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The Herd with Colin Cowherd
THE HERD - Hour 3 - 4× World Series champion Dave Roberts joins The Herd
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listening to the Herd podcast. Be sure to catch us live every weekday on Fox Sports radio and noon to 3 Eastern, 9am to noon Pacific. Find your local station for the herd@foxsportsradio.com or stream us live every day on the iHeartRadio app by searching Fox Sports Radio or FSR.
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Carlos Boozer
Now let's get this party started.
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Colin Cowherd
Carlos Boozers around the corner. Dave Roberts, Dodgers manager as well. Bit of a stacked show today. Joel Klatt, dan Hurley. Sweet 16 starts tonight. UFL starts this weekend. Here's J. Mac with the news.
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Carlos Boozer
No no no. Heard on the news.
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Joel Klatt
I'm sure you were up late last night after baseball watching the Houston Rockets choke in overtime. Colin Unbelievable stat. They were up 13 in overtime and give up a 15 nothing run to end the game and lose to Minnesota. Randall with the game winner here. Unbelievable comeback by Minnesota and afterward, would you believe it? Kevin Durant fell on the sword, taking the blame for the loss.
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Kevin Durant
Miss shots, to be honest. I mean I'm knocking down shots, turn the ball over late in the game, we don't make shots. Team just be more aggressive to be in the paint and that could just cause more turnovers, more deflections and all that stuff. I really believe we've lost because I missed that free throw and I turned it over six times to be honest.
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Joel Klatt
He's not wrong, Colin. I don't know. This is an amazing stat in overtime games this year. The rockets are 1 7.
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Colin Cowherd
Well, they're not good in clutch time. They don't Have a pure point guard. There you go. So that's where you need your direction. When you watch them play, it's so obvious they can struggle to. You know, everybody wants to blame the coach. And my take is this is the Clipper issue. You know, we know Ty Lou's a good coach, and for years and years they didn't have a true point. Somebody that you really could depend on to elevate others and get you into the offense. At times it's just, you know, you're not going to win titles due to a point guard. Generally, Steph Curry's a little bit of an outlier there, but they get you in and out of offense. And it's not a shock that Houston's awful in like clutch games and bad overtime games because that's where you need that direction, that purpose.
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Joel Klatt
I mean, they went big. It's just backfired, you know, due to the injuries. It's unlucky. And I pray the Lakers get them in the first round. All right, let's go to the NFL. Colin. Obviously, free agency has changed the fortunes of several teams, but this list surprised me just a little bit. According to the other place, Here are the 10 most improved teams after free agency. Number one, the Pittsburgh Steelers. What? Yeah, they got better. They don't have a quarterback. How are they that improved? To improve means they've got to improve off making the playoffs. Two was the Niners, largely due to the Mike Evans move. Then you have the Lions, Saints, Broncos. I don't see the jets in the top 10, but that's par for the course.
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Colin Cowherd
I'm curious. I would put the Raiders number one.
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Joel Klatt
Yeah. So this list, if you drill down, leans heavily on skill, position players, you know, Rico Dowdle, the wide receiver, Michael Pittman. Like those are good gets for Pittsburgh, but that's not what puts you over the top in the off season.
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Colin Cowherd
The Raiders trenches, getting Tyler Linderbaum and a couple of defensive guys for Fernando Mendoza to me feels like I would do Raiders 1, Steelers were okay. Pittman's a good get. They didn't have a number two receiver.
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Joel Klatt
Yeah, I like what they did, but I'm with you. Raiders number one for sure. All right, let's get to the final story. Colin. That's to Major League Baseball, where we now have a list of the most popular jerseys in the sport. No surprise. Number one is Mr. Ohtani. Number two is his teammate Yamamoto, followed by Aaron Judge, Cal Raleigh, Mookie Betts. I mean, the Dodgers are all over the top 10. Four Dodgers in the top 10, Pete Crow Armstrong. Rounding it out at 10, Roman Anthony, one of the heroes from the World Baseball Classic at nine. Interesting. Colin, you've got two international players at the top.
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Colin Cowherd
Well, the Dodger brand helps a lot. Yeah. It's so weird to see Pete Alonso with the Orioles and not the Mets. That's. Yeah. I mean it's a star studded team. I'm trying to think of somebody that's missing from. I'm surprised Paul Skeens not on the list.
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Joel Klatt
I mean the picture. Pirates stink.
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Colin Cowherd
Well, it's also hard for pitchers. They're playing every fourth day, you know, every fourth game. Yeah, yeah.
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Joel Klatt
The one thing that jumped out at me was the international flair at the top. And I know it partially is Dodgers brand, but if you look at Major League Baseball and the NBA, those lists are littered with international players in the top 10.
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Colin Cowherd
Well, it's, it's what's interesting to me. The international player in basketball doesn't have the TV or shoe pull. Right, Right. They just don't. But yet the international player in baseball, and maybe it's because the two great ones are with the Dodgers. But in the international player is a fascinating Major league baseball star. But in international NBA, and a lot of it is, my guess is because baseball is not player reliant, it's brand reliant.
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Joel Klatt
Yeah.
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Colin Cowherd
So in the NBA, if you're, if your star isn't real handsome like an MJ or he's not really personality driven, it doesn't matter how good Jokic is, he doesn't sell jerseys or get ratings. In baseball, if the star doesn't need a big personality, if he's with the Yankees or the Cubs or the Dodgers or the Braves. Baseball, I think it's always been, it's like ufc. UFC is a good business, but it is kind of star reliant to some degree. Jon Jones and Conor McGregor are gone. It's not the same sport. It dips same in the NBA. It's very difficult. Even television networks, you know, they don't want to be personality driven. They like to have personalities. But you want to be, you want to have games and leagues and a broad menu of things that people are attracted to. J Mac with the news.
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Colin Cowherd
A multiple medal winner, a multiple all star. When he went to Duke, he was an all American and now his son is not only an all American, but could be maybe a top three pick in the NBA draft. It's Carlos Boozer who's currently A scout and advisor for the surging Utah Jazz, who are crossing their fingers. Good to see you. So Cam's a freshman Cadence. A freshman. And first of all, it's nerve wracking as a dad to watch your son. Your sons are very good, but I do want to, I want to go down to your kids. So, you know, Cameron is the bigger player. He's six nine cadence, you know, six four. So very early in the process as a dad, and we all know this as parents, you can have two kids, totally divergent personalities and styles very early. Were they similar players stylistically or different? Were their personalities the same or different as a dad watching?
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Carlos Boozer
Good to see you, brother. It's been a while, man. Good to see you. Look good. You look good, buddy.
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Colin Cowherd
Appreciate it.
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Carlos Boozer
Yeah, I mean, they, they were, they. I was the big believer in being able to do a little bit of everything, like be, be able to play all positions, not knowing that, you know, the game was going to end up being a police positionless basketball at the highest level. But you know, we taught them to be guards and to be post up players and to be able to shoot, pass and dribble and do all the skills so they could be versatile. So they really were similar. Cameron just grew a little bit taller, a little bit quicker.
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Colin Cowherd
I said this about Cameron when I watched him this year. I said, he reminded me of you. I said, great hands, great feet, great awareness. You know, he's not a 49 inch vertical jump guy, but what I like about him is it's, he's, he's a guy that can play within a team construct. And you took a lot of pride in that. The feet, the hands. Was he always that kind of athlete? Like, I mean, some things you can teach, some things you can't. Did Cam, was he always move the feet? Well, because you guys get to be 6, 9, 6, 10, a lot of times the feet don't work, they don't slide, they don't move as well. Did you know early that Cam, like you could see the talent?
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Carlos Boozer
Yeah, absolutely. He's always been super coordinated. I mean, I remember taking them snowboarding for the first time in Breckenridge, Colorado, and he picked it up so fast on the first day. He was going down, you know, like a blue at like 7, 8 years old. He's just very coordinated. And his. What I love about him is his poise, you know, his poise on the block. He has great patience down there. He's able to read the double. He gets kick, gets double teamed every game. The entire game does a good job of finding his teammates, but he just has a great, yeah, has a really great poise to him and it's been fun to watch.
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Colin Cowherd
How has your NBA career helped him? Like, what have you added and you thought to yourself maybe, boy, I'm glad
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Carlos Boozer
Yeah. I just think the experience, right. Like the good thing about the boys for Cameron and Kaden and my oldest son Carmani too, they've been around it. You know, they've come in the locker room, they've met D. Rose and Kobe and Jimmy Butler and all these different guys. They've been around the game their whole life, so they've seen what's possible. And I think for them that's been a great, you know, adolescence for them, especially in the summertime. They train with most of these guys in the summertime. They work out with a lot of pros with their trainers in Miami and they get a chance to get, you know, not necessarily beat up, but they get a chance to improve and get and get schooled by some NBA guys. So when they come play in college or wherever they may be at, they have a little bit of an insight. But they, because they've been around the game so much, they, their IQ is through the roof to be 18 year olds.
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Colin Cowherd
What the hell are you doing in our studio? Get him, Paulie. Ignore that fool. Listen to the Paulie and Tony Fusco
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Colin Cowherd
usually when you lose a legend, and I can give 20 examples, the next coach is not as good as the legend. Sometimes he's not good at all. So Duke went Coach K to John Shire and they're great. And it's very in the history of college football and basketball doesn't work that way. There's always a drop off. Why do you think it worked? Why do you think Shire from Coach K has been so seamless?
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Carlos Boozer
Yeah, I think some people don't even know this, but a lot of people should study. Shire was a hell of a player. Hell of a player and terrific basketball player. And he also coached under Coach K for nine years. So he learned a great deal. He has a huge basketball iq. He loves to study the game and you know, isn't a young infancy stage in his career, but man, he's got the best recruiting class three out of the last four years, the best player in college basketball the last two years for sure. And he's been able to implement and put his fingerprints on the program, do it his way, bringing his staff with his style. And I just think that it goes to some of his basketball genius on how good of a coach he is to have. But think about this. You lose your entire starting five to the NBA a year ago and you come back this year and you're arguably having maybe even a better season, right? And you got the number one overall seed. You got probably the national player of the year again. And he's right back at it with a chance. You know, big games this weekend, but they have a chance to get right back to the Final Four with a chance to cut the nets down. That's, that's the mark of a hell of a coach. Don't get me wrong. You got to have the players. But a lot of, a lot of, a lot of coaches can have the players and fumble it. He hasn't done that.
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Colin Cowherd
So you know the old guys, Patino and he got Carlisle and you got Izzo, Rick Barnes. I've made the argument that there's a bit of a renaissance with the old coaches crushing in college sports, because now it's not as much recruiting, it's administrative. It's writing checks. So Bill Belichick could not have coached college football. Fifteen years ago. You had to be at high school football games. And now a lot of it, you sit in your office, you get on the phone, you talk to an agent or whatever. I love the old coaches. I like big brands. I like. I like coaches. So it's Patino and John Shire facing off tomorrow night when you watch Pitino misses fourth team. He's gotten into the Sweet 16. What's his. What do you think? What do you hear? His magic potion. What is it with Patino?
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Carlos Boozer
Man, I've been very fortunate to get to know Luke Hancock, who played for Pitino at Louisville, was an MLP for that 2013 team when they won it. And just he tells stories about Rick all the time. But Patino is a hell of a coach, man. We all know it. Legendary. Gets the most out of his players. Even teams that may not be that talented, they got kind of a grit to him, and I think they take on his personality. He has that kind of a grit to him. You see him always working the sideline, talking and teaching. He's been very, very successful for decades, and to me, it's because he gets the most out of his team. Obviously, I don't know him personally, but the stories I heard is he's able to hit the right buttons at the right time to get the most out of his players. Think about that story. Just last weekend, the kid Darling wasn't having a good shooting night, but calls the play for himself, and he trusts his players and lets him hit the game winner against who they were playing against. So that takes a lot of confidence from a coach who's been around the block a while.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah, it was Kansas, if I recall. Yeah, Kansas. So it. It. One of the things that is. I think the NBA is much more physical than people say. I think it's hard. You go from 35 college games to 80 NBA. And in the NBA, bro, that game is fast. And you got to play D or you're going to get embarrassed. In college sometimes it depends on the matchup. But you're not facing pros. And so also the NBA can play with your head because you're in big cities now. You got social media, the fans are Beating up on you and you're sitting on your phone in the hotel in the afternoon. I gotta tell you, I worry about Darren Peterson. I. I know he's a great player, but he missed 11 games. Carlos. He plays a little bit in a silo. You know, he's not an assist guy. He's kind of. When he's on the floor, he's going to get the ball. But what really worries me is he admitted it wasn't just injuries that got into his head. And I think one of the things I like about Cooper Flagg, he doesn't overthink it. Get me the ball, I'm attacking the basket. He's aggressive everywhere on the floor, both ends. Do you worry a little bit when a star player has durability issues? I mean, NBA is way more physical in college. Admits it kind of got into his head. I. If I was a draft guy, I would that. And this is such a great draft. Your son, Acuff, the kid at byu. Does it worry you when you hear about. Man, some of this may have gotten into my head.
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Carlos Boozer
Well, I think you got to talk to the kid. You know, I haven't personally done that about this season yet. And obviously we'll. We'll go through our process when that time is here. We still have a lot of basketball left to be played, and there's some time before the draft. But you want to talk to the kid and see where his mind was at or where his mind is. Talk to the family, talk to the. The people who represent him. Get to know more about his injuries and what his body may have gone through. Maybe he went through something that we were unaware of, but the biggest thing is his talent shows out. Like, the kid can play, there's no question about that. One of the purest scorers that we've seen in college basketball this year. So you want to get down to the nitty gritty so that you can make an informed decision for your team.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah. You're a scout and an advisor for the Utah Jazz. Do you do international or is it domestic, where you know, when you're doing scouting stuff, are you everywhere they need you?
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Carlos Boozer
Yeah, wherever they need me. I primarily do college. It's convenient for me because my kids are in college, so I get to see a lot of great basketball and a lot of great talent. But I've watched high school. I've watched a couple European guys, too, but primarily just getting us ready for the draft.
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Colin Cowherd
Hey, by the way, I got another question before I get the draftkings. This kid From Carolina, this Caleb Wilson kid. I'm watching his YouTube last night. It's. That kid is. I think he's, like, not even. He's totally untapped. And I know you can't talk too much about players, and I know he's a Carolina guy, but if I said in five years, like, people look back at Caleb Williams and go, how did he get drafted? 7th. Can you give me. If you see a little bit of him, what do you make of him?
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Carlos Boozer
No, I know him really well. He played with my kids in travel ball. They won the EYBL championship under the Nike circuit last summer before they became freshman in college. Super talented man. Super athletic, has a great feel for the game. He's going to be a stud for a long, long time. And it's just unfortunate that he kept getting hurt at the end. Like, we all wanted to see him in March Madness. We all wanted to see what he was able to do when the stakes were on the table and at the brightest, but has a super, super bright future. And he's a great kid, great family. We love his parents. So. Huge, huge ceiling for this kid. And I'm looking forward to seeing what he does at the next level.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah, it matters. Good parents. You know, he just seems like a kid that just every time you watch him, he's better. And we're watching some of his highlights. Okay, you work. What do you got going on with DraftKings?
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Carlos Boozer
Yeah, just listen, guys out there, if you're going to bet, bet responsibly. Go to DraftKings. It's a great time of year. All the games have been pretty close. They have a super app that's coming out where you can do everything at Draft King, and I have to bounce around. There's also some mystery. Best you can do. So stay tuned. Go to DraftKings. And again, bet responsibly.
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Colin Cowherd
You look good.
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Carlos Boozer
Thanks, man. Not bad.
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Colin Cowherd
You still going? You know, you're still putting on the shoes and going out there. When's the last time you played against your sons?
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Carlos Boozer
Oh, no, no, no. I retired and defeated when they were like 15, kind of. I don't know. Once I started seeing them jump around the rim and got all these new dribble moves and James Harden sidestep moves, I'm like, nah, nah. I'm gonna retire undefeated.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah, smart dad is smart.
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Colin Cowherd
Carlos, great seeing you.
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Carlos Boozer
Great seeing you, man. See you soon.
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Colin Cowherd
All right. Utah is really a fascinating place. I. I used to go to some Utah Jazz games. I Love their arena. Smart owner. It's a very collegiate feeling. So, I mean, they're one of those organizations that all the people in Utah understood the tanking stuff. Like, they all get it, Danny. Everybody gets the game. It's not like the NFL where you can be terrible. Oh, we got a quarterback. We're good. New England in the super bowl, got the right coach. It doesn't work that way in the NBA, so it takes years and years and years. And the NBA now, they don't allow a lot of this cap stuff. Right. Like the. Like the NBA, it's hard to make trades. Well, what does that do? It forces you. If you're the Utah Jazz, you're like, well, how do we. How do we get good fast for our fans? We got. We gotta get lottery picks. So that's why I'm not one of these. Tanking's the worst thing in the world. You're not letting people make big moves and big trades. You're limiting all these owners and general managers. These are smart guys. So of course they're gonna do what Utah's doing. Absolutely. And Utah's pushed back. They're like, hey, we're not. We don't call it tanking. You know, we're just getting our young guys some seasoning. But, you know, if you're limiting in the NFL, there's a million I can draft, I can go free agent, I can do trades. You could trade a star tomorrow. Well, you don't have to tank, right? I got like six avenues to get better. NBA now is one. Didn't used to be one. Eight, seven eight years ago. It didn't used to be one avenue. Now it is. Well, shock. The tanking's increased. All right, Dave Roberts, Dodger manager, around the corner.
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Colin Cowherd
Dodgers open the season Yankees 7 over the Giants last night got to Logan Webb early. Diamondbacks at the Dodgers Dave Roberts, who pulled all the right levers in game seven. One of the great baseball games. I'm old enough to remember the Carlton Fisk Fenway park against Cincinnati. It had, it was one of those games with a Cubs World series win. Dave Roberts, 11th season as a Dodger manager, is now joining us. He just signed that new contract. So last year when we talked there was constant drama with the bullpen. It was season long band aids and Bondo just trying to patchwork it. Then you go get Edwin Diaz. So it kind of changes not the culture but the psychology. Take me to now. You go into the ballpark, you're already there for tonight's game knowing you've got a closer. How does it change how you manage?
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Dave Roberts
It does. You know, I think it's one of those things that, you know with whether it's any type of leadership, CEO, business, managing a baseball team, you sort of go with what you have, assess it and then you kind of try to make the most of it. Right. And I think that we really didn't have a defined closer last year. And so we were trying to find spots for Tanner Scott, you know, different guys. And then there was injuries, there was performance and you're just trying to figure out how to get 27 outs. But yeah, now you get Edwin Diaz who, you know, left money on the table to come to Los Angeles to come to the West Coast. And so now you can work from the back end and have your guy at the back end and then sort of fill in the gaps there. So it's huge, man. And, and he's a very business like guy calling. He just wants to do his job close to his family and then just wanted to be a Dodger. So huge get for us.
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Colin Cowherd
You know, Kyle Tucker's interesting in Chicago. He frustrated fans because he's kind of just comes to the ballpark in place. He's not, you know, not a big personality. And you know, in Chicago, Wrigleyville, it's, it's like, you know, watching English Premier League Soccer, it's rowdy, it's wild, it's everybody's lubricated. I kind of think his personalities works in la. Let's talk about that on a star studded roster. How he fits your culture.
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Dave Roberts
I think he fits seamless and I do think that you nailed it in the sense of his personality is just kind of put on the hard hat, go to work and then do it again the next day. And so he doesn't do the self promotion. He doesn't kind of do the crazy celebration antics. He just wants to play baseball. Just had a baby, so he's excited about that. And again, he left money on the table to play for the Dodgers. And then so when you're looking at Shohei, Freddie, Mookie, you know, Will Smith, Yamamoto, some other guys, we have Blake Snow. I just think that, you know, even for me, you're going to see him hitting second today and that's what he's going to be doing at the outset and looking out beyond and just get on base. We don't need you to slug, play good defense, run the bases, do you, and help us win baseball games. So I do think that this fit makes a lot of sense, you know,
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Colin Cowherd
Dave, and it's certainly not a weakness, but it's something I thought about knowing you were going to come on the show today is that, listen, he's another big stick. I mean, if, you know, if he hits 30 bombs for you, it wouldn't surprise me. But as you know, you can be as gifted as Freddie Freeman or Ohtani and struggle in the postseason because the pitching so good in the postseason. Do you worry about with this team that you have so much power, does it hurt your ability to manufacture runs without, you know, like I said last night, the Yankees had nine singles. I'm said they were. Aaron Judge was over five. I'm like, that's actually in a weird way, encouraging. Do you worry that, man, we got a lot of big sticks, can we still manufacture runs? Do you think about that?
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Dave Roberts
You know what? I do. And I think that that was more of an indictment probably on teams we had a few years ago in the sense of we just slug and we can't get hits. And it's interesting that, you know, the batting average is devalued, has been devalued over the, let's say the last 10 years. But when you get into the postseason, people want base runners, they want to get hits. And how do you drive in a run when you're Facing the best pitching. And I will say this is that guys to a man, know how to get on base, they control the strike zone and they know how to get hits. And so that's talking about getting a hit, you know, with two strikes, with guys in scoring position, with two outs, facing good pitching, knowing how to hit the outfield grass. And so I don't worry about that with this ball club. And I'll tell you this right now is 1 through 9. It's a relentless lineup. And so that pitcher is going to be at 100 pitches in the fourth, fifth inning and that's a grind. So I think that with our lineup we should be able to get to starters and get to the pen early and see how it goes. So yeah, I'm not too worried about, you know, just a slug because I do feel we can manufacture runs if we need to.
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Colin Cowherd
With Ohtani, Shohei Ohtani, do you have a game plan going in or is it one of those. We're just going to communicate, we're going to see how he feels, you know, I mean you've, you've got essentially a player that does something nobody else does. How do you management manage it opening day on. Do you have to be super communicative in this relationship?
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Dave Roberts
Yeah, absolutely. So he's going to start the fifth game of the season and he's already up to 85 pitches. So I think it's for me as far as managing the game when he pitches, we're going to manage it. I'm going to manage it the way to help us win a game and obviously manage his stress in a particular game, the pitch count, all that stuff. And then as far as the hitting, you know, last year we started out with him with throwing one inning and then repeating that a couple times to then build a two, then three. So it didn't really impact the DH role where now the jumping off point is five, six innings. So that's something we're going to monitor and see that we're not going to be holding, be beholden until like he has to DH every time he pitches. We'll kind of manage that, see how he feels. But yeah, there's constant communication going on. But man, what a player.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah, what, what, what was your opening message in spring for this group of star studded Dodgers? What is the coming off back to back titles? Can you have a new message? What is the message?
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Dave Roberts
Yeah, you know, some of the, some of it is like, you know, the old continuing to reinforce that our guys do a very good job of mining the little things. And I think it's just the whole idea of just winning a baseball game. And, you know, whether it's spring training, it's game seven of the World Series, it's opening day in 20, we have a certain standard of excellence. And I think that even when you watch us, Colin, how we play the game, run the bases, play defense, it matters how we practice. I think the message as far as keep the blinders on, get the blinders on, look forward, I reference a greyhound. You know, when a greyhound's in a race, they're chasing the lure and they're not looking at who the competition is to the side. And I think that the lure is right there, that trophy. And. And we're chasing that trophy, and it doesn't matter who's beside us, who's behind us, who's chasing us. And I think it's just more of just keeping the focus on ourselves.
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Colin Cowherd
Well, you've got, you know, you've only got two trophies behind you when you just won your third as a manager. What? What?
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What?
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Colin Cowherd
Where's the third?
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Dave Roberts
Yeah, the third. See the trophies, they gotta. They gotta come back. So I'm trying to move so you can see them. The third one is en route, So I got 20, 24, 25 is en route. Tomorrow we'll get our 25 World Series rings. So hopefully we do this again in 12, 14 months. And then I'll have four behind me.
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Colin Cowherd
Okay, Just. Just cross your fingers on Amazon. You never know. They're usually on time. You just hope they. Hope they deliver. It's great seeing you, and I know you got a little golf in, but you're just a credit to the sport and you're a gentleman and I love you coming on the show and I appreciate it. Thanks, Dave.
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Dave Roberts
I love what you do, man. Thanks for having me on.
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Colin Cowherd
You bet. Dave Roberts already in the office. They're heavy favorites to three, Pete. And listen, man, that Edwin Diaz in the close, closing it for this team, that was a. We said it before, 26 saves last year. Think about that. You in a World Series. They went into the playoffs having blown 26 saves. So it was a. It was a Dodger fans. You know, it's so funny because when the bullpen struggles, the manager gets all the heat. You're not pulling the right levers. It's like you got to get people out. There's only so much a manager can do. J. Mac, we had. We don't do many, four guest shows, but we had all of the guests we wanted to get on this Week called us back. Yeah. So thanks to Dan Hurley, Joel Klatt, Carlos Boozer, Dave Roberts. Carlos Boozer is one of the nicest guys.
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Joel Klatt
He is. Yeah.
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Colin Cowherd
Just, you know, it was interesting when he was talking about that it's such an advantage. You know, his kids are practicing against NBA guys. They've been in the arenas. That's why so many professional athletes. That's another reason why, you know, their kids do well. It's like a constant internship from the time the kids are 6 years old to the time they're drafted. They're around all these coaches and all these arenas and intensity. So, you know, high IQ kids. Dad was smart. Kids are not a surprise.
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Joel Klatt
Yeah. You know, John Shire, I believe, is, what, 38 years old. Do we have the age on the. On the St. John's is he, like, 73 years old? Well, I mean, the gap in these coaches is crazy. One of them has seen everything.
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Colin Cowherd
So rare. I mean, Jim Calhoun left. I think it was Kevin Ollie took over the job. They had some initial success, but it didn't really work. I mean, it just doesn't happen very often, generally in college football, you know, here, like, Harbaugh leaves and they hire somebody that's got proximity on the staff. This happens all the time. You hire somebody that the players know and already like, and the guy goes to the NFL or he goes to another job, and it's like, well, but proximity to greatness does not equal greatness.
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Carlos Boozer
No.
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Colin Cowherd
And I grew up in the Pacific Northwest, where Oregon State basketball, Washington football, you know, would go with a guy that was closest to the legendary coach. So for Duke to go with John Shire, who has a totally different personality than Mike Krzyzewski, knows the program, and for it to be this good, I mean, go look at the. Look. Go look at North Carolina. They just fired Hubert Davis.
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Joel Klatt
But define this good. Define this good. Because they were the favorites last year and blew it down the stretch.
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Colin Cowherd
Well, blew it. You know, it's. It's.
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Joel Klatt
Well, that was a historic meltdown. Now, I may have been heavily invested in Duke last year, and that one still stings. I remember where I was when the meltdown was happening. It was. It was J. Mac was down bad in that one, Colin, and that was a meltdown. There's. With Cooper Flag. I mean, and Con Canymple. You got two guys who are dominant in the NBA and you lose.
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Colin Cowherd
That's fair.
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Joel Klatt
That was brutal. So Shire's got. If it gets tight against Patino, who I did look up. He's 73. Who gets the edge? Well, I think you gotta go Patino.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah, Patino. There's an argument he's the best coach in college basketball and if you include the NBA, he's a top 10 coach. I mean he's all time.
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Joel Klatt
That worries me, man.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah, well they beat beat UConn a couple times early so Patino knows and, but and St. John's can't really shoot so to be a Sweet 16 team without really knock down guys on the perimeter at all. We'll see you on a Friday. Rick Neuheisel tomorrow. Whether you want to maximize your performance or form healthier habits this year, knowing
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