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The Herd with Colin Cowherd
THE HERD - Hour 3 - Albert Breer from The MMQB stops by The Herd, Tomorrow's Headlines Today
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Colin Cowherd
To the Herd podcast. Be sure to catch us live every weekday on Fox Sports Radio and noon to 3 Eastern, 9am to noon Pacific. Find your local station for the herd@foxsportsradio.com or stream us live every day on the iHeartRadio app by searching Fox Sports Radio or FSR. Now let's get this party started.
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Jason McIntyre
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.
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Colin Cowherd
He's a senior NFL reporter Monday morning quarterback and he loves college football as much as I do and I want to start there with Albert Breer is now joining us live. So kind of overlooked in Elaine Kiffin situation is the one way to leave Ole Miss and not alienate a conference that you could come back to is to go pro and everybody would be like okay, Ole Miss, Ole Miss to the jets or Ole Miss to the Giants. Everybody gets that right. Wherever he goes in the S.E.C. it's just, it's messy. Especially because it's the great all time Ole Miss season. I believe that he's got NFL interest right side of the ball, young former player, attitude, presence. What do you hear?
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Albert Breer
Yeah, I think the NFL would be interested in him. Quite honestly the NFL has been interested in him before. Of course he was a head coach in the NFL for a brief time with the Raiders. We all know how that ended with the overhead projector and and Al Davis and All of that. But there was a point where the NFL was interested him in him as an assistant when he was the offensive coordinator at Alabama before he went to Florida Atlantic. I remember talking to a few college scouting directors, guys who are out there on the trail who would tell me like, you know, this is one thing that could be an interesting idea for someone. And remember that was when Chip Kelly was in Philadelphia and there was a lot of fascination with college offenses. Right. And here was a guy who had sort of incorporated spread principles into his west coast background. And so he was sort of doing both, you know, and being able to give college kids some grounding in a, in a, in a, in a pro offense while doing the spread things that got them up and running fast. And so this is something the NFL has looked at in the past. Again, of course he's been a head coach, but they did look at him as an assistant about, about a decade ago. And I do think that if, you know, word got out there that he was really interested in going to the NFL because that pipeline has run sort of dry with all the turnover there is in the pros. I do think NFL teams would show an interest in him.
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Colin Cowherd
So the teams that can get a Mendoza in the draft or a Dante Moore either have two first round picks like the Rams or Cleveland or Dallas. Now Dallas doesn't need a quarterback, clearly, or a roster that is really loaded. And you feel like, I mean, the Colts are like, guys, we're going to resign. Daniel Jones, our old line's good. We just solved our one issue. Sauce Gardner. We like our roster. I'm going to throw this out to you. So Seattle's got a stack roster. Yeah, they like Sam Darnold a lot. But I watched that game and I thought to myself, and I know John Snyder is going to college football venues looking long term at quarterback. Right. You have to. I mean, he looked at Josh Allen when Russell Wilson was going to Super Bowls. What about a team like, what did you make of the Sam Darnold performance? Is it just one of those, hey, Sam is. But you look at that, the game against the Rams last year. Yeah, the game against the Lions. Could you see a, a good team now taking a big swing and because Darnold would have Albert a massive market. Dante Moore stays in college of a massive market. What do you make of Darnold in Seattle after that performance or no big deal?
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Albert Breer
I don't think it's a big deal. I think he's got a Rams problem. You know, quite honestly, like the two games against the ra, that's a problem because you're in the NFC West. But there's something that Chris Shul has been able to do against Sam Darnold that it clearly is working. It worked in the Minnesota game last year, it worked in the Seattle game this year. So there is like a hump that Sam's got to get, get over. But I've got the statistics up right now. And this is even with that game against The Rams, the three interception game against the Rams factored in, he's seventh in the NFL and passer rating, he's seventh in passing yards, he's 10th in touchdown passes. And, and he's first in yards per attempt. He's elevated Jackson Smith at Jigba, who is already a really good receiver, to maybe becoming the best receiver in football. He's helped them mitigate some of the issues they've had on their offensive line. He's been everything they wanted and he's relatively affordable. He's, he's, he's getting paid just over $30 million per year for 26 and 27. So they have him under contract for a, for, for, for a few years and you look at like where they are and yes, John Snyder's always looked at these, these, these, these big picture ideas. And one of the things I remember hearing that the Seahawks were doing all the way back in the day, right, like when Russell Wilson was on the rookie quarterback, they even considered the idea, do we churn quarterbacks? Like, what would that look like if somebody tried to keep taking advantage of that, that, that benefit of having a quarterback on a rookie contract? So they've thought creatively on these things in the past, but I think Sam's done too good a job for them. He's too affordable for the next couple of years and there's too much in a window now with the group of players. They have, I think a really good team there to turn the apple card upside down, a quarterback. So I don't mind the idea and I'm sure John has thought of everything. I just don't think they're going to do it right now.
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Colin Cowherd
All right, throwing it out there. Okay, so Nick Wright said something this week I thought was really interesting. He said because of Shador's history, the speeding tickets, the iffy judgment, you know, tanking some pre draft interviews, that this start against the Raiders, if it goes sideways, it's really ugly. Does he get another start? Like the whole league is watching this game. The Raiders aren't good. That, that he has done himself a Bit of a disservice with a lack of self awareness. Some immaturity, likable kid that. This. This actually means a lot for Shador. Like he needs to be mid or up. Do you.
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Colin Cowherd
Do you.
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Albert Breer
I mean, I think the default. I think the default for Kevin Stefanski is just to turn back to Dylan Gabriel. And Dylan Gabriel is healthy. So I think she door's got to overcome that in the short term to. To. To. To get a shot to continue as the starter. Right. So, yes, this is an audition, but I think there's a relatively high bar to clear there. Like, he's got to play well. It can't just be so. So. And part of the problem, Colin, is all the things that you heard scouts talk about before the draft and stuff that I was trying to tell people. People back then that I was hearing from all these people. Like all of that stuff showed up in the game against the Ravens. He doesn't have great sense. He doesn't see it fast enough. He bails out of the back of the pocket and tries to run away from the rush that way. Like all of that stuff was showing up. And not only is that not good for the team, it's not good for his own development if bad habits are being reinforced in game action. So I think the biggest thing you're looking for from Shedeur is. Is breaking some of those habits. Can he do that on the fly? Can that happen with the Browns having a chance to build a game plan around him and a relatively weak opponent on deck this week with the Raiders? You know, I think that's what you're looking at here is can he move past some of the things that he was criticized for before the draft. If so, maybe they think about continuing to start him. If not, then I think they put him right back where he was as a developmental player on their roster. They got there, look at him, and then maybe they look at him again in 2026. But I don't have any reason to believe that the Browns quarterback for 2026 is on the roster right now. And I think for Shador, this is as much about just getting another chance to show what he can do in December more so than it is about establishing anything for the future.
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Colin Cowherd
So I have to end with this. And it's a. It's a real story. I mean, Josh Allen got hit 12 times. They don't have a deep threat. They couldn't get the plan on time.
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Colin Cowherd
Even Houston ran on him in the first half. And, And. And Brandon Bean got very Spicy with local media this offseason when they ripped him for the draft and they said all you did is draft defensive players. We. Josh Allen needs more help. So, I mean, I. This year, Josh Allen has lost to last night to a Michael Panetta and Davis Mills. Okay, that's just not good enough. And we're getting. And it's a standalone game. And you know, Albert, that matters. I, I do not see this as a Super bowl team. I thought the Texans have a better roster. I. And I did not feel that two, three years ago. I think the Heat's getting Ratched. I don't think you can keep losing to see level quarterbacks. I think that loss means something last night. I really do. Do you?
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Albert Breer
I mean, it depends, right, like, what happens the rest of the year. And is this a blip or is it something more? Because we now have four losses to go on and you know, really like, I think the, like, like going forward, the way you look at this, Josh Allen turns 30 in May and like, how, how much more of this can the Bill's ownership take? And looking at where they're at, I view it a little bit like. And I think the right comparison here is Tony Dungy in Tampa. Where, like when, when, when, when. Tampa was when. When Tony Dungy first got to Tampa in the mid-90s, he completely turned that organization around. They were able to flip it on the strength of a historic defense with John lynch and Warren Sapp and Derek Brooks, and they kept knocking on the door and everybody loved Tony Dungy and he'd done such a great job. And then eventually after seven years, it got to the point where, okay, like, we're not there. Ownership started courting Bill Parcells. They wind up trading for Jon Gruden and the rest is history. I don't think the Bills are there yet, but I would say, like, when you've got a talent like this, like Josh Allen is the Bills version of what Tampa had in that defense. Right. And you keep knocking on the door and he's getting older. The pressure, of course, is going to be on everybody to continue to put the best team they possibly can around him, to put him in the best situation possible. And, and I think a couple of things that really stuck out last night was the Bill's inability to deal with. Deal with the defensive front of the Houston Texans. I think the Bills got out coached on that side of the ball. And then you see no Dalton Kincaid that had an impact. Keon Coleman, who was a high second round pick, isn't out there. With them. All of those are issues. I think as you go on, you can say Brandon bean and Sean McDermott have done a fantastic job completely rebuilding that bill's organization and changing who they are and helping that stadium get built and being the ones who brought Josh Allen in. But of course, having a talent like that on your roster and Josh Allen getting older does create a sense of urgency for everyone involved.
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Colin Cowherd
Now, J. Mac and I had a disagreement earlier. I said, in Philadelphia, the media is hyper aggressive and they keep going to A.J. brown's locker and asking aggressive questions and he won't bite. Like one of them was, you know, your numbers are down. What does that say about you? And he said, well, Saquons are down. That doesn't mean he's a bad player. I thought that was totally appropriate. J. Mac is like, this guy's starting fires. And I'm like, listen, the Philadelphia media is aggressive. Newspaper, tv, sports, radio. I wonder what the fissures like. Is it overplayed by people like me that aren't there? And for the record, Philadelphia is noisy in a good year, isn't it?
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Albert Breer
It's. The fissures are there, but they've been there. And I would just tell you that that's sort of been the, the sort of cadence for this team over the last few years. That locker room's got a lot of big egos in it. There are a lot of mouths to feed. Jalen Hurts hasn't always been the most well liked person. That building AJ Brown can be volatile. Jalen Carter isn't the easiest guy to deal with either. They've been able to bring all these personalities and egos together in the name of building the most talented roster possible. This is where the value of Nick Sirianni is, though, Colin. I mean, his value isn't as a quarterback developer. It isn't as an offensive schemer or play caller. His value is in his ability to manage people and to bring people together and, and to deal with these sorts of brush fires. And I think that's the one thing people miss on Sirianni is he'll put the fire out. With A.J. brown, he'll manage Jalen Carter, he'll deal with. With Jalen Hurts. Like all of the big personalities, all the big egos, all of the big money guys that are in there, not everybody can manage that. And I think in that way, Sirianni is even a little bit like Mike Tomlin. So I think for the time being, the Eagles deal with this as it comes. And Nick Sirianni does a good job of leaning into what the team is good at, which I that team has a fantastic defense. That's what no one's talking about. But that defense is one of the best in the league right there with the Broncos and the Texans. And you ride it out and you see where you can go with this team and then you make a decision on A.J. brown after the year. I I'll be interested to see what his trade value would be too. But they were never going to trade him in season because they're chasing a championship in the off season. The dynamic changes because you have the wherewithal to replace him on your roster. You don't have that in season, so they manage it for now and then I think they revisit it after the year.
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Colin Cowherd
Albert Brer, Monday Morning quarterback Good stuff, good stuff. I love that. Lane Kiffin info. Good seeing you buddy. As always.
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Albert Breer
All right, thanks, Colin.
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Jason McIntyre
Be sure to catch live editions of the Herd weekdays at noon Eastern, 9am Pacific.
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Colin Cowherd
Hey, we're Covino and Rich, Fox Sports radio every day 5 to 7pm Eastern. But here's the thing. We never have enough time to get to everything we want to get to. And that's why we have a brand new podcast called Over Promised. You see, we're having so much fun in our two hour show. We never get to everything honestly because this guy is over promising things we never have time for.
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Jason McIntyre
Yeah, you blubber lips blaming me.
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Colin Cowherd
Well, you know what it's called? Over Promise. You should be good at it cause you've been over promising women for years. Well, it's a Covino and Rich after show and we want you to be a part of it. We're gonna be talking sports, of course, but we're also gonna talk life and relationships and and if Rich and I are arguing about something or we didn't have enough time, it will continue on our after show called Over Promised. Well, if you don't get enough Covino and Rich, make sure you check out Over Promise. And also uncensored by the way. So maybe we'll go at it even a little harder. It's going to be the best after show podcast of all time.
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Albert Breer
There you go.
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Colin Cowherd
Over Promising. And remember, you could see it on YouTube, but definitely. Join us Listen to Over Promised with Covino and rich on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. J. Mac with the news.
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Jason McIntyre
It's always a concern, like, are you eating well? He's actually an amazing cook.
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Albert Breer
There was this one time where we had neighbors and I saved their dog.
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Jason McIntyre
And I ended up inviting them over for food, and that was, like, one.
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Albert Breer
Of my proudest moments.
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Albert Breer
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Spencer Graves
I like the idea of, like, hey, put me on a big deer. You know, hey, there's a big deer out here. He's doing this. Be looking for this deer. But I also love doing it on my own. I love going out there and saying, running my cameras. I love patterning the deer. I like showing up at the right the right time, checking the wind, knowing what stand I need to be in. And then whenever it all comes together and it happens, that's the most satisfying thing ever. So when you do it on your own, it's like, I then can hang my hat. But if I had somebody say, hey, pull up on these dots and catch them right here and you're gonna win. And then when I go in, it's like, yeah, it's cool. I won the tournament. The ultimate goal is done. But it's like, dude, when you finally them and you make them bite, that's the problem.
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Colin Cowherd
I love it.
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Albert Breer
Listen to lines and Tines with Spencer Graves on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Jason McIntyre
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Eliot Khani
Turn on the news.
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Jason McIntyre
This is the herd line news. All right, well, Colin, quick thing. He said something interesting there about Jalen. Hurts like he's not loved in the.
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Colin Cowherd
Locker that's what I told you.
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Jason McIntyre
Hearing that?
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Colin Cowherd
No, that's what I was.
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Jason McIntyre
What I haven't heard is why.
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Colin Cowherd
Okay, I told you this last summer. I was told by somebody very close to the executive suite, Jalen is not hang out with the guys. Jalen can be a little, you know, a little robotic. You know, his. All his stuff. You know, his. His executive team, all women doing his own thing. Not about hanging out with the guys. He's very mature for his age. He can be. And by the way, this is exactly what I was told. It's not Russell Wilson, but he's got like his prepared lines and he's. I'm just telling you what I was told by an unimpeachable source. And now Albert's hearing it. Yeah, and now you're hearing it from Derek Gunn. So you're hearing it now. This is exactly what I heard. He's not the most well loved guy. Doesn't mean he's disliked. But he's not one of the guys.
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Jason McIntyre
It's just weird. Hey. Hey who?
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Colin Cowherd
Jalen.
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Jason McIntyre
Hey, we're going to this jiggle joint downtown. You want to come hang out? No, you know what? I got a life. I don't need that stuff. So what he doesn't hang out with, I just. I don't like this because Hertz seems like a great guy. All right, I'm rambling. Let's move on. All right, let's go to Ben Johnson and Caleb Williams. Colin, listen, I know you're kind of lukewarm on this drama, but now another source, this one to Diana Rossini of the Athletic, is saying there could be some friction between Caleb and Ben Johnson. Rossini says an NFL GM told her that he can't bring himself to fully buy in on Caleb, adding, she was told, I just don't think he's consistently playing on time within the scheme. I gotta wonder, what does Ben Johnson feel about that? He's got to be really patient for now. So this is now. Multiple reporters are saying the timing issue with Ben and Caleb is not working.
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Colin Cowherd
We've said from the very beginning it's not a perfect fit. It's winning, they're beating bad teams and average teams narrowly. It's not a perfect fit. I mean, if you're asking me what Ben Johnson would like, it's 67% completion percentage play within structure. But enough mobility. Drake may mobility to escape if needed. That's what he want. It's very Kyle Shanahan. Here's my play. Run it. And there's a lot of times with Caleb, he doesn't. If the first guy is not open, he's moving now. He's so exceptional at that. But this is not a perfect fit. It's never been a perfect fit.
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Jason McIntyre
So do you think. It sounds like you think this is maybe a process over results. Hey, we're winning. But Caleb, you're. You're not really doing everything. We want the right way. Otherwise maybe then we're blowing people out or. We can't keep winning this way. If you would do it my way, we would then make the real jump to light speed and be a serious contender.
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Colin Cowherd
You gotta remember Chicago's. They're so depraved offensively for 100 years that the fact that Caleb is exciting and winning, they haven't even had that. I mean, they had Jay Cutler, which was a pocket guy, but kind of surly. Rex Grossman, big arm, pocket guy. But, you know, nobody saw him as, like, iconic. You know, Caleb is winning. They're better than the packers, it looks like, or certainly in their class. They finally have a good offense. So Caleb is getting really popular really quickly in Chicago, but it's never been a perfect fit.
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Jason McIntyre
It's still early. It's been, what, 11 games? So the other thing is the tackles for the Bears have played well this season. This is a big timing game because, you know, Watt and Highsmith coming off the edge. You better have your timing down. Jalen Ramsey could be hunting stuff in the secondary. I like this game. I still am with you. I'm on the Bears here. Next up, Colin. Let's go to the New York Giants. They got some bummer news. Jackson Dart did not clear concussion protocol. He will be out this weekend. That'll mean Jameis Winston gets his second straight start. He was serviceable against the packers last week. I think he did some things that caught them off guard. I'm just curious. Brian Dabel. One of the big knocks on him was he was running Dart into the ground like he can't take these hits. Do you think there's an edict? Hey, Kafka, we like Dart. We don't want him injured. Let's not rush him back. You think that's a play here?
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah, I mean, it's a dicey situation. So Day ball needed to play him. That's why he's rushing to the blue tent, because he didn't want to get fired. And then he gets dinged up and Kafka wants to be. You know, a guy gets fired, the interim guy usually does the opposite of what the coach does. So he's going to protect Jackson. Darren Card, he's gonna hold Abdul Carter responsible. So generally the interim coach comes in and either lightens up the room or adds some intensity to the room. You kind of go the opposite.
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Jason McIntyre
Yes.
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Colin Cowherd
The pendulum swings to what wasn't winning. So my guess is Kafka with Joe Shane. You know, they're in unison. He's saying, listen, what Joe, what do you think? And Joe's probably like, protect Jackson dart. And Kafka buys into it.
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Jason McIntyre
So does Kafka. Is he able to save his job if he goes? I don't know. One in six?
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Albert Breer
No.
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Jason McIntyre
Well, that's the thing. So Kafka is going to be forced into playing dart. Sorry, you're not winning with Jamis Winston. Lions. By the way. You see a ten and a half on the screen. Since dart was ruled out, this has jumped to 12 and a half. I'm seeing some 13s. I'm with you. Lions smash spot against the G Men. Final story. Colin, man, we love to talk about quarterbacks. J.J. mcCarthy has been something of a pinata for you. Vikings, remember last year they were 14, three with Sammy D. JJ McCarthy. Yeah, not good. 52% of his completions, more picks than nine interceptions. Sorry, more interceptions than touchdowns. And he's had the ankle injury. But McCarthy, listen to the optimism dripping here ahead of a big divisional matchup.
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Colin Cowherd
I kind of make the analogy of.
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Spencer Graves
Just like, you know, a cork about.
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Albert Breer
To come off a bottle. Just understanding that it's, you know, one.
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Colin Cowherd
To three little things that I need.
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Spencer Graves
To change about my game that is.
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Colin Cowherd
Going to make a huge difference in the outcome of every single drive in the game.
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Albert Breer
So, yeah, I feel like it's really close, but it all comes down to the consistency of the fundamentals and the little details.
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Jason McIntyre
Well said. You gotta admit, Josh Allen was like 50 something percent completions as, as a young fella with the Buffalo Bills. Remember that? He turned it around. I'm not selling my McCarthy stock, but it's down bad. Kind of like my crypto portfolio right now, you know, right now. I mean, you posted the stats earlier on McCarthy. He's dead last. And there they are. Boy, look at this staff. I mean, that's pretty bad, Colin. And here's the big knock. You remember Chris Carter, obviously the great Vikings wide receiver back in the day? He went online and kind of was like, did you watch the first 59 minutes of McCarthy against the Bears? He was terrible. McCarthy's quarterback coach went after Chris Carter, calling him some choice words, shall we say? And then had to rescind them because it's like, oh well, I didn't know. If it's Chris Carter, who's a Vikings legend, things are just not going great for JJ.
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Colin Cowherd
But once GMs and coaches get defensive, somebody's gotten a little too close to the truth.
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Jason McIntyre
Yes, indeed, my friend.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah. J. Maclean News well, that's the news, and thanks for stopping by the Herd line news off of five zero Heater JMAX picks next.
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I like the idea of, like, hey, put me on a big deer. You know, hey, there's a big deer out here. He's doing this. Be looking for this deer. But I also love doing it on my own. I love going out there and saying, running my cameras. I love patterning the deer. I like showing up at the right time, checking the wind, knowing what stand I need to be in. And then whenever it all comes together and it happens, that's the most saddest fine thing ever. So when you do it on your own, it's like, I then can hang my hat. But if I had somebody say, hey, pull up on these dots and catch them right here and you're gonna win. And then when I go in, it's like, yeah, it's cool, I won the tournament. The ultimate goal is done. But it's like, dude, when you find them and you make them bite, that's the puzzle. I love it.
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Colin Cowherd
Well, it's that time of the week when JMAC sees if he can keep up with our picks this year that are at a 62% clip. Last week we went 50 jmac up for the challenge. So tomorrow's headlines today, giants and at the Lions. No Jackson Dart. What say you?
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Jason McIntyre
Yeah, this line's been moving up after the dart news. This is a layup, Colin. The headline for Lions Giants will be golf the top rope Lions claw their way back. Love the little wrestling theme. Obviously Scatter Boo and company showing up this week. Listen folks, I don't see how you can actually back Jameis Winston in this spot at all. Jared Goff and Dan Campbell off a loss. 13 straight wins, 13 straight covers. Now I know the bad news today is Sam Laporta is out likely for the season. Colin, that is a huge hit to their offense. He is like an elite tight end, probably top three tight end in the league. That being said, the Giants defense is a joke. The secondary is pathetic. I think Amon Ra, Jamison Williams have big games. The Giants ranked dead last in run defense. Colin, this is a alliance team that should get an easy dub here. The only question though and you brought this up is the look ahead spot Thanksgiving against the Packers. I don't know, I, I, I can't imagine Dan Campbell who's a big motivator. I can't imagine him just letting his guys think about Thanksgiving and not focused on the task at hand.
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Colin Cowherd
Good call. Tomorrow's headlines today, Seahawks at the Titans. That one feels ugly.
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Jason McIntyre
These are too ugly game. This one's ghastly. That being said, Seattle's fun to watch. The headline for Seahawks Titans from Nashville will be Jabigsaw puzzle Seahawks attack corners to solve game. Oh my gosh. JSN should have a field day against Tennessee. Colin, if you're we look at the bottom of the NBA and there's a lot of teams that are already quitting. The Tennessee Titans have to lead the charge in the NFL. They're bad across the board. They have no weapons. Offensively, the defense is terrible. And last week they suffered a brutal loss to, you know, the immortal David Davis Mills. I think there's a great bounce back for Sam Darnold and company. How about this? McDonald and Darnold on the road this year. Five and oh, against the spread. They're the best against the spread team in the league overall. I do wonder if maybe there's a slow start, a little hangover from the Rams loss because they did fight hard to come back. But ultimately, like if you want to dabble in Tennessee first quarter plus three, go for it. But Seattle will win this game. I don't think they're going to run away the way, you know, they, they beat Arizona by a million at home. And the Saints, they smothered them. I don't see that happening here. But this feels like a 30 to 9 kind of route. Seahawks take care of business. This is, this is a legit super bowl team if Sam Darnold can avoid mistakes.
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Colin Cowherd
Tomorrow's headlines Today, New England Patriots at Cincinnati. Joe Burrow hung around practice this week.
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Jason McIntyre
Well, it's more than hung around. He's listed as questionable. They don't know if he's going to play or not. Zach Taylor's making us play the waiting game. The headline for Patriots Bengals will be drink it till you make it. From small startup to big digs rupture. Yeah, baby. Listen, I'm a Patriots hater growing up a Jets fan and I had Tom Brady just put it on us for decades. That being said, there's a lot to love about this team. Colin Drake may, by the way, the best deep ball thrower in the league right now. He is having an amazing MVP caliber season. You want to guess who's the worst secondary in the league? Cincinnati Bengals. There's some analytics that say they're one of the worst defenses all time. Colin, Trey Hendrickson not playing. Sounds like he's probably going on the shelf. I don't even think he's going to go. And if you look at Cincinnati like anytime they play a good team, it's just a beat down. I mean, they struggle to play with the jets and Bears. This is a bad team. No Jamar Chase. So if it's Joe Flacco and T. Higgins, give me Christian Gonzalez locking things up. I like Patriots to cover a big number here.
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Colin Cowherd
Tomorrow's headlines today, this will win no beauty contests. Falcons. You love betting Falcons games at the Saints.
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Jason McIntyre
I was betting on the Falcons one of my big misses was that this team thinking they were going to be good garbage. The headline for Saints Falcons will will be Dunkirk Saints go to war on Falcons. Yes, New Orleans is favored here. Colin. Yeah, this is, this is easy. Okay. The last time we saw Kirk Cousins play without Drake London. Both Penix and London are out this week. They got destroyed by the Miami Dolphins at home. Well guess what, both those guys are out again. People are not falling for it again. By the way, Kirk Cousins last six starts. Oh, and six against a spread. Just one and five straight up. This is not difficult. Saints load the box. Stop Bijan Robinson dare Kirk Cousins to throw down the field. He can't. I don't see how the Saints don't win this possibly with margin. By the way, Tyler Shook, remember went to Carolina and had a pretty good game outplayed Bryce Young. He now has a bye week so I would expect Kellen, Kellen Moore and Shook to cook up some stuff. I like the Saints here. I'm on an island. They're not very good but Atlantis by the way played two back to back games. One of them was in Berlin that went overtime.
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Colin Cowherd
They're in trouble finally. This is an interesting one. I considered, I considered taking the bucks after the Rams came off a big divisional shootout. Tomorrow's headlines today Tampa Bay beat up at the Rams. They gave Buffalo troubles but now they go back cross country.
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Jason McIntyre
A lot of travel for a fatigue team. Fourth road game in their last five plus a bye week and you know they were traveling on that one. The headline for Tampa Rams from SoFi will be the Stafford ability crisis. Rams inflated by quarterback value. I love Stafford here against Todd Bowles now we talked earlier this week. Todd Bowles loves to blitz. That's in his DNA. They blitz at the third highest rate in the league. Matt Stafford destroys the blitz. Two games against the Bulls blitzing defense with McVay seven touchdowns, zero interceptions. Listen, Stafford is going to eat these guys up. He's got the healthy wide receivers. I am concerned. Two tight ends for the Rams. Colin went on IR this week so they won't be able to go to the three tight end sets that they've been using. But Tampa's just Bowles is up against it when they have stepped up in class the last few weeks against good teams. Detroit, Buffalo, they're losing and not covering the spread. Bucky Irving just ruled out today. Not great for the run game although Tucker showed well last week. Everything on on my paper here says Rams continuing to look like one of the Best teams in the league and a legit super bowl contender.
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Colin Cowherd
Well, you and I both and this is. You did this more than me. But I've never been a fan of taking favorites and last year I. I had a very average year because I've always been take at least a B level quarterback in points. This year I take an over three favorites and one dog. It's really changed the NFL is whether it's. The kickoffs have enhanced field position. I think it's part of it where you only need a couple field. First of all, you only need a couple first downs to get into field goal range because everybody now can kick a 53 yard field goal. So the kickers, there's just more points being scored now a lot of that's baked in but it does feel like to me even backup quarterback plays better. I mean Davis Mills last night. Mac Jones is a backup. Not. Not only the Davis Mills play well played exceptional. Mac Jones was exceptional. So it used to be your backup was kind of like Tyrod Taylor. There was limitations. You could win a game, but you weren't going to win a shootout. Well, Matt can win a shootout. Last night, first half Houston in a shootout. The quality of even backup play is better. The rules all tilt offense, the kickoffs. Now we have four kickoffs this year. Return for touchdown. So better field position and that field goal kickers have better legs. Something happened about three years ago and it wasn't Cheerios. Everybody can kick a 58 yarder now. So I just find myself. Even in games in which you think you're on the wrong side, it'll go over late because somebody boots a 57 yard field goal.
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Jason McIntyre
And you love to go against bad quarterbacks. These are the quarterbacks I just went against. Jameis Winston, Cam Ward, the rookie. Joe Flacco, the backup, assuming he starts Kirk Cousins and then you know, Baker Mayfield's kind of good fade. The bad quarterbacks. That strategy has worked for you.
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Colin Cowherd
Well, there is a. I looked, I think it was Monday or Tuesday. I went home and I just. I wrote. I looked at the draft and I. There are 10 teams. It used to be much smaller where you'd have three to four maybe unwatchable teams. It's 10 now. I didn't count. I did not count Miami. I think they're watchable and they can, you know, I mean there is. I still think their schemes are excellent. I still think they can move the ball. Just don't put them in cold weather. But there's a. There. It's like the NBA and I said this two years ago when the quarterback became that important. If you don't have one, you can't compete. And I'm we're we're not even to Thanksgiving yet and there are Lions will win by blowout. Seahawks should win comfortably.
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Jason McIntyre
Ravens are going to smash.
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Colin Cowherd
Look at the spreads in the NFL. They look like college spreads. And that's because the league is now so quarterback reliant for success 100%. All right, good stuff. Want to thank Albert Breer for stopping by. Julian Edelman Taking time for the herd on a Friday. First things first, around the corner.
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Eliot Khani
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Jenna World Jenna Jameson Vivid Video and the Valley is a new podcast about the history of the adult film industry. Industry. I'm Molly Lambert, and I'll be your tour guide on a wild trip through adult films. We get paid more than the men. We call the shots. In what way is that degrading? That's us taking hold of our life. Listen to Gentle world on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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