Dan Beyer (3:04)

I did, yeah. Very friendly fans. Chargers were rolling and your boy Quinton Johnson fumbles and the game totally flipped.

Colin Cowherd (3:11)

No, it was amazing. Some of these games this weekend. How about. I mean, we haven't talked about it. UCLA beating Penn State. That's the biggest win for ucla. The last time they won a game like that was Josh. Josh Rosen beating A and M. Remember that like 44, 41 shootout. That was a wild game.

Dan Beyer (3:28)

James Franklin, is he still employed by Penn State?

Colin Cowherd (3:30)

I know what's going on. I've defended him for a long time. Here we go. It's Colin, right? Colin wrong on a Monday. And here we go where Colin was right. I told you. The Eagles may not be solvable, folks. Saquon Barkley, he's not getting a yard before he's getting hit. I think Nick Ceriani is very coordinator dependent. It A.J. brown, Mr. Invisible. 43 total yards. Saquon had six carries all game. Not only does coaching matter, I've been preaching this. Coordinators matter. Look at the Niners with Robert Sala and a bunch of young guys and Fred Warner. This is not a players issue in Philly. It's a coordinator issue where Colin was raw. Well, the best football coach in the world is Jim Harbaugh. Stick with that. But boy, that didn't look like it yesterday. 10 penalties. That's after last week having 14 against the Giants. Listen, they don't have their offensive coordinators. Justin Herbert is in big trouble. But if Kansas City wins tonight, and I think they will, the Chiefs, the Broncos and the Chargers will all be knotted up at 3:2 in the AFC West. I know they're injury plagued, but they're. The Chargers look directionless as of now. Where Colin was right. I picked New England to make the playoffs. I said they would be the double the win total team. And they're three and two for and face the Saints, the Titans and the Browns coming up. Mike Frable is one of the smartest coaches in the league and I think, listen, the last four starts, Drake May's got six ties and one pick. So like a lot of young quarterbacks, he's got to clean some stuff up but this is what I thought they would be. The jets and the Dolphins were circling the drain without a real culture. I knew Vrabel would get it right very fast. I think he's even ahead of schedule. Where Colin was wrong. Raiders are 1 and 4 and I thought they would be a solid offensive team and I'm not a huge fan of Geno Smith but I didn't think they'd be 30th in scoring. Geno's been awful. The defense didn't have any sacks yesterday which is you know that's Raiders usually can pressure the quarterback. Geno Smith's comeback story it's not going to be Darnold or Baker or Daniel Jones. He's not that good. Second worst point differential in the NFL. I thought with Chip, Pete and Geno they would be a viable team capable of beating anybody in their division and I'm not sure if they're capable of winning over the next month. Where Colin was right. Miami blew a 17 nothing lead to Carolina. This goes back the hipster head coach. Zero toughness, zero culture and I think you lose games late when you don't know what you are. You can have talent. What are they And I said Mike Vrabel his schemes are toughness this team I never ever know quite what they are outside of really fast at wide receiver. So I mean think about this. They were out gained on the ground by Carolina 239 yards to 19. They are the opposite of the Patriots under variable where Colin was wrong Yeah I got a little over dramatic. I overreacted when I said the Lions new coordinators could be a hazmat spill. Yeah I was wrong. Jared Goff has he thrown an incompletion in in the last couple of weeks. He's complete like 75% of their throws. Listen upstairs they got too many good players. Best backfield, best offensive line. They've won the last four games like a college team by 16 points. Johnny Martin is calling a smart game and it goes back to something that you have to believe in. Dan Campbell created the culture and this general manager in this front office. They do not miss on a lot of draft picks. They may go on the trade deadline and get a corner. Keep your eyes on the Detroit Lions getting some secondary help at the trade deadline. Rams and Lions keep your eye on that. Where Colin was right. I said the Yankees are a good team but they're not great because they're so uneven. They have been blown out twice by Toronto. They have an average bullpen they strike out way too much. They're completely home run dependent. And Aaron Judge and John Carlos Stanton are great players but in the postseason you don't get as many bad pitches. They don't play small ball. The Dodgers have a stack roster but can play small ball and grind out at bats. This is a good team, but everybody bangs on Aaron Boone. This is an uneven roster. They've surrendered 23 runs in two games. What is a manager supposed to do? The Yankees are a good team, but they're too uneven to be great. Where Colin was raw well, my Penn State, Texas meet for the national championship. Prediction. I'm going to go with not going to happen. UCLA played a nearly flawless first three quarters and Drew Aller and Arch Manning that were very high profile quarterbacks. Arch is really struggling and Drew Aller, not a lot of juice. Nico Iamaliava, let's give him credit. We were all beaten up on that kid. UCLA's coaches, Jerry Neuheisel leaned into his athletic ability. So the Texas offense and the Penn State defense we thought could be great or a mess. Where Colin was right, where Colin was wrong on a Monday. Well, our buddy Matt Hasselbeck, how about that, the halftime speech up in Seattle, he's still up in the Pacific Northwest. So the Seahawks invited their 50 greatest players ever. Matt had no idea it would be the greatest NFL game maybe in two years. Brady and Manning met 17 times. They never combined for 35 points each. I watched that game yesterday. I was saying this, Matt, first impressions are unfair. If you took out Sam in New York and Baker in Cleveland and you just watched them for the first time, you would think you are watching top five quarterbacks in the league. I was. I got to tell you right now I'm not sure if Baker's not the mvp. What was your impersonate your impression having quarterbacked in this league for a long time of what you watched yesterday live?

Matt Hasselbeck (9:52)

Well, I think those experiences that both of those quarterbacks had early in their careers have hardened them and given them the grit and the determination and that like I don't give a rip factor that they have in these games. Big throws downfield, hostile environment, two minute drives, you know, all that kind of stuff. I think Baker, his grit, this team has taken on his personality and to do it without Mike Evans, without your starting running back leaning on a rookie wide receiver the way he did, incredibly impressive. But I don't think Baker Mayfield would be who he is today had he not gone through the valleys and the disappointments that he went through early in his career.

Colin Cowherd (10:30)

Yeah. You know, there's a difference between playing with a chip on your shoulder and it disrupts your play. You're reckless. And then playing with a chip on your shoulder under control, and you get paid, you got some money, you're happily married, you have good teammates. You can still have that chip on your shoulder. It's like Michael Jordan always had the chip, but he didn't have to score 60. He could pass to Steve Kerr, but he still had a chip. And I. Sam's interesting because Sam had a reckless and accuracy issue. I never. I didn't know if you could clean that up. I mean, I watched Sam Darnold, and I see somebody who's coachable and has put the time in. Did you ever think. I mean, Baker always threw a good ball. Did you ever think Darnold would be this accurate, this consistently as a player?

Matt Hasselbeck (11:15)

That was never my. My concern with Sam Darnold. My concern with Sam Darnold coming out of college is his eyes were never really in the right place. But that's a young player. I mean, he was very young. He was one of the youngest guys in his class. I think when he came. When he was in the league for like two or three years, he was younger than some of the quarterbacks coming out in the draft after him.

Colin Cowherd (11:33)

Yeah.

Matt Hasselbeck (11:34)

And so, like, those are fixable things. I think the athleticism has always been there. That's not the. That's not the factor. It's these other things. You know, whether it's focus. Like, you talk about that intensity with Baker. Baker has this great ability of, like, almost getting into it with a D lineman, like, in their face, their jaw, and. And then like the 42nd clock starts, and then by second 25 on the clock, he flips the switch and he's like a golfer approaching his next sand wedge shot. He's got this great focus right after, you know, John and competing and all that kind of stuff. And that's sometimes hard, a hard thing to balance. And I think, you know, a guy like Sam Darnold, he's good, so talented, having an incredible year, but just having that ability to maybe, like, slow things down in the biggest moments, that's where he'll take his game to the very, very next level.

Colin Cowherd (12:24)

So I watched Philadelphia, and my take is you can watch Robert Sala, what he has done to the Niners defense with Fred Warner. They lose Bosa, they lose Hufanga, they lose Greenlaw. Defense is great. And you're like, wow, how Robert Sala is that not only do coaches matter, coordinators matter. And I think Sirianni has always been coordinator dependent. That's not a criticism, it's a reality. Most guys, most head coaches aren't Shanahan with schemes. They're not. And I watched Philadelphia. What really bothered me, 45 yards rushing. I mean, they only had a handful of carries in the second half. I'll ask you, what is Philadelphia's offensive identity today? I have. No, that's.

Matt Hasselbeck (13:04)

Yeah, that's the thing. They know what it is, and they got to stick to it. They got to stay off Twitter, stay off talk radio. You know, those kinds of things. I think saquon had, like, six carries. I think as a team, they maybe had 11. And really, like Sean Payton and the Broncos deserve a lot of credit here also. But I just think that Philly needs to just be proud of who they are. Like, I think, you know, sometimes you're trying to feed disgruntled players just a little bit. You're trying to keep everybody happy. Listen, when you have success and you win, there's enough credit to go around. There's enough football to go around. I think Saquon, I appreciate how they're getting involved in the passing game, but you're giving the defense too much credit if you just say, oh, they're gonna quote, unquote, stack the box against Saquon. Make them prove that they can stop the run. That would be my advice to Philly. Make every team you play prove that they are as physical as they are lining up to be with guys in the box. And they're talented. Listen, they're talented in the passing game. I just don't think you need to force it. If you're a great receiver and you're a great tight end, the ball will find you. Just stick to who you are, Philly. You're the best team in football last year for a reason. Don't forget it. And don't buy into the hype on the outside noise.

Colin Cowherd (14:11)

There are moments in any young quarterback's life, in any young team's life, that you could look back on your career, Matt, and go, okay. I remember we were playing the Lions. We trailed in the fourth. I came back and won it. I looked at that win for Drake May. He may not even remember it in 10 years, but I didn't think it would happen this quick. I thought they'd make the playoffs, and I thought he'd be good. But you watch the Pittsburgh game and you're like, he's not there yet. The offense is not There, I thought that win was not about Buffalo. Buffalo fumble the ball. I thought it was about Drake May and Mike Vrabel. Like, okay, this is plan A flag. Buffalo doesn't lose at home. I. I wonder if they're ahead of their schedule. What was your thoughts?

Matt Hasselbeck (14:55)

Yeah, they're ahead of their schedule. I think an X factor for me, though, was Stefan Diggs. Stefan Diggs has come in the new. You know, the New England media have been tough on him. Like, where are his targets? Where's his yards? He doesn't show up. He's getting outplayed by other receivers. They came in there, and I felt like there was an intensity to Stefon Diggs, Josh McDaniels trying to give him the ball. Drake May was trying to get him the ball on time or scrambling. It was almost like, we're doing this for Diggsy kind of a deal.

Colin Cowherd (15:21)

Yeah.

Matt Hasselbeck (15:21)

And, like, there's something really special when you do that for a teammate that you respect, and especially when the media has been beaten up on him. And so, like, I just thought, listen, for the Patriots, no other team in the NFL feels this way, but I feel like for the Patriots, they're like, man, could we play Buffalo all the time? Because, like, that's the intensity they need from the passing game. That's. That really is. And they drafted Jake Drake May for a reason. They wanted their own version of Josh Allen, and, like, that doesn't really exist, but they saw something with the third pick overall in that draft, and they said, you know what? We think that this guy could be that. You know, they. They tried the Mac Jones thing, and they were like, yeah, you're good, but you're not Josh Allen. We're looking for Josh Allen, and we'll take the risk for the upside. And I think Drake May has everybody in New England fired up.

Colin Cowherd (16:06)

Yeah. So I had real questions about Brian Schottenheimer. But it's interesting. When Zeke left, Zach Martin left, Tyron Smith left, DEZ Bryant left, Amari Cooper left. There's always been this thing like, oh, boy. And yet Dak doesn't have any of them right now. Doesn't have Micah, doesn't even have CD Lamb. And I know it's the Jets. I. It's the best I've ever seen him play. And I wonder. I said this earlier. It's almost like the Darnold Baker Dak thing, that you get 10,000 hours and you've got your money and you're securing yourself and the game slows down. But, I mean, I I've never seen Dak play like this. I think he's carrying an average roster. I mean, they don't have a number one receiver. I'm not sure they have a two. I don't think they have a dominant running back. I think the O line is missing starters. I, I. Have you ever seen Dak this good? Explain it to me.

Matt Hasselbeck (17:05)

Well, I, I don't want to overreact. I mean, he had, you know, two goal line touchdown passes inside the five also, and it was the Jets. And when your defense is as bad as theirs is, sometimes you, you know, your passing numbers feel a little bit better. However, this is absolutely the best that I've seen Dak Prescott look the best I've seen him play. And I think for me, I think this is the most I've seen him as a leader on the team. Like literally up and down the sideline the whole game. The confidence, the in lockstep with the play caller. Like, this is exactly what the Cowboys have been paying for. He is going to be the guy that is going to have to put the team on his back later in the season when the schedule gets tougher, when the games mean more. So I am excited about that, the MVP chance and all that kind of stuff. I think we're getting way, way, way ahead of ourselves. But from, from the first season this year, I thought Dak looked different physically. And I think it's showing up in how he plays.

Colin Cowherd (18:04)

I want to end with this because it's a weird trend. I have this theory. Matt, are you ready for my theory on this? Here's my theory. Between Tik Tok and Instagram, everything's performative. I mean, you can't even go to dinner. People at restaurants are taking pictures of food. You can't go to a nice vacation. It's a thousand pictures. And there's this need to be cool, right? Like, especially for people in their 20s. And I think it's bleeding into sports where this constant need to be performative. And we had another running back. This is the third player to do this. The second in two weeks dropped the ball at the goal line. And my take is he knows where the goal line is. This is a young player who's finally getting to play. It's performative. This is what is happening in society. You can't go to a restaurant. People are taking pictures of food. How do they look? I mean, this ad, Mitchell, the kid for the jets, that's my takeaway because I don't even know what I would say. I said Earlier. Football is so hard, even at practice, it's so disrespectful to your teammates. To get a 70 yard run as a bad team in the NFL is unheard of. What would you say and what do you make of this weird trend?

Matt Hasselbeck (19:14)

It is weird, but listen, I don't think fundamentals get coached nearly as much as they did 30, 40, 50 years ago. Like, we just don't do it. You know, you just kind of. It's so about. And X's and O's. We don't coach fundamentals. You know, when I got to. When I got into the NFL, one of the things I noticed is that, you know, that staff was coming from the 49ers with Jerry Rice and those guys. And the rule there was you had to finish until the camera was off of you. So it was. It wasn't even just play through the whistle. You had to finish until the camera was off of you. That. That's not what it was like at the end of my career. Not at all. However, at the end of my career, at least at the end of my career. In Seattle, Pete Carroll was the head coach. He was great. He said, hey, guys, I want you to practice your end zone celebrations and tell a friend, okay? And make sure that the friend approves that it's like a cool enough end zone celebration. But also what he was doing is he was. He was sort of putting it through a filter of make sure it's legal. We don't want a 15 yard penalty because you punt the ball into the stands or you dunk it on the goalpost. And all of a sudden, oh, I didn't know that was a penalty. And so, like, it was creative by Pete Carroll to kind of like coach these little, I don't know, like, details of fundamentals and the rules without being like, hey, finish through the goal line. I mean, I saw Charles Woodson do a thing on the Fox pregame show where he was like, finish through the goal line. It's not like we're not saying it, you're not hearing it. I just think with this generation, like you're saying, you got to get more creative, much like Pete Carroll did. I thought he did a great job with it.

Colin Cowherd (20:36)

How was the halftime speech in front of 70,000 people? Were you a little bit nervous? A little.

Matt Hasselbeck (20:41)

I don't know if I was nervous, but I had a plan in my head. I was going to invite all the top 50 players up onto the stage with me, kind of like Mike Ruzzioni style, and lead them in A chant. And I'm getting the rap. And I'm getting the rap. One set of stairs. And some of the guys like Earl Thomas and Marshawn Lynch, Cam Chancellor, they got no problem with stairs. Some of the older guys that played with Chuck Knox, I wasn't sure their knees could do the stairs or no stairs. It was a blast, though. That's a great. It's a great stadium, a great fan base. My opinion, the best. We just need the Seahawks to start playing better at home. I can't explain that part. That needs to get fixed.

Colin Cowherd (21:14)

Yeah, well, they're losing a good team, San Francisco and Tampa. That was an old timer. It's great seeing you and happy for you. Thanks, man.

Matt Hasselbeck (21:22)

Look at the kid.

Colin Cowherd (21:23)

Oh.

Dan Beyer (21:25)

No.

Colin Cowherd (21:25)

You didn't have a ton of hair then either.

Matt Hasselbeck (21:27)

No, I didn't. I was back. I was getting carded back then in Seattle. Oh, well, thanks for having me. I'll see you.

Dan Beyer (21:33)

All right.

Colin Cowherd (21:33)

Matt Hasselbeck. God, that was a good football game. That was just an insane football game. J. Mac, he was at a game. I sat home on the couch and it was not a good slate yesterday. Well, when you play two Monday night games and then you have the Rams Niners playing on Thursday, those if you would have had the Rams Niners playing in a late game with the Bucks in Seattle and then into New England Buffalo, it would have been great. But the more games you take away from Sunday, you get a pretty bleak. I mean, the Bears didn't play and they've become a fascinating team. Come on.

Dan Beyer (22:04)

Well, I'm a man of the people. What can I say? I like to go out to games, be among, you know, the masses. Yes. Now I will say no. Lamar, yesterday, Josh Allen played at night and Patrick Mahomes is tonight. Yeah, those are pretty much the three core guys. Burrows obviously hurt when you take away the four best quarterbacks.

Colin Cowherd (22:19)

I'll tell you this though, J. Mack, it's pretty clear. Let's be fair. Drake, make him play.

Dan Beyer (22:24)

Drake make a play. Also, Justin Herbert does not have any protection.

Colin Cowherd (22:27)

No, no, I'm just talking young guys. All I care about young quarterback Jaden Daniels. You saw yesterday, he's back, he's good. Bo Nix can play. So we have three hits from that class. We're waiting on Caleb, who's clearly gotten better with a legit coach and Penix has been hot and cold. But you and I like football when quarterback plays good. So that's my take is root for Baker Mayfield and Sam to be reborn. Root for Bo Nix and Drake I.

Dan Beyer (22:55)

Mean, Daniel Jones is maybe the best story in the league right now.

Colin Cowherd (22:57)

Honestly, you know, you don't want to watch the Jets. I mean, so I root people think, oh, you don't like Baker? I would vote him MVP today.

Dan Beyer (23:04)

To be clear, Justin Fields has not been awful. He's, I think seven touchdowns, zero picks, a little.

Colin Cowherd (23:08)

Little stat padding.

Dan Beyer (23:09)

Fine. It's the fumbles, the miss. They lead the league in missed tackles. Like, things are just. Yeah.

Colin Cowherd (23:16)

Not good.

Matt Hasselbeck (23:16)

Yeah.

Colin Cowherd (23:17)

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Colin Cowherd (27:58)

Yeah. Oh, we're back.

Dan Beyer (28:04)

Asleep at the wheel.

Colin Cowherd (28:06)

No, I'm just looking at the. Yesterday in the Giants game. I wondered if it had ever happened. Yesterday in the New York Giants game, the Giants had a turnover on five straight possessions.

Dan Beyer (28:22)

Never happened before against that mighty Saints defense.

Colin Cowherd (28:26)

Yankees, Giants, jets, and then the Bills lose.

Dan Beyer (28:30)

Dumpster fire. By the way, Brandon Staley is the defensive coordinator for the Saints. He's done something. They've been competitive, right? We called this on Friday.

Colin Cowherd (28:39)

No, you called it. I wouldn't touch that thing with a ten foot pole. J. Mac, read the news. No, no, no.

Snax (28:46)

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Colin Cowherd (28:47)

This is the Herd line news.

Dan Beyer (28:50)

All right, we're starting positive this hour. And that's the Detroit Lions, who are cooking right now. Remember, they lost to the packers in the opener. They've been dominant ever since. And the duo, the dynamic duo of David Montgomery and Jameer Gibbs, these guys are good, man. Montgomery scored, Gibbs scored, Montgomery threw one. This is the 14th game both of them have scored a touchdown.

Colin Cowherd (29:09)

When was the. When's the last time we had a running back duo this good?

Dan Beyer (29:12)

I'm surprised, like, Saquon is a one man show. A lot of these teams are one man shows. Get a second running back. This is smart football. Neither of them wear down anyways. There's the first time that anybody has done this since Emmett and Daryl Johnston with the Cowboys. That's how dominant Montgomery and Gibbs have been.

Colin Cowherd (29:28)

Colin Lyons, it's like these teams, they go and get a running back and then they wear him out.

Dan Beyer (29:33)

Yeah.

Colin Cowherd (29:34)

And the truth is, I mean, I said this about the Niners before, like, they should be drafting running backs. You want to get McCaffrey about 13 to 14 touches.

Dan Beyer (29:43)

He's like 25 now.

Colin Cowherd (29:44)

Yeah, you just can't do it. I mean, we know his career and by the way, you can use him as a decoy. I mean, again, I'm. I am for McCaffrey touching him, but I want him touching it in the red zone. I want him touching it on third and fourth down. There's no need for second down carries for Christian McCaffrey. So I just think Detroit, they're just so smart. This should be the trend to me is that you have two running backs. I think the Rams wanted it, but Blake Corum hasn't hit. They had Kyron Williams and he's a smaller back, and they thought, okay, we'll have another back. And Corum just hasn't worked.

Dan Beyer (30:16)

Saquon needs a wingman. I'm telling you man, he does not look like the same guy. I'll say this Montgomery, I, I, I'm fairly certain this is like his third team. Remember he, he was like a touchdown guy elsewhere like you. Gibbs by the way has been spectacular.

Colin Cowherd (30:30)

Another team is Buffalo. James Cook is great. Let's get James Cook about six to seven fewer touches a game. Chargers tried it with Najee Harris and Hampton. Now they're both hurt. Yeah, but I, I think a trend in the NFL is everybody bangs on running backs. It's the last position in football. You can tackle from any angle in any spot on the field. They're unprotected so they come flying through that line safety's linebackers can go at their knees, can go with their shoulders, their heads. And my take is dual running backs should be the trend going forward.

Dan Beyer (31:01)

Jets wanted this with Breece hall and Braylon Allen and Alan's hurt again. Hall is a fumble machine by the way. Lions, Chiefs next week.

Colin Cowherd (31:08)

What?

Dan Beyer (31:08)

Sunday night.

Colin Cowherd (31:09)

Let me get, let me guess.

Dan Beyer (31:10)

Well, there's no line yet because Chiefs play tonight.

Colin Cowherd (31:11)

Where's, where's it at?

Dan Beyer (31:13)

At Kansas City.

Colin Cowherd (31:14)

I think I'd take Detroit.

Dan Beyer (31:16)

Oh, spicy.

Colin Cowherd (31:17)

Well, you're giving, you're giving me a dominant run game against no run game so I can keep my homes off the field.

Dan Beyer (31:23)

Yeah. And Mahomes on a short week because they play tonight.

Colin Cowherd (31:25)

Yeah, I like Detroit there. I bet you the line is probably it's gonna be Lions minus two and a half.

Dan Beyer (31:31)

I doubt the Chiefs are gonna be that big of a dog at home.

Colin Cowherd (31:33)

All right. I think I like the Lions match up well with them.

Dan Beyer (31:37)

Lions win that and I think they've got to be a top three team in the league.

Colin Cowherd (31:39)

Right? Right.

Dan Beyer (31:39)

I think there are some bad teams, Colin.

Matt Hasselbeck (31:41)

Let's, let's.

Colin Cowherd (31:42)

I'm not I. You and I agree there are bad, truly bad teams in this league. Yeah. There are no great teams. There are great. The Detroit Lions offense is great. I mean play calling O line, running back room tight ends, Omar on St. Brown. The Chiefs defense has it. The Rams defense, they have their moments. They look great. But there are no great teams.

Dan Beyer (32:04)

Consistency is tough. Let's move on to. Oh, Jackson dart. I was told last week he's something. They've got something. Colin. I mean look at this highlight. He's just running.

Colin Cowherd (32:13)

Oops.

Dan Beyer (32:14)

I mean like you could play the yakety sax music. The John. He's just, he was not good. I tried to Tell you guys about this now. I'll give Dark credit afterward. He totally owned his garbage performance. Here he is.

Matt Hasselbeck (32:26)

I told as many guys as I can in the locker room, this one's on me and I'm gonna get better. And you know, I expect myself to play better in these games and to win them. I'm the leader of the offense. So I think that, you know, anytime that those things happen, you know, it kind of falls back on, you know, the leaders and I take that responsibility.

Colin Cowherd (32:48)

He owns it. He was bad and he owns it. I respect that.

Dan Beyer (32:50)

Where'd he get those glasses? George Sanza.

Colin Cowherd (32:53)

Come on. He's a good looking kid.

Dan Beyer (32:54)

He's a handsome guy. He's got, you know, he's copying my hairstyle. He's got the open shirt, the necklace.

Colin Cowherd (32:59)

There's nothing wrong.

Dan Beyer (33:00)

A little bit too much. I want my guys buttoned up. I like me Jalen hurts with a briefcase.

Colin Cowherd (33:05)

You like the gap?

Dan Beyer (33:08)

Just kidding around. Jackson Dart seems like a cool guy. Seems like he's got the locker room, people like him.

Colin Cowherd (33:12)

The media like owned his stuff. I have no problem with it. I like young guys that own their stuff.

Dan Beyer (33:17)

As a heads up, rookie quarterback Thursday night football, I saw that against the Eagles.

Colin Cowherd (33:22)

A brutal spot.

Dan Beyer (33:23)

And Philly's not gonna be happy with that loss.

Colin Cowherd (33:26)

That's a rough spot. What's the line on that? A billion, I think minus eight.

Dan Beyer (33:31)

At least A touchdown. I Eagles smash spot. Final story. Colin, we gotta give your boy Sean Payton some props. Sean Payton passed Bill Parcells for 16th on the all time wins list with 173. He's now tied with John Harbaugh. John Harbaugh for third most among active coaches.

Colin Cowherd (33:48)

Check that fourth quarter. Coaching Denver. I'm telling you right now, Denver's got the most underrated roster in the league. You know, everybody got Peyton got rid of everybody. But you know who he didn't get rid of? Have the general manager. This is a good roster they have drafted. Well, Harvey can play, Mims can play. Yeah, they've gone out.

Dan Beyer (34:07)

Sutton, big spot. He looked big. He looked like a big.

Colin Cowherd (34:10)

He dropped. Well, Sutton had a first half drop. I, I gotta move Denver up. I think Denver's for real. Second half of that game, there's no question. Second half of that game, who the better coach, better quarterback, better team was Denver was absolutely the better team.

Dan Beyer (34:25)

Saying Sean Payton's a better coach than Denver.

Colin Cowherd (34:27)

Nick Sirianni, I think Peyton's great. Peyton rubs some people the wrong way. But when you watch that game again, Bo Nicks has 22 stars. You're watching that game, man, they are impossible to predict. That motion sets different people. They are hard. I mean, and they're smart. They roll the pocket out with Bo Nix all the time. They. I don't think people quite understand this. Bo Nix is one of the better athletes at quarterback in the league. Duke can move, like, fast.

Dan Beyer (34:56)

You've been on this. So you like the Broncos. Bo, Nick's rookie quarterback contract. You like the Colts right now. Daniel Jones, Not a max deal. New England like New England rookie. Also Sam Darnold, Baker Mayfield. They're not making 50, 60 million a year.

Colin Cowherd (35:10)

That's right. That's how you look at the best rosters in the NFL right now.

Dan Beyer (35:14)

They're all the best teams.

Colin Cowherd (35:15)

Denver, I think, the Colts roster. If you look at Seattle's roster, Tampa. Why? Because you're not paying the quarterback 60 large. Yeah. I mean, and. And Buffalo, we've been saying this now for multiple weeks. That defense for Buffalo in the back.

Dan Beyer (35:29)

End, they got a lot of holes.

Colin Cowherd (35:30)

A lot of holes, Josh. A fortune.

Dan Beyer (35:33)

Let's put on the screen most wins among active coaches. Andy Reid by far is number one, followed by Tomlin Harbaugh and company. Now we. We can't get it on the screen. Technical difficulties.

Colin Cowherd (35:43)

Yeah.

Matt Hasselbeck (35:43)

No.

Colin Cowherd (35:43)

Who cares? Yeah, but you're right. They're. They're all. They're all. And they're all different styles.

Dan Beyer (35:47)

Yeah. I mean, Andy Reid's been around for a while.

Colin Cowherd (35:50)

Yeah. J. Mac with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by the herd lie news. The. I. I just. I can't get over. I. I really am struggling how to figure out why players are dropping the ball.

Dan Beyer (36:07)

No.

Colin Cowherd (36:08)

Gosh. And the only thing I can come up with is we just live in a more performative society where young people are constantly on camera. I mean, there are people, like not one or two. There's dozens of young people who have, like, taken a picture of themselves on a cliff and died.

Dan Beyer (36:25)

Yeah, yeah.

Colin Cowherd (36:26)

Like. Like that. That's not like one or two. Like, it happens regularly.

Dan Beyer (36:31)

Here's the worst part, Colin. After the happened to A.D. mitchell and the Colts, don't you think every team in the league the coach went to, the team was like, guys, don't freaking do this. Isn't that normal coaching? Like, hey, everybody saw the Colts blew their game because of that. I don't want to see any of that crap. It seems like that's a logical move by the coach. How did Gannon not do that?

Colin Cowherd (36:51)

It's just remarkable. You have to be so selfish to me that you know how hard you and the brotherhood practice every day. Like, I mean, football is one of those sports where you practice a ton and you don't play very much. You know, in baseball there's a game every night, hockey and NBA, 82 games. In football, you have seven times the practices for the games now. So when you get to the games, bro, we're just asking you for 50 offensive. Play a game, plays a game, be an adult, be a grown up, be a teammate, be a decent person.

Dan Beyer (37:23)

D. Mercado, third string running back, right?

Colin Cowherd (37:25)

Benson finally gets a chance to play.

Dan Beyer (37:26)

And Mitchell's like, I think a third string receiver. It was only playing because Pierce was out. So we're not talking about start. You're not seeing CD Lamb do this crap right? You're not seeing Justin Jefferson.

Colin Cowherd (37:36)

But you would think the backup players, knowing this is a rare opportunity due to injury to play, would be more aware of, man, I got to be coachable. I got to be a great teammate because I'm not as talented as CD Lamb. I'm not as talented as James Connor. So I'm going to be the best teammate I can be. It's one thing if a star does something, you're like, well, he does deliver 13 touchdowns a year and 19 yards of catch, by the way. Harrison had another big moment. Marvin Harris.

Dan Beyer (38:05)

Oh, that catch. Yeah, that was nice.

Colin Cowherd (38:06)

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Colin Cowherd (41:18)

Kicking off this month I'll be bringing you all my greatest fear inducing horror games from Resident Evil Evil to Solid Hill.

Snax (41:24)

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Colin Cowherd (41:26)

Left 4 Dead 2 and we just gonna be going over some of the greats.

Snax (41:29)

Also in October we'll be talking about our favorite horror and Halloween movies and figuring out why black people always gotta die first.

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Dan Beyer (42:12)

Sunday on Fox Dak and the Cowboys take on the Panthers or Matthew Stafford and the Rams battle the Ravens or other regional athletes.

Colin Cowherd (42:22)

Action Seahawks Jags is good.

Dan Beyer (42:23)

Check local listings for the game in your area. Sunday on Fox.

Colin Cowherd (42:27)

You were five and one. I was three and two Jags tonight. Money line I would I it's not to me at three. I would take Kansas City at three and a half, but I don't trust the Jags in a big spot.

Dan Beyer (42:38)

You can't just go into Jacksonville and try to get a W. It's not that easy anymore.

Colin Cowherd (42:42)

Colin Scary. So my number one rule with new head coaches, college or pro, I don't expect you to win immediately, but I'm going to watch your side of the ball. That's why I've always said about Lincoln Riley. USC's offense has been good. So don't don't blame that Brandon Staley. The defense, he's a defensive guy. The defense got bad with the Chargers. So Aaron Glenn's a defensive guy. A secondary guy goes to the Jets. The secondary sauce Gardner is worse than it was last year. Year. They are the second worst tackling team in the league. He's a defensive coach. Yes. They don't have a single takeaway all season. First time in NFL history a team's gone five weeks with no takeaways. How is that possible? What did they play Brady five times? How is that possible? No takeaways, can't tackle, no pressures. 30th in pressures they do nothing well. So his side of the ball is atrocious. Actually, Justin Field stats are pretty good, but they're dropping him in five and seven step drops way too much. Justin Field should play like Bo Nixon. Denver like move. They move Bo Nix because Bo Nix is not 6 5. They move him out of the pocket a lot. They create passing lanes. Justin Field should be moving around. He's not a drop back behind a bad pass pro line quarterback. It's like figure it out. This is the easy stuff in this League week roll Justin fields out 30, 35% of the time. Denver is moving Bo Nicks constantly. Philadelphia, when they're really well coached, moves. Jalen hurts out of the pocket. So I don't think, I mean I owe five and bad. And my concern is he can't get his side of the ball right. I mean, I'll defend guys forever, but you got to get your side right. Like Belichick in Carolina. The defense is worse than the offense. Aaron Glenn, is he fireable? I mean, I, I don't know what to do, but here he is after.

Snax (44:51)

When you get in, in games like.

Colin Cowherd (44:53)

This, when something bad happens, like the response isn't, you know, where we need to be. And again, I got to look at.

Snax (44:59)

Myself on that and I got to.

Colin Cowherd (45:00)

Do something to fix that. And we're all in this together. But I do know this man. It all starts with me. I do know that. So.

Snax (45:09)

We got to fix it.

Colin Cowherd (45:11)

We got to fix it. The other thing is I talk about a lot to judge a coach a in the rebuild, what does your side of the ball look like? Awful. Secondly, what happened to the place you left the Lions? Defense is better. It's better. So there is an infrastructure. If you go look right now at the New York jets, look at how many people are flourishing that used to be Jets. Sam Darnold and Todd Bowles met yesterday in the Pacific Northwest. Former Jets. So I mean Adam Gase was bad period. Todd Bowles was good in a bad organization. So I mean like Robert Sala is flourishing in San Francisco. Sam Darnold's flourishing, Todd Bowles is flourishing. Devonte Adams is getting old open. So a lot of this is, I mean, I think Sauce Gardner is a better player than he's playing right now for the Jets. Now I, I, I think he's a guy that needs liberal officiating because he is a grabby player. He's not a burner. He's not Deion Sanders. He's a grabby guy. He's long and grabby. Doesn't want to defend the run there. But, but he's gotten worse. So I, I, I think you're looking at and again, I don't know what you do. The jets have a tendency to hire instead of spending big money. The Chargers for years couldn't get coach right. When did they, they went and bought in Jim Harbaugh. The, the, the jets often get like Sal has never been a head coach and Adam Gates has never been a head coach and Aaron Glenn's never been a head coach. They don't want. They don't want the ego. They don't want the successful coach. Folks, if you can hire, think about the new coaches that are working. Let's think about the new coaches that are working. Harbaugh, Vrabel and Sean Payton. Andy Reid worked by and large. Find a guy that's in his coaching prime, that means he's not in his 60s. Try to find somebody in their usually 40s to 58 in their coaching prime with a lot of energy that has been successful in previous stops. Like Vrabel was. The. Some of these predictions are easy. Vrabel was going to work in New England. Okay. Harbaugh was going to work and he has with the Chargers. Sean Payton was going to work in Denver. You know, New York's a big market, so it's hard because you don't. I mean, it's. It's a loud market. It's a reactionary market. And you're giving a guy who's never been a head coach, like, what do you think it's going to look like?

Dan Beyer (47:30)

So. So, Colin, I don't want to go overboard and say, fire Aaron Glenn. We're not there yet. It's five games. But you're spot on. With the defense trending badly. Let me ask you, if they keep at the bottom of the standings and they're going to have the number one pick, all of a sudden you've got these good quarterbacks. Dante Moore, Carson Beck.

Colin Cowherd (47:47)

I would draft Dante Moore tomorrow, but does.

Dan Beyer (47:50)

Does Dante Moore say, I don't want.

Colin Cowherd (47:51)

To go to the. No, that's a great point. Let's talk about Dante Moore. So of all the players in college football, it's a little early to do mock drafts. The most important position in football is quarterback. Dante Moore at Oregon looks like a home run guy. I am dead serious. Dante Moore is my kid. I'm like, go back to school. Hold on. So do not go to the New York Jets.

Dan Beyer (48:11)

So that's where this whole Harbaugh rainbow stuff comes into play.

Colin Cowherd (48:14)

Play.

Dan Beyer (48:14)

I'm just spitballing names here in the last hour with some jets friends. I'm going to say one name that came up to me. Offensive mind, good history. But, you know, not everybody's going to like the name. What do you think if the jets can they get the number one pick? Is Mike McCarthy the kind of guy he went to Dallas with Dak. They were an 11 win.

Colin Cowherd (48:32)

No, he dealt with Jerry Jones. He can deal with high maintenance.

Dan Beyer (48:34)

He won it with Aaron Rogers in Green Bay.

Colin Cowherd (48:36)

I would take Mike McCarthy over a guy who's never been a head coach in a heartbeat.

Dan Beyer (48:40)

Right now, he's not vra, and he's not hard.

Colin Cowherd (48:42)

You know what he did? Packers, Cowboys. He's done high pressure, high. Iconic franchise coaches on the market.

Dan Beyer (48:48)

Nobody yet. Let's see. I mean, Mike McDaniel gets run out. I'm not. I'm not running over men, women, and children to get Mike McCarthy. You know, Mike McDaniel.

Colin Cowherd (48:55)

The other thing, I mean, yesterday was an incredible day. The Baker Mayfield story is amazing. And, I mean, Matt Hasselbeck was talking about this. Everybody. We all, as parents, want our kids to have an easier life than we did. Right? Like, we all want that as parents. It's. It's. But it's. It's. I mean, this is something I would talk about at therapy. Like, how do you make your kids know, you know, they're supported and they're loved, but, you know, not give them too easy of a life? Because Baker Mayfield is a great example of who succeeds in this life. And it's people that have overcome crap. And it's probably incredibly painful to watch your kids go through those times. But, you know, whether it's suspended at school or getting cut from the team, every parent wants to have their kids have this easy life. And I used to tell when I would go talk to college classes, I'm like, don't go to Fox or espn. Go to a crappy local market in Midland, Texas, and you have to edit your own tape, and you don't make any money, and your car runs out of gas, and you live in a part of town that you don't always feel great about, that's how you build character. And when I watch Baker Mayfield, those Cleveland years, and Freddy Kitchen and bouncing around and going to Los Angeles with one day of practice, there's nothing wrong with having a chip on your shoulder. Michael Jordan had it until the last day. But as long as it's a functional chip on the shoulder. Right now, Baker, all those hard times and all those doubters and walking on in college, he's really smartly using that chip, chip on the shoulder. But it's not defining him. Like, he's ticked off. He wants to get in your face. He wants to trash talk more than I love, but that's the difference. Baker came into this league, and because Cleveland wouldn't support him, and he was battling who, Hugh Jackson and his ego, and he was battling John Dorsey, and he was just dealing with a lot of nonsense, you put him in functional Tampa. Todd Bulls. No ego lets him run the offense. Jason Light Great gm. You know the family is not hovering over the franchise. I've always said Tampa always had players, but until Brady and Baker, they just couldn't get the quarterback right. They've always had good players. I covered them 30 years ago. We always had players. So it's just, it's one of those things where it's a hard message. But like all the stuff you deal with in your teen years in 20 and 21, 22, 23, if you've got the resilience, it pays off. The bad years for Baker is why Baker could be the MVP of the league this season. Our three next Imagine never buying gas again. EVs are as easy to charge as your phone and perfect for everyday life. Drive daily with confidence everywhere you go. Most Americans drive 40 miles a day. Most EVs are equipped equipped with 200 to 400 miles of range. They've got fewer parts, fewer repairs and fewer headaches. With hundreds of new and used EV models available today, there's an EV to fit every lifestyle and every budget. I love my electric vehicle. It's easy. No more gas stations. The way forward is electric. Learn more@electric for all.org what do you.

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