Podcast Summary: The Herd with Colin Cowherd — Hour 2 (October 27, 2025)
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This episode of The Herd, Hour 2, centers on Colin Cowherd's weekly self-audit segment "Where Colin Was Right, Where Colin Was Wrong," deep dives into the struggles and successes of NFL quarterbacks and teams, and features an extended, insightful interview with former NFL quarterback Matt Hasselbeck. They examine team dynamics, chemistry issues, and breakout performances across the NFL and NBA.
“Where Colin Was Right, Where Colin Was Wrong”
Segment Start: 03:24
Colin reflects on his sports predictions — which have played out or backfired this NFL and NBA season:
Where Colin Was Right
- A.J. Brown Drama and the Eagles:
“They had their best offensive game by a long shot without A.J. Brown. Maybe it’s coincidental, or maybe the only thing that gets in the way of a great locker room is drama.” (03:36) - Mike Vrabel in New England:
“First place, six and two… this will mark the fourth straight year that might double their win total.” (04:40) - Colts’ Roster and GM Chris Ballard:
"If you watch the games, they're bad at quarterback. They're good everywhere else. Their O line's good... The GM and the coach are excellent." (05:44) - Colorado Football, Deion Sanders:
"Deion Sanders was good for energy and some recruiting. He’s not an elite football coach." (07:13) - Justin Herbert Appreciation:
"Never wavered on Justin Herbert, top five quarterback, period." (07:57)
Where Colin Was Wrong
- Buffalo Bills:
“Yeah, I kicked Buffalo out of the Herd hierarchy. My bad. They're still good.” (04:14) - Brian Kelly at LSU:
“I thought Brian Kelly would work at LSU. I thought it was a weird fit, but the guy won everywhere. Fit matters.” (05:14) - Celtics Without Jayson Tatum:
“In the short term, they were fine without Jayson Tatum. In the long term, it is ugly because Jalen Brown's playing well.” (06:33) - Quarterbacks Wearing Hats Backwards:
(On Justin Herbert spotted at a Lakers game wearing his hat backwards) “I'm a true romantic... Everything in life has exemptions.” (08:32)
NFL Quarterback Play and Team Culture
Matt Hasselbeck Joins: 09:48
Packers’ Jordan Love
- Cowherd:
“Stop telling me Jordan Love’s up and coming. That’s elite size, arm, mobility... I think he’s got a little Mahomes in him.” (10:08) - Hasselbeck on Love:
“He’s awesome. It’s so weird what the Packers have done... One of the best things about him is his calmness, his demeanor when the moments get huge. He’s got a Jalen Hurts vibe about him.” (10:41)
Aaron Rodgers with the Steelers
- Cowherd:
“Sometimes you go to a company and the company has a culture and there’s only so much you can do within that culture... I think Aaron’s doing kind of about as much as a 41-year-old quarterback can do with Pittsburgh's offense.” (11:45) - Hasselbeck:
“They're the Pittsburgh Steelers. They're never going to change. They're bigger than any one player... Leadership in that locker room in Pittsburgh has to step up.” (12:11)
Team Chemistry and Offense Without A.J. Brown
- Cowherd:
“...from time to time, a really great player leaves and so does some drama, and the team plays better.” (13:13) - Hasselbeck:
“I think A.J. Brown is an incredible player... They didn’t need him yesterday... You don’t want an energy vampire on the sidelines. And diva wide receivers can do that. In this case, I don’t think A.J. Brown is that.” (13:48)
Quarterback Styles: Baker vs. Chef Analogy
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Cowherd:
“Just because a baker and a chef are in the kitchen, they have two different skill sets... Some guys are timing and rhythm quarterbacks, and some coaches are timing and rhythm coaches.” (15:00) -
On Caleb Williams:
“I watch Ben Johnson and I watch Caleb on script... Not trying to be harsh, but it just doesn’t... It shouldn’t be this hard.” (15:00) -
Hasselbeck:
“Caleb Williams is still a work in progress... Scouts love this guy. He has wow plays and explosive plays... But what coaches love is consistency.” (15:53)
Tyler Huntley’s Play
- Cowherd:
“I thought Tyler Huntley as a backup—that’s about as well as a backup can play. I kept waiting for a mistake.” (17:03) - Hasselbeck:
“He’s a really good player, and a great fit to back up Lamar... I would love to coach him.” (17:26)
Daniel Jones' Redemption
- Cowherd:
“Daniel Jones was so bad with the Giants, it’s hard to unsee it. I think Indy is going to give him an extension.” (17:51) - Hasselbeck:
“No, I’m not shocked at all... I feel like I called this... Top to bottom, I don’t care who you talk to... People have been saying from day one, this is going to be our guy.” (18:31)
Bo Nix and Broncos’ Offense with Sean Payton
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Cowherd:
“I’m watching... Between Sutton and Mims and Franklin... When I, as a consumer, watch Denver, I just see athletes everywhere. Weigh in on that offense, Bo and Sean.” (19:42) -
Hasselbeck:
“They got a great defense and that helps the offense... Bo Nix, to me, has been outstanding. Third down, even fourth down... Some people think, oh, he's streaky. When he’s on fire, he’s on fire. Similar to Drew Brees and a little bit unstoppable... I’m a believer in Bo Nix.” (20:26) -
Memorable Quote:
“If they could win that division, they can win the Super Bowl… I'm a believer in Bo Nix. I don't know how you can't be.” – Matt Hasselbeck (20:26)
Offensive Playcalling and Trick Plays
- Cowherd:
“These offensive coaches, the best guys, just have a way of dialing up a play and it's not just open, it's easily open in this tiny, congested space.” (21:37) - Hasselbeck on Playcalling:
“Sometimes you’ll put a play in for a team... and you keep practicing it for a week, two weeks, three weeks, four weeks, and now you’re going to use it against the next opponent like five weeks later... It’s not always that you schemed up this particular team. Sometimes you just finally get to call that play.” (22:24)
NFL Headlines and Analysis
Segment Start: 29:05
Ravens’ Injury Report Controversy
- The team initially reported Lamar Jackson as a full participant, then changed the practice status after the fact. John Harbaugh calls it “an honest mistake.”
- Harbaugh: “Nobody’s trying to hide anything… at the end of the day, it wasn’t right. So that’s what it was.” (29:54)
- Colin takes Harbaugh at his word, dismisses the notion that everything is intentional gamesmanship, and says he doesn’t care about fantasy football impact on injury reporting (32:00).
49ers and Texans Game Recap
- The Texans dominated a battered 49ers team. Kyle Shanahan called the effort “unacceptable.” (34:06)
- Colin’s take: “I did not [pick the Niners to win the division] for the exact reason that's transpired, which is they're old, expensive and brittle.” (35:08)
Austin Reeves’ Career Night
- Austin Reeves scores 51 for the Lakers, raising questions about his fit with ball-dominant players like Luka and LeBron.
- Colin: “On a championship team, he's a four. On a good playoff team, he's a three.” (37:20)
- Suggests trading Reeves for a better roster fit due to redundancy with Luka and LeBron.
Final Thoughts: Bo Nix, Lakers, and NBA Trends
Segment Start: 43:15
Bo Nix’s Pro Readiness
- Colin sings Bo Nix’s praises:
- “First in the NFL, completions on third down... Top four in red zone touchdowns.” (43:53)
- Matt Hasselbeck:
- “Third down, red zone, two minute, that's where Bo Nix to me has been outstanding. Some people like, 'Oh, he's streaky.' Yeah. Guess what? When he's on fire, he's on fire. Similar to Drew Brees and a little bit unstoppable... If they could win that division, they can win the Super Bowl.” (45:04)
Lakers Ownership and Austin Reeves’ Trade Value
- Colin advocates for moving Reeves for more defensive, off-ball help due to triplicate offensive redundancy with Luka and LeBron, and highlights the NBA’s shift to favor international superstars (49:45).
Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments
- “You don’t want an energy vampire on the sidelines. And diva wide receivers can do that.” – Matt Hasselbeck (14:46)
- “Some coaches are timing and rhythm coaches. Then you get Cam Newton or you get Farv... Listen, I’m going to ad-lib some of this stuff.” – Colin Cowherd (15:00)
- “What coaches love is consistency. I put myself in that boat, too. I want consistency. I just want you to do it the right way.” – Matt Hasselbeck on QB play (15:53)
- “When he’s on fire, he’s on fire. Similar to Drew Brees and a little bit unstoppable.” – Matt Hasselbeck on Bo Nix (20:26)
- “Your best players are all offensive guys. Move Austin Reaves, he’s a good player—on this team, you’ve got just better versions.” – Colin Cowherd (49:45)
Timestamps for Key Segments
- 03:24 – Right/Wrong Segment Begins
- 09:48 – Matt Hasselbeck Segment Starts
- 13:13 – Chemistry Discussion/A.J. Brown Absence
- 15:00 – QB Style Analogy: Baker vs. Chef
- 17:03 – Tyler Huntley's Backup Role
- 18:31 – Daniel Jones Discussion
- 20:26 – Bo Nix and Sean Payton/Denver Offense
- 22:24 – Playcalling and Trick Plays
- 29:05 – NFL Injury Report Controversy (Ravens/Lamar Jackson)
- 34:06 – 49ers Loss to Texans / Shanahan Comments
- 37:20 – Austin Reeves 51 Point Night / Trade Talk
- 43:53 – Bo Nix’s Third Down and Red Zone Stats
- 49:45 – Continued Austin Reaves Trade Argument
Overall Tone & Style
True to form, the show blends opinionated takes with inside stories, the banter between Colin and guests (especially former players), and a mix of strategic, big-picture analysis with day-to-day NFL and NBA news. The episode is candid, occasionally humorous, and always focused on the why behind what’s happening in sports.
