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Think makes the perfect snack?
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Hmm, it's gotta be when I'm really craving it and it's convenient. Could you be more specific when it's cravenient? Okay, like a freshly baked cookie made with real butter, available right down the.
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Colin Cowherd
Street at a.m. p.m. Or a savory.
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Colin Cowherd
A second at a.m. pM.
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Tiffany Cross
I'm seeing a pattern here.
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Colin Cowherd
Well yeah, we're talking about what I crave, which is anything from am pm.
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Jay Kofer
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Colin Cowherd
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Colin Cowherd
Thanks for listening to the Herd Podcast. Be sure to catch us live every weekday on Fox Sports Radio and noon to 3 Eastern, 9am to noon Pacific Pacific. Find your local station for the herd@foxsportsradio.com or stream us live every day on the iHeartRadio app by searching Fox Sports Radio or FSR.
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Jay Kofer
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Colin Cowherd
All right, here we go. It's hour two. It's the herd. Wherever you may be, however you may be listening. Brian Baldinger gonna be joining us from the jets and Giants camp today. They're having joint practices with the J and the Giants. Both teams have some real talent on the defensive side. We don't know what transpires a quarterback. So J. Mack likes one of them and has disdain for the other. Jackson Dart pretty promising. Justin Fields. We'll see. So J. Mac, once the NFL season ends, I give myself four opportunities to make predictions for the following year. Last year I went 4 for 4 in the AFC division champions, 2 for 4 in the NFC. I did get Washington was my surprise team in the NFL. Nailed it to make the playoffs. I predicted Denver was the easiest team to double their win total. I don't think they quite did, but they were much better. They made the playoffs. So I felt pretty good about last year. It's hard. You're not going 8 for 8. AFC is much easier than the NFC. But I do think now that you watch OTAs and rookie camp and you get consensus opinions from camps on what rookies are crushing, who's hurt, who's injured. So you ready to go?
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Unknown Host
Fire away, buddy.
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Colin Cowherd
Here we go. This is my final big tweak. My NFL predictions. We start in the AFC and most of what I am predicting will stay the same. AFC East. Bills are going to win it. Patriots are my most improved team in the NFL. Will be a wild card team. They've had a very good camp. Dolphins and coming out now, as we predicted, the culture, the accountability. Mike McDaniel saying it must improve. We said that and we got nothing. But you know what from Dolphin fans. The coach says it and everybody says, well, of course the Jets. I just structurally, I have no idea. They're fourth. We go to the AFC north, it's going to stay the same. Bengals. Joe Burrows had a great camp. That's promising because they've been a slow starting team. Ravens are the best operation arguably in the sport. Steelers have not been impressive once again, can't run the ball in camp or in the season. Cleveland's trying to get a number one pick next year. Shedeur is going to start. Mark my word, probably finished fourth. But they'll be an interesting fourth place team that stays the same. My first change, not a major one. I am going to move the Jags into The second spot. They've had a very good camp. Travis Hunter has been effective on both sides. Travis Trevor Lawrence has had a very good camp. Leon Coleman him are on the same page. Brian Thomas Year 2 and this has mostly been about the Titans who I think they have the quarterback and the coach for the future but they've acknowledged both the quarterback and the coach are acknowledging the offense is struggling. They probably have the worst receiving core in the league. So I think Tennessee will be a fun watch and I really like Cam Ward but I Trevor Lawrence is healthy Offensive coach Between Brian Thomas and Travis Hunter in the camp, they've upgraded their old line. I'm going to put them at second. Titans third, Colts fourth and AFC West I am flipping the Broncos and the Chargers. Makai Becton is banged up. Rashawn Slater out for the year on the offensive line. Joel is going to have to change positions. Offensive line, which was a concern is now once again a bigger concern than last year. They still also have a couple of receivers that are young that can't consistently catch. I think all of these are legitimate concerns. Denver maybe has the best camp so far in the league. Every reporter that's been there. Wow. Also they picked up a running back, RJ Harvey in the second round. He's had a great camp. Sean Payton is raving about him. So I think Kansas City is a good team. I think they're not going to go 110 in one score games. So Bills, Ravens, Texans, Broncos now winning their division divisions. Patriots, Bengals, Chiefs are playoff teams. Patriots, Bengals, new playoff teams. We go to the nfc. The east remains the same. Eagles, Commanders, Giants, Cowboys. I just don't think I I don't think the Cowboys are very good. I don't like the staff. I do think they'll be interesting but that's an Eagles division. I know everybody says well it flip flops. I wouldn't be shocked if the Commanders won the division, but they've been noisy. Terry McLaurin holdout noisy, don't love that. But Jaden Daniels in my opinion in the staff are too good to fall to third so that stays the same. NFC north major change. Green Bay, quiet camp. I don't worry about Jordan Love's non throwing hand injury yesterday. The Lions I'm dropping them to second. I think their roster and O line and quarterback and culture's too good not to be a playoff team in the nfc. Bears have been the noisiest camp. I don't trust it but I know more about the Bears than I knew JJ McCarthy and the Vikings So I am taking the Bears from second to third, the Lions from first to second. And the more I look at Green Bay, they love their first round pick, the more I like the Packers. Do not worry about Jordan Love's non throwing hand. He will start week one and then in the NFC south it stays the same. You know, Falcons, Bucks are both teams capable of making the playoff. I think the best quarterback in division is Baker Mayfield. It's a workable schedule. I love their gm. They can make a move at the trade deadline. Overall, the Saints are one of the worst teams. The Bucks are always feisty. Baker Mayfield playing with more maturity. I'm going to take them to win the division again. And then I have a change. The Rams have had a bumpy camp. Matt Stafford's not practicing. I know. And their left tackle, their best offensive lineman or second best. Alaric Jackson not practicing. Blood clots. Well, with an old quarterback in Matt Stafford. Yeah, I'm concerned that the left tackle again has blood clots and is not practicing. Rob Havenstein could be playing his last year at right tackle. So that worries me. It has been a bumpy, bumpy camp with a left tackle and a quarterback not practicing. I'm not saying not playing, not practicing. I'll move the Niners from fourth to third even though they've got massive wide receiver grouping injuries. And I'm going to put Seattle. This is my shocker. I think Seattle is going to win the division. Gray Zable, that offensive lineman, their first pick has been a dog in practice. This. So the Eagles, Packers, Bucks and Seahawks are the division winners. Commanders, Lions and Rams are the playoff teams. So it matters. I'm sorry if your quarterback who's old and your left tackle are not practicing. Especially the left tackle issue. It worries me. And remember of all the good teams in the league last year, go look at point differential for the Rams. Ravens blew a lot of people out. Bills blew a lot of people out. Lions blew a lot of people out. Eagles blew a lot of people out. Rams won a lot of close games. Left tackle not practicing. Stafford banged up bad back. It worries me. J. Mac, quick thoughts on that.
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Unknown Host
Oh my gosh. I have all these notes for your Patriots pick. They're not good. But then this Seahawks nonsense just has me totally rattled. I mean, I'm shaking to the core. What are you doing, my friend? Colin, Seahawks new offensive lineman, new offensive.
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Colin Cowherd
Coordinators had a very, very, very, very good camp.
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Unknown Host
Sam Darnold, I'm Colin. I'm looking at their. Do you want to guess how many times they're favored in their first six games. I'm sorry, first six games. They're favored once. There are other underdogs most of the.
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Colin Cowherd
How many times was Washington favored in their first six games last year? How many games. How many times was Bo Nix favorite in his first eight games?
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Jay Kofer
Colin?
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Unknown Host
Oh, this is a setback.
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Colin Cowherd
Okay. Brian Baldinger, 13 NFL seasons. NFL Network analyst, is joining us. Okay. Of all my predictions, Brian, give me one you didn't like and one you did. There's got to be something you didn't like.
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Jay Kofer
Oh, yeah. I mean, to put the Vikings last in the NFC North. Colin, I was just in Eagan, Minnesota. Like, that roster is stacked. They led the league in takeaways last year. Colin, you think that's kind of an important stat. Brian Flores then gone away and he got better on defense. The offensive line is upgraded. You could, you can argue the quarterback, he's got to, you know, step up. But I think the court, the coach has proven that he can work with any quarterback on a very good roster. They're going to get a lot of extra at bats. I can't see the Vikings being the doormat of that division.
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Colin Cowherd
All right, okay. What about. I'll throw it out. The Seahawk pick, second year, totally new, culture, upgraded. You know, they, they view it as a little bit of an upgrade in Sam Darnold, who's closer to his prime than Geno Smith. They love their offensive line pick. You're smiling. What do you make of it?
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Jay Kofer
Well, because you've been doing your homework, Colin. Like you, you're watching Gray Zabel play left guard last week. Like it's an upgrade. So he was, he was a great pick and he's really one of those guys that you build culture around. I think, you know, Mike McDonald's second year, it takes about a half a year to understand his concepts defensively. But I thought they really caught on last year and they should be very good. The team that I think is going to surprise, though, and Look, Seattle won 10 games last year, didn't make the playoffs. You know, you bring Sam Darnold in, fine, you change the offense coordinator upgrade. But I do think the Arizona Cardinals are going to be a lot better than what people think. Like they're, they're the differences that they've added. Defensively, they're going to be a very, very. And the coordinator that they have, Nick Rails, that's going to be a tough team to beat right now, especially in that division. I think the Cardinals going to be vastly improved.
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Colin Cowherd
I want to Ask you Jets and Giants joint practices. I said it this week. If you play for Lane Kiffin for three years in the SEC and you're productive, especially the last two years, I think you're ready for the NFL. It's the toughest defensive conference with the most NFL bodies. Lane can coach in the NFL. Today he had ups and downs, but I thought he looked really comfortable. And I look at this team and maybe there's been promises made to Russell. This is not a Super bowl team. It's a. What the heck is Jackson Dart? And I don't think you can discover that with four starts this year. I think you got to put them on the road outside, inside division rivals. You tell me, what do you see from Jackson Dart? What do you hear? You're at practice.
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Jay Kofer
Well, I like what I've seen and I've talked to him. The touchdown throw that he made the other day to a little Jordan Humphrey, he never saw the completion. He was on his back when he made this throw. So he was like he just heard the crowd. But no, this, this guy, I mean if you play in the SEC and you play, you start three straight years and you're going into LSU and you're going into Georgia and you're facing that schedule. The NFL isn't. The crowd isn't anything like what he experienced in the sec. I think he's built for this thing right here. I think the upgrades of the offensive line are real. I don't know when he's going to get his opportunity. It is Russell's job and it's fair. But you know, we've seen coaches say these kind of things before and then, you know, then all of a sudden it's time to make a change. But look, the Giants go to Washington Week 1. Why can't the Giants go into Washington and win that game? Defensively they've got, they've got a defense line that's going to rival anybody's in his business and they know they're good and they're practicing like they're good. They've got four guys up front that are literally shark infested waters and they're going to make things difficult for any quarterback they face. I like the upgrades with the Giants and I like the way Jackson Dart is fitting in to this team right now.
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Colin Cowherd
So I said this about Jackson Dart and I said it about Shador. A lot in the NFL at quarterbacks price, 60 or 70% is traits, arm size, toughness, all that stuff. Movement. But 30% is maturity, IQ, EQ, pre snap film study. I think Shador, in my opinion, is not. He's a little immature. I wish he was more serious, but when I watch him, movement, accuracy, comfort. He doesn't play. He's not frenetic. He doesn't look nervous. He's athletic enough. When I watched him in that game, I'm like, that's what I saw in college. There is something to be said, Brian. He's a comfortable football player. He never looks overhyped or nervous. What did you see?
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Jay Kofer
I saw that. I saw a guy that, you know, like the second touchdown. Well, this throw right here is a layered throw, Colin. So he's got two Panthers right there and he fits it in. He comes out of these end zone, he takes this shot right there. He hits lavardane right there in that dig route. You know, this scramble right here, he's beaten up. You know, a defensive lineman right there knows when to slide, to get down. Like, this throw is a stick throw. He hits Kaden Davis right there. He trusted his protection to go pick up the blitzing linebacker. He didn't, you know, over. Some guys panic and they just run out of the pocket. Like he just basically parried a punch in the middle of the ring to make the throws. There's so many things that you liked about your. And the thing that's interesting about his performance is I've been to Berea, Ohio, to watch him practice. He was getting four team reps, maybe two reps in every single drill. Like, he did this with no preparation for the most part, and he was very comfortable doing it. And so, you know, he's playing with the third offensive line for much of training camp and he got a chance to play. I want to see him, you know, play up. I'm going to see him tomorrow against the Eagles down at NovaCare and then play this weekend against the Eagles in a game. I want to see him take another step up and see some of the same things that you're talking about that we saw in week one. I want to see him carry over to week two.
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Colin Cowherd
So generally speaking, noisy teams worry me. Seattle's been very quiet. Green Bay has been very quiet. New England, by and large, has been very quiet. Raiders have actually, this is rare. Raiders have been quiet. Chicago's been a noisy camp. Now, some of it is Ben Johnson, Caleb Williams. But I am, I, I, I watched Tyson Bagent play against Miami. 16 play, drive. And then I, you know, I've hear Ben Johnson before the game talking about Tyson saying, oh, sharp. I mean, he really prepares and did make me think that's a lot for a backup I have and I'll be the first to admit I'm rooting for Caleb, but it feels like it's been bumpy. They didn't play him Saturday or Sunday. That was a little odd to me. Or am I. Did that bother you that they didn't play him at all?
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Jay Kofer
Completely. It completely by me. It's a new offense, a new offensive line. Presumably the coach and quarterback should be joined at the hip. I mean, we see Joe Burrow go out there and play and Kyler Murray. We saw all these starters out there playing. I thought Caleb needed to play. I was out there last Tuesday at training camp in, you know, Howis hall and talked to Caleb for a long time after practice. The guys tell me that have been there and have been around the league. Montez sweat. It's the toughest camp they've ever been through. Full contact like, okay, great, you're toughening the team up. They need to get tougher mentally. Let's put the quarterback out there. You've upgraded the offensive line. You can't be the least bit worried about him getting. He was sacked 68 times and never hurt last year. Put him out there, let him show the world that this offense fits him and he can do the things that Ben Johnson wants him to do. There's no point to hiding him. He needs to play in this offense and he needs to get the ball out of his hands and win from the pocket. We know he can extend plays and he can play some hero ball, but we got to see him win from the pocket and cut those sacks down in half like they did with Jared Goff. And so I was disappointed he didn't play. I like guys who want to play in preseason. I understand some guys there's no need but I mean with tua, with all of his injuries is out there playing from Miami, certainly Caleb can get out there for Chicago.
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Colin Cowherd
In your 13 year career, you signed, you were signed undrafted by the Cowboys back in the early 80s from Duke and you played all those offensive line positions and even back then it was a high profile franchise. But it's been weird. So Micah is, is not practicing. Trayvon Diggs is unhappy. George Pickens is a. It's a new star. And the coaching staff I don't love. Brian Schottenheimer was not up for coordinator jobs and was named the head coach. I don't think Jerry, in my opinion, respects coaches enough. I don't think he does in my opinion. I. There are some owners that really understand it. Some. Some don't as much. But I. I look at Dallas and I'm like, well, now, Micah, the messaging, if he's your best player and that's an argument and he's not being taken care of, does that affect the locker room? Does that affect the culture? You tell me, because he's got a year left in his deal. But it's been pretty choppy. I mean, the press in Dallas is all over Jerry. They're very pro. Micah, how does it affect the team and the culture?
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Jay Kofer
I think it affects him. I mean, if I was Mike, I told this to his partner, Abdul Carter, here with the Giants today. I said, if I was. If I was telling Michael what to do, I wouldn't have had a hold in. I would have just go fishing, you know, go disappear. Don't be around Jerry. Don't be around the team. You're not doing anybody any good. These negotiations get choppy. They get personal. Jerry saying he missed six weeks last year, he missed four. Like, it gets personal. And you don't need to hear that stuff because it does get. It does become the focal point of every practice. And so I wouldn't have him out there. Look, when Dak is healthy and plays 17 games, this offense moves. You know, the postseason is a little bit different, but I'm not ready to write the Cowboys off. But I will say this column, you know, if a guy that played with the Cowboys, they have been most relevant when they have star running backs, when they have Tony Dorsett, Emmett Smith, when they have Zeke Elliott. Like, they're relevant when they have great star running backs and when they don't. Like, they don't. Now they. They don't look like a team that should wear the star. Like they're in. Their offensive line is built to run the ball great with a great back, and they're not built like that right now. And so it kind of came. I know Schottenheimer wants to run the ball, and you can say Miles Sanders and Javante Williams. You tell me all about all these guys. They're not what Emmett and Dorsett and Zeke were. And so I just feel like that's who the Cowboys have always been when they've been great with great running backs. And I don't see it right now.
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Colin Cowherd
Brian Baldinger NFL Network Analyst jets and Giants joint practices and did you. Annie Reid won't do joint practices at all. Kyle Shanahan will do one, but he won't do two. Where are you on those? Do they help?
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Jay Kofer
Yeah, they help. Yeah, Andy's different. Andy from the day he came to Philadelphia, Colin, like, he loves, like, just banging each other. I mean, just contact. He runs difficult camps, camps that make him look like a dinosaur in some of the drills that he has him doing. He likes that privacy out there in the middle of that cornfield that he's at, and that's fine. But I think both the jets and Giants benefited here these last two days. The Eagles are scrimmaging the Browns today. I think the Browns can benefit a great deal. It's good for Shador to go out and see a great defense and great defensive schematics that, you know, that they have there in Philadelphia. Great young talent in that side of the ball. And for Philadelphia, like Lane Johnson going up against, you know, Miles is good theater. I mean, it's good to watch. I don't know how many reps are going to go against each other, but, you know, you get your best players against their best players. They got a good offense line in Cleveland, really good line. That's, that's, that's going to be good scrimmaging right there between those two teams. Getting ready for the game this weekend.
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Colin Cowherd
By the way, Baldy, Ben Johnson just said everybody's playing Sunday against Buffalo, including Caleb Williams. There we go, Baldy. We get our guys.
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Jay Kofer
He listen, George. He's listening to the program. What can we say here?
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Colin Cowherd
Baldy, you do great work. Thanks as always, my man.
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Jay Kofer
Yeah, my pleasure. You got it.
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Colin Cowherd
NFL Network. He. There's a guy that loves football and knows football, so. How about that, J. Mac? Caleb Williams taking some live snapperoonies.
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Unknown Host
Wonderful. I'm still shook by your Seattle Seahawks nonsense. I mean, honestly, I just, I'm floored. Like, listen, I like outside the box predictions. I love them. Actually, this one just doesn't make sense to me. You have to make it make sense when you get a chance later in the show or manana, but that you have the Arizona dead last in the division. You have the Niners third.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah.
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Unknown Host
What's going on, man? Have you been reading about this Niner schedule? Are you overreacting?
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Colin Cowherd
Have you been reading about the Niners wide receiver issue? Like they don't have a wide receiver outside of Ricky Pierce. I mean, they've got contract disputes. It's a mess.
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Unknown Host
So, Colin, the best quarterback the Niners face outside of division is Baker Mayfield. That's it.
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Colin Cowherd
None of.
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Unknown Host
They don't face any elite quarterbacks. Robert Sala is back. You know how good of a defensive coordinator is. I think you butchered the NFC west badly. You know, there's a world where you got it upside down and Arizona shocks people and wins a division, but I will be stunned if Seattle's not fourth outside of like a major injury to a quarterback or something. Okay, well, that's a hot take for you, man.
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Colin Cowherd
Well, yeah, so was Washington and Denver last year, by the way.
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Unknown Host
Do you want to know what Seattle was at home last year? Remember the, what do they call it? The 13th man or whatever? 12th man. Yeah, three and six at home. The mystique is gone. Okay, okay.
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Colin Cowherd
All right. I, I, I. My concern in that division is Alaric Jackson and Matt Stafford. That's the issue. Old quarterbacks, you know, Steelers let their left tackle go. Here comes Aaron. That's not good. Like, to me, it's not the Matt Stafford injury. It's like Alaric Janssen Jackson. You're like, okay, we have an issue now again. Rob Havenstein is an excellent right tackle. Rob may retire after the season. Rob may play 13 games. You can't have issues at tackle with Matt Stafford. You could have them with Cam Ward. You could have them with Jordan. Love young quarterbacks that can move. Matt's an old pocket guy. Jared Goff, Kirk Cousins, Aaron, you can't have. You can't have tackle issues. Little pause with the Rams.
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Jay Kofer
Be sure to catch live editions of the Herd, Weekdays at noon Eastern, 9am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, FS1 and the iHeartRadio app.
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Unknown Host
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Colin Cowherd
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
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Jay Kofer
What the hell are you doing in our studio? Get him, Paulie.
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Colin Cowherd
Ignore that fool.
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Jay Kofer
Listen to the Pauli and Tony Fusco.
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Colin Cowherd
You get your podcast. He's still moving.
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Andrew Gillum
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Angela Rye
Rest is certainly a form of self care, but if you are watching your full neighbors starve, not be able to pay bills, your rest is selfish.
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Tiffany Cross
But the thing is, Angela, this is not the mess we created. So I do understand black folks feeling like, you know what, y' all got it.
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Unknown Host
We're like family, but we disagree all the time.
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Andrew Gillum
And we love when our listeners chime in.
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Tiffany Cross
What would happen if we built our own little Wakandan communities in the rural South.
- [30:38]
Colin Cowherd
Tiffany, do not run to no rural South. I don't know what you're on.
- [30:42]
Tiffany Cross
What our audience is asking is. Okay, fine, you want me to stop resting? What specifically are you asking me to do? Stay informed and take action.
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Andrew Gillum
Listen to Native Land pod on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever. Wherever you get your podcast.
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Colin Cowherd
Tony Grossi, Cleveland talk show host, memorable video with Shador Sanders. He's going to be joining us Phil Steele, college football maven next hour as well. Nobody has more been more accurate at predicting college football outcomes over the last 15 years than Phil Steele in that magazine. So he joins us, J. Mac with the news. No, no, no, turn on the news.
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Jay Kofer
This is the Herd line news.
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Unknown Host
Let's go back to the quarterback tears, shall we? Colin, because Joe Burrow was in the first tier, tied with Mahomes as first overall. But how about this huge compliment in the piece on Burrow with an anonymous head coach. Why would you have to be anonymous to admit this? Joe Burrow is the closest thing to Joe Montana that I have seen. I'm gonna just put your name on that one. But I guess then it would look not great if you're complimenting him and he's not your quarterback. Yesterday I said Burrow not a terrible bet for MVP just because he's going to be slinging it and he seems like he's on a mission. Collins seems very focused, wants to play in the preseason.
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Colin Cowherd
I mean, the easiest pick. I made it. You made it, I'm sure the easiest pick in the NFL this year for a team that didn't make the playoffs last year and will this year is Cincinnati because it's almost impossible to be as good as Burrow has been and not make the playoffs. It's a total indictment of the ownership and front office of Cincinnati that Joe Burrow didn't make the playoffs. He was for most of the year better than Patrick Mahomes. And that's not debatable almost all of the year.
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Unknown Host
Yeah, Yeah, I mean, Wait, did you say almost because Burrow was better than Mahomes last year?
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Colin Cowherd
Well, statistically he was, yes.
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Unknown Host
Not even close. Mahomes had a rough year. I know you can't say anything negative about Mahomes, but yeah, Joe Burrow is an all time great. There's no doubt about it. I'm just curious, given the division, Lamar Mahomes, Josh Allen, all about the same age, do you think there's a world where Burrow just doesn't win a Super bowl in his career?
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah, Dan Marino didn't. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, I. I think so much of it is. I mean, Burrow and Stafford play, it really came down to one Aaron Donald play. I mean, that was the Super Bowl.
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Unknown Host
Well, and the Stafford drive before that for the game.
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Colin Cowherd
No, it was great. But I mean, Burrow had had great drive. So. I mean, so much of this stuff is, you know, I mean, Jimmy Garro, I was thinking about this this morning. Jimmy Garoppolo outplayed Mahomes for three quarters in the super bowl. If he connects on one deep ball. Garoppolo is arguably. I don't remember his stats. Is he MVP of the Super Bowl? They. It was the Chiefs dominate the fourth quarter play. Great. And San Francisco and Shanahan get tight. If he hits on one play, there's a different outcome. Very likely a different outcome. And now Mahomes has lost three Super Bowls.
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Unknown Host
Yeah, Mahomes hit a Tyreek Hill on that. It was like third and 18 and hit an unbelievable bomb. Yeah, that, that's like an all time great play and that's a little lucky.
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Colin Cowherd
I mean, look at this. Pete Carroll Patriots. If they run with Marshawn Lynch. Seattle's got two Super Bowls. I mean. Yeah, that disrupted that entire culture. There was so much resentment toward Marshawn lynch because everybody loved Marshawn and Russell wasn't as popular. I mean, I always said this. Pete Carroll came within one play at usc. If he picks up a first down against Texas, it's like fourth and one and they miss by a helmet and then he gets a touchdown. Look at Pete Carroll's career. The closest super bowl loss and the closest natty loss. If not for that. And Pete's gonna be get hall of Fame votes. He'd be a lock to be the hall of Fame on one play in the NFL. And then in college at usc, it's fourth. I think it's fourth and one. They don't have Reggie Bush on the field. They give it to Lindell White and they're a helmet shy of beating a great Texas team.
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Unknown Host
What do they, what do they say? Close only counts in hand grenades and horseshoes.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah, that's a MP Carroll's career. Yeah.
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Unknown Host
All right, let's move on to. Oh, hey, how about this? James Cook. We've been talking about him not getting a deal. He got it done. His little hold in or whatever it's called worked. James Cook, the elite running back, got a four year, 48 million dollar deal, 30 million dollars guaranteed. Congratulations to James Cook. He's the sixth player the Bills have extended this offseason, including Josh Allen, Russo, Benford, Shakir, by the way, Shakir, I love that guy in the slot. Grab him in fantasy. And of course, Terrell Bernard, the linebacker. Listen, man, Buffalo's got their push. Colin, I don't want to get go overboard here, but I do really believe if Buffalo does not win a Super bowl, that McDermott's out. If the Bengals don't get to the playoffs, their head coach is out. Yet both of them have elite quarterbacks and are on the cusp of greatness. Well, that's how close and senuous things can be. Right?
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Colin Cowherd
Well, remember, really good coaches have been let go. Belichick, Andy Reid, Pete Carroll, Marty Schottenheimer. Really good coaches get let go. Chuck Knox. I always said Sean McDermott is Chuck Knox. If you're older, if you're young, you don't know who Chuck Knox is. Everywhere. Chuck Knox, when he was Rams, Seahawks, Buffalo, everywhere he went, he won. But in the end, Chuck would get punished because he couldn't win in the postseason. Marty Schottenheimer. Right. So like Sean McDermott would be in a list, a long list of great. I mean, even in Philadelphia, they felt like Andy Reid. It worn out its welcome. So the truth is, it's not a criticism to say Sean McDermott needs to win this year. Chuck Knox, Andy Reid, Belichick, Pete Carroll. I mean, Mike Tomlin's one of the few survivors that we've talked about it before, but the Steelers just don't make coaching changes. So it happens and it's. Listen, great politicians have lost elections, great coaches have been dismissed. It happens all the time in pro football.
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Unknown Host
Yeah. I mean, again, I think we need to adjust. Like you keep saying, good coach, good regular season coach. Can you deliver the playoffs?
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Colin Cowherd
No, no, no, no, no, no, no. He's won playoff games.
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Unknown Host
That doesn't make you a good coach. Just winning playoff games, the big ones that you've got to win the conference championship. Are you winning that?
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Colin Cowherd
Phil Mickelson's a great golfer. He wasn't as good as Tiger like nobody's quite I mean a lot of this stuff is that Buffalo's defense can't make a stop at Mahomes. It's not that Josh plays a defensive guy.
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Tiffany Cross
What do you mean?
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Colin Cowherd
Once you pay your quarterback a lot of money, you got holes. The holes for the Chiefs have been receiving offensive line been blow out twice as if it was. The holes for the Bills have been. They've had to let go of some really good linebackers and corners and safeties. So their decisions. They've upgraded their offense but had to let go of defense. The Chiefs have upgraded their defense and they've let go of offense. That's why Mahomes numbers come down. So I, I, I'm a big believer there are these play the Phoenix Suns with Charles Barkley for they were pre warriors like they were shooting threes when nobody else was. They were scoring 128 a game.
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Unknown Host
Yeah, that's right.
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Colin Cowherd
They unbelievable when Nobody was scoring 128 they were dropping 130. But Michael Jordan and the Bulls ensured they weren't going to win. The Utah Jazz had great teams and would have two titles without one player. So I've always given Buffalo's well coached, well run well quarterbacked. Kansas City is decided they are the Tiger woods of their generation.
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Unknown Host
I would disagree. Buffalo is all that but they're not that In January they were not well coached in that arrowhead loss when they could not convert all those short yardage situations.
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Tiffany Cross
That's not.
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Unknown Host
That's on coaching. When they got blasted in Kansas City that was not good. Now they did get screwed when Mahomes had that unbelievable drive with what like 13 seconds left to beat him in that one classic. But again it really comes down to a handful of plays and who's better? Mahomes has been better now in the regular season matchup. Remember last year in Buffalo where Josh Allen had the keeper that show me that in January and get to a damn Super Bowl. I mean I need to see in the playoffs. I'm sorry, I'm a jerk.
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Colin Cowherd
You're very results oriented. No, I'm very process oriented.
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Unknown Host
You're stealing my material. Finally we got to go to Bo Nix. We have a new contract here in Herdline.
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Jay Kofer
Bo.
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Unknown Host
Knicks must be in one every single day heading into year two with Bo Nicks. Expectations are through the roof. You just picked them to win the division. Drew Brees views everything the same way.
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Jay Kofer
Anytime you're going into your second year I think is a, is a NFL quarterback. You know, last year probably feels like a blur in a lot of ways just because man, you, you. It's a long season, you know, you're adjusting new offense, new speed of the game, just new mode of operation. And so I think for Bo, there'll be, it'll be a much higher level of comfort.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah. I think. Do we have the schedule? Let's put Denver schedule on the screen. Just for fun. Just. I want to see Denver schedule because. All right, so let's, let's look at this. Okay. Home against Tennessee, rookie quarterback W Colts quarterback situation w Chargers game. Let's see. Denver led the league in sacks. Chargers have offensive tackle and O line issues. Denver Bengals at home. Now they do go to Philadelphia. That's rough. But you start looking at that. This is why I picked them to win the division. Start looking at that first seven, eight weeks.
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Unknown Host
That's rough.
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Colin Cowherd
I mean Dallas at home, Giants at home, Jets, Titans, Colts. Now it's tough on the back end is a lot of W's on that schedule. There's a lot of. They're going to be favored by six to seven points in a lot of the first seven games.
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Unknown Host
Potentially one of the things you like to do, I think this is smart, is look at the quarterbacks they're facing. You could cover the schedule. I'll name the quarterbacks. Cam Ward, Daniel Jones, Herbert Burrow, Herz, Justin Fields. I'm gonna just play say Jackson Dart for fun. Dak Prescott, C.J. stroud, Gino Smith. That there's a lot of wins on the schedule. Colin, I. I've got him one in the division. I'm with you.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah. Jay McLenhouse.
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Jay Kofer
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Hey everybody, I'm Angela Rye, co host of Native Lamp Pot with Tiffany Cross and Andrew Gillum. Through the lens of politics and culture. We talk with you every week to make sense of this madness.
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Tiffany Cross
I've been telling Angela I don't even know how to fight back right now. So what I'm focused on is just looking out for the truth.
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Andrew Gillum
We're having the same debates that American households are having all over the country.
- [44:35]
Angela Rye
Rest is certainly a form of self care, but if you are watching your full neighbors starve, not be able to pay bills, your rest is selfish.
- [44:45]
Tiffany Cross
But the thing is Angela, this is not the mess we created. So I do understand black folks feeling like you Know what? Y' all got it.
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Unknown Host
We're like family, but we disagree all the time. And we love when our listeners chime.
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Tiffany Cross
In what would happen if we built our own little Wakandan communities in the rural South.
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Colin Cowherd
Tiffany, do not run to no rural South. I don't know what you're on.
- [45:07]
Tiffany Cross
What our audience is asking is. Okay, fine. You want me to stop resting? What specifically are you asking me to do? Stay informed and take action.
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Andrew Gillum
Listen to Native Land Pod on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.
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Colin Cowherd
So there's a new Netflix show called America's Team, and, you know, cowboy fans get worked up, you know. Colin, you're very negative. Well, I'm negative because of the results. So Jerry Jones now just publicly admitted, which this is. Stan Kroenke is invisible, owns the Rams. He hides from the press, Right? Like, hides from it. You don't see Steve Bouchotti, who's pulling a ton of strings in Baltimore. Steve, on draft day, has powers like Steve Machadi is all over the Ravens. You never see him. Here's Jerry Jones on what, what's important when you're an owner. I do believe if we're not being looked at, then I'll do my part to get us looked at. Oh, it's wonderful to have the great athletes, have the great players, but there's something more there. There's siz, there's emotion, and if you will, there's controversy. And that controversy is good stuff in terms of keeping and having people's attention. What. Okay. That you're treating it like a movie or a toy. Like, I, I again, I've said that Jerry views the Cowboys as a business first. Because you, if you really think about it, they've had too many good players, too many competent coaches. They've been too. I mean, between Tony Romo and Dak Prescott, those are above average quarterbacks. And if you add their careers together, I mean, they've had good quarterback play for, like, 20 years, and yet they have the longest NFC drought getting to the conference championship. Right? Like, they're, they're, they're well financed. They've got, you know, I mean, like the Rams, they got a lot of money. They're quarterback. If I told you there's an NFL team for 20 years. And I said, listen, they make a lot of money, they're well financed, they're popular. Free agents like playing there, no state tax. They've had good quarterback play. Hey, they had about a six year stretch. They had the best offensive line in the game. They've also had elite pass rushers, receivers, star running backs, star receivers. One of the all time best tight ends, Jason Whitner. And I said, how do you think that team has done in turn? You'd be like, oh, okay, they got at least two Super bowl appearances, one win, 13 division titles. I mean all the boxes that you would check for this NFL, 20 years of good quarterback play, right? I'd say a decade of above average offensive lines at one point best in the league for five year stretch. Star running back, star receiver, star tight end, pass rusher has never been a problem with Dallas. And that they have the longest drought in the NFC of getting to the NFC championship. I'd say upstairs has under delivered on the fields. Delivered fine. I mean, you can criticize Mike McCarthy all you want. The best Dak Prescott I've ever seen came from Mike McCarthy. And you can bang on Jason Garrett. Jason Garrett won 13 games. Dak Prescott was a rookie from Mississippi State who didn't throw a pretty ball. So Jason Garrett won a lot of games, you know, so I mean, Mike McCarthy won with Cooper Rush. You can blame coaches all you want in Dallas. You can blame quarterbacks. I'm Tony Romo is one of the more underrated quarterbacks of my lifetime. And Dak Prescott is overpaid in my opinion. But you get what you. And he's a grown up, he's way better than his career. He is a well known, highly productive quarterback when healthy. He was productive with Jason Garrett. He's productive with Mike McCarthy. I mean, what Jerry just said is what we have speculated and he just confirmed. Play that bite again. He had just confirmed what we've all thought is happening in Dallas. I do believe if we're not being looked at, then I'll do my part to get us looked at. Oh, it's wonderful to have the great athletes, have the great players, but there's something more there. There's sizzle, there's emotion and if you will, there's controversy. And that controversy is good stuff in terms of keeping and having people's attention. Controversy is good stuff, okay? Because Chicago's had a lot of it. Controversy is good stuff for reporters, for podcasters, for Joe Rogan. I mean, controversy is good stuff for Elon Musk's. Businesses. Maybe. I. I don't even know what. What has happened. It's crazy.
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Unknown Host
Hey, we need more controversy on our show. Colin, come on. Jerry said it's good.
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Unknown Host
Who cares about truth when the lies More entertaining.
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Angela Rye
Welcome home. I'm Angela Rye, co host of the Native Lampod with Andrew Gillum and Tiffany Cross, and we want y' all to survive and thrive in this political moment.
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Andrew Gillum
We're having the same debates that American households are having all over the country.
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Angela Rye
I am terrified that in our rest we're going to miss the moment.
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Tiffany Cross
You want me to stop resting? What specifically are you asking me to do? Stay informed and take action.
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Andrew Gillum
Listen to Native Land pod on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast.
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Colin Cowherd
Should you? That's what the real question is. Stand without good access is not a good stand.
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Unknown Host
Listen to Back 40 on iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast or wherever you get your podcast.
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Jay Kofer
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Colin Cowherd
We choose to go to the moon.
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Jay Kofer
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Colin Cowherd
You're a great pilot, Buzz.
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Jay Kofer
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Angela Rye
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