THE HERD - Hour 2 - Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce announce their engagement, Super Bowl tiers, Bruce Feldman

Summary

The Herd with Colin Cowherd — Hour 2 (August 26, 2025)

Hosts: Jason McIntyre & Rachel Nichols (in for Colin Cowherd)
Guest: Bruce Feldman (Fox Sports College Football Analyst)

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Episode Overview

Hour 2 of The Herd dives into breaking pop culture sports news—Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce’s engagement—followed by Jason McIntyre's “Super Bowl Tiers.” The episode features expert analysis from Bruce Feldman on massive college football matchups and roster stories, while Rachel Nichols and Jason banter through major NFL headlines (Kelce/Swift, Cowboys contracts, Lions woes, and 49ers confidence).
Tone: Opinionated, fast-paced, playful, and insightful.

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Main Segments & Timestamps

1. Super Bowl Tiers: Debate & Reactions

[02:21 - 07:28]

• Jason McIntyre unveils his annual Super Bowl contender tier list, forecasting major NFL shakeups and lighting up fanbases.
• Rachel Nichols (wearing "Taylor Swift red") reacts with surprise, particularly to Jason's Chiefs prediction.

Jason’s Super Bowl Tiers:

Tier 1: “For Sure” Contenders

• Ravens, Bills, Eagles (defending champs), 49ers
  • “It's a schedule-based prediction... The 49ers should be in the for-sure Super Bowl contender list.” (Jason, [03:07])

Tier 2: “For Real” Contenders

• Packers, Falcons, Broncos, Rams, Bengals
  • “I have the Packers in the for real category… Denver Broncos in the four real category, that defense should be the best in the league.” (Jason, [04:10])

Tier 3: “For Now” Contenders

• Chiefs, Lions, Washington, Chargers
  • “For now, the Kansas City Chiefs are a Super bowl contender. Yes, I had them missing the playoffs… Travis Kelce—not going to use the washed word. Oops, I just did.” (Jason, [05:29])

Tier 4: “For Your Consideration”

• Cardinals, Texans, Jaguars (“my surprise team”), Vikings

  • “Yes, I’m buying JJ McCarthy and those are my super bowl contender tiers.” (Jason, [06:39])

• Memorable Quotes:

  • [03:12] Rachel: “Taylor Swift red, by the way.”
  • [05:29] Jason: “Travis Kelce—not going to use the washed word. Oops, I just did.”

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2. Bruce Feldman Joins: College Football Preview & Insights

[07:32 - 24:15]

Key Discussions:

• Texas vs. Ohio State / Arch Manning’s Debut

  • “[Texas] was knocked out of the playoff last year by the Buckeyes… now you have the Arch Manning factor.” (Bruce, [07:34])
  • Matt Patricia as new Ohio State DC; Caleb Downs as best defensive player in the country ([08:32])

• Arch Manning’s Role & Texas O-Line Inexperience
  “[It’s] a lot of new guys and it's a tough road environment.” (Bruce, [08:32])

• Why Arch Didn't Play in Key Games Last Year

  • “I wouldn’t read too much in anything that happened last year with that Texas team.” (Bruce, [10:16])

• Miami vs. Notre Dame Preview

  • “[Notre Dame] defense is stacked… But again, new quarterback. That place can be pretty loud.” (Bruce, [11:42])

• Quarterback Evaluations & Coaches’ Optimism

  • [13:12] Bruce: “You definitely do [hear negative things from coaches], but those are the things you shy away from bringing up.”

• Clemson vs. LSU Playoff Stakes

  • “[Garrett] Nussmeier is more of a gunslinger… They had four offensive linemen who played in the Senior Bowl...” (Bruce, [15:22])
  • Clemson’s D-line “is filthy… Peter Woods... I think he'll be a top five pick.” (Bruce, [16:19])

• Playoff Predictions & Program Culture

  • Iowa State as Bruce’s surprise playoff pick: “Matt Campbell over the last couple years has been one of the most conservative coaches… And he was like, scrap that. I trust my guys to come through.” (Bruce, [19:21])

Memorable Moments:

• [15:11] Jason: "I'm a little nervous about the Clemson pick now because now I see that you're on the bandwagon."
• [17:19] Bruce makes the case for Iowa State's playoff run.
• [22:22] Discussion about Bryce Underwood, Michigan's new QB: "He's a true freshman quarterback and there is not a ton of elite talent around him on offense." (Bruce)

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3. BREAKING: Taylor Swift & Travis Kelce’s Engagement (Pop Culture-Sports Bombshell)

[24:16 - 26:43; 31:25 - 34:56; 44:45 - 46:32]

• Jason and Rachel react live to the engagement announcement:

  • "Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce are engaged." (Jason, [24:16])
  • Rachel: “Shoot your shot. It's never too long a shot.” ([26:09])
  • Jason: "This is going to be the next royal wedding here..." ([31:25])

• Cultural Take:

  • Both host’s families—especially with teenage daughters—are excited (“I went to the [Taylor Swift] concert. It was fire.” Jason, [25:24]; “Come on. This is like target demo central.” Rachel, [25:19])
  • Rachel recalls the origin story: Kelce’s proactive approach sparked their romance (“He went on his own podcast and put out the call... and it worked.” [25:33])

• Swift-Kelce Relationship Details:

  • Lived together ("I don't think it's been a weekend... They spend a lot of time together." Rachel, [33:05])
  • Taylor’s NFL learning curve and true fandom (“She started running through the house screaming, ‘We drafted Xavier Worthy!’ ...she’s clearly into it.” [34:12])
  • Jason jokes: “Travis Kelce used to look like a guy who sold vape cartridges behind 7 11 and now he's marrying the most famous person in the world.” ([34:56])

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4. NFL Headlines: Contracts & Team Previews

[35:00 - 40:36]

• Cowboys’ Contract Drama (Micah Parsons & Jerry Jones):

  • Dak Prescott’s confidence in Parsons’ readiness for Week 1 ([35:54])
  • Both hosts see Cowboys’ contract brinksmanship as a potentially damaging sideshow (“This is... not just good for the Cowboys. Bottom line, it's not good for the team.” Rachel, [36:43])

• 49ers’ Approach:

  • John Lynch’s faith echoes Rams/Bills’ strategies during roster reshuffles.
  • “I think the 49ers are going to be really good this year.” (Jason, [38:09])

• Preseason Woes for the Lions:

  • Dan Campbell’s admission: “That’s an issue… all four of these games have not been good.” (Jason, [39:07])
  • Questions fly about Jared Goff and OC transitions: “How much of it the past couple years was him? How much it was the coordinator?” (Rachel, [40:28])

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5. More Engagement Fallout & NFL Topics

[44:45 - 48:51]

• More on Kelce-Swift:

  • “This is huge. This is large even for die hard sports fans.” (Jason, [45:07])
  • Rachel discusses family background & speculation around Swift’s possible Super Bowl performance—but notes it’s unlikely she’ll perform while Kelce is still active. ([45:50])

• Micah Parsons Holdout Redux:

  • Jason and guest Matt Mosley agree: Cowboys always cave at the last moment (“Every one of these holdouts end in the Cowboys capitulating, right? …Every CD, they all end in the deals getting done.” Covino and Rich/Mosley, [47:47])
  • Jason’s take: “I just can't get concerned with this Micah Parsons thing… Is there a way we can build this in so next year... these deals always get done?” ([48:04])

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Notable Quotes (with Attribution & Timestamps)

• Rachel Nichols, on Swift/Kelce:

  • “Shoot your shot. It's never too long a shot.” ([26:09])

• Jason McIntyre, on his own fandom:

  • “I went to the [Taylor Swift] concert. It was fire. It was amazing. The best concert I've ever seen.” ([25:24])

• Bruce Feldman, on college football coaching talk:

  • “You definitely do [hear negative things from coaches], but those are the things you shy away from bringing up.” ([13:12])

• Jason McIntyre, on Lions preseason:

  • “I think that’s an issue, right? Because all of a sudden the lights are on… that's a little bit, you know, that could be a little bit concerning.” ([39:03])

• Rachel Nichols, on NFL contract drama:

  • “This isn't just not good for the Cowboys. Bottom line, it's not good for the team.” ([36:43])

• Jason McIntyre, Cowboys and Cautionary Tales:

  • “As long as Jerry Jones is running the show, this is just how it’s gonna be. It’s gonna be a knockdown, drag out battle till the very last minute. Then it’s going to get done.” ([48:04])

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Episode Takeaways

• Super Bowl race is wide open: Jason’s bold tiers stir the pot, with the Chiefs demoted and surprise teams like the Packers and Jaguars on the rise.
• College football is poised for a blockbuster kickoff: Bruce Feldman frames Texas-Ohio State and other clashes as all-time matchups, spotlighting QB stories and coaching transitions.
• Micah Parsons’ holdout and Cowboys contract soap operas continue, but history says the deal gets done.
• Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce’s engagement crosses into sports talk territory as a pop culture moment with “royal wedding” energy and resonant life lessons (“shoot your shot!”).
• NFL preseason and coaching changes have teams like the Lions and 49ers at crossroads.

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For listeners wanting sharp sports analysis, playful banter, and cultural crossover, this episode delivers—a blend of NFL projections, college insight, and pure Swiftie joy.

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End of Summary

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[Jason McIntyre]

Now let's get this party. You're listening to Fox Sports radio, our number two here on the herd. It's me, Jason McIntyre, joined by Rachel Nichols. We are in for cowherd. Oh boy. I my plug in was not really working there but now we're fine. Rachel, I'm about to unveil my super bowl tears. It's gonna make a certain fan base very upset.

[Rachel Nichols]

I'm not gonna lie, I've tears.

[Jason McIntyre]

I'm a little worried about you so it's funny. Rachel is very caught off guard and she's wearing chief's red, I believe today. She was caught off guard yesterday by the Chiefs in the meeting and like laughing and I was like, oh yeah, Rachel, nice. And then today when I unveiled my tears, she was really caught off guard. So listen, Bruce.

[Rachel Nichols]

Taylor Swift read, by the way.

[Jason McIntyre]

Taylor.

[Rachel Nichols]

Oh, Taylor Swift pointing it out.

[Jason McIntyre]

Apologies. Yes. So Bruce Feldman, my guy, he's coming up in five minutes talking about. Yeah, college football, Notre Dame, Miami. We need to talk a little more about that. Anyways, let me do my super bowl tears. All right folks, here we. Here we go. So we have four tiers of the teams that can win the super bowl and let's get started, shall we? All right, tier number one fo show for sure. These teams are the elite, the best of the best. Baltimore Ravens, no doubt about it, need no explanation. Josh Allen's Buffalo Bills. The Philadelphia Eagles, the defending super bowl champs. I don't need to explain those three. Now the Niners, some people are going to be surprised by. I'm just going to, let's be obvious, don't read too much into what happened last season. They were a mass unit and I know the wide receiver room has some issues currently. They're going to be fine. Okay. This is a schedule based prediction. That's why they're super bowl contenders. I also like to move bringing back Robert Saleh. Go look at the quarterbacks they face this year, guys. It is a cakewalk. They should be fine. I think they'll probably get the number one or two seed in the NFC. The 49ers should be in the for sure super bowl contender list. All right, let's go to the second tier, A little larger, a little more robust. The Green Bay Packers. Yes, I have the packers in the for real category joined by the Atlanta Falcons. I don't mind revealing when I was in Vegas last week, I bet the Falcons to win the division and yes, win the nfc. A bit of a flyer. The offensive line injuries has me concerned right now. But nevertheless, Denver Broncos in the four real category that defense should be the best in the league. And I think the Knicks Peyton combo is much better than I thought. LA Rams, fourth in the four reel category. They probably could get bumped up to one now that Stafford's fine. But as Rachel noted, the left tackle situation some cause for concern. And I'm going to put the Bengals here because Burrow's not going to stop chucking and ducking. He is just going to keep throwing to keep the Bengals in every game. And I do believe offense should keep them in the super bowl contending category. Let's go to the third tier of super bowl contenders. Hey, there they are.

[Rachel Nichols]

Here we go.

[Jason McIntyre]

For now, the Kansas City Chiefs are a Super bowl contender. Yes, I had them missing the playoffs. Yes, the tackles are an issue. I don't care how good the Ohio State kids looked in practice. It's a long season, folks. The running back situation is dicey. Travis Kelce not going to use the washed word. Oops, I just did. I think he'll be okay. But let's see, it's a full season in the playoffs and then of course the defense, I mean Jalen hurts. Just put a number on him in the super bowl and you look at that tape of that and you're like, oh, there's holes all over the place. I have Detroit in four now. I also have them missing the playoffs. I know that's going to make people upset. Washington in the 4. Now as we talked about yesterday, Rachel noted the defense is very old, has a lot of questions. I think the offense keeps it in gains and I'm going to have the Chargers here. I really like the Chargers. They're a bit more sleeper now that Slater's out for the season. Let's go to the final category. Super bowl contenders. For your consideration, the Arizona Cardinals. I have him in the playoffs. Houston Texans. I just don't love them. They got entire new offensive line. Yes, the defense will keep them in gains. Yes, the divisions. Eh, but I, that offensive line has me really nervous. I have Jacksonville here. They're my surprise team in the, in the afc. I think that offense isn't going to rival the Bengals, but I think it's going to be very, very good. And oh my gosh, this, this can't be real. And then finally for your consideration, the Minnesota Vikings. Yes, I'm buying JJ McCarthy and those are my super bowl contender tiers. So listen, there's some news breaking. I don't know, is this, Are we sure about this? Come on guys, I don't want to go with that if it's not accurate. So let's bring on Bruce Feldman, my guy college football analyst, covers the sport for fox. Bruce in his just awesome family room there, looking sharp as ever, new haircut, ready for the season. Bruce, what's the excitement level for you? Texas, Ohio State.

[Bruce Feldman]

Can't wait, Jason. I mean this is the best week one we've ever had in college football. You have a one verse two matchup as obviously you remember Texas was knocked out of the playoff last year by the Buckeyes. And now you have the Arch Manning factor. You have new coordinators at Ohio State on both sides of the ball, including Matt Patricia, who's never really coached in college football. And now he's got a def. Darch. That's huge. You got a, you know, two other top 10 matchups later that weekend. I mean, it's.

[Jason McIntyre]

All right, let, let me just quickly ask about this Matt Patricia. He is the rocket scientist, if memory serves, from his days in New England, Detroit. Matt Patricia, kind of a divisive figure, but as you said, he's had all off season to prepare for Arch. He's also got maybe the best defensive player in the country in downs. I, I think they kind of bottle up the Texas offense here. Bruce, what's your read on that one?

[Bruce Feldman]

It's going to be interesting to see. What kind of answers does he have? Does he do a lot of what Jim Knowles, who was the offense, the defense coordinator last year, did such a good job for Ohio State, as you mentioned, Caleb Downs, their safety. I think he's the best defensive player in the country. He's just a unique chess piece because he's so smart and what they can do with him. They have two elite linebackers who are really special athletes in sunny styles and Arvell Reese. The D line is, is mostly new, right? They have talent there, but it's new guys. The part that I think I'm most curious about in this game is it's not just Arch. It's four new starters on the offensive line. You lost a top 10 pick who's now with the Saints at left tackle. It's a lot of new guys and it's a tough road environment. I mean, we'll see how Patricia does, you know, long term this season. It reminds me a little bit of a similar situation Texas faced early last year on the road when they went to Michigan. Wink Martindale, who hadn't been in college, he stepped in it at Michigan and it was, it was a mismatch. Sark vs Wink Martindale early in the year. Sark's still there. He has a more mobile quarterback, albeit less experienced than Quinn Ewers. And it's also a new offensive line, though. And that's the part where I'm fascinated to see how Arch does behind a new group that is going to be feeling its way out in a very hostile setting.

[Jason McIntyre]

Let me ask you, Bruce, are you surprised that Arch did not throw a pass at all in the SEC championship game or the two playoff Games. They had a couple running packages for him, but not one pass. To me, to an outsider, that's kind of a lack of confidence in him getting it done in a big spot. Or was there a dynamic with Quinn Ewers that maybe I don't understand?

[Bruce Feldman]

No, I just think it's in the moment. Look, when, when mid season Georgia comes in there and they are slaughtering Texas, they bench yours. Give Arch a chance. Arch gave him a spark for a second and then Georgia just overwhelmed him too. I think I wouldn't read too much in anything that happened last year with that Texas team. You know, remember the year before Texas came very close to playing for the national title. They lost to Washington and Michael Penix. You know, it wasn't like yours is a scrub, yours has played a lot. He, you know, he, he operated well at times in the offense and I think it was just about like, hey, let's make sure when Arch is really ready, he's ready to go. And I think having an all off, a full off season to, to kind of grow into this position and get ready, I think it's probably ideal for them. But I, you know, again, I wouldn't. You can always second guess play callers on both sides of the ball. I wouldn't, you know, Steve Sarkeeson's as good as there is in college football, especially in like third down stuff and different, you know, things obviously you can. Hindsight is 20 20. I'm sure there's a bunch of calls in that game. Sark would have loved to have back, but credit to Jim Knowles, he had answers.

[Jason McIntyre]

Yeah, let's go to Miami. Notre Dame, obviously a rich history between these two. I'm on the Irish here, but there are some questions about Notre Dame at quarterback. Their defense is stacked. Love the running back. Where are you on this matchup?

[Bruce Feldman]

Yeah, it's not just the running back you're talking about. Jeremiah Love is fantastic. That running back room is deep behind him. J.D. price, they have some young backs they really like, but again, C.J. carr, you know, he's a talented passer, but this is his first big test, right? And they're going to Miami and this is a completely new defense. And I'm not saying how it's going to go for Matt Patricia or not, but in Corey Heatherman have a much more experienced college defensive coordinator who's stepping in. Miami was awful on defense last year. They were explosive on offense with Cam Ward. I think Miami is going to be much improved this year because of the defensive side of the ball and I think everything I've heard out of Coral Gables has been very positive on how Corey Heatherman has changed things. I think this is a tricky spot for the Irish. They're talented, as you said. But again, new quarterback. That place can be pretty loud. It's not the old Orange Bowl. But ask. Ask players on the. On the Notre Dame team that got blown off the field, like, 48 to 7, like when Manny Diaz was there. That place can get loud in the right spot, and I expect it to later this weekend. And again, Carson Beck is now the starter at Miami. There's been a lot of positive reports coming out of there from the coaches. I know there's. They have a really good offensive line. I would not at all be surprised if Miami beats them this weekend.

[Jason McIntyre]

All right, I got to ask, Bruce. You're like the coaches positive on Carson. Have you ever got preseason negative stuff from coaches on a quarterback?

[Bruce Feldman]

I mean, yeah, definitely. It's. Oh, it's. You definitely do. But those are the things you shy away from bringing up and saying, oh, yeah, coaches are kind of skittish. Skittish about this guy. I mean, maybe. Maybe some of the stuff you talk about around it may come up, but there's definitely a bunch of stuff where you end up in the back of your head. And sometimes you talk about it. You know, we have podcasts where we'll talk a little bit more about the stuff I might be concerned about at Ohio State or the stuff I might be concerned about on this team or that team. But, you know, you. You. You kind of balance all the information you get.

[Jason McIntyre]

Okay, so does Beck lose the game with a pick or a strip sack, fumble? How does he blow this one? I just don't have a lot of faith in the guy. And this is coming from somebody last year at this time who was like, oh, yeah, Carson Beck, he's got to be the favorite to go number one in the draft.

[Bruce Feldman]

Yeah, I know. I wouldn't get so over your skis on the draft component of this, because that's what people thought. And then, you know what happened. Brock Bowers went to the NFL, and lad McConkey went to the NFL, and the receiving group beneath him wasn't very good. And he pressed. I mean, right now, he's got a really good offensive line. He's got an elite running back in Jordan Lyles, and they have a lot of young talent at receiver. So, you know, again, I know this. The Ravens offensive coordinator, Todd Monken, who had Beck early on, was very effusive in how Smart he is, how quick his release is and all those things. I mean look, give a lot of credit also to Shannon Dawson, Miami's OC because going into last year the NFL had a fifth round grade on Cam Ward. Where did he end up getting drafted a couple of months ago, first overall. I'm not saying it was, it was all Shannon Dawson, but Shannon Dawson, the offense quarter knows what he's doing and I would expect Carson Beck will have a pretty big year in this system.

[Jason McIntyre]

That's good, good insight. Let's go to the other matchup. Lsu, Clemson. Another bet that I made was Clemson undefeated regular season. Obviously if they clear this hurdle, they're favored the rest of the way. I'm just curious. This is a battle of these quarterbacks who everybody seems to like for the draft next year. Club Nick and Nussmeier. Where are you on these two heading into this season?

[Bruce Feldman]

I like them. I think they're both really smart quarterbacks. They don't have like great size. Nussmeier is more of a gunslinger coaches kid, you know, I think both guys are really good leaders. They see the field really well. The part that we're going, we need to see a big step up from them is especially with, with Garrett Nussmeier is how they play against ranked teams. You look at the numbers, they were not good. Neither guy was really good but Garrett really struggled and now a little like Arch Manning, he's got an entirely rebuilt offensive line. They had four offensive linemen who played in the Senior bowl including, you know, the Patriots top five pick Will Campbell. So now you got a rebuilt offensive line. That place is going to be even more hostile at night than what you're going to have in Columbus. And unlike the Buckeyes, this defensive line Clemson has. Peter woods was one of my, you know, highest guys on my freaks list. I think he'll be a top five pick. He's a 310 pound defensive tackle who runs 4, 8, 5. They have like three other guys on the defense who I think will be top 40 picks next year. And then they have another guy, Sammy Brown who when he's able to come out for the draft I think he's going to be go really high. He's a linebacker, can run, who can run like the wind. Tom Allen's the new defensive coordinator. I think this is a big upgrade from what Clemson had on defense last year. I'm a little nervous about the Clemson pick now because now I see that you're on the bandwagon. Oh God. As soon as you said it. My eyes kind of rolled back.

[Jason McIntyre]

Well, yeah, I'm not gonna lie. Like, I've been down on dabo for dabo for a couple years now since he refused to go to the Portal. And then you came on my podcast. You were like, bro, this defensive line is filthy. I'm worried for Nutsmeyer in the opener. I think he could be under some pressure. So you have Clemson as number one in your college football playoff seating.

[Bruce Feldman]

So I do, you know, a couple of things. As I mentioned Tom Allen, everything I've heard has gotten the defense much more in sync. They were like out of it last year. They had some players, you know, some inexperience in key spots, as I said. Now, Sammy Brown is a, is a second year player. He was a true freshman playing a lot last year in a key role. The other big thing is when Clemson was winning national titles, they had elite receiver play. That's when even right before, when the program started to get closer, when Taj Boyd was putting up big numbers, they had elite receivers. They dropped off. In the last few years, the receiver room is back closer to where it used to be. You know, Bryant West Wesco is a big time guy. They have three guys there who are really big, athletic playmakers. I like how Clubnick has continued to mature. He showed he has some playmaking ability. We saw that at times last year. And again, you know, they did go in the Portal a little bit or they have a good defensive end. They took from Purdue. Feel like everybody got a good player from Purdue and they were awful last year. But still they, you know, I like where Clemson is now. I would caution people on this. Like last year, Clemson got blown out by an SEC team in the opener by Georgia. LSU lost their opener. Brian Kelly's never won an opener since he's been at lsu. Clemson made the playoff even without, you know, like you can stumble out of the gate and still have a really good season. The thing to watch for, for me on the LSU side, I think LSU is really talented. They got a ton of freaky athletes in the receiver room for Nussmeyer. But Brian Kelly's put so much in this game. You know, he's put clums and tiger paws all over the facility just to kind of reinforce how big of a deal this game is. You lose the game, you do worry about, does some of the air come out of the balloon and how do you bounce back from. If they have a, you know, not a big opponent the next week, but a couple of weeks later, they have Florida and Florida Beat them last year.

[Jason McIntyre]

Yeah. Huh. If anybody watching, he has his predictions on the screen for the playoff seven is Iowa State. Now, was that before or after their win over Kansas?

[Bruce Feldman]

That was before.

[Jason McIntyre]

Really?

[Bruce Feldman]

That was before? Yeah. Look, Matt Campbell's a really good coach. When I spoke to him for a while this summer, one of the things that he stressed is, you know, five years or so ago, they had the best season in Iowa State history. They finished number nine. Then the culture of the program kind of got away from them a little bit for a variety of reasons. He was telling me and talking to some of the players inside the program. You know, he's got Rocco Beck, Anthony Beck's son, who is just a gamer. He's a really tough kid. He makes, finds a way to make play plays in the clutch. He's just got like kind of a winner quality to him. And he ended up beating out an elite 11, you know, higher ranked recruit, JJ Cole, who ended up transferring out for the job and hung onto the job. And I think it's a big deal. Like he talked about how much Rocco Beck has, has helped in reestablishing the culture there. You saw it last week when he trusted his guy on fourth and three in a tough spot with a little over two minutes left. He went for it and it paid off. And again, Matt Campbell over the last couple years has been one of the most conservative coaches when it comes to going for it on fourth down. And he was like, scrap that. I trust my guys to come through. They did. I'm not saying they're running the table, but I think they're going to win the Big 12 and I do think there'll be a playoff.

[Jason McIntyre]

I don't, I don't see Texas Tech in there anywhere. Bruce, that's my long shot to make the playoff, but I do see Arizona State. We love that team. Quarterback coach, Texas Tech. Any thoughts? Can they, can they sneak in?

[Bruce Feldman]

I mean, they spent a ton of money in the portal. They got a big budget. They've upgraded on both lines. Now Quinton Joyner, who was at USC last year, really their most talented running back. As we reported, you know, a couple of days ago, he's out for the season with an injury that's going to hurt them because now they have two, two, you know, largely unproven backs who are going to have to shoulder the load. We'll see how this is going to go. I mean, I think they'll be pretty good. I don't know if they. To me, the gap between all these teams in the Big 12 is so close. You know, I just think that there's, there's nobody who has Ohio State, Penn State, you know, lsu, Georgia kind of talent in this. It's not even close. Like, so in here, it's very bunchy. It's like, which quarterback do you trust the most and which, which team can just kind of go on a roll? Last year, Arizona State, I felt like they fed off Cam Scatter Boo's energy and they went from being the team everybody thought was at the bottom to win in the whole. Winning the whole conference and then almost knocking Texas out of the playoff, you know, So I like Kenny Dillingham. I think he's a great fit there. You know, I think there will be the other team in the playoff, but you never know with the Big 12. The teams you think are going to be really good just bottom out. And the teams you don't expect much from, they end up surging.

[Jason McIntyre]

All right, last one real quick. Bryce Underwood is the new quarterback at Michigan. This is the kid who got like a ton of money, right? Wasn't he heavily recruited by some, some donor? He flipped from LSU to Michigan. What's the status on the, on the Wolverines here?

[Bruce Feldman]

Yeah, he's going to be the guy. I mean, he's 6, 6, 4 2, 30, can really run. You know, he was the top ranked high school quarterback in the country last year. He's got, you know, high level playmaking skills. Everybody down there is excited about him, but he's still a true freshman quarterback. The thing that would, that would give me pause about him is he's, he's a true freshman quarterback and there is not a ton of elite talent around him on offense. He does not have anything close to what Penn State has in the running back room. He has nothing close to what Julian Sane at Ohio State has from the receiver room. You know, I. The line is not what it used to be. When J.J. mcCarthy was playing behind it then they had like one of the best lines in the country. I think right now it's pretty good, but I don't know if it's any more than that. Last year it wasn't even that, you know. And by the way, last year they had Khalil Mullings, who they leaned on and really won some games for them. That guy's gone. I think they're more of an 8 and 4 kind of team. I'm fascinated to see how he does. You have a new offensive coordinator. Chip Lindsay comes in. I don't expect them to throw it all over the yard, but they couldn't pass it at all last year. I think they will be able to throw it some because you have a guy who last year they wanted Alex Orgy who was like similar size, really athletic, probably not as instinctive of. Of a runner and struggled as a passer. And they did not have difference makers outside. You know, Colson Leand was a really good tight end, but he got banged up. I. It's hard for me to look at Michigan and say, oh, yeah, they're anywhere near as good as Penn State or Ohio State. I. I don't feel like that right about, right now about them.

[Jason McIntyre]

Yeah. All right. Bruce Feldman, Fox Sports. Great stuff. He's king of college football. Enjoy the opener, Bruce. Everybody will be watching you and following you online. Thanks, buddy.

[Bruce Feldman]

Thanks, Jason.

[Jason McIntyre]

All right, great stuff from Bruce Feldman. Now, folks, I don't want to sound like a five alarm fire, but we have major seismic news. Travis Kelsey and Taylor Swift are engaged.

[Rachel Nichols]

Do you want me to do the alarm?

[Jason McIntyre]

It's happening. So I got two teenage girls at home. Yeah, people are freak. My wife just texted me about it. So Taylor Swift's, I guess, Instagram post. Your English teacher and your gym teacher are getting married with a stick of dynamite. Congrats to the happy couple. Maybe we'll do a little more on this later in the show or the entire final hour. I don't know. We may have to bump a guest to bring on like a wedding plan. I don't know what the game plan is. There is no playbook for this. But maybe we'll get Colin to call in and offer his thoughts on the couple. Remember when people thought this was a hoax? They were like, oh, this is a fake relationship. Remember that nonsense?

[Rachel Nichols]

Yeah, but you know, real Swifties knew the truth.

[Jason McIntyre]

They knew. Yes. By the way, you and your family, did you guys see Taylor Swift out here at Sofi?

[Rachel Nichols]

Of course we did. I got two teenage daughters. Come on. This is like target demo central.

[Jason McIntyre]

I'm not gonna lie. I know our audience is like 90% men, but I'm gonna be real. I went to the concert. It was fire. It was amazing. The best concert I've ever seen.

[Rachel Nichols]

I would say this for all the guys out there listening to this news, this is a reminder to shoot your shot, okay? Because Travis Kelce wanted to meet Taylor Swift. He thought she was pretty obviously one of the smart, most successful women in the world and went to the stadium during her concert to try to meet her. Didn't work out. So instead he went on his own podcast and put out the call and just said into the air, I would like to go out with Taylor Swift. Taylor, please, I want to go out with you. And it worked. It worked. Jason.

[Jason McIntyre]

Yeah.

[Rachel Nichols]

Shoot your shot. It's never too long a shot.

[Jason McIntyre]

So. By the way, Rachel, our staff is now saying that you are wearing Taylor Swift red, which you announced in the first hour.

[Rachel Nichols]

I did.

[Jason McIntyre]

And then they got engaged in the second hour. Are you, do you know something you want to tell us? Anything?

[Rachel Nichols]

Nothing we're gonna talk about on tv.

[Jason McIntyre]

All right, Coming up next, we'll just tear up the rest of the show and just do Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce got engaged. Everybody's excited. Everybody's fired up. And we'll probably talk about Michael Parsons, too, because this is a sports show. That's next.

[Covino and Rich]

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[Jason McIntyre]

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[Jason McIntyre]

Oh, the excitement is just through the roof here at Fox. Everybody's fired up. Taylor Swift, Travis Kelce, engaged. Unbelievable. Oh, that what it's people are saying like this is going to be the next royal wedding here. I mean, whenever they set the date, I got one of our guys here on the stage was like, I know who I'm not drafting in fantasy. Any guy who's ever been part of wedding planning kind of involved and you can only do so much. Yeah, sure, sure. Whatever you want. I do need to ask. So according to the Associated Press, Rachel.

[Rachel Nichols]

Yes.

[Jason McIntyre]

They have been dating for two years.

[Rachel Nichols]

Yes.

[Jason McIntyre]

I don't know how personal you want to get, but before you were married, how long did you date the guy you ended up marrying?

[Rachel Nichols]

I'm a little different. So I dated the guy I ended up marrying when I was a teenager at summer camp.

[Jason McIntyre]

Whoa.

[Rachel Nichols]

And then we didn't see each other for 10 years and then he tracked me down and found me and we dated for less than a year before we got engaged. So it's one of those things where because it worked out, it's incredibly, incredibly romantic. And if it hadn't worked out, the tracking down would have been stalking. Stalking. Well, you know, we'll never know.

[Jason McIntyre]

I was about to say. So is he a official stalker or. No, it was a Facebook.

[Rachel Nichols]

Fantastic. And you know, we've been married for 20 something years.

[Jason McIntyre]

That's. Congratulations. The whole like two years seems like a good. But I don't know if they've lived together. I know that the old school people can be like, nope, can't live together. I highly recommend living together before you get married. I don't know if these two have gets a little. Do you want to share any insight onto that one or.

[Rachel Nichols]

No, I believe that they have lived in each other's homes. Meaning.

[Jason McIntyre]

Listen, a weekend is different than living.

[Rachel Nichols]

No, I don't think it's been a weekend. So they did. Did you, did you listen to the two hour podcast, Jason?

[Jason McIntyre]

No, my, my wife and daughter did. I was just like checking in from that other room watching Hunting Wives on low volume.

[Rachel Nichols]

So, by the way, I can't believe you're looking down your nose at Taylor and Travis because you were watching Hunting. We'll get back to that. No, they were talking all about, like, what they do at home. She's really into baking sourdough at the moment. She has all these nicknames for her sourdoughs that he does this around the house, she does that around the house. And to me, the most revelatory thing she said about the NFL and how much she's changed as a football fan. Because of course, there's been a lot of uproar about how much do they show her on the screen and why is she in my space and all of that stuff. She freely admits she's like, when we started dating, I didn't know what a tight end was. And she made a joke that she thought the quarterbacks actually faced each other on the field, that all the players were out at the same time. Which, I mean, you know, it's kind of good. Was in that Top Gun movie, right?

[Jason McIntyre]

That's how we talk about. You do say quarterbacks battling, right?

[Bruce Feldman]

Yeah.

[Rachel Nichols]

You said Patrick Mahomes versus Josh Allen versus whatever. Anyway. But she has become such a die hard that she said that she and Travis were in different places during the NFL draft a year ago. And she started running through the house screaming, we drafted Xavier Worthy. And her friends who were over at the house were like, did someone body snatch you? I mean, she's clearly into it and they spend a lot of time together.

[Jason McIntyre]

Before we get to her line, I'm sure you guys have seen the memes, but Travis Kelce has changed a lot in the last, like seven years. His look, he was like me. He had the two hoop earrings he would wear, like gold chains. And I saw a meme that I just started dying of laughter was Travis Kelce used to look like a guy who sold vape cartridges behind 7 11. And now he's marrying the most famous person in the world.

[Rachel Nichols]

Right.

[Jason McIntyre]

And it's kind of funny. Anyways. All right, let's go to Rachel with the news.

[Bruce Feldman]

No, no, no.

[Jason McIntyre]

Turn on the news.

[Bruce Feldman]

This is the Herdline news.

[Rachel Nichols]

The only couple, Jason, that could knock Travis Taylor and Travis and Taylor off the news is Micah and Jerry. Right? Micah Parsons, Jerry Jones continue their Texas two step ahead of week one. Both sides still unable to come to terms on a long term agreement just yet. They haven't even been talking. According to reports. Dak Prescott, though, he's dealt with this before, he does not seem concerned about whether Micah will be ready for week one.

[Covino and Rich]

I've got confidence.

[Jason McIntyre]

I've told you that.

[Covino and Rich]

Well, way back when.

[Jason McIntyre]

And I'm just going off of experience, honestly, no different than mine, so I got confidence in that. Just hoping, which I know he is. He's ready to play. There's been a case of something similar to this the last three years, I believe. So if not before, I mean, I guess, right?

[Covino and Rich]

Not necessarily.

[Bruce Feldman]

I think that's.

[Jason McIntyre]

People can take it however they want. I think it's kind of part of the way guys think and see things around here.

[Rachel Nichols]

I mean, according to Micah, he's had a terrible back injury that's kept him out all of preseason. So, you know, he's ready to go. We'll see about that. But did you feel, listening to Dak, that he was saying, oh, we've got experience. This, we're good. We can roll with it, or did you feel that he was listening to Dak? It was, we've got experience. Jerry does this to us every time, right?

[Jason McIntyre]

That. The latter? Yes. I. I totally agree. I will say that that hat that Dak was wearing, did you see it? That looked cool. And I'm one of these weird guys.

[Rachel Nichols]

And not backward.

[Jason McIntyre]

Not backward. Yeah, it looked cool. And Dax sounded supremely confident, like he was not like, oh, man, we're in trouble. This is stinks. We gotta get. It was just like, nothing to see here. That was a vibe I got from that video.

[Rachel Nichols]

Well, he himself, as he mentioned, went through this just last year. Signed on the first day of the season. So much later even than right now. But you have to remember, and when I heard some of that exasperation in his voice, this is what made me think of is this isn't not just good for the Cowboys. Bottom line, it's not good for the team. And that's not a revelation. But if you look back to last year, where Dax signed on the last day this season, CD Lamb signed actually a year to the day ago today. They started the season one and two, and they finished, of course, we know, seven and 10. And I can't say for sure that all of that ends up your quarterback. You didn't know what was going on with your quarterback. That didn't cause an issue. And not knowing what's going on with Micah Parsons, I don't know how that's going to affect them.

[Jason McIntyre]

Not ideal, right?

[Rachel Nichols]

I don't know. They've lost a lot of money doing this, too. So, you know Jerry Jones, he's got plenty.

[Jason McIntyre]

He's a billionaire.

[Rachel Nichols]

Let's talk a little 49ers. Coming off last season's down year, San Francisco hoping to avoid a complete rebel. Instead, they're going through this roster reshuffling. Right? Speaking to Albert Brear, GM John lynch said that they've been taking inspiration from the Rams and Bills who went through similar situations over the past couple seasons, saying, quote, you're buoyed by the fact that we have people that we respect who did it. You're picking them as one of your top four teams to win the Super Bowl. You believe in the reshuffle?

[Jason McIntyre]

Yeah. I like this piece by Breer. I read it and there was a funny Brock Purdy quote where he's like, the Bills have Josh Allen, we have Brock Purdy.

[Rachel Nichols]

Right.

[Jason McIntyre]

John lynch is supremely confident. I'm a Brock Purdy guy. I think I saw him in like, the 90s on that ESPN list, but that's neither here nor there. I do think they're going to be fine. Again, you wouldn't move off those defenders if they were good last year. They were not good last year. I know Hungo was hurt, but, like, when he played, he didn't grade out as, like, having a good season. I think the 49ers are going to be really good this year.

[Rachel Nichols]

I'm worried about the injuries.

[Jason McIntyre]

The injuries, yes.

[Rachel Nichols]

The wide receiver group. I mean, they're one injury away from you and I playing wide receiver, and I'm ready.

[Jason McIntyre]

Running back stay ready.

[Rachel Nichols]

Hasn't been much better. Yeah, there we go. Let's talk about the Lions. We want to take too much out of the preseason, right, Jason? But the Lions did not play well. One in three getting outscored by 46 points. Dan Campbell had been like, everything's fine, everything's fine, everything's fine. Until yesterday, where he admitted wasn't a great look. Take a listen.

[Jason McIntyre]

Practices look really good.

[Bruce Feldman]

I see that.

[Covino and Rich]

But all of a sudden, all four of these games have not been good.

[Jason McIntyre]

That.

[Bruce Feldman]

That's an issue.

[Jason McIntyre]

Like, I. I think that's an issue, right?

[Covino and Rich]

Because all of a sudden the lights are on and we're in real games.

[Jason McIntyre]

And the coach isn't behind you and.

[Covino and Rich]

There'S no scripts and there's.

[Jason McIntyre]

That's a little bit, you know, that.

[Covino and Rich]

That could be a little bit concerning.

[Jason McIntyre]

You think?

[Rachel Nichols]

Look, we knew that there were going to be issues with both coordinators leaving, right? Especially Dan Campbell, who is considered just a mad scientist wizard. But there's also been offensive line interior reshuffling. I Mean, this is definitely a little bit of a danger zone. And a test for Jared Goff, right?

[Jason McIntyre]

100%. Like, what did he think was going to happen when he gets two guys who haven't been coordinators either ever or in like six years? Did he think there was going to be a seamless transition? Like, I don't know, man. Colin is big on Dan Campbell as like a coach. And I'm like, I don't know if he's an X's and O's guys. Like, anybody can walk around when they're stretching and let's go, guys.

[Covino and Rich]

Fire.

[Jason McIntyre]

You know, anybody could do that. We're gonna find out what Dan Campbell's made of this year. Like, we're, I mean, I'm not knocking the guy. I just, I think it's gonna be a real tough one. And the way they lost that Washington, obviously you're a Washington fan. I was at my son's volleyball tournament watching that and just dumbfounded by how dumb Detroit looked.

[Rachel Nichols]

Yeah.

[Jason McIntyre]

And I don't know if Goff was concussed. It was. That was such a beat. They give him 45 points.

[Rachel Nichols]

Well, that's why I said it's gonna be a test for him.

[Jason McIntyre]

Right.

[Rachel Nichols]

Because how much of it the past couple years was him? How much it was the coordinator? How you know, I mean, how much was the line? We're going to find out.

[Jason McIntyre]

Yeah. I'm on the packers, by the way, in week one minus one and a half at home outdoors against Detroit. Rachel with the news.

[Bruce Feldman]

Well, that's the news.

[Jason McIntyre]

And thanks for stopping by the herd lie news. Boy, I do feel bad. Terry McLaurin, a big contract yesterday swept under the rug. You got. What was the. There was another deal. Oh, Trey Hendrickson got a new deal. Boom, all dusted. You know why? Because Travis Kelce and Taylor Swift got engaged. So we'll talk more about that. And also Micah Parsons. You know, it's a sports show. We're going to try to do something. Be sure to catch live editions of the Herd, weekdays at noon Eastern, 9am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, FS1 and the iHeartRadio app this Labor Day.

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[Rachel Nichols]

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[Jason McIntyre]

Can't wait for that one. Obviously, we'll talk about Micah Parsons here in a sec. Just. I'm drilling down on the Taylor Swift Travis Kelce.

[Rachel Nichols]

Oh, boy.

[Jason McIntyre]

I mean, well, I have to ask Rachel, are you getting texts from friends about this? Because people are into this story. Even dudes like, who are like, in my fantasy football league are like, popping off. Yeah, this is a big deal.

[Rachel Nichols]

What rock do you live underneath?

[Jason McIntyre]

This is huge. This is large even for die hard sports fans. They're like, oh, my gosh, Travis Kelsey. Wow, he locked that up. You put a ring on it. As, as Beyonce said. Now I am curious. This, the engagement now means wedding. Next off season, maybe he retires and gets married.

[Rachel Nichols]

I mean, this is sort of the thinking, right? He's 35, is turning 36. She's, I think 35, maybe turning 36.

[Jason McIntyre]

What do you think does this.

[Rachel Nichols]

They both seem to want kids. You know, I'm getting a little personal.

[Jason McIntyre]

Here, but what do you think this does for her? The rumors that she might play at the Super Bowl? 20 whenever.

[Rachel Nichols]

I mean, I, I wouldn't think. I can't imagine that she would play. First of all, most acts don't play at the super bowl until they're more legacy acts.

[Jason McIntyre]

Right.

[Rachel Nichols]

Because they can make a lot more money touring on their own.

[Bruce Feldman]

You're super.

[Jason McIntyre]

Unless you're Kendrick Lamar who wants to cross over.

[Rachel Nichols]

Well, yes, but the super bowl doesn't pay you. You pay for your entire own show. So I don't know if she's doing that. I certainly don't think she's doing that while he's still playing because obviously she wants to watch him play if he's in the game. But yeah, I mean, they're both from, you know, she's from Pennsylvania, he's from Ohio. We know a lot about his family. Right? Mama, Kelsey, Jason, you know, she's from a very tight knit family. She's very close to her parents. They both talked about wanting kids. So doesn't surprise me that as they both enter their late 30s, this is something they're thinking about.

[Jason McIntyre]

No, I'm. Listen, I'm glad you're wearing red and you have some good insight into this.

[Rachel Nichols]

I was ready. Yeah, I'm just gonna say that I was ready.

[Jason McIntyre]

Stay ready. That's what the coach always told me when I was sitting on the bench. Stay ready, J. Mac. All right, let's go to Micah Parsons real quick. So Matt Mosley was on the show Yesterday talking about the Micah Parsons situation. And we saw Trey Hendrickson get a deal. We saw Terry McLaurin get a deal. Now we're just waiting. All right, Micah, can we just, can we get it done now? Maybe Jerry wanted to wait out Kelsey and Swift. You obviously don't want to be toppled by that news because that's going to dominate the news cycle for at least the next 24 hours. And then it's like all wedding planners, location, all this dress, all that. Sorry for saying it's nonsense, but it kind of is goofy to sports fans anyways. Micah Parsons and Jerry, it's kind of ugly. But Matt Mosley says Parsons gonna be on the field for week one.

[Covino and Rich]

Remember who Jerry is and remember how much he loves the pageantry and the circus of all of this.

[Jason McIntyre]

And the last minute, get the deal.

[Covino and Rich]

Signed is kind of a fun thing for him. Dak got one of his deals done the morning of the first game.

[Jason McIntyre]

CD and Zeke's were done four or five days. Every one of these holdouts end in.

[Covino and Rich]

The Cowboys capitulating, right? I mean, name me one that they've won.

[Bruce Feldman]

Like, well, look at the Cowboys.

[Covino and Rich]

They, they, they won this negotiation. Zeke, Zach, I mean, every cd, they all end in the deals getting done.

[Jason McIntyre]

He's spot on there. And it's funny because we've spent much of the last, what, five months talking about the same stuff with Micah Parsons. Is he going to sign? How much is his deal going to be? Oh, he's going to wait for this guy to sign and then sign for a dollar or a million more, whatever it is, and then he's going to get it done and it's going to be week one. He's going to play. He's not going to miss a beat. His back's going to be fine. And then I'm just like, why did we fall for this rope a dope? Is there a way we can build this in so next year when there's a big name who's dragging it out, these deals always get done. Is there a way so we don't have to fall victim to that? And I guess with the Cowboys, as long as Jerry Jones is running the show, this is just how it's going to be. It's going to be a knockdown, drag out battle till the very last minute. Then it's going to get done. Everybody's going to be cheering. It's Kumbaya. There were never any problems. I mean, I don't expect Micah Parsons to show up for week one. Like 10 pounds overweight and not having been working out. Of course, he guys a specimen in the prime of his NFL career. Of course he's working. I mean, I still remember the Darrell Revis holdout with my jets back in the day. So concerned, oh, my gosh. Because he was on such a cheap rookie deal was this 15 years ago. And then he plays week one. I mean, he was great. This is, you know, this is what these guys do. They're professional athletes. They stay ready. And so Dallas, I cannot. I just can't get concerned with this Micah Parsons thing. The only one that could have long term ramifications is what's the trickle down in the locker room and around the league. Hey, man, do you want to deal with that crap in Dallas or do you want to go to XYZ where the owner takes care of you early and quickly? And I know the Jags took heat for the Trevor Lawrence early extension. Oh, what a bad deal. No, no, no, no, no. He signed it super early, below market value. At least what it's going to be when CJ Stroud all everybody else gets paid. It was a smart business decision by the Jaguars. Imagine that world. The Jags are making smart business decisions, and the Cowboys, America's team, is fumbling the bag once again. Like, honestly, if you go, look at that Trevor Lawrence, you're like, wow, I'm smart. Get it done early. No drama. Lawrence can lock in. I mean, that's just. That's the way to go. And Jerry just refuses to do that for the show of it all, for the Netflix show, for the social media reactions so he can put his feet up at his palace that he lives in and turn on a TV and see his face. And the Cowboys, yeah, it's driving up the value of our franchise. Me doing all this, and to me, it's annoying. I don't like it. Is it bad business? I don't know. The guy's a billionaire. Can I bash him? I don't think I can. I mean, he's clearly been successful. So Terry McLaurin gets his deal in Washington. He's going to stick around with Jaden Daniels. Trey Hendrickson gets his deal in Cincinnati. I mean, technically not a deal, but he got a $14 million raise this year, which is going to make him happy. And then we'll just run that back in Cincinnati. They are the king of bad business. And now it's Micah Parsons. We wait for him, and, you know, my guess would be I'll go tomorrow because, you know, once, once college football kicks off this weekend, they the games take priority over this news. I don't know that they're going to wait until next week, but maybe they do Tuesday or Wednesday like in the past. All right, coming up, final hour of the show. I mean, they're talking about tearing it up and just doing Travis Kelsey, Taylor Swift stuff. I don't know. I'll push back, guys, because I know you want actual sports. But final hour coming up next year on the herd.

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