. I don't know, but I think you're onto something there. Maybe the schedule makers.
Jason McIntyre
Well, the NFL wants. I mean, they're putting the Niners up against the Rams in Australia because you're getting McVeigh and Shanahan. Purdy's not hurt yet. That'll be week five.
Colin Cowherd
So this guy with his shots of the final story. Look at that. With the smirk, too. Oh, man, what a jerk. All right, NFL draft. Let's go to Ruben Bane. He's the guy with the T Rex arms. Colin. If he were drafted in the first round, there's a lot of reports that he would be the first edge rusher with the shortest arms taken in the first round in like the last 25 years or something like that. Bane, though, who is a really dominant player in college, I mean, he's coming off the edge. He's just a disruptor, a wrecker. He pushed back on the negativity and listen to who he compared himself to.
Jason McIntyre
Like Mike Tyson. He wasn't the most tallest. He wasn't the tallest guy or wasn't the longest limb guy, but when you felt him, you felt my versatility. I feel like most people didn't know I could just drop in coverage and move around like that, 30 yards down the field. You know, track balls, do anything. Anything I'm ask. I feel like I'm a versatile player and that's what I showed today. Just knowing that I'm at a new weight, new body type, new style, and
Joel Klatt
I'm just the same player.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah, yeah.
Jason McIntyre
I mean, I think. I think he's a really good player. I think David Bailey is a really good player. I think they'll both be nice NFL players. I don't think they're in the Aiden Hutchison class out of Michigan. I think he's a really, really good player. Aggressive, dogged, intense, power player. I don't think. You know, listen, what's always interesting about the draft is I love watching draft coverage because Everybody's unbelievable and 30% of the first round won't be great. I keep going back to Arvell Reese. I know he's a great athlete. We've seen what the jets do to quarterbacks.
Colin Cowherd
Oh, come on. Reese is going to be fine. Regarding Bain. So I think what people need to do is go look at how he performed against the potential left tackles were going to be in the early rounds.
Joel Klatt
Yeah.
Colin Cowherd
And you know, there is a little tape showing him being kept at bay by certain guys. Couldn't get to the quarterback. Well, in the NFL, you're going against the best 32 left tackles in the league or perhaps right tackles. So I think he drops a little bit. I have him drop into the Ravens at 14. This is a guy who we were talking about second overall. Yeah, I just, you know, you go second overall, Colin, that's risky.
Jason McIntyre
By the way the Seahawks open the season, they don't know their opponent. It's in Seattle. The Niners. Rams is the one in Australia. I don't love that, by the way. Taking one of the best rivalry games in the NFL and sending it overseas. I don't love that.
Colin Cowherd
Well, I think they did it because of West Coast. It's a little less travel for them,
Jason McIntyre
but it's still 15, 15 hour flight.
Colin Cowherd
I know, but if you were east coast, what is it, 19 hours? A 20, 21 hour flight? I don't know. I mean, I, I don't love the Australia game at all, but I do love Australia as a country.
Joel Klatt
Yeah.
Jason McIntyre
Yeah, I think we all do. J Mac with the News well, that's the news.
Colin Cowherd
And thanks for stopping by the Herd lie news.
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Rick Newel, head coach of The Dallas Renegades joins us tomorrow. He'll have thoughts on a bunch of stuff. A bunch of stuff. You know, one of my favorite moments was when Dan Hurley came on Today, and I've been on this for years. The G League's nonsense. The G League's been around since 2001, 25 years. They haven't developed a single star in the NBA. What does that tell you? What does that tell you? The G League's a bunch of nonsense. You get so much exposure. You're setting records, ratings records. If you're a dad and your kid can play in the NBA, go to college. Go to college. You get unbelievable exposure. You play in, like, real arenas. Like, the intensity of college. Like, it's like you don't want to play in some parking lot in El Paso. Like college basketball, these games matter a lot. There's a lot of eyes. You get exposure. The coaching's great. And that Nick Nurse coached in G League. There's some good coaches in G League, up and coming guys. But I love that what Dan Hurley said when I asked him about college basketball being better these days due to the nil, and he talked about it, most of those guys, you know, are making the smartest, a smart decision of staying in college, where basically they could now get the same amount of money. But you're also, you're going to get developed better at college than you will in the G League because the coaching is better. Better facilities, better food, better travel, better arenas, better coaching, better development. I have never been a fan of the G League. You know, in the game, if you go watch the G League, it's got a YMCA feel. Everybody's trying to get theirs now. Now, the best G League team sometimes is really good. You know, you get some of those guys, they're meant like the. Those European teams that Luka was playing well against when he was like 16. He's playing against men. You can get these G League teams. Some of these guys are older. But the other thing Hurley pointed out, too, is that, you know, I said, you know, is coaching as a coach, is it different to coach in the tournament where Hurley's been unbelievably successful or regular season? And he said, actually, he lightens up in the tournament. Here he is more relaxed this time of year. I think you work so hard to put yourself in position where you're in contention. Now you find yourself with a team that's in contention. You got. You're more relaxed this time of year. When you're coaching in December or January, you're really uptight, man. It's like if things start going bad in December, now you're looking at that staring down the barrel of man, I got two or three more months of hell with this group. If we get on a two game losing streak where you don't worry about picking the pieces up this time of year, if you go down, you know it's killer be killed. Yeah. And I think a lot of that is I look at college football now and college basketball with much more patience than I watched years ago. And the reason is the transfer portal. Right. Like you, you kind remember, I use this as an example and I don't remember the exact year, but years and years ago. May have been 10 years ago. When was it? No, it wasn't that many. It was, it was a Kansas team that I watched that like Christmas. And they were awful because it was all new guys. And then I watched them in like. And I had them getting bounced in the bracket. I watched them and you know, late February and I'm like, that's a totally different team. I feel the same way in college football is that I think it's, I think it's ridiculous to watch. Like when Ohio State went to Oregon and lost that shootout, I'm like, ohio State's going to be better. Ohio State's got more high end guys. But you got the transfer portal. You got new guys coming in and new assistants. And in college football, like, I just don't get worked up over September losses anymore. I mean go look at Miami that ended up in the national championship game. Miami lost to smu. Now SMU is a pretty good program. Lost to Louisville in the middle of the season. They were kind of a mess. Why? Well, they spent a lot of money in nil. They're bringing new guys in. You know, Carson Beck, they became a little less reliant on him. Ran the football a little bit more. It takes long time to you get new people in. You got the high schoolers, the transfer guys, the older guys, the younger guys, the new guys. So when I watch college basketball, what Hurley is basically saying is you're trying to mold this puppy. And you know your best players only spend one year in college, right. So you're getting a really young kid. Purdue is unique in which like they're like the Villanova model. They get some, they get some gray beards, they get some age on their team. But a lot of the top brands, the Kansas is in the Yukons, you don't get a guy for more than a year, maybe two, so. And you're bringing new guys in constantly. So, you know, it's what Hurley's basically saying is by the time the season ends, I've been able to craft and mold a team that I kind of know what they are. You don't know what you are in December. I mean, they, they actually had, they got blown out by Marquette earlier in the year, UConn. And I don't think Marquette wasn't a very good team this year. So they got shelled. That's what happens. So. And there we go. Put up the schedule one more time tonight. Purdue is one of the teams I really like. Iowa. Nebraska feels like a go either way. Game. Arkansas, Arizona. You're going to get a lot of offense in that game. I'm going to take Arizona, probably take Kelvin Sampson and Houston, though. Illinois is a tough out.
Colin Cowherd
You know, the game is at the Toyota center in Houston, so big home court advantage. Illinois was a team I had going into the Final Four in my brackets. I like them tonight. Colin. That's going to be a great game. I'm geeked. Hey, don't text me tonight. I'll be so locked in. Phone, face down, no alcoholic beverages. Exciting.
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This hour features a dynamic look at how MLB's evolution is making the game more exciting, a deep analysis of the top NFL Draft prospects with Joel Klatt, commentary on emerging talent in the UFL, the impacts of new sports rules, and a lively debate on NBA and college basketball storylines. The tone is conversational, opinionated, and insightful, blending expert perspective with practical sports talk.
[03:00–07:20] Colin Cowherd
“Rob Manfred got some heat. But every one of these tweaks has worked. ... Baseball brilliantly uses their minor league system to experiment.” — Colin ([05:46])
[07:23–09:26] Colin Cowherd & Joel Klatt
“I think that [no punts after the 50] one’s going to be really interesting ... a totally different sequence of events.” — Joel Klatt ([09:25])
A. Quarterbacks: Ty Simpson
[09:34–12:05] Jason McIntyre & Joel Klatt
“I think in order to have real success in the NFL as a quarterback, you’ve got to have a lot of experience in college ... [Ty Simpson] just doesn’t have that being a one-year starter.” — Joel Klatt ([11:53])
B. Positionless Talent: Arvell Reese
[12:05–15:26] Jason & Klatt
“You got a guy that hasn’t even played EDGE rusher for one full season in his life, and he’s that good ... I think he could be really dynamic.” — Joel Klatt ([14:33])
C. Forgotten Standout: Caleb Downs
[15:26–18:59] Jason & Klatt
“He’s just not big enough. And I’m like ‘Hey man, y’all stupid. Because this guy is a football playing Jesse.’ ... He’s going to be an All-Pro, the face of a franchise.” — Joel Klatt ([18:15])
D. Miami Prospects: Ruben Bain & Others
[19:17–20:50] Jason, Klatt & Colin
[21:24–23:01] Jason, Klatt & Colin
“When you had 53 plays offensively, I cannot have two picks. ... There’s more snaps today than 15 years ago ... So if I throw a pick, I got two more drives.” — Jason McIntyre ([25:23])
[29:42–32:01 | 45:25–51:13] Colin & Jason
“The G League’s been around since 2001 ... they haven’t developed a single star in the NBA. What does that tell you?” — Colin Cowherd ([45:44])
[32:15–35:36] Colin, Jason, Draymond Green
[35:36–38:10] Colin & Jason
[22:06] Joel Klatt
This hour highlights how innovation, talent evaluation, and open-mindedness to change are shaping sports for the better. The hosts maintain their signature blend of humor, candor, and insight throughout.