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You're listening to Fox Sports Radio one hour from now. Tom Brady, Greg Cosell in a couple of minutes live on a Thursday, it is the Herd. I just saw this story. I'm glad my staff alerts me to the very biggest of stories. No, not Michigan football. The Eagles positivity rabbit has been yanked from the Eagles locker room. So Nick Sirianni, Mr. He totally gets the vibe of the locker room with a big swing and a miss on the old positivity rabbit. They didn't even get the holiday right. Christmas is in two weeks and they got an Easter rabbit in there. Come on. So, yeah, yeah, this, this whole thing feels cringy and a reach. I can't unsee Saquon Barkley's reaction when that goofy thing was inserted into the locker room a week ago. Just watch his body language in his eyes.
Greg Cosell
I have no idea.
Colin Cowherd
I don't.
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I'm not into like, holidays and like bunnies and Christmas.
Colin Cowherd
I do the Christmas stuff. I got kids. But like, I'm not really big, like joyful holiday person.
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Colin Cowherd
I don't know why. I think that's really the only spot we can pit a big bunny.
Greg Cosell
But I was told it's vibe bunny and the vibes are high. So there we go.
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Greg Cosell
Sign off on the inside from my locker. Not at all.
Colin Cowherd
Feels like a Howie Roseman plant to get him whacked eventually. That thing was cringy. Well, whatever. Here's what's not. Greg Cosell, 46 years NFL Films is joining us. It's a really interesting weekend. We kind of know what everybody is by this time of the season, right? Some young players may be getting better. I do think Bo Nix has played a little better. When I look at the Bills and the Patriots, New England I still feel needs another draft. Although they've been great, they've played an easier schedule. What would worry me is if I was a Buffalo fan. Burrows probably not going to make the playoffs, right? Mahomes won't make it. Lamar Jackson may not make it. I mean, Herbert's got the worst offensive line, if not afc, in all of football. And yet Buffalo feels like that defense is not good enough. They don't have a downfield consistent receiver. Is it time for a reality check? What does the film say on Buffalo in terms of overall? Like, I watch the Seahawks, I just see talent. I watch the Rams, I see speed, talent, dexterity. What's the film say on Buffalo's overall talent? If you take out Josh Allen, I.
Greg Cosell
Think you've nailed it and I think it's been that way for a few years. They are not one of the more talented teams in the league. You'd be hard pressed to name an impact player that they have on the defensive side of the ball. They certainly don't have a receiving core. If we look at Shakir and say he's their best receiver, he's clearly a number three type. He's very good at that. But he's a number three type. So they're really not that good a football team. And I know that there's been a lot of talk about, well, this is Josh Alingier and if he doesn't make it, you know, that is so silly. They're just not that good overall from a talent perspective. I mean, look what happened last week. They had the two interceptions, which were both kind of fluky. I mean, good plays, but fluky. And they couldn't stop the Bengals at all on third down. And I know Bosa didn't play and he does give you some pass rush, but they don't really have an impact player on that side of the ball and they've got no receiving core. So it's. They're a hard team. They have to scheme up everything on offense and then hope that Josh Allen in a given game makes Josh Allen plays. And it's very Hard to live in that world every single week, Colin. And you know that we, we've talked about this before. Yeah.
Colin Cowherd
So Ravens have a different issue. I think their roster is good. I like their coach. Lamar doesn't feel 100% J. Mac and I have gone back and forth on this.
Greg Cosell
Right.
Colin Cowherd
The Zay Flowers relationship is good. So Lamar, I think last week Zay had eight or nine catches. When you look at Baltimore's offense, Lamar doesn't feel like he's got quite the juice. Or is it a scheme thing?
Greg Cosell
You know, it's funny, I felt over the last couple years with Monk and that the schemes were very good and I thought that that really helped Lamar be a really consistent pocket quarterback. He throws the ball very, very well from the pocket. He's normally a very precise ball location thrower. This year since he' back and again, I can't speak to what he feels, but I can only tell you that on the tape he's missing throws that he normally makes. All right, So I don't know if that's, if there's a physical reason for that. I don't know if there's a mental reason for that, but he's just missing throws he normally makes. And I think my sense just watching his body language as I go back and forth with the clicker, watching the tape, is I don't think he's comfortable with what he's seeing. And that may be a confidence thing. Now you're getting into a guy's head, which, you know, I can't do. But, you know, he just, to me, his, his movement now, to me, which I have always found to be pretty calculated and controlled, I always got this sense when he moved, you probably did as well, that positive things were going to happen. Now when you see him move, I don't get that same feeling.
Colin Cowherd
You know, I said it this week with Jordan Love. If you just look at traits, size, arm movement, you know, he's a very, very good player. You know, he's young, uneven. There have been times I've bailed, times I love him. But I do feel this offense now is clicking. Some of it is health. They lost Kraft to tight end for the year. But what does the film say about Green Bay? It feels sometimes they can be a little streaky, but it does feel like an elite offense to me.
Greg Cosell
Well, I think they're a little old school in the sense that they clearly want to run the football as a foundation. And because Jacobs is not an explosive back, you don't get 30, 40 yard runs. So the run game is sustaining more than explosive, and it'll be interesting to see how they continue to work Luke Musgrave into their offense. Because when I watched the tape last week, there were a couple of plays where I called in my guys and said, wow, this guy can run. And so I'm curious to see how that gets worked in. But as far as the pass game, they do try to take shots down the field, working off the run game. I think that one of the things that stands out with love and why he's playing, I think, pretty well right now and not turning the ball over is he's more willing to be controlled in the throws that he makes. You know, in the past, you nailed it. He was. There was a reckless nature to him at times, and every once in a while that might show up. But I think if he doesn't see it down the field, he's much more calculated in dumping the ball down, taking a check down, throwing the ball short, allowing the offense to work. So we'll see how this season plays out. He's a good player. The defense is good. They're a solid football team.
Colin Cowherd
I want to talk some Bears who lost close to Green Bay at Lambeau. They faced the Browns this week. They're a home favorite. How, how concerned are you with Caleb Williams accuracy or lack thereof?
Greg Cosell
It's a concern he misses too many, to use a Kurt Warner term, layups. And I think those are throws you have to make it. It's hard to understand. I, to me, I don't know a rational reason for it because he'll make unbelievable throw and he's obviously got a ridiculous arm. The ball comes out beautifully and he'll make ridiculously good throws and then just miss with really scattershot throws. You know, throws you gotta make. So I don't know the reason for that, but, you know, he's certainly a very gifted thrower and he can throw really well on the run, but he's going to have to become more consistent with throws that are there. You know, we all see the highlights. We all see the special throws. He's capable of that. To me, the number one thing in his improvement and development this year, Colin, is the fact that he's not getting sacked very much. And believe me, teams have done studies over the years that indicate more often than not that quarterbacks that get sacked a lot in college get sacked a lot in the NFL, and that's not been the case for him this year after leading the NFL in sacks last year. So I think that improvement is Big because sacks just take you out of drives.
Colin Cowherd
Yep. All right, let's do our weekly Shador update. I think I said this. Dylan Gabriel got the start initially by Cleveland because he had so many college starts. He was just more ready initially to play. But Shador's talents better. That's what I see when I watch him. What do you see?
Greg Cosell
I thought he played very well this week. And you know me well enough to know I don't make these bold pronouncements about what he's going to do this week or what his future is. I mean, obviously with the way he played last week and you're seeing a terrific throw, by the way, that was one of the better throws of the week. He played very, very well. But you know this. You started to see, well, they found their franchise quarterback. Let's, let's let him play more reps. Let's see him play against, you know, good teams. But there's no question what the film showed last week. He was poised, he was calm. He made really good throws. I think he had a sense of where to go with the football. He played very good football last week. And I thought some of the things that stood out the week before he, he overcame last week. He didn't miss throws that were there. He didn't not turn it loose when there were clean looks. I thought last week he played very well. There's no other way around it. That's what the tape tells you.
Colin Cowherd
So the Rams have been on a season long heater and what's scary is they're healthy. Puka Devonte, the tight ends, Kyron Will, Blake Corum now is getting looks. We know McVay, we know their schemes are going to be good, but it just feels like they just get these wonderful chunk plays whenever they need them. Are they the combo of talent scheme? Do you lean? Maybe they've just drafted well, we know they have on defense. What does the film say about what the Rams present? Drive to drive.
Greg Cosell
Well, offensively, they made a major change starting week seven, which you don't normally see that kind of dramatic change. In the middle of his season, they started playing with three tight ends as a true foundation of their offense. So basically since week seven, they played probably about 40% of their snaps with three tight ends and prior to that they had played no snaps with three tight ends. So McVay obviously saw something in his team and something in the way he wanted to go about building offense and he made a change. Like I said, you don't see that kind of dramatic change. And let me tell you something, Colin, on first down, out of three tight ends, they have been just unbelievably good. Not just in the run game where you might expect because they've got big bodies on the field, but in the pass game as well. And Pukinakua, until last week was not the single wide receiver when they played three tight ends. And last week he played in the 13 personnel package for the first time and he was a factor catching the ball. Had a 32 yard reception out of three tight ends. So I'm sorry. Fascinated. When I watch McVay, I think Mike McDaniel is like that in many ways with the development in his run game. You know, those kinds of coaches, I think just have such a great feel for how to build offense.
Colin Cowherd
Chargers, Chiefs, meet Kansas City's over a field goal favorite. You know, I said this, everybody keeps telling me, well, they're just a little retool, not a rebuild. They average the last couple of years. A touchdown less than Mahomes is early years. And I've said this. If I say name their 10 best players today, not on legacy, their 10 best players, and then I ask you to name the Seahawks, Rams, packers, lions, Eagles, best 10 best players. I think it, I don't think it's just a, hey, we got Mahomes. We're fine. Last couple years they averaged 22 points a game. That's with Andy Reid. That's with Mahomes.
Greg Cosell
Yes.
Colin Cowherd
I don't think I, I think they're better than Buffalo, but I don't think, I think they need more of a rebuild than people think. What's the film say?
Greg Cosell
Yeah, and it's funny you mentioned that about the offense because look, we know what Mahomes is, but one of the things, you know, and again, I'm just watching the tape and one of the things that I've really noticed and Mahomes is a player that is so special making outside of structure plays. He just has that spatial awareness, that incredible vision on the move. And there's no question, for the most part he's played well this season. It's not as if he's played bad football, but the more I watch him every single week, Colin, at times I feel as if their whole offense has become Mahomes, making outside of structure plays. They don't really have a consistent run game. I know a few weeks ago they ran 90 plays and Hunt had 30 carries. But for the most part, they don't really have a consistently viable run game. And, and they don't really seem to have a true pocket pass game that you can count on every week because most of the really good plays we see every week are Mahomes being. Mahomes being special. And the thing that really stands out to me it's now been more than a year and a half is Xavier Worthy, who they drafted, ran the 421 at the combine. There's no vertical element with Xavier Worthy in their offense and that's very surprising to me because that's kind of. I would assume why they drafted him.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah, I always thought he was a gadget guy. I never thought he. I, you know, I think he. I don't know.
Greg Cosell
Well, they, they obviously thought more. They drafted him in the first round.
Colin Cowherd
That's right. So I said this week I wouldn't be shocked if the Houston Texans made the AFC championship if homes and burrows not there. The whole league is offense, right. All the rules help offense. When I watch the Texans, I don't know what d' Amico Ryan is doing. People are distressed every snap. You can't get first downs. Some of its personnel, you could turn the sound down. They and the Seahawks. I can watch speed. I can. What?
Greg Cosell
Yes.
Colin Cowherd
Are they clever with schemes as well as just talent?
Greg Cosell
Yes. And I think one of the things that d' Amico Ryans is really good at is selective pressure. He's not a high percentage blitzer but each game depending on the opponent, you know, there are games where on second down he'll blitz but you think well that's not a down. You normally blitz but he'll do that in a given game. But he's so good with his selective use of pressure even though he's not one of those guys that just dials it up on a consistent basis. But they are really, really good at all three levels. And I would say the area of their defense that's not talked about enough because we focus so much on Hunter and Will Anderson, deservedly so are their interior D linemen. Their interior D linemen are very, very good and they pose problems. It's very hard to double team guys when you play the Texans and often they'll line up in five man fronts and that leads to what we call 50 protection, meaning the O line blocks one on one against the D lineman or a linebacker who's ever the fifth guy on the ball. And it's very, very difficult. They create these one on ones and on the back end. I think I may have said this a week ago, but I think Kalen Bullock this year has been the best post Safety in the NFL.
Colin Cowherd
Wow. Okay. Colts, Seahawks, Philip Rivers. Going to get some snaps here. That worries me. Yes, there is. I know they're reckless and I know they're young, but I watch that defense, I watch that offense. I mean, Sam Darnold, you know, I've always loved him. Give me the elements why that offense is so explosive.
Greg Cosell
Well, what they've done as the season has progressed as Clint Kubiak's offense, the way he wants to run offense, has taken hold and Darnold's become more comfortable in it is they are very good with under center play action because they don't run the ball great on a weekly basis, but they are very good with under center play action. Darnold, as you know, pushes the ball down the field. We'll get to that in a moment. But I think you have to say something about their defense. And you started with their defense. They are among the league's best in terms of a trend that has now taken over the league in many ways. And that's playing with what we call big nickel, three safeties as almost their foundation defense. And Nick Imanwari, the rookie from South Carolina who basically is over 6, 3, 2, 20, I think at the combine he ran a 4, 3, 8. He has become a dominant player as a rookie with his alignment, versatility, with his multidimensional traits. And they've got a really good D line. This is a really, really good defense. But offensively, getting back to that and we'll get to the play here momentarily, we can actually show it now because this play is very reflective of what they are as an offense and what they've evolved into as Kubiak has developed with Darnold over the course of his season. And you're going to see play action here and then you're going to see the ball being thrown at the intermediate level. This is what they do. They're starting to do it more and more and they're really good at it and we can walk through it because it's really good. So you're going to see Darnold under center and that's critical. The under center element, they're in 12 personnel with two tight ends on the field and then they're going to motion the tight end, Bonner across the formation and they're doing this for protection purposes. That's why they're going to do it. And as I said, they're using play action now as a major part of what they do. And under center play action, it's far more effective than shotgun Play action in its impact on the defense. And then you're going to have the two receivers. It's only going to be a two man route concept which you don't see very often. It's a deep sail and a crosser. So now what you get is you get the play action which impacts the defense. And with the tight end motion across, you get seven man protection. So Darnold can feel very comfortable turning his back to the defense. And now let's just revisit the routes because you're going to see the sail, the deep sail and the cross by Smith and Jigba. And how the Falcons chose to play this was they matched up man to man on the outside with the deep safety. That's how they chose to play this. Now Smith and Jigba is the one who runs the crosser here. And you're going to see as we stop it one more time, we're going to see that he's going to be open on the crosser, running away from the corner. And Darnold sees it. It's a clean throw. It's a big play. They get a lot of big plays in their pass game. This is a 30 yard play. So this is the kind of thing they're getting better and better at. And because their defense is so good, Darnold doesn't have to throw 40 times every game. Colin, as you know, I mean, there have been games he's thrown 20, 21 times because their defense is so good, but they are capable of pushing the ball down the field. And this offense, they definitely want to run the ball better. And we'll see if that becomes a factor in giving games as they play more important games. But this is a fun offense to watch because they push it down the field.
Colin Cowherd
Good stuff. Greg Cosell is always 46 years NFL Films. Thanks, Greg.
Greg Cosell
Thanks, Colin. Appreciate it.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah. Also a story coming up later on Joe Burrow, which is, it's pretty remarkable the place he's at mentally right now. I'm telling you, he and Carson Palmer got tired of Cincinnati. It's coming. Whoa, whoa, whoa.
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How are you dropping that? And just go in a commercial break. He's tired of Cincinnati.
Colin Cowherd
Whoo.
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Greg Cosell
You know, if I want to, if I want to keep doing this, I have to have fun doing it. You know, I've been through a lot and if it's not fun, then what am I doing it for? I'm not sure there was a singular moment or time. It's just a reflection. Reflection on a lot of things that I've done and been through in my career. I think I've been through more than most and, and certainly not easy on the brain or the body. So just trying to have fun doing it again.
Colin Cowherd
Interesting. Joe Burrow is not unhappy because the Bengals linebackers can't tackle in space. One of the reasons he's unhappy he has the cheapest owner in the league and one of the smallest, most ordinary front offices. And he watches Mahomes and he watches Stafford and he watches Jordan Love and Jalen Hurts and all the talent they have the Bengals pass blocking grades since Joe Burrow started. I'll read you them in order 27th, 29th, 31st, 22nd, 29th, 27th he has consistently had the worst offensive lines. When you're eight and one in your last nine Starts and you're not having fun. Let me take you back to a line from Red in Shawshank Redemption. He said, I have to remind myself that some birds aren't meant to be caged. Their feathers are just too bright. I would add Ohtani with the Angels, Saquon with the Giants, LeBron in Cleveland, Shaq in Orlando, maybe KG in Minnesota. Carson Palmer and Joe Burrow. The franchise, the ownership, the tiny, unspectacular front office, the egregiously bad, mostly for Burrow. Offensive lines. Some birds can't be caged. The feathers too bright. I could read to the rest of that bite, but you get the point.
Greg Cosell
And you.
Colin Cowherd
You heard Burrow. That wasn't a quote. That was Burrow. That seemed like a happy guy. Find me a quarterback who's what, eight of nine? And he's that pensive.
Guest/Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)
Hey, by the way, do you want to guess how old Joe Burrow is? I did not know this. He looks so young.
Colin Cowherd
31.
Guest/Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)
No, he just turned 29 yesterday. 29. Joe Burrow.
Colin Cowherd
I was watching his knees and his body and his career. I said this two years ago. I'd force a trade. I mean, hey, if you were really talented, let's say you're a really, really good salesperson. But you worked at an industry where you couldn't get out of your contract, and the company kept giving you lousy products to sell. And your rivals, guys you knew you were a better salesman then, were crushing you. They had better products. You just. You just didn't have the blue pill. You didn't have Lipitor.
Guest/Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)
Oh, geez, here we go.
Colin Cowherd
Okay, that's Burrow. He's sitting watching all these guys, and he can't make the playoffs. Cheapest owner, tiny front office, never aggressive, making trades. I do not blame Joe Burrow or any employee. If you feel trapped, you're watching less talented rivals, peers, contemporaries, because they have better bosses and better management. What have I always said in this business? Don't chase money, chase management. There's a sea of money. There's a finite level of really good people behind the scenes that run networks.
Guest/Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)
Can I ask you, as a member of JNC Consulting, what would you advise Burrow to do in that situation? Because remember, leaving is tough. You're going to be the villain. KD was the villain for leaving a lot of LeBron.
Colin Cowherd
Come on.
Guest/Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)
They're burning his jersey.
Colin Cowherd
You'll be the villain in Cincinnati. I mean, do they even have an Applebee's? I mean. I mean, I got news for you. If he ends up in blank. This really isn't a shot at Cincinnati. It's a shot of the people who own the Bengals. I don't care about Cincinnati.
Greg Cosell
Right, right.
Colin Cowherd
Like, it. It. The truth is, who cares? Oh, you're a villain. LeBron was the biggest star in the world, like, globally. He was like Ronaldo.
Greg Cosell
Okay.
Colin Cowherd
Joe Burrow is an NFL quarterback. Like, he's popular, but there's a lot of them. And. But my take is I think people in Cincinnati are smart enough to know he's not getting support. Yeah, I don't think people are out there. Like, when LeBron left seven years in Cleveland, they couldn't get him a second good player.
Guest/Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)
I understood that. I just don't know how Burrow fixes this. This is clearly a plea to ownership. Freaking do something, guys. Since the super bowl, have they done anything Colin, like, roster wise to get better?
Colin Cowherd
They never make.
Guest/Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)
I mean, you look at the way the Rams are retooling constantly.
Colin Cowherd
The Rams got Devonte Adams, Nate Landman.
Guest/Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)
Their drafts are dominant.
Colin Cowherd
Emanuel Forbes. And they never make because they have a massive scouting department. The Eagles have a massive scouting department. Sheer numbers, volume, talent. J. Mac with the news.
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Colin Cowherd
Turn on the news. This is the Herd line news.
Guest/Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)
All right, let's go to Justin Herbert. So they had that rousing win on Monday Night Football surviving the Eagles. And then the bad news afterward. Herbert underwent precautionary X rays to make sure his hand wasn't further damaged. Remember, he was stiffing or stiff arming a safety in space. Here is Herbert talking about those results yesterday.
Greg Cosell
Yeah, it was pretty sore yesterday, but I think for the most part got images done, X rays and everything was clean.
Colin Cowherd
For the most part, it wasn't very effective.
Greg Cosell
But no, in the moment, I think.
Colin Cowherd
That was the best thing that I.
Greg Cosell
Could have done for the team.
Colin Cowherd
And, you know, getting that first down and doing everything I can to be.
Greg Cosell
Able to get around that edge.
Colin Cowherd
And, you know, there's a world where.
Greg Cosell
It is effective and maybe I'm staying on my feet and getting more yards.
Colin Cowherd
Listen, they are. They were a four and a half point dog. Now they're a five and a half point dog. So the Sharps are pounding the Chiefs.
Guest/Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)
I thought you four and a half to like five and a half. Isn't that your zone where it's like hammer the favorite?
Colin Cowherd
I initially at the lower number. I like the Chargers, but if it's five and a half has always been that space where it's like, just take the favorite.
Guest/Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)
Trey Smith was at practice yesterday for The Chiefs, their guard who missed last week. Trent McDuffie's okay. It seems like he's practicing. I'm just going to remind you the last time the Chargers were on the road they got smashed by Jacksonville35. 6. Justin Herbert's last three games. These are his passing yardage totals. 81 yards, 151, 139 in an overtime game. They may get worked here this weekend.
Greg Cosell
All right.
Guest/Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)
I mean I listen, I'm rooting Chargers but I, I do think if you are going to bet the Chiefs this is the time for them to make the playoffs. They win this game, all of a sudden the path is there. They got a couple jokers left on the schedule. Next up, Denver Broncos. They enter this game against the who they play packers on a 10 game win streak. Colin. But like New England, their home underdogs this weekend, which is a little surprising to many. Not us. In a recent radio appearance Sean Payton was asked about being a home dog on a 10 game win streak. Here's what he said about that.
Greg Cosell
I don't really pay attention to that.
Colin Cowherd
Until I mean, look, we know we're.
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Playing a good football team and so.
Colin Cowherd
That'S something that we have no control over.
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You know we.
Colin Cowherd
Look, we, we've got four tough opponents.
Greg Cosell
The next four weeks.
Colin Cowherd
Three of the four of them are at home.
Greg Cosell
You know, we're counting on our crowd this week.
Colin Cowherd
Our last home game with Kansas City.
Greg Cosell
Was significant and, and, and I'm counting.
Colin Cowherd
On it being even at a higher level. So yeah, we're playing a good team. It's interesting game. Yeah, I mean Green Bay comes off highly emotional game against their rival the Bears. What if they're a little flat?
Guest/Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)
That's possible.
Colin Cowherd
It's an AFC team.
Guest/Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)
Some people are calling this not we but not us but a potential super bowl preview. Yeah, I, I don't see it. I'm curious, how do you think Bo Nicks fares against Micah Parsons and company because remember they really only rush four. They get to the quarterback and then in the background they've got that zone which is kind of confusing. Caleb did not make any mistakes but you know, he was extra cautious. They have a good run game. I don't know how Denver moves the ball easily.
Colin Cowherd
I think that's a fair question.
Guest/Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)
Scripted drive will be fine.
Colin Cowherd
Some of the, some of the Bears moving the ball at least twice. Was Caleb making an otherworldly play?
Guest/Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)
Can Bo Nix do. Do you trust him to do that?
Colin Cowherd
On the. Well, he's not Caleb Williams.
Guest/Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)
I agree. By the way, the Bears did not have a carry longer than nine yards last week. Yeah, no J.K. dobbins, obviously, they got the screen. I think this lines up for the Packers.
Greg Cosell
We'll see. We'll see.
Guest/Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)
Final story. Colin. So who's the best running back in the NFL? I mean, I think you would and I would agree this season. Gibbs.
Greg Cosell
Yeah.
Guest/Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)
Two years ago, CMAC last year, Barkley. This year, Gibbs has been unbelievable. Over 1500 yards from scrimmage, 16 touchdowns. And McVay knows that the Rams defense, they're going to have their hands full with Jameer Gibbs as an exploit, as.
Greg Cosell
Explosive of a player as there is in this league.
Colin Cowherd
Every single time he touches it, you're like, oh my gosh, he might score. And you know, he's, he's unbelievable in both phases. You see him compete in protection. You know, there was a reason why he was so highly regarded coming out of Bama. And so he is a special, special player.
Greg Cosell
And they've got a lot of them.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah, I, I think the Lions defense, without Branch, I think they're going to struggle and make stops. I really do.
Greg Cosell
What about the Rams?
Guest/Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)
Can they contain Gibbs now? They shoot. They see Christian McCaffrey twice a year. So they're very well versed in running backs out of the backfield. You know, Landman's having, I'm telling you.
Colin Cowherd
Right now, those three moves, Forbes @ corner, laminate linebacker, Devonte Adams, they didn't have a lot of holes to begin.
Guest/Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)
With. This raw offensive line, I mean, they just keep.
Colin Cowherd
Getting. Offensive line is, I think, very good. The two guards are great. The tackles, I think right tackle Haven Stein probably is last year can't really block the speed rushers, but I, I Rams. And they're going to go get a corner with one of their first.
Guest/Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)
Picks. Well, listen, they got Atlanta's pick in the top 10 as of right now. Remember from that trade that, I mean, they are, Listen, man, Rams are prime. They're in great shape. You know, there's some chatter. If Stafford wins a Super bowl, does he retire? Then you could use future picks to go get a quarterback. Not necessarily Mendoza, but maybe someone existing in the.
Colin Cowherd
NFL.
Guest/Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)
Who. I floated C.J. stroud a few, few months ago. Now the Texans have turned things around. Remember, Stroud was unhappy.
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Know. We just talked about Joe Burrow. Bagels won't want to give him up. But it is fun to speculate. And listen, the Rams. Can you get us in her draft room so we can figure out the.
Colin Cowherd
Situation? I can get me in the draft room. Sometimes you're gonna leave me like.
Guest/Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)
The velvet rope and I'm just left on the outside with the unwashed masses. Just please let me.
Colin Cowherd
In. J. Mac with a new well, that's the news and thanks for stopping by. The Herd lie news yeah there is we showed it yesterday. The top the the current draft order. They're they're the top 12 teams. Eight, seven minimum. Eight may want a quarterback if Dante Moore stays in college and there's a likelihood he will will stay in college like Supply is not meeting demand mendoza go. There's 700 teams in a quarterback. So if Ty Simpson stays at Alabama, which I don't I don't see him as a first round quarterback. So why not just make 3,4 million bucks at Alabama? So it is sometimes supply demand don't connect. Fascinating. Go look right now at the current draft order top 12 teams because the Rams would like to first three picks get a quarterback somewhere. Be sure to catch live editions of the Herd weekdays at noon Eastern, 9am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, FS1 and the iHeartRadio.
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Greg Cosell
Y'.
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Colin Cowherd
Fox. I thought it was a real moment of clarity. You know, one of the reasons I bring Greg Cosell on, I think he makes everybody smarter. Myself. Obviously, he makes me smarter. And then the other thing is Greg, Greg doesn't pick a side. He doesn't care. He's, you know, he's not telling you anything other than what the film says. That's why I always ask him at the end, what's the film say? And I think he nailed it. On Buffalo. I don't think they're that talented. Here's Greg.
Greg Cosell
Cosell. You'd be hard pressed to name an impact player that they have on the defensive Side of the ball. They certainly don't have a receiving core. If we look at Shakir and say he's their best receiver, he's clearly a number three type, he's very good at that. But he's a number three type. So they're really not that good a football team. And I know that there's been a lot of talk about, well, this is Josh, Alan Gier, and if he doesn't make it, you know, that is so silly. They're just not that good overall from a talent perspective.
Colin Cowherd
Now. Yeah, when you're paying your quarterback, I think Josh Allen has the second biggest cap hit in the league. It is harder. I'm not, not disagreeing with that at all, but I. There are certain teams in this league, Rams, Lions, Eagles, you just start looking at their talent. There's the Texans defense, Seattle, a lot of my favorite GMs. I, I think it's time I said this earlier. It reminds me of when John Elway was in Denver. Dan Reeves was a good coach. They had to go to another level offensively. They got Mike Shanahan and then they got Terrell Davis. This team doesn't have a trustable wide receiver. How is that possible? College football furnishes you with about 20 a year that can play. I mean, how is it possible they don't have, you know, a defensive guy you've got a scheme for so they can't stop the run. Some of this we all blame quarterbacks and coaches. The front office has missed on picks and, and I understand it's hard. I just don't. They don't pass the eye test. It's kind of the opposite with Seattle. Totally pass the eye test. We worry about the quarterback in a big spot with Buffalo. Love the quarterback. Everything else is arguable. Bruce Feldman stopped by earlier. I think Michigan's going to be fine for a lot of reasons. It's one of the top 10 highest endowments. They got a lot of money. A lot of smart people have gone there. They leave and they come back to the games and they write checks. In the nil era, Michigan is fine. I also think, you know, it's early. It's December, what, 11th. We don't even. Bowl games haven't been played. The College Football Playoff, am I right? December 11th. So the portal doesn't open until January. I think Michigan's an all time blue blood job. Here's Bruce.
Greg Cosell
Feldman. It's the bluest of blue blue blood jobs. Jim Harbaugh won a national title, as we know, just a couple Years ago. And there's a lot of good young talents, starting with Bryce Underwood. They signed a top, you know, one of the top running backs in the country. There's a lot of pieces to work with. If Penn State didn't hire Matt Campbell, Matt Campbell probably would have been a really good candidate for this job. I don't know what they missed out on. You're Michigan. You're not going to hire Lane Kiffin.
Colin Cowherd
Anyway. Way right. And I said this earlier with Shiron Moore, the bigger the legend you replace, the wider the search has to be to replace him. Belichick leaves New England, they're like, ah, let's just give it to a guy on staff. Disaster. Harbaugh leaves. Just give it to the co offensive coordinator, the former O line coach. That's not big enough. And I, I've been watching this my entire life. Give it to the coach's son. Let's give it to this, let's give it that. Michigan football is a global search job. I mean, you, you gotta go after. To me, I would go after Brian dable and Kalyn DeBoer. I'd go and find a guy in the NFL that's made the playoffs. Brian Dable may not be a college guy. Here's Bruce Feldman on, on earlier on the candidates, if they get knocked.
Greg Cosell
Out early in the playoff, there's going to be immense pressure mounting on Kalyn DeBoer there. I'm not saying he's going to definitely bail, but it wouldn't surprise me. He looked at and go, you know what? That might be a better fit for me now, you know, if, like, if people are again. And that's if he.
Colin Cowherd
Loses. Yeah, it is. And I say this respectfully, to Alabama and the sec. The sec. Ohio State's the only school outside of the SEC that feels like the sec. I mean, go to a message board for the Buckeyes during a game, if they don't pick up a first down in the second quarter, they want the entire staff fired. They're nuts. The SEC is different. You know, maybe it's in the footprint. You don't have as many pro sports teams and other things, but it's just, it takes years off you unless you dominate like Saban. So Kalyn Deborah to Alabama, to me was a great hire, but an interesting fit. He's a Midwest guy. I would not leave Alabama for Penn State. I would strongly consider leaving Alabama for Michigan. And Michigan's a different job. They want you to win, but it's not sec, Ohio State level. It's not, it's not that level of vitriol and pressure. And Caleb is great. I mean, I, I'm telling you, the history of college football, going from SABAN To Kalyn DeBoer, you can't do better than that. You, you can't. I mean, Dale Galen DeBoer, if you look at his career before Alabama, his winning percentage was like 80% or higher. So I think Michigan, Michigan's great. You get the best of everything. There's money. You don't have to worry about capital in the Nil era. Academics are strong but not unreasonable. You can get good players into college. It's, it's not Yale, but they're very strong. It's a beautiful place to live. It's got an unbelievable brand. Our next guest went there. Tom Brady. What did Tom major in? I don't think I ever asked him that. Tom Brady.
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Episode: THE HERD – Hour 2, December 11, 2025
Main Theme:
A deep dive into the current state of top NFL contenders, with focus on team talent, quarterback situations, and organizational dynamics. Greg Cosell (NFL Films) joins Colin Cowherd to provide film-driven analysis, with particular scrutiny on the Eagles’ championship outlook, the Bills’ supporting cast around Josh Allen, Joe Burrow’s mental state in Cincinnati, and trending NFL teams and players.
Positivity Rabbit Controversy: The segment opens playfully, with Colin mocking the Eagles’ attempt to boost locker-room morale using an “Easter bunny” ("positivity rabbit")—weeks before Christmas.
Undercurrent: Colin shifts to questioning whether the Eagles look like a genuine champion at this point in the season, using the locker room episode as a small window into larger team culture questions.
Colin questions the Bills' roster: "Buffalo feels like that defense is not good enough. They don’t have a downfield consistent receiver. Is it time for a reality check?" (05:38)
Greg Cosell’s Analysis:
Colin’s Synthesis: The Bills have become too dependent on Allen’s improvisation, lacking enough blue-chip talent to consistently threaten top teams.
Colin’s Theory: Burrow may be “tired” of Cincy, like Palmer before him: tiny front office, cheap owner, perpetually bad offensive lines.
Notable quote:
Discussion (33:22–35:40):
For listeners who missed the episode:
This hour provides a candid, film-driven look at why certain teams are trending up or down (and not just because of their quarterbacks), why organization and management matters as much as roster talent, and why certain NFL and college football players may soon reach their breaking point with their current situations. Great listening for fans who value honest, unsentimental football talk, and who want to understand the deeper structural forces shaping today’s NFL.