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Greg Cosell
Build, trying to take in the things that I can to improve.
Colin Cowherd
I guess I get a lot of attention when things are going well and when things are not going so well. And so I never run away from holding myself accountable. You know, the criticism, what Derek Gunn had said is, you know, they practice stuff all week and then he kind of does his own thing. And let's bring on Greg Cosell, 46 years, NFL Films, joining us now live. You know, let's just start with this one because it's a story out of Philadelphia that even kind of, kind of does his own thing, which I remember for years and years you telling me, and I wouldn't listen. You're like, you know, Russell Wilson, it's like they're pre produced ad libs. Like he's, I don't know if it's ad lib. Is there a feel that Jalen sometimes isn't running the offense that's designed for him?
Greg Cosell
You know, that's a hard question to answer. Colin. I will say this, though. When you watch their tape, and you know me, I solely go by the tape, I'm not going to get involved in the Derek Gunn story or anything like. But I will say this. When you watch their offense and their pass game in particular, the one thing you definitely see is that it's rather elementary and remedial in their concepts. And that's just what the tape shows. They don't do a lot. You know, we talk about other quarterbacks and other coaches. You watch a Ben Johnson offense, you watch the concepts that they run and other coaches, Sean McVay, Kyle Shanahan, you don't really see that right now in Philadelphia. Now, you know me well enough to know I don't rip coaches. This is not a knock on Jalen hurts. I don't know what goes on in their meetings. I don't know what goes on in their locker room. But I can tell you that the tape shows that their offensive pass concepts are just, they're rather basic and simplistic for the NFL. Yeah.
Colin Cowherd
All right. You mentioned San Francisco. Brock Purdy comes back. He and Kittle have always had a thing where they just when you watch the Niners offense with Mack and then with Brock Purdy, what is. Give me one thing where Brock Purdy is absolutely, inarguably superior to Mac Jones and allows Kyle Shanahan to do that maybe he doesn't do with Mack Jones.
Greg Cosell
I think one thing that always stands out to me with Purdy is that he has a much more aggressive mindset throwing the football. So he'll push the ball down the field. Now, I'm sure some 49ers fans will say, gee, he'll throw some bad picks. And it's not as if he's an interception machine by any stretch, but he is far more aggressive throwing the football. And I think he sees the Game a little more aggressively like that. I think the Kittle touchdown last week, not the one we just saw, but the first one, the 30 yarder is a, is a good example of that. This is it because he checked to that at the line of scrimmage. He changed the formation, he knew what he had and he threw a slot fade. Now I'm not saying Mac Jones is incapable of that, but I just think that Purdy mindset wise is far more aggressive in his mentality of how he sees the game and how the, and the throws that he will make.
Colin Cowherd
I made an argument this week when, when Sam Darnold came out, I said he's a bit of a poor man's Andrew Luck. He's reckless, big, strong, physical. And it's interesting. Andrew, Andrew Luck had 9 games in his career with 3 or more picks. Sam Darnold has 9 games in his career with 3or more picks. The worst game Luck had was a four pick game against Belichick. What was Darnold's worst game? Well, it's Shula of the Rams and a couple Belichick games. So they're similar. I think better, I think Luck's better. But when I watch Sam I'm like, listen, part of what makes Sam interesting is that he really is aggressive and he is not deterred after a pick. He doesn't care. Andrew Luck did not. He. Andrew Luck didn't care. So what did you make of the performance against the Rams? Yeah, your thoughts?
Greg Cosell
Yeah, I mean obviously the four interceptions, so you have to look at each one individually and you have to evaluate that as, as individual plays. And there were two that were really, really bad. I try to. When I watch an interception, particularly one that's bad, Colin, what I try to do is get in the head of the quarterback and try to see, okay, what is he seeing, how is he seeing this? Why did he make that throw? Because when you see it you go, oh my God, how did he throw that ball? But obviously he didn't throw the ball intentionally to hit the defensive back between the numbers. So I try to get into the head of the quarterback based on the route concept, the coverage. And I can understand, I think, why he made some throws. There were, there was one that was really bad where I think it was the last one where he sort of panicked and I think he had a throw that he could have had. It's this one right here that we're looking at now. But the others, I could give you reasons why I think he made the throws. Obviously the result wasn't the same, but you made a great point. And in fact, I said to one of my guys when I was watching this tape, I said, boy, he. When he. After an interception, he's not shy. He just comes back and he's going to throw the football. And I think that's a positive trait in the quarterback.
Colin Cowherd
All right, so Drake may. I think New England thought he was going to be good. I'm not sure if they thought he was going to lead the league in accuracy by the beginning of year two. Does Drake may have a weakness to this point? Anything that a top defensive coach could. Could trick him or sucker him into.
Greg Cosell
Well, that's. You know, I don't want to say he doesn't have a weakness. I'll tell you why. Because, you know he's going to have a bad game. I mean, every quarterback is going to have a bad game or a game that's. That's less than good. And then we're going to say, oh, look what they did to him. So I'm not going to sit here and say, God, this guy's, you know, on his way to the hall of Fame right now. But I think when you watch his tape, you see a very calm, composed, calculated player who knows where to go with the football. He doesn't really make the kinds of throws where you say, God, what's he doing? Why is he making that throw? I think the thing that's really stood out to me has been his ball location, Colin. His ball location has been really, really precise. And I think that that's something that is often overlooked. I mean, if you reduce quarterback play to its simplest terms, it's throwing to the right receiver at the right time with the right kind of throw. That's what quarterback play ultimately is, and he's been doing that at a really high level.
Colin Cowherd
So let's go back to Denver's win over Kansas City, because that was the game of the day.
Greg Cosell
Sure.
Colin Cowherd
Along along with Seattle Ram. So let's start with Bo Nix, who had struggled on opening drives. This one, he moved the ball. So he was. He's been great late. He has struggled early. I felt, watching him, a little less frenetic, I thought. I just felt like he was running the offense a little better. And I. I know it's spags.
Greg Cosell
Yeah.
Colin Cowherd
Chris Jones played well. What did the film say about Bo? His pace, his tempo, his rhythm, his confidence.
Greg Cosell
You know, he may be one of those guys, Colin, that just has uneven plays, where at times you just look at the play and you go, God, he's moving for no reason. He's moving unnecessarily. He does that. He did that in this game. But then he also has really good plays where he looks very calm and very comfortable and sees it clearly. So obviously he's only in his second year. So I'm not going to sit here and paint him with a brush for his whole career and say he's always going to be like that. But he's still working through that to a certain extent. Where there are just plays where it seems as if he almost invents and creates his own pressure for no reason at all. But then he looks very calm and composed and it's just hard to get a read on it. Now obviously, because he looks calm and composed in the fourth quarter. He's getting a reputation as he's a clutch quarterback, but I'm sure Sean Payton would like to see him play that way through four quarters.
Colin Cowherd
Right, let's go to Kansas City. Could I argue one thing? The one thing that Mahomes has never been able to overcome is a really bad tackle, left or right is that's the time he's been blown out in Super Bowls. And that really Kansas City's offensive issues come down to this. Their protection, Tuney, left, elite, interior lineman, right tackle is a massive concern. It's probably what they're drafting with their first pick next year. And it just comes down to this. Mahomes has a very average offensive lineman in that group. They miss Tuney and he doesn't trust the O line. Is it that simple?
Greg Cosell
You know? Nah, I think there's, there's a larger context here to the Chiefs. Let's remember over the last two years, Colin, they've not been a high scoring offense, okay? And I think a lot of people lose sight of that. And this is no knock on Mahomes as a player. We know what he is. We know he's a great player. That's not the point I'm making. But I think one thing that has changed this year, which has impacted Mahomes and it impacts their whole team, is the defense on third down in particular has not been as good. Keep in mind over the last two, three years, their defense has been phenomenal. They have not given up many points. I think they've given up less than 18, 17 points a game over the last two, three years. They were phenomenal on third down this year. It's not been quite the same. And that puts a little more of a burden on your offense. I mean, we're just seeing Mahomes throw an interception here. And again when you get into these plays that are second reaction outside of structure, plays of which Mahomes has been special in his career, Josh Allen has been special in his career. But those are hard plays to always count on every single week. And if your defense is putting you in a position where it seems like you have to make those plays every week, they don't always happen.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah, okay. I actually think people say it's just the Raiders, but Philadelphia and Dallas play and I think Dallas has a puncher's chance. First of all, they're getting excellent receiver play, excellent running back. The old line, the O line is young and in pass protection, it's very uneven. Think they're a little bit better blocking for the run or maybe that's Devonte Williams. But here's the thing. So I said I defended the Micah Parsons trade because it's a good NFL draft. They have two first round picks. It's a good linebacker and edge draft. And I said, they're going to get a cheaper Micah somewhere or something close and they're going to take both. Those picks will probably be defense. So I said, I get it, they're paying cd, they're paying Dak, they're paying a lot of money. But I watched them against the Raiders and they were healthy and Overshone was back. And that second, in that second round pick was healthy. And then Quinn and Williams looked like Robert Sala's Quinn and Williams. And I said, you know what I said now that they're healthy on defense, they're getting pressure on the quarterback. They're, they're getting there. They're athletic looking. So I think, I'm not saying this is a playoff team, but I watched them and I didn't think it was just because it was the Raiders. I look at them and I think, you know what if they nail two first round picks, Caleb Downs, Ohio State, maybe an edge rusher, I don't think they're miles away. What do you make when you watch Dallas? Athletically, draft picks are young players.
Greg Cosell
Well, to me, this game is about their offense versus the Eagles defense because the Eagles defense is really, really good. And they've been phenomenal over the last five games. I mean, they've only allowed, I think, quarterbacks to complete about 55%. But this is a fascinating matchup because you're going to get a receiver in George Pickens who lines up as what we call the boundary X, the single receiver to the short side of the field more than any other receiver in football. And the boundary corner for the Eagles is Quinion Mitchell. That'll be a fascinating matchup. We know that Lamb is phenomenal as sort of a Z, A movement receiver who can line up anywhere. They've got a strong run game. The main thing can they protect Dak Prescott. You're right about the O line. It's a little uneven, but it has some talented players. I'd be very concerned about the Jalen Phillips, Terrence Steele matchup on the right side of their old line because Jalen Phillips, I mean, he ran by Penne Sua last week and. And cause problems. So to me, that side of the ball will dictate the outcome of this game.
Colin Cowherd
Okay, I want to talk Rams. Seattle. I want to talk specifically Rams. So the reason their defense is good, some of it is just they have not missed on a defensive draft pick in two or three years. They got a lot of speed and a lot of power and a lot of good guys, and they've. Emmanuel Forbes coming over is now some length at corner. They got. They have very good personnel. Offensively, what's fascinating is I like their personnel as well, but they do have these stretches and you saw it in the second and third quarter where it just stalls and it. We know McVeigh is gifted. We know. I mean, we know. I mean, Puka Devonte tight end Kyron Williams. Explain why and is it maybe just a lack of Stafford mobility? He's one of the last pocket guys. Why does their offense stall at times?
Greg Cosell
You know, that's a hard question. I mean, this week they played a very good defense. I mean, they've done a lot of things. McVay is very creative. I mean, we know that Higby just went on ir, so we'll see. But they've been playing a ton with three tight ends, 13 personnel, one back and three tight ends. Last month, last four games, well over 40% of their offensive snaps. Now, will that continue without Higby? They still have three other tight ends. We'll find out. And it's funny because in that 13 personnel package, Nuen never plays. It's usually Devonte Adams. Almost always Devonte Adams is the wide receiver. But, you know, offensively, they're. They're very good. You know, it's hard to be great every possession. And they just played a Seattle defense that's really, really good. I think their run game has been a little inconsistent, and that might be one reason. Colin. I think last week they ran the ball pretty well against or Williams had a couple of really good runs against The Seattle defense. But, but last week they played a very good defense. Seattle's got one of the better defenses in the league.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah. Other thing about the Rams is they don't turn it over and they never get penalized. They are the cleanest team in the league for the second year.
Greg Cosell
No.
Colin Cowherd
Okay. Josh Allen plays Houston tonight. No. C.J. stroud. I think Houston defensively is, is active and can in phenomenal. How does Josh Allen, you know, match up with that Texans defense tonight?
Greg Cosell
This is going to be fascinating because Josh Allen is, I mean, he's the most gifted quarterback in the league just in terms of physical traits and I think you'd probably agree with that. And we know what he can do, we know what he can do in terms of these special plays. But they've struggled at times this year, sort of playing within structure, within the pass game. And you know, you wonder, can I get. I'll tell you what, I watched this tape in great detail, obviously, and I didn't think Josh Allen had a great game despite six touchdowns. I thought there were things he missed. Now he does this a lot and then he often makes up for it and compensates and we're going to show that kind of play momentarily and you'll see exactly what I'm talking about. But this is a really hard defense to play against and I don't think you can go into a game and say, well, Josh is going to make four special plays and we're going to win. I think this is the kind of game where you hope he can do that. But there has to be a sense of structure and stability to their offense where they sustain and move the ball. But let me show this play, Colin, because you'll see exactly what I'm talking about. And this is just one of those plays. I mean it's, this is the Josh Allen experience. This is what he does.
Colin Cowherd
Oh yeah, I love this.
Greg Cosell
This was that 43 yard touchdown. Yep. And obviously it's just unbelievable when you see it live. It makes you jump out of your chair. And it was third and three. So Allen is in an empty set here and what you're going to see is he's going to look to the left side of the formation, to Davis and to Shavers. That's where he's looking to make this work. And it's going to be a two man route concept there you're going to see Shavers, he's going to just run a little quick out cut and you're going to see Davis run a curl route. That's what the play is. And by the way, the play works perfectly. So you're going to see as this develops, you're going to see that Davis is going to be wide open and Josh starts to deliver the ball. If you look at Josh, you can see he starts to deliver the ball. It's wide open. This is the play. It's third and three. Let's take the play and let's move the chains. You can see there's no defender who can impact this play. The outside player has gone with Shavers. The. Those two defenders are deep. The inside linebacker, he's nowhere near it. He's looking right at him. You got to make this throw. And I'm always fascinated by how do they deal with this in the meeting. Do they say, hey, Josh, you got to make the throw. What are you doing? And now he runs. So he moves to his right and there's nothing to his right. There's nothing there. So now, Colin, as you know, it becomes the Josh Allen experience that we all love. And Shavers does a great job of adjusting his route. He's just going to now run vertically. And Josh sees him, and he does have great vision on the run, much like Mahomes. And he makes a throw that, you know, I'm not sure a lot of people see this throw and make this throw, but this is Josh Allen. So, you know, I'm always fascinated by these plays, Colin, because what I wonder more than anything when I see plays like this is when they have their meeting on Monday, what do they say to him in the meeting? Do they say, oh, great play, Josh, or do they say, hey, Josh, we had the third down play mapped out perfectly and you got to throw the ball? I mean, I don't really know the answer to that, but he does this a lot. But the thing is, as you well know, you can't count on that to be your offense.
Colin Cowherd
That's right. Greg Cosell on a Thursday, Bills and Texans tonight. Greg is always great stuff.
Greg Cosell
Thanks, Colin. Appreciate it.
Colin Cowherd
You bet. We'll have a weather forecast for about 10 teams coming up before the end of the hour. Also, Phil Sims stops by. Josh Allen's insane. I could just, just, I mean, you can tell when an athlete's great when you. I mean, there's a lot of years that if the Bills were on, they were a corner game, you know, that, that if you put nine, 10, 15 different quarterbacks in the league in a game, Buffalo at Tampa, you know, you wouldn't make it the game of the day. Josh Allen has the ability to get me to a tv. Regardless of who they're playing, I'm just watching to see what he does.
Phil Sims
Remember how I like to talk about when Dan Marino left the Dolphins? They were in the wilderness for decades before they could find a quarterback.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah.
Phil Sims
Remember Jim Kelly with the Buffalo Bills?
Colin Cowherd
Yeah.
Phil Sims
He was amazing. How many super bowls in a.3, four Super Bowls in a row. They were awesome.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah.
Phil Sims
Then nothing until Josh Allen. You know, as a Jets fan, I know this because we're still waiting, Colin. Like it's. It's really tough to find a quarterback in the NFL.
Colin Cowherd
Oh, especially one like Josh. One more herd.
Phil Sims
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Colin Cowherd
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Colin Cowherd
Hey there. I'm Kyle McLaughlin. You might know me as that guy from Twin Peaks, Sex and the City, or just the Internet's dad. I have a new podcast called what Are We Even Doing? Where I embark on a noble quest to understand the brilliant chaos of youth culture. Daddy's looking good. Each week I invite someone fascinating to join me. Actors, musicians, creatives, highly evolved digital life forms. And we talk about what they love. Sometimes I'll driz a little honey in there too if I'm feeling sexy in the morning. What keeps them going?
Sophie Cunningham
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Colin Cowherd
Like when a kid says bruh to me and how they're navigating this high speed roller coaster we call reality in Australia.
Sophie Cunningham
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Hey, he's no Trey McDougal. Chill.
Sophie Cunningham
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Colin Cowherd
Join me and my delightful guests every Thursday. And let's get weird together in a good way. Listen to what are we even doing on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Phil Sims stopping by next hour. J. Mac with the news.
Greg Cosell
No, no, no, turn on the news.
Phil Sims
This is the herd line news. I don't know, Colin, I mentioned the Neurogum yesterday. I feel like you popped some last night because you're on fire today. And I want you to listen to this. Fernando Mendoza, one of the hottest quarterback prospects in the 2026 draft. He was the topic of a podcast earlier this week. Remember Joe Klatt gassed him up on the show. He liked him. Well, take a listen to this and I want you to focus specifically on Urban Meyer as this group talks about Fernando Mendoza. When I cut the ball, I looked.
Colin Cowherd
Over there, I saw his hips turn. His hips and eyes turn. So that point all I knew I needed to just beat that boundary curl defender and beat that boundary safety. And once I saw that safety go over the top, the outside receiver defending the whole shot, I just knew that I needed to put some arc and layer on it over that hook defend after that, that kind of like the hook furl defender in order to make that completion. Because I knew the other guy, the, the joker had his hips to, to the speed.
Greg Cosell
Right.
Colin Cowherd
Now hold on. Look at, look at your face I've ever heard.
Phil Sims
This is what I'm saying, Fernando. Look at his style. This is as intense and happy as.
Greg Cosell
He'S been in years.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah. I was told by an NFL coach of some esteem this week that Mendoza is an easy player to comp because Indiana runs some NFL stuff. And so he's an easy player to look at film and say, okay, he's this, this, this, he can do that, that, that. Because Indiana runs enough Sunday stuff, pro stuff. Signetti. So I, I, I think he is the one quarterback in the draft that is a franchise changer. I think he's really good. I think he's smart, he's big. I mean, just the description there to Urban. I think he's actually right now being the idea that people think that Ty Simpson and him are in the same class. No, they're not. This kid was great at Cal with Cal players. He's great at Indiana with Indiana players. A lot different having Calen DeBoer and Bama talent. I think he's separated. Dante Moore, I think is gifted, but he's 20 and needs another year in college. To my take, I think he's separated from everybody I've seen in college football.
Phil Sims
So about six weeks ago, I mentioned this. The Wall Street Journal did an article on Fernando Mendoza. Just think about that. The Wall Street Journal, okay? This isn't some sports publication. This guy is at his second getting his second graduate school degree right now. He's a genius. Legitimately. His off season isn't, you know, throwing to wide receivers in Miami. Okay. He's doing business school in the off season and he's got internships. This is a literal genius, Colin. And I'm telling you, he would be so good with my New York Jets Bring some stability and calm. Now obviously there's going to be questions. Does a nerd like this fit into an NFL locker room which is, you know, tough guys. I would hope so.
Colin Cowherd
You know what?
Phil Sims
He's a smart kid and I like smart. I want him on my team.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah. I will tell you this. Brady used to, you know, before Brady won Super Bowls and was cool. Brady could be a little nerdy. Peyton Manning was never cool. Andrew Luck was not cool at all. I worry when a quarterback wants to be cool. You know, like that Johnny Manziel. Being cool mattered a lot. Yeah, I mean I, Kirk Cousins won a lot of games being socially nerdy. I'm sorry, I'm okay with it. This kid and I, and I'm serious on this. You know what? I feel like I get Andrew Luck without the reckless. That's what I feel like. I'm watching. I think he's this good. I think he is Andrew Luck. And again, Andrew Luck had Stanford teammates. A lot of three star guys at Stanford. It's not like Indiana's five star guys. I, I feel like I'm getting some Andrew Luck qualities. Big, smart, tough, can move well enough but a true pocket guy. But I don't get the mistakes.
Phil Sims
Well, the real test will be if he could go to a rotten franchise like the jets or the Browns or the Saints and elevate them. That's the true test of greatness.
Colin Cowherd
Go watch him against Ohio State because that is three top 12 defensive players. Matt Patricia. I don't think he's going to win but when he went to Oregon against Dan Lanning's defense and he tore it up in Austin, really impressive.
Phil Sims
Yeah, I'm a fan. Jets just need to lose a few more games to secure Mr. Mendoza. All right, let's move on to. Oh yeah, we never talk about this guy Aaron Rodgers. Reports are now Colin that he may try to play. Yes, try to play this weekend against the Bears with the broken bone in his wrist. Now we know Rodgers spending many years with the packers hates the Bears. He would do the celebration, would joke about owning them. Listen, here he is talking to reporters about the Bears.
Greg Cosell
It's a great rivalry. I mean in the history of all.
Colin Cowherd
Sports you talk about the Lakers and the Celtics and the Red Sox and the Yankees. You got to talk about the packers.
Greg Cosell
And the Bears and there's been some great memories there. When I first got to Green Bay.
Colin Cowherd
The Bears had the all time series lead.
Greg Cosell
When I left, the packers did. Since J.
Colin Cowherd
Love has taken over, it's even gotten better. But I hope. I hope those fans can put that, put that behind them.
Greg Cosell
I'm sure they can't.
Colin Cowherd
I think this is fascinating because I think I want to see Aaron play because I think he gives them the best chance to win. And I want a good game. You know, it's. It's just. How interesting are the Bears games? It's amazing. You get an offensive coach, you get a young quarterback with all sorts of horsepower. Bear games to me are must watch. I think it's a real. Because I will say this, I kind of know what I get every week from Chicago. They're going to run the ball a lot and they're going to run it pretty well and they're going to be very good late and the game will be close. I kind of feel Pittsburgh, week to week, blown out by Seattle and then can come the next week. I mean, they can play the jets and struggle. They could get blown out at home, win on the road. I never know what I'm getting from Pittsburgh. They are a chameleon to the environment. So I think it's a fascinating game.
Phil Sims
Yeah, I don't know. The line is saying that Rogers is going to play. Remember, it was stuck on three most of the week with Mason Rudolph. Now we're seeing two and a half. I mean, listen, this isn't difficult for your Bears, right? Hey, I just looked at the weather report. It's going to be like 50, 40s or 50s Sunday. No, no rain or anything. So you got to blitz Rogers. Just you got to get after him and say, hey, we're not going to let you chuck it up to DK Metcalf and hope that he fumbles the ball in the pocket because he's got to be wearing something on his hand with the broken wrist. So I bet the Bears earlier this week, not feeling great about it, but go Chicago. Final story. Colin. Lamar Jackson bad news yesterday. Okay, this is yesterday. He missed practice with an ankle injury. Not great. I just checked as we went live here a few moments ago, Lamar Jackson jogged out of the, you know, the stadium. He is at practice today. So he missed yesterday. We don't know if he's throwing today. We're just making an appearance. But this is a little troubling facing my jets, huge two touchdown favorites down to 13 and a half. Tyrod Taylor starting for the Jets. The Ravens have no room for Error Collins. They must have Lamar because you saw them without him earlier this year. Not good.
Colin Cowherd
They're fine. They're gonna win conventionally. All right, J. Mac with the news.
Phil Sims
Well, that's the news and thanks for stopping by.
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The Herd LIE News. Yeah, the Phil Sims is going to be joining us last hour. Speaking of weather, we got about 10 teams here and there are so many things that now matter. You know, for years and years we always said this about Belichick and Brady and their dynasty. They were a different football team around Thanksgiving on they they were very beatable. September, early October. Then things changed. Running games matter more. Your schedule matters more if you're a warm weather dome team and you have to go two or three weeks in a row to cold weather. So there's a lot of things to consider. Are you a good home team like Buffalo? How many home games do you have left? Are you healthy? We'll have our weather forecast for top 10 top teams in this league next. In Chicago, it's the Herd. Be sure to catch live editions of the Herd, weekdays at noon Eastern, 9am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, FS1 and the iHeartRadio app.
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Colin Cowherd
Well, it's entering week 12. Gets windy, gets cold. The weather does play a factor this point forward, so it is time for me to pivot to my alter ego, Sky Banister. Handsome weatherman, hair made of wood. Here we go, J. Mac, give me the game. I'll give you the weather forecast for that team.
Phil Sims
Okay, Sky Banister, what's the forecast for the Buffalo Bills this season?
Colin Cowherd
Looks like unseasonably warm weather ahead for the Bills. No Buffalo temperatures. Why? They only play one opponent that ranks top half of the league in rushing. That is their Achilles heel. I don't see any Buffalo temperatures. They're heating up down the stretch. Buffalo getting hot.
Phil Sims
What's the forecast like for the Steelers this season?
Colin Cowherd
Stormy flash floods. Are they a flash in the pan? Why Aaron Rodgers is banged up and the next three games are at the Bears, Bills and Ravens. It is a really bad time for Aaron Rodgers to not be at 100%.
Phil Sims
All right, Storm, what's the forecast like for the Ravens this season?
Colin Cowherd
Clear skies, mild weather ahead in Maryland. Why? Birds are flying north to their playoff paradise. Three of their remaining games, Bengals twice in the jets next three games are all at home. I see Clear sailing. I see winning streaks despite Lamar missing practice yesterday.
Phil Sims
What's the forecast like for the struggling Kansas City Chiefs this season?
Colin Cowherd
Not stormy or clear. It's partly cloudy so they are playing some home games coming up. They've been good there, but the season really comes down to this week on the road against the Colts off a bye. So it could be really. Those clouds could move out of the way if they beat Indy. But I think their season comes down to Sunday on the road or I think they're at home. Excuse me. They're at home. Daniel Jones off a buy with Shane Steichen, a healthy Colts roster.
Phil Sims
All right, what's the forecast like for the Denver Broncos this season?
Colin Cowherd
Clear skies, baby. They got their playoff picnic basket already made and set up. Listen, week 17 Chiefs is the tough one. They won the last two against Kansas City. 12 and 2 the last couple of years at home. This is a team that's got a lot of home games coming up. Bo Nix I, I thought was less frenetic against Kansas City than he was in previous weeks. I like what I see going forward. They'll retain that number one seed.
Phil Sims
All right, what's the forecast like for the L A Chargers this season?
Colin Cowherd
Stormy. Where there's lightning, there's always thunder. They have backups everywhere in the O line and they're going to face some of the best pass rushing teams over the next seven games. Chiefs, Texans, Eagles, Broncos. What they struggle with is what they are facing over the next seven games.
Phil Sims
What's the forecast like for the Philadelphia Eagles this season?
Colin Cowherd
Well, as the show says, it's always sunny in Philadelphia. Here's the advantage. Week 13 they face the Bears, but under Sirianni, they're 110 against the NFC North. Their toughest game is Week 17 at the Bills. By that time, Lane Johnson could be healthy, should be healthy. So it kind of works in their favor. A couple of tough games, but they match up well.
Phil Sims
What's the forecast like for the Detroit Lions this season?
Colin Cowherd
Well, Detroit season isn't black and white. It's a lot of gray. It's partly cloudy. Here's what I worry about with the Detroit Lions going forward at the Rams, at the Bears. But six of their seven remaining games are indoors. You know who loves indoor football? One, Jared Golf. So it is. There's some clouds there at la, at Chicago, Green Bay. Lot of indoor games benefits this quarterback.
Phil Sims
What's the forecast like for Micah and the packers this season?
Colin Cowherd
All right, not to sound cheesy, but it doesn't look gouda. I Don't know. I don't know. Green Bay, three of the last four games are on the road. Four of their last five games are in cold weather environments and they can't run the football. I don't mind if you're playing in cold. Chicago, you gotta be able. Philadelphia, you gotta be able to run the ball efficiently. When you're playing in cold weather. Green Bay can't. That means relying on down the field throws. It does not look Gouda.
Phil Sims
All right, we saved the worst for last. What's the forecast like for the Chicago Bears this season?
Colin Cowherd
I will acknowledge a little stormy. Chicago faces hazardous winds ahead that could blow their playoff chances away. They got three tough roadies at Philly, at Green Bay, at Niners. No easy games. Even the should win games like Pittsburgh are tough. They gotta pay. Play the packers twice, Eagles, Niners, Lions. So never forget, always keep it here for all your weather updates with long term award winning meteorologist Sky Bannister. I like that Gouda line.
Phil Sims
Gouda line's really strong. Sky banister, huh?
Colin Cowherd
Yeah. I mean, listen, I think the Steelers, the Chargers and the Bears got stormy weather ahead. The one thing I will say, the Steelers and the Chargers are not running the football well. The Bears are. That is a huge advantage in lousy wet. That's what worries me a little bit about Green Bay is that, you know, weather goes sideways, you go, look, Baltimore, bad weather territory. Another problem with Kansas City. If they don't beat Indianapolis, they're not running the football. So, I mean, Xavier Worthy is going to become much less profound in December and January.
Phil Sims
He's already catching like three passes a game tops.
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Phil Sims
Can I ask you about the Chiefs real quick? Colin? So interesting you have partly cloudy. I just want to frame this. So the Texans play tonight. The Chiefs are battling them for a playoff spot.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah.
Phil Sims
Like legitimately. They're scoreboard watching. They're not used to that. And then the Jags play Arizona like they got. The Chiefs have to monitor that. And I can't get over the fact that off a bye week they laid an egg largely against the Broncos.
Colin Cowherd
That is the.
Phil Sims
Do you think they were game planning at all at the same time for the Colts or was it like, hey, we got to beat the Broncos?
Colin Cowherd
No, no, no. I think there's a couple of things that are very true. Chris Jones is not the player he was a year and a half ago. He is not. And when he's not, you know, Aaron Donald was getting double and triple team to the very last game as a Ram. Chris Jones is not as dominant. Well, when you take out, like when you take out, you know, Bosa gets hurt. For the Niners, you know they wouldn't have a pass rush. Right. Like if Khalil Mack tomorrow got hurt. For the Chargers, there goes a big chunk of their pass rush. There's a reason these guys on the outside, the Miles Garrett's, the Max Crosby's, the Trey Hendrickson, there were so much, you can't duplicate them. It's much easier in the draft to find a running back or a wide receiver or an interior lineman. Quarterbacks, left tackles and edge rushers or interior defensive linemen. I mean, Jalen Carter had a lot of baggage. And Phillies, like, no problem. Why? Just the body composition. There's just not many guys that are 340 with good feet. So Chris Jones for about a five year period was unblockable. And they could move him all over. They could put him on the edge, they could put him inside. You couldn't block him. You had to double him. He's not the same player. Yeah, and now he'll have bursts. Same with Travis Kelce. Travis Kelce has games, but it does feel like he plays well when he has to. He's not consistent. So I think part of this for Kansas City is they don't run the ball well and they don't intimidate you and alter your game plan up front. And it's, it's the reality of Chris Jones. Great player, very good player last year. Next year is the last year with guaranteed money. You probably got to rip the band aid off.
Phil Sims
But remember Lou Amaruno, the defensive coordinator for the Colts, was with the Bengals for many years. He's the one who schemed up that defense at Arrowhead to beat Mahomes in the playoffs.
Colin Cowherd
Remember the game?
Phil Sims
I think it went overtime. The Mahomes threw the interception and the Bengals were right there with him in another playoff game. So there's a world where he plays a lot of zone, mixes up the blitzes. And Mahomes has not been good under pressure, Colin, at all this season, especially the high leverage games. And then you factor in the Chiefs inability to stop the run. You know, the bills had a 100 yard rusher against him. Cook went nuts. If they can't stop the run, Jonathan Taylor in that offensive line, I think Kansas City's in trouble here. I'm not going all in. I don't, I don't know if it's in headlines yet, but this is like a. One of the bigger games of the season.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah, there's a you know, the NFL has the ability to create great games out of games that don't appear to be interesting matchups. Steelers, Bears could be very interesting. New England at Cincinnati, Joe Burrow was at practice today. That could get very interesting. Jacksonville, which nobody trusts on the road, goes to Arizona. You know, if, if Denver, if Kansas City can beat the Colts and Jacksonville win, it's a big and you know Houston's going to lose tonight and the Colts are underdogs to Kansas City. That is a huge game in the history of the Jaguars franchise to go to Arizona and win. But they're a dysfunctional, weird franchise that you don't trust in big spots. I also, you know, they're keep your eye on Dallas hosting Philadelphia.
Phil Sims
Yeah, that's obvious.
Colin Cowherd
That is a really interesting game for me.
Greg Cosell
Yeah.
Phil Sims
Colin so the 4pm slate on paper doesn't look good. Jacksonville, Arizona. But then you've got Shador starting for the Browns, which is fascinating. And I'm going to I'm going to be honest. I got some friends in Atlanta and they're worried about the Saints Falcons game. I know nobody cares, but it's not just the game. Raheem Morris could be in some trouble if this season totally flops. Remember, they didn't want to trade Kirk Cousins. They could have tried to ship him to somebody. Kyle it's not looking good for the Falcons at all in that coaching staff.
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Date: November 20, 2025
Podcast: The Herd with Colin Cowherd (iHeartPodcasts / The Volume)
In this episode, Colin Cowherd breaks down the latest NFL storylines with a particular focus on the Kansas City Chiefs' struggling offense, Jalen Hurts' locker room reputation, and quarterback performance across the league. NFL Films’ veteran Greg Cosell joins for an in-depth film analysis on key QBs and teams. The hour closes with Colin and Phil Sims previewing top games, discussing weather impacts on playoff races, and evaluating breakout quarterback prospects.
Timestamps: 01:13–06:30
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Dallas:
Rams:
Timestamps: 19:02–22:46
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Colin (as “Sky Banister”):
Timestamps: 51:01–53:05
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This episode is a must-listen for anyone following the evolving NFL playoff picture, QB development, or the weekly chess match across the league. Colin, Greg, and Phil bring sharp film study, historical context, and signature banter—making it both informative and entertaining for fans who want to go beyond the box score.