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The Herd with Colin Cowherd
THE HERD - Hour 2 - Where Colin was right & wrong, breaking down the Patriots offense, looking at the Seahawks defense, Matt Hasselbeck
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Colin Cowherd
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Fox Sports Radio Announcer
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Colin Cowherd
Here we go. It's Monday. Seattle Seahawks super bowl victory Monday. We are live in Los Angeles. It's the herd. Wherever you may be and however you may be listening, Matt Hasselbeck is five minutes away. So, wow, you know, sports is so great. You just never know what you're gonna get in sports. It's just so amazing. My sister didn't even like sports my whole, whole childhood. And then the Seahawks, you know, they. They get the Russell Pete, John Snyder thing, and now she's. I get emojis firing at me. She's all fired up about. I call her after the game last night. She's like, ah, we were setting off fireworks. All going crazy here in Grayland, Washington. All right, here we go. Colin right. Colin wrong. Where? Colin was right. Sam Darnold. 700 yards, five touchdowns, no picks, and a 102 passer rating in the superior NFC playoffs and Super Bowl. I never wavered on Sam because quarterback is about traits. Arm size, mobility, toughness, humility. I always ask people in the league who I respected, and the smart people always said he just needs the right fit. He came into the league at 20 in New York and he just didn't have great college coaching. He just got overwhelmed. Just wait until he gets the right coach. Way to go, Sam.
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Fox Sports Radio Announcer
Where Colin was wrong.
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Colin Cowherd
Seattle dominated the scoreboard more than I thought. I thought it would be close, but Drake May was so ineffective. Some of it is Will Campbell, who will eventually, my guess is get moved inside. But I mean, three, nothing in the turnover department for the Seahawks. They got better quarterback play. I mean it. By the early second quarter, it felt like we had the makings potentially of a blowout and that I knew it was a potential outcome, but it's not the outcome I predicted where Colin was right. I said last week the one thing I was certain about in the Super Bowl, New England would not be able to run the ball. Their offensive line not good enough. They're not dynamic enough. They had 42 yards rushing by running backs. And again, Drake May had a couple of scrambles. That makes it look more dynamic, but they still need to attack the offensive line. In the draft. We had said throughout the course of the playoff run, the Patriots are still a draft away from elevating their tight end group, elevating their offensive line. But I. My concern in the game was, oh, Drake May is going to have to throw it 3435 times or more, and he was 1 in 7 in games in which he did so. That part was kind of predictable.
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Fox Sports Radio Announcer
Where Colin was wrong, I did not.
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Colin Cowherd
Have Christian Gonzalez in my top 10 players in the Super Bowl. I think I had him at 11 or 12. He's phenomenal. He does get banged up a lot. He reminds me of Christian Watson of the Packers. He looks. I mean, he is literally an Adonis with no body fat. He's just a remarkable athlete. And this falls a little behind jsn. But length and speed and timing. That game could have broken open much earlier without that play. On the deep ball is one of the best plays by a defensive back in the entire playoff. Where Colin was right. I said after Seattle lost to the Rams, I said, what team in the league could have four picks and be driving to beat Los Angeles? I said, at that time, after losing to the Rams, Seattle's the best team in the league. They just got to clean their act up. And if they can clean the turnovers up. And all year long, I kept saying, turn the sound down. When you watch the Seahawks, they don't look like anybody else. They were 90 in games with no turnovers. If they didn't get reckless, they always won. We were right on that. Where Colin was wrong, defensive head coaches won the day. McVeigh, Ben Johnson, Kyle Shanahan made the playoffs, but it was Mike McDonald who calls his own plays. It was a very good year for a subset of coaches, defensive guys who have not had a great decade. Vrabel, D', Amico, Ryan's Mike McDonald all had tremendous years. And it was a masterclass yesterday against Drake May, where Colin was right. Devin Witherspoon, to me, is the best corner in football. I had said he's the first or second best player in this game. He led all players on quarterback hits. I remember watching him at Illinois. He was so insanely physical for a corner. Versatile gets to the quarterback. I mean, there's just Patrick Certain at Denver's another one. Christian Gonzalez is great, but you're talking Devin Witherspoon. Seattle doesn't blitz much. And they're like, we'll leave ourselves vulnerable in the back end. Go get him where Colin was right. Well, I said, Matt Stafford should be MVP over Drake May. And the reason isn't stats or analytics. It's because Matt walks to the line and knows the why. And Drake May is still trying to figure out the what. Just see how good that Seahawk defense is. Stafford tore it apart three times. Yes, I know he has Puka. But the New England tight end and wide receiver group is very good. I think they led or second in the NFL in big plays. Stafford is something that Drake may can't possibly be yet at 23 years old. The maturity I said before Matt Stafford has more fourth quarter comeback wins than Drake May has pro starts. I don't want to hear about analytics and starts. They're just different quarterbacks. And that's why as Tom Brady said last week, so many quarterbacks in this league, once they get to 28, 29, look at Sam Darnold. He is a different quarterback than 23 year old Sam Darnold. Completely different. Colin right. Colin wrong. And with that, a very happy man is joining us live. Matt Hasselbeck, a decade with the Seahawks, 18 years in the NFL. Look at that.
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Matt Hasselbeck
I don't know if, I don't know if happy is the right word right now. Colin. Maybe regretful. Should, should have gone to bed earlier, man.
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Colin Cowherd
Hey man, there's one.
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Matt Hasselbeck
I was happy yesterday. I was happy yesterday. I know that for sure. I got a few days to recover. There's going to be a parade in Seattle on Wednesday, so I got some time. But. But yeah, what, what an incredible.
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Colin Cowherd
You know, it's funny, I don't. You didn't hear this because you were on the field. So they asked Kyle Shanahan who knows Seattle well about the game, and I couldn't believe he said it. He goes, well, if Seattle doesn't turn it over, this, this could get ugly. When you're in the stadium, it's different than me watching on TV and on the field warmups. Did it feel like to you when you're watching them and you can tell stuff, you're a pro athlete, you've been there. Did you look at that and go, man, Seattle just looks a little different?
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Matt Hasselbeck
Well, yeah, with the exception of the defense for New England was, was holding them to field goals, not touchdowns. So you know, it was like Felix, Seahawks were dominating, especially on defense. But it was three nothing, then it was six nothing, then it was nine nothing. You know, as a player that doesn't give you a ton of confidence. And it kind of reminded me of those great Seahawks. Sorry, those great Patriot defenses early on that they gave up a ton of yards but they keep you out of the end zone and, and that's why they won so much foot, you know, so many football games. Unfortunately, you know that defense for New England, they just were on the field so much.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah.
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Matt Hasselbeck
Because it felt like three and out, three and out, three and out,. You know, so many punts. I think it was like eight punts in a row for that Patriots offense. So, you know, eventually that defense is just going to wear down. And I think that's kind of what happened, especially trying to stop Kenneth Walker in the run game.
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Colin Cowherd
You know, Mike McDonald calls his own plays. I always prefer my head coach doesn't, but I also. And I've defended guys like Lincoln Riley. If you're really good at it and you're better than anybody else you can hire. I get why certain coaches are like, listen, this is my defense. It's my vision. I mean, you know, Mike, you've talked to Mike. Is he just different? Is he kind of just a guy that's just quicker and probably should call stuff? Because he's just. He'll never hire a guy that's better at that than him.
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Matt Hasselbeck
Well, you got to remember why you got hired in the first place. I mean, he got hired in the first place because of who he was as a defensive coordinator, as a defensive play caller. And there's a great feel for that. I mean, this Seahawks defense was so good at getting a pass rush with four all year long.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah.
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Matt Hasselbeck
And then what'd you see yesterday? It was a blitz fest and there was blood in the water and they were shark circling and they were like, you know what? Usually we're not going to be a blitz repeating team, but if you don't prove that you have an answer for it, we're bringing it again. And to see this, the speed and the timing and the savvy of the defensive back and linebacker blitzes, you just don't see that. It's not normal. You know, Devin Witherspoon's an incredible, incredible corner. Incredible corner. When they move him inside to nickel and he's blitzing, he's an incredible blitzer, pass rusher. I mean, really, he had four tackles and a touchdown yesterday, if you count the strict strip sack. Yeah. That they originally called a fumble, scoop and score. And then I think, you know, 20 minutes later they said, no, that was a pick six. But that's a Devin Witherspoon and Mike McDonald touchdown in my mind. So, I mean, they were just the great defenses. I mean, I'm talking great defenses. They try to score when they're on defense and they think they can. And that's what I thought. I think that's what I saw to Seattle yesterday.
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Colin Cowherd
It was interesting, Matt, as somebody that's at home and just a sportscaster who's never been on the field in a game I try to watch a game plan and figure out in the first two series what are the coaches telling me. And when I watched New England jumping routes in the first two series, I was like, they're trying to get Sam to be old Sam because they're. They're so aggressive. They're doing this because they know they're offensively. They've looked at the film and thought, we're going to struggle to block them when they're deep in territory, we have to make Seattle make a mistake. So my. When I'm watching them jump routes, I'm like, that is insanely aggressive. What did it tell you?
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Matt Hasselbeck
Well, yeah, and to me, I think when I look at the New England Patriots, as young as they are on offense, they're equally like they're.
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Emmanuel Acho
They're.
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Matt Hasselbeck
They're that experienced on defense. When I look at that Patriots defense, I see a very experienced group with lockdown corners on the outside. Like, this is a good defense. They're not the deepest defense, but they're pretty good offensively. They just struggle. They're young. I think they're going to get better someday. It was just a tough matchup against a great defense. But that New England Patriots defense really, I thought, played really well early on. They just wore down. You know, it's. It's complimentary football for a reason. Like, you can't. I mean, you just don't really appreciate the. All the turnovers and you don't appreciate the three and outs. Because what happens as a defensive player after your series, you come over on the sidelines, you sit down, you're trying to get a drink, you're trying to get oxygen, you're trying to get adjustments made, and all of a sudden, like, bam. Hey, you're. You guys are back up. It's like, we're back up again, like, already, you know, and it was a very physical game from Seattle up front as well. They. They determined, hey, you know what? Kenneth walk use load management all year on him. Everyone was saying, we need more Kenneth Walker, we need more K9. They said, no, we're going to stick to the plan. We're going to use Charbonnet. And then Charbonnet eventually got hurt. Then they. They had to unleash K9. And they did. And I think it wore the Patriots down.
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Colin Cowherd
You know, it's interesting, J. Mack talked about this. Kenneth Walker, I think, is a free agent. And my take is a few years ago, Brady won in Tampa and they brought the band back. And I've always believed that you have to make Some changes to keep it fresh. Seattle is young. They've got a couple of guys in the back end they could move off of. They don't have a ton of picks. How do you keep this team hungry? And, you know, they've got some cap space here. What do you. I mean, Walker's not a pass catcher, Matt, and he's not great blocker. He's a little one dimensional, but he's unbelievable at that one dimension. Do you stay with him? Do you stay with a roster? Do you tweak? How do you stay young and hungry when it looks like you're not only the best team in the league, only the Rams can challenge you?
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Matt Hasselbeck
Well, they're going to have to stop the bleeding when Clint Kubiak leaves. Clint Kubiak's going to leave and go to the Raiders. And, you know, I think they can, you know, he's a great coach. I think they can maybe handle losing a coordinator. They've proven that. But who's he taking with him? Like, that's the big question. There might be a lot of turnover just because he's taken a bunch of coaches in the building with him. He might be taking players with him that he knows fits into his system. He's starting fresh in Las Vegas. They're going to spend money, they're building something they want to draw a line in the sand. Like, who's he taking with him? He's probably not taking K9, but if you do have a ton of turnover, then maybe that's more of a reason to keep K9 and keep the. Keep the band together just a little bit. And you see. You know, I think another point, Clint Kubiak's proven he likes to bring people that he's already been around, he's already spent a lot of time with. He was a huge part of the fact that they even got Sam Darnold. They were together in San Fran at the trade deadline. He was the one banging, you know, standing up on the table saying, hey, Rashid Shahid. I had him in New Orleans. Bring him to us. You're going to love him on special teams. He's going to fit well in the room. He's got upside. He compliments jsn. He's going to help Cooper cup be Cooper Cup. He can. Cooper cup can be the short intermediate guy and we get our speedsters outside. So Clint Kubiak, you know, he's obviously the son of Gary Kubiak. He's the brother of Clay Kubiak in San Fran. This guy knows what he's doing. So I think my biggest concern would be, who's he taking with him? Like, who's he poaching? And you better. You better hope that you don't let him poach the people you need.
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Colin Cowherd
You know, it's funny. People are saying, well, Darnold, you know, Darnold wasn't the key to it. And I said he had 186 postseason snaps and didn't have a turnover. And I think if you look at, like, Aikman with the Cowboys was a great example. Great coach, great roster. Steve Young with the Niners, great coach, great roster. Those guys played Super Bowls and didn't have a turnover because they knew the assignment. I think part of Sam's growth is what's needed. Against the Rams, he had to make spectacular plays. Against the Patriots, they knew on film, especially in the first quarter, like, don't make a big mistake. I think game manager gets a horrible reputation. Everybody, to some degree, is managing. Take me through kind of what you saw with Sam in the entire playoff run and against the Patriots.
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Matt Hasselbeck
Yeah, I agree. Game manager is this weird word.
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Colin Cowherd
I don't.
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Matt Hasselbeck
I don't use the word game manager. I use the word game commander. Like, you're in command. Brady was the best at that. He was in command of it. He won Super Bowls at the beginning, and in the end, it wasn't a stat fest. That wasn't what it was about. It was about him in command of the game, dictating how the game's going to go and just zoom out on the playoffs this year. Look at the turnover thing. The turnover thing's a major thing. You want to. You want to measure winning and losing. It is truly all about the ball. And Sam Darnold understood that. And I think part of it is he can rest with confidence knowing that he doesn't have to always go out there and throw for.350 like he did in the NFC championship game, because he knows, hey, they've told me. And I feel it. You're our guy, Sam. You're our guy. You don't have to prove yourself. Maybe other people want you to prove yourself.
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Colin Cowherd
You.
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Matt Hasselbeck
You don't need to do that with us. You're our guy. We've put our money where our mouth is. We could have gone out and gotten anybody in the world in free agency or gone the draft or whatever. We put all our chips on you, and other teams didn't do that. The jets kicked you to the curb. Carolina kicked you to the curb. San Fran never gave you an opportunity, even when you were in Minnesota and you had that awesome year. You never really knew if you were the guy. You never really felt like you were the guy. People in the building were probably saying, now he's not going to be our guy. So that when you know you're the guy, you don't care. If you throw for 198 yards and win the game, you don't care. And that's what I see at a Sam. And I think the locker room respects it. And I think you just stack bricks that way in terms of confidence in yourself, the team's confidence in you. Unselfish play goes a long, long way in a locker room.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah, the. You know, Drake May J. Mac had said this earlier. He struggled throughout the playoffs. Yes, Will Campbell was being overwhelmed. There's no question I didn't love. I thought they should attack Seattle with Hunter Henry. I think the Rams have success against the Seahawks because they use their tight ends very effectively. It's hard to beat Witherspoon in the outside. You got to do the best you can with tight ends and throw it to backs. With Drake May, are you worried that he looked overwhelmed? Maybe he wasn't 100%. I mean, let take out one drive and some garbage time stuff. I mean it was pretty lean. What worried you at all?
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Matt Hasselbeck
Yeah, he did not look healthy to me. You know, that was one thing, you know, like, he looks. He looked okay. He looked good, pretty good. You know, in terms of his fastball and stuff like that. He had some great throws, but I just didn't think he was. Look, he looked like he was in that. Like, hey, I'm feeling my best. I don't think that. I also think that pass protection was a real issue early on. It was a huge issue. I didn't love how they didn't feel like an aggressive enough game plan. And when they went aggressive, now he's holding on the ball and putting the. Putting the offensive line in a tough spot. Like, I don't think they're going to watch the film and feel really good about it. I also just think like when you're playing a defense that is that good, this defense, I, you know, we need to really start talking about this defense with the great defenses of all time, like the great defense. And we don't. I'm not sure why we need to. So if you're playing, if you're mismatched with a great defense of a historical, of. Of a historic nature, you got to pull out the trick plays, man. Like, you gotta, you gotta steal one you gotta manufacture something exotic in like, I just, it was just kind of like, hey, inside zone, outside zone. We're just gonna, I don't know, try to control the line of scrimmage, control the clock, control, like it just, it wasn't there for me. So I think there's a lot to learn from. I think the health is a thing. I'm not willing to just like throw everything out, move people at other positions and all the, all the stuff, but I do think that there's a, there's a long look in the mirror on this one and what could we have done to be more competitive in this game?
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Colin Cowherd
I think it's. Seattle has the ability to get great pressure with only four. That's the definition of a great defense. And they are unbelievably twitchy and handsy and athletic in the back end and their special teams are stacked. I mean, honestly, there's not a lot of holes with Seattle.
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Matt Hasselbeck
No. And I think just like if we go back to the Drake May thing, like I love like the tangibles and the upside and the athleticism, but one of the best quarterback performances against the Seattle Seahawks defense this year was a 44 year old Philip Rivers who was like coaching high school football for a couple of years. And it just goes to show, if I could say one thing to these young quarterbacks, learn from what Philip Rivers did. It's a little bit more about things that they do not test for at the combine. It's your vision, it's your communication, it's your demeanor. It's getting the ball out of your hands quicker to guys who can do something with it. It's protecting the offensive line by not taking sacks. Fumbles need to be hated the way you hate interceptions. There's a lot of lessons you can learn from guys like Philip who had just like a longevity of success year after year after year, and then comes and does it in Seattle, leaves the field with the, with the lead. You know, it was only because of a last second field goal. He didn't get the win. So I just think for young quarterbacks, if you want to really learn, you know, again, this is stuff that doesn't show up at the combine. They don't test for it. But it absolutely matters when you play this position.
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Colin Cowherd
By the way, the Pacific Northwest has great wine and craft beers. I'm not going to get nosy on what you, you know, where you went last night. But I will say this, as somebody that grew up in the Pacific Northwest, it's wine country. It's Beer country. There's. You can have a good time in Seattle. And you're telling me you did?
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Matt Hasselbeck
Well, I'm in San Fran. Was at the, you know, the post game party. Yeah, it was actually San Jose. I. I made it for Ludacris and T Pain. I don't know who performed after that. I went, I went, I left, I left. But the young kids, they were still there. And I was very impressed to see Kenneth Walker at the MVP presentation in his. In his green suit. He looked great. Mike McDonald looks like he slept 12 hours. I don't know how he does it. The dude's a machine. Very impressive because it was, it was a good time.
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Colin Cowherd
Great seeing you, buddy.
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Matt Hasselbeck
Awesome, Colin. Thanks.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah, I'm staring at that Seattle Seahawk hat and he's a former Seahawk and I'm thinking, yeah, where did he go in Seattle? Oh, wait, the game was in Santa Clara. I should probably know that. You know, I said before when the game was starting, I turned to Ryan because we were together watching this and I said, Seattle knows this stadium. They know the angles. Yeah, like Seattle's. This is, this is. Feels like a little bit. There was a lot more Seahawk fans. It felt a little bit like 65, 35. It felt like a Seattle home game in terms of they've played in this stadium multiple times.
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Emmanuel Acho
Even Darnold look comfortable in the opening drive. They go right down the field for the field goal. But I want to. Let me ask something about what he said. Hasselbeck was talking about May and he didn't like look right. He talked about getting that shot after the, you know, before the game. I'm just. Do you. How much do you think he was like 80% healthy?
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Colin Cowherd
75 shot before a game. It means you're in pain after a two week layoff.
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Emmanuel Acho
That's not great at all. So maybe I'm overreacting to this poor postseason. Well, I didn't been banged up.
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Colin Cowherd
I appreciate Matt Hasselbeck. I really appreciate Matt Hasselbeck saying and admitting this is how I felt. Why aren't you attacking Seattle with the tight ends? The Rams do a really effective job of that. Hunter Henry is a very nice tight end. I want, I want 12 targets to him. I want three step drops. I want a lot of swing passes. In fact, if you looked at the opening drive for New England, they had, they. They did a couple swing passes. You have to get Seattle in some space. And, and by the way, excellent tackling team. But that's one of you. If you're thinking you're going to drop with a left tackle, Will Campbell with a quarterback that's not 100%. With a team in Seattle that gets pressure with four. That is not a legitimate game plan. You have got to bring in tricks. You've got to do swing passes. You got to be very Hunter Henry.
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Emmanuel Acho
Aware no gadget plays at all.
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Colin Cowherd
And by the way, Seattle as the favorite, did you notice how many times they either did fake reverses to Shahid three times in the first couple drives. So Seattle was trying to be more creative and taking more chances than New England. And Seattle's got better personnel. So I thought it was a pretty conservative game plan.
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Hope Woodard
Who.
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Emmanuel Acho
Who came up with that? Josh McDaniels, the architect of like seven Tom Brady first quarters that did nothing.
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Colin Cowherd
Tenth straight Patriot Super bowl appearance without a first quarter touchdown.
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Emmanuel Acho
And a lot of those are Josh McDaniels. So what is that, just ultra conservative or.
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Colin Cowherd
I didn't love the game plan. Again, this is what coaches do. They look at film. You are watching Will Campbell get devoured by all these defenses, especially Houston. Well, Seattle and Houston have defenses, as we've said multiple times this year. Turn the sound down. The Texans and Seahawk defenses do not look like even the Chargers doesn't look quite that good. So Bolto, everybody knew in the building in New England we're going to struggle protecting May's backside. Everybody knew that. All these coaches knew it. Tight ends, bubble screens, trick plays, reverses, gadgets. You gotta get Seattle, like slowing down.
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Emmanuel Acho
Remember the stat about how McDonald against young quarterbacks, they're like 1 and 9. And we saw that again with May. He looked confused. Apparently the Seahawks only blitzed seven times the entire game. They were getting home with four, like six.
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Colin Cowherd
Seattle's a non blitzing team and they brought corner blitzes.
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Emmanuel Acho
And May was still totally rattled by this. So for a gambling nugget, we'll file it for next September. If the Seattle schedule has young quarterbacks early, fade those young quarterbacks and load up on Seattle. Because this defense is just. I mean, it's, it's brutal. I don't.
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Colin Cowherd
He brought up a great point. Matt Hasselbrech brought up a great point. We're. We're asking what are they going to do with Kenneth Walker, who's absolutely going to have value on the market. Now, he's not a guy you're going to throw the ball to, but everybody wants two running backs. If you have a running back that has good hands. And then Kenneth Walker can be the bulldozer. And he said, and I thought this was really right, really clever. Because of the loss of Clint Kubiak and he will take other coaches. You may pay Walker to create more dependability. You don't want too much chaos on the offensive.
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Emmanuel Acho
Right. With the, with the Walker. He also said Kubiak brought Shahid from New Orleans. I forgot about that. Does he now take Shaheed, who's a free agent to the Raiders as a potential field stretcher with Mendoza?
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Colin Cowherd
I. Yeah, I don't know.
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Emmanuel Acho
That would be a big loss because he was huge.
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Colin Cowherd
I don't know if that's a player I would pay. I think the way, well but the way the, the the Seahawks looked at Rasheed Shahid was we're a Super bowl roster, okay.
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Emmanuel Acho
It's a one off.
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Colin Cowherd
He's a final piece. You can't make him a go to he's not a volume guy.
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Fox Sports Radio Announcer
That's fair.
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Colin Cowherd
If you have a really good team like you'd bring him to the Chiefs with Mahomes and say if Simmons ends up being the left tackle they think he is and say okay we need an over the top component here. I think good teams that need a splash player like Seattle, that's who pays him. I and by the way Seattle probably knew he was a one year player but you're looking at it. I mean you know how this league is. If you are the Rams, let's go out and get Devonte Adams. Why? Because McVay looks at the roster and thinks can we got Puka. I love the tight ends, the backs. We're a Super bowl roster. Stafford's playing one or two years left. We're going to go get devonte Adams. We're going to give up this, this, this, whatever you have to do. So there's, there's players fit certain teams and I think, I don't think Rashid Jade fits the Raiders their timeline. They need they you know what they need the guy they let go to Jacksonville, Jacoby Myers.
- [29:26]
Emmanuel Acho
Well the kid Pierce is from the Colts is on the market. He's going to command some top dollar. He's a good receiver.
- [29:30]
Colin Cowherd
Yeah they need, they need an 80 catch even if it's five touchdown. The Raiders need an 80 catch receiver. They need a volume receiver and that's not what he is live in LA, it's the herd. One more herd. The herd streams 24 hours a day, seven days a week within the iHeartRadio app.
- [29:48]
Fox Sports Radio Announcer
Search herd to listen live or on.
- [29:50]
Emmanuel Acho
Demand whenever you'd like.
- [29:54]
Stugots
Stugats here I have a podcast empire. It continues to grow and I have brought it here to iHeart. I'm also doing a live radio show from 3 to 5pm Eastern because my wife wanted to kick me out of the house. It's called Stugac company Live, which is available in podcast form right when the show finishes every single day. Some of the biggest names in sports, a lot of phone calls.
- [30:19]
Emmanuel Acho
I love you guys show. It's one of my favorite, a lot.
- [30:21]
Stugots
Of interaction, guys not taking themselves too seriously. Those are just some of the things that you can expect from Stugouts Co. And Stugots Co. Live. So listen to Stugots Co. Live and our original podcast. Please subscribe, rate and review Stugots Co. And God bless football. Taylor's livelihood depends on it. Do it today and you can check all of those out on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.
- [30:55]
Fox Sports Radio Announcer
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- [31:25]
Colin Cowherd
All right, two truths and a Lie. Here we go. I went to college with college football coach Jim McElwaine. I began my broadcasting career doing play by play for the Las Vegas Stars, and I've been a Verizon customer for 15 years. Okay, I lied. All three are true. Verizon isn't as expensive as you think. In fact, if you bring in your AT and T or T Mobile bill to a Verizon store, they'll give you a better deal. That's right, a better deal on the best network with the most ways to save on plans, streaming and phone deals. So take that AT and T or T Mobile bill to your local Verizon store today. Get a better deal and start saving based on root metrics. Best Overall Mobile Network Performance U.S. 2nd Half 2025 All Rights Reserve must provide recent consumer mobile bill in the name of the person redeeming the deal. Additional terms, conditions and restrictions apply.
- [32:14]
Fox Sports Radio Announcer
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- [33:17]
Stugots
Stugats here I have a podcast empire. It continues to grow and I have brought it here to iHeartrading. I'm also doing a live radio show from 3 to 5pm Eastern because my wife wanted to kick me out of the house. It's called Stugac company Live, which is available in podcast form right when the show finishes every single day. Some of the biggest names in sports, a lot of phone calls.
- [33:42]
Emmanuel Acho
I love you guys show. It's one of my favorites.
- [33:44]
Stugots
A lot of interaction, guys not taking themselves too seriously. Those are just some of the things that you could expect from Stugatson Co. And Stugots Co. Live. So listen to Stugatson Co. Live and our original podcast. Please subscribe, rate and review Stugatson Co. And God bless football. Taylor's livelihood depends on it. Do it today and you can check all of those out on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast or wherever you get your podcast.
- [34:18]
Hope Woodard
What is one thing about love you've had to unlearn? That it's earned, that it needs to.
- [34:23]
Matt Hasselbeck
Be forever for it to count.
- [34:25]
Hope Woodard
February is the month of love. Whether you're in a relationship, casually dating, or proudly single, it's a great time to reflect on yourself and what you want. I'm Hope Woodard, host of the Voiceover Podcast and each week this month we're looking at love from every angle.
- [34:44]
Emmanuel Acho
I don't know how to tell my.
- [34:45]
Matt Hasselbeck
Partner, like what I want in bed.
- [34:47]
Hope Woodard
The thing about romantic fiction, I would say more than any other genre of culture is that it's always put women first. My marriage stopped making sense. The connection started to feel off. The behavior started to feel different. This February, get in touch with yourself by listening to Boy Sober. That's B o y s o be. I'm like, I would love to not hate the man I'm sleeping with. I don't know what that's about. Listen to Boy Sober on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
- [35:22]
Colin Cowherd
Welcome back, Jay. Poor J Mack, he got, you know, he's. He's conflicted that he won all his bets yesterday, so he's in a good mood. But he's come to the realization over the last 12 to 24 hours that poor Brock Purdy is going to get shut out of any more postseason success.
- [35:37]
Emmanuel Acho
Stop with madness. Come on. You just think it's Sam Darnold's world. We're just living in it now.
- [35:43]
Colin Cowherd
Right? I'm gonna tell you, I. When you're.
- [35:45]
Emmanuel Acho
I'm happy for you. Let me get that out.
- [35:47]
Colin Cowherd
I've never done a Seattle based show today. I never did sports radio in Seattle. So today I decided a lot of Seattle today. Yeah. Even got Hasselbeck partying in Seattle instead of Santa Clara. Honestly, Seattle on my brain.
- [36:00]
Emmanuel Acho
I'm expecting you to dip out of the show later this week to go to the parade. I mean, not right. I mean, are you going to text Schneider, your guy about that?
- [36:06]
Colin Cowherd
I would love somebody live at the parade who's a trustable source we can use.
- [36:11]
Fox Sports Radio Announcer
I don't know.
- [36:11]
Emmanuel Acho
Sam Darnold.
- [36:13]
Colin Cowherd
After watching Devin Witherspoon. Maybe it's him. He was something else. He had. But the corner play yesterday between Christian Gonzalez.
- [36:20]
Emmanuel Acho
Yeah.
- [36:21]
Colin Cowherd
And Devin Witherspoon. You may have been watching the two most athletic corners in the league.
- [36:26]
Emmanuel Acho
Yeah, Gonzalez was good.
- [36:27]
Colin Cowherd
That would. That deep ball that he knocked down.
- [36:30]
Emmanuel Acho
He was like levitating in the air.
- [36:31]
Colin Cowherd
That is a poster. Yeah. That guy is insane. He gets banged up a little bit, but he is. He is the. Or he went to Oregon.
- [36:39]
Emmanuel Acho
Just a guy. Yeah.
- [36:40]
Colin Cowherd
I mean, he's like. Both those guys are like speed Witherspoon's 4:3 guy.
- [36:44]
Hope Woodard
Yeah.
- [36:45]
Colin Cowherd
There's not many of those. Believe it or not, there's not that many of those guys. Illinois.
- [36:48]
Emmanuel Acho
So two big.
- [36:49]
Colin Cowherd
I watched him play. You YouTube is Illinois stuff. He lit guys up.
- [36:53]
Emmanuel Acho
Yeah.
- [36:53]
Colin Cowherd
I mean, he hits like a safety.
- [36:55]
Emmanuel Acho
What are we pivoting to the draft, by the way?
- [36:57]
Colin Cowherd
Huh?
- [36:58]
Emmanuel Acho
I'm excited for this tomorrow show. A lot of jets talk with draft.
- [37:03]
Colin Cowherd
J. Mac with the news. No, no, no. Turn on the news.
- [37:07]
Emmanuel Acho
This is the Herd line news. So, you know, I was hopeful that Aaron Rodgers would be gone and it'd be over and he could just glide into retirement. Well, here we go. There's chatter now. According to multiple reports that Mike McCarthy and Aaron Rodgers could be joining forces, the latest report indicates Rodgers is seriously considering returning and the odds are increasing that he returns with the Steelers. I don't, I don't, I don't understand where this is coming from. Now is your guess this is McCarthy's camp or Roger?
- [37:39]
Colin Cowherd
Well, it depends. Do you trust Will Howard? Do you think Will Howard is good enough for a year? Because I think Mike McCarthy with some of their weapons, I think Will Howard, if he can play, and that's up to McCarthy. They haven't seen him. I don't think it's about Aaron. I think if you think Will Howard is worth 15, start, 16 start. Let's see if the kid can play. Yeah, I think you go for it.
- [38:00]
Emmanuel Acho
I think you got to see what these young guys have.
- [38:02]
Colin Cowherd
Now.
- [38:02]
Emmanuel Acho
We got got stats for the Rogers the last two years. One with the jets, one with the Steelers. And surprisingly, when you, when you cherry pick these stats, he's not awful. Right now if you look at some advanced metrics, he falls down because he can't run. He's immobile.
- [38:15]
Colin Cowherd
He does not throw a lot of picks. He never has.
- [38:18]
Emmanuel Acho
Didn't have the greatest weapons in Pittsburgh. I know you like them, but like on the outside, they don't have a top 10 receiver.
- [38:23]
Colin Cowherd
I thought Aaron got rid of all the chaos. I didn't think Pittsburgh was a smart offense the last six, seven years. I thought Aaron made the offense smarter and eliminated turnovers. I thought Aaron had a, all things considered, a very strong year.
- [38:39]
Emmanuel Acho
So somewhere Arthur Smith, probably Columbus, Ohio. Arthur Smith is like, hey, hey, can I get some credit for that? Because he obviously was the offensive coordinator. I just don't know what to make of Rogers at this point. Colin, like, at some point you've got to reboot. You can't just keep. Hey, let's just keep Rod. Like, why don't you just rip the band aid off and move on? Isn't that the move? See what you got on Will Howard and if he flops, you draft somebody.
- [39:00]
Colin Cowherd
Well, I mean, Will Howard's a fifth rounder. I don't think people look at him as a franchise guy. Aaron's better than Will Howard. It depends. I mean, you could. I mean, my take is if Aaron comes back with Mike McCarthy. Aaron's going to have a very solid year.
- [39:13]
Emmanuel Acho
But what, what, what are they worth as a combo? One win maybe. Is it an upgrade from Mike Tomlin?
- [39:19]
Colin Cowherd
Offensively, Absolutely. I think it's two wins, I think.
- [39:23]
Emmanuel Acho
Okay, so if, if Mahomes is back.
- [39:25]
Colin Cowherd
Healthy, I don't know what the over under is. If I think it'll be nine, I'd take the over.
- [39:30]
Emmanuel Acho
Okay, so Mahomes, Burrow, Lamar, they're all going to be.
- [39:33]
Colin Cowherd
No, no.
- [39:34]
Emmanuel Acho
Supposedly health.
- [39:35]
Colin Cowherd
No. Aaron's not in his prime. Aaron's probably the eighth best quarterback at best in the afc.
- [39:41]
Emmanuel Acho
Okay.
- [39:42]
Colin Cowherd
I mean eighth best in a conference.
- [39:44]
Emmanuel Acho
Yeah, they made the playoffs when Tyler Luke missed like a 46.
- [39:47]
Colin Cowherd
Remember, Drake may is going to be better next year because the O L is going to be better. I mean, like, you know, Justin Herbert's going to be better because he's going to have his tackles.
- [39:54]
Emmanuel Acho
Fernando Mendoza, I think they're could be.
- [39:57]
Colin Cowherd
Very good from the start, plus two wins. So I don't think keeping Aaron is a Super bowl discussion. I think it's a he's our best option discussion.
- [40:06]
Emmanuel Acho
All right, speaking of NFL returns, how about this one? Travis Kelce is in talks with the Chiefs. Now, nothing is saying he's going to definitely come back, but reports from various outlets indicate he's been in touch with the Chiefs about coming back for year 14. Now, I don't know what in touch means. Like what are you thinking offensively? Do you have room for me? What kind of salary would I play at? Can I skip pre, Can I skip offseason workouts? You know, because I got the big wedding again, this is one of these like do we want to keep, you know, do you want to keep the old guys, if you will, Kelsey and Roger, you want to keep them around or just move?
- [40:44]
Colin Cowherd
I think here's the problem. Xavier Worthy's a gadget guy. Rashee Rice has been immature. Who can they depend on?
- [40:52]
Emmanuel Acho
Blake. What's the tight end? Blake Bell, Is that his name? The bat, the backup? I don't there other receivers aren't great. Hollywood Brown, is he going to still be there?
- [41:00]
Colin Cowherd
Again, Hollywood Brown's a bounce around the league guy. I think if they had this formidable group of young receivers, if they, if they had a jsn, then you maybe don't have those discussion. But I think Travis Kelce on third down still incredibly important.
- [41:12]
Emmanuel Acho
I mean if Patrick Mahomes looks at their depth chart for receivers, tight ends.
- [41:16]
Colin Cowherd
And running back, who you throw them.
- [41:17]
Emmanuel Acho
To, they got nobody. I'm just Telling you the skill position guys are.
- [41:20]
Colin Cowherd
I mean, we can all say we want about Travis Kelce, but to me, if I'm Patrick Mahomes. How many catches did he have last year? How many catches did Travis Kelsey have last year? Yeah, he's still a volume guy, especially. Let's be fair too, in big games. He generally. I don't think he has a lot left, but I think he's probably got. Does he have 8 to 10 really good performances left? Absolutely.
- [41:43]
Emmanuel Acho
Remember that game at the. He had several games where he kind of.
- [41:46]
Colin Cowherd
76 catches last year. Can he give me 72 this year? 70.
- [41:50]
Emmanuel Acho
And that's probably in like 14 games because with the backup quarterbacks at the end, they weren't. They. They had nothing going on.
- [41:56]
Colin Cowherd
76 catches, 851 yards, very good on third down.
- [42:01]
Emmanuel Acho
He feels like a declining asset, doesn't it? I don't want to sound.
- [42:05]
Colin Cowherd
He's kind of part of the culture. He's very. He's very big culture guy, as his brother was in Philadelphia.
- [42:12]
Emmanuel Acho
All right, final story. Let's go to the NBA, the Lakers. Colin, obviously at the trade deadline, made a nice move for Luke Kennard. I got a text from one of your staffers about Luke Kennard and his great game against the Warriors. Here's Luke Kennard. Look at that feathery touch from deep. But I bring that up because Rob Pelinka over the weekend talked about how the new ownership group with the Dodgers for the Lakers, obviously they're a North Star when it comes to an example for what the Lakers are striving for. And you've pointed this out. Hey, the Dodgers spent. They added to the analytics team. They've got one of the deepest, you know, front offices in the league when it comes to recruiting. And I don't know, I watch.
- [42:52]
Colin Cowherd
We'll see.
- [42:52]
Emmanuel Acho
It sounds like the Lakers are making moves in the front office this offseason.
- [42:55]
Colin Cowherd
Yes, I mean, we. I think we were. Not that it took much, but I thought we were on the forefront when they bought the team. We listed a graphic of the size of the Lakers front office and the size of the Dodgers and. Oh, nice job. Nice job. I didn't know we had that. Look at the difference.
- [43:14]
Emmanuel Acho
So that's embarrassing.
- [43:15]
Colin Cowherd
Yeah, I mean, the Lakers were kind of a discount family business, mom and pop shop. You need another 20 people. I mean, the Lakers are known as not great necessarily in some of the executive suite stuff. We can blame Pelinka for it. But I mean, I've. Luke Kennard is just more of what they Have a shooter who can't defend. So I think the Lakers, I think the way they look at Luke Kennard is we're addressing at least one of our issues, which is more three point shooting. But this new group, what I love about the Dodgers group, they've moved off great players. Trey Turner, Seger Bellinger, Manny Machado. Like their standard is Mookie Betts, Freddie Freeman, Ohtani. So the idea Austin Reaves is good. Good is not what they maintain. They're keeping better than good. Jj, Redick and Luca are the only thing they're not taking a call on. They have a Dodgers standard is all star. I mean, they didn't trade, turn, win the batting crown.
- [44:16]
Emmanuel Acho
They moved off Trey Turner. Lakers have had a good stretch. They beat the Sixers the other last week and then the warriors and tonight against okc.
- [44:23]
Colin Cowherd
Oh, I'll watch. I watched all. I watched the entire game.
- [44:25]
Emmanuel Acho
No SGA tonight, no Luca, little blurry. And then Tuesday, Tuesday against the Spurs. That's as tough a back to back as you can get. OKC and followed by the Spurs.
- [44:35]
Colin Cowherd
You should have come out Saturday night.
- [44:37]
Emmanuel Acho
I heard you were bombed or sorry, having. Having a blast. I meant sorry.
- [44:41]
Colin Cowherd
I was having a wonderful time. It was. We were prepping for the super bowl. Clearly. Yeah.
- [44:47]
Emmanuel Acho
Just drilling down on Sam Darnold stats and history and.
- [44:50]
Colin Cowherd
Not much to drill down. It was all right in front of you, J. Mac with the news.
- [44:55]
Fox Sports Radio Announcer
Well, that's the news.
- [44:56]
Colin Cowherd
And thanks for stopping by the Herd lie news. We got a lot of stuff here. Yeah, like, what do you do after 30 starts? If it's 30 starts, enough of a sample to say, okay, this is what a quarterback is. Okay, go look at Sam's last 30 starts. Next, the Herd. Be sure to catch live editions of the Herd.
- [45:22]
Emmanuel Acho
Weekdays at noon Eastern, 9am Pacific.
- [45:25]
Colin Cowherd
All right, two truths in a lie. Here we go. I went to college with college football coach Jim McElwain. I began my broadcasting career doing play by play for the Las Vegas Stars. And I've been a Verizon customer for 15 years. Okay, I lied. All three are true. Verizon isn't as expensive as you think. In fact, if you bring in your ATT or T Mobile bill to a Verizon store, they'll give you a better deal. That's right, a better deal on the best network with the most ways to save on plans, streaming and phone deals. So take that AT and T or T Mobile bill to your local Verizon store today. Get a better deal and start saving based on root Metrics Best Overall Mobile Network Performance U.S. 2nd Half 2025 All Rights Reserve must provide recent Consumer Mobile bill in the name of the person redeeming the deal. Additional terms, conditions and restrictions apply.
- [46:14]
Fox Sports Radio Announcer
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- [47:16]
Stugots
Stigatz here I have a podcast empire. It continues to grow and I have brought it here to Ihore. I'm also doing a live radio show from 3 to 5pm Eastern because my wife wanted to kick me out of the house. It's called Stugac company Live which is available in podcast form right when the show finishes every single day. Some of the biggest names in sports, a lot of phone calls.
- [47:41]
Emmanuel Acho
I love you guys show. It's one of my favorites.
- [47:43]
Stugots
A lot of interaction. Guys not taking themselves too seriously. Those are just some of the things that you can expect from Stugats Co. And Stugats Co. Live. So listen to Stugats Co. Live and our original podcast. Please subscribe, rate and review Stugots Co. And God bless football. Taylor's livelihood depends on it. Do it today and you can check all of those out on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast or wherever you get your podcast.
- [48:17]
Hope Woodard
What is one thing about love you've had to unlearn? That it's earned.
- [48:22]
Emmanuel Acho
That it needs to be forever for it to count.
- [48:25]
Hope Woodard
February is the month of love. Whether you're in a relationship, casually dating or proudly single It's a great time to reflect on yourself and what you want. I'm Hope Woodard, host of the Boy Sober podcast, and each week this month, we're looking at love from every angle.
- [48:43]
Emmanuel Acho
I don't know how to tell my.
- [48:45]
Matt Hasselbeck
Partner, like, what I want in bed.
- [48:46]
Hope Woodard
The thing about romantic fiction, I would say more than any other genre of culture, is that it's always put women first. My marriage stopped making sense. The connection started to feel off. The behavior started to feel different. This February, get in touch with yourself by listening to Voiceover. That's B o y s o. I'm like, I would love to not hate the man I'm sleeping with. I don't know what that's about. Listen to Boy Sober on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
- [49:19]
Colin Cowherd
Segregation in the day, integration at night.
- [49:24]
Hope Woodard
When segregation was the law, one mysterious black club owner had his own rules.
- [49:29]
Matt Hasselbeck
We didn't worry about what was going on outside. It was like stepping in another world.
- [49:35]
Hope Woodard
Inside Charlie's Place, black and white people danced together. But not everyone was happy about it.
- [49:42]
Matt Hasselbeck
You saw the kkk.
- [49:44]
Fox Sports Radio Announcer
Yeah.
- [49:44]
Colin Cowherd
They was dressed up in their uniform.
- [49:47]
Matt Hasselbeck
The KKK set out to raid Charlie, take him away from here.
- [49:52]
Colin Cowherd
Charlie was an example of power. They had to crush him.
- [50:00]
Hope Woodard
From Atlas Obscura, Rococo Punch and visit Myrtle beach comes Charlie's Place, a story that was nearly lost to time. Until now. Listen to Charlie's place on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.
- [50:19]
Emmanuel Acho
Fox College Hoops Friday has Tom Izzo's 10th ranked Michigan State squad taking on Nick Boyd in Wisconsin Friday night at 8 Eastern on Fox.
- [50:32]
Colin Cowherd
Oh, Matt Hasselbeck was great. RG3 will be joining us on the last hour. Yeah, 30 starts. I mean, can you judge somebody after 30 intense days at work? We're not judging Sam on practice this, but if, if you were an executive outside of an airline pilot, where I need you to be perfect, or a surgeon, where I needed to be perfect. 25 and 5 in your last 30 times on the cockpit or on the operating table. I mean, Sam Darnold's 25 and 12 and 5. And it should be noted he plays the Rams a lot and he plays in a superior conference. Remember, Sam's last two years have been in the NFC. The NFC's got better rosters. AFC's got better high end quarterbacks. Buffalo's roster is not great. I mean, is it, Is Houston's roster great? The Chargers roster great. The better rosters are in the NFC. So Sam is 25 and 5. Minnesota, Seattle against the better conference. So to me, it's better than the number. In fact, what's interesting, if you just took out two Rams games out of his last 30, his numbers would look like Peyton Manning in his prime. So I think, I think you're getting such tremendous value with Sam. People look at those numbers and go, well, he had Kevin OConnell. Well, how Kevin OConnell do this year? That's all I heard last year. Well, it's Justin Jefferson. It's Kevin OConnell. Well, how'd they do without him? Not that great. Here's Mike McDonald on Sam's Journey. Sam doesn't care about the obstacle.
- [52:11]
Matt Hasselbeck
Like you.
- [52:12]
Colin Cowherd
Like, everyone's made a narrative of this guy. Of like everyone is. They. They have tried to put a story and a label on who he is as a person who is a quarterback. He does not care. All he's done since he's walked in the door has just been a tremendous player on our football team and a tremendous leader who is the same guy every day. And that's who he is. And that's how we need to talk about him moving forward. You know, it's. What to me has always been fascinating is that we look at quarterback as the reason you win. But when did Seattle get really good? What did. What have they always had in Seattle? Stable ownership and a great general manager. The quarterbacks, they've had, you know, Russell Wilson, they've had Geno Smith, they've got Sam Darnold before Russell Wilson, they had a lot of different quarterbacks. Right. Why is Seattle always good? We always talk about. That's why, you know, Belichick, Belichick. They've had different coaches, different quarterbacks. Seattle's had the Allen family, stable ownership and a great general manager. So stability and ownership, smart people making smart decisions and a GM who's hiring really smart people. And, you know, he and he and Pete Carroll had a little falling out at the end, and he went and got Mike McDonald. But the Seahawks story is not just Arnold. It is a unbelievable hit rate. If you go look at the last four drafts for the Seattle Seahawks and you put up their first two picks in those drafts, they're like eight for eight. I'm not even going to talk about the third, fourth, fifth, six rounds. They do not miss draft picks. Go look at Minnesota's draft picks. They fired the gm. I mean, their, their hit rates, brutal. So a lot of Seattle is just trades, free agency. They don't overpay for people and they do not miss on those first few draft picks on an annual basis. Our number three.
- [54:36]
Hope Woodard
Think Verizon is expensive? Think again. Anyone can bring their AT and T or T mobile bill to a Verizon store today and we'll give you a better deal. So bring us your bill, walk in, run in, pogo sticking, teleport if you can, ride on the back of a rollerblading yak or fly in on the wings of a majestic falcon. Any way, you can bring your AT and T or T T mobile bill to a Verizon store today and we'll give you a better deal on the best Network based on RouteMetric's best overall mobile network performance US 2nd/2025 all rights reserved. Must provide a very recent postpaid consumer mobile bill in the name of the person redeeming the deal. Additional terms, conditions and restrictions apply.
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Colin Cowherd
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Emmanuel Acho
Didn'T we learn that the folding chair was invented by black people because of what happened in Alabama?
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Hope Woodard
This Black History Month, the podcast Selective.
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Emmanuel Acho
Ignorance with Mandy B unpacks black history and culture with comedy, clarity and conversations that shake the status quo. The Crown act in New York was.
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Colin Cowherd
Signed in July of 2019 and that.
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Emmanuel Acho
Is a building that was passed to prohibit discrimination based on hairstyles associated with race.
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Hope Woodard
To hear this and more, listen to.
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Emmanuel Acho
Selective Ignorance with Mandy B from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Stugots
Dugatz Here I have a podcast empire that I have brought here to iheart and I'm also hosting a daily live radio show from 3 to 5pm Eastern. Cults and Company Live, which is available in podcast form right when the show finishes every single day you can expect a lot of laughter, great guests, a ton of calls and a lot of fun. Listen to Stugats Co. Live and our original podcast Stugats Co. And God bless Football and you can check all of those out on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast or wherever you get your podcast.
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Matt Hasselbeck
This is an iHeart podcast.
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Hope Woodard
Guaranteed Human.