THE HERD - Hour 3 - 16 year NBA veteran Dell Curry stops by The Herd, Tomorrow's Headlines Today

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Podcast Summary: THE HERD – Hour 3 – Dell Curry Joins The Herd, Tomorrow’s Headlines Today (April 2, 2026)

Episode Overview

This episode of The Herd with Colin Cowherd centers on sports culture, NBA evolution, and college basketball predictions. The hour is headlined by a wide-ranging interview with 16-year NBA veteran and current Charlotte Hornets analyst Dell Curry, focusing on the evolution of shooting in the NBA, leadership lessons from dynasties, the rise of new talent like Victor Wembanyama, and the role of personality in successful teams. The episode then shifts to “Tomorrow’s Headlines Today” with in-depth college basketball Final Four predictions and discussions about coaching legacies and conference power. The tone is lively, insightful, and mixes personal anecdotes with broader sports analysis.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Dell Curry on NBA Evolution, Family, and Wembanyama

[02:39–17:40]

The Evolution of the Three-Point Shot

• Dell Curry recalls being an early long-range shooter
  • “I remember it well...You were one of the first guys whose number one shot was a long range jumper...It wasn’t as accepted in your prime as it is today, right?” (Rob Parker, 04:00)
  • “Yeah, no doubt. It was much more of a specialty kind of item or player. Back in the day we had so many dominant centers. The game was played inside out...You'd take two, three, four, maybe five [threes] a game and you better hit a couple of them or your time is going to be limited the next night.” (Dell Curry, 04:06)

Leadership, Family, and Being Part of a Dynasty

• On Steph Curry’s resilience as the face of a franchise:
  • “When you’re winning, there’s a lot of mouths to feed. You get the truth behind the dynasty. Have there been moments, weak stretches, where you saw the stress of being the face?” (Rob Parker, 05:45)
  • “Without a doubt...He understands that...when you win one, you win two, now your fanbase, your organization, and you expect to repeat...it’s been a stressful, you know, 17 years at some points, but he wouldn’t trade one bit of it.” (Dell Curry, 05:45)

Personalities in Locker Rooms: The Steph-Draymond Dynamic

• Contrast between Steph Curry and Draymond Green:
  • “Did you ever have a teammate that was feisty and a tough guy?...I always feel like Draymond and Steph have been the soul of the franchise.” (Rob Parker, 06:44)
  • “Every championship team has those two type guys...a guy who can handle things on the floor in the locker room, is very calm, but tremendously competitive on the floor. Then you gotta have a guy that’s kind of out of control, that the coach has a hard time with...I think of Charles Barkley, I think of Anthony Mason...” (Dell Curry, 07:19)

The New Generation: Charlotte’s Rising Star and Wembanyama

• On a mature rookie changing Charlotte’s locker room:

  • “[He] is one of the most mature 20 year olds I’ve ever been around...He sets the tone as a rookie. He is so focused...Low maintenance...He has a skill set that’s beyond rookies...He affects the game so many other areas.” (Dell Curry, 09:26)

• On Victor Wembanyama’s Uniqueness:

  • “Do you have any comp for him? Have you ever seen anything like this?” (Rob Parker, 12:57)
  • “No...the guy’s shooting threes now, you’re not going to block his shot. I don’t know how you defend him without sending multiple guys at him...This guy’s a total package...He affects the game, he can win you a game on the defensive end. Great talent, face of the league...sky’s the limit as long as that guy stays healthy.” (Dell Curry, 13:25)

On Potential Game Tweaks

• Rob Parker proposes removing the corner three:
  • “I would take the three point shot and move it into the bench. Get rid of the corner three so bigs don’t have to chase down corner threes...I want a league where Roy Hibbert can play. Get rid of the corner three. You probably hate this, don’t you?” (Rob Parker, 12:03)
  • “Absolutely hate it...You have to adapt as a team...You’re not going to get rid of the corner 3. All that is ingredients in winning. And the corner three is going to always be there.” (Dell Curry, 12:03)

On Golf Competition Within the Curry Family

• Who’s better at 140 yards out, you or Steph?
  • “He is. But 140 yards out, I’m hitting the pitching wedge. He’s hitting the gap wedge. I practice a lot more than he does, but he’s got such great touch...” (Dell Curry, 15:07)
  • “Our golf communication and text thread is over the top.” (Dell Curry, 15:07)

On Having His Jersey Retired by Charlotte

• “It was a great night...I slowed down to soak up everything...It’s still surreal for me to walk into the Spectrum Center, look up and see number 30, Curry up in the stands...I can’t tell you how happy, how proud, how grateful, but also how humble I am...it’s a big deal not only for the Hornets organization, but the city of Charlotte.” (Dell Curry, 16:05)

The Volume of Threes Then and Now

• “The Hornets in 1993 with one Dell Curry, shot 11 threes a game. This year they’re averaging 43.” (Rob Parker, 17:22)
• “Oh, wow...I think my game would fit in perfectly with how...today’s game [is played].” (Dell Curry, 17:36)

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NFL & Coaching News Segments

[22:10–28:00]

• C.J. Stroud’s Development and Texans’ Hesitance to Extend:

  • “Brutal postseason, seven turnovers in two games...they’re in no hurry to sign him to a long term deal.”
  • “I think they're going to start working on it. He just had some really sloppy turnovers and bad footwork and that stuff’s correctable. Having a weak arm and no athletic ability is not correctable.” (Rob Parker, 23:28)

• Chiefs Offseason Moves, Coaching Changes:

  • Eric Bieniemy returns as OC; division is stacked, “feel the excitement.”

• Tom Izzo Nearly Jumping to the NBA:

  • “We talked seriously about it. Let’s say that.” (Tom Izzo on potentially coaching the Phoenix Suns, 26:37)

  • On long-term college basketball legends: “If you have a young spirit about you, I don’t care about your age. If you’re old and crusty...couldn’t have coached college NBA players. If you have a young spirit...the right spirit to be a coach in that league.” (Rob Parker, 27:23)

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Tomorrow’s Headlines Today – College Basketball Final Four Preview

[31:53–38:32]

The UNC Coach Search

• “My guess is the headline for the North Carolina job will be: The Otts Father: Tar Heels make an offer TJ can’t refuse. I’m going with TJ Otzelberger from Iowa State.” (Colin Cowherd, 32:03)

Michigan vs. Arizona

• “The headline for Michigan, Arizona will be: It’s getting dusty in here. Michigan sends Arizona home in tears. I’m going with the Wolverines...they don’t have a weakness.” (Colin Cowherd, 33:13)

UConn vs. Illinois

• “The headline for UConn vs. Illinois will be: Caviar Swishes and Champagne Drains: Illinois Euro steps over Husky Nation. I’m with you. I like Illinois here.” (Colin Cowherd, 34:32)

National Championship

• “The headline for the national championship...Will be: Timeout! Michigan clocks first title since 1989.” (Colin Cowherd, 35:44)
• “Michigan hits threes, they could blow out Arizona and Illinois, they’re that good.” (Rob Parker, 36:36)

Most Outstanding Player Prediction

• Yaksel Lindeborg (Michigan)
  • “The headline...will be: Lend me your ears, friends, countrymen, all vote for Yaksel. Yaksel Lindeborg. If we’re talking best college basketball stories in the last decade, this kid’s amazing.” (Colin Cowherd, 37:01)
  • “[Lindeborg’s] going to go closer to like 10, 11, 12, 13, 14 and lands with a much better team and is their third best player.” (Rob Parker, 37:51)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On being a shooting pioneer:

  • “Everything was played inside the three. You know, we take two, three, four, maybe five a game, and you better hit a couple of them or your time is going to be limited the next night.” (Dell Curry, 04:06)

• On leadership in dynasties:

  • “He understands that...when you’re the face of the league, it’s been a lot on him...but he wouldn’t trade one bit of it for the rings, that he has a couple of MVPs.” (Dell Curry, 05:45)

• On Wemby:

  • “You’re not going to block his shot. I don’t know how you defend him without sending multiple guys at him. And now they have enough talent around him that he is an underrated passer.” (Dell Curry, 13:25)

• On the Hornets’ transformation:

  • “The Hornets in 1993...shot 11 threes a game. This year they’re averaging 43.” (Rob Parker, 17:22)
  • “I think my game would fit in perfectly with how...today’s game [is played].” (Dell Curry, 17:36)

• On having his jersey retired:

  • “It’s still surreal for me to walk into the Spectrum center, look up and see number 30, Curry up in the stands...all I’ve done in the community and as an ambassador for this team, I can’t tell you how happy I am, how proud, how grateful, but also how humble.” (Dell Curry, 16:05)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Dell Curry interview begins: 02:39

• On 3-point evolution: 04:06

• On Steph, dynasties, leadership: 05:45

• Steph and Draymond dynamic: 06:44

• On Charlotte’s rookie star: 09:26

• On Wembanyama: 13:25

• Curry family golf rivalry: 15:07

• Dell Curry jersey retirement: 16:05

• Volume of Hornets’ threes, then and now: 17:22

• NFL/Chiefs/Coach/Izzo segment: 22:10–28:00

• Tomorrow’s Headlines Today (Final Four): 31:53–38:32

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Final Impressions

This episode offers a rich mix: nostalgia for the old-school NBA, deep insights into how championship teams function, and optimistic looks at basketball’s future via young stars and college coaching speculation. Dell Curry’s reflections provide humility and perspective, while the college hoops analysis is vibrant and forward-looking. Sports fans will appreciate the blend of history, personal narrative, tactical talk, and predictions delivered in The Herd’s signature conversational style.

Transcript

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[Dell Curry]

Now, let's get this party started.

[Rob Parker]

You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. Well, Steph Curry's been the face of the NBA, or at least shared, it feels like, for 15 years. And much like Wemby, it's ironic. They played last night much like Wemby is that when players come into the game, when Magic Johnson was a six, eight and a half point guard, it's like, well, haven't seen that before. And it just changed the way pacing and the way you matched up. And when, when Steph Curry came in, Michael Jordan was great, but we'd seen versions of Michael Jordan. David Thompson was a version of Michael. Later, Kobe was a version of Michael. There was no Steph and there is no Wemby. Sometimes you forget that dad could play a little. Dell Curry, who's now the analyst, the TV analyst for the Hornets, is now joining us live. Been a great year for that team. So first of all, congratulations. We got video. Most games played second in points. I think people sometimes forget Dell Curry. I remember it well. You were one of the first guys whose number one shot was a long range jumper. And but it's interesting, Dell, back when you were shooting them, sometimes you'd hear a coach say, no, don't do that. Do you remember when you started kind of mastering the long range shot? It wasn't as accepted in your prime as it is today, right?

[Dell Curry]

Yeah, no doubt. It was much more of a specialty kind of item or player. Back in the day we had so many dominant centers. The game was played inside out. You got the ball inside. So if you had a couple of guys like myself that could stretch the floor, you post the center up on that side and dare them to go help. But I was a specialty guy. That's why I played in the league 16 years. I could put the ball in the hole from range. And I look back at the film sessions of me playing and back in. Everything was played inside the three. You know, we take two, three, four, maybe five a game and you better hit a couple of them or your time is going to be limited the next night.

[Rob Parker]

That is funny. Well, good for you. You got your jersey retired again. Most minutes, second most points when you know, one of the things I've said a lot of times, I can tell Fernando Mendoza, the quarterback at Indiana, I can tell he has good parents, he share leadership. One of the things I've always said about Steph Curry is I don't need to know his parents. I know Dell, I know of you, but I said, when you're part of a dynasty, everybody thinks it's easy, but you got the Draymond factor, and you got intense Steve Kerr, and then here comes Kevin Durant. And people look at steps and think, oh, just been easy street. And I'm like, man, when you're winning, there's a lot of mouths to feed. You get the truth behind the dynasty. Have there been moments, weak stretches, where you saw the stress of being the face of a dominant franchise?

[Dell Curry]

Without a doubt. I think that comes with the territory. He understands that. And when you win one, you win two. Now your fan base, your organization, and you expect to repeat. And that's so hard to do. When you're the landscape, you're the face of the league. It's been a lot on him. No doubt it's been a stressful, you know, 17 years at some points, but he wouldn't trade one bit of it for the rings, that he has a couple of MVPs. The leadership, what he's done for not only the NBA, but for the warriors franchise as a whole, I mean, that's part of it. I think him being around the game and seeing it on some level as a young age prepared him for what was to come. But being a leader in a championship locker room, you. There's no experience. You cannot. You don't know what that's going to be like from year to year, from day to day, from week to week, but he's handled it tremendously. I think being around the game early has helped him play a part in that.

[Rob Parker]

It's interesting he couldn't have a more divergent personality from Draymond, but I always think they just work well together. I mean, did you ever have a teammate that was feisty and a tough guy? I mean, it just his. He's a smart kid. He's obviously got a high iq, but Steph's EQ is high. I mean, Draymond can rub people the wrong way. And I always feel like. I always feel like Draymond and Steph have been the soul of the franchise. Not Clay Love him, not Durant, not even Kerr did. Was it immediate for Steph and Draymond? Like, it just. It worked.

[Dell Curry]

I think you really had to find out the temperament of both guys. They were young when they first started, and then you saw their attitude, the relationship grow. So it was something that, like any relationship, it's got to grow. It's got to nurture. You got to feel out each other and find out what's the makeup of each person. But I think every championship team has those two type guys. A guy who can handle things on the floor in the locker room, is very calm, but tremendously competitive on the floor. Then you gotta have a guy that's kind of out of control, that the coach has a hard time with, that's going to do things his way. I had teammates like that. I think of Charles Barkley, I think of Anthony Mason. Yeah, those type guys, fire fiery guys on the floor, nicest guys off the floor. But you wouldn't want anybody else as a teammate to go to war with you.

[Rob Parker]

Yeah, I mean, let's be honest. Best team ever. Could be Jordan, they had Rodman, first or second best team ever. Steph, KD warriors, they had Draymond. I always say. Yeah, a beautiful, esthetically beautiful team has got to have a bouncer, somebody at the door, somebody make sure everybody knows, don't mess around in here. Don't touch our star, don't grab our star. You see it in hockey, you see it in basketball. The game. Now, what's, what's so great about basketball is that in pro football, you know this dell is that you go to college for three or four years. There's hard coaching. It's not about a you as a hard high school coach, it's a hard college coach. You come into the NFL, you, you're kind of ready to perform. Basketball, you go from aau, it may be Europe. You, you get one year of college, maybe then you're a pro. You can't even get into the hotel bar. Okay, so you now you come in yet some of these guys con canipple for you guys, you're like, I, how's he this good, this fast? Like, it's crazy. Some guys come into this league and you just can't believe how good they are. You guys have one now with your team. What do you make of his ascension?

[Dell Curry]

He's such a mature, he's one of the most mature 20 year olds that I've ever been around. Steph, coming in his rookie year, he had Corey McGetty. Thanks, Stephen Jackson, Montales Khan coming into the Hornets, totally different locker room. He sets the tone as a rookie. That's a lot of pressure to put on a rookie, to change the culture, to set the tone. But he's such a mature guy. He is so focused on his task. That's all he's worried about. Eats, sleeps, preparing himself for that game, for the next game. Low maintenance. He has a skill set that's beyond rookies not only just shooting the basketball, he'll have nights where he doesn't shoot it well, but he affects the game so many other areas. He can rebound the basketball. He's very underrated defensively. Playmaker, he'll mix it up. If he has two older five boys, he's such a trendsetter in today's NBA. And we've got three other rookies as well that go along with him. So Jeff Peterson, front office, they got it right. When you can kind of tell the guy has talent, but you really don't know what he's going to be until you get him in your building.

[Rob Parker]

Yep.

[Dell Curry]

But this guy's. This guy is beyond anything anybody could have imagined.

[Rob Parker]

Okay, so I'm going to throw something at you. I like three pointers, but I do think it can get repetitive and I don't want Wemby shooting that many. I like the mid range game. You can shoot them, your son can shoot him. Everybody's got three or four guys that can shoot him. But I think the game, I think baseball's done a lot of good tweaking. I mean, good golf can tweak, tennis can tweak. I'm going to throw this out. I've. I've said before, I think 30 threes a game is fine. 88 is repetitive and homogenous. My theory has always been, I like collisions at the rim. I like people attacking. I would take the three point shot and I would move it into the bench. Get rid of the corner three so bigs don't have to chase down corner threes because it's impossible to stay in front of guards anyway, Dell. Because you can't hand check them. So it's just too many guards getting past defenders, going to the rim. I want them to meet redwoods at the iron. I want that. When LeBron had to meet. Remember when LeBron struggled against. Who was the Georgetown guy for the Indiana pacers? Roy Hibbert. LeBron struggled against Roy Hibbert and it's like, you got to have a league where Roy Hibbert can play. Good guy. I want a league that Roy can play. Get rid of the corner three. Okay. That wouldn't be good for staff. So you probably hate this, don't you?

[Dell Curry]

Absolutely hate it. I think you have to adapt as, as a team. You have to have a guy that. A center position that can do his best staying in front of those guards. We have one on the horns right now. I'll tell you what, in Moussa Diabate does a great job we're seeing Mobley right here. You got to have big guys to do that. You have to adapt. That's part of front office, the gm. You got to bring fine guys. That's going to help your team, tweak your team. You know, you're not going to get rid of the corner 3. I like your idea of collisions at the rim that's been lost. But you have to have big guys now that could shoot the three, but do their best at staying in front of the guard, at least funneling them to where the help's going to be. All that is is is ingredients in winning. And the corner three is going to always be there.

[Rob Parker]

I'm, you know, I'm in my 60s, Dale. I don't want to adapt. I like what I like.

[Dell Curry]

Me too. Me too.

[Rob Parker]

Okay, Wemby, I said this earlier, is that. I mean, they call him the alien in the league. It's you. I hear people say this all the time. I watch him, but I've never seen him in person. You know, it's like when you see him in person, you're like, he towers over six, eight and a half guys. What? Last night he's, he's playing the Warriors. He puts up All Star games with eight minutes left in the second quarter. Do you have any comp for him? Have you ever seen anything like this?

[Dell Curry]

No. The comp used to be be as physical on his lower body as possible. I think the spurs have done a great job of getting him stronger so he can go against that attack. Obviously you want to keep him away from the basket on both ends as much as possible, but the guy shooting threes now, he's not going to block his shot. I don't know how you defend him without sending multiple guys at him. And now they have enough talent around him that he is an underrated passer. I've done a couple of games of his on prime where he. You run a play for him as a decoy and he's the passer. This guy's a total package. Look at that one dribble. He's at the rim, covers so much space. And just like I talked about Khan, if Wimmy's not having great offensive night, which is very rare, he affects the game. He can win you a game on the defensive end. So great talent, face of the league. He's going to be, if he's not already first time starter in the All Star game. And I think he's seriously just getting started, how good and how dominant he can be on both ends. He Seems like a guy that is in love with the game as well. You got a young guy with that much talent, that much hunger to be the best that he can be and to help his teammate, his teammates be the best that they can be in the franchise. Sky's the limit for the spurs as long as that guy stays healthy.

[Rob Parker]

Okay, I got one final question. You know, Steph can golf. You're a great golfer, so I'm not going to count anything off the tee. He's the younger guy is probably a little longer off the tee than you. But if you're a. But if you're 140 yards out and you both grab an eight iron, who's a better golfer?

[Dell Curry]

He is. But 140 yards out, I'm hitting the pitching ways. He's gapping it. He's hitting the gap wedge. I practice a lot more than he does, but he's got such a great touch around the greens. And a young guy thinks he can make everything that he stands over. But that's what handicaps are for. We, we have great, our summers are great. We take a couple of golf trips a year. Seth is a much improved golfer. Got a son in law that plays. We got a good group. We travel every year. So we talk more about golf down than basketball. As Steph's, you know, 17 years, 38. Seth's 12 years, 30 years old. Our golf communication and text thread is over the top.

[Rob Parker]

All right, let's show the. They, they retired his jersey. I want to go show that video again because, I mean, you're fired up here. A lot of guys pretend like they don't care. You're like, hell with that. I love in this, man. You're, you're, you're pumping your fist. They got the fireworks going. That was a great night. Wasn't.

[Dell Curry]

Was a great night. It was a good couple days. We had a little intimate dinner on the Wednesday before the Hornets organization. When they told me this was happening, a lot of emotions going on, I couldn't believe it, but I was looking, had so much time to prepare for this night. The boys were able to get in. They were on east coast trip. They were able to fly in. It was a great night. I didn't want to ruin it in any way. I wanted to slow down so that I could soak up everything that was happening. But it's still surreal for me to walk into the Spectrum center, look up and see number 30, curry up in the stands. You know, I played this game like my boys because of the fun of it. Because we loved it, fortunate enough to make a living out of it. And now I'm still here in Hornets organization, calling games, helping the guys. I love going to practice, still talking basketball, helping these young guys any way I can. So for me to be with this organization for almost three decades and now to get my jersey retired after 24 years of being retired as a player, all I've done in the community and as an ambassador for this team, I can't tell you how happy I am, how proud I am, how grateful, but also how humble I am to know this is a big deal not only for the Hornets organization, but the city of Charlotte. And I'm happy to represent that.

[Rob Parker]

You're great. But I just looked at this. The Hornets in 1993 with one Dell Curry, shot 11 threes a game. This year they're averaging 43.

[Dell Curry]

Oh, wow.

[Rob Parker]

The wild world we live in now, they're.

[Dell Curry]

They're averaging 16 makes a game in those. So, yeah, it's a wild world, man. I'm not one of these old guys that's going to say, I wish I was playing back today, but I think my game would fit in perfectly with how. Yeah, today's game as the NBA is played. But I love watching the game. It's entertaining. The league has a lot of good young players. I think the league's in a healthy spot.

[Rob Parker]

Yeah. Great. Great seeing you again. Congrats.

[Dell Curry]

Thanks, Al. Thanks for having me.

[Rob Parker]

Dell Curry, what a good guy. What a neat family. What a neat family, man. 140 out. Just grab a wedge. I got to start. I got. You know, J. Mac, you should take up golf because height doesn't matter. So I think you'd be very good at it.

[Colin Cowherd]

Well, it's funny, since I'm a natural athlete, I basically take up ping pong and I smoke you tennis. Same deal. So if you want to play golf, you know, we could do that. Best ball. Whatever you want to do, I'm in. I haven't picked up a club in maybe two years. Oh, I just grip it and rip it, baby.

[Rob Parker]

It's like how you do her line news. You just grip it and rip it. Be sure to catch live editions of the Herd, Weekdays at noon Eastern, 9am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, FS1 and the iHeartRadio app. Hey, it's me, Rob Parker.

[Dell Curry]

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[Dell Curry]

Heard on the news.

[Colin Cowherd]

This is the Herdline news. Yeah, I told the producers I think this quarterback is probably going to be the biggest name to watch this year. And that's C.J. stroud. Colin. Lot of stuff swirling about C.J. stroud. Brutal postseason, seven turnovers in two games. Lot of questions about his future. The Texans are likely to exercise his fifth year option guaranteeing him 25mil this season, but it sounds like they're in no hurry to sign him to a long term deal. Here's their owner, Cal McNair.

[Rob Parker]

Yeah, we'll let D' Ameco and Nick

[Dell Curry]

make the football decisions there, but they're exciting, really good young players. We'll hope to have them around a long time.

[Colin Cowherd]

You know, it's a good problem to have when you have so many guys you want to keep under contract. So if we keep drafting the way we do, this is just going to be something we talk about every year.

[Rob Parker]

Yeah, I'm still, I'm still team cj. I am.

[Colin Cowherd]

I mean, I don't know how you could bail on him again. It's tough to find a quarterback. There's half a do hell a dozen teams out there who could use him. But he was really bad in the playoffs and if they're starting to like sour on him, it feels like. No, no. I mean, Colin, if you can't, why wouldn't you just lock him up early? Well, even the Trevor Lawrence deal that Trevor Lawrence got in Jacksonville and he had. I don't even think he had a playoff win. No, he did have one. He beat the Chargers.

[Rob Parker]

I think they're probably working on it pretty quickly. I think. I think they're going to start working on it. He just had some really sloppy turnovers and bad footwork and that stuff's correctable. Having a weak arm and no athletic ability is not correctable. His stuff is correctable. No bad feet and, and kind of a loss of confidence with his feet. Mechanics are not good. Weird turnovers. I think he'll get out of it.

[Colin Cowherd]

Is it fair to say you think he's regressed since he, I mean it's, it's coaching matters.

[Rob Parker]

He may not have the right coach. Case. Was it Case Keenum left. He may not. Yeah, I think all that stuff Maddening quarterback. Listen, you said it before. Clint Kubiak lives, leaves Darnold. What if he pulls back? He's just not. He's 85% of what Sam was. Coaches in football, coaching's huge.

[Colin Cowherd]

Next Rams quarterback CJ Stroud.

[Rob Parker]

Post Stafford worth considering.

[Colin Cowherd]

Take a look at the Stroud agent and get back to me on that one, buddy. All right, let's move on to the Kansas City Chiefs. A wobbly franchise coming off a non playoff appearance and they're bringing back Eric B. Enemy to run the offense. Feel the excitement. Under B. Enemy, the Chiefs had one of the league's elite offenses. Now he did not call plays. That should be noted. Here's Andy Reid on the return of Eric sleeping with B. Enemy.

[Dell Curry]

We're fired up to him back. He brings great energy.

[Rob Parker]

He knows obviously the offense.

[Colin Cowherd]

He's very well respected by the players.

[Rob Parker]

I think he's a great leader of men and he really takes that to another level, you know, when he's in that position. Yeah.

[Colin Cowherd]

Third in the division.

[Dell Curry]

Yeah.

[Rob Parker]

It's weird. I, I, I, I got to tell you something. I think the Raiders are going to win seven, eight games. I think it's a, I think and

[Colin Cowherd]

you have the Broncos and Chargers in the playoffs.

[Rob Parker]

I think the Broncos are the best team.

[Colin Cowherd]

Yeah.

[Rob Parker]

I think the Jaden Waddle thing is just takes you over the I think Denver wins the division. I think Chargers going to be really good.

[Colin Cowherd]

So interesting. Let's, let's go through that real quick. Broncos at Jalen Waddle. Chargers at Mike McDaniel. Raiders get Mendoza the best center free agent out there.

[Rob Parker]

Ton of draft picks.

[Colin Cowherd]

What did the Chiefs do this offseason?

[Rob Parker]

They got Kenneth Walker and they're going to get a right tackle with their first pick. So their, their offense will be, the offensive line will be better. Simmons was good when he played at left tackle. He was very good.

[Colin Cowherd]

Well, we'll balance out the Kenneth Walker edition by losing Trent McDuffie maybe their second or first or second best defender.

[Rob Parker]

Oh, Trent McDuffie's a great player. I mean to me I would take him outside of Patrick certain I would probably take him as my second favorite.

[Colin Cowherd]

Sauce Gardner is still breathing.

[Rob Parker]

Yeah, Sauce. He's hurt. He wants to tackle anybody.

[Colin Cowherd]

Interesting. Chiefs did not get better this offseason, Kyle. Oh, they retained Travis Kelce. I forgot. Declining tight end. Final story Con let's go to the NBA. No, sorry, sorry. To basketball where we always talk about Tom Izzo. He recently revealed that he's almost made the jump to the NBA before as recently as last summer when the Suns were looking for a new head coach. Here is Izzo talking about that situation to Dan Patrick.

[Rob Parker]

I've had you know, more than a couple job offers in the, in the NBA and, and looked at one last year with Phoenix, you know, and my former player Matt Ispia and that was hard, that was a hard thing to turn down because number one, I, I kind of wanted to go with him. Wait, so they offered you the head coaching job? We talked seriously about it. Let's say that. Ooh, that's interesting.

[Colin Cowherd]

The Sun's recording a 70 year old college basketball legend to coach in the NBA. Now the Suns did not get him and it's worked out great. They're going to be in the play in and they might be feisty. They've had the Lakers number this year. That would be a big loss for college hoops though. I mean Izzo is on the Mount Rushmore of current college basketball coaches in the sport.

[Rob Parker]

I mean basketball. There's Hubie Brown broadcast forever. Bill Raftery still unbelievable. Tom Izzo, Rick Patino. If you have a young spirit about you, I don't care about your age. If you're old and crusty. Bobby Knight at 28:38 couldn't, couldn't have coached college NBA players. If you have a young spirit, if you like young people, Izzo Pitino, I mean Bill Raftery is still absolutely aces. Hubie Brown broadcast forever. They have a young joyful spirit. Basketball is creative, it's inventive and you gotta have the right spirit to be a coach in that league.

[Colin Cowherd]

Yeah.

[Rob Parker]

Jay mclews. Well that's the news and thanks for stopping by the Herd line news. He's bailing on us tomorrow. So tomorrow's headlines today next with J. Mac the Herd. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays at noon Eastern, 9am Pacific. Hey, herd sports and steak a perfect combo. True Nature Meats is offering an incredible deal. Their pre cooked New York strip. Insanely tender, juicy, rich beefy flavor that melts in every bite. Ready in just four minutes. In a skillet buy 10 New York strip steaks and get 10 free sirloin steaks. 20 restaurant grade steaks for about 740 per steak. Incredible value. Only 250 promo codes available. Head to TrueNature meats.com and use the promo code. Free steak Hurry. This won't last. Here's something that'll freak you out. Most people think their insurance will cover them if disaster strikes. But here's the truth. Many are wrong. You pay your premiums, you assume you're protected. Then the fine print hits. Exclusions, loopholes, limits. Suddenly that coverage you counted on isn't really coverage at all. It's not your agent's fault. Their job is to sell policies. You need somebody in your corner who protects you, not the insurance company. That's why I like my policy advocate. I like what they're doing. They take your actual policies. Home, life, auto, break them down in plain English. They show you what's really covered and what isn't. Here's the best part. Cost 27 cents a day. That's it. Less than a cup of coffee for peace of mind to make sure your family's protected when it matters most. When disaster hits, you don't want surprises. You want certainty. Before you assume you're covered, go to mypolicyadvocate.com let them review your policy. You might be shocked at what you'll find. MyPolicyAdvocate.com support for the show comes from public. Huh. I wonder if this can beat the market. Everyone's talking about the NASDAQ 100, but let's get more specific. Software, actually, too broad. How about software that's already profitable? Companies that beat the last five quarters. Oh, and I want founders who are marathon runners. That's discipline. Yeah, let's see what that looks like.

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[Colin Cowherd]

Yeah, it's interesting because North Carolina has a wide search happening right now. It's weird. Is this a great job? A good job? Has nil changed things? Names are in the mix. Out of the mix.

[Rob Parker]

Colin.

[Colin Cowherd]

My guess is the headline for the North Carolina job will be the Otts Father Tar Heels make an offer TJ can't refuse. I'm going with TJ Otzelberger from Iowa State. Now, it's interesting. A week ago he tried to remove his name from the process and some other coaches are also trying to remove their name. Yet there's nothing from UNC about who a leader is. We're not hearing any anything on interviews. It's very strange. Otzelberger, amazing recruiter. He's a Midwest guy. So you know the college basketball. Oh, he's not a regional fit. This guy knows basketball elite. And I'm talking top notch defense as Iowa State. He just hasn't had that superstar player to take him over the top. They've been a two or three seed the last three years, but they can't get over the Sweet 16 because in March you need that alpha, that superstar when the chips are down. He hasn't had that. I think he would be a home run at North Carolina. You know, I hear Jerry Stackhouse maybe coming. People are lobbying for Kenny Smith from inside the NBA. It is a weird search. These North Carolina fans are secular, Colin. They're very. They want one of their own.

[Dell Curry]

Yeah.

[Rob Parker]

All right, tomorrow's headlines. Today, the matchup. Arizona one seed. Michigan one seed.

[Colin Cowherd]

Yeah, listen, I loved Arizona. All season this team has been a juggernaut. Only two losses. They're loaded. However, in the Final Four, the headline for Michigan, Arizona will be. It's getting dusty in here. Michigan sends Arizona home in tears. I'm going with the Wolverines, Colin. This is going to be an amazing game. I'm leaning Wolverines simply because they're Big Ten tested. Big Ten, by far the best conference in America. I know SEC fans are all in Their feelings about how bad they've been in the NCAA tournament. Big 12 had a great run this year, but look at them in the tournament, the highest matchups. Big Ten has been great. And by the way, Purdue, did you see them push Arizona for a half? They just didn't have the horses in the front court. They led by seven at halftime against Arizona. This is a Michigan team, Colin. They, they don't have a weakness. They shoot the three. If they're shooting the three at like 35, 40%, forget it's over. So I expect a fast game here. I do give the edge to the Arizona backcourt, slight edge to Dusty May. We've seen Tommy Lloyd. I like him a lot. Some people want him to coach North Carolina. I've seen him slip up a little in the tournament, so I have some concerns about that. But I expect a great game. Really is a coin flip it open it to pick them. Michigan now favored by a little bit.

[Rob Parker]

Tomorrow's headlines today, the second game Yukon Illinois two and three seeds. I like Illinois here. What about you?

[Colin Cowherd]

Yeah, I'm. I don't want to give away my pick yet. I will say before the tournament did have Illinois in my brackets in the final four. Nobody cares about brackets. The headline for UConn vs. Illinois will be Caviar swishes and Champagne drains Illinois Euro steps over Husky Nation. I'm with you. I like Illinois here. By the way, fun stat. I put this on my Instagram. The last six teams to beat Duke in the NCAA tournament lost their next game. Colin, you know in sports you get very high when you take down a big dog. That win over Duke. I mean they're still partying in Source Connecticut and I just wonder how they react now. Some people are saying, well, UConn beat Illinois earlier and I was like earlier it was in November. Wagler played 13 minutes. He was like in his fifth college game. It meant nothing. This is an Illinois team. That's amazing passing, Colin. Big guys inside wings. I think this is a Stroyakovic game. I'll be betting his prop Wagler could struggle. UConn has an older backcourt, 22, 23 year old guides. I still like Illinois here. Big Ten all make it to the finals.

[Rob Parker]

Tomorrow's headlines Today the question that begs to be asked, who's the national champion?

[Colin Cowherd]

Yeah, you know it's tough not to like Michigan, but Illinois is on a like a legendary run here. Just absolute heater. Both these teams won all their tournament games by double digits. The headline for the national championship on Monday night Will be timeout. Michigan, clock's first title since 1989. Now, I know as a college basketball fan, you remember that Glenn Rice, Rumiel Robinson team in 89.

[Rob Parker]

Great team.

[Colin Cowherd]

Now Michigan, I believe, has lost four national championships since then. The Fab Five went back to back and lost. And then you had the. The Trey Burke team. And then you had that one team get eviscerated by Villanova with Jalen Brunson and company. I think they snapped the streak here. Listen, Michigan went to champagne. We talked about that game.

[Rob Parker]

I watched that game.

[Colin Cowherd]

It was like, whoa. I don't know how Illinois stops them. Illinois has a couple good bigs, the Twins. But besides that, they're not as big as Michigan.

[Rob Parker]

Between Mara Lend Michigan hits threes, they could blow out Arizona and Illinois. They're that good.

[Colin Cowherd]

Yeah. And if the three, you're right, Arizona is not a three point shooting team. Illinois is Illinois's offense number one in the country. I think it'll be a great game, but I will go Michigan, they'll probably be favored by four or five points. Yeah, I think they win it.

[Rob Parker]

All right. Finally, tomorrow's headlines. Today, who's the headline for the most outstanding player of the tournament?

[Colin Cowherd]

Yeah, you've hit on this theme in college football. Old guys win. That's what's happening in college sports now. Stick around longer. Make that nil money. The headline for most outstanding player in the Final Four will be. Lend me your ears, friends, countrymen, all vote for Yaksel Yoxel Lindeborg. Yeah, Colin, if we're talking about best college basketball stories in the last decade, I mean, this kid's amazing. He's 23 years old. He was at UAB for two years, and then all of a sudden last year kind of blows up. Everybody wants him, and now he turns into one of the best players in the country. Listen, the draft is going to happen in June and he's going to be picked somewhere. Yeah, but Colin, some of these sites do. Hey, analytically, here's where his numbers at his age match up with players. And Lenderborg is with a bunch of guys who didn't make it in the NBA because he's 23.

[Rob Parker]

Yeah. So my guess is he goes closer to like 10, 11, 12, 13, 14 and lands with a much better team and is their third best player.

[Colin Cowherd]

I mean, maybe even. Yeah, a rotational guy to start.

[Rob Parker]

Right? Yeah. Finally. Oh, that's it.

[Colin Cowherd]

Yeah. I like Lundenberg a lot. I know you do. His story with his parents. You know, I'm sure you heard this Reddit. His, his parents are really cracking down hard on him. Mom was like, you're not studying, you know, you're not going to be anything. And he turned it around. A real American story. You gotta love it. And it's been a great year for Michigan, by the way. Indiana football, Michigan basketball, your Big Ten take, maybe one of your better ones. This, this, this decade.

[Rob Parker]

Yeah, we said it three years ago. They have bigger colleges than the SEC. I mean, 40, 50,000. And the kids don't stay in the Midwest, they stay in Chicago a little, but Midwest is Cincinnati, St. Louis, Indianapolis, SEC kids, they go to Charlotte and Atlanta, Miami, big Big Ten kids, they flee to the coasts and they make really good money. And they, they come back and see their parents, they love their teams, and there's just so many graduates and Big Ten schools. There's a lot of millionaires and billionaires out of Big Ten schools. And they take incredible pride in their Midwest roots. And they write checks. And it's not about facilities anymore. It's not about high school recruiting. I don't even follow high school recruiting like I used to. It's about, can you go get about nine players a year in football and two to three in basketball, NBA level guys to solve your dilemmas. Michigan getting Mara from ucla. You can't score at the rim now on Michigan. I mean, you just can't get there. Great show today, J. Mac's going on vacay. Enjoy Vegas, buddy. He'll be back next week, next year. Well, he'll be back soon. Here's something that'll freak you out. Most people think their insurance will cover them if disaster strikes. But here's the truth. Many are wrong. You pay your premiums, you assume you're protected. Then the fine print hits. Exclusions, loopholes, limits. Suddenly that coverage you counted on isn't really coverage at all. It's not your agent's fault. Their job is to sell policies. You need somebody in your corner who protects you, not the insurance company. That's why I like my policy advocate. I like what they're doing. They take your actual policies, home, life, auto, break them down in plain English. They show you what's really covered and what isn't. Here's the best part. Cost 27 cents a day. That's it. Less than a cup of coffee for peace of mind, to make sure your family's protected when it matters most. When disaster hits, you don't want surprises, you want certainty. Before you assume you're covered, go to mypolicyadvocate.com let them review your policy. You might be shocked at what you'll find. MyPolicyAdvocate.com you ever wonder how far an EV can take you on one charge? Well, most people drive about 40 miles a day, which means you can do all daily stuff no problem. Go to work, grab the kids at school, get the groceries and still have enough charge to visit your inlet laws in the next county. But they don't need to know that. And the best part? You won't have to buy gas at all. The way forward is electric. Explore EVS that fit your [e-mail]

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