David Pollack (3:30)

And he was in the semifinal in overtime against the Irish. By the way, how did you go an hour without mentioning USC's romp over Michigan? What happened? Lincoln Riley's waiting for the, for the props.

Colin Cowherd (3:42)

I will say they push Michigan around. That was. That is what you have to. Now they have to go on the road against Notre Dame where they're like an eight point dog and should be. I don't know if they're built to beat Notre Dame. Weather is getting a little chilly in the Midwest. But they put, they pushed Michigan around. It wasn't that they won, it was how they won. They won in the trenches with a third string walk on running back King Miller was unbelievable. Here we go. Colin right. Colin wrong. On a Monday where Colin was right. Well, when the Eagles started four. No, I said they got a coaching issue. You can't tell me they're beat up and injured. A lot of teams are beat up and injured. They had a players only meeting and AJ Brown sort of denied it. I just, I don't, I don't buy the Philadelphia Eagles. They are, they're in trouble right now. They're 28th in yards per rush, 25th in the NFL in total offense. Even when they were winning. I said this isn't going to last. This is the drip, drip, drip. And last week we saw the faucet burst where Colin was wrong firing James Franklin. I don't know. I don't get it. Apparently insiders at Penn State are saying it was untenable. But I will tell you he'd won 10 plus games in three straight seasons. Are you telling me if he beats UCLA at the end of the game, you'd keep him? It feels very reactionary to me. Again, they're a play away from beating Notre Dame last year. What are they finishing fifth in the country. But this is the world we live in. Get rid of the coach if there's any questions. And I just don't like the way it looks. I was wrong. I would have Never guessed this. Where Colin was right, the Pittsburgh oh, mvp, Baker Mayfield. Yep. A couple weeks ago I said, I think he's mvp. He's never been this good. And again, players get better, players get worse. They regress. Look what's happened to Justin Field. Baker is better now. He was good early. He didn't play with his confidence. He's got nothing to work with. Bucky Irving, Chris Godwin, Mike Evans, a booker got hurt. I said two, three weeks ago, let's not kid ourselves here. This is what an MVP looks like. And I said Cleveland, it was a poor fit. It's a bitter fan base and an angry media poking him in the ribs. Tampa's chill, Todd Bowles high, IQ high eq, opening all the doors for him every weekend more and more. Baker's the MVP of this league. Where Colin was wrong. Aaron Rodgers and the Steelers 4 1. Are they going to wrap this division up in four to five weeks? Aaron Right now, smartly is getting rid of the ball from snap to getting rid of the ball faster than he has in his entire career. And I gotta tell you, with the size of his targets in Pittsburgh, I think it's smart. There's no wow plays. He's not doing that. He's doing the back shoulder. He's accurate. He's completing 73%. This is an offense for the last seven years and this is not the best Aaron. This is old Aaron. This is an offense. In the last three weeks he's got a 112 passer rating. Now I know he's, he's got an advantage. That defense is gobbling up backup quarterbacks. But it looks good to me. Where Colin was right. I said, new England, watch out. They're going to be the double the win total team in the NFL. This will be my fourth year in a row if I hit this. After the Raiders loss, I said, slow down. Between free agents and draft picks, they're, they're starting like a dozen new guys. Don't freak out when they lost a Pittsburgh. I said, let it play out. No team is starting more new bodies. Vrabel's brilliant guy. Drake May is really good. And this, this is one of those things where not all opening losses are the same. Detroit's obviously a good team. They got housed in the first game New England lost to the Raiders. I kept saying, don't worry, they'll figure a way. They're building a culture. And we were right. Where Collin was wrong. I had Dante Moore as the number one pick last week. He got outplayed by Fernando Mendoza and it wasn't particularly close. Couple of picks, minus 27 yards rushing. Didn't see the field particularly well. Sacked six times. Listen, Indiana's really good. Indiana is a really good football team and really well coached. But Dante Moore, it did not look great. Let's just be honest about this. It was a really, really bad game. Considering the quality of the staff and the quality of Oregon talent, this was a stinker. Where Colin was right. Well, I said the Dolphins, I don't trust the culture. And the head coach here was Tua after losing to the LA Chargers. Listen to this.

Matt Hasselbeck (8:46)

I think it starts with the leadership in helping articulate that for the guys. And then what we're expecting out of the guys, right? We're expecting this. Are we getting that? Are we not getting that? We have guys showing up to player only meetings late. Guys not showing up to player only meeting. Like there's a lot that goes into that. It's a lot of. It's a lot of things of that nature that we got to get cleaned up.

Colin Cowherd (9:12)

Yeah, it's a little late. Three picks had the game one. TUA basically saying is, yeah, we don't have a culture here of accountability. Not good. Where Colin was right. Let's wrap it up with this. The Mariners take a 10 lead in the American League Championship Series. I said two weeks ago, despite having the number 15 payroll, they are a more balanced even team than the Yankees. They can defend. They have good starting pitching right now. Opposing hitters in the playoffs are hitting a buck 83 on Mariners pitching. Mendoza is a great closer. They can hit for power station to station baseball. They can do whatever you want. It's a very complete team. You know, Cal Raleigh's their star. There's no question they're not as star studded as a team like the Yankees, but the Yankees don't do a lot well outside of hit home runs. Mariners, I believe, will make the World Series and they'll face the brewers when they get there. Colin Wright. Colin wrong on a Monday. And let's go to Matt Hasselbeck. Three Pro Bowls, 18 years in the NFL. Love him on a Monday. I want to start with the Dolphins, which is not the sexiest team. But when Tua calls out his coach, it's like, okay, what are we doing here? Like this thing has gone sideways. What do you make? I mean, it's obviously they're going to make big changes. They could change the gm, the coach.

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Colin Cowherd (10:30)

Let's just wrap a bow on what is wrong with Miami.

Matt Hasselbeck (10:34)

Well, I Thought he called out himself. Really? I mean, you're the franchise quarterback and you're saying that players don't come to play players only meetings. Like, that's an indictment on you. Like, no offense. Sometimes when you're not like an alpha personality as a quarterback, you kind of need an alpha head coach. But if you're kind of like a soft spoken, hey, I'm not really that guy, then I don't know if you can have a head coach that really isn't that guy either. I'm just thinking about it like that. That to me was as bad as it gets at the podium. That's not the time, it's not the place. Listen, no one likes a players only meeting, but sometimes they need to happen. And it's kind of a tell the truth Monday situation usually. And you air it all out and it's uncomfortable. But that was just a bad look all the way around. I'm embarrassed for him. I'm sure he regrets it. And that's a team that needs some leadership to step up. And it doesn't have to be the guy that gets to call the plays in the huddle. If it's gotta be somebody else, then it's gotta be somebody else. But that was a bad look.

Colin Cowherd (11:33)

Yeah. So, you know, I said, when the Kansas City Chiefs were, you know, a couple of weeks ago, we looked at him and we said, you know, folks, I don't want to hear about the Ravens injuries. It looks different. Turn the sound on your TV down. Watch the speed. They. They're not letting people over the top. And I watched last night and no penalties, no turnovers in one punt. Like, you know what it felt like, man, you probably played on a veteran team at one point. That was one of those where the veterans are like, guys, we have to play our cleanest game of the season. I don't know. I mean, do you see an I? They look different than four weeks ago, but I didn't play in the sport. What do you see?

Matt Hasselbeck (12:13)

Well, I think there's a confidence that comes with having a good offensive line. I think they feel really great about this offensive line. There's also a confidence with the teams that are still playing with their starting quarterback. And then if you're starting quarterbacks, one of the greatest quarterbacks to ever play the game ever. And then you've got the best offensive play caller, designer in our era and Andy Reid, like, literally, how are you going to. Like, that gives me confidence as a player. That gives me confidence as a locker room and as a defense like, you got Mahomes over here running, like, speed, option. Like, like he's Vince Young or something. Like, you got to defend it all. And so listen, they're as. They're getting healthy. They get Worthy back, they're getting Rice back. You can tell that this is a team. There's no panic. There's no players, only meetings there. You know, they're. They're three and three. The sky's not falling. You know, they're like, hey, we're going to. We're going to go one and O this week. You know, probably like a game out. We're good. Like, we're absolutely good. And I. And I can promise you their last week was tough. They might. Maybe they did have to have players speak up, but I don't think this is the kind of team that needs coaches to leave the room when players want to air out some stuff that they got to say. And so, like, I just think the culture is there, the continuity has been there. And you have. You have alphas at the head coach, at the quarterback, at the tight end, at D line, all over. Good team, good franchise, top to bottom.

Colin Cowherd (13:26)

Yeah. So, you know, it'd be one thing if Baker Mayfield's reboot in his career was based on, like, one coach or one coordinator. The fact is, the last two coordinators under him left to get head coaching jobs. Some quarterbacks get coordinators fired. He's getting them hired. And so I would like to give other people credit, but a lot of this is just Baker's will. Did you ever think Baker Mayfield would be this good in the NFL?

Matt Hasselbeck (13:56)

Thought he was a risky first overall pick, but no, he has an it factor. And everyone said that from. From. From the get go. You know, they were a little concerned it was too brash. Is he too Brett Favre? But no, he has exceeded, I think everybody's expectations. This. I mean, his response to the MVP thing was great. We don't need to crown an MVP after week six. But listen, he'd be the guy. Like, he'd absolutely be the guy. The best thing you could say about a quarterback is he makes the guys around him better. He's got, you know, all exciting weapons are out. He's throwing. He threw two touchdowns yesterday to guys. That was their first touchdown ever. Like, he has put. Literally put this team on his back. The personality that he has is showing up on his team, and I believe that's contagious. I really think it's contagious. And this is a team that you don't want to Face Tampa is the real deal, and it's because of Baker.

Colin Cowherd (14:43)

Yeah. And there is value in winning these close games time and time again. You can't tell me there's not some redeem. It's like a baseball team that keeps coming back and winning. I think that stuff always has a redeemable quality.

Matt Hasselbeck (14:56)

Yeah. And if I could just add one other thing, he is. He has become such a great deep ball thrower. You know, a lot of times quarterbacks kind of play it safe. His eyes are way downfield, the third level of the defense, and he's like, you know what? I don't care if it's a little bit late. I'm throwing it deep down in the middle of my guys. I'm giving you a chance. And I think that's been one of the most dangerous parts about his game.

Colin Cowherd (15:18)

So let's talk about his draft class in Sam Darnold. So I think what's impressive about Sam Darnold, the Minnesota team he was on had a veteran left tackle and a veteran running back and a veteran wide receiver. And Justin Jefferson, he goes to Seattle and it's kids. It's the second youngest offense. And we were all like, boy, jsn, is that a number one guy? Explain to me now, maybe jsn, super mature. Explain to me how JSN and Darnold are this good together this quickly. You only have so much practice time. How does it look like they've been together for eight years?

Matt Hasselbeck (15:52)

Well, I think they're bought into the system. I mean, this is the same system that he threw 35 touchdowns in last year. And I think there's, like, with the experience now, there's a lot of wisdom. He says, you know, he can come into JSN and be like, hey, listen, this is how, you know, Justin Jefferson did it. You know, what do you think? And. And Clint Kubiak is, you know, really coming from that same Kyle Shanahan tree. But I think you also empower a guy when you give him the contract that they gave Sam Darnold and you say, hey, you're the guy. And I think he's taken ownership of that and he's playing great football, I think, on both sides of the ball. Listen, Seattle's defense, this is a team that they've got length, they've got speed, they're very young, they've got a young head coach. You know, when. When you're given. When your defense is creating seven sacks, that's going to help your offense as well. So I don't think this is a finished product team. I mean, there's. There's actually areas where this offense can really improve. Third down would be a great example. They got to improve. But I think what Darnold has done such an amazing job of is under center play action, turn your back to the defense, which marries up with the run game that they're trying to establish. And jsn, literally, I think I've been saying this for a long time. I think he's the most underrated wide receiver in the entire NFL.

Colin Cowherd (17:02)

So a lot of people didn't watch the Saints or Patriots, but I remember during camp, Mike Vrabel coming out, and it was one of those quotes that's kind of memorable. He's like, you know, Drake's got to understand leadership is seven days a week. It's not a great practice. You got to be a leader seven days a week. And it was kind of like, I really like this kid, but he's. He's young. And I always said, I think it's so weird. You're 24 years old. You walk into a locker room with rich dudes that are 31. It's like, all right, you're the parent. It's like, that is hard. But the last three or four weeks, you tell me, I. It looks like Drake May is as good as any quarterback in his class. He's not Jaden Daniels yet, but I don't know. It feels special to me.

Matt Hasselbeck (17:48)

No, he's. He's not Jaden Daniels, but he outplayed Jaden Daniels in those joint practices when Vrabel said that, and everyone was trying to crown him as better than Jaden Daniels, and Vrabel was like, hey, in a Bill Parcells kind of way, was like, hey, pump the brakes. But. But no. Drake May has everyone in New England excited, mostly because of the huge win at Buffalo against Josh Allen. But I. What. I love what he's doing and what Josh McDaniels is doing is they run so many different option routes. You know, think about Josh Daniels and all the different guys that ran option routes through, you know, when he was successful. Drake has. Has an experience doing that at unc. He's got a great feel for Diggs and Pop Douglas and all the different guys. So I believe that's one of the harder things for quarterbacks, is to really get on the same page quick with the guys on option routes. The other thing that Drake has done a great job is before he uses his legs to scramble, he's using the running back checkdown game again. A Josh McDaniels staple. So, you know, is. Is he ready to be crowned, like, you know, the best quarterback in the AFC east, or is he the next Tom Brady? Like, no, but the excitement is super real. And I think Vrabel understands, having been teammates with Tom Brady, have been around great quarterbacks. I think vrabel's in Josh McDaniels. It's like a nice little tag team for. For. For this quarterback. And don't be surprised, literally, do not be surprised if the Patriots are a playoff team this year. Great call by you, Colin.

Colin Cowherd (19:07)

You.

Matt Hasselbeck (19:07)

Colin was right.

Colin Cowherd (19:08)

Well, you know, get a couple of them. I. And by the way, I remind everybody when I hit two times a year on being right, I make sure you're.

Matt Hasselbeck (19:16)

Like a broken clock. You're like a broken clock. You're right twice a day, guaranteed.

Colin Cowherd (19:20)

Absolutely. So there are some guys, and I'm always kind of amazed by this quality. There are, and I saw it last year with Jaden Daniels. Some guys just see the field and some quarterbacks don't. And Herbert yesterday is under duress and he's running around, he's switching hands with the ball. He throws it out to McConkey and I'm like, some of this is innate. I don't think you can coach some of this quarterback stuff. Herbert yesterday, three, backup O lineman. No, Number one receiver. Number three running back. How do you view. I mean, he's obviously physically impressive, but I just. Sometimes he makes throws and I.

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Colin Cowherd (19:57)

I don't know. Is it coaching? Is it scheme? What do you make of Herbert?

Matt Hasselbeck (20:01)

Well, yeah, you can coach that stuff. I mean, you know, literally, those are ball control, ball in the pocket drills, escapability drills. But you need the tangibles. Listen, I feel like I talk about intangibles a lot with the quarterback, but you also need the tangibles. You get around Justin Herbert. He's every bit of franchise quarterback. I mean, he looks like Drew Bledsoe, he moves like Brett Favre. Like, he's really incredible. And he does it at the moment, at the clutch moments. Now, here's another guy you mentioned. He's on his third string left tackle. Will they make a trade until they make a trade? He's going to have to throw with great anticipation or he's going to have to really be superman like you saw in this game, put the team on his back. But you're not going to be playing the Miami Dolphins every week. And so this is a. This is a situation where I think he's going to need a Little bit of help. I mean, you look at Lamar Jackson, you look, he needed help. He's one of the game's great quarterbacks. Justin Herbert's going to need help as well.

Colin Cowherd (20:58)

Finally. Aaron Rodgers in his whole career has never let go of the ball this quickly. And I'd make the argument Pittsburgh strange. They have three tight ends that are giants. One of them is the biggest tight end in the league. Let's get a left tackle. Then they have DK Metcalf. And this is not necessarily a throw the ball over the top team. It is a. We've got really large 6 foot 6 men who are strong. Get the ball to him in matchups, let them break some tackles. And he's getting crushed in all these analytic grading systems that he's having a bad year. And I'm like, no, I kind of get it. They don't have a Xavier worthy. That's not that they don't have these lad McConkey's. They have six, seven receivers and tight ends. What do you make of Aaron? Just get spitting that thing out. Is he worried about getting sacked? Is it just that simple?

Matt Hasselbeck (21:47)

He's smart. Listen, when I was starting, I think I started eight or nine games in my 40s. I got the ball out quick too. I wasn't like consciously trying to do it, but I think maybe there is something to like. Man, I'm good. I don't need to be. I don't need to show I'm John Wayne. I don't need to take these hits. No, here's what, here's what they're doing. He's getting the ball out really quick. But Arthur Smith and Aaron Rodgers, they're moving the launch point. So the quarterback is Almost always like 7 and a half or 9 and a half yards right behind the center. But not Aaron Rodgers, not this year. A lot of their big plays are coming where the launch point is moving. Doesn't have to move too far. It can be in the B gap, it could be in the C gap. Maybe it's all the way outside the hash, but that's buying time within the design of the play. And even if the defense covers it, that's where Aaron Rodgers has his back, shoulder throws, double moves, all the different stuff. So I think this is a really, really intentional game plan by Arthur Smith. And it might be an unintentional thing with Aaron Rodgers. Like, it's all good, man. I can play point guard. I don't need to be at the shooting forward. Yeah, and that's great. That's what he really probably should have been doing with the jets, he's doing it great. This is a nice fit. I think everyone was wondering how the fit would be. But just notice the next time you watch the Steelers where that launch point is, where he's letting the ball go from, it's a. It makes it difficult on the defense and it protects a guy in his 40s. I'm a fan. I think they're doing great.

Colin Cowherd (23:09)

Yeah, it's more Chris Paul than Steph Curry. I'm. I can hit the jumper, but I'm going to get this ball out because they have some unique body types. I mean, Washington is he six, seven and a half. I mean, they've got massive. By the way, you were. Staff just said this. You were five and three as a starter in your 40s, that's probably like.

Matt Hasselbeck (23:32)

Two and banged up, you know, that was a. You know, I do think like as a quarterback sometimes, you know, sometimes when you're younger you don't know enough. But I'm sure Aaron Rodgers, he knows it all and he's like, man, I don't, I don't trust this situation. You know, we got a tight end blocking backside on the defensive end. Like this ball's coming out quick. Like he's been through the fire. He's learned the mistakes. I, I know that was true for me.

Colin Cowherd (23:55)

Great seeing you, Matt, as always.

David Pollack (23:57)

Thanks.

Matt Hasselbeck (23:58)

See you.

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Colin Cowherd (24:00)

I love that. 20 minutes with Matt Hasselbeck and right and wrong. One of my favorite 20 minutes of the week. Bruce Feldman's going to join us next hour. Albert Brier. The trade deadline is. Is creeping up. The Rams could use a corner. The Chargers could use another tackle, swing guy that can play either way. Joe Alt. It will come back. Philadelphia may need a new offensive coordinator. I'm not sure the trade deadline helps for that. And Kansas City doesn't need anything but Rasheed Rice. Sorry, J. Mac. And he's right around the corner. Hey, just gotta call it. As I see it last night. That looks like a good football team.

David Pollack (24:37)

Just stop it. What about the Niners? Now the Niners are interesting, right? Bosa out.

Colin Cowherd (24:42)

Warner out.

David Pollack (24:43)

Do you make a play to add a linebacker? Do you make a play to add a Quinn and Williams from the jets who Salah knows well? Do you do something? Because the Niners schedule still leaves the door open for them to make a deep playoff run. And remember, the offense will have Ayuk, presumably Jennings, Pierce, all Brock Purdy. Like they're going to have pieces.

Colin Cowherd (25:02)

I think the Niners are a week to week team. If two of their receivers came back next week, I'd say no. I mean with the Niners, we just watch their practice reports every week. I mean, so I think, I mean they do have some offensive firepower coming back. But I mean listen, it's an ad moments in that game that that loss was not on. Mac Jones. I mean they had their moments, but Tampa's really good right now and they're punishing you over the top if you have, if you try to. You bring too much heat on Baker, he'll burn you. They'll go right at you over the top. And as Matt said, Baker's thrown the best deep ball of his Life.

David Pollack (25:37)

He has eight touchdown passes of 20 or more air yards. That's double the second most quarterback in the league. Who's your guy?

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Colin Cowherd (29:20)

There is so much going on. Let's not waste any time. It's J. Mac with the news.

Matt Hasselbeck (29:27)

No, no, no, no.

Colin Cowherd (29:28)

Turn on the news. This is the Herdline news.

David Pollack (29:31)

All right, Colin, let's start with college football. Indiana taking down Oregon was a major upset. Your boy, Dante Moore, he just. His offensive line let him down. I think that was the big story. I didn't think he was terrible. I thought the offensive line was total trash. But the real story here is Kurt Signetti. This guy has hit the Big Ten like a comet, and he talked about the difference between last year's Hoosiers and this year's Hoosiers. After the big win last year, I.

Colin Cowherd (30:00)

Was the way I was because I Thought I needed to be taking over this program, kind of lead the charge the way I was out there a little bit. I knew that early on in December. Okay. I thought we established credibility last season. Our team was in a good place. The most important thing to me was our mindset going into this game that we believed, expected, prepared to make it happen and could handle the ups and downs of the game without flinching, shown frustration, anxiety. Yeah, I mean, I. There. There's an argument. Ohio State's the best team in the country and Indiana second. Texas A and M is pretty good, but I. I don't know. I. That's it. That's. I mean, last year, Ohio State won the Natty. They went to Oregon and they. They couldn't pull this off. Dante Moore was on fire. They. I mean, they got. After Dante Moore got sacked six times. And I don't think you leave this job to go to Penn State. Penn State right now is a bit of a hot mess. Bloomington's a great place to live. It's one of the best college towns.

David Pollack (31:03)

Bloomington.

Colin Cowherd (31:03)

Have you been?

David Pollack (31:04)

I've never been there.

Colin Cowherd (31:04)

Oh, yeah, great. Top 10 college town. It's a great place. Middle of the country, you know, weather's not ideal. It's not ideal in Penn State if you've got the nil money. His staff is being well compensated. And by the way, Indiana again, now that they're winning, watch what this Oregon win does for recruiting. Watch what it does. You may find another couple million bucks in the nil off a win like this.

David Pollack (31:28)

Yeah, well, first of all, sorry to back up a little. Miami Hurricanes, you forgot about them. They're certainly one of the top.

Colin Cowherd (31:34)

They're very good.

David Pollack (31:34)

But Indiana is right there knocking on the door. I do need to ask you, if you're the Hoosiers and you see all these coaches getting run around the country. Oregon State fired their coach. I mean, we're in early October. Colin, I wonder, do you go to Signetti and say, hey, bro, we know the big boys are coming after you. We want to lock you up. We want to go from 8 million a year to. I don't. What do they boost him to? 12? I mean, Colin, in two years, he's made Indiana football relevant. I couldn't tell you one Indiana player, you know, five, 10 years ago, could you? I mean, I don't remember when they were good at football.

Colin Cowherd (32:07)

You know, I. Again, Indiana's in the Big Ten. Penn State's in the Big Ten now. Penn State has more history, probably has a little bit more money. They got a huge Adidas deal. Yeah, but I. I don't know. I think. I mean, he's in his 50s. He may not want to bounce around anymore.

David Pollack (32:23)

You know what I mean? He's 64. He's getting up there in 18.

Colin Cowherd (32:26)

Oh, is he 64 years old?

David Pollack (32:28)

He was. You know, I graduated from JMU. He was at JMU and then left for Indiana and brought a ton of his players.

Colin Cowherd (32:34)

Yeah.

David Pollack (32:35)

So it's like Belichick's just grabbing guys in the portal. Signetti got specific guys, his own, that fit his system. So it was a seamless transition. I think he's gonna. Listen. We got a Michigan guy on staff who's like, listen, I would take him in a heartbeat over Sharon Moore, who is. He was the interim guy. Remember you with your whole interim thing, you know, Harbaugh kind of hand picked him. I don't know if Sharon Moore is long for Michigan. Does Signetti get a bite from. From the Wolverines? The dude is killing it right now. We'd agree on that, right?

Colin Cowherd (33:06)

Oh, yeah. I mean, winning at Austin just doesn't happen. People don't go there and win. Ohio State couldn't go there and win it. It's one of the loudest places. I don't know. I. I don't know if I would. I. I don't think I'd move. I. I don't want to go into that Penn State mess. I don't know.

David Pollack (33:24)

By the way, you remember last week I told you the biggest college football better I know was on Indiana +7? And I was reluctant. I did pull the trigger, but some people out there, I did not think that game was going to be close. Colin. That was one of the biggest surprises of the season. Because we know Oregon's good.

Colin Cowherd (33:39)

Well, because USC throttling Michigan was not a surprise. It should be known.

David Pollack (33:44)

All right, let's move on. Colin. To your boy. Baker Mayfield. Man, Tampa Bay 5 1. Looking like a legit contender in the NFC. One of my favorite plays was after this Baker scramble. Just elusive stuff. Almost like a page out of Justin Herbert's book. He throws a bomb touchdown to Tez Johnson. Young fella who catches it like a fingertip touchdown catch. This was spectacular.

Colin Cowherd (34:06)

He was an Oregon kid.

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Then he. Tez flipped, and after the game, he was like. I heard MVP chants, and then a teammate woke him up and was like, bro, it's not about you.

Colin Cowherd (34:17)

David, the city has rallied around you. This fan base loves you. When you had that degree and the chance mvp, start rating it, make you Feel it's week six, so got.

David Pollack (34:30)

Got a big one next week, so it's.

Colin Cowherd (34:31)

It's awesome to have the support, don't get me wrong, but we're. We're just getting started a mature Baker Mayfield.

David Pollack (34:40)

He's a different dude now. Remember what he used to say?

Colin Cowherd (34:43)

He doesn't like that. He doesn't like when you say that.

David Pollack (34:45)

No, no, he's different.

Matt Hasselbeck (34:45)

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David Pollack (34:46)

Colin. He used to favorite my tweets when he was coming out of Oklahoma where I was like, I don't know if this guy's going to make it as a pro. He would. It wasn't like his team either. That was him. He would, he would look on social media and exact revenge on those people. He's grown up a lot now. I will just point out, you know, when you have a good weekend, you start looking at the card bucks. At Lions this week, Tampa Bay riding high. They might be number one in the herd hierarchy.

Colin Cowherd (35:11)

Detroit, you feel on the Lions, Detroit's not going to have their safety Branch. Baker lives on the deep ball. Yes.

David Pollack (35:19)

You taking Tampa, huh?

Colin Cowherd (35:21)

Just a heads up, I'm not betting against Baker right now. He is on a. He is on a Cal Raleigh streak. I'm not betting against him. Smart.

David Pollack (35:29)

I've lost some money betting against Baker this season. Final story. Colin, let's move to your other favorite quarterback, Sammy D. Slinging. Sammy Darnold, I think I texted you yesterday on the JSN touchdown. I mean, look at this strike in stride. I mean, Darnold is clicking on all cylinders. Here's Sam Darnold after dispatching the Jags 20 to 12 last year.

Matt Hasselbeck (35:52)

They never played us in single high safety, which I'm not sure I've ever seen in a game before. And, you know, they kind of took advantage of me being a little greedy out there. And I told myself I was going to, you know, take what they give me and if they give me a check down, I'm going to take it today. A great team and, you know, we're really excited about, you know, kind of where we're at as a team. And you know, the, the result of.

Colin Cowherd (36:16)

This one, yeah, Seattle is they got some dudes and they're. They're a young team. Green Bay kind of young team. Sometimes they're not. I mean, they should have. They should have closed this game down about an hour before they did.

David Pollack (36:27)

Right.

Colin Cowherd (36:28)

But it was my second favorite bet of the week. My first is tonight, Washington, but I see Jacksonville 10 penalties, turnovers. I mean, Jacksonville coming off that Kansas City win unique knew they were going to step back. You knew they wouldn't be able to handle it's not about how do you handle losing, it's how do you handle success in Jacksonville did not play particularly well.

David Pollack (36:49)

So you love Seattle. You tried to talk me into it and I said three guys in the secondary are down. I can't do it. I'm an idiot for that. Let me just point out that one of the craziest stats I saw from Sunday the Seattle Seahawks had 17 quarterback hits. 17 Colin. That's more than Justin Fields got hit and he was sacked nine times. So I don't know what happened with the Jags offensive line, but if Seattle's D line plays like that and they get their guys in the secondary back, you know we got four three teams that are four and two in the NFC West. I mean we would agree San Fran is a little behind due to the injuries. Yes, we think the Rams now Puka it sounds like he's going to miss this week in London. So we I think the Rams take maybe a step is Seattle going to win the division and Cowherd's going to have call another one in the off season. Right?

Colin Cowherd (37:36)

It's Seattle is young and the good news about being young is when you get banged up players get healthy faster. So it's all I know. I always use to turn turn the audio down when you watch a game. Kansas City looks fast. Kansas City just looks and Seattle looks too good not to be a playoff team. They look fast. They get after it like them. J Mac with the news well that's the news and thanks for stopping by the Herd lie news well it's official we have a a worst coach team in the league. There is nothing nothing. The jets do well and we'll talk about that the HER live in Chicago today. Be sure to catch live editions of the Herd weekdays at noon Eastern, 9am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, FS1 and the iHeartRadio app introducing your new Dell PC. Powered by the Intel Core Ultra processor, it helps you handle a lot even when your holiday to do list gets to be a lot because it's built with all day battery plus powerful AI features that help you do it all.

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David Pollack (41:28)

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Colin Cowherd (41:46)

Your area only on Fox. There's some interesting ones. Let me Tell you Eagles, Vikings, keep your eye on that. There's a couple interesting lines this weekend.

David Pollack (41:57)

Panthers, Jets, Is that, is that, does that get you excited?

Colin Cowherd (42:00)

Which keep your eye on the Colts and the Chargers.

David Pollack (42:03)

Yes.

Colin Cowherd (42:05)

I'm not even going to give away. I mean, what was I this week? I forgot four. No, keep your eye on that Colts line. Very interesting. So a couple of years ago I said this. NBA players, especially stars, have often spoken out against their coaches. Like, you don't do that in the NFL. But I got two or two or three times kind of calling out Mike McDaniel and I'll get to it in a second. But a member of the jets called out Aaron Glenn, the coach. So what I saw yesterday was bewildering how bad it was. Before half the jets tried a fake punt. Risky given the situation. They convert it and the next play they run like, what are you doing? If you're going to risk that, then go into the two minute offense, what are you doing? And then, you know, Justin Fields. It just doesn't make any sense. They have him, Justin Fields, in the second half. Something happened. He would not let go of the ball. And there were times he had, there were times he had ample time to throw. So Garrett Wilson confronts the coach on the sideline on going for it on the fake punt, and then first play as a running play, like, dude, two minute offense, let's go. Kurt Warner couldn't figure it out. You know, the announcers are bewildered and Garrett Wilson, after the game was upfront about it.

Matt Hasselbeck (43:31)

I just didn't know exactly what the plan was. And once I figured it out, you know, I was disappointed. I'll just say that once we, you know, converted the fourth down, I just thought we were going for the, you know, trying to make the play. And then obviously we get to another fourth down and it's a tough spot to be in. So, you know, in hindsight, I get why they did that. But in the moment I was just like, man, I don't know.

Colin Cowherd (43:54)

Yeah, no, it's so organizationally, think about this. So you pay $40 million, 30 million guaranteed to Justin Fields, who's athletic, but he's regressed badly. That's on the Jets. I mean, Aaron Rodgers leaves the Jets. Look at the year he's having. Justin Fields had a pretty good six game stretch, goes to the Jets. Look what's happened to him. This is the Sam Darnold thing. We can keep blaming the players, but Sam Darnold is a top 10 quarterback in the league now. He looked like he was A bust in New York. Aaron Rodgers looked old in New York. He actually looks good. Justin fields, I said 4 and 2. In Pittsburgh, he looked pretty good. They moved into the bench. Jets were like, okay, we'll pay for it. Everybody stinks in New York. They can't get. They can't get the GM right, they can't get the trades right, they can't get the players right. So I can keep blaming the quarterback, but I mean, I would have gone to Tyrod Taylor in the second half. I would have kicked a field goal to win it. But Justin Fields last year did not look like that. Sam Darnold, watch him now. It didn't look like that. This is an organizational hazmat spill. This is the worst team. Tennessee, I think, has a worse roster. The jets are the worst team. And so what do you do? Do you fire the coach? Well, it's got a very Freddy Kitchens feel to it where it just doesn't feel like some guys are great position coaches, some guys are great coordinators. Not all vice presidents can run the country. A lot of people are VPs. Not all VPs can run the company. That's okay. VP is a great gig. But I. Nothing works for me. The explanations don't work. Garrett Wilson, calling him out. The good news is there's a couple interesting quarterbacks who are going to be available. Dante Moore had a bad weekend. I still think he's really special. But you know, it's funny. Bruce Feldman's going to stop by next hour. And Albert Brear. The trading deadline is coming up. If I'm the Jet, this. The jets need a quarterback. But my question is, after watching Justin Fields, what if they get one with this staff, with this organization, will it matter? I mean, honestly. You're watching Darnold. I'm watching him. Look what. Look what Carolina did to Baker Mayfield and Darnold. So some of these organizations in this sport, they're just not equipped to handle a quarterback. They don't know what they're doing. I mean, it's funny. Baker Mayfield can go to the rams and Sean McVay and have one practice and then engineer a game winning drive. Josh Dobbs goes, I think from Arizona to the vikings and Kevin O', Connell, no practices, throws for 300 yards. I mean, the jets are just not equipped, regardless of who the coach is. Could be Adam Gase, it's Aaron Glitt. They are not equipped to bring along a young quarterback that needs somebody to put their arms around him. They can't do it. The organization's not Equipped to do it. So here's the NFL schedule coming up this weekend. Tonight, I'm going to take Washington over Chicago. I'll take Buffalo off a loss to New England over Atlanta. That's an easy one. I would say this, when you look at this schedule. Yesterday, everybody thought Denver was going to blow out the jets, be very wary of the games that look like blowouts. We all thought Harbaugh was going to flex against Miami. He was furious. This is the time of the year when teams start getting banged up. The weather's going to cool down, quarterback play is going to be different. I live in a part of the country now. It's getting cold and the Jackets are out. So all this seven on seven summer football is over. Can I spend a second on the Bears tonight, J. Mac? Because I think it's a fascinating game. Bears, Washington tonight. So I like Washington for two reasons. Number one, the Bears have not shown an ability to win on the road over the last several years. Here's the second thing. To win on the road. One of the things that's essential in winning on the road is what does your defense do? As they say, defense travels well. The Bears give up the most yards per play in the NFL. Now think about that. So if you. If you give up the most yards per play, what happens? Caleb Williams on the bench, watching. Getting out of rhythm. What have the Bears struggled with? Getting rhythm offensively? It's why I like Washington. Well, okay. Breaking news. The Titans just announced that Brian Callahan has been fired. Wow.

David Pollack (48:28)

Oh, my God. Ahead of the variable revenge game this week, Patriots at Titans, variable revenge spot that lines up to seven.

Colin Cowherd (48:37)

Wow.

David Pollack (48:37)

Callahan toast. So now you gotta find somebody to fit Cam Ward's strengths, huh?

Colin Cowherd (48:43)

Well, the game yesterday, we know the Raiders aren't great. Was not competitive.

Matt Hasselbeck (48:47)

Yeah.

Colin Cowherd (48:47)

So obviously the players. So James Franklin fired yesterday. Ryan Callahan, he's.

David Pollack (48:55)

Well, if you're the Titans, Colin, you're getting ahead of the jets and whoever else may fire the coach. You could hit the ground running with who you want to go after. I'll just say this. You're going to want an offensive coach, obviously. Now, Callahan was. But you've got a young quarterback. You don't want to go hire a defensive guy, do you? I can't imagine that.

Colin Cowherd (49:13)

I mean, they're. I watched it yesterday. They're last in total offense, last on third down. And he's an offensive coach.

David Pollack (49:19)

I mean, they were down Ridley, but I don't think it mattered. You're right. It just doesn't look esthetically pleasing or, you know, remotely good.

Colin Cowherd (49:28)

How about Kirk Signetti?

David Pollack (49:29)

He's not going to the NFL. Come on.

Colin Cowherd (49:32)

I wouldn't upgrade in the Big Ten. I'd take a call from the NFL. I'd go Saturday to Sunday. I'm not going Indiana to Penn State. I'd go Saturday to Sunday. I'd take the call.

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