THE HERD - Hour 2 - Where Colin was right and wrong, Bears struggles at QB, Matt Hasselbeck

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Podcast Summary: The Herd with Colin Cowherd — Hour 2 (October 27, 2025)

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This episode of The Herd, Hour 2, centers on Colin Cowherd's weekly self-audit segment "Where Colin Was Right, Where Colin Was Wrong," deep dives into the struggles and successes of NFL quarterbacks and teams, and features an extended, insightful interview with former NFL quarterback Matt Hasselbeck. They examine team dynamics, chemistry issues, and breakout performances across the NFL and NBA.

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“Where Colin Was Right, Where Colin Was Wrong”

Segment Start: 03:24

Colin reflects on his sports predictions — which have played out or backfired this NFL and NBA season:

Where Colin Was Right

• A.J. Brown Drama and the Eagles:
  “They had their best offensive game by a long shot without A.J. Brown. Maybe it’s coincidental, or maybe the only thing that gets in the way of a great locker room is drama.” (03:36)
• Mike Vrabel in New England:
  “First place, six and two… this will mark the fourth straight year that might double their win total.” (04:40)
• Colts’ Roster and GM Chris Ballard:
  "If you watch the games, they're bad at quarterback. They're good everywhere else. Their O line's good... The GM and the coach are excellent." (05:44)
• Colorado Football, Deion Sanders:
  "Deion Sanders was good for energy and some recruiting. He’s not an elite football coach." (07:13)
• Justin Herbert Appreciation:
  "Never wavered on Justin Herbert, top five quarterback, period." (07:57)

Where Colin Was Wrong

• Buffalo Bills:
  “Yeah, I kicked Buffalo out of the Herd hierarchy. My bad. They're still good.” (04:14)
• Brian Kelly at LSU:
  “I thought Brian Kelly would work at LSU. I thought it was a weird fit, but the guy won everywhere. Fit matters.” (05:14)
• Celtics Without Jayson Tatum:
  “In the short term, they were fine without Jayson Tatum. In the long term, it is ugly because Jalen Brown's playing well.” (06:33)
• Quarterbacks Wearing Hats Backwards:
  (On Justin Herbert spotted at a Lakers game wearing his hat backwards) “I'm a true romantic... Everything in life has exemptions.” (08:32)

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NFL Quarterback Play and Team Culture

Matt Hasselbeck Joins: 09:48

Packers’ Jordan Love

• Cowherd:
  “Stop telling me Jordan Love’s up and coming. That’s elite size, arm, mobility... I think he’s got a little Mahomes in him.” (10:08)
• Hasselbeck on Love:
  “He’s awesome. It’s so weird what the Packers have done... One of the best things about him is his calmness, his demeanor when the moments get huge. He’s got a Jalen Hurts vibe about him.” (10:41)

Aaron Rodgers with the Steelers

• Cowherd:
  “Sometimes you go to a company and the company has a culture and there’s only so much you can do within that culture... I think Aaron’s doing kind of about as much as a 41-year-old quarterback can do with Pittsburgh's offense.” (11:45)
• Hasselbeck:
  “They're the Pittsburgh Steelers. They're never going to change. They're bigger than any one player... Leadership in that locker room in Pittsburgh has to step up.” (12:11)

Team Chemistry and Offense Without A.J. Brown

• Cowherd:
  “...from time to time, a really great player leaves and so does some drama, and the team plays better.” (13:13)
• Hasselbeck:
  “I think A.J. Brown is an incredible player... They didn’t need him yesterday... You don’t want an energy vampire on the sidelines. And diva wide receivers can do that. In this case, I don’t think A.J. Brown is that.” (13:48)

Quarterback Styles: Baker vs. Chef Analogy

• Cowherd:
  “Just because a baker and a chef are in the kitchen, they have two different skill sets... Some guys are timing and rhythm quarterbacks, and some coaches are timing and rhythm coaches.” (15:00)

• On Caleb Williams:
  “I watch Ben Johnson and I watch Caleb on script... Not trying to be harsh, but it just doesn’t... It shouldn’t be this hard.” (15:00)

• Hasselbeck:
  “Caleb Williams is still a work in progress... Scouts love this guy. He has wow plays and explosive plays... But what coaches love is consistency.” (15:53)

Tyler Huntley’s Play

• Cowherd:
  “I thought Tyler Huntley as a backup—that’s about as well as a backup can play. I kept waiting for a mistake.” (17:03)
• Hasselbeck:
  “He’s a really good player, and a great fit to back up Lamar... I would love to coach him.” (17:26)

Daniel Jones' Redemption

• Cowherd:
  “Daniel Jones was so bad with the Giants, it’s hard to unsee it. I think Indy is going to give him an extension.” (17:51)
• Hasselbeck:
  “No, I’m not shocked at all... I feel like I called this... Top to bottom, I don’t care who you talk to... People have been saying from day one, this is going to be our guy.” (18:31)

Bo Nix and Broncos’ Offense with Sean Payton

• Cowherd:
  “I’m watching... Between Sutton and Mims and Franklin... When I, as a consumer, watch Denver, I just see athletes everywhere. Weigh in on that offense, Bo and Sean.” (19:42)

• Hasselbeck:
  “They got a great defense and that helps the offense... Bo Nix, to me, has been outstanding. Third down, even fourth down... Some people think, oh, he's streaky. When he’s on fire, he’s on fire. Similar to Drew Brees and a little bit unstoppable... I’m a believer in Bo Nix.” (20:26)

• Memorable Quote:
  “If they could win that division, they can win the Super Bowl… I'm a believer in Bo Nix. I don't know how you can't be.” – Matt Hasselbeck (20:26)

Offensive Playcalling and Trick Plays

• Cowherd:
  “These offensive coaches, the best guys, just have a way of dialing up a play and it's not just open, it's easily open in this tiny, congested space.” (21:37)
• Hasselbeck on Playcalling:
  “Sometimes you’ll put a play in for a team... and you keep practicing it for a week, two weeks, three weeks, four weeks, and now you’re going to use it against the next opponent like five weeks later... It’s not always that you schemed up this particular team. Sometimes you just finally get to call that play.” (22:24)

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NFL Headlines and Analysis

Segment Start: 29:05

Ravens’ Injury Report Controversy

• The team initially reported Lamar Jackson as a full participant, then changed the practice status after the fact. John Harbaugh calls it “an honest mistake.”
  • Harbaugh: “Nobody’s trying to hide anything… at the end of the day, it wasn’t right. So that’s what it was.” (29:54)
• Colin takes Harbaugh at his word, dismisses the notion that everything is intentional gamesmanship, and says he doesn’t care about fantasy football impact on injury reporting (32:00).

49ers and Texans Game Recap

• The Texans dominated a battered 49ers team. Kyle Shanahan called the effort “unacceptable.” (34:06)
• Colin’s take: “I did not [pick the Niners to win the division] for the exact reason that's transpired, which is they're old, expensive and brittle.” (35:08)

Austin Reeves’ Career Night

• Austin Reeves scores 51 for the Lakers, raising questions about his fit with ball-dominant players like Luka and LeBron.
  • Colin: “On a championship team, he's a four. On a good playoff team, he's a three.” (37:20)
  • Suggests trading Reeves for a better roster fit due to redundancy with Luka and LeBron.

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Final Thoughts: Bo Nix, Lakers, and NBA Trends

Segment Start: 43:15

Bo Nix’s Pro Readiness

• Colin sings Bo Nix’s praises:
  • “First in the NFL, completions on third down... Top four in red zone touchdowns.” (43:53)
• Matt Hasselbeck:
  • “Third down, red zone, two minute, that's where Bo Nix to me has been outstanding. Some people like, 'Oh, he's streaky.' Yeah. Guess what? When he's on fire, he's on fire. Similar to Drew Brees and a little bit unstoppable... If they could win that division, they can win the Super Bowl.” (45:04)

Lakers Ownership and Austin Reeves’ Trade Value

• Colin advocates for moving Reeves for more defensive, off-ball help due to triplicate offensive redundancy with Luka and LeBron, and highlights the NBA’s shift to favor international superstars (49:45).

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “You don’t want an energy vampire on the sidelines. And diva wide receivers can do that.” – Matt Hasselbeck (14:46)
• “Some coaches are timing and rhythm coaches. Then you get Cam Newton or you get Farv... Listen, I’m going to ad-lib some of this stuff.” – Colin Cowherd (15:00)
• “What coaches love is consistency. I put myself in that boat, too. I want consistency. I just want you to do it the right way.” – Matt Hasselbeck on QB play (15:53)
• “When he’s on fire, he’s on fire. Similar to Drew Brees and a little bit unstoppable.” – Matt Hasselbeck on Bo Nix (20:26)
• “Your best players are all offensive guys. Move Austin Reaves, he’s a good player—on this team, you’ve got just better versions.” – Colin Cowherd (49:45)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 03:24 – Right/Wrong Segment Begins
• 09:48 – Matt Hasselbeck Segment Starts
• 13:13 – Chemistry Discussion/A.J. Brown Absence
• 15:00 – QB Style Analogy: Baker vs. Chef
• 17:03 – Tyler Huntley's Backup Role
• 18:31 – Daniel Jones Discussion
• 20:26 – Bo Nix and Sean Payton/Denver Offense
• 22:24 – Playcalling and Trick Plays
• 29:05 – NFL Injury Report Controversy (Ravens/Lamar Jackson)
• 34:06 – 49ers Loss to Texans / Shanahan Comments
• 37:20 – Austin Reeves 51 Point Night / Trade Talk
• 43:53 – Bo Nix’s Third Down and Red Zone Stats
• 49:45 – Continued Austin Reaves Trade Argument

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Overall Tone & Style
True to form, the show blends opinionated takes with inside stories, the banter between Colin and guests (especially former players), and a mix of strategic, big-picture analysis with day-to-day NFL and NBA news. The episode is candid, occasionally humorous, and always focused on the why behind what’s happening in sports.

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[Colin Cowherd]

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[J. Mac]

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[Colin Cowherd]

Here we go. It's a Monday. It's hour two. Chiefs play tonight, Game three of the World Series on Fox tonight. This is the Herd. Wherever you may be and however you may be listening, thanks for making us part of your day. Nice job. Graphics and set. Halloween is Friday night. The Cowherd Grotto will be serving up fresh produce to all the children in the neighborhood. Well, maybe. Maybe some M&Ms, too. All right, J. Mac. You know, right and wrong is a staple on this show.

[Brian D]

Indeed.

[Colin Cowherd]

And sometimes, unlike Yoshi, I surrender a meatball and it gets hit out of the stadium. So here we go to Monday. Colin right. Colin wrong.

[J. Mac]

Where Colin was right.

[Colin Cowherd]

I told you. I told you earlier this year and I told you last year, A.J. brown. There's drama. Jalen hurts head down Grinder. He's not going to deal with any of it. They had their best offensive game by a long shot without A.J. brown. Maybe it's coincidental or maybe the only thing that gets in the way of a great locker room is drama. And there's a little bit of drama. It gets people sidetracked. But the Eagles I watched yesterday looked like the Eagles that got to a Super bowl last year.

[J. Mac]

Where Colin was wrong.

[Colin Cowherd]

Yeah, I kicked Buffalo out of the Herd hierarchy.

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[Colin Cowherd]

My bad. They're still good. What was remarkable is that Josh Allen only had 19 pass attempts. They look like the real deal, you know? What do you need to say when Josh is feeling it? I don't think Carolina's as terrible as everybody wants to say. I think Carolina is okay, but gotta be honest, that was impressive.

[J. Mac]

Where Colin was right.

[Colin Cowherd]

Mike Vrabel in New England, first place, six two. This will mark the fourth straight year that might double their win total. Pick will come to fruition. They're still in the rebuild. They still need to me, a consistent pass rusher. Another perimeter weapon. But they're well coached. And Drake may. Man, does that. Does that look good? Just the eye test. Accurate size. Boy, he moves, knows when to slide. Yeah, we were right on that one.

[J. Mac]

Where Colin was wrong.

[Colin Cowherd]

I thought Brian Kelly would work at lsu. I thought it was a weird fit. That whole, you know, Southern twang thing he had, I thought was weird. But I mean, the guy won everywhere. Ed Oron won a natty at lsu. And Brian is a good coach pre lsu. He won big at three different programs. Smart guy. But you know what? It just goes to show that fit matters. And this was always. I think you knew this. It was a weird fit.

[J. Mac]

Where Colin was right.

[Colin Cowherd]

Said it last year when the Indianapolis local media was saying, you gotta. You gotta fire Chris Ballard, the gm. And I'm like, are you guys crazy? If you watch the games, they're bad at quarterback. They're good everywhere else. Their O line's good. Taylor, Pierce, Pittman. I mean, they could use another pass rusher. They're probably one cornerback shy, but the whole NFL could use another cornerback. This is a well constructed team. That jet. The sky was never falling in this league. If you don't have quarterback right, it makes everybody else look incompetent. The GM and the coach are excellent. They just needed a trigger man. And I would be shocked if they don't sign Daniel Jones to an extension.

[J. Mac]

Where Collin was wrong.

[Colin Cowherd]

The Celtics are winless without Jayson Tatum. And Jaylen Brown's even playing well. Listen, the last several years, the point differential didn't change that much. In fact, the offense was better when he didn't play. Now, I didn't think the team was better, but they've been fine without Jayson Tatum for several years. Right now their offense, 30th in the NBA, dead last. So, I mean, listen, we know he's a good player, good kid. In the short term, they were fine without Jayson Tatum. In the long term, it is ugly because Jalen Brown's playing well. Jalen Brown always plays well.

[J. Mac]

Where Colin was right, Colorado got baked again.

[Colin Cowherd]

53 7, lost to Utah, down 43 nothing at half. Listen, I said Deion Sanders was great to get attention. Deion Sanders was good for energy and some recruiting. He's not an elite football coach. They're one in four in the Big 12. You know, again, not every coach is just about W's. I think at Colorado with some of their revenue issues, Nil, world. I think Dion was a good choice. But we always said this staff, I mean, that come on, I mean, you have to be 1000% committed to coaching to be really, really even good at it. And I just never thought Dion was.

[J. Mac]

That level of a coach where Colin was right.

[Colin Cowherd]

I have never wavered on Justin Herbert, top five quarterback, period. And right now, second in touchdown passes in the NFL, first in passing yards with a number three running back, back up everywhere on the offensive line. He's faced 20 more pressures than the next quarterback in the NFL, they are 5 and 3. They just blew out the Vikings.

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[Colin Cowherd]

And again, he is doing it with most of the offense either gone or not playing at 100%.

[J. Mac]

Where Colin was wrong.

[Colin Cowherd]

Okay, I'm making an exception with Quarterbacks wearing their hat on backwards. Justin was at a Laker game with singer and model Madison Beer. Listen, I'm sorry. I'm a true romantic. I'm sorry. Everything in life has exemptions. It was his off day. I mean, he didn't have practice. I mean, he. Look at him. He's like a hero. I mean, everybody in life has to make one exception. Oh, okay. I made a big exception and. Oh, my bad. I'm a true romantic. I see you know a lot more than just Valentine's Day cards going forward, so I'm going to make a little tiny exception with quarterbacks in their hat on backwards. Influencer. Artist. Hey, it's an artist. Means maybe. Maybe he's becoming a little more ad. Libby. And with that, Matt Hasselbeck. 18 years in the NFL. Listen, I have a lot of kids and I have rules. I am. I'll make a second exception on quarterbacks. I like you and Herbert.

[Matt Hasselbeck]

Hey, I don't know. Romantic. Is that the right word? Listen, for him, he's got such beautiful hair, though. It's kind of like a headband. He's just like keeping it back. He's like Jim McMahon in that headband with that said Roselle. I mean, look at that beautiful hair. It's amazing.

[Colin Cowherd]

Yeah, there's a lot of beautiful things there. And that his hair is one of them.

[Matt Hasselbeck]

You're such a romantic. You're such a romantic.

[Colin Cowherd]

Oh, gosh. I know. All right, so I'm watching the packers last night, and I said this during the break about half hour ago, and J. Mac rolled his eyes and I said, listen, stop telling me Jordan loves up and coming. That's elite size arm mobility. I think he's got a little. He got a little mahomes in him where he can do the underneath stuff. You can put him on script. But I'm. I'm sorry, Matt. He is just one of those guys that it. The ball looks different. It's just he's such a natural, fluid guy. What do you see?

[Matt Hasselbeck]

Yeah, he's. He's awesome. Listen, it's so weird what the packers have done. They went from far to Rogers to love so seamlessly. In a world where no one can get the quarterback right, those three guys kind of sort of started playing like each other. I think Jordan love plays a lot like Aaron Rodgers, you know, And I know Matt LaFleur is there, same coach as Rogers finished with, and that's who's training him up. He's great. I think one of the best things about him is his Calmness, his demeanor when the moments get huge. He's got a Jalen Hurts vibe about him. Like, yeah, yeah, this is really cool. This is fun. I get to go play against Aaron Rodgers at Lambeau. No big deal. Yeah, we're gonna do a jersey swap later. Like, that's awesome. Like, it's incredible to have that level of, you know, like, this is a guy he probably grew up watching and now everywhere he goes in Green Bay, people love Aaron Rodgers. A lot of those guys have super bowl rings on their fingers, are at home because Aaron Rodgers helped him get it. And yet he's like, yeah, it's cool. Like, I'm going in with my guys. That might really be his guys. They're all hugging before the game and I'm going to be like, yeah, this is my team now. I got it. I'm looking forward to this. I love that about him. And yeah, sure, like all the throwing and all that stuff, he's got that as well. There's no doubt about that.

[Colin Cowherd]

Listen, I. Everybody could beat up on Aaron Rodgers, but there's. Sometimes you go to a company and the company has a culture and there's only so much you can do within that culture. And this is a. Spend their money on defense, a defensive head coach, they're still on 4th and 3, punting it or kicking field goals. I think Aaron's doing kind of about as much as a 41 year old quarterback can do with Pittsburgh's offense. Or am I wrong?

[Matt Hasselbeck]

No. And they're the Pittsburgh Steelers. Like, they're never going to change. They're bigger than any one player. I don't care who the player is. For decades now, Aaron Rodgers has breathed life into that offense and that excitement. I think the defense just isn't matching the intensity. They're not matching the level of execution. They spend a lot of money in that defense. I don't know if you know that, but they're not playing like it. And I think in that game there were just so many efficient runs from the packers, especially late in the game. And by efficient run I mean like if it's second and two and you run the ball for three yards, like that's perfect. That's called an efficient run. And so like not every run has to be an explosive run, but when it's a running down, we're moving the chains. That's what the packers couldn't help their quarterback out. They couldn't help out Aaron Rodgers on the other side of the ball. So no, I mean this is still a playoff team. In my mind, because their division so bad and they can figure it out. But the leadership in that locker room in Pittsburgh has to step up and say, hey, guys, listen, this is where the Pittsburgh Steelers. We're known for our defense. Like, let's be known for it in a good way. Not in the way that, hey, we're letting down our. Our hall of Fame quarterback.

[Colin Cowherd]

So this happens in the NBA. It happens in the NFL. Not that frequently, but from time to time, a really great player leaves and so does some drama, and the team plays better. And I've seen it happen in the NBA. It's not just all about, you know, great players. Chemistry is so undervalued. You live with these guys for eight, nine months. A.J. brown doesn't play the offense. Looked like the super bowl offense. And it's like, I like A.J. brown. I love him. But is it a coincidence they were that good yesterday?

[Matt Hasselbeck]

Well, they did play the Giants. I mean, so, I mean, I mean, you know, it's a rivalry game. The Giants. Listen, the Giants had too many mental errors, mental mistakes on defense. Like, they let Saquon Barkley go for the first touchdown of the game. I think AJ Bark. I think AJ Brown is incredible player and very important to the Phillies offense, to all their success. They didn't need him yesterday. They played outstanding without him yesterday. But they also rushed the ball for like, almost 300 yards. Dallas Goddard is a weapon. He showed up big time again, you know, the Giants didn't do a great job of trying to stop him. And then other people stepped up. Like, late in the game, they're going all out blitz. Jalen Hurts is forced to throw the ball. He throws a beautiful pass to Dotson. He goes up and Mosses somebody like, listen, this is a complete team. This is probably, you know, a lot of people's favorite to be the super bowl representative for the nfc. I think this is a team that I believe in. I believed in them for a long time. The drama, they seem to be used to it. There's. There's something about the mental toughness of this team. But yes, I would agree. You don't want an energy vampire on the sidelines. And diva wide receivers can do that. In this case, I don't think A.J. brown is that. I think his. His importance to the team, his value to the team is real.

[Colin Cowherd]

You know, I was thinking about this this morning. Is that just because a baker and a chef are in the kitchen, they have two different skill sets. One, baking is following, you know, recipes, and, you know, chef is a Little of this and a little of that and a pinch of that. Is that quarterbacks, we all just think big, strong throws. Okay? That's not it. Some guys are timing and rhythm quarterbacks, and some coaches are timing and rhythm coaches. And then you get Cam Newton or you get kind of far. I guess you could say he's just kind of. Listen, I'm gonna. I'm gonna add lib some of this stuff. I watch Ben Johnson and I watch Caleb on script. That's one quarterback, but the other 12 possessions, I'm not trying to be harsh, but it just doesn't. It shouldn't be this hard, Matt, should it?

[Matt Hasselbeck]

Well, I think Caleb Williams is still a work in progress. He's a young quarterback. And, you know, like, I get what you're saying. Like, the baker and the chef. Scouts are going to love this guy. He has wow plays and explosive plays that are just, like, amazing. Like, you can't coach that. You can't find it anywhere. That's what scouts love. But what coaches love is consistency. I put myself in that boat, too. I want consistency. I just want you to do it the right way. And I think Caleb is trying. He's trying to throw on time. He's trying desperately not to take sacks. But in the process, kind of like what Will Levis did last year, he was trying so hard not to take sacks. He's, you know, intentional grounding here and there. He's hurting his team in other ways. He's missing guys that are wide open. And so listen, I'm not trying to throw stones. I just think he's a work in progress. But to me, so far, what I see, I think Ben Johnson is here to stay as a great head coach. Will it work out with these two guys? I'm not so sure. I'm not so sure. The wow plays might be enough for Ben Johnson to say, hey, I believe in my ability as a coach. I can. I can mold this guy. But at the same time, the Bears are talented team and they want to be winning games. They don't want to be losing to the Baltimore Ravens the way they did yesterday.

[Colin Cowherd]

I got to give credit. I know it's not a flashy story. I thought Tyler Huntley as a backup, that's about as well as a backup can play. I mean, honestly, I kept waiting for a mistake. I kept thinking, okay, he's a backup. I was. I mean, that I looked at him and I'm like, that's a professional athlete. I could not believe how efficient he was. Or is it the Bears defense is overrated.

[Matt Hasselbeck]

I actually think he's a really good player, and he's a great fit to back up Lamar. I think he could be somebody's starter. Last year he didn't play great, and I'm not sure why, because every year before that, he was very, very impressive to me. I think he's one of the. I don't know. I would love to coach him. I think he's a fun player to watch. I think he does everything right. He plays on time. I don't know if there's a huge fan club for him, but I'm in it if there is one.

[Colin Cowherd]

Okay. So sometimes, you know, it's so funny about this league. We've seen Baker and Darnold reinvent themselves. Daniel Jones was so bad with the Giants, it's hard to unsee it. So Kyle Shanahan, you know, he saw the Sam Darnold, the Carolina and the jets, and he's like, no, no, I see it. I see the talent. He brings him out and then Sam changes. I looked at Daniel Jones and I'm totally wrong. I'm like, I can't unsee it. He's too stiff. I know he's a big strong guy, but he's too stiff. It looks too hard. Are you shocked? I mean, I think Indy is going to give him an extension. I think you have to. Are you shocked by it?

[Matt Hasselbeck]

No, I'm not shocked at all. In fact, I feel like I called this. This is, you know, he went and spent some time with the Minnesota Vikings, like, you know, similar to what Sam Darnold did with the 49ers. Similar to what, really? To what Mac Jones is trying to do right now. And he showed up and everything I heard in Indianapolis from day one, they were like, look out. And I know we drafted a guy really high in the first round, but Daniel Jones is going to be our starter. He's been unbelievably impressive. And top to bottom, I don't care who you talk to from ownership on all the way down. People have been saying from day one, like, this is going to be our guy. This is going to be our guy. Reminds them of a lot of the characteristics that they had and some of the other great quarterbacks that they had there in the past. So, listen, this is maybe one of the best teams in football, and no one's giving them credit. I think it's starting to come. They got a huge one coming up against Pittsburgh. That'll be a challeng challenge. But if they go and beat Pittsburgh, I think there's no denying it. We can talk about Daniel Jones as a possible MVP candidate, if not his teammate, Jonathan Taylor. And we could talk about the Indianapolis colts possibly being the 1 seed in the AFC with a, you know, with a first round buy and hosting playoff games in a dome stadium. Look out for the Indianapolis Colts. They're for real.

[Colin Cowherd]

Yeah, I. Okay, so full disclosure. I saw Bo Nix play twice in college live, and I was a huge fan and I covered Oregon for a long time. So I just like the program and I'm a huge Sean Payton guy. Cause I worked with him at Fox for a year, and I just think he's really bright and has a million ideas. Not all of them right, but he's got a million ideas. I'm watching them. First of all, between Sutton and Mims and Franklin and this, this kid from Illinois, those guys are like long. They run well, they can stretch the field. I'm just telling you, when I, as a consumer watch Denver, I just see athletes everywhere, weigh in on that offense. Bo and Sean, well, they got a.

[Matt Hasselbeck]

Great defense and then that helps the offense. And Sean is very confident, knows exactly what he wants to do, has done it for a long time. And as a quarterback, he's exactly the kind of guy you didn't want to play for. I think what Bo Nix is so great at, and a lot of people, you know, I would say, every coach I ever had would say, hey, quarterbacks, you make so much money because of what we expect you to do. On third down, red zone in two minute. And that's where Bo Nix, to me, has been outstanding. Third down, even fourth down, he's been incredible with his arm, with his legs, with his mind. Just really impressive. And you think about that draft class, the draft class that last year was Jaden Daniels. This year, everyone's talking about Drake May. Both those guys are outstanding. But Bo Nicks, he's right there. He's right there. Both last year and this year. And some people think, oh, he's streaky. Yeah. Guess what? When he's. When he's on fire, he's on fire. Similar. I don't want to say it, but similar to Drew Brees and a little bit unstoppable. Like the defense. I don't know what you do differently. And this, this tandem with Sean Payton, like, it's. It's legit. Are they a Super bowl contender? Yeah. If they can come out of their division, if they could win that division, they can win the Super Bowl. That's a great division. So I'm a believer in Bo Nix. I don't know how you can't be.

[Colin Cowherd]

Yeah, you know, it's funny. I'm watching Green Bay last night and I'm watching Denver yesterday and they just. These coaches, LaFleur and Peyton have a way and I don't. And I'm going to ask you this, that whenever they need a clever play, I'm always amazed when Andy Reid gets Sky Moore not only a touchdown in the super bowl, He's open by 20 yards at the nine yard line. You're like, how in the hell do you do that? How do you fool everybody? How many times did you. With like a Mike Holmgren, how many times did you go into game. How many plays did you have that were like, okay, we need a touchdown? We. How many do you go into a game? Because I swear to God, these offensive coaches, the best guys, just have a way of dialing up a play. And it's not just open, it's easily open in this tiny, congested space.

[Matt Hasselbeck]

Yeah, like, listen, I might be like bursting your bubble here a little bit, but like, sometimes you'll put a play in for a team. Let's just say you're Sean Payton and the Broncos. You put a play in for the Raiders and you'd end up not calling it, but like, man, that would have been a great, great play. And you keep practicing it for like a week, two weeks, three weeks, four weeks, and now you're going to use it against the next opponent like five weeks later. And it works on them. And they're like, oh, they schemed up this defense and it's like, you know, the funny thing is the name of that play is Raider because we put it against for the Raiders like five weeks ago. We just been practicing for so long, we finally got the stupid thing called that call sheet so stinking big you can't. You know, sometimes you just don't get to all of them. And so like, ye. It's like sometimes like, oh, we schemed them up. Like, we didn't put it in for this team. You know, I think the Philly Special might have even been that kind of a play. The Eagles have put it in way earlier in the season. So last game, the season, super bowl, and Nick Foles says to Doug Peterson, like, hey, you want to run Philly Special? Like, we've been practicing this thing all year. Like, let's just go ahead and run it so that that happens. I see plays happen all the time and I'm like, I doubt they put that in for this team.

[Colin Cowherd]

Well, well, you did burst my bubble. But it's great information and it's. Anytime I see that, I'm like, what a brilliant coach. And I'm like, just like in the dustbin in the back room and you pull it out because you need it, you know?

[Matt Hasselbeck]

Yeah, exactly.

[Colin Cowherd]

All right, great stuff. Matt Hasselback on the Monday. Thanks, bud.

[Matt Hasselbeck]

All right, see you.

[Colin Cowherd]

Yeah, that's such good information because LaFleur had one of those last night against the Steelers and I'm like, man, that guy's a genius. He may have, he may have had that thing for the Lions in the opener and he didn't get to it. And boy, Sean Payton and Andy Reid, they just, you get into these fourth and ones or a two point conversion, it's like, yeah, it's going to work. It's going to work. And I love the fact that he likes Tyler Huntley too. I'm watching the Ravens, I'm like, if you've never seen Tyler Huntley play, you're like, oh, I could build around that guy.

[J. Mac]

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[Colin Cowherd]

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[Dan Morgan Host]

I've got Dan Morgan here on the pod.

[Colin Cowherd]

Say hi, Dan.

[Dan Morgan]

Hey, how's it going today?

[Dan Morgan Host]

It's going good, man. Tell us who you are and what you do.

[Dan Morgan]

I'm Dan Morgan. I'm an attorney and a managing partner at Morgan and Morgan, which is America's largest injury law firm.

[Dan Morgan Host]

That's pretty awesome. Why do you guys think you win so many cases?

[Dan Morgan]

The insurance companies and other companies that we go against know that we're going to take it to the end that we believe in the case. So we fight for every dollar and we're not afraid to go that extra mile for our clients.

[Dan Morgan Host]

Are insurance companies like actually afraid of you guys?

[Dan Morgan]

We don't bluff. We take it to trial. And we are not strangers of getting very, very, very large. Verdicts. Awesome.

[Dan Morgan Host]

So how does someone get in contact with Morgan and Morgan? What would I do if I got into an accident?

[Dan Morgan]

Probably the easiest way is dialing pound law. That's £529 from your cell phone. Our call center is always waiting to take your call 247365 wow.

[Dan Morgan Host]

Dan Morgan from Morgan & Morgan, America's largest injury law firm. Thanks for coming by the show.

[Dan Morgan]

Thanks for having me. Visit forthepeople.com for an office near you.

[Colin Cowherd]

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[Colin Cowherd]

Carson Palmer Last Hour Game 3 of the world's Series. Tonight, Josh Page stops by our show. Great college football voice in the final hour. LSU is like, it's really interesting. If you were Lane Kiffin and you were offered LSU or Florida, who would you take? I would take Florida because Lane's a Florida guy. But LSU is considered by many to be, along with Georgia, maybe Texas, the best college football job because of all the high school talent. Within an hour of the campus, Lane Kiffin's gonna have options, including staying at Ole Miss. They're gonna make the playoffs now. They got three or four games left. They're mostly at home. So Lane Kiffin is gonna make the playoff. Reinvented himself. Good for him. J. Mack with the news. No, no, no. Turn on the news.

[J. Mac]

This is the Herdline news.

[Brian D]

All right, Colin, we gotta start with an ugly story in the NFL, and that's the Baltimore Ravens skirting the injury report stuff all week with this Lamar Jackson. This has gotten ugly, and they're going to get slapped on the wrist for it. So it's weird. Colin, Friday we were on the show. Lamar Jackson was listed as a full participant in practice. John Harbaugh said he practiced in full. So then on Saturday, the Raven said, oh, that was our mistake. He was actually limited in practice, and he was with the scout team. And then all of a sudden, it's like, lamar's not playing. And, Colin, I don't know how you. I know. You're like, hey, it's no big deal. Gamesmanship, blah, blah, blah. They're playing with the minds of the. Of the Chicago Bears, keeping them guessing whether it's Lamar or Snoop Hundley. Kyle, this is bad. Here's John Harbaugh explaining it.

[John Harbaugh]

It's an honest mistake. I mean, it really is an honest mistake. I can tell you this. Nobody's trying to hide anything. I mean, there's no advantage. There's no advantage to be gained, you know, with that. In their defense, you know, he practiced a full practice, I think they felt like, because he did the same number of reps, it was a full practice. But when you dig in and you read the rule, at the end of the day, it wasn't right. So that's what it was. That's why as soon as we found out, we changed it.

[Colin Cowherd]

Yeah, I don't want to be cynical, Media guy.

[Brian D]

Oh, really?

[John Harbaugh]

Okay.

[Colin Cowherd]

I believe him.

[Brian D]

He's the only coach in the league, what, 15, 20 years, and he's like, oh, when you read the rule, I.

[Colin Cowherd]

Didn'T know the rule. The San Francisco 49ers players did not know the overtime rule in the super.

[Brian D]

Bowl just been changed. Come on, stop it. The injury reports have not. Come on. This has been around for a while. You know, they're a good organization. But Colin, this is a little sketchy.

[Colin Cowherd]

This idea that everybody knows everything. I literally have been in TV for 25 years. I could never direct a show. I don't even know what knob to push. The idea that every coach knows everything about every. They don't. That's why half of these coordinators get jobs and they just flail. They don't. The little tiny leap between coordinator and head coach. They can't do it. I know everybody out there is. This is what we do. We're all, we're like sharks attacking chum. When John Harbaugh's like, yeah, we, we didn't know. And then we found out, we immediately changed it. I think he's not BSing. I think, I think he's telling the truth.

[Brian D]

So Friday, when most people are doing their, you know, walk through the day before the weekend begins, hey, we're locked in the plan. We got everything. Lamar's practicing in full and then he doesn't play. Listen, the Falcons are dodging a bullet here because they did the same crap with Drake London who didn't miss any practice all week and then all of a sudden sits out the game. I mean, Colin, you know this. The league is hugely propelled by fantasy football and gambling and a lot of people are making decisions on that and betting early in the week. And maybe one of the people on.

[Colin Cowherd]

This time out, you, you are hugely propelled by getting.

[Brian D]

People are doing. This is not one person.

[Colin Cowherd]

Millions of people go to games. They don't get to be coordinators. So what? I don't care if I'm an NFL franchise. I don't give a care. I don't give a rip about fantasy football players.

[Brian D]

The league has rules in place because they know how valuable fantasy and gambling.

[Colin Cowherd]

Well, you know, my rule has always been I don't think injury reports should be published, period. I think it's a terrible idea to tell opponents the weakness. The other thing, it was a hamstring injury. Two injuries in my life. Hamstring injuries and calf injuries. Well, let me add groin injuries. You're like, oh, I'm good. You wake up the next morning, you stretch and you're like, crap, you and me.

[Brian D]

But not 25 year old guys in the prime there.

[Colin Cowherd]

Opposite's true. They're more finely tuned. I have literally pulled my groin because I had my groin pulled. I remember this years ago and an athlete said, bro, you're gonna pull the other side if you don't. Just do not do anything athletic. And I'm out here thinking, yeah, whatever. Two days later made it worse. Calf injuries, hammy injuries. These are finely tuned athletes. Sometimes you go to bed, it feels good. You wake up, you can literally pull your calf in your sleep. So I don't think. I do not. I'm not going to be cynical guy on Ravens. Like, I don't think they knew. I think it happens. I think players change their minds. Lamar could say, okay, I'll go practice, but how hard did he go at practice? You don't know that.

[Brian D]

Well, we're on very opposite sides of the fence now. We'll move on to speaking of bad, it's the San Francisco 49ers. They were down bad. We had this in headlines Friday. This was a layup. Texans roll a listless San Francisco team column. They had zero first downs. I believe with 90 seconds left in the first half, they could not move the football. CMAC had very low usage rate. I think he had like 70 yards total. Here's Kyle Shanahan, not thrilled with his team's effort.

[I]

Not much to sugarcoat there. And I was real disappointed in how he looked for all four quarters. First half was unacceptable and second half didn't get much better. So not much to say about it except that we'll look it on the plane and figure out all the things that we know we can correct and that we did mess up. But I expect the guys to come in tomorrow with a chip on their shoulder ready to get back to work.

[Colin Cowherd]

What's interesting is after wins, I took the Texans this week. After wins, Shanahan's teams for some reason don't perform necessarily at their best level.

[Brian D]

I mean, they are so beat up. But still though, to let the Texans have like 400 yards of offense, no Nico Collins and I think he was throwing to three Iowa State guys. Just a bunch of young receivers. And it's like that. That was IR eye opening. Colin, I'm just wondering. Teams don't punt games, but there were a couple games Sunday that felt like, ah, we're, we're not locked in. We're going to let this one go. Do you think this is just a blip or the Niners in trouble?

[Colin Cowherd]

Go look at that. You know you had the Niners winning the division. I did not. And I did not for the exact reason that's transpired, which is they're old, expensive and brittle And. And when old teams get hurt, it takes them longer to recover. Young teams like Seattle or Green Bay can get banged up. Two weeks later, the guy's playing. So who do the Niners play next? Keep your eye on that one.

[Brian D]

New York Giants, go ahead. I double dog dare you to take Jackson dart with him without Cam Scaboo. By the way, Giants fans, I did try to get Scaboo in the show. The grossly broken ankle, he's done for the year. The Giants are unwatchable. I think Brian D. Is coaching for his job here in the next couple weeks. Colin, I know you disagree. You like the dart combo.

[Colin Cowherd]

Have to fly all the way cross country to face a team that just got humiliated. All right.

[Brian D]

Yeah, well, we'll see what they got. Final story. Collins to the NBA. I listen, I had to get this one in your guy. Austin Reeves, with one of the great performances we've seen in the early season. 51 points, Colin. No Luca, no LeBron. Just a heavy dose of Austin Reaves. 51, 11 and 9.

[Colin Cowherd]

What a performance.

[Brian D]

Strangely, you were quiet on social media when Reaves was cooking. Yeah, I didn't know if you just wanted to just to wait to do.

[Colin Cowherd]

It on the show. I mean, Sacramento is known for such a. Such a rigid defense.

[Brian D]

All right, anyways, here's Austin Reaves talking about the night of his career.

[Colin Cowherd]

Especially on a night where you don't have Luka, you don't have Brown, you don't have Jackson. Like, you know, you got to go out there and be big for the team. That went in my head thinking you got to go score 50. It was do whatever you can do to help the team win.

[Brian D]

How about this? Efficiency. You love the word efficiency.

[Colin Cowherd]

Love it.

[Brian D]

51 points on 22 shots. Oh, it's glorious.

[Colin Cowherd]

Holly Westbrook here, by the way.

[John Harbaugh]

Who?

[Colin Cowherd]

Russell Westbrook.

[Brian D]

Yeah, and the non factor irrelevant. Came off the bench maybe a dozen points. And Austin Reeves, 51. You know, I know you like Cooper flag and some of these other hot, young, shiny new objects. Just keep an eye on Austin Reeves. Yeah. If it. If it ends with LeBron this season, can Reeves be the two and they get in like some other good players?

[Colin Cowherd]

No, I've been on this for years. He is on a championship team, he's a four. On a good playoff team, he's a three. Remember that Minnesota series? You want to see that again?

[Brian D]

How many times old against Anthony Edwards. Yes, he undeniable.

[Colin Cowherd]

I wasn't the only person he struggled against. J. Mac with the news.

[J. Mac]

Well, that's the News. And thanks for stopping by the herd lie news.

[Colin Cowherd]

For the record, Austin Reeves isn't necessarily a great fit with Luca because Luca needs the ball. Austin needs the ball. So LeBron needs the ball. If I was the Lakers, I would move Austin Reeves trade deadline. He can be maximized somewhere else much more effectively. That's not a knock on Austin Reeves. He's really good with the ball in his hands. Luca, Skinny Luka should have the ball in his hands. I said this before the season started. I said it's going to be a problem. LeBron's much better with ball than off ball. Skinny Luka, get him the ball and get out of the way. So I think Austin Reaves. There's too much redundancy when LeBron gets back. LeBron needs ball, Luca needs ball. I would get somebody who's more off ball. That's my take. And Austin Reaves, I mean, I'm on the Lakers last night. I'm like, loving it. I want everybody in the world to see this guy. Hey, that guy. There are teams in the league that need somebody like as a number two with the ball. Lakers don't. And here's the other thing. Not only are international players the best five players in the NBA, they're the best five players by a mile. I mean, there's nobody else like Wemby. There's no domestic player like Wemby. There's no domestic player like Luca. Forget SGA and Giannis, Skinny Luca. There's no comp in the States. Wemby. There's no comp on the earth. But I think Austin Reeves has value. But I think it's a redundancy issue with the Lakers. He is really good with the ball in his hands. So there you go. It's the Herd.

[J. Mac]

Be sure to catch live editions of the Herd, weekdays at noon Eastern, 9am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, FS1 and the iHeartRadio app.

[Dan Morgan Host]

I've got Dan Morgan here on the pod.

[Colin Cowherd]

Say hi, Dan.

[Dan Morgan]

Hey, how's it going today?

[Dan Morgan Host]

It's going good, man. Tell us who you are and what you do.

[Dan Morgan]

I'm Dan Morgan. I'm an attorney and a managing partner. Partner at Morgan and Morgan, which is America's largest injury law firm.

[Dan Morgan Host]

That's pretty awesome. Why do you guys think you win so many cases?

[Dan Morgan]

The insurance companies and other companies that we go against know that we're going to take it to the end, that we believe in the case. So we fight for every dollar, and we're not afraid to go that extra mile for our clients.

[Dan Morgan Host]

Are insurance companies like actually afraid of you guys?

[Dan Morgan]

We don't bluff, we take it to trial and we are not strangers of getting very very very large verdicts.

[Colin Cowherd]

Awesome.

[Dan Morgan Host]

So how does someone get in contact with Morgan and Morgan what would I do if I got into an accident?

[Dan Morgan]

Probably the easiest way is dialing pound law. That's £529 from your cell phone. Our call center is always waiting to take your call. 247365 wow.

[Dan Morgan Host]

Dan Morgan from Morgan & Morgan, America's largest injury law firm. Thanks for coming by the show.

[Dan Morgan]

Thanks for having me. Visit forthepeople.com for an office near you.

[Colin Cowherd]

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[Brian D]

Tonight it's game three of the World Series as the scene shifts to LA where Vlad Jr and the Blue Jays take on Shohei Otani and the Dodgers. Game three of the World Series coverage begins tonight at 7pm Eastern, 4 Pacific on Fox.

[Colin Cowherd]

I'll take the Dodgers. Glass now is pitched 13 and a third innings in the postseason. Given up one earn run. His stuff is nasty, but like Snell, you know, he's a guy that had some injuries in his career. They didn't pitch him a ton necessarily during the regular season. He has got filthy stuff. So Toronto is a handful. Series is 1 1. Jay's had a nine run inning in game one, but Yoshi shut him down. Listen, great pitching beats great hitting. I'll take the Dodgers and glass now.

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[Colin Cowherd]

For the record, let me just throw this out there. I don't want this to be lost about the whole Bo Knicks thing. Like I love Bo Nixon. A lot of people in the league I talked to were very hot and cold on him. Didn't think he had a good enough arm. I don't think that's a problem. And I also think guys arms get stronger. Aaron Rodgers at Cal was not Aaron Rodgers with the packers. His arm got stronger. So Bo Nix since the start of last season, for all the critics of Bo Nix first in the NFL, completions on third down. Third down is a big boy down. That's for the grownups. That's like the Drew Brees down. That's the Brady down. That's the Mahomes down. First in the NFL, completions on third down. Also top four in the league in red zone touchdowns is some of Sean Payton. Yes, some of it is Sean Payton. Some of my homes greatness in the red zone is Andy Reid. Some of Brady, Josh McDaniels like yes, of course. But Matt Hasselbeck earlier today on what he sees from Bo Nix, what Bo.

[Matt Hasselbeck]

Nix is so great at. And a lot of people you know, and I would say every coach I ever had would say, hey quarterbacks, you make so much money because of what we expect you to do. On third down, red zone in two minute. And that's where Bo Nix to me has been outstanding. Some people like, oh, he's streaky. Yeah. Guess what? When he's, when he's on fire, he's on fire. Similar. I don't want to say it, but similar to Drew Brees and a little bit Unstoppable. Like the defense. I don't know what you do differently. And this, this tandem with Sean Payton, like, it's, it's legit. Are they a Super bowl contender? Yeah. If they can come out of their division, if they could win that division, they can win the Super Bowl.

[Colin Cowherd]

Yeah, it's, you know, I think guys especially want to be right. And so if they didn't think Bo Nix would be good, they're not interested in getting it right. They want to be right. And so a lot of people that didn't like Bo Nix, especially guys, they're not, they're not going to admit it. Well, it's the receivers. Ah, Sean Payton, the dude 18 under, it's pretty surgical. It's pretty special. He will uncork an ugly one. He had an early interception against Dallas. That was brutal. He's young. Year two, it's October, but I mean, he is, people struggle to get past him being, you know, he, what was he, the sixth quarterback taken or fifth quarterback? People just can't get past that. I said in that quarterback draft class, J.J. mcCarthy was the one I didn't get. I got Drake, I got Caleb, I got Jaden, I got Panicked. I, I, I was a big Bo Knicks guy. And there's no getting around it. He's outstanding. I want to say this again, is that for the last probably seven or eight years, I was very critical of the Lakers. I didn't think they had a very strong ownership group. Then they brought in the Dodgers, who already owned a part. The Dodgers owner came in and bought the Lakers. And so it's a whole new ball game. My feeling on the Lakers is totally different. Ballgame money's not a factor. They'll be run like the Dodgers, which is vision long term. But one of the things last night that's really been highlighted, they have said in 2026 they want to go big game hunting. The opposite of big game hunting is signing Austin Reaves to an extension at 40 million a year. That's the opposite. He's a number three or a number four. He's a very good player. There are three teams in this league who are good to pretty good. And they need somebody that can have their ball in their hands and initiate offense. The Rockets, the Celtics and Miami. I would call all three and find somebody that can be an athletic wing. LeBron needs the ball. Luca needs the ball. You do not need another guy who's an average defender who needs the ball. LeBron at this point needs the ball. Average defender. Luka's entire career really needs the ball. Average defender. Austin Reeves is your third guy. Austin gives you the effort defensively. Not a great defensive player. He tries and he's a good athlete, but it's just redundancy. And the old Laker ownership I think would have been afraid to pull the trigger. If I'm running the Lakers, I love what Austin Reeves did last night. I'd go to your social, I'd put it on for three days. If you can move Austin Reaves to like the Celtics or like the Rockets or Miami, a team that needs somebody to initiate the offense and get somebody that is off ball. Because the Lakers are not a good rim protector. I mean, even deandre Ayton's athletic. Not a very good defensive player. Reeves isn't a very good defensive player. Luke is not a very good defensive player. LeBron at this point is not a very good defensive player. Redundancy. Your best players are all offensive guys. Move Austin Reaves, he's a good player on this team. You've got him. Just better versions. So through three games, the Lakers have already shown you a little bit of what they are, which is a bad defensive team. They're a bottom 10 defensive team. You got four guys who are much better on the offensive end than the defensive end. What are you doing? So Austin Reaves, you move them to a team that needs offense and get an athletic, you know, like a Nas Reed guy, like energy, defense, toughness, size, that's what you need. You don't need another guy that needs the ball in their hands and can't make a stop.

[Brian D]

So, you know, Colin, you sound a lot like the pundits. After the Dallas Mavericks traded for Kyrie to partner Kyrie with Luca, they went to the Finals, Colin. So I, I think Austin Reeves is going to be just fine alongside Luca. The only way they're moving him is if Giannis is coming to the Lakers. That's the only way. I don't know that Milwaukee would be interested in Reeves. He would be a fan favorite. Very Midwest flavor, given his background. But I'm not giving up Austin Reefs.

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