THE HERD - Hour 2 - The most optimistic fan base, QBs that are worth the most points, college football so far, Joel Klatt

Summary

The Herd with Colin Cowherd — Hour 2

Episode Date: September 3, 2025
Main Guests: Joel Klatt (FOX Sports, college football analyst)
Main Themes: Optimism of NFL fanbases, quarterback value, early-season college football reactions, and in-depth analysis of Ohio State vs. Texas.

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Episode Overview

In this spirited mid-week episode, Colin Cowherd is joined by college football analyst Joel Klatt for a packed second hour. The conversation pivots from NFL optimism and quarterbacks’ point value, into a deep dive on college football’s most talked-about matchups and early narratives. Highlights include a thorough breakdown of the Ohio State–Texas showdown, quarterback performances, coaching critiques, and debates over program cultures and coaching fits. Sprinkled throughout are classic Cowherd quips, humorous banter with Joel Klatt, and predictions for the football weekend ahead.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. NFL Kickoff, Fanbase Optimism, and Quarterback Value

[02:15–06:27]

• NFL Season Hype:
  The episode sets the tone with excitement about five consecutive days of football, highlighting matchups like Eagles vs. Cowboys and Chargers vs. Chiefs.

  • “NFL opens tomorrow. Dallas will get clobbered by the Philadelphia Eagles. And then Friday, I think I like the Chargers in a mild upset over Andy Reid.” — Colin Cowherd [02:17]

• Fanbase Optimism Index:
  Discusses The Athletic’s “hopometer” which ranks fans’ optimism. Chicago Bears fans are highlighted as especially hopeful despite harsh winters.

  • “People in Chicago, they are fired up… When you have tough winters, you're grateful and appreciative of the good times.” — Colin [03:40]

• Ranking QB Value by Vegas:
  Vegas released a ranking of quarterbacks by the points they're “worth.” Josh Allen finishes #1, Mahomes #2, with interesting names like Jalen Hurts and Dak Prescott higher than anticipated.

  • “Vegas is truth serum. Vegas cares about one thing, getting it right.” — Colin [04:19]
  • Key Insight: Josh Allen is singled out as the only elite QB who must “wear the cape” without a stacked supporting cast.
  • “The one guy on that list that kind of has to put a cape on is Josh Allen.” — Colin [06:15]

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2. College Football’s New Era and Week 1 Reactions

[06:27–14:44]

• Expanding Playoff Brings Better Matchups:
  Cowherd argues that the expanded playoff motivates better schedules. Texas and Clemson have early stumbles, but both are still playoff threats.

• Deep Dive: Ohio State vs. Texas, Arch Manning’s Debut

  • High expectations and big stages: Hype for quarterbacks like Arch Manning and the difficulty of starting on the road is dissected.
  • “He did not play well. I was surprised at the inaccuracy… In hindsight, he had never thrown a college pass outside of Austin, you know, and so, like, starting on the road is hard, much less against Ohio State in that environment.” — Joel Klatt [08:11]

• Ohio State Defense & Matt Patricia's Impact:
  The strategic prowess of Matt Patricia (now OSU’s defensive coordinator) is praised for disguising coverages and stymieing Texas’s offense.

  • “Matt Patricia deserves a ton of credit for what happened in that game.” — Klatt [08:37]

• Young Stars and In-Game Adjustments:
  Ohio State’s new corners, especially Jermaine Matthews, are already outperforming expectations.

  • “Jermaine Matthews might be the best corner that I've seen on the practice field in a long time.” — Joel quoting Lathan Ransom [09:28]

  • Takeaway: Both Ohio State and Texas likely just faced the best defenses they'll see all year.

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3. Quarterback Critiques and Program Outlooks

[12:03–14:44]

• Quarterback Comfort and Poise Over Stats:
  Julian Sayin’s calm demeanor is highlighted over raw statistics.

  • “As when I watch a guy like Julian saying, here's what I'm looking for. How long did it take him to deliver the ball? Was he holding it? No, he wasn't… The velocity was there, the accuracy was there.” — Klatt [14:00]

• Ohio State's Advantage:
  The combination of strong secondary, linebackers, and Patricia’s NFL-caliber schemes provides an unusual luxury to break in a young QB.

  • “[Ohio State’s] the only SEC team North… the fans, the talk, the relentlessness, the commitment. Ohio State, it's more than that.” — Colin [29:08]

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4. Assessing Top Teams, Coaching Fits, and Weekend Previews

[14:44–25:41]

• Michigan Questions, Miami & ACC Hype:
  Colin is wary about Michigan’s performance, lauds Bryce Underwood’s talent, and is “rooting for Miami.”

  • “I like Miami. I like a little sizzle with my steak.” — Colin [15:18]

• Miami & Notre Dame’s Playoff Prospects:
  Miami’s development under Mario Cristobal and their offensive line’s dominance is highlighted. ACC's rise as a conference with legitimate playoff contenders is noted.

• Coaching Comfort vs. Growth (Belichick in Carolina):
  Cowherd raises the classic caution about hiring friends and family vs. seeking new ideas, using Belichick’s new Carolina staff as an example.

  • “If you want to grow, don't seek comfort. …But that's not what is working with Andy Reid… he can disagree with Spags.” — Colin [18:45]

• North Carolina’s Rocky Start:
  Klatt defends UNC, citing 70 new players and a daunting week-one opponent, noting their development arc will be gradual.

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5. SEC Intensity, Saban/DeBoer Comparison, and Alabama’s Woes

[25:13–29:40]

• SEC vs. Big Ten Intensity:
  Discussion on the relentless pressure, especially in the SEC compared to the Midwest.

  • “There is one topic in the south for 12 months, it's SEC football.” — Colin [24:15]

• Is DeBoer a Fit at Alabama?

  • Klatt speculates about coaching “fit” and the massive shoes DeBoer must fill post-Saban.
    • “This is a no win for Kaylin DeBoer.” — Klatt [25:13]
  • The discussion moves to Alabama’s lack of effort and physicality in defeat, suggesting cultural/lifestyle misalignment.

• Game Plan Flaws:

  • “Where was the effort?” — Klatt [25:59]
  • They question receiver usage, offensive line play, and overall lack of urgency compared with the Saban era.

• Michigan/Ohio State’s Future:
  Both hosts agree: Ohio State has the trajectory and the program culture edge, with Colin predicting OSU dominance in the rivalry over the next decade.

  • “Ohio State is going to run that series for a decade.” — Colin [29:35]

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6. Impact of NIL and Scrutiny on College QBs

[38:09–41:49]

• Arch Manning’s Marketing vs. Production:
  Cowherd is skeptical of Manning’s multiple ad campaigns before on-field dominance, but admits NIL changes the scrutiny landscape.

  • “I always thought Brady did it right. I want to see production and trophies before I get a bunch of ads.” — Colin [39:18]

• NIL is “Pro Free Agency”:

  • Lane Kiffin’s take gets a nod — college QBs are essentially pros now and are fair game for criticism.
    • “Nil is free agency. That's what nil is. It's professional free agency.” — Colin [41:40]

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7. Notable NFL & CFB Weekend Picks/News

[46:08–51:18]

• Rising College Football TV Ratings:
  The Texas–Ohio State game sets an all-time week-one viewership record.

  • “It's the most watched week 1 game in the history of college football.” — Colin [36:34]

• NFL Notes:

  • Colin likes the Jets vs. Seahawks, and is bullish on the Packers at home vs. the Lions.
  • Discussion of key injuries and concerns for teams like the Jets and Lions.
  • Packers' Jordan Love is described as “more Favre than Rodgers”.

• Clemson–LSU Breakdown:

  • Brian Kelly and Dabo Swinney trade barbs post-game; LSU praised for assertive second-half adjustments.
    • “I thought LSU was clearly the better team… Garrett Nussmeier may have had the best weekend of every quarterback to go on the road.” — Colin [50:41]

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Memorable Quotes (with Timestamps & Attribution)

• “The one guy on that list that kind of has to put a cape on is Josh Allen.” — Colin Cowherd [06:15]
• "Matt Patricia deserves a ton of credit for what happened in that game." — Joel Klatt [08:37]
• “Vegas is truth serum. Vegas cares about one thing, getting it right.” — Colin [04:19]
• "I always thought Brady did it right. I want to see production and trophies before I get a bunch of ads." — Colin [39:18]
• “Ohio State is going to run that series for a decade.” — Colin Cowherd [29:35]
• “Nil is free agency. That's what nil is. It's professional free agency.” — Colin [41:40]
• “Where was the effort?” — Joel Klatt on Alabama post-Saban [25:59]
• “SEC intensity is different… In the South, there’s one topic for 12 months.” — Colin [24:15]

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Notable Segments and Timestamps

| Segment Description | Start Time | |--------------------------------------------------|------------| | NFL Optimism/Fanbase rankings | 02:15 | | Vegas ranks QBs by point value | 04:19 | | CFB Playoff expansion & better games | 06:27 | | OSU-Texas/Quarterback breakdown with Klatt | 07:35 | | In-depth on Matt Patricia at OSU | 10:21 | | Miami & ACC surge | 15:14 | | Belichick/Carolina “comfort vs. discomfort” | 18:41 | | North Carolina’s week one struggles | 19:38 | | Alabama, DeBoer, SEC comparisons | 24:45 | | Ohio State vs. Michigan future | 29:08 | | The NIL effect on player criticism | 39:13 | | Ohio State–Texas sets viewership record | 36:34 | | Latest CFB (Clemson/LSU), NFL news, picks | 46:51 |

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Tone and Style

• Characteristically direct, witty, and at times sardonic (Cowherd).
• Informative and conversational, with a blend of stats and eye tests (Cowherd & Klatt).
• Discussions often include lighthearted barbs and good natured arguments, especially on analytics vs. "feel."
• High-level football analysis mingled with accessible pop-culture and relatable analogies.

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Summary Takeaways

• NFL: Excitement is at a fever pitch for week one. QB value isn’t just about highlights — Vegas’s numbers reward overall franchise impact, with Josh Allen leading the field.
• CFB: The expanded playoff is paying immediate dividends for fans; Week 1 was landmark both in viewership and drama. Ohio State and Texas are at the center, with young QBs, elite defenses, and coaching schemes drawing most scrutiny.
• Culture & Coaching: SEC intensity and program fits matter — DeBoer struggles to instill Saban’s urgency.
• Player Marketing/NIL: College athletes, especially QBs, are now subject to professional-level critique and must balance fame, money, and on-field results.
• Looking Ahead: Both NFL and college football have more questions than answers, but the energy, optimism, and unpredictability are at all-time highs.

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This episode is ideal for any football fan eager for context, expert breakdowns, and the kinds of debates that shape a full weekend of gridiron action.

Transcript

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[Colin Cowherd]

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[Joel Klatt]

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[Colin Cowherd]

Thanks for listening to the Herd podcast. Be sure to catch us live every weekday on Fox Sports Radio and noon to 3 Eastern, 9am to noon Pacific. Find your local station for the [e-mail] or stream us live every day on the iHeartRadio app by searching Fox Sports Radio or FSR. Now let's get this party started. You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. All right, here we go. It is a Wednesday. NFL opens tomorrow. Dallas will get clobbered by the Philadelphia Eagles. And then Friday. I think I like the Chargers. And a mild upset over Andy Reid. I know going against Mahomes who has now a brand new offensive line lost their best interior line. Remember Kansas City's been blown out twice in Super Bowls. It doesn't always end well for the Chiefs. It generally starts very well. But it is a five straight days of football starting Thursday. So it is, it is outstanding. Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday we have great football. Monday, Bears hosting the Vikings is an unbelievable game. Has there ever been a game that you cared more about where a place that you've never lived and you don't really know much about the quarterbacks, how good they are. I can't wait to watch that game. I'm telling you, in Chicago we looked at that hopo meter rating by the Athletic where fans are pulled. Chicago's like middle upper of the pack. People in Chicago, they are fired up. They're, they're, they. When you have tough winners, you're grateful and appreciative of the good times. Tough arctic winters. So I think Chicago feels pretty good about it but. And the packers by the way, interesting. It was pre Mica trade but they were the best organization that didn't have massive optimism. Denver finished number one.

[Guest Analyst]

Hey, by the way, in that Vikings game, can I bet JJ McCarthy points on the opening drive? You know, Kevin O' Connell is coming out with some great scripted stuff Monday night. They're going to just right down the field for points guaranteed.

[Colin Cowherd]

So there something was released today. We've always said Vegas is truth serum. Vegas cares about one thing, getting it right. So they listed the quarterbacks who are worth the most points in the NFL. Josh Allen's number one, Patrick Mahomes number two. And I and I think this goes down to something I touched on yesterday. Nobody disputes that Mahomes is unbelievable, but it does feel like some of his greatness is schemed up and designed by Andy Reid. When you watch Josh Allen in the playoffs and they did that quarterback sneak that looked like they drew it up at halftime, they just kind of made it up. And when they couldn't get first downs, if Josh Allen isn't Superman, if he's not wearing a cape, Buffalo does not win those big games. And since 2018, number one and two in the league in terms of total touchdowns is Number one, Josh Allen and number two, Mahomes. I would put Josh Allen to me, in terms of points, the most valuable singular player in the NFL, Jalen Hurts finished 4 higher than I would have predicted. But Jalen Hurts because of the tush push, gets first downs, moves the chains, keeps the ball away from your quarterback. You know, it's Burrow. It's. I mean, but again, Burrow has Jamar Chase, Zach Taylor an offensive coach. Mahomes has an offensive coach. Jalen Hurts has the best offensive line. You start looking at all these quarterbacks. Josh Allen, O lines. Okay, who's his number one receiver? Defensive, go most of these guys. Justin Herbert's number six. Well, it helps. He's got, you know, Harbaugh, Dak, Prescott. Say what you want is always had offensive coaches. Jared Goff's got a great line. Jaden Daniels has Terry McLaurin. He'll have Debo. Better O line than you think. And Cliff Kingsbury. CJ Stroud, when healthy, has very good receiving weapons. The one guy on that list, Lamar Jackson as Derek Henry, excellent O line. The one guy on that list that kind of has to put a cape on is Josh Allen.

[Joel Klatt]

It is.

[Colin Cowherd]

It is his franchise. So I think he is against the spread. Vegas agrees that is the most valuable quarterback. Dak is higher than I would have guessed. Jalen Hurts is as well. But I've. So I sort of get Jalen Hurts as a complimentary piece to that offense, but his ability to pick up first downs with his legs and on the tush push it, you know, you just end up winning the field position battle a lot in Philadelphia. So that's where we stand. So this weekend, one of my complaints about college football through the years is that there are not enough big games. So when people freaked out about the College Football Playoff, you know, going to 12 or 14 games, my takeaway is the schedules will get better. You can lose. Texas lost. They're still, in my opinion, an overwhelming favorite to make the playoff. Clemson lost at home, close to lsu. I still think they'll make the playoff. And to talk about a weekend one, including Bill Belichick's dud. Joel Klatt, the voice of college football, is joining us on the Herd.

[Joel Klatt]

What's up, dude?

[Colin Cowherd]

It is great to see you.

[Joel Klatt]

I, you know, how you doing?

[Colin Cowherd]

I'm doing well. J. Mac and I talked about this earlier, that there's this sense that, hey, let's. The hype for Arch Manning was great. And I would say the hype for Caleb Williams at SC was insane. Yeah, Quinn Ewers, five star high score. The hype at the big programs for star quarterbacks is always huge. Yeah, there are no Ohio State quarterbacks that don't have to win openers.

[Joel Klatt]

Yeah.

[Colin Cowherd]

Especially at home. So I think the criticism, it wasn't that he lost, it's what it looked like.

[Joel Klatt]

Yeah, I think that's fair. And listen, he did not play well. I was surprised at the inaccuracy.

[Colin Cowherd]

Same.

[Joel Klatt]

I thought that he would be more accurate. But I will say, listen, in hindsight, he had never thrown a college pass outside of Austin, you know, and so, like, starting on the road is hard, much less against Ohio State in that environment. And a defense that, I got to tell you, Colin, like, their ability to change looks, confuse the offensive line. It was fantastic. Matt Patricia deserves a ton of credit for what happened in that game. And I would say this. There was some of some of those new starters for Ohio State that came out there and played better than the guys that left. You know, like Jermaine Matthews at corner was sensational. Arvell Reese, the linebacker, looks like he's going to be a dominant player at the second level.

[Colin Cowherd]

Ohio State probably has the best corners in the country.

[Joel Klatt]

Yeah, I think Igbosan played really well. And then Jermaine Matthews on the other side looks like he. And I was actually. So on Thursday night, I was with Lathan Ransom, who was a safety last year, won a national championship. Really good player, has done a nice job in camp in the NFL. And I was just talking to him, and I asked him, I said, hey, of the young guys, like, who do you think is ready to. To be in Ohio State? A silver bullet, you know, as they say, part of the brotherhood. And he goes, he said, I was just at practice. And he said, I think Jermaine Matthews might be the best corner that I've seen on the practice field in a long time. And that's from a guy that's been on the practice field. He's seen it at Ohio State, and he certainly played that way. Speaking of Jermaine Matthews, but back to Arch really quickly, I think that what we, what we failed to realize was just how big the stage was going to be, in particular that opponent. And, and because of that, I'm really not worried about Arch in Texas. I really. I really am not.

[Colin Cowherd]

So I'll give you an example. So NFL guys. So Belichick's kid coached at Washington defensive side last year. The Huskies in the Big Ten were number two against the pass and like, number 16 or 17 against the run. And the reason I mentioned that is NFL defensive coordinators. You have to be good against the pass.

[Joel Klatt]

Have to. Yeah.

[Colin Cowherd]

At college. Stop the run. You may only face one great quarterback a year. So Matt Patricia is dialing up stuff that is trying to flummox in his career. Josh Allen.

[Joel Klatt]

Yeah.

[Colin Cowherd]

And Lamar Jackson. So my take is Arch saw defensive coverages and schemes that will far surpass perhaps anything he'll see the rest of the year. That is not a knock on the sec. But Matt Patricia from Belichick is designing NFL coordinators. You got to stop the pass.

[Joel Klatt]

Yes.

[Colin Cowherd]

Right.

[Joel Klatt]

Like, yeah, I agree with that. And, and I mean, that played out in the numbers, by the way. You know, Texas ran it. Okay.

[Colin Cowherd]

And okay, should have run it more with him.

[Joel Klatt]

Maybe should have run it more with Arch and used his athleticism. Sark actually even mentioned exactly what you're talking about in a different way after the game when he was asked about the struggles offensively and more specifically Arch's struggles. And he, and he said, he said, listen, Ohio State's ability to disguise coverage wasn't just good, it was elite in the first half.

[Colin Cowherd]

Looked confused horse.

[Joel Klatt]

I mean, his last start was against Mississippi State at home way back early last year. And Mississippi State was the worst team in the sec. So the jump in competition of what he saw was massive.

[Colin Cowherd]

Okay, so I thought Ryan Day smartly and appropriately got conservative after the first two drives. He sat and looked at Arch's feet and his mechanics and he got on that headset and said, guys, we've got bad field position. Let's just play the field position game. We're going to win this game. I thought Julian saying, and J. Mac pushed back yesterday. His numbers weren't great. He had a couple of drops. He had bad field position.

[Joel Klatt]

Don't tell me J. Mac went stat sheet on you. He did.

[Colin Cowherd]

Data guy.

[Joel Klatt]

All I know is this analytics guy over here told me, what are we doing?

[Colin Cowherd]

I think I thought he was really comfortable.

[Joel Klatt]

Julian was incredibly comfortable and very solid. And Dave and said to Jenny after the game and then in his postgame press conferences that they intentionally played it safe and could have opened it up. This is the scary part about Ohio State. If you're the rest of the Big Ten right now and maybe even the rest of the country, not only did the defense look as good or better in particular in the secondary, but the offense didn't have to do anything to go beat Texas. That was the most conservative offensive game plan that you will see the rest of the year for Ohio State. And they Won the game against Texas.

[Colin Cowherd]

Yeah. And. And by the way, they're going to do this this year because Matt Patricia is going to really limit what teams can do between Ohio State secondary and Matt Patricia. They're. They're very lucky. This is a year you can get away with an inexperienced quarterback.

[Joel Klatt]

I think so, too.

[Colin Cowherd]

I got great corners, I got Ohio State linebackers, and I got the best defensive coordinator probably in the sport.

[Joel Klatt]

I think both teams just saw the best defense they'll face all year because Texas defense is an elite defense. And so even the struggles in the run game, you know, I think that Ohio State will be able to run it a little bit more. But to your point about. Just to go back to Julian sand for a moment, he looked very poised and hyper accurate. Even his numbers stat sheet guy over here, he wants to blame this. How about the drops? Claire had a drop. Smith had two drops. Innis dropped a beautiful ball down the sideline.

[Colin Cowherd]

That would have increased terrible field position after they stopped the push. Push.

[Joel Klatt]

Bad field position. As when I watch a guy like Julian saying, here's what I'm looking for. How long did it take him to deliver the ball? Was he holding it? No, he wasn't.

[Colin Cowherd]

Nope.

[Joel Klatt]

Where were his eyes? Was he scanning the entire field? No, his eyes were going to the exact right spot, right off the slot. The velocity was there, the accuracy was there. Even when he didn't throw it to Smith on that fourth and one, the ball he did throw to Max, Claire was right on the money and Claire just dropped it. That would have extended that drive. So I think if you're Ryan Day in Ohio State, you feel really good. Not just because you got the win, but the two things that you were wondering about. How is this Patricia marriage going to work out? Well, excellent. Yeah. In particular with Caleb Downs at at safety and his knowledge and ability at safety. And then your young quarterback went out there in a giant stage against the best defense that he's going to face all year long and played really solid football.

[Colin Cowherd]

Yeah, I know Michigan fans are feeling great about themselves. I didn't like what they look like. I think Bryce Underwood's insanely talented. Ohio.

[Joel Klatt]

I was impressed with Bryce.

[Colin Cowherd]

No, he's, he's, you know, he's the real deal.

[Joel Klatt]

Yeah, for sure.

[Colin Cowherd]

Yeah, he's really good. I got questions about Michigan. I don't have any about Ohio State. So. I've always said I'm a guy that's about substance. Are you calling me a mason? I'm laying bricks every day.

[Joel Klatt]

Volleyball guy over here building Foundations over here.

[Colin Cowherd]

Out here I am.

[Joel Klatt]

Don't give me stat sheets. I want to see tangible evidence.

[Colin Cowherd]

That's right. But I like Miami. I like a little sizzle with my steak. And I think college. I found myself.

[Joel Klatt]

Wait, wait. Which one are you? Are you substance or sizzle? You just told me everything. Wait, time out. What's happening?

[Colin Cowherd]

That doesn't mean I can't unbutton this puppy. One more button and let my hair down a little.

[Joel Klatt]

Get a little aggressive with the chest.

[Colin Cowherd]

Rooting for Miami, did you? I found myself pulling for Miami.

[Joel Klatt]

It was a fun game to watch. I'll tell. I'll tell you this. I thought that the. The ACC in general, with the way. With the way Miami looked and the way the Florida State looked. And here's what I thought was the biggest revelation from the Notre Dame, Miami game is that Notre Dame didn't make the dumb mistake in terms of game management. You know, like, they went out there and they made the plays necessary. And Carson Beck looked really good last year. Let's. Let's not forget now. Let's take Carson Beck for a moment. Carson Beck, last year, did he play great? No, he didn't. Then he had the. The elbow injury, which I was concerned about, just because it's a tough elbow injury. So you're wanting to see his accuracy and his velocity. I thought it was really solid. And then you get the sense, too. It's like, hey, let's remember Georgia's wide receivers were terrible. They led the country in drops last year. And a lot of the blame went to Carson Beck, and it shouldn't have. He shouldered a lot of the blame for the way Georgia played offensively. And really, it was more about the guys around him. And that was evident on set on Sunday night. I guess it was when he was playing against Notre Dame. Again, I don't have many questions about both of those teams. Notre Dame is really good quarterback.

[Colin Cowherd]

No. C.J. carr. No. They're both playoff teams. The difference is Notre Dame, Miami's offensive front.

[Joel Klatt]

They were good.

[Colin Cowherd]

Yeah, like Penn State good. Mario. Notre Dame down.

[Joel Klatt]

Mario Cristobal has built up those lines of scrimmage. And they played incredible, I thought, on both sides. And so just think, let's pull back for a moment in the acc. Let's just take a quick overview of the acc. Even though Clemson lost, I still think, like, okay, that's still a really good team. That was a great game. Saturday night, dominates Florida State all of a sudden. Are they.

[Colin Cowherd]

Yeah, probably the way that they look.

[Joel Klatt]

The marriage between Gus Malzon and Castellanos, their quarterback. That looks fantastic. And then now you have to. To think to yourself, is Miami actually leveling up? Are they actually going to do what we think that they should be doing after the way that they've built their roster over the last couple of years? If they start winning these types of games, all of a sudden Miami is a bonafide ACC contender, playoff contender.

[Colin Cowherd]

Now Miami schedule is a little tricky. And they got Florida's. They got Florida. That schedule suddenly is a lot harder than it looked before that Notre Dame game. Those Florida schools may be better than we think.

[Joel Klatt]

I totally agree with you.

[Colin Cowherd]

Yeah.

[Joel Klatt]

And yet I. I would say, like, let's give Marcus Freeman and Notre Dame. That could be the better team, you know, of the Florida and Florida State. Like, they just beat Notre Dame and Notre Dame is. Is no slouch. There's no doubt.

[Colin Cowherd]

Okay, again, I find.

[Joel Klatt]

Wait. Well, I need to be ready. Is this substance or sizzle? What should I be prepared for?

[Colin Cowherd]

A mason can occasionally jump on a speedboat. You can do both. A plumber can drive an occasional convertible.

[Joel Klatt]

Can he? Interesting.

[Colin Cowherd]

Maybe masonry 24 7. But, you know, occasionally I like to have a little fun.

[Joel Klatt]

All right, let's go.

[Colin Cowherd]

Bill Belichick. And this is a. This is a. It's a cautionary tale in life. If you want to grow, don't seek comfort. I got three Belichicks, I got two Lombardi's. I got girlfriends in the program. A Jamie Collins played with him, never coached. This staff is a staff that is comfortable for Bill. It's familiar faces and familiar voices and it's friends and its allies, and that's fine. But that's not what is. Working with Andy Reid in Kansas City. He doesn't always have to love Eric B. Enemy. He can disagree with Spags. I find this Carolina thing about Bill is this staff did not. The longer they played, the worse. Carolina, like, they had their first offensive drive. I don't know.

[Joel Klatt]

I think that that's. I think that's too much.

[Colin Cowherd]

I think that's overheated.

[Joel Klatt]

I think it is. I think it's an overreaction.

[Colin Cowherd]

Too many kids on the staff.

[Joel Klatt]

I think he had too many new players.

[Colin Cowherd]

Okay.

[Joel Klatt]

You know, I mean, he had 70 new players.

[Colin Cowherd]

I mean, that, that game, they did nothing.

[Joel Klatt]

Well, I mean, the first series, they go down and score, oh, six plays, seven players.

[Colin Cowherd]

I mean, come on, you got to do better than that. You've had.

[Joel Klatt]

I totally understand. And listen, there's nobody there. The things that they struggled with in a lot of ways are fixable. Okay, like, like being gap sound on defense. That's fixable. Quarterback making a terrible decision on that out route that leads to the pick six. You know, those are things. And here's the other part of this is that I don't think that there's going to be a lineup that will change more from week one to week two, week two to week three than North Carolina because he's going to evaluate the film and he's not going to just say like, well, we got to play this kid because he's been in the program. And so I'm not going to push the panic button on North Carolina because the expectation for North Carolina was never going to be that they were going to be great right away, but it.

[Colin Cowherd]

Wasn'T to get humiliated.

[Joel Klatt]

I know, but TCU is a really good team.

[Colin Cowherd]

They're.

[Joel Klatt]

Josh Hoover threw for over 300 yards a game last year. No, no, no. Was a nine win team.

[Colin Cowherd]

But you're on the road. I saw road quarterbacks disintegrate. He ate them alive.

[Joel Klatt]

I saw young quarterbacks disintegrate. Not just road quarterbacks disintegrate. I think that the, the biggest, the biggest tell for whether a guy will play well is experience. And Hoover has the experience. Listen, I'm not trying to say North Carolina is going to be great, but if you look at their schedule, the two toughest games are clearly Clemson later. And this TCU game, this was the second best team they're going to face all year long. They have to do it week one with 70 new players. I don't think it's going to look a lot better. I mean, they're going to look better against Charlotte and Richmond and UCF Cal. I mean, that is not a daunting schedule. I still think that they can get to five or six.

[Colin Cowherd]

I don't think I'm being unfair.

[Joel Klatt]

But what's your expectation? That's my question. Like, if you're not being unfair, what were you expecting them to win nine games? Well, then yeah, they're.

[Colin Cowherd]

I was expecting them to be competitive. I thought TCU would win the game. I told J. Mack this. I thought TC would win. 18 starters, better staff. But.

[Joel Klatt]

But don't you get what I'm trying to say? If you think they were going to be competitive with tcu, then, then you're telling me that you expect them to win nine games this year. Well, I think that that's an outlandish expectation for what they're. What they are.

[Colin Cowherd]

By the way, I don't think this.

[Joel Klatt]

Is not Dion, by the way, in his first year, who had Shador and Travis Hunter, and they had real talent. They're trying to build this from scratch. So I'm just going to. I'm going to wait and see.

[Colin Cowherd]

I don't think I'm unfair when I bring up, you know, Belichick's got kids and Lobardi's kid. This is why I'm not being fair. I've seen general managers in the NFL not allow their coaches. John Snyder had a problem with Pete Carroll and his son. He didn't want him. He didn't want him as a scout. Pete put him on the staff. That was a fissure in the relationship. Years ago. Marty Schottenheimer wanted to put his son on, and I think the GM was A.J. smith. I don't think I'm taking a shot here. When you. When you start putting your kids on the staff, sometimes it works. Owners and gms are very reluctant to do that. They push back.

[Joel Klatt]

Fair.

[Colin Cowherd]

I think I'm being totally fair on that.

[Joel Klatt]

I think that's fair. I just am. I'm not going to throw dirt on. On this one yet, because again, I think that this was a perfect storm of the wrong opponent at the wrong time for this team. This team is likely to be the team that develops the most from week one to week six or seven in this season. And so. And again with that schedule, if you were expecting them to look competent and be in a close game, in a competitive game, that means you're telling me that they were going to win nine games this year. I just don't think that it was that roster.

[Colin Cowherd]

All right.

[Joel Klatt]

I mean, you walked me into that a few years ago. I remember I said, nick Saban. I was like, alabama's got a Nick Saban problem. I'm not going to do that.

[Colin Cowherd]

Let me ask you this.

[Joel Klatt]

Not going to do it.

[Colin Cowherd]

I.

[Joel Klatt]

You remember that? You remember that? I still hear about the Bama fans. Still. Still bring that up. How you doing now?

[Colin Cowherd]

Yeah, yeah, Bam. I'd zip it. Let me tell you something. I got into this discussion. Who did I. Who was I talking to about this? Oh, my buddy John Middlekopf said the south is different. The intensity of SEC football is different even than Big Ten. And they love Big Ten football, but in the.

[Joel Klatt]

In what way? Crowd environment or.

[Colin Cowherd]

I mean, it is in Chicago. They love Big Ten football. They talk Cubs, they talk Bears. In the south, there's one. Fans I'm talking about. There is one topic in the south for 12 months, it's SEC football.

[Joel Klatt]

No, I agree with that.

[Colin Cowherd]

And it is. They judge recruiting. That is, that is 12 days of sports talk. The columnists is Calyn DeBoer potentially the wrong personality fit? In fact, maybe when there was a story out this two weeks ago that when people went to that Washington team with Penix and they went and they, and they kind of scouted the staff, everybody said, boy, you got a mate here. There's no pressure. And Washington loves their football. Yeah, I've watched Jim McElwain, a friend of mine, goes down to Florida. Urban Meyer, physically worn out at Florida, goes get me up north. I don't know if Kalyn DeBoer is built for Bama and the SEC and I think Bama, even more than Georgia, is the pressure cooker.

[Joel Klatt]

I think Kaylin is an excellent coach. His record speaks for itself. I agree to your point about fit. I think that there, there could be something to that because it is a different animal. And in particular there and more specifically with, with who he's replacing. Right. I mean, this is, this is a no win for Kaylin DeBoer. That being said, here's the alarming part about what happened on Saturday is that Alabama rolled out there. It's not like they turned it over five or six times and ended up getting beat.

[Colin Cowherd]

They couldn't run the ball.

[Joel Klatt]

They were the, the, they were the team that got beat physically. They got beat schematically. They were the team that got beat by speed. They were the slower team. And here's the one that, that really shocked me. Where was the effort?

[Colin Cowherd]

There's some, there's some pieces of video out there that are alarming.

[Joel Klatt]

For 16 years, that team had a top three or four roster in the sport and they played with a sense of urgency that was unlike any other team. They played like their life depended on it, like they were like, like their next breath of air depended on their effort. Part of that was the competition built into the roster because they knew if they didn't do that, the kid behind them was just as good and would take their spot. And the other part of that was the level of expectation surrounding practice and preparation for the week. Here's where I think that Nick Saban and Kalyn DeBoer differ the most is the urgency during the week. I think Kalin approaches it a little bit more West Coast NFL style. Hey, take care of your business. We trust our plan. We trust our quality players. Let's go out there and put it on display. And when he's got experienced guys and a quality offensive line like he had with Washington and Penix with Roma, Dunze on the outside and those quality players, man, it's beautiful and it works really, really well. Now when he doesn't have that and the offensive line, which is supposed to be good, starts getting decimated and a young quarterback that doesn't have the confidence is running for his life. Plus, the game plan is wrong. Did you know that ryan Williams spent 90% of his snaps in the slot last year? It was 20% of his snaps. He is an outside receiver and a beautiful outside receiver when he's in space operating in one of the best talent.

[Colin Cowherd]

Receiver in the country after Jeremiah Smith.

[Joel Klatt]

I totally agree with that. And they were putting him in slot and he's not a slot guy, all right? He's not Tyreek in the slot or Jackson, Smith and Jigba in the slot where he's, he's, his game is about shiftiness and short area quickness. He's also not a guy like Jeremiah Smith, who's 6 4, 220 pounds, who can go across the middle. And he's not going to get punished by safeties. No, no, no. He's a guy that doesn't have that short area quickness. He's a fluid straight line, beautiful route runner wide receiver. And he was getting punished by those safeties to the point that he can't finish the game. So the game plan was wrong. The offensive line was terrible. The young quarterback was overwhelmed. Their effort was bad, they were out physical, their defense was bad. They couldn't stop the run. Where does Alabama go if I'm not panicked about Texas? I am panicked to 10 for Alabama because now all of a sudden that Alabama team is just a shell of its former self.

[Colin Cowherd]

By the way, I'm, I'm going to take Oklahoma over Michigan this weekend.

[Joel Klatt]

Okay?

[Colin Cowherd]

Yeah, I, I. Replacing Jim Harbaugh is difficult and I certainly. And we have to be honest about this. I know we have.

[Joel Klatt]

You're America's honesty broker.

[Colin Cowherd]

Well, I like to, I think most people view that as true. If you look at the history of Michigan and Notre Dame or Michigan and Ohio State and this gets people all rankled up because they love me in Ann Arbor. I am one of them. Didn't go to the school, fly over it regularly. Never went there. They love me. And I have said Ohio State's the better football program. Well, yeah, yeah. Michigan's got the better medical center. It's got the better law school. Michigan's the better universe.

[Joel Klatt]

Right, Right.

[Colin Cowherd]

But Ohio State is the only SEC team North the fans, the talk, the relentlessness, the commitment. Ohio State, it's more than that.

[Joel Klatt]

Ohio State has never had a sustained dip. You know, like they have been great for 25 or 30.

[Colin Cowherd]

So I'm going to throw this out and this may hurt one of the new guys that they hired on your show in the afternoon. I think Ohio State's going to own this series for the next 10 years.

[Joel Klatt]

Well, it's hard to say when they're owing four in their last.

[Colin Cowherd]

Not hard for this honesty broker, isn't it? Ohio State is going to run that series for a decade.

[Joel Klatt]

Okay. I mean, Michigan would beg to differ at this point. Here's the thing with this week's game for, for Michigan is. Let's go back to where we started this entire conversation. What's the one thing that we overlooked with Arch Manning? Playing on the road in a difficult environment for the first time is incredibly hard. You don't know what you don't know. As a young quarterback, I can tell you from firsthand, I remember vividly my first start on the road. It was at Kansas State in 2003, and that was a Kansas State team coached by Bill Snyder that would go on to win the Big 12.

[Colin Cowherd]

How'd you do?

[Joel Klatt]

We lost.

[Colin Cowherd]

How did you do?

[Joel Klatt]

I did not play well and I did a lot of things that were uncharacteristic. I set three formations wrong. I went the wrong way on a run play. Just because you're. You're dealing with emotions and you're dealing with things and adrenaline that you've never dealt with before on the football field. And that's something that Bryce Underwood is going to have to deal with this week when he goes to Oklahoma. And that environment is going to be outstanding. Plus, he's not going to see some vanilla New Mexico defense. He's going to see Brent Venables defense on the other side, which is aggressive. They'll change their looks. They get the call in late, it's not going to be clean pictures. So if Michigan can't just run the football at Oklahoma, then it could be difficult because I do know one thing about Michigan's offensive line. They're elite run blockers, average pass blockers. If they fall behind at all and Venables and that crowd and that pressure starts getting ratchet up, then Bryce Underwood might be under a lot of duress come Saturday night.

[Colin Cowherd]

By the way, I'm Underwood's great.

[Joel Klatt]

I do no doubt.

[Colin Cowherd]

And the kid at usc, the freshman.

[Joel Klatt]

He looks good, too.

[Colin Cowherd]

Yeah, he's good. I'm not down the play. It was a school, Missouri, that doesn't have a rich history but is on their way.

[Joel Klatt]

It was.

[Colin Cowherd]

It was. You know, you didn't ask me about my first start.

[Joel Klatt]

Oh, I'm sorry, Cullen. What was your first start?

[Colin Cowherd]

I didn't play college football.

[Joel Klatt]

Okay.

[Colin Cowherd]

I was already becoming a beacon of honesty as a broadcaster at Eastern Washington.

[Joel Klatt]

That's right.

[Colin Cowherd]

Yeah. There were opportunities, but I chose broadcasting well. And you eventually you chose correctly. We ended up at the same place.

[Joel Klatt]

Yes, yes, we did well. And you're. You're on the throne.

[Colin Cowherd]

New set.

[Joel Klatt]

This is a beautiful set.

[Colin Cowherd]

It really is. It's. It's a lot, it's. It's a. It's a lot of management. It's a lot of. A lot of pressure.

[Joel Klatt]

A lot of.

[Colin Cowherd]

And unlike Arch Manning, I'm hitting the layup.

[Joel Klatt]

So far you are doing your experience, not your first rodeo.

[Colin Cowherd]

One more herd. The herd streams 24 hours a day, seven days a week within the iHeartRadio app. Search her to listen live or on demand whenever you'd like. Hey, it's Ben, host of the fifth Hour with Ben Maller. Would mean a lot to have you.

[Joel Klatt]

Join us on our weekly auditorium.

[Colin Cowherd]

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[Angela Rye]

Are the same, just like not all Adams are the same. Adam Brody, for instance, uses WhatsApp to pin messages, send events and settle debates using polls with his friends all in one group chat.

[Colin Cowherd]

Makes our guys night easier.

[Angela Rye]

But Adam Scott group messages with an app that isn't WhatsApp. Which means he still can't find that text from his friends about where to meet.

[Joel Klatt]

Hang on, still scrolling.

[Colin Cowherd]

No, the address is here somewhere.

[Angela Rye]

It's time for WhatsApp message privately with.

[Colin Cowherd]

Everyone who cares about truth when the lies more entertaining.

[Angela Rye]

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[Colin Cowherd]

We're having the same debates that American households are having all over the country.

[Angela Rye]

Rest is certainly a form of self care, but if you are watching your full neighbors starve, not be able to pay bills, your rest is selfish. But the thing is Angela, this is not the mess we created. So I do understand black folks feeling like, you know what, y' all got it.

[Guest Analyst]

We're like family, but we disagree all the time.

[Joel Klatt]

All the time.

[Guest Analyst]

And we love when our listeners chime in.

[Angela Rye]

What would happen if we built our own little Wakandan communities in the rural South.

[Colin Cowherd]

Tiffany, do not run to no rural South. On the voice you're on.

[Angela Rye]

What our audience is asking is. Okay, fine, you want me to stop resting? What specifically are you asking me to do? Stay informed and take action.

[Colin Cowherd]

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[Joel Klatt]

I guess.

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[Colin Cowherd]

Okay, by the way, I have some information I can't give you and some that I can. You know, J. Mac, sometimes when you're in this position of authority in America, you get information. You can't tell the audience everything. But I will tell you, we just discovered the rating for the Texas Ohio State college football game. I cannot give you the rating. It is, I cannot believe the number. It is the Most watched Week 1 game in the history of college football. This is why I was such a proponent of the playoff, is that you're going to get teams that say, I mean, by the way, both these teams will probably be in the playoff. Notre Dame and Miami, they'll both be in the playoff. Lsu, Clemson. So it was an unbelievable week. Wait until you see the number the rating this puppy got. It is, I mean, I was blown away by it. And so it's the most watched week and you had to watch until the end because that Texas got that touchdown. There was just enough time to make it interesting. I do wonder what would have happened if Texas got the touchdown on the tush push. Does that change? Does Ryan Day get a little more aggressive in play calling? Once they stopped him there, I kind of felt like, you know, Ohio State kind of felt like, okay, we dodged the bullet there, we're good. But the wow I it is arguably, well, it's the best opening weekend in the history of college football. Notre Dame, Miami was incredible. Lsu, Clemson, great. I mean, the dud, tcu, even that one got me to mid third quarter, Belichick's debut. But wow. I'm just going to tell you, it got. It got like an NFL number.

[Guest Analyst]

What do you think this does for Arch Manning? Are we going to see him on TV every week now? Because a lot of this had to do with Arch Manning.

[Colin Cowherd]

No, I think Ohio State and Texas are two of the top four brands in the sport.

[Guest Analyst]

But I think the appetite to see this kid, what has he got? He's a Manning. You know, we've seen him before, but this is his show now. I think he's Much watched. Must watch tv, even with these three duds that he's got coming up.

[Colin Cowherd]

You know what? That's part of the process of being a star quarterback. When people, when people came out and said, I can't believe Caleb Williams getting crushed because he painted his fingernails if you're going to be the number one pick. And I remember when Baker Mayfield and I, Peter King said I was too tough on Baker Mayfield. He's going to be the number one pick in the draft. He's a quarterback. I'm going to be tough on him. And by the way, he always took it well. I mean, we went back and forth, but that's part of the process of being. If he's great, he is eligible to come out. He's been in the program. I mean, because he, he, he entered early to the program. He was an early enrollee. So he's already been there like three years. And he's a Manning, so I'm not worried about. And he's a smart kid. He can handle. I didn't love multiple ad campaigns. I did not love that at all.

[Guest Analyst]

But yeah, like 6 million in nil money. Oh, yeah.

[Colin Cowherd]

I just didn't love that. I, I always thought Brady did it right. I want to see production and trophies before I get a bunch of ads. I think you're just. But it's money and I, I get it.

[Guest Analyst]

Brady was a pro. I mean, Arch is a college kid making.

[Colin Cowherd]

Yeah, but he's a Manning. Kids are different.

[Joel Klatt]

Do you.

[Guest Analyst]

Do you think you're turning down $6 million if you're 21 years old?

[Colin Cowherd]

No, I just think. I just think the Mannings are different. They live in a different space.

[Guest Analyst]

Everything they touch money, maybe.

[Colin Cowherd]

Well, I mean, if you count Omaha Productions and Eli's got a business. Eli and Cooper's at Cooper has a business, which is a fascinating business about hotels in the south and on college campuses. That family all in is probably worth a billion dollars.

[Guest Analyst]

You know, when you're a young kid, you want to be your own man, right? You leave home, you go to college. I'm my own guy. I don't need my parents money. Like, come on.

[Colin Cowherd]

Well, you're also a man. Yeah, but I would say you're a man and it's different. You and I are like that. I think there are certain families in this country, like, I mean, I'm seriously about. You know, this is not analogous perfectly, but like the Rockefeller kids or there are certain east coast families where you're part of a little bit of a financial dynasty or or, you know, west coast families in entertainment.

[Guest Analyst]

Bronnie James, right? I heard a lot of stories. He goes to USC and he was making tons of money playing video games. He was like a gamer and he like, why are you playing video games till 2 in the morning? Because I want to make my own money. That's the stories. People say that he was saying he wants to make his own money. He doesn't want dad's money.

[Colin Cowherd]

Well, I can't.

[Guest Analyst]

I cannot knock arts for the money.

[Colin Cowherd]

I can knock him for his knocking him. I'm just saying it doesn't bother me that he's being criticized because that is. Texas quarterbacks are under the spotlight. It's, it's Notre Dame quarterbacks, it's Yankee shortstops. It's once you're with nil. Here's the downside to all the soft cookie dough soft sports writers that cover college football. Once you pay the players, they're professional, the criticism ramps up. I used to always be like, I'm not going to really harshly criticize a college quarterback until he's eligible for the draft. You're making five large as a sophomore at Texas. You're a pro.

[Guest Analyst]

Carson Beck was clear.

[Colin Cowherd]

Carson Beck is a pro athlete.

[Guest Analyst]

It was fair to rip him at Georgia. It's fair to praise him now.

[Colin Cowherd]

Has changed everything. You're getting paid 5 million. You're making more than everybody but the head coach on the staff. You can be criticized now. You want to take the money, I'm for it. But this idea that it's all the same now. No, basically Lane Kiffin had it right. Nil is free agency. That's what nil is. It's professional free agency.

[Guest Analyst]

Tennessee quarterback who left for ucla. That was free agency. That was in the spring. He just bolted Tennessee to ucla. Stinks up the joint. Hey, Nico.

[Colin Cowherd]

Come on, bro. All right. Live in la, it's the Herd. Be sure to catch live editions of the Herd. Weekdays at noon Eastern, 9am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, FS1 and the iHeartRadio app. You probably think of Michelin as a tire company. And I mean it is, but it's really an innovation company and that's why their tires are as good as they are. It started in the 1800s making brake pads for horse drawn carriages. Seriously. Later, Michelin basically invented the modern tire with the first steel belted design. That innovation has never slowed. In fact, it's only accelerated these days though, it's Michelin in motion vision. The company is expanding into healthcare, energy and even aerospace. Seriously. For instance, they're developing an airless wheel for lunar exploration. It's gotta deal with vast temperature swings, radiation and rough terrain on the moon and maybe one day on Mars. I mean, this is more than just some sort of vanity project. It showcases Michelin's broader shift from tire manufacturing to high tech durable mobility solutions. It's about the exact same thing that led to those horse drawn carriage brake pads well over a hundred years ago. It's about innovation. Learn more at michelinman.com y-michelinnovation Michelin Motion.

[Angela Rye]

For Life not all group chats are the same, just like not all Adams are the same. Adam Brody, for instance, uses WhatsApp to pin messages, send events and settle debates using polls with his friends all in one group chat.

[Colin Cowherd]

Makes our guys night easier.

[Angela Rye]

But Adam Scott group messages with an app that isn't WhatsApp. Which means he still can't find that text from his friends about where to meet.

[Joel Klatt]

Hang on, still scrolling. No, the address is here somewhere.

[Angela Rye]

It's time for WhatsApp message privately with.

[Colin Cowherd]

Everyone who cares about truth when the lie is more entertaining.

[Angela Rye]

Hey everybody, I'm Angela Wright, co host of Native Lampa with Tiffany Cross and Andrew Gillum. Through the lens of politics and culture, we talk with you every week to make sense of this madness. I've been telling Angela I don't even know how to fight back right now. So what I'm focused on is just looking out for ourselves.

[Joel Klatt]

That's the truth.

[Colin Cowherd]

We're having the same debates that American households are having all over the country.

[Angela Rye]

Rest is certainly a form of self care, but if you are watching your full neighbors starve, not be able to pay bills, your rest is selfish. But the thing is, Angela, this is not the mess we created. So I do understand black folks feeling like, you know what, y' all got it.

[Guest Analyst]

We're like family, but we disagree all the time.

[Colin Cowherd]

All the time.

[Guest Analyst]

And we love when our listeners chime in.

[Angela Rye]

What would happen if we built our own little Wakandan communities in the rural South.

[Colin Cowherd]

Tiffany, do not run to no rural South. I don't know what you're on.

[Angela Rye]

What our audience is asking is. Okay, fine. You want me to stop resting? What specifically are you asking me to do? Stay informed and take action.

[Colin Cowherd]

Listen to Nativeland Pod on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your box podcast.

[Joel Klatt]

Welcome home y'.

[Colin Cowherd]

All.

[Sarah Spain]

The US Open is here. And on my podcast, Good game with Sarah Spain. I'm breaking down the players from rising stars to legends chasing history. The predictions will we see a first time winner and the pressure. Billie Jean King says pressure is a privilege, you know, plus the stories and events off the court. And of course the honey deuces, the signature cocktail of the U.S. open. The U.S. open has gotten to be.

[Joel Klatt]

A very fancy, wonderfully experiential sporting event.

[Sarah Spain]

I mean, listen, the whole aim is to be accessible and inclusive for all tennis fans. Whether you play tennis or not. Tennis is full of compelling stories of late. Have you heard about icon Venus Williams, recent wildcard bids? Or the young Canadian Victoria Mboko making a name for herself? How about Naomi Osaka getting back to form? To hear this and more, listen to Good Game with Sarah Spain, an iHeart women's sports production in partnership with Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Angela Rye]

Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports.

[Colin Cowherd]

Wait until you see that number, that rating for Ohio State, Texas, American.

[Guest Analyst]

So is it older? Is it a larger number than my age? You know, I just, I can rent to car.

[Colin Cowherd]

That would be a Super Bowl. I'm kidding. I'm just saying I don't spend a ton of time worrying about that. But I, when you, I, I guessed the number and I was way off. I mean, just the pregame shows, big noon and game day combine massive numbers. So the audiences are just exploding everywhere. For college football, it's a buy. There are certain sports, like, I like the mls, but once they went to Apple, there's no casual viewers. They don't pop up on my feed like, that's not a buy anymore. I think college football is a buy. J. Mac with the news. No, no, turn on the news.

[Guest Analyst]

This is the Herd line news. Steelers, jets, week one. Justin Fields.

[Colin Cowherd]

Hey.

[Guest Analyst]

He hears the media talking about the revenge angle, but he says, hey, man, this is just another football game.

[Joel Klatt]

The storyline's crazy. I mean, that's, that's why the NFL set us up for week one, just for that. But I mean, yes, cool, cool, cool to, you know, kind of see that and, you know, it's going to be fun, you know, going up against these guys on Sunday. So I'm a big believer in everything happens for a reason. Like I said, I was in a spot last year where I was able to see the game from a different perspective. I learned a lot from, you know, Russ and just, just all the other vets there. So not at all.

[Colin Cowherd]

I kind of like the jets here. Put Sauce Gardner, put him on DK Metcalf, take him out of the game and put some pressure with that defensive front on the old Aaron Rodgers. Fields is. Remember, Fields went 4 and 2 with the Steelers. Yeah. If you extrapolate those numbers out, he would have been a borderline Pro bowl quarterback in the nfc, but he was in the AFC with the jets or.

[Guest Analyst]

Steamers, the crummy Jets. News is Avt Vera Tucker, the kid from usc, excellent offensive line, multiple positions, hurt a lot. Sounds like he might be out for the season with a torn pack. He's getting a second opinion. I don't want to speak any more of it. Let's move on. Let's go to the Lions. Colin, Ben Johnson, Johnson and Aaron Glenn depart Detroit. Everybody's worried. Jared Goff says, hey, man, we're gonna be fine. Ahead of the matchup against Micah Parsons and the Packers.

[Joel Klatt]

Vegas been wrong before, right? You know, who knows? We'll see. I. I think, yeah, they're a good team. They added a good player, and we're all zero and zero. It's confusing because I don't even know where. Where do we stand externally? I don't know what people, you know.

[Colin Cowherd]

And I don't really care.

[Joel Klatt]

But, like, are we supposed to be good? Are we supposed to be bad? Are we. So you know all these different storylines and so we don't. You can't ride that roller coaster. And we don't.

[Colin Cowherd]

Yeah, I, you know, the Green Bay packers, we're all still asking the same question, is Jordan Love really good? And I don't think anybody knows the answer. I don't. I think. I think he's tall, moves well with a whip for an arm, and I like the way he plays more far than Aaron Rodgers. He'll throw picks. He doesn't care. He's got a little Andrew Locking, a little far if he can be a little reckless, but he doesn't care. He just stands back there with a lot of confidence and lets it go. I like him, but at the end of last year, probably Hurt didn't play particularly well.

[Guest Analyst]

Yeah, I'm a little surprised. Packers are favored by more. I thought there'd be at least three here at home. One of my favorite games.

[Colin Cowherd]

I like Green Bay.

[Guest Analyst]

We'll be talking about that game.

[Colin Cowherd]

Green Bay is one of my favorite picks of the weekend on Friday. Final story.

[Guest Analyst]

Colin to college football. Now I want to save some time for this lsu. Clemson was crazy. So Clemson did well the first quarter and a half, and then LSU took over and Clemson was inept. So afterward, Dabo Sweeney and Brian Kelly traded barbs in the post game. Presser, you need to listen to this.

[Colin Cowherd]

Down the last play, right out of the gate. It's like getting the final exam day one of class. They made a 65.

[Guest Analyst]

We made a 58.

[Colin Cowherd]

Ne one of us were great.

[Joel Klatt]

I thought we dominated him in the second half. So he's either a really good grader for, you know, giving himself a 58, or he's a really hard grader on us. Or he didn't see the second half, which that might be the case. He might not have wanted to see the second half.

[Guest Analyst]

Wow, Brian Kelly talking tough.

[Colin Cowherd]

Well, I mean, I thought LSU was clearly the better team.

[Guest Analyst]

Oh, second half. Davos. We didn't get halftime. Adjustments are big in sports. Are you going to locker room? You make adjustments. And LSU dominated the second half. Nussmeier made every throw club.

[Colin Cowherd]

I think Brian Kelly is right. People may think that's, you know, kind of jerky, but I think he's right.

[Sarah Spain]

Well, there was some.

[Guest Analyst]

Is Brian Kelly on the hot seat? I know the buyout's expensive, but he was catching some heat in the preseason. Are they good? And they go into Clemson. That's a great.

[Colin Cowherd]

And totally control the second half. He's not not wrong. LSU was the better team. Garrett Nussmeier may have had the best weekend of every quarterback to go on the road.

[Guest Analyst]

Prospect.

[Colin Cowherd]

Yeah, I thought Garrett Nussmeier played that's. Again, I know he's experienced, but that's a tough environment you go in as an underdog. I mean, they were. I don't know what the line was. I think it was like Clemson was favored by more than a few.

[Guest Analyst]

Bruce Feldman coming on the show. He's all in on Clemson saying they're great. I didn't see it, Colin. I didn't see any greatness from Clemson.

[Colin Cowherd]

No. J Mac with the news. Well, that's the news.

[Guest Analyst]

And thanks for stopping by the Herd lie news.

[Colin Cowherd]

I'm gonna talk you into taking Harbaugh and the points.

[Guest Analyst]

Which one, Ravens or 49ers?

[Colin Cowherd]

I Baltimore's got a better roster than Buffalo.

[Guest Analyst]

I I Better ways to spend my money than I think.

[Colin Cowherd]

I like both Harbaughs this weekend. Our three next. Who cares about truth when the lies. More entertaining.

[Angela Rye]

Welcome home. I'm Angela Rye, co host of the Native Lampod with Andrew Gillum and Tiffany Cross, and we want y' all to survive and thrive in this political moment.

[Colin Cowherd]

We're having the same debates that American households are having all over the country.

[Angela Rye]

I am terrified that in our rest, we're going to miss the moment. You want me to stop resting? What specifically are you asking me to do? Stay informed and take. Take action.

[Colin Cowherd]

Listen to Native Land Pod on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Sarah Spain]

The U.S. open is here. And on my podcast, Good Game with Sarah Spain, I'm breaking down the players, the predictions, the pressure, and of course, the honey deuces, the signature cocktail of the U.S. open. The U.S. open has gotten to be.

[Joel Klatt]

A very wonderfully experiential sporting event.

[Sarah Spain]

To hear this and more, listen to Good Game with Sarah Spain and I Heart women's sport production in partnership with Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Brought to you by Novartis, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports Network.

[Joel Klatt]

Why are TSA rules so confusing?

[Colin Cowherd]

You got a hoodie on. Take it all.

[Joel Klatt]

I'm Manny.

[Colin Cowherd]

I'm Noah. This is Devin.

[Joel Klatt]

And we're best friends and journalists with a new podcast called no Such Thing, where we get to the bottom of questions like that. Why are you screaming at me? I can't expect what to do now. If the rule was the same, go off on me.

[Colin Cowherd]

I deserve it. You know, lock him up.

[Joel Klatt]

Listen to no Such thing on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Colin Cowherd]

No Such Thing. All right, West, West. Prop here from Hood Politics with Prop Podcast. You know, I get down. You come from the urban areas. You understand politics more than you giving credit for. Between Jerry out here mandering all over the place. Hop out, boys. Snatching up family members and two wars that was supposed to be done in 24 hours. Not to mention Epstein, we had to reach out to the homie Jamel Hill. Cause she gonna keep it a century.

[Angela Rye]

Cause in America, what sells in politics are narratives and storylines. It's like we treat politics like we treat sports, which is part of the reason why we're in the situation we're in right now.

[Colin Cowherd]

Listen to the Hood Politics with Prop podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

[Sarah Spain]

This is an iHeart podcast.