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The Herd with Colin Cowherd
THE HERD - Hour 2 - NFL Mock Drafts, Victor Wembanyama becoming the face of the league, Joel Klatt
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Colin Cowherd
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Joel Klatt
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Colin Cowherd
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Joel Klatten, A couple minutes. Kenny Albert was the voice of Olympic Hockey on NBC. And after. After they won the gold, he had 438 texts. And the Albert families, I mean, they've got a lot of Steve Albert and Marv Albert and Kenny Albert. And I'm probably missing somebody. I thought he did a great job. I played tennis with him once. One of the nicest guys out there. Just salt of the earth. Dad's a legend and he's just a great kid and does just. Just kind of gets out of the way and lets, you know, hockey moves so fast. And Kevin Burkhart has this quality. He's great, but gets out of the way and lets the crowd play into it. The analysts play into it. And it's a very collaborative effort. And Kenny did a great job. But that's funny. I've had, like, days where I got 28 and I was overwhelmed. He got 438 texts. Here's another thing. Tomorrow's show is gonna freak you out because I know the first time I saw what I'm gonna let you see tomorrow freaked me out. So if you pick one show, and I hope you pick more than one show, but if you pick one show to watch this week, it would be tomorrow's show. And if you do only watch one show this week, then you're not listening now. And you'll be very, very fortunate because I'm going to unveil something. Been working on this thing for at least. At least nine months. When was I shown? Yeah, it's like nine months. It is. It's techy, it's futuristic. It is maybe the end of my career, whatever that is, on tomorrow's show in the second hour. And that's all I'm going to say. Something happened last night, I'll tell you. We were talking about Wemby last hour. And I don't think the NBA needs a face of the league to be popular. I think it's an overused term. I think there's only been five or six in my life. I don't even think Kareem or Wilt were the face of the league. I think Magic Johnson was. I think Michael Jordan was LeBron, Steph Curry, but a lot of great players. I don't. Tim Duncan wasn't. I don't think Kobe was ever the face of the league. I don't even know if Shaq was. Maybe Shaq was for a year or two. But like Wemby, last night is a great example of being multifaceted. He last night was three for 12 from the field through three quarters and was plus 11. I mean he, last night he is separating from the other good player, great players in this league like Luka and SGA and Jalen Brunson. Last night he's separating. Last night he had 17 rebounds, six blocks, four assists, didn't really score until late and dominated the game. And he was the best prospect since LeBron James. When he came out and I mean all the scouts were saying there's nothing out there quite like him. And what is this year four in the league. And you know, he came in with like minute restrict Year 3 in the league minute restrictions which was very smart game restrictions. You know, they want to build up his strength. I'm not going to throw him 82 games. He is. Last night he played a very good Detroit team. Now Detroit's young, so San Antonio, Detroit's young and they don't have a lot of scoring threats from the outside. So they have to score at the basket. Well, good luck with Wemby. That's not going to happen. So he just dominates the game last night and it doesn't and struggled offensively, but I mean he is, he is really separating from almost every player in the league not named Jokic. And I love SGA and we all know Luke is good and Brunson's good and harden all these guys, they can't dominate a game and not. And not have the ball in their hands. He is so multifaceted and just shutting down. A really good Detroit team is, you know, a team that has blasted a lot of the best teams in the league. And here's Wemby after his offensive struggle. But a win second half was pretty satisfying defensively and yeah, indeed tough tonight. I mean this, this is what they do, you know, if they don't want scored, they're not gonna let you score. And this is when. This is why I was also talking about progression because everybody was connected tonight. Everybody got to eat tonight, you know, because we were so connected and because we were trying to fight against the wall the whole game. Yeah, it's Detroit needs another elite score next to Cade Cunningham and they're really young. They're too young to win a title. They're not deep enough offensively to win a title. They're half court offense kind of Average San Antonio is a bad matchup for them, and there's no getting around that. They're not a great matchup for them. But Wemby's just. It is crazy how he can not score and totally control a game. Well, college football used to be controlled down south. But I was looking at Daniel Jeremiah's mock draft. In his first 20 picks, he had two SEC players. No bigs, no defensive tackles, no defensive ends, no dominant offensive tackles. He had two perimeter corners, one lsu, who's really good, and one at Tennessee is pretty good. And with that, Joel Clad is now joining us. And Joel Clad and I, people will say you guys are very pro Big Ten. Well, you know what? I think we're very pro facts. And I'm looking at the mock drafts and it's incredible. First of all, tip of the cap to Miami because Mario. Yeah, crystal ball. Miami guys all over the first round. There's Utah guys, Kyle Whittingham in the first round. When you look at this first round, this is Daniel Jeremiah's, and we'll have yours as well. But I think we can officially say it, and we cannot say it with snark. We can just say it factually. Is three straight natties favored potentially to win a four? This draft is top 20 player. I mean, look at your. And you're more favorable to the sec, but there's something you cannot deny. Looking at this draft, Miami and the Big Ten simply have more good players.
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Joel Klatt
Yeah, I mean, listen, I was pretty favorable to the sec. I think that there's going to be a couple of guys that get favorable grades in particular from the combine. But even, even then, in my first round, in my mock 1.0, I had 10 players from the Big Ten in the first round and only nine from the SEC. That's obviously a vast difference than what we saw in the late 2000. You know, teens, you know, 17, 18, 19, when it was just SEC littered with the SEC in the NFL. Now, aside from that, here's what I find interesting is that you, you bring up the bigs. And that's something that I want to sit on really quickly. Because when you look at bigs, what you see is, is that you got defensive tackle from, from Ohio State in there. You've got all these bigs from Miami. You've got Maui Noah, the tackle, probably a top three pick, maybe top five pick. You've got Utah, maybe two first round offensive tackles. And so you're right. When you sit there and you look at the bigs and then even the skill if you look at the best skill on the board, best running back, Notre Dame, best wide receiver, a debate between Carnell Tate and Makai Lemon, both from the Big Ten. So even the skill is sitting outside of that footprint, which is something that we haven't seen in a long time.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah, it's. And that's why I've said I think Lane Kiffin's interesting and he'll make LSU fun, but there are no more guarantees. I mean, it just. I'm sorry, but the nil and the transfer portal has changed the world. So give me your thoughts on Fernando Mendoza. Quarterback is a really hard position to evaluate because so much of it is like. Like Ty Simpson just hasn't played much college football. Like the number of starts can end up being hugely rewarding or problematic. I think my takeaway on Mendoza is as great as Kurt Signetti is they lose three games minimum without Mendoza. They're not beating Miami, Ohio State, and they're not beating Penn State. Minimum. Iowa and Oregon are up for debate. How do you view him? How transcendent? How normal? Where do you. Where do you put him?
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Joel Klatt
So there's.
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Colin Cowherd
There's.
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Joel Klatt
To me, there's this line that you have to. And this is all players, but more specifically for a quarterback. Does he translate regardless of fit?
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Colin Cowherd
I call it.
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Joel Klatt
Are you an above the X's and O's player? You know, where. It just doesn't. It doesn't matter. I think it's incredibly difficult to find those players and it's more specifically difficult to find them at the quarterback position. The last guy that I can remember at the quarterback position, that was just. Regardless of where he went, organizational structure, X's and O's was Andrew Luck. Yeah, I thought he was the most. Can't miss. Just take him and you'll be fine. And that was the case. Mendoza doesn't quite cross that line. Which is fine. Which is fine. So I do think. I think that fit still matters.
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Colin Cowherd
However.
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Joel Klatt
However, I'm a huge believer that with all of this skill and you can run around and you can do a lot of different things, but even Patrick Mahomes and every single quarterback that has to go and win a Super bowl and win big playoff games has to own the game from the pocket. You have to do that in the National Football League. You cannot run your run around yourself into a Super Bowl. I don't think that that happens. And when you look at Mendoza and his. His best performances and his most clutch performances and the most important parts of the season, what was he doing? Colin Making huge throws from the pocket. Third downs, fourth downs on the road. Iowa, Oregon, Penn State, Big Ten championship game, Ohio State, Natty, Miami. What was he doing late in the game, late in the down sequence, making throws from the pocket? I think he's accurate. Reminds me a little bit of Michael Pennix and his accuracy in the vein of. He's a leverage thrower. Let me tell you what I mean by leverage thrower. A lot of people talk about 50, 50 situations, contested catches, right? We talk about that all the time with wide receivers. And yet Colin, the best quarterbacks never throw 50, 50 balls. They're always putting the percentage in the wide receivers advantage because of the leverage that they throw with from a ball position and ball placement standpoint. Well, he does that every time he throws the ball outside to Charlie Becker or Elijah Surratt or Omar Cooper. He's giving them the advantage because it's away from the defender, whether it's down the field or in the middle or on the does that. And for those two reasons, owning it from the pocket in big moments and being an anticipatory leverage thrower, I think that this guy is, I don't want to say can't miss, but man, I, I think he's absolutely going to succeed in the National Football League.
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Colin Cowherd
So you put out a top 10 college football coaches list this week and it got some pushback. It, nothing jumped out to me. I, I kind of thought it was, it made a lot of sense to me. I do think Lane Kiffin, you had him at 10, is very interesting and really leans into social media and so. But I will say when he left Ole Miss, they were still very, very good. The one we all, we all talked about was Steve Sarkeesian at number six. I love Sark. Yeah, but I said before in close games, he gets wacky. In close games I don't always trust him. And in close games, sometimes Sark's teams aren't perfectly buttoned up for anybody that would look at your list. And by the way, for the radio audience it goes Kurt Signetti, Ryan Day, Kirby Smart, Dan Lanning, Marcus Freeman. I mean, listen, they're all great. Sar. Kyle Whittingham, the young man at BYU who I didn't even know until he took the job at byu. He's been a big hit. Kiffin, crystal ball. I don't have a problem with any of it. I really don't. Is it Kalani Sataki, the coach for byu?
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Joel Klatt
Yeah, yeah, I mean, that's right.
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Colin Cowherd
He's, he is, he's been A huge hit for them.
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Joel Klatt
Yeah, Penn State wanted him badly, almost had him and he stayed at byu. But your point about Sark is, how
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Colin Cowherd
do you view Sark when people say, come on, hey, clap. He's got Texas resources. Clap. Give me a break. He doesn't win the big game.
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Joel Klatt
I would say, why wasn't Texas Texas before Steve Sarkeesian got there? You know, and so like they had one 10 win season in the 11 and basically the decade before he got there and now He's a perennial 10 win team now. Did they underperform this last year? Yeah, they were preseason number one. They had the Heisman Trophy favorite and, and they faltered. I think it was mostly because he missed on the edge at wide receiver and they didn't rebuild their offensive line. I thought that was the bigger issue other than Arch didn't pan out. I mean that's. To me that was an overblown narrative. Here's what I said during the episode and I would encourage everyone to go check it out. You can check it out on YouTube at Joel Clash show. But the column. The thing about Sark is I could make the argument that he should be higher than six because he's one of the best game day, game planning, play callers in college football. He's just been to two national semifinals and was a play from playing for the national championship in each of those games. Did not get run out of the building even by the eventual national champion Ohio State. Those were great phenomenal football games. You could also make the argument that he should be lower because he underperformed based on expectations last year. So he was, I thought, the most difficult ranking and that's why I put him right in the middle. I put Marcus Freeman ahead of him because Freeman has gotten to the national championship game and Sark right behind him. So that's why it was 5 and 6 right there. Again, I think you can make the argument Sarkeesian should be lower. I think that you can make the argument he could be higher and that's why he put him right there at six. I think he's fantastic. And if you were also real quickly, my top three of all one national championships, Dabo hasn't done anything recently, so that's why he's not in the top 10. My next three, Dan Lanning, Marcus Freeman, Steve Sarkeesian, those are the guys that I would bet on most likely to to win a national championship in the next two or three years.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah. By the way, you know, not that it's a big topic, but Dabo is Kind of going into the transfer portal. Now he's doing a Mike Shashevsky where he's like, yeah, I'm getting beat by guys who are in the portal. I think I'm going to spend some money on the portal.
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Joel Klatt
But the problem is, is Dabo is doing it. Like. Like, I get in a swimming pool.
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Colin Cowherd
I hate cold.
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Joel Klatt
Like, I cannot stand getting in a swimming pool. You know, it's like, I know I'm going to get in there.
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Colin Cowherd
My boys are like, come on, dad, like, get in it.
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Joel Klatt
And I'm like, tiptoeing in.
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Colin Cowherd
And then I get in, I'm like, oh, it's cold.
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Joel Klatt
This is terrible. That's Dabo with the transfer portal. He's, like, reluctantly dipping his toe in. And now he's in and he's like, this is awful. It's cold in here.
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Colin Cowherd
There's tampering all over the place. It's like, yeah, yeah, Dabo.
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Joel Klatt
That's the case.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah. I also think Texas, I've always said college football, has three glamour programs. Texas, USC and Miami. They're glamour programs, meaning Miami, Coral Gables, Louisiana and Austin. They're music centers. They're cool cities. They're kind of international. There's a lot going on. There's a lot of distractions. Hard to be.
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Joel Klatt
You're not saying that they're the most premium brand. You're not saying premium brands. You're just saying glamour from a. Okay, I see what you say.
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Colin Cowherd
I'm saying glamorous. USC and Texas.
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Joel Klatt
Yeah, yeah.
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Colin Cowherd
Have unique collegiate challenges, even in the NFL. I've had GMs tell me this. If you're in a port city, maturity matters on the players you draft. Like Miami, New Orleans, la. Those are port cities. Port cities. There's a lot more action at night. There's a lot of stuff going on at night in New York, New Orleans. Miami, Louisiana. They're port cities. And so my take is Miami, USC and Texas, they have these unique challenges. It's hard. You get distracted very easily. Austin, Coral Gables in LA. So, I mean, USC is still trying to get back into the top 10. It's not as easy as. And so my take is Texas. People just go, oh, a state school. Texas, lot of money, easy to get. Texas got a lot of donors with a lot of money and a lot of opinions.
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Joel Klatt
I would say this. I think that you're absolutely right, except it's not because of the distractions for the players. It's because of how many power brokers are in that city that want their hand in the program. There's too many cooks in the kitchen at all of those places. And that's. So that's why, you know, the power brokers at Texas choked that program out for a decade. Usc, the same thing. They had a lack of leadership, and everybody was in there and they all wanted power. Miami, similar, you know, people all around the program, you know, made it difficult. And it wasn't until those programs. And we'll see if Lincoln Riley can do it. I think it's a big year for him and I. By the way, I think USC is going to be really good next year. But it took Mario Crispball, strong leader. It took Steve Sarkeesian, a strong leader, to come in and. And what I would say, like, be the adult in the room amongst all the people striving for power at those places in order to write the ship and kind of get them back to where they wanted to be.
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Colin Cowherd
All right, that's good. Do you have your mock draft? Do we have.
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Joel Klatt
Let's.
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Colin Cowherd
Let's throw his mock draft.
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Joel Klatt
Yeah.
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Colin Cowherd
Let me see. Nothing bothered me. I thought it was reasonable.
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Joel Klatt
I mean, I love that your standard is like, does anything bother me about what Clat puts out?
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Colin Cowherd
No, it's not. I like. I like. You have size. I like, I like. I like the Miami guys a lot. I really liked watching that program this year. They. They were nasty at the end of the year. Then you got the Utah. I don't have a problem. Caleb Downs at 12. Cowboys would be lucky to get Caleb down. They would be lucky.
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Joel Klatt
I just. I couldn't get him off the board. I think he's probably the best defender. And then here's the other one that I think is fascinating. And I went all the way to the Chiefs with Jeremiah Love. But where does Love go? I. I think he's a fast. He's a wonderful player, man.
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Colin Cowherd
He's got.
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Joel Klatt
I think he feel exactly 100. He's a Jameer Gibbs, maybe McCaffrey home run hitter that can catch it and play every down. Like those guys don't grow on trees. So Jeremiah Love is an interesting one to me, man.
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Colin Cowherd
You go look at the first round. There's a reason Miami got to the national championship. That's exactly right. I got dudes.
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Joel Klatt
You got dudes.
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Colin Cowherd
Good seeing you, buddy. You as well.
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Joel Klatt
Have a good one, dude.
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Colin Cowherd
All right. And again, a reminder, tomorrow show will be a cross between futuristic and terrifying. And I'm going to give you a glimpse of something and you're not quite going to be totally comfortable with it. And I'm not sure if I am but you know, that's, that's the way we roll here.
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J. Mac
Hey Colin, real quick. I'm sorry to interrupt the clatt list of the top coaches in college football. I don't know if we can get it on the screen. I almost fell out of my chair when I saw the BYU coach in the top 10. Now you referenced it. He's good. Is he the eighth best coach in college football?
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Colin Cowherd
Well, I think, I think when you look at the challenges sometimes with byu. He's been a home run. He's been a home run. Dabo Swinney would be in my top 10 but Dabos and this is something Mike Krzyzewski learned be very. This is not an era in sports internationally to be rigid.
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J. Mac
Right.
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Colin Cowherd
Like this is. This is why this era. Bobby Knight had success in the 70s and 80s. The late Bobby Knight, he would not work in sports today. You've got to be so willing to pivot and be fluid and make changes. Like Rick Pitino says, you can sit and complain about nil and transfer portal. It's like complaining about AI or you can work with it. Yeah, you can sit and complain about a. I'm going to lose my job or spend some time on chat GPT try to figure it out.
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J. Mac
Well, so this list is great. This is a great summer topic. I mean listen, Mario Crystal Ball has built. He got Cam Ward there last year. He goes to the national championship and he's ninth. I love Kyle Winningham. Great regular season coach. What are we doing here? I mean I'm floored by this list. Absolutely. I was gobsmacked by. I like circ a lot. He's been to some, some playoffs. Mario Crystal Ball 9.
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Colin Cowherd
I tell you a guy I'd have
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J. Mac
all get to a playoff anything.
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Colin Cowherd
Kalin DeBoer would be on my list.
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J. Mac
An amazing coach. Yeah, listen, this is going to people. If people see this they're going to be ticked off. Like I know Sweeney's your guy and all you guys have a Columbia Sataki
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Colin Cowherd
at BYU in the last two years is 23 and 4.
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J. Mac
Awesome. Great. That's outstanding. Can I get more than a two year sample? What do you want to go back five years? Ten? I just. There's a. There's a lot here and Signetti racing to one is kind of sort of fascinating. But go off Klatt, you know.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah, I think,
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J. Mac
I think you need to do your version of this list in like a month or two because this has me kind of sort of fired up and when the phone is buzzing, like what, what is Clack doing? You know, from college football fans.
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Colin Cowherd
I don't have a problem with the top five. I'd have the order a little different.
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J. Mac
I would as well.
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Colin Cowherd
I think you have to be fair to Kirby Smart. I mean, Kirby Smart is struggling to keep due to nil issues. He's struggling. People think Georgia. Oh, it's right by Atlanta. Big money in Atlanta, believe it or not, does not lean into Georgia football. They got pro sports. Yeah. So they've lost a lot of players because they can't afford them. So I think Kirby Smart is. Got an argument. Number one, I would go Ryan day two. You know, listen, I like Kurt Signetti, but they would have lost four games minimum three games. Minimum five games. Possible.
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J. Mac
Yeah.
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Colin Cowherd
Without Mendoza. The year before, it was a lot of fool's gold where they got into the playoff and they were like punting from midfield, down two touchdowns, like they didn't have any smoke offensively. So I'm not saying like, I think Indiana this year is going to lose multiple games.
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J. Mac
Yeah, I, I, I love Signetti. He can't be number one.
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Colin Cowherd
Guys. I agree.
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J. Mac
Two great years. Lanning and Freeman for the last like four years have been utterly dominant in.
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Colin Cowherd
Ask yourself this. If you were an athletic director today and you had to hire a head coach. I've said this before, I would hire, I think Marcus Freeman.
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Joel Klatt
Yeah.
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Colin Cowherd
Is who I would hire. I think he's a relentless recruiter. Very current NFL teams and GMs are looking at him.
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J. Mac
Landing would have to be two. Right. I mean, come on. Landings said day would be two or three.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah, I would. If I was going to hire a coach, Freeman would be number one and then the rest of them would get in line.
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J. Mac
I, yeah, I mean, with the recency bias for Signetti and I love Signetti, obviously he's been amazing, you know, but this list was, I was like, holy smokes.
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Colin Cowherd
Well, that's, you know, that's, that's, you know, we bring flat on the show
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J. Mac
four minutes of absolute fire there.
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Colin Cowherd
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J. Mac
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Colin Cowherd
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J. Mac
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Colin Cowherd
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Joel Klatt
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Colin Cowherd
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Joel Klatt
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Colin Cowherd
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Colin Cowherd
Kyle Van Noy, Sam Darnold joining us next hour. Tomorrow at this time we introduce something that it may scare the pets and the children in your house, so you just have to be ready for it. The family's gonna need to sit down in front of the tv. You may want to pull over on the side of the road as we introduce it, but that will be tomorrow on the show Jay Mack with the news no, no, no. Turn on the news.
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J. Mac
This is the Herd line news. Let's start with one of your best friends in the NFL, Colin Max Crosby. That's your guy. I can't wait for you to get a matching Raiders tattoo. Oh wait, he could be on the move. GM John Spytek made it clear. Okay. Made it clear. He expects Crosby to be a Raider in 2026. That's the very latest from the Raiders. I don't know about you Colin, but if I can get two, two ones or a one and a two. A high two for Crosby, I'm taking it now and I'm running. I mean you're selling high on a superstar edge rusher, remember?
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Colin Cowherd
Go look. Our staff should look this up. Go look at how many draft picks the Raiders have. Multiple. I believe they have multiple fours, multiple fives. The Raiders can afford Max Crosby. Let's just start with that. He's an elite player. They drafted him. He's over delivered. He was a fourth round pick. He's over delivered. Yes they have. So they're going to get their quarterback with the first pick and not have to pay pay them for four to five years. Okay, so you're the most expensive position. They're going to get a discount for four years. They also have a second, a third multiple. I think they have. They have two, two or huh.
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J. Mac
10 picks. They just told me 10.
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Colin Cowherd
So if seven of the 10 picks, let's say seven to eight make the roster for the next two years that is a lot of. And they have a lot of mid round picks like multiple fours, multiple fives and then some late round picks, multiple six. The Raider and the Raiders don't have a stack roster. Giving it. You're not. This isn't the Rams or the Eagles where it's harder for a fifth round pick to make the roster. It's stacked. So my take is the Ross. The Raiders are going to have 10 picks. They may they could move down and get more. They're going to have so many and last year I thought they had a pretty solid draft. They can afford Max Crosby. They're not paying any. They're not paying a receiver. They're not paying Brock Bowers. They're not paying Genty. They're only paying Colton Miller on the offensive line. Their best interior lineman they drafted out of Oregon two years ago. They don't need to get rid of Crosby. They got nothing but cheap labor everywhere.
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J. Mac
So Colin, I like to use this analogy often. I want bites at the apple if I can get a first round pick and a second round pick. That's like top 40ish for Max. I'm taking it and running. You're not getting the Micah Parsons deal. I'm sorry, he was much younger than Max Crosby. But Colin, it's like when you go to a bar and you're a young guy. If you talk to 15 girls, you might get three or four numbers. If you talk to like three girls, maybe you get one. It's a numbers game. It's the same deal with the draft. They're not winning anything with Max Crosby. You And I said two years ago, get off T.J. watt, Pittsburgh, just move on.
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Colin Cowherd
There's not.
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J. Mac
They did not. I said this with Miles Garrett. What are we doing? Miles Garrett's awesome. But Colin, they're not winning anything.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah, but you're. You're conflating two different things. You're saying they're not winning with Max Crosby. That's not Max Crosby.
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J. Mac
No, it's not his fault.
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Colin Cowherd
That's right. So you don't get rid of somebody. I mean, hell, even quarterback is reliant on protection and coaching and weapons and a run game to win games don't conflate two different issues. They're not winning. Let's get rid of Max. No, they're not winning. And Max is easily their best player. You're in the business of drafting, developing and paying stars. Why would I let the second best pass rusher in the league go? He's going to have a huge second now.
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J. Mac
He's second behind Myles Garrett.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah, but here's the thing. Yes. In my opinion. So here's my take. GMs have told me this through the years. You don't want that many draft picks. I don't want more draft picks. What I want is more great players. Who won the Super Bowl. Seattle, they got like seven great players. Okay, what I. What I don't want 10 draft picks is probably. I would give them. If I was the Raiders, I would give up two fives and a six to get another fourth or third round pick. You don't want to be too young. So one of the only veterans that delivers for them is Colton Miller, the left tackle. Yeah. Max Crosby, the Russian. That's two of their only veteran guys that actually deliver. Why would I get rid of one of them?
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J. Mac
I mean, I like your strategy of draft develop and pay. They did that with Max. Now he's entering his late 20s, almost 30. I just, I don't see the upside of having him. I mean, maybe you want a leader in the locker room. But, man, I'm just. Those picks could be used to build the Seattle type.
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Colin Cowherd
You're in a division with Mahomes, Herbert and Bo Nix. You don't think there's value in the best rush end in the division.
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J. Mac
I don't think they're competing next year. And then you waste another year of Max being a star. All right, let's move on to Tyreek Hill. Colin, interesting scenario unfolding where he is on the market. Anybody can go get him. He's probably not healthy, all coming off the injuries, but you remember the honey Badger, Tyron Matthew? He believes a reunion between Tyreek Hill and the Chiefs makes sense.
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Colin Cowherd
Me and him left the Chiefs at the same time. Right. And you know, I think when we left the Chiefs, people didn't really. They didn't feel the loss of Tyron Matthew and Tyreek Hill because they went to Super Bowl. Right. Yeah. And one of the things that, like I said, impressed me the most with Tyreek was he was just like me. Like, he a football player. He don't miss practice. Right. Like he gonna take all his reps. He don't miss no games. And I think given what the Chiefs have sort of experienced the last three years at the wide receiver position, he may be the next best teacher for them.
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J. Mac
Yeah, good luck with that. She, Rice, Tyreek Hill.
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Colin Cowherd
I'm not a big.
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J. Mac
There's some nicknames floating around for that new wide receiver crew, huh?
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Colin Cowherd
I don't.
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J. Mac
They're not good. Anyways, I don't want to. I don't want to bash the Chiefs anymore. I know KC fans had a long off season so far, and they're still over the cap. Anyways, let's go to the NBA. Colin. Where? I don't know. I guess newly retired point guard Chris Paul, who has always been just an angry guy, he was asked, Colin, who the best point guard in the league is. Okay.
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Colin Cowherd
Okay.
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J. Mac
I mean, you know some of the best point guards in the. In the NBA right now.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah. Yeah.
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J. Mac
Well, here's Chris Paul giving the answer with no hesitation.
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Colin Cowherd
Luka Doncic versus Shay Gilgames Alexander. Who runs the one? Shay. Oh, you didn't even think about that. It says Shay, but he just loved to be in the gym. Love to be in the gym. He gonna do all the work and taking care of his body. So you ain't gotta be a lockdown defender or whatnot, but when you playing defense for your team, your teammates just want to see that the stars actually try. Actually try on defense. I got a lot of respect for Steph Shai and all these guys who at least try on the defensive end, because that's part of it and that's what your teammates want to see. Finally, somebody says that this is what players have been talking about. This is why I've been more critical of Luka. Sga, there's an argument that he's not a terrible defender. He's the worst on okc, but they have like seven elite defenders. And the truth is about Luca, Chris Paul's telling you, you don't have to be a great defender. You gotta have effort on the defensive end. SGA is not great. He gets pushed around, but he gives you effort. And so again, one of the things that you can't deny with Luca, he no longer dunks. Did that worry a little bit.
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J. Mac
So first of all, the MC of this event, whoever that guy is, should have been like to Chris Paul. What are you saying? Luca doesn't try on defense because that's what he was insinuating.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah.
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J. Mac
Now, I'm sure Chris Paul would have backed off that, but it is weird. You know Chris Paul is boys with LeBron James, right?
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah.
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J. Mac
You think Chris and LeBron maybe have had some discussions, and LeBron's telling Chris he don't try on defense. He's not in the gym.
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Joel Klatt
Well, you don't.
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Colin Cowherd
He doesn't have to tell him. Everybody in the players talk. Everybody in the league knows it.
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J. Mac
So, you know, as TV pundits, we have our guys. We like. One of your guys is coming up in an hour. I think we have a countdown on the screen for Sam Darnold. Luka is one of my guys. I'm not going to stand for the slander. This is. This is really getting. I feel like it's personal because I'm
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Colin Cowherd
a Luca guy, that we're a year into this experiment and it still isn't right.
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J. Mac
Well, Colin, remember, this team was built for AD and LeBron. They were built for that. The contracts, everything lined up. And then LeBron said, oh, we're going to hand. This is going to be AD's team. That was like a big talking point on the show. And then they trade AD for Luka. You can't just turn the Titanic around instantly. It takes a year. I think this is the pivotal off season. And LeBron's contract comes off the books. The Lakers have the most cap space in the league. This is the off season. They go for Giannis. If that fails, plan B better be good. But you, you build Luka what he needs. Rome was not built in a day. Colin, come on, man. I can't believe you're hating on Luca.
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Colin Cowherd
I think Rome was done faster than the Luca. LeBron Austin. Reeves Troika is working. J. Mac with the news.
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J. Mac
Well, that's the news, and thanks for stopping by.
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Colin Cowherd
The Herd Line news. Sam Darnold next hour. See if you're loyal in life. You know, people. People want to be in your orbit. So we get Sam Darnold in about an hour from now in Chicago, it's the Herd. Be sure to catch live editions of the Herd, weekdays at noon Eastern, 9am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, FS1, and the iHeartRadio app. All right, two truths and a lie. Here we go. I went to college with college football coach Jim McElwaine. I began my broadcasting career doing play by play for the Las Vegas Stars. And I've been a Verizon customer for 15 years. Okay, I lied. All three are true. Verizon isn't as expensive as you think. In fact, if you bring in your ATT or T Mobile bill to a Verizon store, they'll give you a better deal. That's right, a better deal on the best network with the most ways to save on plans, streaming and phone deals. So take that AT and T or T Mobile bill to your local Verizon store today. Get a better deal and start saving based on root metrics. Best overall Mobile Network Performance U.S. 2nd Half 2025 All Rights Reserve must provide recent consumer mobile bill in the name of the person redeeming the deal. Additional terms, conditions and restrictions apply. Awkward time to ask this, but. Hey, did you download the trail map? Yeah, no, I don't need to. I don't understand. You're trusting your signal out here.
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Joel Klatt
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I'm reading a story about multiple teams in college football. LSU, Texas have crossed the $40 million threshold with NIL. And I've been hearing this for years. It is not sustainable. It's like, people have been telling me that about the debt my entire life. It is not sustainable. Well, it is if our GDP grows, our economy's growing. If the economy grows, we can handle debt. Europe's bigger issue. Their economy's not growing at the speed of ours, so they can handle less debt. So, you know, I hear this all the time. Oh, I have found in my life when people say something it's not sustainable. It all comes down to one basic question. How much do we love it? If we love something, it's sustainable. People find money. Companies find money, Universities find money. If they care. And at Texas, they won a national championship. These billionaires have never had more chips stacked. And they're like, yeah, I'll give you another $7 million check. I mean, Mark Cuban sold the Mavericks and made like $380 billion or something. Insane. That's what he sold them for. How much he got, I don't know after taxes, but he wrote a massive check. Like, is that the last check that Mark Cuban could afford? We are exploding in this country with billionaires and hundred millionaires. In fact, the other. A couple weeks ago, I have a friend that lives down on the coast of Florida and I got a little email from him and he said, oh, he goes, you know, it's so expensive down here. And I'm thinking, yeah, Florida's coast has always been expensive. And I went to like realtor.com and I, I priced the most expensive homes in, in like West Palm Beach. I just wanted to see what they were. I was like 10 homes in. It was still 100 million. It's like, and I'm told the debt's a problem. AI is going to displace jobs. Europe's falling apart. And I'm like, it. There was not that many hundred million dollar homes in West Palm beach three years ago. So. But people like the water, they like the beach. They like Florida. They like no state taxes. They like the less, you know, fewer regulations. So Miami's become a massive tech hub. And a lot of rich people internationally are Moving there. If you love something, it's sustainable in America. We'll find money. So I read all these nil stories that Everybody's just like, $40 million. Couple years ago, Ohio State spent 20, and all I heard was, that is not sustainable. Now we're at 40, USC spending 30, and they're building a $300 million facility and they're paying Lincoln Riley $80 million on a contract. It's LA. They'll find money. That's all I know. In Georgia, very few things are bigger than Georgia Bulldog football. They're going to end up finding 25 million a year. That's what they're going to do. Joel Klatt was on earlier. We talked about Fernando Mendoza, the prospect. Is he Andrew Luck? No, but Klatt thinks very highly of him.
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Joel Klatt
Every single quarterback that has to go and win a Super bowl and win big playoff games has to own the
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Colin Cowherd
game from the pocket.
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Joel Klatt
You have to do that in the National Football League. You cannot run your run around yourself into a Super Bowl. I don't think that that happens. And when you look at Mendoza and his. His best performances and his most clutch performances and the most important parts of the season, what was he doing? Colin? Making huge throws from the pocket?
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah, I like him. He's a little stiff, according to all the NFL people I talked to. Little stiff. I don't think it gets in the way of his game. He's like Matt Ryan plus. But I wouldn't get rid of Max Crosby. They have a ton of draft picks. I would. You know, my theory on this whole thing is do what the Seahawks do. Keep your defense really young, draft well. And if you have to spend money, spend it on a star receiver, a quarterback, a left tackle, maybe a center. I just, you know, I just saw today the list of the top free agents available in the NFL. And, like, number four was the Raven center from Iowa, Tyler Lindebaum. And my take was, oh, that's what the Raiders should do. Go follow the Bears footprint. What's the first thing? Because they have a left tackle and then the rest of the O line. They've got an interior O lineman, JPJ from Oregon, good player. But they're a mess at center because he's playing guard. So the Raiders are a mess at center. Go do what the Bears did. Ben Johnson for Caleb Williams, got Drew Dahlman at center, Joe Tuney at guard, Jonah Jackson at guard. Solidified guard, center, guard, stay away from Caleb's feet. And what happened his, you know, his big plays increased, his sacks and negative plays regressed and it was a magical season for Caleb. If you're the Raiders and they got cap money, go get the Raven center. He's entering his prime anchor that offensive line. Colt Miller on the left side, the Oregon Kid who they drafted a couple years ago is a nice player. He's an, he'll be an elite guard probably at some point in the next couple years, but that's right, spend my money. I think Mendoza is really good. Sam Darnold's joining us next hour. Again, I don't want you guys to freak out on the futuristic advancements we're making on the show tomorrow, but about nine months ago, one of my, one of the big shots at Fox came down and said, hey, get a load of this. What do you make of it? And I just, I couldn't sleep for about four days. So it may be a little unsettling to the pets and the kids. Be seated when we introduce it. I'm not sure if J. Mac may have to take some Dramamine. It could get a little rocky and turbulent on the flight tomorrow. This is a lot. This is new for you and I'm not sure. I'm not going to give it away, but it's a lot to handle. So just make sure you come in stable tomorrow.
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J. Mac
Well, they did tell me you may need a gummy for this experience, so I am bringing some pharmaceuticals.
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Colin Cowherd
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J. Mac
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Colin Cowherd
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