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The Herd with Colin Cowherd
THE HERD - Hour 2 - Where Colin was right and wrong, Caleb Williams is looking like he's what the Bears needed at QB, Albert Breer
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Colin Cowherd
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Fox Sports Radio Announcer
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Colin Cowherd
Christmas right around the corner. Live in Chicago, it's the Herd. Wherever you may be, however you may be listening, the playoff picture we've got clarity. Denver's for real. The Bears are for real. Packers probably trending the other way. New England still fine, but we all knew with New England kind of still in a rebuild. Second half yesterday banged up O line sort of proved it. But we do it every Monday at this time. We take swings. I'm wrong often. And here we go where Colin was right. I said all off season and I've said for the last month, I think the Chiefs are in a rebuild, not just a retool. Next year they're 44 million over the cap. They got shut out in the second half. Isaiah Pacheco was their leading rusher at 21 yards. I don't think they're talented enough. I think they need to address the O line, the D line, the running back room, the tight end room. I had them as a wild card team and yeah, they've had some close losses, but there was no question watching yesterday. This is not a team that's just, you know, a player or two away.
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Fox Sports Radio Announcer
Where Colin was wrong.
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Colin Cowherd
You know, I've always said Dan Campbell builds a great culture. I don't consider him a scheme guy, but since he's taken over the play calling, he's been great. Detroit's number two in total offense, number one in yards per play. He has unlocked Jameson Williams, he's done a great job. Dan Campbell is a much better coach calling plays than I would have imagined. That offense is not the problem. Brian Branch, losing him in the back end, that really hurts because you got to win some shootouts in the NFC the way the quarterbacks are developing. But I I've been a little hard on Dan Campbell. I think he's done a great job taking over play calling where Colin was right. All my concerns With Brian Schottenheimer have surfaced with extra time to prepare that offensive performance. 2 for 12 on third down. Just not good enough. 6, 7 and 1. They're now a bad red zone team, 18th in the league. And again, that's with Dak. That's with a run game. That's with elite wide receivers. They're just not a consistent team. I do think the future is brighter than many believe. But all the things we worried about, getting out, coached in big spots, situationally being mid.
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Fox Sports Radio Announcer
They've all surfaced where Colin was wrong.
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Colin Cowherd
I was okay with Pete Carroll being hired with the Raiders. I thought he would steady the ship. It's been a disaster. He's lost his fastball. 75 total yards against Philadelphia. Come on, that's. That's brutal. So his last couple years in Seattle, it didn't feel like he was current. I don't know what the Raiders do. Well, they are. They are the worst team in the NFL. And there's nothing you can point to outside of Max Crosby and Brock Bowers that you like.
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Fox Sports Radio Announcer
Where Colin was right.
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Colin Cowherd
My guy Bo Nicks outplayed Jordan Love. Four tutties, four different receivers, four for four in the red zone. Listen, I said it when he was at Oregon. I watched them live twice. Super athletic. Got a Steve Young quality. Hard to get your arms around, never get sacked. Very creative, very deceptive. Not a great deep ball thrower, though. He was 8 for 12 yesterday. Downfield.
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Fox Sports Radio Announcer
Where Colin was wrong.
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Colin Cowherd
Well, the Jags are a franchise I never trust, but they've won five straight. You can't run on them. Number one, run defense, Trevor Lawrence. In the last several weeks, 10 touchdowns, no picks in three games. And they're doing that without Travis Hunter, their star rookie. So maybe Trevor Lawrence has always had talent. The Jags have always had talent. But Liam Cohen, they got him. An offensive guy who had some great moments with Baker Mayfield. Jacksonville has drafted at the top of rounds for a long time. There's no question they've got talent. And now it's all coming together where Colin was, right. I said Friday. Is it possible Philip Rivers will be fine? He was never athletic anyway. I mean, I watched Kirk Cousins last Thursday. He was money. My prediction was he never relied on athleticism. Seattle's going to have a conservative game plan. It's very possible. He's okay. I'll be honest. His arm didn't have a ton of juice. But I thought Steichen, with the screens underneath stuff, did a great job calling the game. And overall, when you don't rely on athleticism. It makes it easier as you age.
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Fox Sports Radio Announcer
Where Colin was right.
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Colin Cowherd
CJ Stroud, I keep hearing, wow, sophomore slump. Listen, dude throws one of the prettiest balls in the league. If you give him a little time, he's money. I will defend CJ Stroud. He wants to throw from the pocket. He's good enough moving Nico Collison, he's got his number one receiver in the last since week four, 13 touchdowns, three picks with a very inconsistent run game. They've been, you know, hit and miss. They've had injuries around him. CJ Stroud, I'll defend him. That a franchise quarterback, he'll run if he has to, but he's developed a really keen sense of the pocket. Where Colin was right, where Colin was wrong. And with that Albert BREAR Covering the NFL since 2005, the. You know, it's funny. Sean Payton text me the last two years. He said, you guys can pay attention to the other quarterbacks. They're fine. He goes, I've got a really good, really good quarterback. I thought last yesterday was a moment where you could no longer deny he's a special player.
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Podcast Advertiser/Promoter
He was.
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Colin Cowherd
He's a special player and you can't deny it. Is that fair?
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Albert Breer
Yeah. I mean, he wasn't perfect. There were a couple of, I think, opportunities for the packers to create turnovers. But I think part of that is that the Broncos becoming more comfortable in taking the leash off of Bo Nix and letting him go out there and be a little bit more of a playmaker. And to me, it was the downfield throws over and over and over again yesterday where they were able to get a really good packers defense. And there was one in particular, Colin, that I think reflected Sean Payton's level of trust in his quarterback. Fourth and two, nine minutes left.
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Colin Cowherd
Yep.
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Albert Breer
And the Broncos are up by a point. If they don't pick that up, the complexion of the entire game changes. And you would think with a year, second year quarterback in that spot, maybe you run the ball, maybe you run a little flat route or you roll them out and give them the option to run or throw. Instead, Sean Payton drops Bo Nicks back and takes a shot downfield to Cortland Sutton. Bo Nix hits that, the Broncos wind up scoring a touchdown. That gives them the separation they need. To me in that spot on a fourth and two, Sean Payton's confidence to put the ball in Bo Nix's hands, but potentially home field advantage throughout the playoffs on the line, I think tells you a lot about where they are right now. Just as Far as the progression of Bonix's growth and their trust in him. And the Broncos now look like, I mean again, two more wins and the AFC road goes through Denver. That's a very difficult place to play.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah.
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Albert Breer
So yeah, I mean the Broncos have a lot of things going right now and the quarterback is very clearly a big part of it.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah, even Belichick and Brady didn't want to go to Denver. It's just a tough place to play with the altitude. So I'm watching. You know, I said it's hard to develop a quarterback and win games simultaneously. That's what Ben Johnson's done. There was a time in week three or four I sat on the air. You could watch Ben Johnson's body language. I think he's the best first time hire since Sean McVeigh. Let's go back to like week three and four in your sourcing where it was a little choppy early. Ben was getting frustrated at press conferences. We forget that. Right.
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Albert Breer
They, I'm going to put this delicately. They didn't teach him how to play quarterback. Like that's really what it was, you know, and like they felt like we got to figure out like how much we can throw on to this kid, how much this kid can handle because they felt like he was smart and he had the aptitude to do it. But they got a player who they felt like was really raw. And one thing I really respect about the way Ben handled this, Colin was going back to the summer and I think you and I talked about it a bunch. Right. Like where they were feeding him through a fire hose and Ben didn't really care if it didn't look good in the summer. It was, we're going to overload him with information now and then we'll scale it back as we build the offense and we'll lean into what he's good at and then we'll build him back up from there. And there are a lot of coaches I think in their first training camp in a new place that would be afraid to do something like that. Right. Especially in a market like Chicago where a player's performance and practice is going to be digested in a different way on a day to day basis. Ben didn't care. Ben thought Caleb could handle it. And I think what you're seeing now and then I just went back and looked at a bunch of that game against the Browns yesterday. He's calm in the pocket. There was a play in the first quarter he made where he sat back there, looked at his first Read looked at his second Read, let Luther Burden come open over the middle and just delivered a dart. And it was just one of those plays where you see how calm and cool he was in the pocket where he wouldn't have made that throw two months ago. And again, it's like a little thing that you don't notice if you're not looking for it, but it's happening over and over and over again. And so I think through playing good defensive football, through building a really, really difficult to deal with run game, they've bought Caleb Williams time to develop. And now you're seeing the approach they took with Caleb Williams over the summer started to pay off, and that Caleb has seen a lot now, both in practice and in games, and is benefiting from it and how calm he looks back there.
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Colin Cowherd
So I, I will stand by this and die on this hill. I love Brett Veach, but I, I said it earlier. It. It's Kansas City is like Marvel Comics. They're trying to develop new characters and they're struggling. They're like, like Jones and Mahomes and, and. And Travis Kelce. And it's like, you got to keep.
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Albert Breer
Going back to, like, Iron man, right?
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah. It's like they're trying to develop new guys and they can'. Rice and Worthy's more of a gadget guy. And I kind of look at him. I think it's a bit more of a rebuild than a retool. I'm looking at the Rams 8th, 9th best player. It could be Nate Landman. I look at their fourth best, and it's Travis Kelsey who may retire. I watched yesterday. Herbert was better than Mahomes. I think the Chargers have more elite players. What are you on their future in Kansas City?
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Albert Breer
You know, we always make the parallel to Brady, right. Because of the heights that Mahomes has reached early in his career. And I, I sort of think that you can learn some stuff from what happened when Brady tore his acl, which, by the way, like, interestingly enough, was almost at the same juncture of, of, of of Brady's career as has happened with Mahomes. Now look back, right? Like, so, 2008, Brady goes down. Matt Castle wins 11 games. That causes the Patriots to say, okay, we're going to lean in and try to win with this aging roster one more time. It doesn't work in 2009. Then the beginning of 2010, Belichick goes in and literally tears all sorts of evidence of any championship football off the walls and says, we're starting over again. And then they really got on a heater from a draft perspective, right? That, that draft in 2010. Devin McCourty, Rob Gronkowski, Aaron Hernandez, they get Nate Solder, the left tackle. The year after that, the year after that, Chandler Jones, Dante Hightower, and they're off and running. And so I think that's sort of the juncture the Chiefs are at now, where this is going to give them a organic opportunity to look big picture at where they're at, right? We'll see the extent of the ligament damage beyond just the ACL and what that means for Pat in 2026. But I think it's incumbent on the Chiefs now to look at it and say this isn't just about 26, this is about 27 and moving forward and the next iteration of the Chiefs. And so where does George Carloftis fit into that? Where does Nick Bolton fit into that? Where does Trent McDuffie fit into that? Those guys are going to be kind of the veteran players on the next iteration, right? How do we put ourselves in position to draft really well over the next few years? And when do we separate from Travis Kelsey and Chris Jones? Because at this point, you're looking at and saying, well, if Mahomes is only out there for half the 26 season or three quarters of the 26 season, do we want to have the older guys around? So there are all these big picture questions I think that the Chiefs probably had to answer anyway, that now they're organically going to be faced with because of the injury their quarterback has. And so again, like, I think this is, actually provides an opportunity for them the same way. Maybe Brady's ACL injury gave the Patriots some clarity and, and really, I think, served as the first step towards them building the second, second version of their dynasty.
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Colin Cowherd
So listen, Josh Allen is 4 no this year when he has to score 30 points. When they score 30, they're 4 no. Because he has to. And yesterday, another example, he goes into the phone booth, comes out with a cape, saves the citizens of Buffalo. Like, I've seen this. I want to see it in the playoffs. I just look at him and I think to myself, this is not a conference championship team. They don't have the defense of Houston. I don't, you know, I don't think they have the coaching of New England. I thought it was a great win for them. But New England still, let's be honest, they're kind of still a little bit of a rebuild, and they don't have the depth on the O line right now that if they're missing a starter, their backups just aren't, aren't going to be great in those spots. So I looked at it yesterday and everybody's like, oh, big win for Buffalo. That doesn't look like a defense that can end up in a conference championship. And I, and I listen, it's not Cincinnati where I felt Joe Burrow almost feels like nobody's here to help me. But I, you can only ask Josh Allen to be John Elway. Plus plus plus so many times before the star quarterback says I need a new guy. Right?
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Albert Breer
Yeah. I think there's a psychological element though, to what Josh Allen has done to that Buffalo team. I, I, he's the best player in the league right now. Right. Like, so I think he provides you with a certain level of belief that allows you to fix things as the game goes on. Does that make sense? So like, like I look at it and I have some of the numbers written down here. The patriots rushed for 177 yards in the first half. In the second half they rushed for just 69 and 65 of those yards were on one play. Drake May only threw for 47 yards in the, in the second half. The Bills were able to run the ball more effectively in the second half.
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Colin Cowherd
That happen?
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Albert Breer
Well, it's because they aren't panicking when they're down 21 to nothing because they have the best player in the planet. And it gives the coaches and the players the leeway to fix things on the fly, which I think has really empowered them and almost become the identity of the team. And like look like you look at the last five weeks, right? Four wins in the last five weeks. They play against the Bucks, they came from behind, finished on a 23 to 6 run. Steelers, they fell behind, finished on a 23 to nothing run. Against the Bengals. Last week they fell behind, they finished on a 21 to 6 run. And then yesterday against the Patriots in a raucous environment, Patriots are ready to take the AFC east from go up 21 to nothing. They finished that game on a 35 to 7 run. It's, it's sort of become who the Bills are and they are going to get some pieces back. And that's what's interesting about this. Ed Oliver could come back in the playoffs. Best defensive player. They haven't had him for most of the year. Terrell Bernard going to be back at linebacker. On offense, does Brandon Cooks get a little bit more comfortable? Dalton Kincaid's healthy now. I'm with you. Like, I'm not sure they're good enough right now to run the table in the playoffs and win it all. But I think this is a team that's getting better and I think Allen's allowed them and bought them time to get better. And so this may look like a different team five or six weeks from now than it does now, because I think it looks like a different team now than it did a month ago.
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Colin Cowherd
By the way, nine field goals. It's the most entertaining nine field goal game, I would say, in league history. I could not take my eyes off of Philip Rivers. I know I said last week, I.
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Albert Breer
Watched carrying the flag for all of us out there, Colin.
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Colin Cowherd
I mean, listen, you play them for the rest of the year, they're not, you know, they're obviously Houston and Jacksonville are in a different space right now. This is the final Philip Rivers run right there. This is just really fun. It's eye candy. It's a great time. But in, in, in a few weeks, it'll be over, right?
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Albert Breer
Yeah, I would think so. I mean, look at that. What I like about this story more than anything else, I think it's happening for really pure reasons. There's no ulterior motive here. This is. I, you know, Philip actually retired five years ago because he wanted to coach his, his son and his dad coached him and he wanted to coach his son. And his son was getting close to high school age and so he wanted to go and coach. And the reason that this opportunity made sense for him is actually because his high school season was over, you know, and so he had always, over the last couple of years, kept it in his head that if this ever happened, like you remember, if you go back years and years and years ago, you remember this happened with Josh McCown and the Bears, I think, in like 2013 or something. And he always had it in his head, like, if one of two teams calls, I've got to listen as a Chargers and the Colts, right? Like, if one or two teams calls, like, I want to at least be in shape where I can think about this sort of thing. And so he kept him, he kept throwing, you know, he kept himself young by being around the high school kids and, and working with some of the young kids, getting ready for the draft. Riley Leonard was one of the kids he worked with last year, actually Bo Nix and Drake May the year before that. And I just think it's a really good story from that for that reason. And man, like, you know, you think about the long field goals in this one, right? A 60 yarder and a 56 yarder, which is another topic for another day, and how a game is won that way. But if that 60 yarder stands up as the game winner, we're all talking about the back shoulder throw that he made to Alec Pierce at the end of that game. Put them in field goal range, which to me, like, that's a rhythm throw, that's a timing throw. How crazy is it, Colin, that this guy, after a five year layoff. Layoff, is able to make that throw in a high leverage situation against one of, like, what I think is one of the three or four best teams in the league? It's a really remarkable story and I hope everybody can just take it for that. You know what I mean? Like, I hope everybody can just take this as a good story about a guy who loves football that much, who is coaching his kid, whose season ended and now, you know, one of his best friends in all of football calls him because they have a catastrophic quarterback injury situation. He steps in and he's able to play another month of football. I think it's a really good story, no matter how it turns out. But, yeah, I'd say this is probably it for him. I'd be surprised if he were back in any capacity next year.
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Colin Cowherd
Finally, Dolphins tonight. So they got rid of their gm. And I think I've always said, Albert, I don't like interim coaches. They go on a winning streak and suddenly everybody's like, let's give him the job. It's like, no, keep Mike McDaniel in. He's a good guy. He's a clever offensive guy. They've gone on a winning streak. They've played well in cold football. If they beat Pittsburgh tonight and win all but maybe one of the remaining games, is there a chance is that. Because now they're physical. That was always the knock. They're running the ball.
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Albert Breer
Yeah.
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Colin Cowherd
Can Mike. Can he save his job?
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Albert Breer
Yes. Yes. And like, you know, it's actually interesting when you go back to Halloween, when they fired their longtime general manager, Chris Greer. The question I asked was, what's the barometer now for Mike McDaniel? And I think what the front office wanted to see was like, is this team locked in? Does he still have control of the locker room? Because that was the biggest question. Right. Like early in the season it was, is his coaching style still working? Does he still have command of the locker room? And, you know, I think if you look at what Mike did, is he. He leaned even further into who he is as a coach? They're running the ball really, really well, like you said, they're more physical now. They've taken the ball out of, to his hands to some degree. And I think it's just Mike saying screw it. Like I'm going to do what I believe is best for this football team to win games on a week to week basis based on how we're built right now with no Tyree Kill with a quarterback who's somewhat limited. And I think what you've seen now is like a real look how Mike was able to reel all this in even with a different personality and put the team in position to win. And it's actually interesting if you go back to when this first happened again, like one of the, that, that thing I heard about him having control of locker room. Well, one of the things that kept Steve Ross from pulling the plug on McDaniel back then was he kept hearing from people, this guy's going to be a great head coach in his second, when he gets his second chance. And I think Ross sort of thought to himself, well, why would we fire him then? Why don't we give him a second chance now and see how he does. And so I think giving him that opportunity has given him some new life. And my guess would be, this is just a guess. My guess would be they hire a new general manager, they pair him with their cap guy who now is in a, in a little bit of an elevated role in Brandon Shore. And then Mike McDaniel goes into 2026 under evaluation and let's see what you got. Tua, that's the 26 is the last year of guaranteed money in his contract. So they aren't married to tua beyond 2026. And it kind of gives them the new, a new general manager a chance to come in, work with Brandon Shore again, a guy who's very close to ownership there, work under the president Tom Garfinkel and with Ross and his son in law. And you get to see now what that new setup looks like and how Mike McDaniel fits into it. You go forward from there and I think you got to give Ross some credit here. Having patience with McDaniel when he got rid of the general manager certainly seems to have paid off.
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Colin Cowherd
Albert Brier on a Monday, Monday morning quarterback. Thanks, Albert, as always.
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Albert Breer
All right, thanks, Colin.
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Colin Cowherd
You know, a lot of these coaches, Brandon Staley got a little stubborn. You know, certain coaches like, this is who I am, this is what I am. I'm going to be right. You got to give the Miami guy credit. He takes a step back and says, you know what, we got to be a little bit more physical. We can't rely on tua. The weather is now lousy and they look like a different team. They have been running the football. I actually think it's going to be a really competitive game. They got into Pittsburgh, I think it was like Saturday and they had a late night practice. They're all playing in the snow and it's like. Exactly. That's what you got to do.
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Colin Cowherd
Welcome back. I'll tell you, New York football is an absolute hazmat spill. It's awful. The coordinators for the LA teams, I mean Jesse Minter and Chris Shula are better than the head coaches in New York. They're just. I mean, New York can't get football right. I mean Aaron Glenn, he fires Steve Wilkes. Well, Steve Wilkes was a bounce around the NFL guy. Like this is the New York Jets. Like Steve Wilkes was the best candidate. He'd been bounced out of San Francisco, like, they just don't know what they're doing. It's bad. Ownership's not very good. Front offices aren't great. The coaches are over their skis. New York football. Chicago's got it going now. I mean, there's just a lot of the big cities in the NFL, like, finally got it all going. New York has two gigantic tire fires. They can't keep Jackson Dart out of the blue tent. Aaron Glenn, I mean, the defense, I thought he was a defensive coach. It just awful. J. Mack with the news.
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Albert Breer
No, no, no, no.
- [32:12]
Colin Cowherd
Turn on the news.
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Fox Sports Radio Announcer
This is the third line news.
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Guest Analyst
I'm such an egomaniac that anytime you take shots at the Jets, I feel personally aggrieved, like, you're just dogging me out. It is bad. We are down bad. You know who's not right now is the Pittsburgh Steelers. They are on top of the world, leading the division, and I had to triple check this stat. Are you ready for this? Mike Tomlin hosts the Dolphins tonight. Monday Night football. He is 22 and oh, at home on Monday Night Football. That is unbelievable. There's a lot of noise about Tomlin's future in Pittsburgh. Aaron Rodgers, all he's doing is praising Mike Tomlin.
- [32:49]
Mike Tomlin
Every team is looking for that special sauce of a coach who can lead and be consistent and, and, you know, be involved, understand how to delegate, lead when it needs to be done. And, you know, I have a unique perspective and guys who played elsewhere have a unique perspective coming in here, but the guys that are here should understand how special it is to have a guy like that leading the team.
- [33:13]
Colin Cowherd
Yeah, I kind of feel like all Steeler seasons look the same. I love what's happening with Miami right now. I'd probably take, I think it's a great story. Usually what I don't like is interim coaches. I like when you're like, no, we're going to stay with this coach. And very rarely do they turn it around. Pittsburgh, I don't know what I'm getting because week to week, I mean, Aaron will be fine, but week to week, kind of, you get a different team.
- [33:41]
Guest Analyst
So I'm surprised to hear you saying nice things about Mike McDaniel. Boy, when they were down bad at like one in five, they looked, you were hammering that guy. You like him now, huh?
- [33:52]
Colin Cowherd
Well, I like that somebody said, looked in the mirror, own their stuff, and course corrected. I, I, I'm not into rigid people. He obviously said, let's stop this charade. Leaning on to him. We're going to be Physical and run the football. They have. They look different.
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Guest Analyst
Han is. Looks like he's a go. And the young kid, Jalen Wright has some pop. This was three and a half last week. You and I got three and a half. It's at three now. I don't love it as much. TJ Watt officially out, and it will be under 20 degrees tonight. But I'm sure you saw over the weekend, Miami went early to Pittsburgh, and I think Friday night or Saturday night, they were in the stadium with the snow on the ground practicing.
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Colin Cowherd
Yep.
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Guest Analyst
Mike McDaniel, he's all grown up.
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Guest Analyst
We like that. All right, let's move on to. Let's stay in the AFC north and go to Joe Burrow. Listen, I think this is going to be the. The topic du jour of the off season. Forget fixing the Chiefs. What do we do with Joe Burrow? And I know Bengals fans say there's no way we're losing him. Colin, you texted me yesterday. They look like they quit, and I'm a thousand percent behind you. It's interesting that the team. I mean, Jamar Chase, had a bad early drop. The team would quit a few days after Burrow made some I'm not having fun react comments.
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Josh Allen
This is.
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Guest Analyst
This is like, you think the Chiefs are a big rebuild. One of the Bengals have nothing.
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Colin Cowherd
One of the linebackers for the Ravens was quoted after the game saying they weren't ready to play first series. I mean, classic Bengals. It snowed in Cincinnati and the NFL owner wouldn't clear the seats, which goes against NFL policy. They're just. I mean, it's. I feel I was thinking about this yesterday. I mean, I always say, Chase, great management, not money. You can make money if you're talented in any field. Joe Burrow is essentially trapped. Trapped with a coach, trapped with a battle line, trapped with this ownership. He's trapped. There's nothing he can do. I mean, what are you gonna do, Demand a trade?
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Albert Breer
Well, we'll.
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Guest Analyst
We'll speculate in a sec, but here is Burrow officially after the Bengals were eliminated from playoff contention. Here he is talking to the media.
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Albert Breer
We haven't been a good football team. You know, bad football. Bad football teams do losing things.
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Albert Breer
You know, if you're. If you're wanting to compete for championships and be in the playoffs, then.
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Mike Tomlin
Number.
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Albert Breer
One, your quarterback has to play better.
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Josh Allen
Than I did today.
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Albert Breer
Okay?
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Guest Analyst
So over the weekend, and I don't usually take a lot of social media stuff at all, somebody said to me, J. Mac asked Colin this, what if the Bears and Ben Johnson said, hey, can we get Joe Burrow for Caleb Williams and a couple draft picks? No, I know that sounds crazy, but hold on, hold on. The Bengals are cheap. Caleb Williams is on his rookie deal and he ain't getting no Patrick Mahomes Josh Allen in the world.
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Colin Cowherd
The Bears are on fire. Burrow can't stay healthy.
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Guest Analyst
Well, he fits that offense. Read and react, release quickly. None of this backyard football stuff.
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Colin Cowherd
No, you're. You're not going to do that. I mean, people are into Caleb Williams. Turn on the talk radio on this town, people. You want a guy that's had three surgeries and is super expensive or a guy in the cheap for the next four years. Like, it's here. You're not getting out of that game. Okay.
- [37:07]
Guest Analyst
I thought you would take that in a heartbeat.
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Colin Cowherd
Oh, God, no. Caleb Williams right now is more dynamic, not as accurate, but he's. That throw to DJ Moore yesterday was one of the throws of the year.
- [37:19]
Guest Analyst
That was a luck box. Come on. That should have been picked off by two different guys. Wait a minute. Really? You don't think Ben Johnson would be like, yes, I'll take that instantly.
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Colin Cowherd
No. Wow.
- [37:29]
Guest Analyst
Okay. Okay. I'm shocked. All right, let's move to the final story. Colin, and it's Shadur Sanders. You got an up close look at him in Chicago yesterday.
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Colin Cowherd
Not good.
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Guest Analyst
Yeah, not great. That's a perfect summation. Here is a pass to Jerry Judy. Boy, Jerry Judy can't catch a cold. Oh, my gosh. Jalen Johnson with a great pick there. The other two picks were not as good as for Shadour. He threw three in the game. Here he is talking about afterward the interception to Judy.
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Colin Cowherd
It is what it is. I'm not, I'm not one that, you know, ever kick somebody down when you're down. You know, like, he understands that's a big play and I'm sure he's hard on himself. So it's no need for me to be extra and do that. Yeah, listen, that was a bad spot. They're outmanned. Green Bay and Chicago are vying for the division lead in Detroit. So you had a very motivated Chicago Bears team with a lot more quality players. But it is interesting when you see Shador and Caleb on the field at the same time. There's the A plus prospect and to be prospects, they don't look the same.
- [38:42]
Guest Analyst
You know, our colleague Chris Broussard, obviously we love him. Yeah, he thought Shador would be better than Caleb. Like, come on, like Shador, marginal starter at this Stage and this idea that he could open camp as their number one quarterback. Stop it, folks. That's definitely not happening under any circumstances. And for people saying there's. Can you believe they're still bagging on Kevin Stefanski? Colin Browns fans, I think they're. Well, my kids say dulu. They're just. They're losing their mind here. They think Shador is the answer and we just got to get rid of Stefanski and everything will be fine. You watch that game like I. I don't see it, man.
- [39:19]
Colin Cowherd
Go ahead, fire Stefanski. He'll get hired in Cincinnati and beat you for the next 10 years.
- [39:23]
Albert Breer
He wants that job.
- [39:24]
Guest Analyst
By the way. Is. Is that even an attractive job?
- [39:26]
Colin Cowherd
Well, I mean, if you're a coordinator and you get seven times the salary, it's. And you get Joe Burrow and you'll.
- [39:32]
Guest Analyst
Be back on the street in 18 months with a lot more money in your pocket.
- [39:35]
Colin Cowherd
No, because the. The Bengals do not fire coaches. No, no.
- [39:37]
Guest Analyst
This is the Browns, though. The Browns are. They're impetuous. They're moving off guys instantly.
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- [39:43]
Colin Cowherd
J. Mac of the news.
- [39:45]
Fox Sports Radio Announcer
Well, that's the news and thanks for stopping by the herd. Lie news.
- [39:50]
Colin Cowherd
Did you. For the record, OKC's big winning streak got snapped last night by Wendy, who came off the bench. Wemby was unbelievable. The spurs won that game. So OKC is. I said this last week. The NBA paralyzed by dynasties and tanking. Well, they've got one in okc potentially by the end of this year, at least. Baseball's version. The Dodgers are interesting. I mean, I've never seen a team in the NBA in my life as great and dominant as okc. And unless you're a die hard, none of the casuals care. None care. So you can be. You can be like anti dynasty. They happen in skiing, soccer, tennis, golf, college football, pro football, women's basketball. Get over this fear of dynasties. The NBA probably has another. What would you rather have, a Shaq and Kobe dynasty, A big trade with Orlando or a KD dynasty, A big, you know, a big move by the warriors or this one? Dynasties are going to happen. You just hope they're more interesting than the Tim Duncan dynasty, which. Which felt kind of sleepy. But they're going to happen in sports because people are not even.
- [41:01]
Guest Analyst
By the way, did you. Did you watch the end of that game? That was a hell of a basketball gamer.
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Colin Cowherd
Are winning. They're good by 17 a game.
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Guest Analyst
Yeah, I don't. I think the spurs match up great with them and San Antonio Wembanyama late in that game. Hey, speaking of dynasties, doesn't Wembanyama have the potential to have one? They're not trading Castle. They're not trading Harper. They look really good, man. I nick spurs tomorrow night. NBA cup final lock in cowherd.
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Albert Breer
All.
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Colin Cowherd
Mmm.
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Colin Cowherd
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Colin Cowherd
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Guest Analyst
We got a Big East Big Ten battle on Fox College hoops Friday as Villanova takes on Wisconsin. It all tips off Friday night eight eastern on Fox.
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Colin Cowherd
So you know yesterday I really do think between brable and Josh McDaniels you have a really elite staff. You know it just they out schemed the Bill staff so badly they jumped out to a 21 nothing lead and they beat him earlier this year in Buffalo. And then Josh Allen, I mean his December numbers, he steps into a phone booth outcome Superman in December 2068% completion percentage, 68 total touchdowns, 9 interceptions. This is in December since 2020. This is what he does. And I mean it's, it's, we joke about Superman but if, if this keeps going, DC Comics will sue for infringement. This, this guy is just absolutely the best football player on the planet and they're four and oh when they've scored 30 plus points they have to regularly they get out schemed and you know I just, I watch this and I'm like I want to see it in the playoffs. I know what they are now. Now here's Josh after another come from behind shootout win.
- [46:34]
Josh Allen
It's the love that that each man in that locker room has for each other. The willingness to put Their body on the line in order to not let their teammates down. And I think that's, that's the driving force. We're not out of it. You know, we're going to continue to fight one play at a time. No matter what the score is. If it's in the third quarter, it's in the fourth quarter, whatever it is, you know, if we've got a chance and we got the ball, you know, we, we feel like we like our chances.
- [46:58]
Colin Cowherd
They've only had two receivers yesterday catch a pass. Very Allen and tight end dependent. The AFC is not as good at the top, but you have no Mahomes in the playoffs, no burrow. Herbert's got a horrible offensive line. The Texans are not full of a lot of offensive firepower. So I think all of us are looking at it thinking, can one player and a couple of nice pieces around him get to a Super Bowl? This is the year to do it. This is the year to get to a Super Bowl. Whoever comes out of the NFC I think is the better team. But Denver yesterday proving they belong. So Buffalo's going to have to go somewhere. See, Jacksonville can run the ball. That's not good for Buffalo. New England Travion Henderson had a couple of huge runs yesterday. Why I think a lot of it is Buffalo doesn't defend the run particularly well. Now, Albert Brear took the optimistic angle on this. Bill's team going forward.
- [48:03]
Albert Breer
They aren't panicking when they're down 21 to nothing because they have the best player in the planet. And it gives the coaches and the players the leeway to fix things on the fly, which I think has really empowered them and almost become the identity of the team. I'm not sure they're good enough right now to run the table in the playoffs and win it all. But I think this is a team that's getting better and I think Allen's allowed them and bought them time to get better. And so this may look like a different team five or six weeks from now than it does now, because I think it looks like a different team now than it did a month ago.
- [48:35]
Colin Cowherd
And they do get Ed Oliver back, who on that defensive front can be kind of a splash player, but he's their best player. But just watching this thing yesterday and I'm thinking to myself, when they lead 21 nothing and 24 to 7, I'm like, new England's still in a rebuild and they're missing two starters in the left side of their offensive line. This, this can't be happening. You know, it's funny, I was thinking about this when this game went on. Who would you really be disappointed in if they got knocked out first game in the playoffs? And even though I think the Bears have more good players in Denver certainly does, I think it tells you where we are with Josh Allen this would be the team. I think with a limited roster we would all go, okay, you got to replace the coach. We wouldn't do that in Chicago, we wouldn't do that in Denver, we wouldn't do that in Jacksonville, we wouldn't do that in New England, we wouldn't do that with Harbaugh, we wouldn't do it with d' Amico, Ryan's. But Buffalo despite because that's they've wasted earlier opportunities when they had a better roster and they weren't paying Josh. So if you look at those AFC teams, what is the one team that if they lost their first game you would say time for a coaching change. And that's why A you got to strike when the iron's hot and B you have to take advantage of those tiny windows in the NFL when you have a great quarterback and a really good roster. I don't think Buffalo does so I mean Travion Henderson, couple of huge runs they escaped yesterday. If you go back to 2020 and look at Josh Allen's numbers in December, I mean he's got so much horsepower. I mean look at those numbers. Sorry to the radio audience but this is in the worst weather. This is in Buffalo. He doesn't play in a dome. That's a lot of games at 21 degrees and windy. He can't wait for that new stadium. That cuts down on that. I'll say I my feeling is Denver and the Houston Texans today I would take in the AFC championship.
- [50:39]
Guest Analyst
Did you see that matchup? Hypothetically. Right now be Texans at Patriots in the first round. Who you got in that one?
- [50:46]
Colin Cowherd
Let me sleep on it.
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Guest Analyst
Well remember first year quarterbacks in the playoff or first time quarterbacks in the playoffs often struggle. Drake May Caleb Williams Careful.
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