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Did you see the Colts pretzel? That was my other big takeaway from that game.
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Colin Cowherd
Thanks for listening to the Herd Podcast. Be sure to catch us live every weekday on Fox Sports Radio and noon to 3 Eastern, 9am to noon Pacific. Find your local station for the herd@foxsportsradio.com or stream us live every day on the iHeartRadio app by searching Fox Sports Radio or F. Now let's get this party started. You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. Here we go. Wednesday, hour two. All fired up. Joel Clatt in five minutes. So Padres can still beat the Cubs. Played yesterday. Cubs win game one. Padres have to play a certain way outside of Manny Machado and Tatif they don't have any home run hitters. Cubs have six guys who can hit over 20, hit over 20 home runs. So the bottom line is there is a way the Padres have to play. It's got to be moving runners. They let baseball in sacrifices. That's what they do. They. They win 3, 2, 4, 3. Occasionally Machado stands up, or Tattis. They don't hit home runs, but they lead baseball and sacrifice hits. And they have a great bullpen. So. But that bullpen is much more effective when you lead in the eighth inning and ninth inning. And so yesterday I'm watching this series, I'm like, oh, Padres can win this series. But they don't. They don't have the margins. They have to win a certain way. And they couldn't get the hits. Their best three hitters went over 11, and the Cubs only had six hits, but two were jacks. And that's really the difference here. There's. Stylistically, San Diego only got one hit with runners in scoring position. They had seven opportunities, but they couldn't get the hits. So they just don't have very wide margins. They have to hit with runners in scoring position. They got to get base knocks. That's what they do because they're not getting. They're not getting three and four run innings on the deep ball. So the reality of this series is the games. I think the games will be really close, but yesterday is kind of how the Padres are built to play. Move runners over, keep the score low, get a lead, six inning, go to the bullpen. Mike Schilt is the manager here. His thoughts on rebounding in game two. We know where it's, you know what we're looking at, right? So, I mean, you know, we got to take care of business tomorrow to set ourselves up to take care of business on Thursday, and we expect to do that. And in our clubhouse right now, it's disappointed, but nobody's hit, nobody's hanging their head. You know, this is a good club that knows what they're capable of doing and is eager to show up to go compete tomorrow. They want to get the ball and we'll take it from there. The Yankees loss is different, but somewhat similar. Is that they have a way to win, too. It's the opposite of the Padres. They don't sacrifice. It's all power. Having more money doesn't mean you don't have problems. More money, more problems. It's just different problems. The Yankees don't do a ton well, especially with Garrett Cole injured early in the season out. The bullpen's not very good. They don't sacrifice, you know, runners in scoring position. We need a single. That's not what the Yankees do. They're the opposite of the Padres. It's all power. And I mean, when's the last time the Yankees overachieved? That's a fair. I mean, Brian Cashman, 28 years. Randy Levine, 25 years. Aaron Rodgers, Aaron Rodgers, Aaron Boone, eight years. They're. They're really patient. I respect that. But the Kansas City Royals, low revenue, low payroll. Tampa are getting to the World Series as often in the last 15 years, 20 years. So Yankee fans have had enough. I mean, yesterday is a prime example of the Yankees. They struck out 13 times. Well, of course they did. They're the Yankees. They strike out a lot. So I said that last segment. I mean, the Angels and the Rockies strike out more. The Rockies have more home runs than the Padres. Rockies won 43 games. And. And the Yankees strike out at the Colorado Rockies pace, a team that won 43 games. So the Padres and Yankees are the opposite that I think they've got. They have a certain way they have to play. I mean, Yankees have to get home runs in high leverage spots. And you go to the ninth inning, and here comes 100 mile an hour, Araldis Chapman. And good luck. That's good luck. Here's Aaron Boone. I thought we had, you know, a lot of really good at bats against him. I thought Caballero's at bat the inning before was really good. You know, obviously Goldie getting us going. Judgy smoking a ball, belly doing his thing.
Eagles Analyst (possibly a co-host or guest commentator)
And then I thought, G, you know.
Colin Cowherd
G didn't get any results tonight, but.
Eagles Analyst (possibly a co-host or guest commentator)
I thought, I thought he had a.
Colin Cowherd
Lot of good swings, a lot of just misses. And, you know, they got us tonight. Yeah, that's not going to play well in sports talk radio in New York. But they're, they're. I mean, Milwaukee is the most complete team in baseball. I think that's inarguable. Dodgers, bullpen, Yank. Yikes. Yankee strikeouts, bullpen. Yikes. Cincinnati doesn't, you know, they don't have. They're going to get overwhelmed by the Dodgers. Padres can't get any big innings off the deep ball. So Cubs pretty complete. Brewers really pleat. Mariners pretty complete. But it's a wild playoff. You have low payroll, small market, big market. Yesterday was great. With that Joel Klatt joining us live, the voice of college football at Fox. He's got Wisconsin at Michigan Saturday. So I'm watching. We went Into a season. There were quarterbacks we all like. Drew Aller, Cade Klutnick. We all were like, okay, these guys are really good. And I had said the interesting guy about two weeks ago. I said, dante Moore throws the ball like a pro quarterback, and he's got movement. His ability to go to Penn State with that crowd and to be stoic and unbothered and have that temperament, like it was a little jaw dropping and. And to juxtapose him next to Aller, who doesn't have the feel to me, doesn't have the feel for the game that Dante Moore does. It just feels like Dante Moore, he just. Some guys just. It's just kind of innate. They just got a feel for it. I don't know. I watched him and I said yesterday, if I had a number one pick, I think I'd pick Dante more. I feel that. I think he's that good, is he not?
Drew Franklin
I think at this point, he would be one of my favorites for the Heisman Trophy, you know, And I do think he's that good. And, you know, you just described it as stoic and unbothered. I would say calm. He was calm. He was calm in the pocket. He was. His face was calm. And it didn't matter. The situation. It didn't matter if it was the first snap of the game. They're dealing with the crowd, crowd noise, all those fourth downs that they would go for where he was carrying the football. Didn't matter if he got hit, if he was having to leave the pocket to make throws, make throws from the pocket, if he was having to drive the football throw with touch across his body, he did all of it. And by the way, probably the best play that he made was that one that you're showing right now where, you know, it's in double overtime. And maybe the best defender in college football, or edge rusher in college football, denied that a sudden is bearing down on him, unblocked. And he calmly just protects the football, scoops it under him, steps up in the pocke, leaks out towards his right and delivers a dart. I mean, his. His ability to make plays is fantastic. But it's more than that, and you're touching on it. It's this calm nature that he has, and I think that that's born through preparation and ability. He's got great confidence in himself, everything around him. When I talk with Will Stein, their offensive coordinator, you know, he tells me that Dante prepares as well or better than anybody he's ever been around. And he was around Teddy Bridgewater who was historically one of the great preparers in college football at Louisville. So I think that the sky limit for Dante Moore, not only in college football here at Oregon and this season, but ultimately, you know, in the National Football League.
Colin Cowherd
So I have defended James Franklin, yes, he's losing, but I defended for years Ryan Day. I'm like, he's losing to Harbon, Michigan and Georgia. Give me a break. James Franklin's losing to the right people. That said, that felt like a game. You have to win home or Dante Moore never played in front of that crowd. You have mostly even players. You're at home. That one felt like, okay, I've defended James. You got to win that game, don't you?
Drew Franklin
I, I would agree with you. And, and I've done the same thing, you know, so I bring up this stat. Last week they were in the regular season over their last 14 and top 10 matchups going back to 2016, we talked about that. But, but this one was the first time that they were both the higher ranked and the favored team. So like you're saying in a lot of those matchups they're 18th in the country going to number two Ohio State. And it's like, listen, you're probably not going to win that game. So I think the narrative is a little bit overblown, although it is factual and this is one that you sit in the bucket where you've got to win this game. Oregon's in largely a rebuild. Here's what's scary for the Big Ten is that that's a rebuilt team, transfer portal and young players everywhere. True freshman back Dariel Dierre Hill, two freshmen at corner one red shirt, one true, like I said, rebuilt offensive line through, through the transfer portal. A quarterback that's making his first starts as a Duck and in particular in an environment like that. Meanwhile, Penn State has all of these experienced players back, including Drew Aller, their quarterback, and they can't win the football game. And that's the alarming part for Penn State. And so this is what I would say for Penn State is that you've got to have a clear eyed evaluation. You've got to have some competitive integrity and evaluate yourself honestly. What is going wrong in these moments. And I think that you've got to come down to two conclusions, Colin. Number one is this offensive system that they're trying to run is not a fit for Drew Aller. And unless you're going to change the quarterback, you better change the offensive system or at least how you go about it philosophically, he is not an RPO quarterback that wants to be a point guard, fast hands, fast feet type of guy. And yet that's the offense that they try to run. I think they need to take a page out of what Ohio State did a year ago, which they went and lost to Oregon in the regular season in Eugene and they changed their defense because of it. Why did they do that? Because of the players and the players skill set. They wanted to get Caleb Downs more involved in the action and so they changed the structure of their defense to better suit the players that they had. Well, they need to change the structure of the offense at Penn State to better suit their quarterback. And then the last thing would be game management. You know, I thought at the end of the half they did a poor job of leaving time for Oregon and Oregon got an extra possession out of that. And in those types of games you've got to do everything perfect. So James needs to be better at game management. And then I think that they need to take a hard look in the mirror at exactly what they're trying to do offensively and what Drew Outer can do. And they need to marry the two together.
Colin Cowherd
Okay. I don't think anybody's going to beat Ohio State because I think they're going to struggle to score. Last year I felt like Ohio State, between the receiving core, the quarterback play, stud running backs were both doing well in the NFL. I thought they just had too much offensive firepower as Oregon found out the first game and the second, the second one, Oregon couldn't keep up offensively. I look at this defense for Ohio State now, now I look at the defense and I'm like to go to Seattle, Jed Fish, they got, Washington's got some offensive pieces. They don't have Ohio State. They just, they made all the big plays. I think it's a different version. And by the way, last year they had Chip Kelly. So over the course of the season, that offense got smarter, it got more efficient. It just got. It grew and grew and grew and at the end it was a train. This is Matt, Patricia and okay. Now all of a sudden you start looking at it and you're like, oh, Arch Manning couldn't figure it out. Oh, Jed Fish in Washington couldn't figure it out. Okay. This is powerhouse personnel. Great offensive coach. I think Ohio State looks like a team that's going to play for the national championship.
Drew Franklin
You, you know, you remember watching Usain Bolt run the hundred.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah.
Drew Franklin
And, and he was the fastest, but it looks like he was running the easiest.
Colin Cowherd
Remember that?
Drew Franklin
And like Everybody else is like, you know, like this and he's just kind of gliding through the line, looking back at people. That's, that's what Ohio State feels like to me right now because they haven't even gotten into fourth gear offensively, like they haven't needed it. They've played very conservative football and relied on their defense. And here's what's interesting. And Colin, I don't disagree with your premise, although I would just say I think that selling last year's team just a little bit short, that was the number one defense in college football a year ago, the number one defense and they're better this year. That's the scary part.
Colin Cowherd
It's different this year.
Drew Franklin
It's different because of the speed and athleticism that they have. In particular at the second level. Two guys that I want to point out, Sonny Styles, which is a experience linebacker that moved from safety a couple of years ago, he's a terrific player. And then this new starter that they have, Arvell Reese, you should hear scouts talk about Arvel Reese. This guy is a game wrecker at the linebacker position and they're so long and fast that opposing offenses can't do anything against them. That's why Damon Williams, who's a really terrific running quarterback, dual threat guy, he couldn't get loose because these guys were spying him. Oh, hey, by the way, the best defender in the sport is behind those guys and Caleb Downs. So it provides an opportunity for a young defensive line to continue to develop, which they are. Kaden Curry had three sacks last week and that's what makes them such a dangerous team and why the offense has just been gliding along second gear, third gear. We haven't even seen the best from Julian Sain and Jeremiah Smith and they're just developing themselves into a team. And that's what worries me for the rest of college football is the team that looks like they're, they're running the easiest is actually running the fastest right now.
Colin Cowherd
So I went to the USC game and my takeaway people were banging on Lincoln Riley because they scored too fast in the end. And my takeaway is when you're on the road with 20 year old kids and you can score a touchdown, score a touchdown. Their offensive line was missing their left.
Drew Franklin
I would disagree with that. I would disagree with that.
Colin Cowherd
You think they should have played around and gotten cute?
Drew Franklin
Well, no, they didn't need to play around and get cute. They just needed to keep the integrity of the drive that they were on. So, so they got the ball down six so they're down 14. They go down and score and go for two. Okay, great.
Colin Cowherd
All right.
Drew Franklin
The analytics tell them to go for two. They get it. So now they're down six and an extra point is going to win the game if they can put the ball in the end zone. And I will give you this, you have to score, and I understand that. And you'll take a score whenever you get it. However, the drive as it was constructed, the philosophy of that drive, they got the ball with around four minutes to go and they wanted to make it the last drive. That's how they executed. That was the philosophy of the drive, the integrity of the drive up until the point where they're just inside of the red zone. And now there's just inside of two minutes. They have bled all of that time. They're running the football well, they're throwing some screen routes, they're moving the ball. Illinois still has all three timeouts left. There's about a minute 55, and all of a sudden on first down, you take a shot to the end zone, like out of the blue. No, no, no. You keep the integrity of the drive. That doesn't mean that you're messing around. It doesn't mean that you're trying to drain the clock. It just means that you're in the philosophy of how you're moving the football. If they hand the football off once, great, twice, even better. You're draining the timeouts, you're draining the clock, and then you can still get a first down in that moment, which would have been just inside of the six yard line and you can still score. So my criticism was just that at first down was not the time to take a shot. If you want to take a shot on third down right there, you know, I would be fine with that. But again, stay in the integrity of the philosophy that you had from the beginning of the drive.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah, J. Mac texted me after the touchdown. He goes, ooh, good win for usc. And I said, illinois has a great kicker. They scored way too fast and their defense looks fatigued. They can't get a pass rush.
Drew Franklin
Now I turned to Gus right after the touchdown and I said, illinois wins. Right after the USC touchdown. As soon as that, they took a shot and he caught that ball. Brett Bielema must have been thrilled on the sideline. I know that sounds wild. It does. I get it. I understand. But Illinois had been moving the ball all day long. The only thing that stopped him were fumbles at the goal line. And they got a great kicker. They were winning the game.
Colin Cowherd
So when everybody banged on Harbaugh for years, Joel Klatten, myself were like, you think he can't coach? Settle down. Take a deep breath. A lot of the flamethrowers at other networks went crazy. You and I didn't. When people wanted Ryan Day fired, you and I were like, yeah, he's losing to Harbaugh, who's been to Super Bowls. He's losing to Georgia. Ryan Day's a really good coach and he won a natty. So Kalen DeBoer, I said this when Bama hired him. Greg Byrne, I said, he could have hired Dan Lanning. Southern ties. He could have gone after Debo. Southern ties. There were a lot of people he could have hired. And Greg Byrne goes, no, I'm going to go west and I'm going to get that Washington guy. And I thought, despite being a great coach, you know, the SEC has gobbled up a lot of good coaches, and I thought it was kind of a gutty hire. You know, Dabo could have been there if you threw a ton at him and other guys. Dan Lanning has that Southern background. When he was beating Georgia and out coaching Kirby Smart, my take was, why are you doubting Ryan Day, Jim Harbaugh and Kaylin DeBoer. Do you not think they can co. I thought his first half game plan was unbelievable.
Drew Franklin
Yeah, it was incredible. It was incredible. I. I love their answer. That team looks far different than the team that lost to Florida State. I mean, not even the same team at all. The effort level was different. The offensive line play in terms of protecting the quarterback was much different. And that's. That's actually the main point, is that if they can protect Ty Simpson, he's an extraordinary quarterback. And they've got great weapons on the outside with Williams. Bernard, so they can throw the football. And deboer and Ryan Grubb. Remember, Ryan Grubb was not there last year. He was the offensive coordinator for the Seahawks after they were together in Washington. Now Grubb is back with him. And when they have the right fit at quarterback, it's really beautiful. They had that with Michael Pinnicks at Washington. Now they have it with Ty Simpson at Alabama. So they can throw the football as well as anybody in the country. My worry for Alabama, though, is that there's still some glaring holes right now with the way that they play. They gave up 200 yard rushing to Georgia. They gave up 200 yards rushing to Florida State, and they don't run the football very well. So Ty Simpson basically has to have A cape on his back. The game plan has to be perfect for them to go win. That makes me nervous in what I think is a balanced league. I don't think the SEC is a great league this year with a great team, but it's balanced and it's going to be a lot of one score games. They might be in a one score game this week at home against Vanderbilt with Diego Pavia and if you all of a sudden have an off day throwing the football or your offensive line is not protecting well that day you're finished, you're done. And so that's what makes me worried about Alabama is it's not the Alabama that we're used to. Everything you said about Kalen DeBoer I agree with. He's a great coach, there's no doubt. But this, this seems to be, I don't want to say a one trick pony, but there is one clearly excellent part of this team and several average areas. Areas of this team. And that would worry me going forward.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah. Listen, let's be honest about Colle. It is not just Georgia, Bama, Clemson.
Drew Franklin
That's right.
Colin Cowherd
Really, it's very, very even because. And what happened about four years ago in the transfer portal is it used to be Bama, Georgia. If, if, oh, left tackle goes down. Well, we got a five star guy behind him.
Drew Franklin
Yeah, they stockpiled talent.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah, that guy now goes to Louisville or Texas Tech or he gets purchased. So Alabama and Georgia don't have the depth, the dominance depth. They have really good players. But if a running back gets hurt, the second running back is not an NFL player. Sometimes when I'm watching Georgia I'm like, they're just not as fast, they're not as dominating. And by the way, Bama's got good players, but they have holes under Saban. You're like their, their third corner was unbelievable. So the transfer portal in nil has made this sport very even.
Drew Franklin
Yeah. And by the way, how about all the people that, that lament those two things? And I get it, it's frustrating. But just because something's frustrating doesn't mean that it's bad. Okay. And what we've seen in college football is a transformation of the Sport where now 10, 12, 13 teams I think could possibly win the national championship. Now is it totally likely? I don't know if it's totally likely, but prior to this Colin and you and I used to talk about this, there were like three maybe that would win the national championship or could win the national championship.
Colin Cowherd
You watched the SEC and It looks so much faster than the Big Ten. Yeah.
Drew Franklin
And now that's done. Now that's done. In fact, I'd say the three best teams that I've seen so far, probably Ohio State, Penn State and Oregon, maybe Miami mix and they're like, you can't even get to an SEC team in the kind of the top four. I know people are propping up and I maybe do this with A and M and maybe Texas or Georgia or Alabama. But the elite teams in college football no longer rest in the sec. The top of the sport now rests in the Big Ten. And it's just true.
Colin Cowherd
Now, thank God you and I aren't just out here for clicks. We're given nuance.
Drew Franklin
That's right. It was great to see you Saturday, by the way.
Colin Cowherd
It was. I, you know what? I was. Somebody said, do you want to go see Gus and Joel Clatt? And I said, you know what? Professionals don't want to get in the way of the production. And I did the pre game show and I said with the. But the barstool guys. And I said, that's fun. I'll go downstairs and, you know, do that stuff. But a couple pros up there, I didn't want to get in the way.
Drew Franklin
That's right, that's right. Sacred ground up there in the booth. We don't just let anybody in.
Colin Cowherd
That's right. That's right. I didn't have the passes. The. I wasn't equipped with the accurate passes that get you in. JOEL Klatz voice College football. Mark Sanchez, next hours. Got all sorts of great stuff. And J. Mac, this town yesterday I took the train home. There's nobody on it. Cubs game.
Eagles Analyst (possibly a co-host or guest commentator)
Well, hey, listen, LA is rolling out the red carpet for you. I'm trying to get Dust Dodgers tickets for the next round so you and I can hang a little bit, you know, I know you're very excited. Very excited.
Colin Cowherd
I know people in New York think, ah, New York is the best baseball city. The Dodgers outdraw both. Last time I checked, the Dodgers drew like 7,000 more a game then New York, the Yankees. And remember, Dodger Stadium's not easy to get in and out of it, basically. And I'm not, I'm saying it's a great state. It's one of the oldest stadiums, so they're not selling new cool stuff. It's an old stadium. It is hard to get into. Traffic in LA stinks.
Eagles Analyst (possibly a co-host or guest commentator)
Everywhere stinks.
Colin Cowherd
And they are. Listen, I always thought it was a Laker town and then you move to Los Angeles. It's a Dodger town.
Eagles Analyst (possibly a co-host or guest commentator)
I would slightly say Dodgers over Lakers.
Drew Franklin
Yes. Yes.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah, it's. And the other thing is they won the division again. It's so funny. Everybody's lamenting the Dodgers. Oh my God, what do they win? 93 games? If they would have blown just half the saves. Yeah, just think about this. 13 saves. They would have won 106 games. What? Seven? No. Yeah, I'm bad with math.
Eagles Analyst (possibly a co-host or guest commentator)
It's a little early for math. Yes.
Colin Cowherd
Yes it is, folks. One more herd.
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Hey, this is Matt Jones, I'm Drew Franklin and this is NFL Cover Zero. We think NFL coverage should be informative and entertaining and twice a week. That is exactly what you're gonna get. We're just here to try to give you an NFL perspective a little bit different.
Drew Franklin
Did you see the Colts pretzel? That was my other big takeaway from that game.
Matt Jones
What was that?
Drew Franklin
Looks like something that should not be sold.
Matt Jones
Oh my.
Drew Franklin
So that was my other big Colts takeaway.
Matt Jones
They sold that?
Colin Cowherd
Yes.
Matt Jones
I might want to go back at the Colt Stadium.
Drew Franklin
Yeah, I might want to go back to the drawing board on that.
Matt Jones
Yeah.
Drew Franklin
I thought the shape we have with pretzels was working pretty well for generations.
Matt Jones
We're just here trying to enjoy it. We hope you all will join us throughout the year. And let's go.
Drew Franklin
I hope I'm as youthful as Pete Carroll is at his age. He's a young 73.
Matt Jones
He is a young 73. He is spry.
Drew Franklin
I wouldn't fight him.
Matt Jones
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Mandy Money
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Colin Cowherd
I'm Dan, he's Ty. Hello. And we're the Solid Verbal college football podcast.
Tyler (Ty) or Dan from Solid Verbal Podcast
College football season is here. And you know what that means.
Drew Franklin
Your team is going to break your heart three times probably before Halloween.
Colin Cowherd
Uh huh.
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But fear not, the Solid verbal will be right there with you through every soul crushing loss and impossible comeback.
Colin Cowherd
Join us all season long, all year.
Drew Franklin
Long, as we ride the rollercoaster of this ridiculous sport.
Tyler (Ty) or Dan from Solid Verbal Podcast
Whether you're a die hard fan or a casual observer, we'll help you make sense of all the chaos and of course, celebrate the madness. Tune in for previews, recaps, bits you won't hear anywhere else, and all the emotional support you need as a college football fan.
Colin Cowherd
We don't just love college football, Ty, we live it.
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Colin Cowherd
You were busy last night or you went to bed in the Midwest or the east coast and you did not see Shohei Ohtani's sixth inning second home run. Here it is, AM570 in LA on a 11 Ohtani. It's a towering ball, deep right field. He flips the bat and watches it fly three quarters of the way up the pavilion. Just a mammoth blast for his second home run and the Dodgers are pouring it on in game one. I remember a couple years ago when I said he's better than Babe Ruth. Whoa, folks, he is so much better than Babe Ruth. Steals, ace power average. I mean, there's just nothing like him. I remember when Michael Jordan was in the league and I can remember watching it on the couch with a friend against the Phoenix Suns in the finals. And I'm thinking Barkley may be the second best player in the game and Barkley had a great series and Barkley wasn't close. Like, that's what I feel like. Like Gretzky. It sounds ridiculous to argue Gretzky's not the best hockey player of all time. Like, it's just ridiculous. And it's like Ohtani is notches above Freddie Freeman and Mookie Betts who are, you know, hall of Fame level players. He's just an all timer and we all get to watch him. J. Mack with the news.
Matt Jones
No, no, no, no.
Colin Cowherd
Turn on the news. This is.
Eagles Analyst (possibly a co-host or guest commentator)
You know who else we get to watch as a superstar? Mr. George Pickens. How about that game on Sunday Night Football, Colin, against the Packers? I mean, he was phenomenal. Two touchdowns and listen, I'm not calling him a superstar. Jerry Jones is. Are you ready for this? Listen to what Jerry Jones said about acquiring Pickens and his potential future.
Colin Cowherd
He's an exemplary teammate. He is exemplary in his work preparation. I'm proud to tell you that we've got some outstanding structure in our cap space that will allow us to do a lot of things That I didn't think when we finished this time last year that we might have the room to do some of these things we're talking about doing. We paid a price for it. We had to not sign some players that we might have thought we should or fans might have thought ought to be signed. On the other hand, we can do it now.
Eagles Analyst (possibly a co-host or guest commentator)
So if you couldn't clearly hear that through that Texas draw or the Southern draw, I'll say he essentially was saying, hey, if we had signed Micah, we couldn't get Pickens. But now we didn't sign Micah so we could afford Pickens.
Colin Cowherd
That's right. And I said, he's gonna go pay Pickens. Green Bay is gonna win this trade just like, just like the Heat did when they got Shaq. When the Lakers had to make a choice, they knew that Kobe, long term, better shape, harder practice player, more committed. But they knew for the first couple years because Shaq was going to a very good ready to win a title team, they were going to have to eat a dirt sandwich in the trade and get crushed. But the Lakers were right. This is one of those where Dallas is right doing this, but they're going to get crushed because Green Bay is really good. They now have four first round picks in the next two years and do not need a quarterback, do you? Everybody like Cleveland has two. They need a quarterback. Rams have two. They'll draft the quarterback to have two first round picks. That means, let's say the Cowboys have the number eight draft spot. Somebody's going to go up and offer them a third and a fourth or a third and a fifth and they can go, okay, and then they can do that again when they move back to 12 and they can do it again. Dallas could literally get six picks with one of their first round picks. Because if you go into a draft next year, I wrote it down the other day, the teams that need a quarterback next year, and I wrote down eight teams. Now I'm counting the Rams who don't need one today, but they will in a couple of years. And Arizona I think would consider if the right one fell to them. So I counted those two. You start doing jets and Cleveland. I didn't count the Giants Jackson dart. I think they'll go with him. I started counting teams once again. Six teams, maybe eight could put themselves in a position to draft the quarterback. And the Cowboys are going to have a top 10 pick and maybe one of the only teams go look at the standings right now, one of the only teams that'll be a top 10 pick that doesn't need a quarterback is Dallas. This is going to work out so well for them, right?
Eagles Analyst (possibly a co-host or guest commentator)
So timeout. You had me and lost me. Okay, so a couple things. First of all, on this quarterback thing, we talk about Glass Joe Burrow, okay? I look at the last five seasons of Dak Prescott. He's been missing a lot of games with injuries, so I don't. And he's. And he's older than Burrow. He's 32, so I don't know that he's. The Cowboys don't need a quarterback. They got to think about a backup at some point. That being said, this idea that becoming the Cincinnati Bengals is a good thing, they're essentially Higgins, Chase and Burrow, that's what they will be in the playoffs.
Colin Cowherd
The Cowboys have better personnel than Cincinnati, and Burrow has been hurt multiple times. And Cincinnati's got infrastructure issues, a tiny scouting department.
Eagles Analyst (possibly a co-host or guest commentator)
Dallas's defense cannot stop anybody.
Colin Cowherd
Dallas this year. Dallas is a franchise that consistently, when they have it, will spend money, spend it on Dak, spend it on cd, spend it on Tyron Smith, spend it on Zach Martin. They keep their stars. Here's one they didn't because they got trapped the last two years. They had no flexibility. They couldn't even spend $8 million on Derrick Henry. So Jerry's like, I'm a deal maker. I can't make any deals. And so I don't know. I do not consider, if it's a word, the frugality of Cincinnati and Dallas. When Dallas has stars, they pay him. And they often pay him early. Not all the time, but they have. Jalen Smith's a linebacker. They shouldn't have paid and they paid. Cincinnati never does that.
Eagles Analyst (possibly a co-host or guest commentator)
One final note. We know Pickens is in college. He had some issues. And in Pittsburgh. Colin, you remember when Mark Sanchez off air told us when he was with the jets, there was a receiver who was a bit of a problem, who was playing his butt off for a contract. The second he got it, he starts showing up late, was an issue. I'm not going to say the receiver's name. Jets fans know who I'm talking about. Colin. That there is that risk with Pickens. We know he's playing for a contract. He has had issues in the past. He is a high risk, high reward player.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah, I'm not. I'm not paying. Some players are leases. Some, some. Some relationships are dating. Pickens has been great this year. But at wide receiver, CD Lambs a star. I'll go draft other wide receiver.
Mandy Money
Okay.
Eagles Analyst (possibly a co-host or guest commentator)
All Right, let's move on to the Philadelphia Eagles. Colin, now this is interesting. Tush push Eagles face the Broncos this week. Numbers coming down. By the way, Sean Payton was asked about the quote unquote controversial Tush push. Here's what he had to say.
Colin Cowherd
I was one the stood up in favor of. The reason I stood up in favor of is is pretty simple. If the powers to be don't want it for aesthetic reasons or competitive reason, you know, or it's hard to officiate, etc. But I've been involved in those meetings.
Drew Franklin
For a long time.
Colin Cowherd
And when all of a sudden health and safety was pulled into that which. Which might be the safest play in football, my bull nose kind of went up.
Eagles Analyst (possibly a co-host or guest commentator)
Are you reading anything? Is this gamesmanship on his part?
Colin Cowherd
Yes.
Eagles Analyst (possibly a co-host or guest commentator)
Ahead of the Tush push?
Colin Cowherd
No.
Eagles Analyst (possibly a co-host or guest commentator)
So by the way, Philly had that wrinkle with the Saquon Barkley handoff out of the Tush push. And they had a couple Dallas Goddard little shovel passes. Listen, they're being really smart with this. That being said, Colin, very interesting game. This was four and a half. It's down to three and a half. We're waiting on word on Jalen Carter mri.
Colin Cowherd
Dude, I already turned my back yesterday on a Tuesday and I had Denver plus the point. Oh, man.
Eagles Analyst (possibly a co-host or guest commentator)
Okay. I was. The headlines crew was already asked for Friday's picks. This game was in will be involved on Friday. Final story Con. Let's go to the Seattle Seahawks. Your team. I kind of scoffed at you when you said they were in the super bowl bubble. Hey, man, they host Baker Mayfield in week five. Now, interesting issue here is the Mariners are hosting the divisional round at T Mobile park across the street from Lumen Field. The NFL game could be delayed one to two hours. And Mike McDonald addressed that situation Monday.
Colin Cowherd
From what, from what I understand, it's not that big of a move, so we would just adjust our morning schedule accordingly. It's really no big deal. It's actually, it's actually kind of great that we're going to be forced to move. I think that's, it's awesome for our city and it's going to be a really exciting Sunday. You know, they call Seattle Winnersville nothing but winners.
Eagles Analyst (possibly a co-host or guest commentator)
Did you just make that up? So it's, it's interesting because the 4pm slate has some good games on Sunday. 4pm for the east coast, obviously. Tampa, Seattle's good. Tennessee, Arizona is a dud. But Jaden Daniels returning versus the Chargers, one of us here might be at that game. And then Lions, Bengals. Jake Browning getting smashed by the Lions will be fun. I'm embarrassed that I was scoffing at you for liking Seattle in the preseason. Colin. Sometimes, you know, the squirrel gets a nut every once in a while, and I think you're onto something. I like Seattle against Baker this weekend.
Drew Franklin
So do I.
Colin Cowherd
Boy, I'm gonna be insufferable. I'm gonna be insufferable if Darnold wins.
Eagles Analyst (possibly a co-host or guest commentator)
That puppy and the Mariners get to the world, too. That's not happening.
Colin Cowherd
I have brewers beating the Mariners in six.
Eagles Analyst (possibly a co-host or guest commentator)
Yankees are going. They're fine.
Colin Cowherd
All right, J. Mac with the news.
Tyler (Ty) or Dan from Solid Verbal Podcast
Well, that's the news, and thanks for.
Colin Cowherd
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Matt Jones
Hey, this is Matt Jones and I'm Drew Franklin and this is NFL Cover Zero. We think NFL coverage should be informative and entertaining and twice a week that is exactly what you're gonna get. We're just here to try to give you an NFL perspective a little bit different.
Drew Franklin
Did you see the Colts Pretzel? That was my other big takeaway from that game.
Matt Jones
What was that?
Drew Franklin
Looks like something that should not be sold.
Matt Jones
Oh my.
Drew Franklin
So that was my other big Colts takeaway.
Matt Jones
Sold that.
Colin Cowherd
Yes.
Matt Jones
Might want to go back at the Colts stadium.
Drew Franklin
Yeah, I might want to go back to the drawing board on that.
Matt Jones
Yeah.
Drew Franklin
I thought the shape we have with pretzels was working pretty well for generations.
Matt Jones
We're just here trying to enjoy it. We hope you all will join us throughout the year. And let's go.
Drew Franklin
I hope I'm as youthful as Pete Carroll is at his age. He's a young 73.
Matt Jones
He is a young 73. He is spry.
Drew Franklin
I wouldn't fight him.
Matt Jones
I would listen NFL Cover Zero with Matt Jones and Drew Franklin on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
Colin Cowherd
I'm Dan, he's Ty. Hello. And we're the Solid Verbal College Football Podcast.
Tyler (Ty) or Dan from Solid Verbal Podcast
College football season is here and you know what that means.
Drew Franklin
Your team is going to break your.
Colin Cowherd
Heart three times probably before Halloween. Uh huh.
Tyler (Ty) or Dan from Solid Verbal Podcast
But fear not, the solid verbal will be right there with you through every soul crushing loss and impossible comeback.
Colin Cowherd
Join us all season long, all year.
Drew Franklin
Long, as we ride the rollercoaster of this ridiculous sport.
Tyler (Ty) or Dan from Solid Verbal Podcast
Whether you're a diehard fan or a casual observer, we'll help you make sense of all the chaos and of course, celebrate the madness. Tune in for previews, recaps, bits you won't hear anywhere else, and all the emotional support you need as a college football fan.
Colin Cowherd
We don't just love college football, Tai, we live it.
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Listen to the Solid Verbal College Football podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
Mandy Money
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Eagles Analyst (possibly a co-host or guest commentator)
Big Noon is back in Ann Arbor, and Michigan's own El Presidente is leading the charge. The pregame party starts at 10am Eastern. Then it's QB Bryce Underwood and the Wolverines going head to head with Wisconsin at noon. Big noon Saturday only on Fox.
Colin Cowherd
Okay, so.
Eagles Analyst (possibly a co-host or guest commentator)
This is.
Colin Cowherd
I just got this footage. So before we run it, let me set it up. It'll be tough for the radio audience to understand this or decipher it. This is kind of for tv, but, you know, I got to show you the video. Dylan Gabriel is going to start for the Browns at quarterback, but Flacco is being benched but still remains number two. Shador Sanders. Even if Dylan Gabriel falters, they'll just bring Flacco back in. So Shedeur is now three. And so he was asked multiple questions by the Cleveland media today. He had a smile. I've said before, he seemed like a nice kid. He had a smile. I don't think he's about talking. Always the most mature. But he, he smiled, but he mouths the words without actually speaking. It is odd. So here's what it looks like. What can you say?
Eagles Analyst (possibly a co-host or guest commentator)
How much has Joe been important to both you and Dylan in terms of.
Colin Cowherd
Your guys, like, development to this point from prime time to mime time? Apparently that's a legendary response. So it's something I, I don't know what to make of it. You know, I got gray hair. He's in his early 20s. I don't want to pick on people.
Eagles Analyst (possibly a co-host or guest commentator)
Wait a minute, Wait a minute. What just happened? I've never seen that in my life.
Colin Cowherd
I. I don't even know.
Eagles Analyst (possibly a co-host or guest commentator)
Was he. Is he doing a skit? Like, what?
Colin Cowherd
He's got a mother and a father. I wish them the best. I mean, I'm hard enough on J.J. mcCarthy.
Eagles Analyst (possibly a co-host or guest commentator)
You know, do we have a lip reader on staff? Like, what's he saying?
Colin Cowherd
You know what? He's smiling.
Eagles Analyst (possibly a co-host or guest commentator)
What is he. This is. This is the NFL. You're a professional athlete. This is. This is not like juco, where you can joke around with this stuff. What is he saying?
Colin Cowherd
Well, he's mouthing it. He's not saying it. I think the point is he doesn't want to be quoted, maybe by newspaper people. So he's mouth, he's mouthing it without saying it. But okay, Colin, it's, it's on tv. No, I know we're in the communication business. He's in the football playing business. So I think he's just, I, I, you know what I mean? Like, I don't want to pick on him. I, I don't even understand what he's doing.
Eagles Analyst (possibly a co-host or guest commentator)
But whatever he's doing is going to be a big story today. It's like Wednesday. It's not a lot happening in the NFL. This is going to be everywhere. This is going to get 3 million views on Instagram, Twitter, all that stuff.
Colin Cowherd
Again, the NFL doesn't care about influencers. Thank God Instagram does. So I don't know. It's, it is what it is. It's. Listen, I covered this story like crazy. I, I literally during the summer because I was so interested in it. And I've said this before, the audience drives the bus. I don't what you're interested in. I talked about. So I was fascinated by it because I thought he was a good quarterback. He dropped to the fifth round, he tore it up in OTAs. And he literally was like, they had him four string. So I would go every day and just say, is this thing hitting? Is it tracking? And it was. Everybody else was fascinated. Now it's more like sad, weird, odd. And I. And that, like the J.J. mcCarthy situation, similarly to me, is getting to a point where I didn't buy in to him. I said it, I stated. I always want to state my opinion on J.J. mcCarthy. I'm like, I buy Caleb, I buy Drake, I buy Knicks, I buy Panics. I thought it was a great quarterback draft class. The one guy I pushed back on was JJ McCarthy. I think I've been proven right. But it will get to some point. If it's a confidence above the shoulder issue with J.J. mcCarthy, then I don't feel comfortable talking about it. This thing's getting odd and weird. It's gone from compelling to like, crazy, whatever that is. I don't know, I feel it's just not working, you know, and maybe it works somewhere else. But I believe it or not, I don't wake up in the morning. Like, I used to never criticize college kids and now they get paid. They're professionals. Okay? You're like, if you come intern for Fox and we pay you, I'm going to yell at you. If you're an unpaid intern, I'm not going to. But if you got paid as an intern and you screwed up, I'd bark at you. You're a professional. That's how I view it. So. I never like to criticize college kids. Now you got quarterbacks making more than offensive coordinators. It's a different ball game. So he's a professional athlete. I'm gonna. I'm gonna criticize professional athletes. But there does come a point when it's like. It pivots to compelling to sad.
Eagles Analyst (possibly a co-host or guest commentator)
Sad.
Colin Cowherd
And I just don't feel like. I just don't feel like I want to be part of that.
Eagles Analyst (possibly a co-host or guest commentator)
But here's the thing. Somebody had to tell him, hey, hey, why don't you try this? You could screw with the media and it would be funny like that. That's terrible advice.
Colin Cowherd
Well, whatever. But that. Maybe that's it. I. You know, this is the last time I'm gonna run it. Yeah. He's got a smile on his face. He's joking around. He is very. He is. I said. When he came into the league, I said. One of the things I didn't love about him, he was kind of silly. I think he's a nice kid. He grew up with some money, comfortable. He's a little bit silly for my taste. I didn't like Drew Locke. I thought he was silly. I wasn't. I thought Cam was distracted. And I've said this before. Jameis Winston. A little silly. Jameis Winston Baker Mayfield, you know, Johnny Manziel. I. That's.
Eagles Analyst (possibly a co-host or guest commentator)
Maybe immature is the word.
Colin Cowherd
I've always pushed back. I think maturity matters a lot. I pushed back on Johnny. I pushed back on Baker. I pushed back on Jameis. And I thought he. But I just thought he was a. He threw an accurate football and move well. But, you know, whatever.
Eagles Analyst (possibly a co-host or guest commentator)
Is it possible he lost his voice and he could.
Colin Cowherd
That's a great. Yes.
Eagles Analyst (possibly a co-host or guest commentator)
Maybe that's okay.
Colin Cowherd
There's a cold going around Cleveland.
Eagles Analyst (possibly a co-host or guest commentator)
Yeah.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah.
Eagles Analyst (possibly a co-host or guest commentator)
Okay.
Colin Cowherd
All right. Well, I mean, you couldn't audible, so, I mean, you couldn't play anyway. It's crazy. God, yesterday was fun with all the baseball playoffs. It was really fun. In Chicago. I took the train. It was empty. It was. You know, and it goes past Wrigleyville. I think one of the things that's cool about the baseball playoffs, you got small market. Milwaukee, I think, is the best team in the sport. I mean, they. What do they go 6, 0 against the Dodgers or something? This year you have big market New York and Los Angeles that can't get people out late in games and their Yankees are uneven. The Dodgers just have a bad bullpen. San Diego has stars but has to win by sacrificing and moving runners and old school baseball. And then you've got, you know, the Jays and the brewers are lead the league in singles a. Yankees Dodgers are home runs. Home runs cost a lot more than singles hitters. But there are so many different ways to win in so many compelling stories. And I got to give it, I got to give credit to baseball. The bigger bases, defensive shift, universal dh, speed the game up. Rob Manfred. Finally we got a baseball commissioner who pushed back on traditionalists and that there's a way to play the game. Baseball is fast, it's fun. There's drama, there's action. Small markets, big markets. This is a really good time for baseball. The games move really quickly and yesterday was a great day. All right, Week five of the NFL. Mark Sanchez, as always, brings tape. He'll join us. Last hour, Hour three, the Toyota Certified Used Vehicle Sales event is here. It is packed with great surprises. Choose from a wide selection of low mileage vehicles, all backed by Toyota, with warranties that begin on the date of purchase. Because when it comes to quality, the best new cars make the best used cars. So don't miss your chance. Find your certified Toyota today. But hurry. These Great offers end November 3rd. Toyota Certified used Vehicle Sales event where every surprise is a great one. Inventory may vary by dealer, participating dealers only. Comprehensive and powertrain are limited warranties. See tcuv warranty supplementtoyotacertified.com or your Toyota dealer for details.
Matt Jones
Hey, this is Matt Jones and I'm Drew Franklin and this is NFL Cover Zero. We're just here to try to give you an NFL perspective a little bit different.
Drew Franklin
Did you see the Colts pretzel? That was my other big takeaway from that game.
Matt Jones
What was that? Oh, my. We think NFL coverage should be informative and entertaining. And twice a week, that is exactly what you're gonna get. Listen NFL Cover Zero with Matt Jones and Drew Franklin on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast.
Colin Cowherd
Podcast. I'm Dan.
Drew Franklin
He's Ty.
Colin Cowherd
Hello. And we're the Solid Verbal College Football Podcast.
Tyler (Ty) or Dan from Solid Verbal Podcast
Tune in for previews, recaps, bits you won't hear anywhere else, and all the emotional support you need as a college football fan.
Drew Franklin
Join us all season long as we ride the roller coaster of this ridiculous sport.
Tyler (Ty) or Dan from Solid Verbal Podcast
Listen to the Solid Verbal College Football podcast on the iHeartRadio radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Colin Cowherd
We don't just love college football, Ty. We live it.
Mandy Money
Do we really need another podcast with a condescending finance bro trying to tell us how to spend our own money? No, thank you. Instead, check out Brown Ambition. Each week I your host, Mandy Money, gives you real talk, real advice with a heavy dose of I feel useless. Like on Fridays when I take your questions for the baqa. Whether you're trying to invest for your future, navigate a toxic work workplace, I got you. Listen to Brown ambition on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. This is an iHeart podcast.
Hour 2 – MLB Playoffs, Dante Moore’s Rise, James Franklin’s Missed Moment, Ohio State’s Dominance, CFB Parity & NFL Storylines
Original Air Date: October 1, 2025
In this episode, Colin dives into the contrasting styles and fates of MLB playoff contenders, then welcomes Fox Sports’ Joel Klatt for a deep, nuanced discussion on college football. They zero in on Oregon's Dante Moore as a top quarterback, debate James Franklin's coaching at Penn State, and survey the new parity of college football driven by the transfer portal and NIL. The hour closes with rapid-fire takes on NFL and MLB cities, league parity, and evolving strategies, all delivered with Colin’s trademark mix of humor and candor.
“Having more money doesn’t mean you don’t have problems... Yankee fans have had enough.” – Colin Cowherd (05:28)
“It’s this calm nature that he has, and I think that’s born through preparation and ability. He’s got great confidence in himself, everything around him.” – Joel Klatt (09:30)
“They need to change the structure of the offense at Penn State to better suit their quarterback.” – Joel Klatt (12:38)
“We haven’t even seen the best from Julian Sain and Jeremiah Smith... The team that looks like they’re running the easiest is actually running the fastest right now.” – Joel Klatt (15:30)
“Just stay in the integrity of the philosophy that you had from the beginning of the drive.” (17:30)
“His ability to make plays is fantastic. But it’s more than that… He prepares as well or better than anybody.” – Joel Klatt (09:00–10:00)
“The transfer portal in NIL has made this sport very even.” – Colin Cowherd (21:47)
For anyone who missed it: This hour was a tour de force—moving expertly from MLB playoff intricacies and team-building strategies, through granular CFB analysis and player psychology, and onto NFL big-picture scheming and draft logic—all with plenty of laughs, pointed debates, and a sense of the sports world in fast flux.