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The Herd with Colin Cowherd
THE HERD - Hour 2 - More on the Bills hiring Joe Brady as their HC, what teams should look for in a head coach, Nick Wright
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Colin Cowherd
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Tony Robbins
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Colin Cowherd
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Nick Wright
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Colin Cowherd
Each week we break down what's happening with your money, the most important issues to focus on, and the small moves that make a big difference. Kick off the year with confidence. Listen to how to Money on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Thanks for listening to the Herd podcast. Be sure to catch us live every weekday on Fox Sports Radio and noon to 3 Eastern, 9am to noon Pacific. Find your local station for the herd@foxsportsradio.com or stream us live every day on the iHeartRadio app by searching Fox Sports Radio or FSR.
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Tony Robbins
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Colin Cowherd
You're listening to FOX Sports Radio. Welcome in. It is hour two, Nick, right around the corner. We have a lot to talk about today. The Buffalo Bills have officially hired their offensive coordinator, Joe Brady. He's a young guy. He'd interviewed for a couple of jobs. I, you know, we, I talked about this to start last hour. There are certain hires in the NFL that are absolutely obvious. When the Broncos went from Nat hacked it to Sean Payton, you knew. I knew that was going to be an upgrade. When the Chargers went Brandon Staley to Jim Harbaugh, you knew and I knew that was an absolute upgrade. You know, sometimes when you've got a Young Hotshot Coach McVeigh, Mike McDonald, D', Amico, Ryan, Ben Johnson, it's very, very promising, right? You, Ben Johnson had been the hot coordinator for years. Matt Eber floofs was struggling. The league had pivoted to an offensive league. But my takeaway on this hire is whenever you hire, like for instance, Kevin Stefanski and Cleveland got fired. But it was, it did feel like they, they kind of Stefanski came in, Ivy League graduate. This is going to work better than the previous guys. Freddie Kitchens, Greg Williams. Ask yourself this, is Joe Brady a better coach than Sean McDermott? A, I don't know and B, I don't think so. That's not to say it's not going to work, but the Steelers hired Mike McCarthy. Why? Mike is a Pittsburgh guy and it makes him comfortable. Joe Brady is hired because he makes them comfortable and he's worked with Josh Allen. And I'm not saying it's not going to work. I mean, with Josh Allen, Satan Mahomes, you're going to win some games, right? Like, it's just you're going to win some games if the coaching is competent. But the golden rule is most of the time, when you see Vrabel replacing Gerard, Mayo, Peyton, Nat Hackett, you can see the obvious stuff that's going to work. And then you get this really hot coordinator that everybody Mike McDonald wants. Jesse Minter qualifies as that this cycle. Jesse Minter, like Ben Johnson's been the hottest young coach on the market for two or three years. My guess is Jesse mentor Baltimore is going to win a lot of games. Ben Johnson, Chicago, we all felt like major upgrade. So even if you haven't been a head coach, are you the hot coach on the cycle? And my take here is I don't know he's a better coach than Sean McDermott. Maybe he is, I don't know. Nick Wright, I know he's got a strong opinion. Host of First Things first is joining us live. Yeah, it's, I mean I, I, it's one of those, I don't get it. I mean what do you feel?
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Nick Wright
So I don't, I don't get it at all in the context of that press conference last week with Pegula and here's why. Two points were made by the bill's owner, seemingly unrelated to each other but totally related to this specific hire point one, the team. I wasn't planning on firing Sean McDermott but when I saw the utter devastation in the locker room, I felt like the team needed a fresh voice like that. They just too many devastating losses.
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Colin Cowherd
Right.
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Nick Wright
And you can argue with that logic or not, but that's what he said. The reasoning for it was so to me that screams you're bringing in someone from the outside, someone who is not scarred from the devastating losses, that has not had a hand in the devastating losses. So that's the first point that to me makes this odd. The other seemingly unrelated point is oddly about Keon Coleman. When the owner of the team jumps in, he's like let me be very clear. Keon, who's still on the roster was not our GM's pick. He was the coaching staff's pick. And putting being like those dope screwed that up. Who on the coaching staff, Colin, do you think would have the loudest say on which wide receiver to pick? The defensive minded head coach or the offensive coordinator? It's Joe Brady. So I the one like drive by in the press conference was on Keon Coleman where they laid it at the feet of the coaching staff which I think means Joe Brady, even though they were trying to put it on McDermott. But why would McDermott have a super strong opinion about which receiver to take? He'd be the coordinator. And the other one was the team just needed a deep cleansing bath after a half decade of playoff defeats. But Then they bring in the same guy. So again, that doesn't mean he won't be a good head coach. But it is weird and it does make me feel like the Bills are not the best run operation and maybe McDermott was covering up more than we thought.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah, well, you know I'm happy that Sam Darnold made the super bowl and that he played his best game as a pro, probably in the biggest spot.
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Nick Wright
I happy for you buddy. I'm happy for you. You are the only one. No one can say no one saw this coming. No one believed in him. We all have to say no one saw this coming except for Cowherd. No one believed in him except for Kyle. Like you're the one guy. So congrats. But go ahead.
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Colin Cowherd
I will say this, that I never knew if Sam was good enough to win a Super Bowl. I always argued he's way too good not to win games. Like I'm not. I'm not saying, you know, I mean it's funny in that quarterback draft class, Lamar Allen, Baker, Darnold and I said this what we learned this year. Nick, hire the best or hottest young coach on the coaching market. Vrabel, Peyton, Mike McDonald, McVeigh. Either do that, that'll get you that that helps win your division when game. Secondly, if you have a star quarterback, it's got to be team friendly. Darnold has been last two years a star team friendly. Stafford pretty team friendly. And so everybody thinks this is sort of a one off. And my take is Joe Brady and Josh Allen at 56 million. Lamar Jackson wants a new contract. Could I not argue that this Darnold thing is not a one off? Is that if you look at their roster full of kids, they don't pay. Sam Darnold is going to make more Super Bowls going forward than Lamar and.
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Nick Wright
Josh Allen more going forward is very interesting. Well, he's already the only one to make one. And it is. Listen, there have been three quarterback classes ever Colin where you had at least three quarterbacks from those classes win 50 or more games. 83 with Elway, Marino, Jim Kelly. That quarterback class made 10 Super Bowls.
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Colin Cowherd
Wow.
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Nick Wright
04 with Eli Rivers and Big Ben. That quarterback class made five Super Bowls. Rivers obviously didn't. And 2018 where four guys have won 50 plus games. Baker, Josh, Lamar and Sam. And Sam is now the only one to make the Super Bowl. And going into the year, Colin I picked it ended up being dead wrong Baker to be the one to make the super bowl based on a lot of the same logic. He is going to give you franchise level quarterback play at a. At a good but not overwhelming salary and you're going to be able to have all this talent. We know the cleanest path to the super bowl over the last 20 years is the one the Patriots are riding right now. Get a draft a quarterback. Get him up to franchise quarterback level while on the rookie contract.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah.
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Nick Wright
After that it gets tricky.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah.
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Nick Wright
And it does look like that the second best path might be get a guy who had been cast aside. Get him back up to a level or a level he's never been. Pay him more than a rookie. But not what the top guys make. I mean there it's a short list of guys who were making franchise quarterback salaries and made Super Bowls much less multiple. Mahomes obviously did it a number of times. Stafford, his first year in Los Angeles did it. I think Brady one of his years in New England. But it's not a lot of instances when Burrow made it, he wasn't making any money. It asks a lot of the quarterback. And I do wonder what this means for Josh and Lamar especially because I think Lamar is going to try and he deserves it to become the highest paid player in league history this off season. I think that's really tough.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah. I said the one thing we know to be true is coaches in these big games, especially when there's time off before the big game, they love to try to motivate their players. When Miami played the national championship against Indiana and I mean I said on the air Miami has heard now for over a week you have no chance to beat Indiana. I said they're going to play with their hair on fire. They got more NFL players. They're going to bloody Indiana's lip. It's going to be a good game. The first quarter they literally bloodied the lip of Mendoza. They were late hitting. You could tell their whole thing was you don't think we belong here. So Brady's run the dynasty started as a 14 point dog to a much more popular team that was more fun to watch. Greatest show on turf. I said this yesterday. New England's a five point dog. Everybody thinks Seattle's gonna crush him. I think New England and Vrabel, he is gonna sell them on this for two weeks. Is that everybody wanted McVeigh first, Seattle second and nobody cared about the AFC. I think the super bowl is a field goal Super Bowl. I think it's going to be incredibly well coached. I think it's go either way. I'm in the minority. Where are you on it.
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Nick Wright
Well, listen, I agree with you that I think New England obviously can win. And I I feel like Vrabel would have had more legitimate, you know, everybody, nobody's picking us ammunition had they been playing the Rams, even if the point spread was a half point smaller because there would have been a general sentiment of, oh, we know Stafford and McVay can do it. I think it's I think what's going to be tough to sell the Pats players on nobody believes in us is even though it has not played out this postseason, most people believe the Patriots have the better quarterback in the game. And the people who don't pick Seattle are going to say, as great as he was in the NFC Championship game, I don't know if I trust Sam Darnold. That's not necessarily how I feel about it, but I just think it's going to be hard to sell the true nobody believes in a story for the Pats. What I find so interesting and why the Pats are scary is they have gotten to this game and their quarterback hasn't played well once this postseason. And so I am I get a little annoyed when some of the Pats apologists, fans, co hosts of First Things First, Kevin Wilds not naming names. You know, talk about man, look at these great defenses we've had to go through. That is impressive. Beating the Chargers, the Texans and the Broncos.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah.
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Nick Wright
But those great defenses have looked like great defenses to the tune of Drake May putting up identical numbers en route to the playoffs as Trent Dilford did en route to his Super Bowl. So like that part of it. But I know how good Drake May is. I know that he can pop off for a huge game my 12 days out gut feeling on this game is if the Pat's O line holds up, I think they win. If the Pat O line has the issues it has had in every round of the playoffs, I think Seattle wins and maybe it could get. I don't want to say it could get ugly, but we've seen Drake maybe loose with the ball. I know Will Campbell didn't allow a sack this past week. He has struggled every game since coming back from injury. I think that Seattle D line has been their not so secret weapon all year and that to me is the matchup that'll decide it. But I also do like for the Pat side of it that Vrabel has been in Super Bowls but hasn't coached in them. Had The Rams won, McVay and Stafford have been there. They know the rhythm. They know all of it. Mike McDonald is a super bowl rookie as well. So there's not the edge there. So I think that helps the Pats more so than if the Rams had won.
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Colin Cowherd
So I'm going to lay this out because I think we're both. I am. I have always said I prefer analytics over analytics, but I do buy that in baseball, for instance, strikeouts don't matter, just don't hit ground balls. I do believe that over the course of a regular season, three point shots are better than two. Although when you get to the playoffs, I think it becomes get a basket, get a stop more than the regular season. And in the NFL, I'm a go for it guy. So I'm just going to lay this out. We like Sean McVay more than Sean Payton. Not me personally, but the market. Peyton's.
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Nick Wright
I do. Yeah.
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Colin Cowherd
I'm one of them.
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Nick Wright
Yeah.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah. Okay. So if Bo Nix would have been playing, I have no problem going for it. The Jarrett Stidham factor is why I don't like it. Nor do I like him rolling out. But just think about this. It's at home you have a top two offensive line. You're not dealing with crowd O line. And to be honest with you, Sean Payton's one of the best play callers in the game. You have great confidence. I didn't like it because of the play call putting it in a backup quarterback to make an athletic play. Bo Nix doesn't get it. I'm much better with it. You're at home with a dominant O line. Here's what's interesting. McVeigh as a fourth and four on the loudest road stadium in the league against a better defense with a quarterback who's arguably the least athletic in the league. So if you don't get it off the snap, there is no second play. There's no Caleb Williams here. Whatever's dialed up is the play you get. And everybody universally is. I love what McVay did on 4th and 4 on the road. Better defense, immobile quarterback. And my take is in both of them. If Bonix is healthy, I was good going for it. But is it possible that the Rams going for it? They'd stopped him on the previous drive. The Rams going for it wasn't as sure a thing as I'm being told it is.
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Nick Wright
Well, so I'll do Rams and then Broncos.
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Colin Cowherd
Okay.
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Nick Wright
I. I would have gone for it in the Rams spot without a doubt. Okay. Because I would have been worried about if I kick the field goal. Is what ended up happening going to happen where Seattle is able to pick up the three first downs, they have to. And I never touch the ball again. And I, you know, they put the ball in the MVP's hands. And to Seattle's credit, on both third down and fourth down, they were not able to throw the ball to Puka, to Devonte, to either of their tight ends, to Kyron Williams. Those passes went to a fifth and a six string receiver because Seattle covered him so well. Credit to them. So I didn't have a problem with McVay going for it there. I think McVay does have some game management issues. He's a great coach. Nobody's perfect. My biggest Sean Payton issue is this. And I don't know that it has been emphasized enough. No matter who your quarterback is, it is Sean Payton's job to know better than I know, better than you know, better than Nance and Romo know what's the forecast for the next hour. And that was not. I understand that the viewer was caught off guard at how bad that storm got, but when you have all week to prepare, when everybody knows the country was going through a very, you know, a winter storm, you have to have factored in. Is it, you know, what is the possibility that come the second half this game's going to be a blizzard and does that make a 10 nothing lead more valuable than otherwise.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah.
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Nick Wright
And so I thought that that was. I thought Peyton and Stidham both made one grievous error. I thought that was it for Peyton and for Stidham that when it's third and four, if you're on the border of field goal range.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah.
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Nick Wright
The difference between a sack and an incompletion is a big deal. Try to avoid the sack, maybe make a mistake when he fumbled the ball trying to turn a sack into an incompletion. A sack and an incompletion are identical things. When you're on your own 20 yard line, you're punting. So like Stidham's gotta know a sack is fine. Throwing the ball away, what, it saves us 8 yards. Who gives a damn? We're punting anyway. So those and those two mistakes, plus a blocked field goal and all of a sudden the Pats are back in the Super Bowl.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah, the we'll end with this. I called him the Pittsburgh Steelers. Most of this year it just feels like the league is pivoted to offense. They still pay the most for defense. They're kind of tone deaf to offense. Everybody in the playoffs, you know, AFC had a 20 year old quarterback. They got a 42 year old quarterback and they hire Mike McCarthy. He is not an awful coach. In fact, my guess is he'll turn the franchise into offensive friendly more than where they're at now. What was your reaction to the hire? It feels like he makes them comfortable. Nobody loves Pittsburgh more than Pittsburgh and he makes them comfortable. Is that fair?
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Nick Wright
Yeah, I think it's fair. Listen, this is not the hire I would have made. I would have gone young, offensive minded, big swing. Whether it's the skill house kid and I might be mispronouncing his name, the kid from the Rams who's interviewing, wait a couple of weeks for Clint Kubiak and say, hey, where the Pittsburgh Steelers. You have a long leash here. It's okay if we take a giant step back next year and then draft a quarterback and then develop them. That's the path I would have taken. However, while I'm saying that I understand the defense, people that like the hire be like. So hold on, let me get this clear. The reason you don't like the hire is because you think with McCarthy or we'll win nine or 10 games and without him we would have won three or four and you think that's better. And my answer to that is yeah, basically like, yes, I think that the Steelers bottoming out briefly to then come up would be best for them long term. But we have four coaches. Colin in John Harbaugh, Mike Tomlin, Sean Payton, Mike McCarthy, who all win between 61 and 63% of their games, who all have 10, 11 or 12 playoff wins except for Tomlin, who I think has eight. Who all coached hall of Fame quarterbacks and have won Super Bowl. Harbaugh's considered the was the hottest coach on the market. Sean Payton's a genius. Tomlin, everyone thinks he'll get any job if he wants to take one. And then McCarthy's considered a bit of a bozo. So I just think maybe he has bad PR because he has the similar resumes of these other guys. And we're like, yeah, but he had Aaron Rodgers and it's like, yeah, and Sean Payton had Drew Brees and Harbaugh had Lamar Jackson and Tomlin had Big Ben and we don't hold that against them. All that said, I wouldn't have hired him. I'd have hired Clint Kubiak or somebody young to take, roll the dice. But I don't think it's a disaster.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah, I think it's really funny and it's true. If you look at the resume with, you know, the Sean Payton's And John Harbaugh, somebody posted it on the Internet. It's the same thing. One of them's got a way better image. And that's just the reality sometimes. If Mike McCarthy, because he has coached the packers and the Cowboys, we've often had huge viewership numbers for his losses. Right. When the packers lose, it's the number one rated game. When the Cowboys, and I think a lot of it is he is. It's like coaching Duke basketball or Notre Dame football. You, whether you're good or not, it's embellished to some degree because your games are so notable. It's like Aaron Boone for the Yankees is a bum. It's like if he was coaching in Kansas City, you wouldn't remember. You know, you'd be happy with the results. Wow.
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Nick Wright
Well, listen, drive by on the Royals who by the way have won a World Series far more recently than the Yankees. But that's neither here nor there. Just very quickly, I just add to that. I also think when McCarthy was losing playoff games with Rogers, the only loud national media voice that was like Aaron Rodgers, maybe he isn't the greatest quarterback ever to live was you and everyone else. Just put it all at McCarthy's feet. By the time Matt LaFleur was losing playoff games with Rogers, the bloom was off the rose a bit. And some of those losses went at Rodgers feet and LaFleur's, you know, not so much.
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Colin Cowherd
Right.
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Nick Wright
And so I do think that some of those really tough playoff losses he suffered early, most of us, myself included, were like, well, it's obviously not Aaron Rodgers fault. Look at how talented he is. And so it stuck to him in a way it wouldn't have to other coaches. That's kind of the last point on that.
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Colin Cowherd
Apologize for the Royals shot. That was unnecessary.
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Nick Wright
I mean, I don't know, making the two World Series back to back years, winning one of them. The Yankees haven't been to one since I think since it was W President first year of Obama. It's been quite some time. I mean the Royals, pretty good franchise when you look at it. Talk to you later.
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Colin Cowherd
Collins, Nick Wright. Yeah, there is, there is something, you know, when I hear certain people getting criticized like you know, and I throw Aaron Boone out there. It's like, you know, when you, when you manage the Yankees, you know, people watch the Yankees. I mean a great example is the Dodger skipper. You know, Dave Roberts has now won back to back World Series and literally pulled every lever brilliantly in a game seven. But when you're the Dodgers manager and you have that payroll. You know, just we watch the games. I mean, think about this. McCarthy has coached the packers, the Cowboys and now the Steelers. There's an argument they're the three most iconic brands in the sport. So every bad clock management moment we watched, I mean, how many Jags games did you watch? It Was Liam Cohen perfect on the clock this year? Probably not. You didn't watch the games, right. So it is very true. Mike McCarthy's resume looks a lot like Tomlin's. It looks a lot like John Harbaugh's. But we view it differently. And that's, you know, a little bit the way the world works. It's the Herd. Be sure to catch live editions of the Herd, weekdays at noon Eastern, 9am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, FS1 and the iHeartRadio app. Hey, it's Ben, host of the Fifth Hour with Ben Maller. Would mean a lot to have you join us on our weekly auditory journey. You're asking, what in God's name is the fifth Hour? I'll tell you. It's a spin off of the Ben Mather Show, a cult hit overnights on fsr. Why should you listen?
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Tony Robbins
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Colin Cowherd
We chat with captains of industry in media, sports and more every week. Explore some amazing facts about human nature and more. Listen to the fifth hour with Ben Mather on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast or wherever you get your podcast. I'm Colin Coward from the Herd. Whether you're a seasoned small business owner or thinking about getting started, you'll definitely want to check out season four of Mind the Business small business success stories from iHeartMedia's Ruby Studio and Inuit QuickBooks. Mind the Business is part entertainment, part instruction manual, part inspiration. Each episode features practical tips and success stories that will resonate with entrepreneurs in any industry. In their latest season, hosts Austin Hankwitz and Janice Torres are covering topics on the forefront of running a small business. They're talking to self starters about everything from how AI helps them work smarter to weathering market uncertainties and enjoying the benefits of being your own boss and using Inuit QuickBooks to help you get more done in less time. You won't want to miss it. Listen to Mind the Business Small Business success Stories on the iHeart app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Tony Robbins
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Nick Wright
New year, new goals, and in this.
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Colin Cowherd
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Nick Wright
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Nick Wright
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Colin Cowherd
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JMac
This is the Herdline news. All right, let's start with the best quarterback in the NFL this season, Matthew Stafford. Colin. It was a tough ending for the Rams quarterback as they fell just short against the Seahawks. He led the league in passing yards and touchdowns. I mean, I think smart people think he's going to be the mvp, slightly over Drake May. However, there's, of course, chatter. Is Stafford going to retire? He's old. He said he's still taking time to consider it. Here is the sound.
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Nick Wright
There'll be a lot that goes into it. You know, it's, you know, a physical.
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Colin Cowherd
Mental and emotional decision, a personal and.
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Nick Wright
A, you know, a family decision as well. So when I'm ready to figure that.
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Colin Cowherd
Out, I'll be ready to figure that out.
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Nick Wright
That that moment isn't right now. I have so much more time, I feel like to reflect on just the people and the season that we just had. I want to appreciate that and give it the time that it deserves before.
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Colin Cowherd
I start thinking personally about what's next.
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Nick Wright
For me and my family.
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Colin Cowherd
I think this is one of the most fascinating parts of next year. So Stafford gave the Rams a team friendly deal. It was very team friendly. And then he gets the mvp. Okay, they're not getting that deal. And by the way, it's a bad quarterback space. Now there's those speculating they're going to go after C.J. stroud with Houston. But is Houston going to give up CJ Stroud in a bad quarterback class? Yeah. So my take is they rolled the dice. Stafford bet on himself. Remember Joe Flacco did that, won a Super bowl and got rich. So you know, Stafford's like, okay, I'll take a team friendly deal. And he went 52 touchdown, nine picks. So my take is Stafford will come back, but he's going to want more money. And they also have a Devonte Adams issue. Even if they let him go. It's a 15 million dollar cap hit with Devonte Adams. So one of the great gifts of this Rams team is they have a star quarterback who makes a lot of money. Not Josh Allen, a lot of money. But they've drafted so well they've been able to maneuver around the cap and get a Nate Landman and you know, go and pick some pieces with Devonte Adams. Well now Stafford is going to sign a deal if he stays and he's going to get paid really, really good money. So they're still about a year away from having to pay all these young defensive guys. But they, that's why my take is they're not going to give up a lot of picks and go get Ty Simpson. They've got to go draft like they have to get a right tackle. They'll save money on Haven't Stein. They'll probably move off one of their older tight ends. They'll probably move off of Devonte Adams. They probably have to move off either a safety or a corner. It's a fascinating year because Matt Stafford, better than himself, he's not taken another Super Ram team friendly deal. I can't believe he would do that.
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JMac
Yeah, I think he's definitely coming back. I would get, I would assume like you that they're probably Restructure his deal. Yeah, I think Devonte is coming back. However, you know, you start your off season work. I'm not the Super Bowl's name, whatever. I'm more into these off season moves. Colin, I got four names for you who are contract extension eligible on the Rams. They're four starters. Kobe Turner, defensive end, he's good. Byron Young, outside linebacker. Edge rusher, he's good. Steve Avila, left guard, he's good. And then the big one, Puka Nakua is eligible for an extension. I don't know if all four of those guys are back. I would say three for sure. You can't lose Puka.
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Colin Cowherd
I, I, I feel Puna Ford has been so good that they move off Kobe Turner because they've got verse. They have so much talent in the defensive front. Do I could see them moving off Young or Turner. Not that they're not great. They'll have a big market. So I could because Puna Ford's been great. And Jared Verse and the frisk from Florida State, I mean they've all been, they've drafted so well up front. I could see movement there. I think they're going to keep that offensive guard. He's outstanding. Yeah, they drafted him high. He is delivered for them. Puka, they're obviously they would give an extension to.
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JMac
Well, our buddy Daniel Jeremiah did his mock draft and he had Makai Lemon, your guy from usc, going to the Rams in the teens. They got two first round picks. Rams are sitting pretty. Colin, I'm just telling you, they're off season. Like there's some teams that are messy. Rams look really good. They just have to figure out who these guys to bring back. If they get Makai Lemon plus Devonte and Puka with Kyron and Blake Corum, I mean, who's got a better offense than that? I mean, that's ridiculous. I think Stafford is coming back. I think Graham's. Would you agree super bowl favorites going into next season?
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Colin Cowherd
Short list, two or three teams. Yeah. Yeah.
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JMac
All right, let's move on to the next story. And that's the Denver Broncos. Tough ending with a loss at home to the Patriots. But interestingly, Russell Wilson. Remember that dead money that comes off the books this off season? And left tackle Garrett Bowles expects Denver to be a popular destination in free agency.
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Tony Robbins
People want to come to Denver. I mean, I'll be shocked to see how many free agencies want to come here. We got a young team, we got a quarterback, we got the best online football. I don't care what anyone says. We do that's just reality.
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Colin Cowherd
He's great, great player. I saw him once in an airport in Salt Lake City. He looks like a left tackle, large individual. Let me tell you something. It's like the man upstairs does not make a lot of Garrett Bowles. That is an offensive tackle. No, I think Denver has always been a city that, I mean, Peyton Manning played there and then stayed there. Like, there's a lot of pro athletes that love living in Colorado and Denver and I think they're going to be good for a long time. Weren't you. I think Bo Nix proved even to you and the critics, Bo Nicks prove he's pretty darn good.
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JMac
Me, I mean, I, I, Bo Nix is fine, but I think you're the one who was trying to sell me on Boulder being this, you know, cosmopolitan town. It's like basically the Paris or the Midwest or something is. I've never been, I've never been to downtown Denver, Colorado.
- [36:39]
Colin Cowherd
Beautiful state, lot to do, very recreational.
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JMac
So I'm just digging into their off season. They're in really good shape. I mean, Chiefs fans, they're up against it this offseason. But Denver Bowles is onto something. They're going to be a destination. I, I don't know if you're with me, but I feel like offensive skill position, running back, tight end, receiver. They could use a bump up. They don't have a, like a, like Cortland Sutton. You like him, but he's not elite. He's not like a top five, top seven wide receiver.
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Colin Cowherd
He's a Pro Bowler.
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JMac
Shador Sanders is a pro Bowler. Come on, bro. Like the running game's fine. I feel like they're one offensive piece away and I believe in Peyton. They're gonna be good next year. Final story. Colin. This is spicy and I'm a little salty. Those two go together. Brian Dabel is reportedly going to take the Tennessee Titans OC job.
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Colin Cowherd
Wow.
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JMac
If he does not get the Raiders head coaching job. Now this you earlier. I think this was yesterday. You said the Titans are your pick to be. Keep an eye on them. If they get Daboul and Salah.
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Colin Cowherd
Oh.
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JMac
Coaches.
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Colin Cowherd
I will choose them as the New York Giants 1 Tennessee 2. As the double your win total teams.
- [37:46]
JMac
Absolutely.
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Colin Cowherd
If this. That would be a home run.
- [37:49]
JMac
You beat me to it, man. I like Tennessee this year. I was a year early. But you are going to be right with Salah and Dabel. I mean, listen, people are way down on Cam Ward. By the way. Cam Ward could have been the Pro bowl guy over Shadour Sanders. He just doesn't have a big Instagram following. Cam Ward had a fine rookie season. Not amazing.
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Colin Cowherd
He's fine.
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JMac
He listen man, this day bowl higher would be huge. Colin that that division all of a sudden is kind of good. Houston made the playoffs. Jacksonville made the playoffs. The Colts were at one point I.
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Colin Cowherd
Think just ask yourself this Sam Darnold since he left the jets, doesn't that make you understand that maybe it's the Jets? Well, Robert Sala is with the Jets. He is going to Buffalo and if they win a chance to be tied for first, they fire him. He was obviously the best coach on the staff and they circled the drainage. I don't think people and then he goes to San Francisco and I think both of us agreed what he did with the Niners defense is hard to explain. No Bosa, no Fred Warner. They moved off Huff on Greenlaw, a bunch of kids and were until the end of the year when they just fell apart. Physically were outstanding. Beat Philadelphia. I think the sale of hire is the one hire that people have. Maybe it's because Harbaugh is getting so much attention and the Bill's job and the Ravens job gets so much attention. I think Tennessee, they got their guy big time.
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JMac
Just to clear something up. Okay. And it's not just you. A lot of national guys have been taking shots. Well, Darnold was with the Jets. He had no chance. I mean, come on, I'm just going to remind people he threw 35 touchdowns for the Vikings last year. Okay. He had 4,000 yards passing and the Vikings, who went 14 3, said Sammy, thank you. Enjoy wherever you want to go. So it's not like just the jets screwed up on Sam Darnold. The Vikings had a guy and just said we're good.
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Colin Cowherd
All right, if that's how you feel. J. Mac with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by the Herd lie New Be sure to catch live editions of the Herd, weekdays at noon Eastern, 9am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, FS1 and the iHeartRadio app. Colin I'm Colin Coward from the Herd. Whether you're a seasoned small business owner or thinking about getting started, you'll definitely want to check out season four of Mind the Business. Small Business Success Stories for My Heart Media's Ruby Studio and Inuit QuickBooks. Mind the business is part entertainment, part instruction manual, part inspiration. Each episode features practical tips and success stories that will resonate with entrepreneurs in any industry. In their latest season, hosts Austin Henkowitz and Janice Torres are Covering topics on the forefront of running a small business. They're talking to self starters about everything from how AI helps them work smarter to weathering market uncertainties and enjoying the benefits of being your own boss. And using Inuit QuickBooks to help you get more done in less time. You won't want to miss it. Listen to Mind the Business Small business success stories on the Iheart app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Tony Robbins
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Nick Wright
New Year, new goals and in this.
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Colin Cowherd
Economy, a better money plan is more necessary than ever. I am Matt and I'm Joel. We are from the how to Money podcast. And every week we help you to spend smarter, save more, and make sense of what's going on out there.
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Nick Wright
If you want 2026 to be the.
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Colin Cowherd
Year you finally feel in control of your money, we're here to give you the tools and advice to help you make it happen. Listen to how to Money on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What if mind control is real?
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Tony Robbins
If you could control the behavior of.
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Colin Cowherd
Anybody around you, what kind of life would you have? Can you hypnotically persuade someone to buy a car?
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Nick Wright
When you look at your car, you're.
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Tony Robbins
Gonna become overwhelmed with such good feelings.
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Colin Cowherd
Can you hypnotize someone into sleeping with you? I gave her some suggestions to be sexually aroused.
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JMac
Can you get someone to join your culture?
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Colin Cowherd
NLP was used on me to access my subconscious.
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JMac
Nlp, AKA Neuro Linguistic Programming, is a.
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Colin Cowherd
Blend of hypnosis, Linguistics and psychology. Fans say it's like finally getting a user manual for your brain.
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Nick Wright
It's about engineering consciousness.
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Colin Cowherd
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JMac
Saturday we got national powerhouse and second ranked Yukon on Fox. Primetime hoops. Alex Cariban and the Huskies staked their claim as the best in the country as they take on Creighton. Coverage begins Saturday night, 7 Eastern, 4 Pacific only on Fox.
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Colin Cowherd
The yeah, I was just thinking about this, that we're going into a Super bowl and this is obviously a very physical game, but the Seattle Seahawks have their entire roster except one running back and they play physical football. They're healthy. And the New England Patriots, very physical team. They're healthy. Where are all the injured, missing starters? Few years ago there was a, it was like four or five years ago there was such a major pushback mostly by the other network. But you know, it was, oh, these Thursday games are too brutal. And so I literally called two players in the NFL an older player and like a, you know, a 28 year old player and like a 38 year, an older player. And I said, what's the skinny on that? And the player said you get a second bye week and it's the easiest week of practice all year and you're usually playing somebody in your region. So it's a, it's a, you don't really practice is the easiest and you get like extra time. Players, players actually like it. You get the same check and you get a second buy. And so this idea that, oh, it's just too strenuous for a violent league. The super bowl between Seattle, one of the most physical teams in the league. They'll be missing one player of note, Zach Charbonnet. Good running back, but Walker is their go to running back and New England is overwhelmingly healthy as well. In the end, this league has made a lot of changes to enhance safety, much less hitting. Players can adapt and modified helmets, you just don't hit as much as you used to. You, there's a lot of, you can't hit certain players in certain spots. And I'm not saying it's not a, you know, a brutal game of regulated violence, but once again we get to a Super bowl and you know, 98% of the rosters are healthy and ready to go and they're going to get, you know, plenty of time rest before we get the Super Bowl. It's a darn, it's a darn good league. Well run. You know, I was thinking about, you know, when Mike Vrabel got hired. I don't mind older coaches if they think young. Andy Reid is 67. His play design, his play calling, the culture he's built is youthful. He's 67. He feels like he's 47. Right. Like he just is a young coach. Vrabel's 50, but he feels like he's one of these 38 year olds. He's very much on clock management. Very, very good situational football, excellent on analytics. Vrabel is 50. He doesn't, he doesn't coach like an older coach. And then you'll, you'll Belichick 73. It feels 73. Tone deaf to offense. Only wants to coach certain guys and that's not a shot at Bill. He has said that. So, you know, I just look at Vrabel as one of those guys we all know, you know, the Ben Johnson's and the McVeigh and the Shanahan and the young guys. But Vrabel is one of these guys that is aging really well. He is a young 50 and I just the way he relates to players. He's always talking about analytics and situational football. Drew Brees yesterday talked about Braves. I remember Vrabel as a player, man, hard nose, tough love, confrontation. Like he was just one of those players. I see a side to him. I, I don't want to say like a softer side because that's not the way to say it. But it's a side of him that has become such an unbelievable like teacher and, and motivator of men, but in a way that is like so caring and thoughtful but also just so wrapped up in like identity and who we are and what our standard is. And so to me that's the epitome of what they've done by going on the road. Yeah, I mean there's certain things that travel well. So New England was the best road team in the league. Seattle was second. And it's defensive coaches, which is rare. We would expect Mike McDonald, the younger coach. He is going to be generationally great with the players. But you start getting into the 50s, the first numbers five and sometimes like you want to coach certain guys and not our guy. Vrabel is just one of those guys that's going to Age really, really well. He's not about being right, he's about getting it right. He's so good on the clock. He's so good with situational football. He really likes his players. I love that tunnel stuff. I think it's just. I think it's fantastic. And you know, there is that balance of loving your players but holding accountable your players. And there's stories about Vrabel walked in when he got there and he went into the locker room and the showers and there were towels on the floor. And he's like, don't clean them, ring them out and do not clean those towels. You can do both. Be very demanding on your players and be absolutely pro player. I think that's the model. You know, there was a story about Cooper cup this week that he didn't feel loved by the Rams. And you're always going to get some of that. Mike Silver wrote a story where, you know, the Rams, Cooper cup felt the Rams were poisoning the waters with Cooper Cup. They didn't want him to go to other teams. And my takeaway is you got your feelings hurt because in the story, buried in the stories, actually a line where nobody from the Rams called Cooper cup right, and Cooper cup got his feelings hurt. Plus they had drafted Puka Nakua who was taking over the league, so didn't need him. They had Kyron Williams, they had Puka Nukua, they had drafted tight ends. They had, they had all these elements. So. But again, it is a hard balance. There was a story this week that makes it look like the Rams don't care for their players. Well, they've moved off Jalen Ramsey, they've moved off Todd Gurley, they've moved off Vaughn Miller, they've moved off all sorts of players and haven't poisoned the waters. The truth is Cooper Cups got hurt, couldn't stay healthy. They drafted Puka Nakua, he became less valuable. He played nine games, then 12 games and 12 games. His yards went down three or four straight years. He just wasn't as valuable. And athletes are very prideful. They get their feelings hurt. They always think they have more in the tank than they do. So it's the first time I've heard a Ram player and they've moved off. I mean, they've been right. They moved off Todd Gurley two years later. Zippo. You know, when the Rams move off players, it's considered a very tough on players, but it's pro player. So when I read the Cooper cup story, I'm like, that doesn't sound like the Rams. And then I went into the story. In fact, there was a line in the story by Mike Silver. I'm not. I'm not doubting that Cooper cup feels that way, but there's a line quote. After the Rams cut Cup last March, he was stunned. Nobody in the organization, the most powerful people never called to thank him for his time of the franchise. You know, his feelings hurt. I get it. I understand he's bitter. Doesn't sound like the Rams, though. That I know. This is an I heart podcast. Guaranteed human.