THE HERD - Hour 2 - New Blazing 5 picks, Urban Meyer joins The Herd

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Podcast Summary: The Herd with Colin Cowherd

Episode: Hour 2 – New Blazing 5 Picks, Urban Meyer Joins the Herd
Date: January 9, 2026
Podcast: The Herd with Colin Cowherd
Host: Colin Cowherd
Guests: Urban Meyer (Former NCAA/NFL Coach & Fox Sports Analyst), Fox Sports Radio Analysts

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Episode Overview

This episode is a lively deep dive into the fast-evolving landscape of college football (especially the SEC’s decline and the rise of other programs), NFL playoff predictions with Colin's "Blazing 5" picks, and expert guest analysis from Urban Meyer. The conversation weaves between the impact of NIL (Name, Image, Likeness) money on college football parity, the practical reality of coaching excellence, and detailed breakdowns of key upcoming NFL and NCAA matchups.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Changing Landscape of College Football (03:00–05:57)

• The SEC's Waning Dominance:

  • Colin and the analysts debate the SEC's shifting power, with Colin likening the conference to "the Mountain West with bigger stadiums" (03:12).

  • They discuss how the injection of Texas oil money (from schools like Texas and Texas A&M) is reshaping recruiting dominance.

  • Indiana's recent resurgence, aided by big-figure donors like Mark Cuban, is highlighted as a sign of changing tides (04:38).

    “If you took Texas and Texas A&M out of the SEC, the Texas oil money, what would this conference be then? They can’t compete getting the top recruits. Oil money, you can compete.” — Colin Cowherd (04:10)

• Boosters, NIL, and Program Futures:

  • Analysts compare "old-school" SEC boosters (car dealers, whiskey distributors) to deep-pocketed tech and oil magnates now backing schools like Texas Tech and Indiana (05:32).
  • Oregon, with robust booster backing, is seen as the best program in college football at present, even above traditional SEC powerhouses (05:12).

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2. Colin’s Blazing 5 Playoff Picks (06:00–11:25)

Colin rolls out his postseason picks, applying his usual stats-driven but gut-influenced reasoning:

• Rams -10.5 vs. Panthers (06:11): Rams’ momentum, high-octane offense, and Panthers’ suspect record against playoff teams.

  • “No team had that many big blowout wins. Number one offense... If they can cut the turnovers down and Stafford hasn’t had a lot of bad games this year, they’re going to win the game. … Rams win it. Rams cover. Final score 33 to 20.” — Colin Cowherd (06:22)

• Bears +1.5 vs. Packers (07:06): Bears’ superior O-line and rushing attack in lousy weather, Packers on a cold streak.

  • “Caleb Williams, five TDs and a pick... The Packers are on a four-game losing streak heading into the playoffs. ... I like the Bears. Take the points to win 27-24.” (07:30)

• Jaguars +1.5 vs. Bills (08:05): Jags as the league’s hottest team, Bills’ suspect defense late in games.

  • “They remind me of that Carolina team with Cam Newton. They just got hot and you’re like, get out of the way. ... I like the Jags to win. J’ville 30–27.” (08:38)

• Eagles -5.5 vs. 49ers (09:03): Eagles’ home field, healthy roster, Niners’ historic struggles against Vic Fangio’s defenses.

  • “They get sevens, not threes. ... Jalen Hurts is comfortable at home; better roster, healthier roster. ... Eagles to cover 28–20.” (09:30)

• Indiana -3.5 vs. Oregon (10:10): Indiana’s efficient, mistake-free play; Oregon’s run defense vulnerabilities.

  • “Did they not commit fewer turnovers than any Power Four team?... I think Indiana wins. I think Indiana covers. Indiana 33, Oregon 28.” (10:48)

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3. College Football Analysis with Urban Meyer (11:45–24:00)

• Facing a Team Twice in College Football:

  • Urban dismisses the "rematch revenge" narrative:

    “I don’t think there’s any bearing, other than comfort and knowing the personnel... This is a new game, new season for these two teams.” — Urban Meyer (11:59)

• Indiana’s Culture and Coaching:

  • Meyer marvels at Indiana’s discipline:

    “You don’t fumble because ... the players are bought into the culture of the program... Every time they’re going through traffic, you see the right hand come right over the ball, all the time. ... I don’t know if I, off the top of my head, can think of a mistake they made.” (12:55, 14:02)

• Miami's Physical Brand and Coaching Impact:

  • Discussing Miami’s rise:

    “The physical teams are separating themselves right now... Teams that control the line of scrimmage, play great defense and are tough as hell — they’re the ones that are winning games. ... Miami is a problem.” — Urban Meyer (14:53)

  • Both agree modern college football is about toughness and trench play, not just flash.

• The SEC's Decline in Defensive Talent:

  • Urban observes the tangible drop:

    “The first thing you thought of [about the SEC] is the defensive front seven. How the heck are we going to block these guys? And now you’re seeing teams get — I mean, Indiana hammering Alabama... whatever’s happened has happened. I wish I had an explanation.” (17:03, 17:46)

• Wild NIL Era and Transfer Portal Frustrations:

  • Both are troubled by the Demon Williams/Washington drama, with Urban calling it:

    “The worst thing I’ve heard in the last 10 years of the game... I don’t know how you heal that, you just turned your back on a locker room. ... There’s got to be some kind of regulation.” (18:56)

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4. Officiating, Playoff Crunch-Time, and "Gray Area" Calls (19:57–24:30)

• Debate Over Critical Pass Interference Calls:

  • Colin: “I would not call a pass interference on Miami in the end zone. ... I don’t think you get that in the final throw” (20:59).
  • Urban: “Oh, it does bother me because if it’s a foul, it’s a foul. ... But it has to be so flagrant that... you make that call” (20:59).

• Colin on Officiating Nuance:

  • “Life is nuanced and gray. It’s not all black and white.” (19:57)
  • Both acknowledge the tension between rule enforcement and letting players decide outcomes in clutch moments.

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5. NFL Playoff Storylines, Contracts, and Trends (43:54–50:44)

• Quarterback Contracts and Team Sustainability:

  • Colin and analysts discuss the cap implications of mega-QB contracts:

    “This is what, Lamar? Remember, he’s not happy with his deal; he wants a new one. He’s got a $74 million cap hit next year. I just, I don’t know if it’s sustainable.” (48:35)

    • “It feels like a new era... I feel like the NFL is going through a bit of a sea change right now with the way teams are built.” — Analyst (49:24)

• Playoff Quarterbacks: Rookie Deals Rule:

  • Teams making noise have QBs on rookie/team-friendly deals, allowing strong rosters to be built elsewhere.
  • Tom Brady’s approach noted:

    “Tom Brady was never the highest paid quarterback.” — Colin Cowherd (49:35)

• Specific Matchup Commentary

  • Rams vs. Panthers: Rams likely to dominate, Panthers’ playoff berth questioned due to negative point differential (45:18).
  • Packers vs. Bears: Tight matchup, hinges on turnovers and basic execution, third meeting this year (46:46).
  • Bills vs. Jaguars: Jags are the hottest team, Bills have the biggest superstar. Coaching and D-line play highlighted (47:06).
  • 49ers vs. Eagles: Niners’ health is the X-factor; Eagles are home and favored.
  • Chargers, Patriots, Steelers, Texans: Additional games are broadly discussed in passing.

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6. NFL Coaching Carousel and Future Trends (32:28–37:53)

• Coordinators Rising:

  • Jags DC Anthony Campanile highlighted as a potential head coach if defense excels against Bills (33:04).
  • Lions want Mike McDaniel for their OC role, seen as a coup if it happens (34:40).
  • Analyst: “If they land McDaniel, that’s the best coordinator hire because that would fit Jared Goff, Gibbs & Co.” (34:40)
  • Brian Dabel curiously absent from coaching rumors despite clear qualifications (36:16).

• Draft Preview and Conference Power Shift:

  • J Mac’s Mock Draft indicates Big Ten and ACC ascendance, SEC less dominant at the top compared to past years (37:46–38:21).

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On SEC's Changing Fortunes:

  “Oregon right now is a better college football program than anybody in the SEC. ... Four years ago, Oregon would have been like third.” — Colin Cowherd (05:12)

• On Indiana's Culture:

  “Every time they’re going through traffic, you see the right hand come right over the ball... I don’t know if I can think of a mistake they made.” — Urban Meyer (12:55)

• On the NIL/Transfer Portal:

  “That’s the worst thing I’ve heard in the last 10 years of the game.” — Urban Meyer on the Demon Williams saga (18:56)

• On Officiating at Big Moments:

  “Life is nuanced and gray. It’s not all black and white... I would not call a pass interference on Miami in the end zone.” — Colin Cowherd (19:57–20:59)

• On QBs and Team Building:

  “This is what, Lamar? ... He’s got a $74 million cap hit next year. I don’t know if it’s sustainable.” – Analyst (48:35)
  “Tom Brady was never the highest paid quarterback. ... You have to make decisions.” — Colin Cowherd (49:39)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 03:12 — The SEC is “the Mountain West with bigger stadiums”
• 04:38 — Mark Cuban’s donation and Indiana’s ascendant future
• 06:10–11:25 — Colin’s Blazing 5 Playoff Picks (Rams, Bears, Jags, Eagles, Indiana)
• 11:45–24:30 — Urban Meyer joins: Coaching analysis, rematches, Miami’s physicality, NIL chaos, officiating philosophy
• 43:54–50:44 — NFL playoff predictions, salary cap realities, contract trends

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Conclusion

In this episode, Colin Cowherd delivers a data-packed, provocative perspective on the sea changes sweeping through both college and pro football. Whether spotlighting the power of NIL and boosters in college football's new world, setting the stage for the NFL playoffs with his trademark picks, or sparring with Urban Meyer on coaching culture, discipline, and controversial penalty calls, the show is a mix of tradition and disruption. It's a must-listen for anyone following the shifting tectonics of football, both on and off the field.

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[Colin Cowherd]

Thanks for listening to the Herd podcast. Be sure to catch us live every weekday on Fox Sports Radio and noon to 3 Eastern, 9am to noon Pacific. Find your local station for the [e-mail] or stream us live every day on the iHeartRadio app by searching Fox Sports Radio or FS. Now let's get this party started. You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. Here we go, hour two. It's a Friday. Urban Meyer in five minutes. He used to coach in the sec, formerly known as the dominating college football conference. I don't know, J. Mac. It looks like the Mountain west with bigger stadiums. That's what I see. Wow. Well, I mean it's I said this earlier when you, when you there are certain. I'll show it to Urban. That one run play where they're pushing Ole Miss back 10 yards. Nobody did that to the SEC four years ago. Nick Saban. There's a reason Nick Saban could have coached and left for television. He saw it coming. If you took Texas and Texas A and M out of the sec, the Texas oil money, what would this conference be then? They can't compete getting the top recruits oil money. You can compete.

[Fox Sports Radio Analyst (possibly Rob Parker or Kelvin Washington)]

I don't think people understand the gravity of where this is headed and how fast it's happening. Colin.

[Colin Cowherd]

No SEC team against go look at their last couple years in the bowl games.

[Fox Sports Radio Analyst (possibly Rob Parker or Kelvin Washington)]

So what do you where are we in three years? I mean, are we gonna have like a Minnesota or some wacky Big Ten?

[Colin Cowherd]

Depends on who the boosters are.

[Fox Sports Radio Analyst (possibly Rob Parker or Kelvin Washington)]

Exactly.

[Colin Cowherd]

Mark Cuban wrote a massive eight figure check to Indiana this week.

[Fox Sports Radio Analyst (possibly Rob Parker or Kelvin Washington)]

Where was Indiana three years ago? Nobody knows. Bottom of the Big Ten. Nobody cared about him.

[Colin Cowherd]

They're now for 50, 60 years.

[Fox Sports Radio Analyst (possibly Rob Parker or Kelvin Washington)]

I don't as long as Signetti is there and the money's rolling in, they're not going anywhere.

[Colin Cowherd]

Of course, for the record, Bloomington's an awesome college town, so it's an easy place. I've known several parents whose kids went they all love it. So it's like a fun campus. I mean, it's a neat place to go to college.

[Fox Sports Radio Analyst (possibly Rob Parker or Kelvin Washington)]

Like if I said better projection next five years. Indiana or Auburn. It's not even close. But people don't understand that. Like in the sec.

[Colin Cowherd]

They don't grasp Oregon right now is a better college football program than anybody in the sec. They were not. They would have been like third four years ago. Oregon's absolutely got better players. A better booster. Again, LSU's biggest booster is a personal injury attorney.

[Fox Sports Radio Analyst (possibly Rob Parker or Kelvin Washington)]

I'm sorry.

[Colin Cowherd]

The biggest Georgia booster who rest in peace. The gentleman had passed away. It was kind of a bourbon whiskey distributor. Those are great boosters. Yeah. Can't be your number one in the nil era.

[Fox Sports Radio Analyst (possibly Rob Parker or Kelvin Washington)]

No.

[Colin Cowherd]

Can't be a car dealer. Got to be a car maker.

[Fox Sports Radio Analyst (possibly Rob Parker or Kelvin Washington)]

Tech's got oil money. Texas Tech has a better future next five years.

[Colin Cowherd]

Tech has a billionaire.

[Fox Sports Radio Analyst (possibly Rob Parker or Kelvin Washington)]

Yes.

[Colin Cowherd]

Texas Tech is Indiana without Indiana's coach. Yeah, the signetti just made it all work.

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[Colin Cowherd]

Blazing five time. What a regular season. We had 60%. Best year in a while. I like my picks. Let's start our blazing five postseason edition. That's a hot one. Let's blaze it up.

[Guest Analyst]

Fire it up.

[Colin Cowherd]

It's Collins. Blazing fire. Rams and Panthers. Rams -10 and a half is is the side. They had an NFL eight wins by 14 plus points this season. No team had that many big blowout wins. Number one offense. Number one scoring offense. They just lost to this team. That is momentum. That is motivation. They're 122 in games in which they have one or fewer turnovers. So if they can cut the turnovers down and Stafford hasn't had a lot of bad games this year, they're going to win the game. The question is by how much. The Panthers are the only team to make the playoffs with a negative point differential. Bryce Young has struggled this season against good teams. Passer rating is 70. Against playoff teams. Rams win it. Rams cover final score 33 to 20. Packers and Bears. I like the Bears at home. Lousy weather. Plus one and a half. Bears have the number three rush offense. Don't turn the ball over. Better O line. Better run game. Lousy weather. Forget vertical passing. I like the Bears. Their offensive line. I think it's way better than people get. PFF has it at number three. They've won two of the last three games against Green Bay. Caleb Williams, five TDs and a pick. And that pick was end zone late in the game trying to make a play. The packers are on a four game losing streak heading into the playoffs. They've lost four of their last five playoff games 30th ranked total defense since Micah Parsons has left. I'm sorry it's not the same defense. Caleb's going to be comfortable with a better run game. I like the Bears. Take the points to win 27 24. Bills at Jaguars I like the Jags plus one and a half. They're 41 all time in home playoff games 80 since week 11 and have outscored teams by almost three touchdowns. They're 8 no against the spread in their last eight games. Mind me of that Carolina team with Cam Newton. They just got hot and you're like get out of the way. I get out of the way of this team. Defense is held. Opponents under 20 points or fewer in six straight games. And Trevor Lawrence in his last six games on an absolute heater. The Bills have trailed in the second half seven of the last 10 games. That is no way to beat good teams on the road. They cannot stop the run. The Bills have the worst run defense of every playoff team. I like the Jags to win. Superman or not. At quarterback for Buffalo 30 to 27. Jville 49ers @ Eagles Listen, I'm going to go Eagles minus five and a half. I worry about Pearsall and Trent Williams. They do have the number one red zone offense so they get sevens, not threes. They also have one turnover in the last three games. So they're, they're, you know, they've won three straight games. I do think they run the ball a little better recently. SAQUON Barkley, last four games it's got 400 rushing yards. They're at home. They're the better team. They're the healthier team. Listen, the Niners against Vic Fangio. J. Mac talked about it earlier this week. The Niners and Shanahan against Vic Fangio average 12 points a game. They struggle against him and they're too dependent on Christian McCaffrey. The defense has the fewest sacks in the league. Jalen Hurts is comfortable at home. Better roster, healthier roster. I'm going to take the Eagles to win and the Eagles to cover 28 to 20. Oregon versus Indiana. I like Indiana minus three and a half. I don't think that game at Austin was a score close at the score indicated Indiana's coming off back to back wins where they hammered Alabama and they beat Ohio State 3 and oh. Against top 10 opponents this year I'd argue Indiana plays better against better teams. They crushed a good Illinois team. They hammered Oregon at Dotson. They, you know, they pushed around Ohio State. Did they not committed fewer turnovers of any power four team this season. Eight giveaways. They don't make mistakes. The quarterbacks play the best player in college football. And Oregon, their defense has gotten a little leaky defending the run in two of their last three games. Oregon's a very good team. I just don't think they're built to beat an Indiana team that is this efficient, this well coached doesn't turn the ball over. I think Indiana wins. I think Indiana covers. I think it's a really competitive game with the two best college quarterbacks. Indiana 33, Oregon 28. So you know I'm going to pass on New England Chargers. I'm going to pass on the Steelers, Texans because the number now is only three. That was going to be my fifth bet. I'm going to take the Hoosiers. I got Dogs, Jags and Bears. I got favorites Indiana Eagles and the Rams. J Mac, any.

[Fox Sports Radio Analyst (possibly Rob Parker or Kelvin Washington)]

Opinion? Loving the Rams pick? We'll talk Packers Bears in the final segment of the show. I like the Eagles pick it based on what we saw last night, Colin, we were moments away from Ole Miss being in the Natty. I don't feel great about this Indiana Oregon game. Honestly. I have no. It could go either way. It feels like a coin flip, does it.

[Colin Cowherd]

Not? Not to me. But I think it's going Oregon to me has an argument as the second best.

[Fox Sports Radio Analyst (possibly Rob Parker or Kelvin Washington)]

Team. How many of these rematches have we seen that have gone the other.

[Colin Cowherd]

Way? That's.

[Fox Sports Radio Analyst (possibly Rob Parker or Kelvin Washington)]

True. And I, I know that's like a silly handicapping thing, but the motivation factor. Maybe Irving to talk about it but like I just Oregon, you know, they're going to be fired up for revenge after losing at home to.

[Colin Cowherd]

Indiana. Urban Meyer now Fox Sports joining us live. 17 years, three national championships. Let's talk about that, about facing a team for the second time. You do it in the NFL all the time. You don't do it in college much. How much of an advantage is it for the Oregon.

[Urban Meyer]

Ducks? Hi Colin. I, I've done it one time as an assistant coach. I don't think there's any bearing, you know, I don't think that other than comfort and knowing the personnel, you know, other than that, I don't, I don't see that. I hear people trying to make a big deal on that. Can you beat them twice a year? This is a new game, new season for these two teams. Everything's on the line. I'm actually staying at the Oregon Hotel right now and this is a, this is a fired up outfit. Now I love their coaching staff and. But I'll tell you, there's Hoosier. This is. Atlanta has become Indiana Central. I've never seen so many damn Indiana fans everywhere, man.

[Colin Cowherd]

Wow. You know, it's interesting. Belichick in his prime. The Patriots didn't fumble. Indiana doesn't fumble. They don't drop passes. How do you explain that your teams were well coached. It's. It's crazy. How do you, how do you not fumble? Is it just something you do every day in practice and commit.

[Urban Meyer]

To? Yeah, and I watched you don't fumble because the first of all, the players are bought into the culture of the program. Watch the tailbacks anytime or receiver anytime. They're going through trap epic. You see the right hand come right over the ball. Every, not, not partial, all the time. I'm going to say this, Colin, about Indiana. We've been covering a lot on big new Kickoff. When they beat Nebraska last year, I walked outside of the green room, I said, I gotta watch this because Indiana, the Indiana I know never looked or played like this. And so I'm going to go watch this close. I. I don't know if I, off the top of my head can think of a mistake they made. I know they got out talented a couple of times last year and lost some games, but I don't see the finer points of coaching. For example, perimeter blocking on offense, the tailback picking up blitz protection. You just talked about a turnovers then on defense, run fits, disengaging blocks and blown coverages. I'd like to see a videotape of whenever I've seen that. You don't see that. And that to me, that is players. Obviously coaches get credit. Players buying in to what these coordinators and the head coach are teaching. It's awesome to.

[Colin Cowherd]

Watch. Oh, it's. There's so much fun. Listen, I wouldn't be. I'd be happy if anybody won this. Natty. I just. I'm having so much fun this year with college football. I want to talk about last night. I said this. Mario Cristobal. A team becomes the personality of their coach. Mario is big and aggressive and physical and a big personality. And Miami is not the most efficient team. Drop passes, penalties, but they play with such ferocity and such confidence. They feel a little bit, a little bit of like a pro team. And so my concern with Miami Urban is they let other less talented teams back in the games. But in terms of speed, size, aggressiveness, like as a former coach, when you watch them, what do you see that you Like. And that would concern.

[Urban Meyer]

You. I think Miami is a problem. And what I mean by a problem, a problem for the other teams that what's really fun to watch as a former coach is that it's almost the physical teams are separating themselves right now. You know, the, the, the past happy, the, the other type of offenses, the other type of teams are starting to disappear. A matter of fact, they're disappearing. Teams that control the line of scrimmage, play great defense and are tough. As tough as hell. They're the ones that are winning games. And I personally love that. I love the fact that Miami is just that one play where the tailback got hit the offense line the entire. They got 8 to 10 yards post contact and you saw their head coach on the sideline. I mean, I love that kind of football. I think, I don't think, I think Miami's a problem. And here's the, here's the problem for the opponents. It's hard to score in Miami. And now Carson Beck is playing like the Carson Beck that everybody talked about for the last four years. That. Yeah, because he has all the talent now. He's taking care of the ball. He's making some great throws. Miami is a problem for whoever wins this game tonight. Indiana and.

[Colin Cowherd]

Oregon. Listen, I, I said this for, for. It was like SEC won like 13 natties in 15 or 16 or something years. And you could see the gap in talent, right? It is noticeable. I use that play you talked about, coach. I said that play, that run play. I'm sitting with J. Mac here and I said this did not happen four years ago to any SEC team. Maybe Vandy. I said this, this is now happening to Ole Miss. I saw it happen to lsu. I saw it happen to Alabama. Like, I'm sorry, but the quality of SEC defenses, it's just not the same. Urban. It doesn't look the same on tele. George's is good, but can't, I mean, in, I mean, let's be honest. Trinidad Chambliss did whatever he wanted to in the last 10 minutes of that game. You're seeing it, I'm seeing it. I think Nick Saban figured it out, got out of there. When you see it, it doesn't look like it looked three years ago, does.

[Urban Meyer]

It? No. And I'm trying to find out why. I, you know, I've asked this and I talked to a coach. I'm not going to say his name because it's not fair to him. Who played an SEC team recently. And when you're ever. You're playing an SEC team All you is you study the SEC because you're playing your every film you watch is the previous 10 games against SEC opponents. And he made a comment to me exactly what you said. It's not the same. You don't have that same fear factor. When you said the words sec the first thing you thought of is the defensive front seven. How in the heck are we going to block these guys? And now you're seeing teams get I mean Indiana hammer in Alabama Illinois hammering was a Tennessee, you know I and then who beat Vanderbilt another Big.

[Colin Cowherd]

Ten team Wake Wake Iowa. Yeah I think I will be.

[Urban Meyer]

Vanderbilt hammered Vanderbilt and that tells you whatever's happens happened. I wish I had an explanation. I've been thinking about this thing for the last few weeks because I lived in both I lived in the SEC where you got sick on Sundays watching who you're going to play because how are you going to block them. And then I coached early in the Big Ten and you didn't feel that way at all because quite honestly it wasn't hard. It's hard.

[Colin Cowherd]

Now. Yeah, it's. Yeah, it's crazy. The so a story happened this week and it just I didn't like it. It's been resolved where Washington's quarterback Demon Williams signed and said I'm going to enter the portal. And then his agent dropped it and said we're not. And my thing is urban. I give my kids occasional cake. They don't get it for breakfast. You got to have rules and guidelines. If you're a company, a parent, a relationship, there's guidelines for everything. That really bothered me that you could sign a contract. Hell, if you sign a contract in pro football, you can't get out of it. What did coaches make of that now apparently he's recommitted to Washington. But that. That felt like a tipping point moment. How did it land for.

[Urban Meyer]

You? That's the worst thing I've heard in the last 10 years of the game. And when I started reading up on it I know the AD very well. I've not reached out yet. At some point I will patch on it was sickening to me that and I don't know I don't know Demon Williams Jr. At all but I know what I read and I don't know how and I saw Coach Fish's statement, the AD statement how we're going to try to heal the locker room which I guess I'm so old school I don't know how you heal that you just turned your back on a locker room. So I hope it does. But it's the most disturbing thing I've heard. And I also heard this from colleagues. It's like I'm the punching bag, Colin. I get about 10 calls a week from former colleagues of mine and all they do is scream and yell at me about, can you believe this is happening? And they're telling me stories and something's got to happen. There's got to be some kind of regulation and for the good of the game and good of these players, and yet the product on the field, Collins. Unbelievable. But when I heard that, that's as I, I have a hard time getting over what I.

[Colin Cowherd]

Read. Oh, I want to go back one, one final thing so I, so I'll give you my analogy before we get to it, that when you and I get on the road to drive, there's a speed limit, but you and I know there's nuance. And if it's 55 and urban, you go 58, you're not getting a ticket. You also know that judges in our judicial system can be arbitrary. If you come in with a smart aleck grin on your face and you're a wiseacre and there was a real serious crime, the judge can give you a longer sentence because he doesn't like you. You don't think you're so. Life is nuanced and gray. It's not all black and white. I would not call a pass interference on Miami in the end zone. You don't call them on Hail Mary's in the NFL in the NBA finals. You don't want a championship decided at the free throw line. You got a really foul a player. So I didn't think it should be pass interference. We can show the play again. I thought if it was in the second quarter, you may get that call. I don't think you get that in the final throw. Did it bother.

[Urban Meyer]

You? Oh, it does bother me because if it's a foul, it's a foul. But I agree. I don't think you make that call. I, you know, it has to be so flagrant that you, you, you know, you make that call. But as we're watching it here, you know, I. Dog got it, but his left hand's all over.

[Colin Cowherd]

Him. Colin. Oh, yeah, I.

[Urban Meyer]

Know. Ah, Dog got it. You put me on the spot. I. You hate to have the official have a hand in the final play.

[Colin Cowherd]

But for the record, it.

[Urban Meyer]

Is. But is it pass.

[Colin Cowherd]

Interference? I think you get the call probably in the second quarter, they would give you that.

[Urban Meyer]

Call. The left Hand is the only thing that bothers me right.

[Colin Cowherd]

There. Well, yeah, it bothers everybody, I think, except Miami.

[Fox Sports Radio Analyst (possibly Rob Parker or Kelvin Washington)]

Yeah. I mean, it's it.

[Colin Cowherd]

Again. I know everybody disagrees with me. They're like, that, that's pass interference. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know it is. And I also know that Michael Jordan pushed off in the NBA Finals. I know he pushed off. You get it in the second quarter. Now, my take is if he was grabbing the face mask or you have to call it, like right there. You're like, oh, that's, that's.

[Urban Meyer]

Probably. Oh, gosh, Colin. So you're saying, no, don't call.

[Colin Cowherd]

It. I, I, I've watched Hail Marys in the NFL. All they're doing is banging into each other and boxing each other out. And it's like, we're not, we're not. But I feel like when you grab the face mask, if you grab. So you ruin the vision. But you can, I mean, Belichick was great at this. You know, Belichick, depending on the color of the jerseys, would have his guys wear like white gloves or darker gloves. Because his takeaway is you get to the corners of end zones where that's not, you know, they can't necessarily. Officials don't have the greatest view. You would like a white glove and a white jersey. You're grabbing and pushing it. There's, there's a lot of manipulation going on in the secondary. I mean, you see these targeting calls. I don't like those targeting calls at all. I didn't think that Miami kid should have been thrown out, but I, but I think at that time in the game, you do probably get thrown.

[Urban Meyer]

Out. All right, I'm fighting you, Colin. Throw the flag. Man, that's.

[Colin Cowherd]

PI. Look at that. All.

[Urban Meyer]

Right. Give people something to talk about. Throw the damn flag. I didn't feel that way last night because I haven't watched it 15 times in a.

[Colin Cowherd]

Row. All right, Irv, it's great seeing.

[Urban Meyer]

You. Great see you.

[Colin Cowherd]

Calling. Yeah, like, listen, Ole Miss fans, they're like urban. They're like, ah, come on. That is, I'm not saying it's not interference. I'm saying I wouldn't call it then it's all my. You ever notice this in the morning during rush hour traffic, nobody's getting a speeding ticket at 2 in the afternoon in your town, when nobody's on the freeway, you give a speeding ticket for the same speed, you're not going to jam up all the traffic. In morning traffic, everybody's going to work for a guy, even if they're going 15 miles out. You're not screwing up Atlanta traffic. Right. You're not. But at 2 in the afternoon, if somebody's doing that, then as a cop, you pull them over, you say, bro. Can't bob and weave inside and outside of.

[Fox Sports Radio Analyst (possibly Rob Parker or Kelvin Washington)]

Cars. Can you imagine the outrage if they had thrown a flag and Ole Miss scored on the next play that would have been more controversial than Miami, ohio state, what, 20 some odd years ago. Remember the past interference. Yeah, you just, you can't throw the flag. I mean, if he blatantly tackled him, he was just holding him. That was going on. That's going on everywhere. Come.

[Colin Cowherd]

On. Yeah, I think it's, I think.

[Fox Sports Radio Analyst (possibly Rob Parker or Kelvin Washington)]

It'S. I did like urban. I'm fine after 15 views, I changed my.

[Colin Cowherd]

Mind. Oh, it was, it was just deliriously fun. I, I'll say this, I thought Miami was the best team. I thought they should have won convincingly. But the game ended up at the end kind of looking like Ole Miss games where it's just Trinidad Chamleth's out there slinging.

[Fox Sports Radio Analyst (possibly Rob Parker or Kelvin Washington)]

It. What is, is you think he could be a pro or is he just.

[Colin Cowherd]

Doing. I would draft him like fifth six. I would draft him in the fifth round if he was available. I just want him on my roster. I think he's a great kid. I like his spirit. I like his movement. I think he has a. I don't think he has a. I think he has a good enough arm. I, I just think that kid I'd like in my locker.

[Fox Sports Radio Analyst (possibly Rob Parker or Kelvin Washington)]

Room. Could he be like your number two quarterback? Like.

[Colin Cowherd]

A. If.

[Fox Sports Radio Analyst (possibly Rob Parker or Kelvin Washington)]

I. Smaller Malik Willis.

[Colin Cowherd]

Backup. Yeah. If I said to you, Tyrod Taylor with way better mobility. Like you're getting a grown up and every time you listen to the kid, he's a grown up. He's a team guy. He's a wonderful guy. I think he plays on.

[Fox Sports Radio Analyst (possibly Rob Parker or Kelvin Washington)]

Sunday. And oh, by the way, he carried Ferris State to a national championship and then goes to Ole Miss and nearly takes them to the national.

[Colin Cowherd]

Championship. Sometimes you can't overthink the room. When you watch the ball come out of his hands. When you watch it, it got a lot of. It's got some juice on.

[Fox Sports Radio Analyst (possibly Rob Parker or Kelvin Washington)]

It. Makes.

[Colin Cowherd]

Plays. He makes a bunch of.

[Fox Sports Radio Analyst (possibly Rob Parker or Kelvin Washington)]

Plays. That sounds goofy, but.

[Colin Cowherd]

Like. And I also think there's value in this. He seems like a great kid. I like his. Yeah, he had to endure Ferris. I mean Ferris State. Like in Michigan, you go to Michigan or Michigan State or Central Michigan or Western Michigan and when you run out of options, you go to. You go.

[Fox Sports Radio Analyst (possibly Rob Parker or Kelvin Washington)]

There. Nobody wanted this guy coming out of high.

[Colin Cowherd]

School. That just seems to me when I watch him. The mobility is obvious. The ball seems to come out like fast. There's a real energy to his ball and so I draft him. Yeah, it's the herd. One more heard the herd streams 24 hours a day, seven days a week within the iHeartRadio app. Search heard to listen live or on demand whenever you'd like. Hey, it's Rob Parker and Kelvin.

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[Colin Cowherd]

Com. All sorts of stuff today. J Mac's got his picks. He's been pretty hot this year. Not me hot, but pretty hot. J Mac with the.

[Urban Meyer]

News. No, no, no.

[Colin Cowherd]

No. Turn on the.

[Fox Sports Radio Analyst (possibly Rob Parker or Kelvin Washington)]

News. This is the Herd line news. How long have I been on the show now? Three years, maybe two, three, four? I don't think we've ever talked about the Jacksonville Jaguars this much. That's how much they've turned it around. Liam Cohen, Trevor Lawrence. I mean, we're at the point now where Tom Brady is talking about the Jacksonville Jaguars. Here on the show, Tom's talked about Cohen's influence on Trevor.

[Guest Analyst]

Lawrence. Liam's done a great job even when he was at Tampa last year. And he has a couple opportunities to, you know, really kind of take the skill sets that he's learned from other coaches that he's been around and then morph them into a system where they have a lot of good skill Players and Trevor is, you know, a coach has got to get the players a lot of layups. Good ocs get, get their quarterbacks layups. You don't have to thread the needle on every single throw. You got guys that are wide open. Great. There's a big margin of error on a big portion of the passes. That's the goal of an offensive.

[Colin Cowherd]

Coordinator and that's what he's done. He's, he's, he's created clarity and an ease and Trevor Lawrence has delivered on that. It's, it's. You can't make every throw difficult. You got to have we talked about this with Mahomes when he came into the league. He'd give you three great plays like MJ a game. But mostly it was him hitting nine yard drags and sideline stuff and bubble screens and getting all those down. Herbert's like that. Herbert doesn't miss the layups. You can ask your quarterback about four to five times to make a great throw. And those, if you have the right protection, you can make those. Can't ask him to make 12 of.

[Fox Sports Radio Analyst (possibly Rob Parker or Kelvin Washington)]

Those. So two questions. Number one, the fact that Travis Hunter, you know, he had an okay rookie year, I mean can we even call it okay? But the fact that he got hurt, they add Jacoby Myers and the offense took off like a rocket ship. Does that say anything to you.

[Colin Cowherd]

About. Well, Jacobi Myers is a pro. He can walk into any locker room and he knows the, he knows the playbook. In two weeks he can't ask rookies to do.

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[Colin Cowherd]

Right. So I think it added a big time grown up Jacoby Myers. It's remarkable he was in New England. He was their best receiver. They let him go. He goes to the Raiders, he's their best receiver. They let him.

[Sponsor/Business Software Announcer]

Go.

[Colin Cowherd]

Yeah. And by the way, what's the Raider offense after they let him go? What was the Patriots offense after they let him go? Like I don't know why this guy keeps bouncing around the league. Everywhere he goes he's an asset. Yeah, I don't get.

[Fox Sports Radio Analyst (possibly Rob Parker or Kelvin Washington)]

It. The other aspect. So the defensive coordinator of the Jags, Anthony Campanile, I know he doesn't get a lot of pub. So I covered high school sports in Jersey. This guy was a legend. Ended up going to Rutgers and he is really doing some things with this Jags defense. I know people aren't talking about it, but I'm going to go ahead and guess if Josh Allen is shut down and the Bills get held to like 13, 14, I think this guy's going to get some interviews for head coaching.

[Colin Cowherd]

Jobs. And he was a high school coach in.

[Fox Sports Radio Analyst (possibly Rob Parker or Kelvin Washington)]

Jersey. He was a high school player, then a coach. And then, I mean, this guy has done some things to this defense. They play a lot of zone and the Bills don't have a lot of zone beaters. They got like Keon Coleman, Palmer from the Chargers. They're just straight line, man. Guys, I'm starting to hear some. Could the Jags blow them out and at that point then McDermott's probably.

[Colin Cowherd]

Toast. We've discussed this. The line does not make.

[Fox Sports Radio Analyst (possibly Rob Parker or Kelvin Washington)]

Sense. Something's out, Something's going.

[Colin Cowherd]

On. If, if Buffalo and Josh Allen had been as dominating the last six weeks and this game was in Buffalo, they would be like a. A 7 to 9 point favorite. Yeah, Favorite. Jacksonville isn't even a favorite. And they've been playing like this. It's like, guys, the helmets aren't playing. The people.

[Fox Sports Radio Analyst (possibly Rob Parker or Kelvin Washington)]

Are. Remember when the Chiefs played the Jags on Monday Night Football and then Devin Lloyd had like the 99 yard pick six. A lot of people were like, ah, well, you know, that flipped the game and Chief should have won that. I thought the Jags were the better. We talked about this, like go to the Denver.

[Colin Cowherd]

Game. Go to the Charger.

[Fox Sports Radio Analyst (possibly Rob Parker or Kelvin Washington)]

Game. That was 35, six by the way. The worst, like Harbaugh doesn't get beat like that often. Playoff game last year when everybody was hurt in Jacksonville. Just be careful, Buffalo on this one. Next story. Let's go to the Dolphins firing up Mike McDaniel earlier this week. A lot of people are connecting him with the Cleveland Browns opening, but a new report indicates the Lions desperately want him to be their offensive coordinator. Yes, Dan Campbell took over play calling late in the season because Morton was not good. Then they dumped Morton recently. You could make an argument if they land McDaniel, that's the best coordinator. Higher because that would fit Jared.

[Colin Cowherd]

Goff, Gibbs & Co. Dan Campbell. Hire Mike McDaniel. This is one of those layups. Go hire Mike McDaniel as your coordinator. Yeah, this is exactly what he should do. Because in Miami he could never get the O line in the quarterback to his loving. Now he gets Goff and a great O line. So Mike McDaniel made two up Pro bowl or made the playoffs with a bad O line. Now he gets a great O line potentially. And a veteran quarterback who throws. Goff throws a much better.

[Fox Sports Radio Analyst (possibly Rob Parker or Kelvin Washington)]

Deep ball. And remember, Laporta was hurt the end of the season. Missed a bunch.

[Colin Cowherd]

Of games. I'll tell you right now. What did Detroit go this year, eight.

[Fox Sports Radio Analyst (possibly Rob Parker or Kelvin Washington)]

And nine. Nine and.

[Colin Cowherd]

Eight, maybe. Okay. I'll tell you right now, McDaniel goes to the Lions. That's back to that. 13 5.

[Fox Sports Radio Analyst (possibly Rob Parker or Kelvin Washington)]

13 4. They got a lot of pieces on offense. The defense leaves some things to be desired. Let me ask though. McDaniel obviously would fit in seamlessly should he aim for a head.

[Colin Cowherd]

Coaching job. He's not going to get a head coaching job. Cliff Kingsbury is not a.

[Fox Sports Radio Analyst (possibly Rob Parker or Kelvin Washington)]

Head coach. Eight jobs, Colin. We gotta find eight.

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[Colin Cowherd]

You will. I mean, you got Harboss, Stefanski and Mike McCarthy all proven head coaches. So of those eight jobs, you're down to five. Also, Brian Flores probably has a chance to.

[Fox Sports Radio Analyst (possibly Rob Parker or Kelvin Washington)]

Get one. I think the lawsuit against the league is still pending. We'll see. I just. If I go, if I'm McDaniel, I walk in ahead. Coaching interviews, guys. I got this Dolphins mess with my gm who got fired and couldn't hit a draft pick to save his life. I get them to the playoffs twice with two of.

[Colin Cowherd]

Nobody wants. Why isn't Brian Dabel.

[Fox Sports Radio Analyst (possibly Rob Parker or Kelvin Washington)]

Being mentioned?

[Colin Cowherd]

Good question. Like, if you told me tomorrow Brian Dabel gets the Atlanta Falcons job, I'd be like, oh, I think they'll win.

[Fox Sports Radio Analyst (possibly Rob Parker or Kelvin Washington)]

The division. I haven't heard his name mentioned anywhere. That's.

[Colin Cowherd]

Very.

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[Colin Cowherd]

Yeah. Why. Why isn't Brian Dable won a playoff game with.

[Fox Sports Radio Analyst (possibly Rob Parker or Kelvin Washington)]

Daniel Jones? Do you think he's would instantly be a candidate for Buffalo? Remember, he was the OC there for Josh.

[Colin Cowherd]

Allen, maybe? Yeah, maybe. I think that'd be a.

[Fox Sports Radio Analyst (possibly Rob Parker or Kelvin Washington)]

Great show. I mean, Dable's good. I like Dable. All right, final story. Colin, Drop Mock Draft 1.0 yesterday. Got my guy Mendoza up top. Obviously Dante Moore to my Jets. And you know, some people obviously unhappy as mock drafts come out. Wait, we wouldn't take that guy. I'm heavy on the offensive line. We've seen the issue in the trenches around the league. Chiefs lose their office.

[Colin Cowherd]

It'S over. Let me. Let me look at this. Let me look at this. So don't you have Dante Moore coming.

[Fox Sports Radio Analyst (possibly Rob Parker or Kelvin Washington)]

Coming out? I mean, a lot of people do. I got two quarterbacks in the top 10. That's it. Ty Simpson a little further down. Bane, by the way, last night was super quiet. He had, I think, one pressure in the game, but he's still elite. The guy that is interesting to me, Carnell Tate from Ohio State. If he goes to Jaden, Jaden Daniels and Terry McLaurin, that's an instant offense in Washington. They don't have an OC right Now what do you think about Caleb down Downs, the Ohio State stud? Have him 10 to the Bengals. Here's the problem with downs. We're seeing a lot of NFL teams utilize safeties in different ways now around the league. I. I wonder if downs moves up higher into the.

[Colin Cowherd]

Top ten. So I'm going to name the conference your top.

[Fox Sports Radio Analyst (possibly Rob Parker or Kelvin Washington)]

15 players. Oh, here.

[Colin Cowherd]

We go. Big ten, big ten, acc, acc. Big 12, sec. Big ten, big ten, big 12, big ten, big ten, acc, sec.

[Fox Sports Radio Analyst (possibly Rob Parker or Kelvin Washington)]

Notre Dame. Not a lot of SEC.

[Colin Cowherd]

In there. And I think Kaden Green.

[Fox Sports Radio Analyst (possibly Rob Parker or Kelvin Washington)]

Feels like a bit of.

[Colin Cowherd]

A reach. Not that it's a bad by you, but I'm saying he could easily not go in.

[Fox Sports Radio Analyst (possibly Rob Parker or Kelvin Washington)]

This space. So wasn't there a year where There was like 10 sec guys in the first.

[Colin Cowherd]

When you. I noticed it this year watching George's defense. I was just like, oh, you can move the ball in Georgia. You could not move the ball in Georgia four years ago.

[Fox Sports Radio Analyst (possibly Rob Parker or Kelvin Washington)]

Nobody could. Jeremiah Love a little low to Baltimore. I think there's a soft reset with.

[Colin Cowherd]

The Ravens. Let me tell you something. If the Giants get Spencer Fano out of Utah, you just found a 10 year right tackle between Tom and also. Also. See, I would do this. I'm not a big fan of drafting wide receivers high. What the. You bring Fano in at right tackle and then if Andrew Thomas, who has a history getting banged up is out, you move Fano over. The Giants have to draft a tackle. Second pick should be a.

[Fox Sports Radio Analyst (possibly Rob Parker or Kelvin Washington)]

Tight end. Well, they got Theo Johnson and Bellinger are serviceable, you know, neighbors the wide receiver. This offense. Daniel Jeremiah convinced me of this. This offense is about to take off with Jackson Dart. They've got guys when they're healthy next year, the defense leaves a little something to.

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[Fox Sports Radio Analyst (possibly Rob Parker or Kelvin Washington)]

That's fun. I need more wide receivers up there. That was.

[Colin Cowherd]

The biggest. Where did you drop this? Where is your mock.

[Fox Sports Radio Analyst (possibly Rob Parker or Kelvin Washington)]

Draft at?

[Colin Cowherd]

On Instagram.

[Fox Sports Radio Analyst (possibly Rob Parker or Kelvin Washington)]

On ig. You don't follow me there yet.

[Colin Cowherd]

Still. Still. Do you? I don't go to Instagram.

[Guest Analyst]

A lot.

[Fox Sports Radio Analyst (possibly Rob Parker or Kelvin Washington)]

Are you. You're more of a tick tock.

[Colin Cowherd]

Guy now. I like tick tock. I go, I go. I read books occasionally. Occasionally I'll go on X because I put my podcast.

[Fox Sports Radio Analyst (possibly Rob Parker or Kelvin Washington)]

On there. You need to just pull the pin on a grenade, throw it on X and then leave for five hours. That's the strategy. Joe.

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[Fox Sports Radio Analyst (possibly Rob Parker or Kelvin Washington)]

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[Colin Cowherd]

Over it. All right. That's quite a strategy. J. Mac with the news. Well, that's the news and thanks for stopping by the Herd Lie News. Be sure to catch live editions of the Herd, weekdays at noon Eastern, 9am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, FS1 and the.

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[Fox Sports Radio Analyst (possibly Rob Parker or Kelvin Washington)]

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On Fox. When you watch Indiana and Oregon play tonight, you're going to see the two best college quarterbacks that both would be if they came out. It'd be one and two in the draft. Put them in any order you want. I like Mendoz a little bit more, but they're both really, really good. Good kids. Good, good quarterbacks. Both can move more moves a little better. But when you watch Indiana, really good coaching just jumps off the tv. They just don't make any mistakes. They haven't had an errand snap all year, not one. Fewest drop passes, best in the red zone. They haven't had a fumble since the 18th play of the season. It's just now some of it is the age of their team. They're just an older, more mature team. They really push the ball down the field they go. They throw the ball deep down the field. So Mendoza is a real, a real key here. Signetti's done a remarkable job, but they were good last year, but they weren't special here. Here's Urban on what he sees with our coaching you.

[Urban Meyer]

Don'T fumble. Because the first of all, the players have bought into the culture of the program. Watching the tailbacks anytime or receiver, anytime. They're going through traffic, you see the right hand come right over the ball every, not, not partial, all the time. I don't know if I, off the top of my head, can think of a mistake.

[Colin Cowherd]

They made. Yeah, they. They just don't. I like Indiana. I think it's pretty close tonight. All right, let's put up the weekend's playoff matchups. There is one game we all sort of agree with. Rams probably beat the Panthers. You know, they played before. Matt Stafford did not play particularly well. So that game on Fox, I think the Rams win again. A lot of Ram wins are. They're an interesting team. They'll have these three series stretches where they stall and they're three and out. And I don't love their special teams. I mean, if they gave up a kickoff for a touchdown and missed two field goals and they ended up winning by just a touchdown, but dominated, I mean, it could. If it looks a little bit like Miami Ole Miss last night, like, how. How is this game close? I could see that. But I still think they would win. Green Bay and the Bears, everybody's all over the map on that one. I, you know, it's the third time they've played, and Tom Brady talked about.

[Guest Analyst]

That yesterday. This is what you love about it. These two teams know each other so well. Guys are coming out of, you know, some unheralded receivers from the Bears have made some plays late in these games. So it is a super tight matchup for this game. This is one of the most intriguing games of the weekend. I can't wait to see how both teams played. And look, they know each other so well. So now it really does come down to.

[Colin Cowherd]

The fundamentals. Yeah, it comes down to turnovers. So go back to the board again, looking at the games. So the weekend starts with a dominating team, heavily favored. Then it goes into teams playing for the third time. Then it goes into Sunday, early a wild potential Bills Jaguars game. The Bills have the best player. The Jags have the hottest team. Then you go into kind of an iconic Niners at the Eagles where it's really about health in the 49ers. If they're healthy, they can beat anybody. Chargers, Patriots, where you have two quarterbacks who kind of want Herbert feels like the east coast version, you know, of Drake May and vice versa. And then Monday, you've got a Texans team that doesn't score much but has the best defense against The Steelers and 42 year old Aaron Rodgers. So what I like about the weekend and you're getting a variety of games. You're getting first playoff game guy, you're getting wonky, weird. Jaguar franchise with a chance to upend the Buffalo Bills franchise with a win. J. Mack one hour from now has his picks. If I took the Rams, let's just say don't give away your picks. But if I said to you there's a crazy headline after the weekend, like there's a headline, you're like. Because you know what's going to happen. Wild card weekend. There's going to be a weird.

[Fox Sports Radio Analyst (possibly Rob Parker or Kelvin Washington)]

Weird moment. Jaguars 31, 10 bills fire their coach. And the headlines are boy, all the highest paid quarterbacks. The superstar quarterbacks are out. Either miss the playoffs or they lose in the first round. What do we do about paying franchise quarterbacks and.

[Colin Cowherd]

The money? This is what.

[Fox Sports Radio Analyst (possibly Rob Parker or Kelvin Washington)]

Lamar remember. He's not happy with his deal. He wants a.

[Colin Cowherd]

New one. He's got a 74 million cap hit.

[Fox Sports Radio Analyst (possibly Rob Parker or Kelvin Washington)]

Next year. I just, I don't know if it's sustainable. You look at that Chiefs roster, I know we got some Chiefs fans at.

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[Colin Cowherd]

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[Fox Sports Radio Analyst (possibly Rob Parker or Kelvin Washington)]

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[Colin Cowherd]

There's nobody. So if you look at who's in here, it is. And this includes Bo Nix and Sam Darnold.

[Fox Sports Radio Analyst (possibly Rob Parker or Kelvin Washington)]

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[Colin Cowherd]

That'S. Yeah. It's either quarterbacks on rookie deals or quarterbacks with reasonably team.

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[Colin Cowherd]

Deals. Yeah. Sam Darnold, pretty team friendly. Brock Purdy, pretty team friendly. I mean Justin Herbert's is viewed as pretty.

[Fox Sports Radio Analyst (possibly Rob Parker or Kelvin Washington)]

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[Colin Cowherd]

Hurts. Yep. Jalen hurts. Josh Allen's is not team friendly. No, it's. Josh Allen makes a lot of money. Aaron Rodgers, by the way, team.

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[Fox Sports Radio Analyst (possibly Rob Parker or Kelvin Washington)]

Deal. Yes. It just, it feels like a new era and it's weird because in college football there's this new era with the nil. I feel like the NFL is going through a bit of a sea change right now with the way teams are built. I, I don't.

[Colin Cowherd]

It'S unsustainable. Well, Tom Brady was never the highest.

[Fox Sports Radio Analyst (possibly Rob Parker or Kelvin Washington)]

Paid quarterback. Never once. That's a.

[Colin Cowherd]

Great stat. Yeah, never. Tom Brady was never the highest paid quarterback. So you have to make decisions. Yeah, I mean, I, I mean Stafford is the biggest cap hit playing this weekend after Josh Allen, the.

[Fox Sports Radio Analyst (possibly Rob Parker or Kelvin Washington)]

Other one. And listen, I, you know, we love him. If Justin Herbert loses, he will then fall to 03 in the playoffs. Remember Dan Marino or Peyton Manning famously could not win a playoff game to save his life early. But I do think if the Chargers lose and Herbert's not great, oh Justin Herbert sees not that good. Can't win a playoff game that watch for that narrative to emerge. I think the Chargers are going to.

[Colin Cowherd]

Be fine. But the, the fact that Chargers went 11 and 6 with the lowest rated offensive line in the league week, it's not like it's good against, it's not good in pass protection. It's 32 and 31. It's, it's no team since PFF has started ranking O lines has ever won a playoff game with an offensive line as bad as the.

[Fox Sports Radio Analyst (possibly Rob Parker or Kelvin Washington)]

LA charts. And by the way, if the Chargers win that game, they will then go to Denver.

[Colin Cowherd]

Next week. Think.

[Fox Sports Radio Analyst (possibly Rob Parker or Kelvin Washington)]

About this. Yeah, okay, they beat Denver once and the rematch last week they played all backups cups and it was nip and tuck. Denver couldn't score with their.

[Colin Cowherd]

Starter Bo Nix, who's watching on TV this weekend. His cap hit is 7% of Josh Allen's cap hit. Well, why is Denver's roster so good? Yeah, there you go. Who's got the, you know, I mean Denver's O line, Denver's D line, Denver's secondary, you know. All right man, last hour of the week coming up and maybe we just saved best for last. Why not? Whether you want to maximize your performance or form healthier habits this year, knowing what your body needs can help put you on the right path. With Quest, you can buy your own lab tests [e-mail] no doctor visit required for purchase. Quest has a huge selection of tests, including the new Elite Health Profile, a panel made for men and women and tracks 85 plus health markers affecting the heart, liver, kidneys, hormones, metabolism and immune system, delivering a ton of insights in one snapshot. For a limited time, save on select lab [e-mail] with code herd10. That's herd10.

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