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The Herd with Colin Cowherd
THE HERD - Hour 2 - New Blazin' 5 picks for the weekend, more on the FBI investigation, Rachel Nichols
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Colin Cowherd
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I think incidents like the Damon Jones, Chauncey Billup stuff is there are rogue. Tim Donaghy, 1970s Boston College, Henry Hill, Richie the Fixer Perry. You can't, you can't. I mean, this is not analogous, but you know, it's like not everything is a large group of people sometimes they always talk about this insecurity, the lone gunman, the lone wolf who is disconnected. He's a loner. Nobody. FBI can't predict that stuff. CIA can't predict that stuff. That's what you always worry about. Security for government officials, CEOs. It's a rando. It's a lone wolf who's kind of a loner and not connected. So this idea that everything is this big honeycomb, it's this big net all connected. I just don't believe that to be true. I mean, I've been betting on sports forever. I can bet $10 anytime and that's it. But I can also have a glass of champagne celebrating something and that's it because it gives me a headache after one. So I, I, I don't think this is a big net of NBA players. Mob gambling, athletes, bad judgment been around since the Romans and the chariot races. And it's going to continue. Well, I've had a couple of good weeks. I, I've been on a heater. Four and one last week, four and one this week. I do not like taking favorites and I do not like the lines this week at all. Here's our blazing five. That's a hot one. Let's blaze it up. Fire it up. It's Collins Blazin five Bears and Ravens. My favorite pick, Ravens. Lamar is back. Minus six. Lamar returns. Ravens average 33 a game and six and a half yards per play in the four games this year with Lamar Jackson. And it's a must win game. Total urgency for the franchise guys. Lamar has eaten the NFC for lunch. 24 three in his career. Even better at home. The Bears on the road. Defense isn't as good. Caleb Williams, by the way, last three games, completion percentage has dipped to 58.7% and right now the Bears defense can make splash plays and takeaways, but it's allowing 6.2 yards per play against Lamar. Lamar Jackson is going to eat Favorite Pick of The weekend Ravens -6 they win 28 to 21 and it won't feel that close. Browns hit Patriots another big favorite I like New England at home minus seven. Why? Because four straight wins and they're averaging 30 a game during those wins and their defense is great against the run. Meaning Dylan Gabriel will have to pass to beat Drake May and the Patriots in Vrabel. I don't see it happening. Cleveland's defense not as good on the road. In fact the Browns are.03 on the road and they have the 28 ranked rush offense. So Dylan Gabriel is going to have to be really good to keep up and beat Drake May who has been outstanding since week two. I don't think it's happening. I like the Patriots to win by 10, 28 to 17. That's 11 Dolphins at Falcons I like the over 44 and a half points. I've been hot on overs. Falcons are averaging 26 a game and Michael Penck at home has a 103 passer rating. But they also have a terrible red zone defense. So if Miami threatens, Miami should do well and eat in the red zone. But I like Atlanta at home to score points. JMAC talked about this fast track. They're very good. The Dolphins opponents have combined Dolphins and their opponents have combined for 45 plus points in five of the last six games and the over under here is 45 and a half. Their defense allows big big plays in Atlanta at home delivers big plays. The Dolphins defense not good. Atlanta's offense at home very good. Take the over. 44 1/2 points 28, 213024 My bad. Falcons win 49ers at Texans this is a late ad. There are concerns about the Texans health at wide receiver, but this offense for the Texans, it's the number three scoring offense since week four and their defense has been great all season. Sam Darnold in Seattle at home last week really struggled with this defense. So their defense is especially good at clamping down on running backs and their receiving yards. And the Niners right now are living off McCaffrey running and McCaffrey receiving. And the Niners are 3 and 7 after a win the last two seasons. So the Texans defense is great. The Niners are still beat up. I think it's a choppy game. I'm gonna take the Texans 27 to 23. Cowboys and Broncos Finally, Denver minus three at home. I like it. Take the Broncos 30 at home. Won eight straight home games dating back to last year and seven of those eight have been by eight plus points. Bo Nicks won eight straight games at home. He's a better home quarterback. The Cowboys. Listen, they beat the jets, the Giants and the Commanders and Jaden Daniels wasn't healthy. They've been one and three on the road. They're not a great road team and they have an atrocious third down defense that will keep the ball away from Dak. And they have an atrocious big play defense. So the Broncos are going to win. Time of possession. The Broncos, who really need to hit on big plays, have finally found a defense that surrenders big plays. So I like Denver to win and I like Denver to cover the spread. 28:24. Broncos win. So in review, I like favorites this week. I generally don't love them. Favorite bet Ravens minus six at home. Lamar returns. Patriots minus seven at home. Cleveland. Dylan Gabriel will have to throw to win and I don't see it. Take the over. Atlanta at home scores and the Dolphins defense is a mess. Take the over. I'm going to take the Texans at home minus one and a half. It's my least favorite pick. But their defense is great and the Niners have limitations offensively. And Denver at home to win and cover. I think that's a fun game. I think it's a great watch. But Denver, they are really, really seeking the big play and this is the defense that does allow the big play. The Cowboys couldn't tell you the last time I took three. Favorites generally don't like doing that. It's a wonky week for numbers. Now I did not, I did not take the Steelers because the number now is down to three, not three and a half. So the hook was the key. The places I watched, it's down to three. I think it's a really good game and it's funny. Aaron's facing at home, facing the packers again and I and I was thinking about the memories of him in Green Bay. So he won four MVPs. He was not a great playoff quarterback. 11 and 10. Favre was also about 500. So is Jordan Love. So what I always think is interesting about Green Bay, do we remember it more fondly than reality because it was so aesthetically beautiful? I've said this. Dan Marino gets to a Super bowl year two never gets back. But we remember Marino so fondly because it was such a beautiful eye pleasing style. Same with Aaron. Aaron's last 12 years in green Bay. So he wins early in his career and we think it's going to be a decade of dominance. His last 12 seasons after that in Green Bay, he was 7 and 9 in the playoffs and lost multiple times as a favorite. In fact, those nine losses his last 12 years in green Bay and I looked this up this morning, that was the most playoff losses by any team in that stretch, right? So Mahomes has been to five Super Bowls and Manning to four and Brady was collecting rings and those are peers, right? It's just funny in Aaron, he replaces Favre and we're like, oh my God, is he better than Favre? And my bet was, oh absolutely. And they end up both being pretty, to be honest with you, being pretty average in the playoffs despite a well run organization, good offensive lines. But Farve, I mean one thing I'll back Aaron on, Aaron did not have a lot of great defenses in Green Bay. And then he goes to the jets and they fire Sala and that defense is no good. Then he goes to Tomlin in Pittsburgh and that defense is no good. And the one thing Brady always had really good defenses and the one thing Mahomes has now great defenses. So to defend Aaron is that you look at his playoff record and you're like, ah, he wanted a great defense. Do you know the year he had a great defense was the year he won a Super Bowl? Rachel Nichols around the corner. It's the herd. One more herd. The herd streams 24 hours a day, seven days a week, within the iHeartRadio app. Search herd to listen live or on demand whenever you'd like. Hey, it's me, Rob Parker. Check out my weekly MLB podcast, Inside the Parker for 22 minutes of piping.
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Rachel Nichols
Well, there's two kind of categories of this, right? So we know for sure that they're accusing Terry Rozier of being active, right? That he specifically went to go throw his appearance in the game. He walked off the court early. He told people bet the under, and they're accusing him of sitting and counting the money gained from this with his friend. A week later, Shantae Porter has already acknowledged he has pled guilty to being active, to throwing his participation in a game and getting the under bet. And he is awaiting sentencing on that. And then you have guys who it's not really clear, Right. Chauncey Billups is named in both sides of this suit as saying, oh, he told an associate that a bunch of guys, including a guy who matches Damian Lillard's description, will be sitting that night. And that was used to go gamble. And now did he just tell someone because he was telling a friend or did he do it on purpose to get them to say, hey, throw me a little cash, I'll bet the under? Damon Jones, we know, is accused of being active in this situation, telling someone that LeBron James was going to be sitting and then saying, hey, bet for me and then pay me my money. We're talking, you know, about $2,500 apparently for giving that Information according to the federal government. So there's kind of two sides of this. Johnson, Quincy Billup's attorney, has come out very strongly and said he would never do this on purpose. He would never risk his career, his family, you know, his position as a hall of Famer, a coach in this league. You have to assume that his defense is going to be, yeah, I showed up at these poker games. They paid me to be in these poker games, but I didn't know they were rigged. We're just going to have to sort through and find out did they know who knew? And is there a difference between the guys who actively participated and the guys who may have been around people they should not have been around and how much did they know? It kind of, though, for the NBA, doesn't matter that much how these cases shake out because they now have to deal with the fact that they have two active investigations now. They've got, in the Clipper situation, they've got an owner who is being investigated for saying, well, I didn't know this was going on, but we have a sponsor who was paying one of our players $28 million to apparently do nothing. You have a coach now being investigated, you have players being investigated and you have ex players being investigated. That is a lot for one league, Colin. And I agree with you. The NBA has been around for nearly 80 years. The NBA isn't going anywhere. These scandals are not going to take down the league. But it is an issue with if you say crime, right, in general in the neighborhood, crime is going to happen. You're never going to have zero crime, but you can't have too much crime. Right. Otherwise people won't want to come to that neighborhood. And that is what the NBA is having to deal with right now. You have so many different levels of the game, people being accused of malfeasance here. That is a lot.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah. So the NBA did their own investigation on John Tay Porter and Terry Rozier and then the FBI did their investigation. How do they differ?
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Rachel Nichols
Well, look, the NBA doesn't have subpoena power, so I don't blame the NBA at all for that. They can only do so much. They can only get people to talk to them who want to talk to them. They can't put guys up and say, hey, we're going to put you in jail if you don't tell us this. So it is a very different situation. It's why the NBA has been cooperating with the government on these investigations. But again, the optics of it are difficult and it is not the league's fault. But it is the league's problem when they clear a guy and then suddenly now he's facing jail time.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah, the Damon Jones stuff to me is because I, I know, I don't know LeBron per se. I've talked to LeBron for 20 minutes. Always very friendly. I know people in his circle very well. Again, if I've been critical of LeBron, they don't reach out. They understand the game. I always thought he surrounded himself with the smartest guys in the league because I think LeBron's really bright. Good businessman, bright guy. The. Damon Jones was close to LeBron. He was on a Laker team, unpaid part of Darvin Ham staff. And so, you know, I mean, Damon was a well liked guy. He. I think I've talked. I don't know if I've talked to him, but Damon Jones was kind of well liked. LeBron liked him. I'm not sure if he was in his circle, but they hung out, they like each other. There is a story that Damon, they go to Milwaukee and LeBron's banged up and he tells people, hey, I want to eat. Here it is. That one troubles me because it involves the face of the league and the Lakers. If I had to rank these in order, is that. Is it the Chauncey or the Damon one the league is truly frightened about?
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Rachel Nichols
Well, the Damon one is the kind of thing that could spin out and have future repercussions. Right. Because Damon Jones was very close to LeBron. I'm not saying at all that LeBron was involved. Nobody is saying LeBron was involved in this, but he was close to a lot of big names in this league. Damon Jones has knocked around the league for a long time. He was on a lot of different teams. He has close relationships with a lot of guys. He had inside information on a lot of different guys. And he was clearly, according to the federal government, he is alleged to be a very active participant in this, knowing what he was doing. So if that is indeed the case, and he did it with several other guys, we had Cash Patel, the director of the FBI, go on several television shows yesterday after that press conference and see say more is coming. He said this is just the beginning. So I got to believe him. He knows what the FBI is investigating and that is what the league has to be concerned about.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah, the Chauncey Billups thing is just hard to wrap my brain around. He. I initially thought he was in the poker side of it, which is La Cosa Nostra. I don't know if Laosa Nostra is involved in the NBA part. They are involved heavily in the poker. And for the record, I listened to two podcasts last night, one from somebody who covers the mob for a living, and. And he said there are mob games all over New York tonight. Like, it's just, you know, you know New York better than I do. But, like, that's just the thing he was naming, you know, on Lexington Avenue, there's a. I mean, he was naming the areas, and I'm like, okay, so. And NBA players have played cards forever. It's kind of part of the culture. Do you. Is it. Do you think the league was caught off guard with Chauncey Billups? I mean, players have done this in all sports. The Chauncey one for me is, whoa, a coach. How is that viewed? Are you shocked by that?
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Rachel Nichols
I was very shocked by it because Chauncey is extremely well liked around the league. He's known as a mentor, a leader, a good guy. You know, the reason why he is held in such high esteem isn't because he was such an elite. He's not the leader in the NBA in points ever. He's not like LeBron James. He's known as being one of the best leader of men in the NBA. And here he is being caught up in a scandal that at the very least shows incredible bad judgment, and according to the FBI, shows a lot worse than that. And when you talk about sort of the back and forth and why these two cases are connected, it's because a lot of the same guys are involved in the illegal poker game, as in the betting. And that is where the crossover is and why Chauncey is also named in the illegal betting part, but not indicted in that part because he was with those guys, but not necessarily, according to the FBI, purposely giving information to them. He just did give information to whether he knew or not it was being used to bet. But this is going to continue to be a problem, and the NBA has to hope that what happens is that guys understand they could go to jail for this. And once that realization sets in, the hope is that players, coaches, anyone involved with the league just stops messing with this. But the NBA is in a little bit of a tough position, as are every sports league. Now, the way legalized betting is in these betting companies, the NBA was estimated to make around $170 million directly from betting companies. It has two official relationships and other relationships with 15 other betting companies. Then you talk about fan engagement, because betting as we know, the whole point is it makes people watch games they might not otherwise watch. Right. You know, this is a lopsided game, but I got to bet on it. I mean, it's fantasy football, too. Why do we watch so many football games we may not otherwise care about? Right. So the engagement factor is also huge. And that's estimated to be 2 or $300 million extra a year pouring into the league fan engagement on top of the $170 million. So it really has become an integral part of the league's income system. So it's very hard to just walk away from all of this. But it's also. But it's also hard to think about the fact that you have these games going on. And right underneath on the ticker is, hey, bet the third quarter. Bet what's going on here? Yesterday we had several television networks across who covering this, people discussing it, just like you and I. And underneath on the ticker is, go bet. Right. Sports networks who have their own sports book. ESPN has its own sports book. And while they were discussing this, on the morning show, it said, bet ESPN underneath. So this is so ingrained and so available in a way it wasn't 20 years ago. You're talking about Michael Jordan going to Atlantic City. He had to go to Atlantic City. You don't have to do that anymore. And every single person involved with the NBA just has to send a text, and it's a much different game.
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Colin Cowherd
Well, you know, David Stern was really anti gambling. Adam Silver was the opposite. Stern eventually came around and realized the value. And I. I am a believer in legalized sports gambling because it's a regulated market. The Terry Rozier stuff. Rachel, I'm sure you know this. They knew instantly. I mean, they knew within hours something was up.
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Rachel Nichols
I cut off betting for the rest of the night.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah. And. And I do worry about. Brian Windhorse said the league knew as a fake and injury took him out of games. Was the NBA strong enough? Barkley talked about that last night. So I. I am for. I mean, I worked in Vegas like, I. I am for regulation. It. Remember, it was Vegas that told the NBA about Tim Donaghy. Yeah, you're right. They don't want. The margins are thin. They don't want any of this. I'll just throw this at you. When you hear tip of the iceberg, I tend to think it's more rogue stuff. I think most players get. Let me ask you this. When you go to cover the NBA, do you see signage? Do you see. I mean, obviously these players are told you can't talk about injuries to non Locker room people like, do you have a sense when you go cover games that it's understood the line not be crossed with gambling and non insiders.
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Rachel Nichols
I think it's understood that you don't do what Damon Jones did, which was text someone who is a known gambling associate and say hey, bet the under because or bet against the Lakers because LeBron isn't playing tonight. I think players know that is against the rule rules. However, there is a gray area and this is hard to regulate and it's hard to even manage. If you're a player, you tell a buddy, I'm frustrated, I'm not playing tonight. That information is not out there yet. That buddy doesn't work for the NBA. He can go place a bet or tell other people to place a bet based on that information. And that's always going to happen. And it becomes even more complicated once we get into college basketball and college sports. Because the NCAA just a couple days ago said that its players can now bet on professional sports in the sport that they play. So what if you are a player who's a junior or senior who has a buddy in the NBA who was on your team, who was a teammate just a year or two ago who just in a casual conversation says I can't play tonight. No one knows that yet, but I can't play her. Ugh, my knee's bothering me now. That kid in college can go bet on that Inside information. This just gets very dangerous and sticky and it is difficult when you say is it the tip of the ice but. Or is it an ice cube as you said earlier in the show, which I think is a great analogy, I think it might be an iceberg only because there are so many different places this could crop up all across the NBA, all across other sports, all across college sports now. So I think we're going to see a lot of different places for this to happen. And you just have to hope again as players see, you can go to jail, your entire life can be ruined over this. It is not worth it. And you get into the addiction side of it too, which is overrides some people's judgment.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah, it did. By the way. An NBA player is liable and they have been told this. If they talk about an injury to a non team employee, they are liable. They could say it to a friend. You can't. So I mean every NBA player in every room they walk into is the biggest star, right? And people come up to them and they just. I mean you almost have to hide before a game and stay off Your farming. Really, you really do as a, as a player. So I do have some sympathy there. Rachel Nichols. Great stuff, as always on an ongoing investigation. And we'll just, we'll keep everybody updated. Thank you, Rach.
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Rachel Nichols
Thank you.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah, it's. It's just not. Yeah. If you just say. And I thought about this, I was talking to Danny Parkins about this on a pod last night, and he kind of theorized, he said, what if you couldn't bet unders, you could only bet over. You can't bet this guy will score less. This guy. Like, if a guy scores more, it's good for everybody, right? The player, the team, the guy. But you can't bet unders. But I don't believe you should eliminate prop bets because then it goes to the unregulated market and it's not supervised. I want it supervised. So, you know, answers aren't always easy with this stuff. J. Mac with the news. No, no, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the Herd line news. All right, Con, let's start with Patrick Mahomes. You one of your favorite guys around the league, really cooking this year. Obviously, he is a three time super bowl mvp, but do you remember he started his college career at Texas Tech under a guy named Cliff Kingsbury? Well, the two of them will have a reunion on Monday Night Football when the Chiefs host the Commanders. Mahomes talked about how Kingsbury allowed him to play the game his way. He's one of the first people, I would say, that truly believed in me in playing the quarterback position. And so he gave me a ton.
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Rachel Nichols
Of advice of, of, of refining me.
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Colin Cowherd
But letting me still be, just be me and play to my strengths. And so a great coach, a great person that I still stay in touch with, not as much this week, but throughout, throughout my career. And he helped me get to where I'm at today because he didn't put me in a box and tell me I need to play quarterback this way. He let me just go out there and be myself and be the how I play the way that got me there. And I think that's something that's special about him as a coach. You know, very much like Andy Reid, Kingsbury was not a great head coach, college or NFL, great mentor, great play designer, great play caller. We've talked about this before. There is a skill to walk around and not be in a headset. Most NFL coaches, college coaches, the elite ones, are walk around guys. They're not in a headset. So Kingsbury's a really good football coach. So far unproven as a head coach. You, you and I have. I'm pro Kingsbury, just for the record. No, I'm. I'm pro Kingsbury too. He loved Jaden Daniels. When we broke the story last year before, before the Jaden Daniels Drake may draft. A month before the draft I said, washington's taking Jaden Daniels. Kingsbury was the one that went to Adam Peters, the GM and pounded the table and said that guy, we can win a lot of games with that guy. And he wasn't anti anybody else but he, he. Jaden Daniels was Cliff Kingsberry's favorite quarterback in the entire class. More than Caleb, more than Drake, more than Penix. So Kingsbury, that's the quarterback he wanted. And last year you saw the results. Yeah. Just listening to Mahomes talk about Kingsbury, I feel like in that scenario I'm Mahomes and you're Kingsbury. Yeah. Back at Texas Tech, you just tell me, J. Mac, I know you're gonna do some crazy stuff, but you do you play to your strengths and I like that as a coach. I believe Colin Kingsbury will be interviewing for head coaching jobs. Yeah, you know I've. He struggled in discipline. He is a former athlete. Yeah. He didn't love discipline. He didn't necessarily hold players as accountable. We're seeing that with McDaniel in Miami too. Right. Some of these guys, young coaches. Yeah, they just are not the old school coaches can bark and use volume and are pretty punitive to players. There's no non Andy. Randy Reid is. Is. Can be rough. Yeah. So it's. I think some of these young coaches struggle with that. Some certainly. Let's move on to the Baltimore Ravens. The biggest injury report everybody's waiting for today. You know, we'll see what happens with Lamar Jackson. But Kyle Hamilton, who has missed a lot of time this season, he's getting back in the fold, which is great news. Hamilton knows they need to approach the season one game at a time to climb out of this one in five hole. You can't ignore the past, but you know, we're forward thinking at this point. Kind of have to be. And every game forces a playoff game. That's how it feels and how it's going to have to be from here on out. Dug ourselves in a deep hole. But in order to get in the dance, we got to really be locked in from here on out. So we're trying to do that. Yeah. Like the Ravens. And we've said this about Lamar Jackson. He. Unless you see him regularly, he Is a lot to face without seeing him multiple times. I can remember his rookie year. The Chargers faced him the first time and just didn't know what to do. And then the second time they had a little bit better beat on him. That's why Kansas City has seen him so many times. Spags have seen him so many times. They know what he can do and know what he can't. They know his tells. So this is a rough ask for Chicago. New defensive staff going to Baltimore. This is the one game on the board I feel very strongly. I think Baltimore wins and from the very beginning feels like the team that's in control of this game. You could get Baltimore +110 to make the playoffs plus money. I did. I did take that. I think they're going to the playoffs. My thing to watch, though, in this one's not necessarily Baltimore. Collins, Caleb Williams. So he's had the run game recently and he's been serviceable. What happens if the Ravens are able to take that away and Caleb has to win this with his arm? Do you think he's possible. He's capable of doing that on the road? You know, the Caleb stuff is obvious. He has struggled with accuracy in the last couple starts and last three starts, he's completing under 60%. It is hard in order to win games like that. You have to play bad teams or your defense has to take the ball away. And in both instances, that's what happened. They played Chicago's beaten kind of bad teams and they've taken the ball away. But good teams and great quarterbacks don't give you the ball. So I think this is a tough spot for Chicago. All right, final story is to the NBA last night. Colin, Listen, we call him the free throw merchant for nothing. SGA dropped 55 on the Pacers in a double overtime thriller. They did not cover the spread for what it's worth. Interestingly, though, Colin, it's only two games. SGA has attempted 40 free throws. Now both of their games have gone double overtime. Colin, 40 free throws in the first two games is an NBA record for the free throw merchant. Here's SGA afterward talking about the free throws. It's a good way to, like break the ice on the season, shake the rest off.
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Lungs out, like get my cardio back. So, yeah, it's not ideal. Four extra overtimes in two games, but we'll take it. Two W's and then also understanding, like, the beginning of the season is just as important as the end of the season. The Difference in home court advantage in the playoffs could be one game in, one win. Yeah. I mean, remember, in the playoffs, you do not get the whistle. In the regular season, the NBA lets the guys play and then in the postseason, they clamp down. So SGA is going to get to the free throw line like Karl Malone did and James Harden did. Can't breathe on him. Cannot breathe on SGA when it matters most. Colin. Well, you know, give him room to operate. I don't know why, but they, they feel the need. Like, you know, sga, the free throw merchant. Yeah. It's not gonna stop, folks. It's not our number from our staff. Colin. 36 of his points this season have come from the free throw line. If this continues, it's a bad look. I think the gambling's a bad look for the NBA. This is a bad look when all he does is just shoot 20 free throws a game. Like, stop. Remember the Thunder won last year on average by 13 points a game. Yep. You notice their games this year go closer. Yeah. I mean, so it. You ask a lot of a team to play so many games, so many intense games. They come back offseasons are shorter because everybody's got endorsements and everybody's. They're feeling it. So I don't think OKC repeats. I just think they're really good. But I. But I think we have a, a pattern in the NBA. I mean, two is a trend seven years in a row different. I. And I think. Keep your eye on Minnesota, Denver, Dallas Lakers. No J. Mac with the news. Well, that's the news and thanks for stopping by the herd line news. Well, game one of the World Series tonight, I think it goes six. I'll take the Dodgers. They've been really good in game ones the last couple of seasons. 6, 0. Be sure to catch live editions of the Herd weekdays at noon Eastern, 9am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. FS1 and the iHeartRadio app. Tired of spills and stains on your sofa?
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Think about the challenges of running a business. So the NBA just signed an 11 billion TV deal with NBC. I've liked their early coverage. Amazon and the incumbent is ESPN and abc. That's a very, very good business. Just think about the challenges that Adam Silver right now has either created or is facing. A gambling scandal. All the stars at the top of the league are international and not very dynamic personality wise. And there's no dynasties now because of the multiple aprons. You can't stack great players. Oh, by the way, too many threes. You got four current things that the NBA is facing now. I think it will overcome all of them because a they already got their money. It's up to the networks to make a profit. NBC is not going to profit. NBC is going to lose hundreds of millions of dollars, maybe a billion dollars. ESPN will be fine. They're the incumbent and Amazon prints money. But the truth is it just goes to show you, if you don't have the stomach for business, then just be an employee at a company because it's like Amazon, like Amazon's an amazing company. They are fighting lawsuits, fighting off competitors every day. Most Americans, most people don't have the stomach for business. I mean, the NBA now has a La Cosa Nostra gambling scandal. I mean, it's just ridiculous to have your name linked with an Italian mob. Whether you are or not, just in the same sentence, it's nauseating. If you're Adam Silver. It's an international star driven league. The top five players, the last, you haven't had a domestic MVP for like six, seven years, like since 2018. People are complaining. There's too many threes, the aesthetics aren't good. And you know, no dynasties. Seven years, seven champs. People like dynasties. And let me give you an example. Let me pivot to this. Major League Baseball, they've got a dynasty probably in about a week and a half. The Dodgers ratings are up, attendance is up. So baseball had all these problems years ago the game was too slow. You know, it was, it was paralyzed by, here's your way to play the game. No celebration. And Rob Manfred, to his credit, kept making changes. Bigger bases, man on second regular season, extra innings, no defensive shift, pitch clock. And all the traditionalists push back. They've all worked. I watch more baseball the last two years than I did the previous 15. The game moves much more quickly. So Dave Roberts, you know, on, on the cries and the hues that the sport now is too lopsided and the Dodgers are bad for baseball. Baseball viewership is at an all time high. Baseball players are better than they've ever been. We are going to have more eyeballs watching this World Series than ever because of the country of Canada, the US and Japan and beyond, right? So obviously the Dodgers are not ruining baseball. It's in a great state. And I was just kind of taking a dig at these crazy people that say that what we do, and I think we do it really well, well, we're ruining baseball. So that was my little dig. And, and it was appropriate. And it's funny because the Dodgers aren't ruining baseball. Look at their road attendance. It leads baseball. When the Yankees were stacked, the Yankees led baseball in road attendance. And by the way, when the Yankees went on the road and when the Dodgers go on the road, teams jack their prices up. So they charge you more to go see Ohtani and Derek Jeter and a rod in their prime. So the audience follow the marketplace, not the Internet. People call talk radio pre Internet. You know, they call, they talk radio and they write letters to the editor and they're all angry. Don't listen to that noise. Watch the marketplace. Ratings up, attendance up, prices up, revenue up. Baseball's good. I mean, just think about this. It's just hard to run a big business. Adam Silver's finding it out. Rob Manfred knows Google has faced over a hundred antitrust lawsuits since it was created. I remember talking to Mark Cuban years ago about this. He's like, I've got lawyers on retainer for the most ridiculous things ever. And yeah, yesterday it was funny, Yesterday I go to the gym, hey, I gotta throw weight around, you know what I mean? Just throw, just throw iron around. That's what I do. And in like a two minutes, as I'm adding a member to my membership, in two minutes they had like four fires. It was, somebody's locked out of this room, I can't open my locker. They got a phone call, an alarm went off. And I'm like, I'm in a workout Club for two minutes. The front desk lady is literally putting out fires in the two minutes I'm talking to her. And it's just like, you got to be able to handle crisis. And so the NBA right now, it's got a crisis. Google's got one every day. Every single day. Be an employee. Don't be an entrepreneur if you don't have the stomach for it. Because you could be Mark Cuban or Elon Musk. I was told a year ago, Elon Musk, his business was capsizing. I don't know. It seems like Tesla stock's done okay to me. Seems like he's doing fine enough. What is it this week? All the stocks seem like the big players are up. So I don't know, I just, I look at baseball. They've got a dynasty, they're on fire. The NBA could probably use one now. They got a betting scandal. They'll be fine. I thought one of the interesting things when I had Dave Roberts on, I said, you know, it's fascinating. I'm watching the Mariners have Cal Raleigh and Julio Rodriguez at the top of the order. And for years and years, you would have those guys, the big sticks, batting 3, 4 and 5. And I asked him about, you know, Ohtani, you know, you think with his power he would be like cleanup hitter. But now he's a lead off guy. And he addressed that when I was growing up as you were, same time period, Shohei would be hitting, you know, three or four. But I think that the way that understanding that you want to get your best hitters as many at bats as possible, that's how you win baseball games. That's the way the game has evolved. And I do think that you got to kind of appreciate that. And so I just don't want to be beholden to one lineup. I think our guys have evolved. Yeah, I here's what I know. The Dodgers are not a crisis for baseball. It's a golden ticket. Get one now. They are not a crisis. Nor were shaq and Kobe, K.D. steph and Klay Thompson. There was a sense of unfairness. Sports isn't fair. Serena was just more talented, right? It's like the Russians forever had had basically professionals playing in the Olympics and crushing everybody. If you're looking for fairness, it just doesn't exist. I mean, I tell my kids sometimes I just love her more than him. You got to deal with it. I'm building metal and moxie for my children. Hour three is around the corner. Albert Brear stops by game one of the World Series. Tonight? 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