Nick Wright (10:42)

Yeah, that makes more sense.

Colin Cowherd (10:44)

The Rams. Okay. All right.

Nick Wright (10:47)

I mean, I mean this is. Here, listen, far be it for me to critique, but I will, just for a moment, whenever your rationale. You do this about twice a year. You put a team number one and then your rationale is, I don't know what to do with them. Well, I don't know. Then put them like four. Like if you don't Know what to do with them, maybe don't give them the top spot. I am really impressed by New England and I also think big picture New England is a case study for fan bases out there whose owners or front offices make excuses about how long a rebuild takes. If you have, if you ace the quarterback and the coach, the rebuild's done. Now you're in build. The Patriots were a train wreck for four straight years. They got the right quarterback, took him a year, you know, his rookie season. They got the right coach and now they are a legitimate contender. The only, my only pushback would be, I think if the Patriots were to make the super bowl and play the Rams, packers or Seahawks, you'd pick the Rams, packers or Seahawks. And if they play the Bills in the playoffs, you might pick the Bills. And so that's. The record is great. And I don't care so much about the soft schedule. I think they've been very impressive. I think they're closer to right now the fifth best team than the best team, but other than that. Colin, listen, I'm in a bad way. This is a herd hierarchy without the Chiefs and I can't even argue it. Like, I can't even get mad. I mean the only, the Chiefs only got mentioned during the hierarchy when you're like, hey, they won Super Bowls when they couldn't run the ball. That's the only time they were even alluded to. It's sad times. Not dead yet in this wide open. AFC got a rally. But it would be, it would be nice if they could get a stop on third and long, which they haven't all year.

Colin Cowherd (12:42)

Okay, so that's interesting because they're not getting blown out, they're in games. And I was talking to a friend about this. I said, listen, it's, there's, there's not a lot of great. I mean, even Philadelphia wins the super bowl. We don't love the coach.

Nick Wright (12:54)

Right?

Colin Cowherd (12:55)

Like, we don't love Jalen in the pocket, you know, like, so there's no. The last great team. I mean, Kansas City a couple years ago was pretty damn great. The Seahawks had a two year run where you're like, yikes. They embarrassed Peyton Manning. Why? If I had a point in one thing and say this is why Kansas City's not the same team.

Nick Wright (13:14)

What would be defense can't get off the field. I mean, the defense can't get. So the. During the last three years, the Chiefs had, you know, when they made three straight Super Bowls.

Colin Cowherd (13:25)

Yeah.

Nick Wright (13:26)

They were number three in the NFL in third and Long, third and seven plus defense, I'm not talking about Mahomes, I'm talking about Spags. Dials up a blitz, gets off the field. This year they are the fourth worst in the league at third. And long defense, they have the fourth fewest turnovers forced in the league. They have the sixth fewest sacks in the league. So they just are unable to get an extra possession or, or to get off the field. And that's what you saw in Dallas. The Chiefs defense over this last four years, last three and a half years since they traded Tyreek, what it had been known for is it's going to let you move the ball and then there's. You're going to have a first and 10 where they stuff you for zero yards on a run. Then all of a sudden force an incompletion, you're in third and 10 and spags get you off the field. They did that to the Cowboys six times. Had the Cowboys in third and eight or worse and the Cowboys just every single time picked it up. Yeah, and so that's what has to change now. This weekend is a whole different set of issues, which is left tackle, Josh Simmons got his wrist broken by a teammate, like on a fluke play. Someone was trying to chip, block and hit him in the wrist. So he's going to be out. The right tackle, Juwan Taylor could be out. And you're up against the one team in the league you would least like to not have your tackles with that ferocious pass rush in Tennessee with the Texans. With that said, Colin and I think they're in for a fight for their lives on Sunday night. If they win that game, they then, in my opinion, will go into a game against the Chargers where the winner of that game is going to end up with the final playoff spot in the afc. Because if the, like the Chargers play the Philly on Monday night and then the Chiefs. The Chiefs get one of the teams ahead of them on Sunday and then another one ahead of them the following week. So they're alive, but their margin of error has absolutely collapsed. And they, if they go undefeated, then they will make the playoffs. If they go 4 and 1, then they probably miss unless Indy totally collapses, which it could. So they're in a bad spot and they've done this to themselves. That Jacksonville game, they had no business losing. If they win that game, the season's totally different. But they didn't with all that. So all that's legit. It's not bad luck, it's not bad officiating. It's just they haven't been good enough. With that said, if they get in in this AFC field, they're as scary as ever. But they got to get there. And right now they're an underdog to get there.

Colin Cowherd (16:16)

So I was talking about Dallas earlier today. I said we're getting to a point that Dak is going to lead the NFL and offense with a third head coach. And we haven't liked any of them. At some point, it's like he's probably, you know, the Culkin brothers. Macaulay Culkin was the child star. The other brother took a while to develop. He wins an Oscar later. Like some people, Samuel L. Jackson starts in his 70s, doesn't hit till the 90s. Some people take longer to bake. I was always with you. His deck is good, but he's B plus. I gotta be honest, it's the best I've ever seen him. He's in year 10. He's off another surgery. Do we need to start having a different conversation? To be fair? I mean, Darnold developed later, Baker, but Dak, I look at Dak today and I'm like, did I miss this badly? Was this guy an A plus? And I had him as a B to a B plus. I mean, where are you with Dak?

Nick Wright (17:11)

And no, I don't think you missed it. I think he is steadily improved and I think maybe, you know, that we were a touch harsh on him a couple years ago. But I think, I don't think you or I have ever been like, Dak is the problem. Dak is bad. It's that. Is Dak going to be, you know, play at this level, which this level is. He is doing what Joe Burrow did last year, which said, okay, we're going to have to win games just with our offense. Obviously, the defense gotten better over as opposed to the Quinn and Williams trade. And he has delivered I to me, I think Stafford may after those two guys, Dak has as strong of an argument to be on an MVP ballot as anybody else. So I think. I think that is legitimate. I also think that the other reason there have been questions about Dak is the same reason there are questions with every quarterback that we think is good and we're trying to figure out if their grade is. We would like to see them produce at least the same level they produce in the regular season, in the postseason. And we haven't seen that yet from Dak. But this year he's playing the position as well as he ever has and he's played it at a very high level. At various times in the past I think he's been great. I think the Cowboys are terrifying to play.

Colin Cowherd (18:38)

Yeah.

Nick Wright (18:39)

And they are going to miss the playoffs despite it. Like I just think, I think they might have dug themselves too big of a hole. But on any given like they right now, if you see them on on the schedule it's like seeing a 9 and 3 team on your schedule. That's the level they're playing. I just don't know if in the jam packed NFC unless Philly full on collapses which is on the board it might be too little too late for Dallas.

Colin Cowherd (19:06)

So you know the Mike Tomlin thing has been. I made a comment last week and I thought it was a decent one where I said this whole thing about well we don't have a losing season. In the last 21 years you've had 60 teams miss the playoffs who were 500 or better. It's an arbitrary stat. Well, we didn't have a losing season. It doesn't matter. It doesn't, doesn't guarantee anything. We've got, you know, you've got, if you get to 10 it feels pretty good. 11 year in 9 means nothing and But I think my bigger problem with Tomlin, when I see something that keeps happening over and over with anybody in any business, they struggle late. His high motivation, rah rah speeches cancel out. They can't run the ball again this year they go, they work their way through coordinators, left tackles, running backs, wide receivers, quarterbacks. It to me it's a broken franchise, it feels outdated, it's not current in an offensive league. I think it's time and he'll get hired again like Miami. Probably hire him tomorrow. Be smart. But I think it's kind of time with Tomlin. I'm seeing too many patterns over the last six years. It's the same team every year.

Nick Wright (20:22)

So I think there's a lot there. I think first of all you can be a great coach and it be time to move on. Listen, Mike Tomlin isn't Andy Reid but for Philadelphia he's a great coach though. But Philadelphia was not wrong for moving off Andy Reid. And the fact that Andy has had this success in Kansas City doesn't mean that Philadelphia should have stuck with him. Like it felt like Andy and Philadelphia, right or wrong, had run its course. They wanted to turn the page and it's not because they thought well this guy's a bum. They just thought they needed something fresh. That feels a lot like what we're staring at With Pittsburgh, where I would and I have mass respect for Mike Tomlin, but I also don't know that Mike Tomlinson can pick a quarterback or that you want Mike to like. I think if I were a team that I feel very confident has a quarterback in place, like I'll give you a for instance. If Cincinnati were to decide, you know what, three straight years, missing the playoffs, back to back years where the defense can't get right. I know Burrow has been injured, but we want a fresh start from Zach Taylor. I'd hire. If Mike Tomlin's available, I'd hire him in a heartbeat.

Colin Cowherd (21:41)

Yes.

Nick Wright (21:42)

If the. If the Giants feel like Jackson Dart is the guy and they're. You're not going to have to find the quarterback. To me, Tomlin's a good option. Miami, I'd be squeamish about it because I would feel like, man, are we going to be in the same position that Pittsburgh found themselves in, which is he is a floor raiser, which then means we're not going to have a top pick to draft a quarterback and we're going to be on this carousel. That would be my concern. But it does. It feels to me, Colin, like there are a lot of super bowl champion coaches that could be kind of coaching for their jobs the final month. If I understand he is the defending super bowl champion if Philly collapses again, I would not put it past Howie Roseman to make a change. If they were to go from eight and two to out of the playoffs, Yes, I think Howie, Howie Roseman has fired better coaches than Nick Sirianni. If Baltimore misses the playoffs or even if they make it because the AFC north is bad but they go one and done in the playoffs, I think Harbaugh's got to be quite nervous. And if Pittsburgh isn't able to take advantage of the Ravens starting one and four and Joe Burrow missing three months and they missed the playoffs, I think Tomlin would have to be a little anxious. So that's three super bowl champion head coaches who have a lot on the line. The final five weeks of the season into the playoffs.

Colin Cowherd (23:13)

Finally you've acknowledged you. You don't love college football like I do, but you've always got interesting perspectives. Hey, My thing with Mrs. Ole Miss, I said, listen, if when you hired Kevin years ago, if I would have said to you, he'll bring you your best year ever, you'll be number one in the sport by a mile in offense, you'll be fascinating and talked about your greatest year ever, he will leave you at the altar and burn you. You would have said, yeah, okay, I'll take it.

Nick Wright (23:43)

Absolutely.

Colin Cowherd (23:45)

I tell my wife this anytime she complains about or the kids or something. Oh my. I'm like, honey, would you have signed up for your life when we met 20 years ago? I would have. You know, like, sometimes you have to just say, well, the worst case scenario is we have 11 wins and we're going to the playoff. I think Ole Miss's reaction is typical and predictable. But LSU is a better job, is it not?

Nick Wright (24:10)

No, listen, LSU is a better job. I don't know that I. If I were in today's version of college football, it's not as much of a better job than it once was. And because you can level the playing field a bit with nil. And if I were Lane Kiffin, I might prefer the security of Ole Miss. So I don't know that he'll enjoy it more. But that's for his decision. It certainly has higher upside is more prestigious. Here is my. I have two major takeaways from this whole saga and the way it's been covered. The first one is this. Everyone understands the college football calendar is messed up. We all get that. But that does that being used by some folks. I'm not talking about you because I think you feel like it was just an obvious choice. But folks that want to shield Kiffin from what is whatever accountability there is for leaving these kids in the playoffs being like, it's not Lane Kiffin, adult millionaire human being's fault. It's this inanimate object known as the calendar's fault. Like, what could the man do with this calendar? Like, that part I don't buy. And the other one, and this is. You mentioned your wife and kids. I'm going to give a parenting anecdote of my own. My youngest daughter has an amazing a tendency almost that if she is presented with two really good options, not like go to bed or do your homework, it's like go. You know, two things she wants to do, but. And she gets to pick which one. She ends up being very sad because even though she is picking the one she wants, she can't stop but thinking about the things she didn't pick, right? And that's understandable for a child. What I don't like at all is the crocodile tears from Kiffin. Like, man, this was so hard and I'm gonna miss out. Buddy, you made a choice. You had two amazing options, both of which were ten plus million dollars a year. Try to get a statue built of you compete for national champions. Objectively speaking, you chose the one that you thought would make you happier. So don't then tell me about how sad it made you. Like, that is a child thing, not an adult thing. So I don't blame him for it. But I also don't have a lot of sympathy for. He's an adult who made a choice that he thought was best for him. He's allowed to do it. And I think it'll probably work in the short term. But I don't think Lane Kiffin is someone anybody should get in the business world, get married to. And I think he's shown that. But see if they can peel a national championship.

Colin Cowherd (26:59)

Nick Wright. First things first. Good to have you back. A little somber, but the Chiefs again. Listen, it's tough. It is. You haven't been here.

Nick Wright (27:08)

Listen, here's the deal, Colin. Here's the deal. And then I'll go, this is the most down bad I've ever been about the Chiefs or since I've been on TV and they could miss the playoffs. But I'm here to tell you, if they win Sunday night, I'm going to be on the air Monday saying they beat the Chargers, they're going back to the super bowl. And you might agree two wins away from being back, one loss away from the season being over, but two wins away from being all the way back. So we'll see. They got to win, but you beat the Texans, beat the Chargers. The Titans aren't even a football team these days. Well, just two wins away.

Colin Cowherd (27:49)

It's almost like when the Oscars have five or six, you know, like directors or actors, and they're all in that box and they're going to announce the winner and you're either the most famous person in the world for about six days or you go on to independent films and you get lost at the Bermuda Triangle and nobody ever remembers you. That's what Chiefs are. It's here we come again or here.

Nick Wright (28:10)

We come or on the next season. Exactly right. I'll see you, buddy.

Colin Cowherd (28:15)

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Kelvin Washington (33:05)

Nope, no update. But we will start with someone that got roasted. The Pittsburgh Steelers defense. Colin. Oh my gosh. I don't know if you heard this stat. The Buffalo bills rushed for 249 yards against the Steelers. That was the most allowed by Pittsburgh at home in 50 years. Yes. James Cook cooked. Colin. The last running back to run for this many yards was O.J. simpson way back in the day against the Steelers. I mean, that was what, two or three stadiums ago? T.J. watt was embarrassed he got to the podium. I think we touched on that yesterday. Yeah, I don't know what you do. Listen, we've been on this for a couple of years. You got to move off TJ Watt. Stop building around the defense. I do think the fire Tomlin stuff is a bridge too far. But what do you do if they miss the playoffs? Does he, does he bolt for the Penn State job or something crazy like that.

Colin Cowherd (33:53)

I don't think he wants. I don't think he's a college football guy in terms of interest. I think he'd be great. I don't think he wants to play that. I think he's a pro, you know, I think he's a pro guy. Again, it's just we moved off Belichick and Andy Reid. Like, I, I just don't. I don't. Look at that. I mean, Mike Vrabel got fired. Look at Mike Vrabel right now. I don't think Mike McCarthy's got a ring. Got fired, then he walked away.

Kelvin Washington (34:18)

The Vrabel stuff, if memory serves, was. Was about the GM and him were butting heads. The GM traded AJ Brown without consulting him.

Colin Cowherd (34:25)

There's a lot of discussion in Pittsburgh that there is tension.

Nick Wright (34:30)

Oh.

Colin Cowherd (34:31)

Between ownership and Mike. Because they're hearing it from their fans. I mean, if you turn on sports radio in Pittsburgh, oh, yeah, they're not banging on TJ Watt or Aaron Rodgers. They're banging on Mike Tomlin again this year. So last year you could just say, well, Russell Wilson. No, it's, it's. How many years are they not going to be able to get the O line in the running game? Right. We're like on year seven or eight. Yeah.

Kelvin Washington (34:56)

Interesting, Colin. Well, when are you going to start turning the show over to the listeners? Because, hey, they're just like fans. They're unhappy with what's going on. Maybe you should listen to them instead of, you know, when I text you ideas and you're. Oh, I love that. You should listen to these jabronis online.

Colin Cowherd (35:10)

Who are like, coward.

Kelvin Washington (35:10)

Why do you talk about this so much? Well, that's what the Steelers would do. Move off Tomlin.

Rob Parker (35:15)

Are you.

Kelvin Washington (35:16)

That would be insane.

Colin Cowherd (35:17)

Well, again, they haven't won a playoff game in eight years.

Kelvin Washington (35:21)

Do you think that's totally his fault?

Colin Cowherd (35:23)

I think he's the coach. I mean, you can. You can. If the CEO has the bonuses, when the stock goes up, who are you going to blame when Starbucks goes sideways and earnings are down, it's the guy running it. It's not the founder, it's the CEO.

Kelvin Washington (35:37)

So that's interesting. He's, I think, the longest tenured coach in the league with the same team by. By like a mile.

Colin Cowherd (35:43)

Yeah.

Kelvin Washington (35:44)

So you're going to keep this gm? Why can't the GM just go to him and be like, mike, we're moving off this defense first strategy. Are you cool with that? And if Tomlin's like, no, then I think you got a case.

Nick Wright (35:55)

But moving.

Colin Cowherd (35:57)

If you're moving off defense and you're going to be an offensive organization, you trust Tomlin to run it.

Kelvin Washington (36:02)

Well, wait a minute. You trusted Arthur Smith and Aaron Rodgers when things were all awesome and they.

Colin Cowherd (36:07)

Were 5 and 1. I didn't think this was going to be a good. I said I didn't think it was a playoff. I said Aaron Rodgers should go to the Vikings or retire. I never liked.

Kelvin Washington (36:14)

Well, yeah, not you. I meant, like, they. They thought that Aaron Rodgers and Arthur Smith would work. And for a minute, it did.

Colin Cowherd (36:22)

Wow.

Kelvin Washington (36:22)

Moving off time, That's a huge story. Does he get a job instantly, by the way, if Pittsburgh kicks into the curb.

Colin Cowherd (36:28)

Yeah. Network tv in a heartbeat.

Kelvin Washington (36:31)

Wait, whoa, whoa, hold on. What about my New York Jets? I would move off Aaron Glenn in a, In a New York minute. If Mike Tomlin's like, yeah, I'll come.

Colin Cowherd (36:38)

Coach the Jets, I have no problem with Tomlin getting another job somewhere. No problem. Oh, man.

Kelvin Washington (36:43)

All right, let's go to the Chicago Bears. Colin, now, this is. Listen, this is going to be a tough one. I know they're. Let's start with the positive, okay? They're nine and three, number one seed in the nfc. They're in your backyard. You and Ben Johnson are probably going out for. For, you know, meals this, this time of week, but maybe you'll be shirtless like Ben. However, Caleb Williams, his goal was to complete 70% of his passes. He's not anywhere close to that. Ben Johnson said the streak happened in spite of the offense. Here we go.

Nick Wright (37:16)

Everybody's got a role to play to.

Colin Cowherd (37:18)

Get this pass game cleaned up.

Rob Parker (37:19)

It's not where it needs to be.

Colin Cowherd (37:20)

We're winning in spite of our passing game, not because of it. And none of us are pleased with that right now.

Kelvin Washington (37:27)

Now, this is a stat that's going around the interwebs today according to quarterbacks who have started more than seven games this year.

Colin Cowherd (37:35)

Yeah.

Kelvin Washington (37:35)

Caleb Williams is dead last in the NFL in completion percentage. Yeah, dead last, 58%. That's below Cam Ward.

Colin Cowherd (37:43)

Yeah.

Kelvin Washington (37:44)

That's below Dylan Gabriel.

Colin Cowherd (37:45)

Yeah. It's clearly an issue. Like, nobody let. You have to acknowledge the good stuff. But he is not accurate enough. I mean, it's. I mean, listen, he's got much better weapons and I would argue a better O line and a run game than Drake May. Drake May is completing 71%. Patriots can't run it. O Line had two starters missing left side. Don't have a number one. Diggs is more a number two now and he's completing the highest rate in the league. I'm not asking you to be that. You got to get the 62 or 63%. You got to get up. 58 is a backup quarterback and not a great backup.

Kelvin Washington (38:22)

I'm looking at some of like Bo Nix is at 61.

Rob Parker (38:25)

Right.

Kelvin Washington (38:27)

I would totally agree. So here's my question. Can, can Caleb make the leap? Remember Josh Allen the first couple years in Buffalo? Everybody uses this example. I think he's like 57.

Colin Cowherd (38:36)

I think he can get better. But I the knock I heard from the GMs who liked him. He's erratic throwing the ball. He's like a streak shooter in basketball. Those from the people that liked him, the ones that didn't like him said little moody, a little bit of an ego, don't like his accuracy. The ones that liked him noted his lack of consistent accuracy.

Kelvin Washington (38:58)

What's the ceiling for a team where the quarterback is dead last in the league in completion percentage?

Colin Cowherd (39:03)

You can make the playoffs, especially when you run like they do, but you're not going to, you know, remember, eventually he'll get paid and when you pay him that you're going to have to get rid of multi. Joe Tooney's not going to be on the team or a DJ more if you have to ever pay guys.

Kelvin Washington (39:16)

So you love to be forward thinking. Colin, what do the Bears do? At what point do you say, you know what, he's not going to be a 65 completion guy.

Colin Cowherd (39:23)

Let's, let's, let's let the season play out. Let's just, you win a couple playoff games, life will be really good because.

Kelvin Washington (39:32)

It'S fun spitballing who Ben Johnson could work with as a quarterback in Chicago. A couple guys out there, you know, there's a certain fella in Texas who does not love Houston, but let's, let's move on. Sorry to the Houston Texans fans. Final story. Colin, not really great news out of Indy. Sauce Gardner went down and they're calling it not an Achilles, but a calf injury. Calf injuries are very nettlesome. They can turn into Achilles injuries. It sounds like they're going to be very cautious with Sauce Gardner and he's unlikely to go against the Jags this week. I mentioned this earlier in the show. Colin talked about it on my podcast. There's a world where the Colts miss the playoffs. Okay, that division's tough. The schedule for Indy is really brutal. And all of a sudden, remember that Sauce Gardner deal was like, oh, jets will get pick late in the first round. If Indy misses that pick becomes like 18 or 19. This is, this is not good for Sauce Gardner and the Colts.

Colin Cowherd (40:35)

Yeah, I mean they rolled the dice. Daniel Jones was playing better. They were going into a stretch, five game stretch of facing a lot of teams with really good number one receivers. I understood it and I also thought Daniel Jones had kind of reached a point where you could be a consistent playoff team. He has regressed. So I mean it, it's Chris Ballard took a swing. I always back that. But right now look good for a week or two. Doesn't look good today. Let's let it play out.

Kelvin Washington (41:05)

And I'll add the Colts. I wonder if they made this move because Stingley is so good with the Texans. Did you see that? He was only targeted. I think he was on like he was on the field a lot. He was targeted once by the Colts. That's it. Once, one target. He's that good. Sauce could have been that guy for Indy, but I, I don't even know if he's going to return this season. They're saying no IR for now, which is potential goodness.

Colin Cowherd (41:26)

J Mac for the News well, that's the news and thanks for stopping by the Herd LIE news. Lane Kiffin already making news in Baton Rouge, Louisiana. Be sure to catch live editions of the Herd, weekdays at noon Eastern, 9am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, FS1 and the iHeartRadio app.

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Yeah, it's really interesting about Lane Kiffin. So I've always said this. Not every relationship I get involved with is long term. Not all of them end well. But I made the choice. I knowingly made the choice with any relationship I'm in. I vet everybody. So Ole Miss is either dumb or naive if they thought hiring Lane Kiffin couldn't end this way. You knew his track record. Saban's like, get out of here. USC fired him on a tarmac Tennessee. He bolts after a year. So you're either totally naive or childish. Run into airports screaming. I mean, I get it. They're kids. Couple hot toddies in. But you got to give me a break here. It's a better job. Lane Kiffin is a coach for hire. Have resume, have film, have recruiting talent, and that's what he does. So I don't have a lot of sympathy. You knowingly either didn't do your homework on him. And I, I, I know Lane, I like him, but I, I don't think he's for everybody. And you know, right now, I think LSU is paying three different coaches. Do your homework. They did. LSU is comfortable with it. LSU saying, we know we, we got some paperwork here if, if we fire him. LSU is kind of desperate. Lane Kiffin, I think, actually wanted to go to Florida. His, I mean, I really do. I, I think his wife is from there. But Florida's athletic director, who, by the way, I recommended for the USC job five years ago, I think he was in Northwestern. Florida's AD doesn't really like Kiffin. So Florida could have had Kiffin and Florida could have had Kiffin and a better resume than who they hired. But Florida said we're not comfortable with Lane. LSU said we are comfortable with Lane. Ole Miss said we are comfortable with Lane. Don't tell me you don't know what you're getting. Florida's ad, who's probably the best first or second guy at Bama's? Great. First or second best AD in the sec. So is the guy Texas. Okay. It's a good AD conference. Florida can have Kiffin. Kiffin, I think, would have preferred Florida. They're like, yeah, he's not our. We don't want that drama. Ole Ms. And LSU signed up for it. No sympathy. Lane Kiffin yesterday on if money was a factor going to lsu. I'm never going to make a decision.

Nick Wright (48:23)

On money and I'm telling you right.

Colin Cowherd (48:26)

Now, I don't know what my contract is here. That's not very financially responsible. Okay? I'm sure it's really good. Okay. I don't know what it is. Nor did I know at the other.

Nick Wright (48:38)

Places what the numbers were. Because I said in the beginning, I.

Colin Cowherd (48:42)

Told Jimmy Sexton, don't tell me the numbers, okay? I want to make a decision that has nothing to do with money. Now tell me the numbers in the plan for what the money is for the players, because that's everything in that area to me. Yeah, he's right, by the way. He's saying all the right stuff. But, you know, don't marry the rock star and then be upset when he goes, yeah, honey, I gotta go on the road for a tour for six months. You knew what you were marrying. So did Ole Miss, so does LSU and Florida could have had Kiffin. And their AD who's really sharp's like, I don't want the drama because you do get drama with him. I think he's going to succeed. I think it's going to be a home run. I can't wait. I love college football. It won't take long. In fact, he'll do it quicker than Brian Kelly did at Notre Dame and quicker than Harbaugh did at Michigan. Not because he's a better coach, because LSU is just in this geographical footprint. Louisiana, Bama, Georgia, Florida, they're going to sign. I mean, there is so much unbelievable high school football talent in that area. And, and, and the other thing Kiffin said, he goes, it's the best job in college football. I will tell you, a lot of people think that. I have talked to multiple coaches. Brian Kelly knew he didn't want to go down to Baton Rouge. That's not where he's from. Brian Kelly knew he wanted to golf and not recruit. Brian Kelly went down there because he thought he could put in 45 hour weeks and win a natty and you can't. You just can't. But Brian Kelly knew it wasn't a great fit. Brian Kelly's like, it's a lot of money. Lane Kiffin's a great recruiter. Brian Kelly at this point isn't. Lane Kiffin, I think is a better offensive coach than Brian Kelly. I think he's going to crush and I, I like, he's fun to be around. He's got great stories, good sense of humor. I know his wife, don't know his kids. He's smart enough to say all the right stuff and he is right. It's all about what kind of roster can you build. But I don't have a lot of sympathy for people who marry people with a very clear track record. I mean, one thing, you know, you marry the pastor and it goes sideways. You know, I mean, you know, you marry, you marry somebody that has a track record of just, you know, oh, this is the nicest guy in the neighborhood. And then, you know, he's out floundering around. You know, some of these coaches, we all know the game. We all know the game. I love Saban. Saban said, I don't know how many times I have to tell you, I'm not taking the Alabama job. That was his quote. All right, Jim Harbaugh's around the corner. That's always fun. PCs powered by Snapdragon X Elite processors are made to go the distance with blazing fast performance, next level efficiency and multi day battery life. Snapdragon processors are built to tackle it all, from highlight reel editing to intense player research so you can be at the top of your game wherever the day takes you. Learn more@snapdragon.com laptops Snapdragon the heart of your PC. Battery life varies significantly based on device settings, usage and other factors.

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