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THE HERD - Hour 2 - NFL team reviews have leaked, live from the NFL Combine, Robert Mays
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Colin Cowherd
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Colin Cowherd
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Colin Cowherd
You know, pitchers and catchers have reported. J. Mac, we got baseball, we got the combine, we got Michigan, Illinois, Illinois tonight. Man, there's some good college basketball this weekend. I saw Andy Katz in the building today. Big college basketball scribe. It's all fired. CNN's gonna have a new owner.
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J. Mac
Oh, boy. Don't get in trouble. Cowherd.
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Colin Cowherd
You know what?
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J. Mac
Be careful. Be careful.
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Colin Cowherd
Same great owners over at this company. Wrong leadership. It's Robert May's gonna be showing up a couple min. I think people of power do need to be held, you know, somewhat accountable. Right? And so the NFL players, the truth always comes out. The NFL players, the nflpa, they want those report cards out every year at this time after a season's over to say, here's the good owners, here's the bad owners because it holds billionaires accountable. And there's some bad owners. There's about seven great quarterbacks in this league, seven great coaches, seven great GMs and seven great owners. There's a lot of bad ones. So the Steeler report card came out and I've never been on the Steeler plane, but apparently it's only got one engine because they got Fs across the board. They got F on team travel and F on treatment of families and F on locker room. How can you have an F on a locker room team travel? I mean, what are you giving people, cold hot dogs for lunch? Like, I don't even know how you get that grade. So. But I think this stuff's, you know, they didn't get Fs across the board. They got some, you know, Bs and the training staff got a B plus, the weight room got a B, the nutritionist, the dietician got a B. There's a couple A's in there. Special teams coordinator everybody liked, but ownership got a D minus and F's everywhere. And I think it's important. The Rooneys have always had a reputation as good people, but cheap. It's. And, you know, it used to be the Steelers were up here and the Bengals were down there and now they're contemporaries. So I don't know how team travel can be an F. Are they taking like a biplane? I don't even know. Is it an open cockpit? I don't even understand that. How can you butcher team travel? By the way, the head coach and the special teams coordinator, they got A's on this report card. They're both gone. So the, the average grade is going to plummet. For the Steelers. But I think it's important. I think some of these owners, the cheap groups, the frugal groups and the bad owners need to be called out and they and players don't have very much leverage. They have it in baseball, they have it in the NBA. They don't have a lot of leverage in the NFL and they work their butt off and they very few players get into trouble. 99% of players are incredibly committed. I think some of these owners need to be called out with that. Robert Mays, writer for the Athletic, but where I hear him is the Athletic Football show podcast, which is awesome. He is attending the NFL combine this week, which I didn't go to, but friends did and it is fun. That's what I will say. It's a lot of meeting. They call it the underwear Olympics, but it's a lot of deal making. So let's start with this. I said earlier I can't fault the premise of what the Cowboys are doing. They're spending the money on the right side. They're, they're, they've got a B plus quarterback, good weapons o lines getting better. But it doesn't, it feels a little bit like they never get anybody at a discount. The Rams and the Seahawks each have eight players like, like Puka or a Devin Witherspoon. And you're like, man, you're getting really several good years at a discount. The Cowboys feel like they get nobody. They had they impose their own tariff. Robert, everybody's expensive. So when you look at these numbers and Pickens is going to be franchise, what jumps out to you?
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Robert Mays
I agree with you and I think they had a span of this franchise where everyone was on a discount. Them not winning when Dak was the cheapest contract in the NFL for a starting quarterback and probably the biggest bargain in the entire league. Yeah, that was their best window. Now it just becomes harder the way that these contracts are structured. And this is always something I've been frustrated with with the Cowboys. This is an ownership group that can throw money around and they don't always this is not always a team that spends a lot of cash. This year they're going to be a team that spends a lot of cash. They're going to pay $28 million to George Pickens. They're going to restructure the deals for Dak. CD probably Tyler Smith. And so those numbers look big, but after the restructures they'll be small enough where they can add other pieces. My frustration with the Joneses is you can throw around money like the Eagles do you in order to kind of stretch out these windows in a way that not every organization can. And so I think we're building to that this spring. And actually I like to see that from the Cowboys.
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Colin Cowherd
So I, I, I brought this up. I have been a huge supporter. I think Steve Bushadi. I've had, I've had people around the league say he's very involved, he's very smart. I think the Ravens are well run. I didn't know if, when he was in college if Lamar was going to be a good NFL quarterback, but I've spent the last five, six years defending Lamar Jackson. But now he wants a new deal and there's been sort of the Kawhi Leonard like he's hurt. Is he not hurt? Mom is an agent. There's a little bit of mystery around him. He doesn't necessarily want to be a part of off season camps. And I said the other day is I can two things can be true. I can like him a lot, but I can look at John Harbaugh and John Harbaugh. Jackson dart is going to be 1/20 of Lamar's cap hit. And I, you know, sometimes you get fired in life and it's like I may be avoiding trouble. And I look at Jesse Minter, what he's taking over Linderbaum, Lamar, Jackson, Robert. I don't know if the Ravens are in a Super bowl window. If Lamar gets what he wants, I think it feels that punitive. Am I wrong on that?
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Robert Mays
I think they need more things to go their way this offseason than they do in a typical off season. Because if you look at the Ravens over the last 15 to 20 years, one of the most impressive things they've done. They always have these guys in the pipeline at all these different positions. Yeah, I look at edge rusher, like that's my favorite example. The amount of like third to fifth round picks that the Ravens had at edge rusher, that they would just cycle through the next one and then that guy would get paid. Matthew Judon, Pernell McPhee. They were always being able to tap into these guys. That area of the roster. They're not two and three deep at some of these positions. And so they're scrambling more this offseason. Interior, offensive line, edge rusher, safety, corner. If they move on from Myron Humphrey, then they would be in a typical year. But I still think there's enough baseline talent and I do think they'll figure out enough financial wiggle room by restructuring Lamar's deal. Where if they do hit on two or three of these things combined with how exciting I am, how excited I am about the coaching staff, I do think they can thread that needle. I just think the degree of difficulty for them right now is harder than we typically ascribe to a Ravens roster.
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Colin Cowherd
So a former scout, John Middlekop, works at the volume and he was, he made a point last night that was interesting. He said GMs now there were 22 in season trades last year. That's the most in like 30 years. And young GMs are just super aggressive. So when you see the packers play, pay a fortune for Banks, the guard, it's probably because there were, you know, they weren't bidding against themselves or Sauce Gardner, two first round picks. Chris Ballard's probably not negotiating against himself. There are a lot of it's like a hot real estate market. People are young GMs are dealmakers, not just Howie Roseman. And I look at Malik Willis and I know I've only got six starts, but I was kind of blown away when he went to Green Bay in like August. He's playing two weeks later and I'm like, he's kind of got the playbook down like this is impressive. And we can say, well, he's not worth 35 million. Well, I've watched his six starts. He's good. You know, it's the old American Idol thing. I didn't need five minutes to tell Kerry Underwood had a good voice. Like that's talent. I've watched Malik Willis, he looks really talented to me. And I do believe with all these young GMs, two teams are going to be interested. Are you hearing anything about that?
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Robert Mays
I think there's going to be a robust market for him. I mean John Eric Sullivan, who's the GM for the Dolphins first year gm, he was in Green Bay with Malik last year. He came out said at the combine, he said, if you're a quarterback in ed team and you're telling me that you're not looking at Malik Willis, you're a liar. And think about how many quarterback needy teams there are and how few avenues there are to those guys this year. It's a terrible quarterback draft and even the veteran pool of players, the Niners are going to want like a second round pick and change for Mac Jones because of how dry the pool is at that position.
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Colin Cowherd
Right.
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Robert Mays
So I absolutely think there's going to be a market for Malik Willis. The coolest thing to me is I just love watching how the league reacts to certain archetypes and trends. So let's go back like two or three years to when Baker Mayfield was just out there on the street. Baker Mayfield signed a one year, $4 million deal to be the Bucks starting quarterback. And then when he succeeds, you see it start to creep up. All right, Darnold's 10 million. Daniel Jones is 15 million. Justin Fields is now 20 million. And so the idea that you could have gotten baker for 4 million bucks three years ago and now Malik Willis is going to make $30 million a year in free agency, it just shows you how fast things change when a certain idea starts working for people.
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Colin Cowherd
Okay, I'm having a coughing attack. I want to ask you though, Cave on Thibodeau Giants, is there a market?
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Robert Mays
Yeah, absolutely. There always is for edge rushers. I mean, the idea that a perfect example of this, Jermaine Johnson gets traded to the Titans yesterday for Tavandre Sweat. Tavandre Sweat, even if schematically he doesn't fit with the Titans are he's a second year player who played really, really good football last year. Jermaine Johnson's making $13 million a year on his fifth year option for an edge rusher. That's not a lot of money. So even if Kayvon Thibodeau hasn't necessarily been everything you'd want a top five pick to be, he's still a below market level contract for guys at that position who can be contributors. So I don't think a team would give up a ton for him. But absolutely, if the Giants were willing to move him, I think they could get something for him.
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Colin Cowherd
So you know this because you live in Chicago. The Bears could spend every draft pick on defense. They really have no offensive holes. Running back to tight end, two receiver, three interior O line. Maybe they could use another tackle in the building. I've made the argument, Caleb, next three years you're getting a discount. You got to kick the tires on Max Crosby. It's not. I mean, you're going to get too good here really quick to get good draft picks. Crosby I think is available. I wouldn't move him. Bears, Max Crosby. Do you think they're interested?
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Robert Mays
The only problem is just how much money they've committed to the position already. So if you look at it, the contract they gave Dyo Dangbo last year in free agency, they cannot get off that in short order and save any money. They've already paid Montez Sweat just purely to edge rushers. The Bears are accounting against the cap, have the fifth highest price tag for their edge rushers in the NFL right now, and they can't move off any of those guys. And so if they move some money around and maybe if they wanted to skimp other places, but if you bring a Max Crosby, you're spending like $65 million combined solely on your edge rushing room. When now you need another linebacker because Tremaine Edmonds is moving on. You need two starting safeties. You need a left tackle because yours tore his Achilles last year. So I love the idea just when you're trying to maximize the window. I just wonder, with everything they've committed there and the other holes they have, can they actually afford somebody like that?
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Colin Cowherd
So the Chiefs don't have a lot of picks. They need a right tackle. They need a running back. They need edge rushers. You know, it's funny, Robert, we say this a lot on the show. Fall in like with your players. Don't fall in love. I mean, look, the Golden State warriors, like, they just won't move off Steph. Steph's remarkable. He's a good leader. But they're old and slow and small. Like they. They probably should have at least kicked tires on stuff three years ago. Chris Jones down year. Kelsey probably time. Mahomes been hit enough in his life and been banged up coming off an injury. Brett Veets doesn't have a lot of picks. Your kind of thoughts on this draft and the next couple of months for the Chiefs because Chargers get their tackles back and and they got cap space and the Raiders are going to be better with Kubiak and Mendoza and Bo Nix works like this is a real time now. Mahomes 1.0 got to a bunch of Super Bowls and a bunch of rings. Brady had the advantage over Mahomes. A lousy division and there were multiple buys. There's one by now or you're going mostly going on the road. And Robert, this division is brutal. This, the next couple of months for Kansas City is crucial. What's the game plan in your opinion?
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Robert Mays
The biggest difference to me is when you're a really good team year in and year out, you don't often get to pick in the top 10.
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Colin Cowherd
That's right.
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Robert Mays
So the fact that they bottomed out last year, when you look at team like the Eagles are a perfect example of this. To me, it's actually beneficial if you're one of these teams who's consistently good and everyone in the building has job security for you to have one really bad season amidst all of the good seasons because it allows you to restock with talent. You wouldn't get otherwise those down years for the Eagles when they can pick a guy like devonte Smith, those have benefited them. The Chiefs haven't had any of those until this year. So their biggest need to me across the entire roster, I think you can fill running back with a free agent. I think you can get the skill sets you need at wide receiver in the free agent market. Pass rushing juice is the number one this team, this number one thing this team needs. And in this draft at number nine, there is likely going to be a path to a talent that they don't often have access to via the draft. So if they can find an edge rusher at 9, if they can go out and get a big bodied receiver like a Juwan Jennings, somebody like that in free agency, if they can find a Travis ETN or Kenneth Walker in the running back market, now I'm starting to buy into this because the offensive line is mostly coming back. I think the offense is a couple tweaks away from getting a little bit better. And then pass rush is the number one thing that they need. And so in this offseason, specifically based on what's available in free agency and where they're drafting, I do think they have an opportunity to feel different by the midpoint of this season than they did by the midpoint of last season.
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Colin Cowherd
Okay, so we're showing the television audience FS1 audience, the current NFL draft order 1 to 14. I feel like the Giants could get a tackle at 8, 9. If they could move down two or three spots, they would. They do. They need a right tackle and another weapon. I really, I, I'm, I'm a believer in the Giants. I think they're going to get really good, really quick. Is there a team to you if I said, Robert, we got a major move in the top 14 up or down, is there one guess you'd have.
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Robert Mays
I'm interested in Dallas. They've got those two first round picks. They've got a few more picks this year. Is there an edge rusher they love? Is there a linebacker that they love like Sonny Styles had a phenomenal combine yesterday. The off ball linebacker. That is a desperate need for this Dallas team. So because they have some more draft capital this year, are they willing to be a little bit more aggressive than they would be in another season? That's the team I would keep an eye on just because I think that they desperately need a high end defensive talent in some way. And I wonder if they're worried about some of those guys getting to them
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Colin Cowherd
at 12 yesterday it was interesting. Dan Orlovsky who I think does a great job. He's very funny. He said something that was viewed as controversial. He said, I'm looking at the first seven or eight games and Ty Simpson's better than Fernando Mendoza. But it should be noted that Simpson was really good early. But over the course of the season he had no running game like at all. People got dinged up. He is more athletic I think than Mendoza and he has a very good arm. Now Mendoza got much better about week five on, you know, he was really a remarkable player. So that got a lot of pushback. But there is an argument that he had a great coach in Calyn DeBoer. He was very good last year with no running game over the course of the season. Alabama just wasn't as talented in the nil era. They just don't have as many good players and so he had to carry a less talented team. We saw him play Indiana, Indiana and more good players. So my take is I could see the Rams late in first round saying, listen, Stafford signs a two year deal. This kid's not ready to play, sit and watch a master prep and do all the film stuff. Or, or, or, and even if he, if he's like 33rd or 38th on somebody's board. Robert, People reach on quarterbacks all the time. It's like the one thing we kind of build in. You can reach in a quarterback. Do you hear things, do you think things. It's a terrible market. I mean again, Malik Willis, Mac Jones, I think that leads to a bit of a reach on Simpson maybe, possibly.
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Robert Mays
I wouldn't, I'm never surprised by that. I mean Jackson Dart was not supposed to be like a consensus first round pick last year. Remember around this time around the Senior bowl we're like, who's going to be that next quarterback? And maybe people were talking themselves into Jackson Darth, the Giants take a dice roll on him at the end of the first round and at least so far it looks like a worthwhile bet. Yeah, if you don't have a quarterback, just take shots. Just keep taking shots. Tyler Schuck wasn't somebody that people were excited about heading into last year's draft necessarily. He goes 40th overall, which is a wasteland for quarterbacks historically. He looks good. If I were a Saints fan, I'd be excited about Tyler Schuck. And so I think that more often than not it is worth drafting these guys a little bit higher because let's say you miss on a guy in the second round if you don't have a quarterback, I think that's a downside you're willing to embrace because the upside is absolutely enormous.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah. Robert Mace, by the way, our staff don't say it publicly, but I'm looking for a restaurant recommendation in Chicago tonight, and nobody has better wrecks than Robert. So, Robert, thank you for stopping by the show. As always, you were money, and I appreciate your feedback.
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Robert Mays
I've got them ready for you, so just let me know.
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Colin Cowherd
Okay. Robert Mays. He does great work. Yeah, it's. You know, it's like, there's certain things that you should just spend the money on. And even if it's a little uncomfortable, like, I'll give you an example, a mattress. Just spend the extra money. It's better for your back. It's better for your sleep. Just. Just overspending a mattress, you're like, oh, my God, I can't believe. Just spend on a mattress, you'll sleep better, you'll be more alert, you'll be a better parent, you'll be a happier person. You'll be a better partner. It's good for your back. And the thing about quarterbacks is, like, you can reach. It's not like you're taking a guy third. But I keep saying this with, like, Arizona. I think Arizona should. Should get Malik Willis or Ty Simpson. You don't want to be the number three pick. I think they should call the Raiders, and it's. They got a stink in the building. It doesn't feel right with Kyler Murray. But my take is If Arizona's at 3 and could move down to, say, 8, I mean, just, you know, just say, hey, we'll take a four, and then somebody. And then you move down to 11 and you say, you reach, like, 25 spots for Ty Simpson. You don't have to play him his first year. But I thought, you know, Tyler Schuck's a great example. None of us liked him. I watched him last year, and I'm like, he's pretty good. I mean, Lee Willis, everybody was cool on. I don't know. I watched him in Green Bay. I have a heart. I watched. I've watched every significant stat for Malik Willis, every significant snap. Great athlete, accurate thrower, can clearly learn an offense quickly. I don't know. I think if I was Arizona's coach, offensive guy from McVeigh. I look at that and think, he moves. He's got an arm. He's a little small, but he can move the pocket. I don't know. I think he's talented.
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J. Mac
Colin, by the way, if he gets 32 million, he's getting a nearly a million for every pass he attempted last season. 35 pass attempts. That's it. A quick note because I looked it up after the guest said Jackson Dart and Tyler Schuck. So Jackson Dart was a three year starter in college. Three years of starting at Ole Miss. Tyler Schuck, we may have forgotten this. He was in college for seven years. Yeah, seven years.
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Colin Cowherd
He was there for a hot lunch program, I think. Yeah. So.
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J. Mac
So again, those guys have way more experience than Ty Simpson. He only had 17 starts.
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Colin Cowherd
Ty Simpson, you could look it up, but I think he sat for two or three years. Yeah. So I mean, it's like Mac Jones, by the way, didn't start for a ton of years and was a pro Bowler right out of the chute because Mac Jones had been in the Alabama ecosystem with Saban and good coaching.
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J. Mac
Yeah, fair point.
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Colin Cowherd
I mean if you go from Nick Saban coaching to Kaylin DeBoer and Ty Simpson got both, that is a masterclass in college football coaching.
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J. Mac
Yeah, it's weird. I like remember how much I like Tyler Ty Simpson during the season. He's got a nice winning me bets. He was amazing in the fourth quarter and then he faded late in the season. You're like, oh, is this the real him? Now we have a season full of tape on him and he was totally bottled up. He kind of got embarrassed by Indiana.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah. But you know what, let's be honest. Alabama didn't have that many good players.
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J. Mac
They went into the season with the kid, Ryan Williams, who was supposed to be a superstar, he regressed badly.
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Colin Cowherd
I mean, so if you watched Alabama play Indiana, I thought Indiana had more good players.
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J. Mac
Not even close yet. Notre Dame should have been in the playoff over Alabama. Alabama's not that good. I. It's weird. I'm not bashing Ty Simpson. I'm just saying I had wanted the jets to get a quarterback in the first. No way. Now I want two Ohio State guys. Honestly, I would love Reese and Sonny Styles at 16, Reese at 2, Styles at 16.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah, maybe you'll be able to get one interception next year if you draft those two.
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J. Mac
Thanks for the reminder, buddy.
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Colin Cowherd
By February, by the way, thanks to the staff I have about once a year I have a coughing attack and I don't know where it came from, but thank they say they threw me a life preserver.
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Colin Cowherd
Welcome back. The average user yesterday on that AI calling had seven different exchanges. Some of you spent over an hour on it. So we'll give you a heads up later in this hour. Good stuff. Appreciate it. I think it's useful and it's a lot of fun. I messed around with it yesterday. J. Mack with the news. No no, no, turn on the news.
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J. Mac
NFLPA report cards and the packers are an interesting team that is slowly declining. I guess they were seventh last year in overall rankings and have fallen to 21st. It was the steepest year over year decline of any team. The drop off is largely driven by their decline in grades for training room and training staff which are now graded out as bottom third in the league.
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Colin Cowherd
I've always heard the packers treat their players well.
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J. Mac
Yeah, it's weird. Like the Steelers and the packers now all of a sudden stink according to the report.
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Colin Cowherd
Well, they're not big money teams. Pittsburgh's owners and Green Bay doesn't have an owner per se. So they, you know, I mean the big ownership groups, the money teams are San Francisco, Philadelphia, Los Angeles, you know, those are some of your richer owners. Atlanta's got money. Some of these owners, these old school owners, you know, the Chargers and the Rams may both be in Los Angeles, but the Rams have a lot more money than the Chargers because Stan Kroenke is, I think he's the biggest landowner in America. So you know, it's a different ballgame. Some of the, I know they're all billionaires but you know, like Steven Ross is one of the richest owners. They have unbelievable facilities in Miami.
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J. Mac
Yeah, I don't take what you want out of these report cards. Apparently Matt LaFleur got a B minus. Like he's one of the better coaches in the league. Jim Harbaugh got a crappy Grade Aaron Glenn got an A.
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Colin Cowherd
Like Aaron Glenn got an A. Yeah.
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J. Mac
I mean, come on. What are we doing?
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Robert Mays
Report cards.
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J. Mac
Read into them what you want, but, you know, packers sliding. We'll see. Maybe no free agents. Want to go there, Colin?
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J. Mac
I don't think there's any data to back it up.
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Colin Cowherd
Let me see these report cards. Let me look at the packers grades here. This isn't bad. It's a bunch of A's, B's, and C's.
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J. Mac
I mean, if your kid got that on their report card, you'd be like, all right, that's fine. You got to do better.
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Colin Cowherd
That I'd be overjoyed.
- [31:39]
J. Mac
Really? I thought you had a couple of Rhodes Scholars in the family there, huh? Maybe not.
- [31:43]
Colin Cowherd
Hit the road, Scholars, maybe.
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J. Mac
All right, let's move on to the Philadelphia Eagles. Colin. And as the world turns, we wait for AJ Brown, something to happen with him. But the story until that moves is Jalen Hurts and Nick Sirianni. Obviously, there's a new oc, but the latest report is all these OC candidates. There were a million of them. I think I saw 18 new offensive coordinators around the league. A lot of them passed on. Even interviewing with the Eagles. They like, no, thanks. I'm not interested in the job. Well, there's concerns over Hertz, and there's concerns over Sirianni, and it feels like an unstable situation.
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Colin Cowherd
Seems to me that concerns are mostly with Jalen Hurts.
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J. Mac
Yeah. So what does Warren Buffett say? Like, when. When everybody's afraid of something, you need to run there. You need to go to the Eagles. That's a Super bowl team, super bowl winning team, Colin.
- [32:33]
Colin Cowherd
So offensive coordinators do not buy into Jalen Hurts. You know what coaches buy into? Justin Herbert. Mike McDaniel had his pick of jobs. He moved cross country to the expensive LA market. Jalen hurts, and the Eagles can't get a coordinator. What does that tell you?
- [32:55]
J. Mac
You think South Beach McDaniel would have fit in Philly? I think he's a perfect.
- [32:59]
Colin Cowherd
Beach McDaniels knows what everybody in the league does. Yeah. Despite the fact that one quarterback has a Super bowl and the other had. Can't win a playoff game. Herbert's the much better player. And the coordinators, you know, so I
- [33:11]
J. Mac
would agree with you on that. Yes.
- [33:12]
Robert Mays
Yeah.
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Colin Cowherd
I mean, it's. It's. It's obvious that, you know, there's concerns about Sirianni, which is true. I've been told that. And there's concerns over Jalen Hurts.
- [33:20]
J. Mac
I don't know, I just. I don't know what all these people are afraid of. I mean, you've got a guy who's won a Super bowl and went to
- [33:26]
Colin Cowherd
another C over the middle of the field. He's got the lowest.
- [33:32]
J. Mac
That's what you do. That's what you. You do. You help him help the quarterback figure,
- [33:36]
Colin Cowherd
what are you going to give him, platform shoes?
- [33:38]
J. Mac
I mean, he's not one of the shortest quarterbacks in the league. What?
- [33:41]
Colin Cowherd
Yeah, he is.
- [33:43]
J. Mac
Jalen Hurts.
- [33:44]
Colin Cowherd
Yes. One of the shortest quarterbacks in the league.
- [33:48]
J. Mac
Okay, I'll need to see the data to back that up. I mean, it wasn't a problem when they were winning Super Bowls and winning the division.
- [33:54]
Colin Cowherd
Well, they were. They won one super bowl and they had the best running game in the league with the best offensive line in the league.
- [33:59]
J. Mac
I mean, he threw for like 300 yards against the Chiefs, but it's neither here nor there. Let's wrap up, call him with the NBA. Oh, boy, this guy. I'm surprised you didn't bash him to start the show. Deandre Ayton. Oh, go. I mean, listen, gave an interview to Dave McBenamin and said a bunch of nonsense, essentially saying, they want to turn me into Clint Capella. I mean, who do you think you are, Jabbar? Deandre Ayton is delusional.
- [34:21]
Colin Cowherd
And of course Clint Capella is a good player.
- [34:24]
J. Mac
Yes, he was awesome in Houston. The perfect. He would be ideal with Luka, block shots and rim run for dunks.
- [34:31]
Robert Mays
Right.
- [34:31]
J. Mac
That's what Luca did with Gaffer.
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Colin Cowherd
Here's what's fun about DeAndre. They didn't like him in Arizona. I don't like him in Phoenix. They didn't like him in Portland. They don't love him in la. Nope. So it's like he is. And he, you know, as a number one pick out of University of Arizona, he's been a disappointment. Nobody's been happy with him. I mean, and it's always was the same question on Dion Raton. You get, you get the dog about, you know, in spurts, but you don't ne. You never really know the effort you're going to get. Like, he's a very inconsistent some guy. Times he's focused, sometimes he's not. Sometimes you got great energy, Sometimes there are lapses. There are halves in games. You don't. So it's always been the same thing. He's got some offensive gifts, he's got good size. He's athletic, but not much of a defensive player. And he is completely Hit and miss on effort and energy.
- [35:25]
J. Mac
I think that's a great analysis because you just don't. You can't play with luka, Doncic and LeBron and show up every three games with the dog mentality. I mean, Colin, this, this guy's been Clint Capella, who he was like derisively referred to. He went on social media and wrote this. You got two of the best floor general in the game. My dog lock in. Like that's what any basketball player is saying. How are you not locked in playing with Luka and LeBron? Two generations.
- [35:51]
Colin Cowherd
Let me tell you about this. The guy's like 6:11 and athletic. In 23 minutes last night, oh gosh, he had two points, no blocks, and a team worst plus minus of minus 24. So it was a. And by the way, you think going to Phoenix against the team, he'd be all fired up and all laser, zoned in. Anyway, it was one of his worst games of the year.
- [36:15]
J. Mac
Unbelievable. Just such a disappointment. Now listen, I will, I'll defend it. For most of the season he's been fine. And at $8 million this year, he's a bargain. I mean, listen, Dorian, Finney Smith is getting I think 15 million from this, from the Rockets. Remember he was with the Lakers last year and good. And it's like, yikes, that's a horrible contract. He's playing terribly. So Ayton should show up. And of course he's not J. Mac with the news.
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Colin Cowherd
You know, Chris, Bruce Sardo says that your game is your game. You know, deandre Ayton's game, I loved him in college. Big, ran the floor, super athletic, nice offensive promise. But you know, you kind of know, I mean, you say after a guy's been in the league like three years, you just give me a name and I'll tell you what, he is so like, like Austin Reaves has gotten better for the Lakers. No question. He's a hard worker. He's gotten better, but from the very beginning he was a foul creator. He was an aggressive offensive player for his size and athletic ability. Pretty damn good finisher. Had a nice shooting touch. He got better, but his game was his game. Handled the ball well. Limited athletically, but a foul shot creator. A nice, creative offensive player who works very, very hard to get better with a cool headband. But you knew what Austin Reeves was four years ago. He's just a better version of it. So with deandre Ayton, I kind of feel like the Sun's version went to Portland, now moved back to the warm weather, and it's the same guy in Chicago. It's the Herd.
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Colin Cowherd
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Colin Cowherd
Hey, I want to promote this one more time for just a couple of minutes. Go to the fox sports app. 90 seconds to download. Go to the Fox Sports app. When you see it, go to the lower right side, the lower right tab and touch on sports AI. My face will pop up. It's a lot of fun. Usage went up over a thousand percent yesterday when we told you about it. There were some people, the average exchange was seven exchanges. Some people spent more than an hour on it. I messed around with it last night. JMAX show folks. So the company took two years of my opening rants, put it into this thing, and if you like to doodle around, you have questions. It's pretty thorough. So give the audience a sample of JMac, what it does, every play, every stat, every storyline. I've got it all. What do you want to know?
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J. Mac
How far will the US go in the World cup
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Colin Cowherd
quarterfinals? Is the bar. And it's realistic. This group is friendly. You're at home. And Mauricio Pochettino was hired for nights like this. Get out of group Daniel, win the round of 32 and then the round of 16 is where the sport's grown ups usually show up and start squeezing you. Christian Pulisic has to be the guy who turns possession into goals, not just good moments. So let me ask you, do you trust them to handle a low block when Everybody's playing for a 00 draw? Okay, I'm pretty smart. Sounds pretty smart to me. What's the next one?
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J. Mac
Would Colin and the Bears coach be friends?
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Colin Cowherd
Ben Johnson is the intense, detail obsessed grinder and Collins the guy who wants the big picture and the big argument. They'd respect each other, they'd laugh for about five minutes and then they'd start debating practice habits and quarterback accountability. That's not a friendship. That's a weekly sparring session. Different wiring, different fuel. Okay, that's pretty good. Got any more?
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J. Mac
Colin, what should I have for dinner tonight?
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Colin Cowherd
Go with a crock pot. Parmesan, garlic chicken pasta. Tonight. Warm, easy, and it eats like a win in February. You throw in chicken, cream cheese, heavy cream, parmesan, let it Ride for a few hours, then shred it and mix in the pasta. Dinner's done. Stress is gone. That's comfort food with a game plan. You want comfort and heavy or lighter and clean tonight? Well, J. Mac, that's your call on that. Ben Johnson and I apparently would not be friends, which is disappointing because I think I saw him at a restaurant about two weeks ago. The average user had seven exchanges. Go to the Fox Sports app, touch the lower, click the lower sports AI tab at the bottom of that. You'll see it. Really easy to do.
- [43:39]
J. Mac
I tried to get them to ask who would win in a round of golf between Colin and JMac. You keep ducking me. I'm willing to play. I haven't picked up a club in two years and I would still wipe the floor with.
- [43:49]
Colin Cowherd
Well, the clubs I play at, you have to wear collared shirts. And I'm not sure if you could. You got. You're doing gun show Laker Luca jersey. So I'm not sure that works.
- [43:57]
J. Mac
Grip it and rip it, baby.
- [43:58]
Colin Cowherd
Yeah. So we had Robert Mason from the athletic podcast. He's terrific. Earlier we were talking a little about the Cowboys. I can't nitpick them. They're spending all their money on offense. George Pickens, they're going to franchise tag him, which I'm not sure that's. That's going to land great for him. He wants a long term deal and he can be a bit moody. He was at Georgia, he was at Pittsburgh, he's at Dallas. But he's really, really good. And May's talk. I mean, my only knock on the Cowboys is they don't get a discount on anybody. You know, the Seahawks have seven or eight players, eight players that are stars. Darnold. And you're getting like real value Rams, half, 90% of their defense. They're not paying. And they're really good with the Cowboys. They impose their own tariffs, apparently 15% over the market. And here's Robert Mays on the situation with Dallas and Pickens.
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Robert Mays
Them not winning. When Dak was the cheapest contract in the NFL for a starting quarterback and probably the biggest bargain in the entire league, that was their best window. Now it just becomes harder. You can throw around money like the Eagles do in order to kind of stretch out these windows in a way that not every organization can. And so I think we're building to that. This sport spring and actually I like to see that from the Cowboys.
- [45:08]
Colin Cowherd
Yeah, yeah. I mean, listen, they're paying the right side of the ball and Tyler Smith was A great draft pick. Pickens and CD Lamb is up there with T. Higgins and Jamar Chase and Puka and Devonte Adams. I mean, you know, they got to restructure Dak, but Dax a more than serviceable quarterback, B plus or better on most Sundays. So that, and they've got an offensive coach. So they just, you know, Dallas is a weird spot. I, I, I have the New York Giants winning the division, Philadelphia second, Washington third and Dallas fourth. As of now. I just, they've got a hit on two defensive draft picks and they've got to stay healthy. I don't think they'll be awful. I think they'll be a six or a seven win team. But I think, I think Washington's going to rebound and I think the New York Giants have had a great off season. Kayvon Thibodeau, by the way, is up. I talked to Robert Mays about that. There will be a market for him once they got Brian Burns drafted. Abdul Carter, he's not nearly as valuable now, so he's their third pass rusher and he wants to get paid. You know, he's not a dominant player. He's not Max Crosby or Trey Hendrickson, but he's pretty good. So the former Oregon Duck will eventually land somewhere and I think there'll be a market for him. And I think that's just what's happened is that you have a lot of young GMs and they're, you know, it's, it's a much more aggressive space and the Caps going up. In fact, I think what I just saw this morning was a cap number over 300 million. Now, you know, Caps going through the roof. So, you know, there's money to spend if you have a quarterback like Drake May or Caleb Williams or Bo Nix or Jaden Daniels or Michael Pennix and you're on a rookie contract. Load up. I mean, I, I, there's, there's some players here. Travis Atn is a really good running back and Alec Pierce is a very good number two receiver. I think Kate Otten is a solid tight end. Linder Baum's a stud. Isaiah likely, you know, it's, he's an interesting player. Baltimore's probably going to have to let him go. There's, I asked you earlier, Jalen Phillips, I think the Eagles would like to retain his services, but there's some, there's some really good players. I'm not going to pay for an old Mike Evans, but there's some pretty interesting players on this list and guys that have a hit I mean, I don't see a ton of injuries on this list. Mike Evans gets banged up and I'll argue this. Malik Willis. I know I've only got six games, but there's about seven teams in this league, not every. Everybody always says, well, you know what? Next year's the good quarterbacks. Well, okay, that's great, but is everybody in your building capable of winning four games and not getting fired? Some of this stuff comes down to desperation. I mean, Kevin Stefanski's two time coach of the year, they draft Shador Sanders and Dylan, he's got a controversy on his hand to Sean Watson doesn't work. And all of a sudden you look up and two time coach of the year gets run in Cleveland. John Harbaugh thought he was safe. So, you know, it's really easy to say, well, Malik hasn't done it, folks. NFL owners now on a fairly regular basis, fire after a year. David Cully in Houston, that is now, because they're all billionaires. They're more impulsive. The more money they have. The caps going up, there's a lot of money to spend. I think. I think Malik Willis is going to get paid.
- [48:28]
J. Mac
Okay, Colin. So we started with Kayvon Thibodeau. I did not put this together. So 2022, the Giants had two picks in the top seven. The New York Giants, they got Kayvon Thibodeau at five, Evan Neil at seven.
- [48:41]
Colin Cowherd
Neil was a bust, major bust.
- [48:44]
J. Mac
Thibodeau, they're moving off of.
- [48:46]
Colin Cowherd
Hmm.
- [48:46]
J. Mac
Do you want to guess who the GM was who drafted both those guys? Top 10, take it. Wild guess. Yeah. So Harbaugh comes out and is now looking to move off Joe Shane, guys. Instantly. Dude, there's a lot of house cleaning going on with the New York Giants. Basically, Shane has been kneecapped. He can't do anything. You can't draft. You lose Saquon, you pay Daniel Jones, it's over for Santa.
- [49:10]
Colin Cowherd
New York. So the cap is 301. Officially. 301 million. That's 22 million over last year. So that's a couple good players. Malik Willis is going to get 30 million somewhere. I don't know. I, you know, we'll see. 30 mil.
- [49:27]
J. Mac
Wow. Justin Fields didn't even get that.
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