THE HERD - Hour 3 - Andy Staples Gives Details on Michigan's Punishment

Summary

Below is a detailed summary of “THE HERD - Hour 3 - Andy Staples Gives Details on Michigan's Punishment” (released August 15, 2025) from The Herd with Colin Cowherd. The episode is a fast‐paced, wide-ranging sports show that weaves in in‐depth analysis of NCAA penalties, college football roster dynamics, and other sports news, all peppered with energetic banter and cross-promotional segments for other iHeart podcasts.

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1. Episode Overview
   ────────────────────────────── • The primary focus of this episode is a deep dive into Michigan’s recent NCAA punishment—which includes a projected $30 million fine and game suspensions—and its potential impact on the football program and broader athletic department.
   • Alongside this discussion, the show touches on challenges in college football roster management amid the transfer portal era, changes in recruiting dynamics, and comparisons of scheduling challenges across conferences.
   • Throughout the broadcast, the host (Doug Gottlieb filling in for Colin) and guests like Andy Staples share sharp insights and humorous commentary, while numerous segments from sister iHeart podcasts are interwoven with lighthearted promos and advertisements.

────────────────────────────── 2. Sponsored Segments & Cross-Promotions (timestamps: 00:00–02:30; 14:39–17:00; 46:00–47:47; 54:00–55:33)
────────────────────────────── • The show opens with a series of promos for various iHeart podcasts.
– At [00:05], Dana Schwartz and Lizzie Logan introduce “Hoax,” a podcast outlining historical deceptions such as WWII Australian soldiers’ bad poetry hoax.
– Shortly thereafter, segments for “no Such Thing” (a show on deciphering everyday oddities like confusing TSA rules) and “Native Land Pod” are featured.
• Additional promos include “America's Crime Lab” and “Fud Around and Find Out,” offering listeners a diverse palette of true crime, sports, and pop culture content on iHeart platforms.
• These segments set a playful, eclectic tone that frames the main sports discussions later in the episode.

────────────────────────────── 3. In-Depth Analysis: Michigan’s NCAA Punishment (timestamps: 02:32–14:36; 19:48–25:07; 29:46–32:00)
────────────────────────────── • Doug Gottlieb introduces the hot topic: Michigan’s hefty fine and its broader implications on college football economics.
• Key discussion points include:

• The NCAA has levied a fine of approximately $30 million on Michigan, a significant portion of which is tied to anticipated postseason revenue sharing and budget allocations ([~02:32–03:00]).
• Instead of using traditional punishments like scholarship reductions, banners being taken down, or postseason bans, the NCAA’s innovative approach limits fines and suspensions in an effort not to unduly punish current players.
• Andy Staples explains that the NCAA’s committee on infractions seems to have deliberately avoided measures that would drag Michigan into lengthy legal battles:
  • At [20:21], Staples notes, “They looked at every potential penalty and said, ‘Is this going to get the NCAA sued by Michigan?’ and ruled out punishments that might provoke a quick counterattack.”
  • The impact on the current season is assessed as minimal for the football team itself—Michigan is wealthy enough to absorb the fine and work around the immediate game-day restrictions.
• However, there’s concern that the funds will have to be reallocated, potentially affecting ancillary sports that are traditionally subsidized by the football program ([23:04–23:25]).
• A notable moment comes when Doug remarks, “If you don’t have the money, you can’t compete,” underscoring the pivotal role of financial resources in the modern college sports landscape ([23:04]).

────────────────────────────── 4. College Football Roster Dynamics & Transfer Portal Trends (timestamps: 25:07–33:00)
────────────────────────────── • The conversation shifts to the uncertainty and unpredictability in college football due to massive roster turnovers and the transfer portal. Key insights include:

• Multiple programs—the likes of North Carolina, Oklahoma State, and LSU—are experiencing extreme roster volatility with many players yet to practice together. As Doug points out near [25:27], “There’s probably 75% of the two-deep that hadn’t even practiced with Oklahoma State yet.”
• The discussion also touches on emerging trends where highly recruited players and transfers are shaking up traditional power dynamics. For instance, Oklahoma’s situation is highlighted:
  • Doug explains that with a new transfer quarterback (John Mattier) coming in, Oklahoma’s offense has the potential for a transformation, even though they face one of the toughest stretches in their schedule ([28:00–28:44]).
  • The panel debates the long-term effects of increased athlete mobility and how this may eventually force schools to rethink financial deals and even consider collective bargaining frameworks reminiscent of the Screen Actors Guild or Writers Guild models.

────────────────────────────── 5. Broader Sports News & Light Banter (timestamps: 40:04–44:43; 50:05–53:28)
────────────────────────────── • Later in the hour, the show covers additional sports stories and humorous asides, such as:

• A segment on Major League Baseball where the discussion turns to the Milwaukee Brewers and a quirky promotion involving a free burger if the team wins 12 consecutive games ([50:05–51:35]).
• Doug indulges in humorous personal commentary about how far he’d go for a free burger and reminisces about his youth when group deals at local restaurants were a big deal.
  • The episode wraps up with a mix of latest news and banter:
• Headlines from “The Herdline News” include updates on the Dodgers, NL West race, and remarks on NFL coaches discussing readiness for season starters ([40:10–44:43]).
• A lighthearted nod is given to a 911 call received over a burger promotion, capturing the quirky nature of sports fandom and regional pride.

────────────────────────────── 6. Memorable Quotes & Listener Takeaways
────────────────────────────── • “If you don’t have the money, you can’t compete.” ([23:04])
– This remark synthesizes the current debate over financial penalties and athletic competitiveness in the NCAA.
• Andy Staples’s observation at [20:41]: “You really can’t take away scholarships now because those are roster spots governed by the House versus the NCAA settlement.”
– This quote highlights how changes in regulations have shifted the landscape of collegiate athletics punishment and recruitment. • Doug’s commentary on schedule difficulty near [28:44] and [29:46] sparks a broader discussion on conference competitiveness and the evolving identity of traditional powerhouse programs.

────────────────────────────── 7. Conclusion
────────────────────────────── • The episode is a rich blend of deep-cut college sports analysis, humorous interludes, and commentary on the shifting financial and competitive paradigms in college athletics.
• While Michigan’s fine prompts discussion about the evolving NCAA enforcement strategies, the broader conversation also examines transfer trends, roster challenges, and the impact on less-funded sports programs.
• The multifaceted conversation, underscored by lively banter and notable guest insights, leaves listeners with plenty to digest as they consider how financial resources, regulatory frameworks, and the modern transfer portal are redefining collegiate sports.

This comprehensive summary outlines the key themes, discussion points (with timestamps and memorable quotes), and the multifarious nature of the broadcast—providing a clear snapshot for anyone who has not yet tuned in.

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You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. What up? Welcome in. This is the Hurt FOX Sports Radio iHeartradio app. Welcome in. For the next hour, you got Doug Gottlieb sitting in for Colin and the big news of the day, big story of the day, wherever you're listening to us on the show. And by the way, of course you can always download the podcast that the show is done or you can listen to the Doug Gottlieb show, which follows the show on most FOX Sports Radio stations. Yeah. So Michigan gets punished. And here, here's what you're going to read. Okay. Here's what you're going to read. You're going to read that there's a $50,000 fine, right. And that it's also 10% of the football budget, a fine equivalent to the anticipated postseason competition revenue sharing associated with this and next year's college football seasons. That's big numbers right there. Big numbers. Okay. A 25% reduction in football official visits during the 25, 26 season. That doesn't really make that big a dent. Okay. And Connor Stallions, Jim Harbaugh, Denard Robinson, even Sharon Moore is going to be suspended one additional game. He was suspended two games this year. There's going to be a third one. But the big thing is that the projection is a $30 million fine to Michigan. $30 million fine, that's a lot of money. Now, can you make it up? Of course you have 100,000 seat stadium. It's going to be full. You can charge up ticket prices, you can raise some more money, but that's $30 million that you planned on budgeting, having that you won't have. And you're going to lose the College Football playoff revenue you are going to get as well. And I'm going to commend the NCAA again. I don't, I don't think the violations were that big of a deal. I don't. But what they've done is they found a way to punish the school without truly punishing the players at the school. Right. Like none of these. They're not losing a game. They're not losing a chance to play for a championship. We're not taking down a banner. But what we're doing is we're crippling your chance to compete and go out and spend a bunch of money. Reality is, I don't know how much it affects football as much as the other sports, the non revenue generating sports. And I'm guessing at, at Michigan, that's everything outside of basketball and football, men's basketball and football, but yeah, I, I think that what, what is at stake here. Hey, what's at stake here is the NCAA trying to find a way to find the perfect punishment going forward. This is a, this is a, a sea change in NCAA history because in any other punishment in the past, what would have happened? Scholarship reductions, postseason ban and take down a banner. Right? That's like their thing. Scholarship reductions, postseason ban, take down a banner. Well, here's the problem. Scholarship reductions don't. They do work. They cripple you going forward in the future. But now when you have a set number, I think it's 105 college football players, it's called a roster cap. So if you had. Not if you just, if you took away scholarships, they can have their collective pay for the scholarship or pay for the. All the fees. Understand, make sense. It's like you can do this when you, if you want to buy a kid a car, you can't give him a car. You can't buy the car and let him use it, but you can pay him the money that he then pays for the car. Making sense? Okay. So for this, if you take away scholarships, all you're doing is they got, they can be creative and find a way to cover the cost of those scholarships with their collective, which can be done the postseason band. Well, very few of the parties that were part of this issue at Michigan a couple years ago are still on campus. So what does that really do? And taking down a banner we've seen in the past, that doesn't matter. That doesn't make sense. None of it. So I'm just going to tell you, I, I think this is. If it stands up in court, this is the future of NCAA punishments. And I actually think it's pretty smart. Does it cripple Michigan football? It hurts them. Definitely hurts them in perception more with fans and with alums than it does with players like guys, don't they. They don't care. Can I still play for championships? I still play for Michigan. And some. A Michigan degree is still important. My guess is here's what happens. This is just a guess. Next year becomes the year where all of this affects the football program. And I'm guessing that Sharon Moore ends up becoming the fall guy for it. Most coaches who deal with NCAA infractions don't survive to the next contract. It's just too hard. And in this case, if you don't have the money, you can't compete. It's really that simple. If you don't have the money, you can't compete. Do I think they can move some money over from other sports. Yeah, they can find ways to be creative that if we pay this fine out of our football budget, we'll just find ways to get, you know, out of budget things and we'll make it work. But I don't know how many people know this did two or three years ago coming out of COVID when the Big 12 added schools, because they added schools but the new TV deal hadn't taken place, there was like a five to six million dollars shortfall. You guys know that. And schools had to decide whether or not they would just pay the five or six million dollars upfront or they pay it over a two year period. And I know of one school that in the summer they decided, hey, we don't need air conditioning and in the winter we don't need heat in our buildings. It'll save us a million dollars. It's a real thing, right. In the summer, nobody's around. If you're going to have workouts, you have in the morning, you have in the practice facility, but in the arenas which are really expensive to heat and to cool and you just cut that off for a year. And some calculations, you save $1 million. So yeah, you got to pay $6 million out of the, yet $6 million less coming in, but you're spending $1 million less over a two year period. Not turn on the heat. Touching on the air. It really is that slim of margins in high major universities. So what do I think happens? Yeah, what I, what I think happens, quite honestly is is that Michigan football next year takes a real hit. But Michigan's other, other programs in the athletic department are going to take the most severe hit because if you move $500,000 off of softball to cover the loss of like all of this stuff matters. It's all connected. And as it stands, even with the most financially successful and rich universities, they're all working on tight margins now because you hadn't been able to plan for paying kids, you know, a salary cap of 20, $25 million. And what happens, and just so people understand the, the ruling where schools get, I think it's 22 million a year to spend on revenue share. The biggest chunk of that like 13 million is proposed to be, you can use for football. That's only a portion of it. The rest at the high, high highest level they get, we call it sweeteners. Right where Texas, Oklahoma, Alabama, Nebraska. In order to be, order to be successful, you can't build a team on $13 million. You need like $25 million. So the $12 million is in donations to an nil collective, which is on top of what they're getting from the universities with Rev Share. But all that money off of Rev Share, the money that they're making from the Big Ten network, from where all the Big Ten games being on TV on big noon kickoff, whatever that money was, there was a plan for it. And now they have to spend, you know, 22 million of it on players in mostly in football and basketball and occasionally in an additional sport. So you're already on a tight budget. You cut out 10%, $30 million, fine. And now money's got to come from somewhere. Well, you're still going to invest in the programs that make you money, right? So there was already the talk, and this is mostly non power four of, hey, a lot of these ancillary sports are not going to survive. They're just not, you know, lacrosse, track and field, these tennis. These sports are expensive. And they remember, it's not just you have to have the players there. Sometimes you have to pay those players to compete if you want to get the good ones, right? And then, oh, yeah, by the way, you have the facilities, the coaches, the facility upkeep as well. All that's expensive. If you cut off the sport, you're saving a couple million dollars. You just do a club sport. I think that may trigger not a canceling of sports at Michigan, but it's definitely going to affect their entire athletic department, the whole thing. And I'm only commending the ncaa. I'm only doing it, okay? Only doing it because this is where it hurts, right? This is where it hurts. There's no tongue lashing or taking down banners or taking away scholarships or doing anything fake. College football, college basketball, your chance to be successful. It's all about your financial resources, right? And they just cut out, they cut the toes off of Michigan. They didn't cut the legs off. They'll still be able to compete. You still got a lot of money. You can still make some of it back. But 30 million is 30 million, man. 30 million is 30 million. Here's what we're going to do. We're going to check in with Andy Staples coming up next in the Herd, will Michigan's punishment have an impact on the Big Ten this season? Plus, we'll dive more into the details around the NCAA's ruling with Andy Staples. That's next. I'm Doug Gottlieb. This is the Herd. Be sure to catch live editions of the Herd, weekdays at noon Eastern, 9am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio FS1 and the iHeartRadio app. Hi, this is Jay. I'm the producer of the Paulie and Tony Fusco Show. Usually in these promos, they ask you to listen to the show. I'm here to ask you, please don't listen to the show. The hosts are two absolute morons who have the dumbest takes on sports imaginable. Don't listen to this show so it can get cancelled.

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Doug, Alec for Colin. This is the herd, Fox sports radio and iHeartradio app. Welcome, welcome, welcome. In. We'll get to Greg Tuohy with the news upcoming. But the big news of the day, that's the was it nod, right? News Nod. If you. If you work in sports, in businesses, right, You. You know that they'll. They'll put the nod. Andy Staples, who works for On3 has the nod. Casey's covered college sports for years. He's kind enough to spend some time with us here in the herd on Fox Sports Radio. I'm Doug Gottlieb filling in for Colin Cowherd. Andy, what's, what's your reaction to the punishment handed down to Michigan?

[D]

I think the committee on infractions looked at every potential penalty might levy and said is this going to get the NCAA sued by Michigan? And as soon as they get the answer to no, they said that's the penalty. And so they didn't do anything that was going to make this drag out any longer because the postseason ban would have done that. Michigan would have fired back very quickly. More suspension of Sharon more than they gave him would have caused Michigan to fire back. Vacating wins or stripping titles would have caused Michigan to fire back and they did not want that smoke.

[A]

Yeah, I would agree. Okay, so I think though that this is the wave of penalties in the future. Right? We've been doing this for a long time. Usually they do post season ban, take down banners, take away scholarships. You can't take away scholarships now because the collective will just pay for it. Right?

[D]

It's not even that, Doug. You really can't take away scholarships now because those are roster spots that are governed by the House versus the NCAA settlement. So if you took away scholarships or roster spots or however you want to describe it, you're going to get your ass dragged into federal court.

[A]

Yeah, that's crazy. That's crazy. Okay, so let's, let's get to, let's get to how it affects Michigan in the short term. What does it do for their season this year?

[D]

Nothing. They already knew that she run more is going to be suspended for the Central Michigan game, which by the way the funniest possible game they could suspend him for because that was the one. The place where Connor Stallion showed up on the sideline. Also the Nebraska game. The reason they did this this way, Doug, is Throne Moore is an Oklahoma grad. They play Oklahoma in Game 2. So instead of just saying he's going to miss the first two games of the season, when Michigan was trying to negotiate a resolution for Sharon Moore, they offered up these two particular games so that he'd be able to coach against Oklahoma. The committee just said we accept that, but you also got to miss the first game next season.

[A]

Okay, so how does this affect Michigan moving forward?

[D]

Doesn't because Michigan's rich. Now. This is, this is one of the things like where you're coaching if you get Hit with a penalty like that, then it's, it's significant, it hurts. But when you are in Michigan and you have that level of donor and you can just round up the donors and say, hey guys, we would need an additional $35 million to cover the shortfall based on our fines of the next few years, but it will allow us to continue throwing double middle fingers at the ncaa. The donors are probably just going to say, hey, cash check, Venmo wire transfer. What do you need? We're going to get you that money. This would be much more painful at a mid major at a Sunbelt School, Conference USA school.

[A]

I think it affects the other sports at Michigan. Right, because yes, they're rich. Yes, they're rich, but you weren't planning on paying players. Now you're paying players and you're paying them more than you ever thought you were going to pay them. And the money's got to come from somewhere. And while they can eventually make it up, the only way to make it up in the short term is to make some cuts.

[D]

And my guess is the other sports, the other sportsman subsidized by football the entire time, it's a little bit of, okay, so maybe we get a little bit less, but thanks for keeping us afloat for all these years.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, that's fair. It's. I guess. But I mean, you, you run the risk of losing those sports.

[D]

Maybe not at Michigan, not at Michigan. This, like I said, at another school, a non, you know, blue blood, non loaded school. This hurts a lot more that the old Jerry Tarkanian line that the NC got so mad at Western Kentucky or so mad at Kentucky, they killed Cleveland State. Like, if this happens to Cleveland State, it's horrible. But if this happens to Michigan or to Alabama or to Georgia, it's really no big deal. Yeah.

[A]

I think the big question is, does that $30 million get redistributed, especially to the schools like ours? We'll take it. Hey, we'll take our little cut.

[D]

I was thinking about that, Doug. Somebody asked me that, like, the bulk of this money is money that would come from the Big Ten. That's a cut of the College Football playoff money. So does it go to the other 18 Big Ten schools or the other 17 Big Ten schools that because. Or does the conference just pocket it? I don't really know how that works.

[A]

Well, it's a fine, so they have to send it to the ncaa. So then what does the NCAA do to redistribute it?

[D]

Well, no, no, no. It just means they can't take the way.

[A]

They can't take their cut.

[D]

They can't get. Yeah, they can't take their cut. So. So the Big Ten, I guess, gets to decide what to do with it.

[A]

I am going to disagree with you. From this standpoint, I don't think there's no effect because they're rich. I do think that while it doesn't feel like budgets are tight, they are tighter than you think. And I do think that this, this hurts him.

[D]

But again, I don't place where if you need a quarterback, they just. Larry Ellison's wife's like, hey, Larry, can you throw in $10 million to get Bryce Underwood? Sure, no problem. But if it was any place else, I'd probably agree with you.

[A]

Okay, Andy Staples joining us here. I'm Doug Galley. Feeling for Colin, this is the Herd. All right, what about college football? Like, how do we have any true idea? And I ask you that because North Carolina's got 70 new guys. Mild, moderate. Oklahoma State's got 65 new guys and you're talking about 15 padded practices before they start playing. How do we know if anybody's any good?

[D]

We don't. We don't. So we talked to Mike Gundy, Oklahoma State's coach, Big 12 media days, and he told us, Guys, there's probably 75% of the two deep that at that point had not even practiced with Oklahoma State yet. That's an extreme situation because most schools, at least you get most of your roster coming in after the winter portal and they go through spring practice. But Oklahoma State was a. Was a very extreme situation this year. But you're right, we don't know. And even at schools where, like I'll give you an example, lsu, you know, lsu, we think is going to be a really good team. They bring back Garrett Nussmeier as one of the best quarterbacks in the country. But they made such moves in the transfer portal. About half their defense is transfer players that they brought in. We think that's going to make them significantly better on defense. We have no idea. We will not know until we see them play at Clemson week one.

[A]

No idea. I mean, heck, you got Ohio State, Texas, week one of the season. I mean, that's a national championship caliber game. And I mean, this is. This is taking a pie out of the oven that is not fully cooked.

[D]

Yeah. Now at least with those two, those rosters are not so transfer heavy. You know, they didn't. They don't really have to because they do tend to recruit so well at high school. But you know, the further down you go and especially at places where they just change coaches, it's wild. I'll give you the wildest example of this. So last year Marshall wins the Sunbelt and Marshall and Charlotte Hoff, the coach had kind of gotten sideways and it was clear Charles Huff was not going to get extended. He was going to go somewhere else. So he goes to Southern Miss, which is also in the Sunbelt, but was the last place team in the Sunbelt and he essentially brings like a third of Marshall starting lineup to Southern Miss. So what would have been the returning Sunbelt champion team is now playing for the last place team and who knows what that does to how good they are.

[A]

It's crazy. I mean it's just, it's crazy. I've always thought that the transferring to arrival or in conference is. I've never agreed with it. I think most people are that way. There's so many other schools you can go to, but now it's a complete freedom of movement. Who's the most interesting program? I have one in mind. But who's your most interesting program this year?

[D]

Well, you're an Oklahoma State guy. I'll go with your bedlam rivals, Oklahoma. I think they're really interesting this year because one of the hardest schedules you've ever seen in your life, Brett Venables is under extreme pressure to win. But they bring in John Mattier. He is the very wide open Venmo account who I think is going to be one of the better transfer quarterbacks in the country this year. He was the most sought after transfer in the portal this year. So I'm excited to see what he does because their offense was essentially non functional last year for a variety of reasons. But if their offense is significantly better, their defense is good. So you're talking about a team that should be able to compete at the highest level. But their last seven games is the hardest seven game stretch I think I've ever seen in my life.

[A]

For people who are unaware of Oklahoma's schedule, let me read you those last seven games. So you know, and that's not counting Michigan at home. That's not counting Auburn, who Auburn at home. Last seven games are Texas in Dallas at South Carolina, who's very good. Ole Miss at home, at Tennessee, who smacked him last year in Norman, at Alabama they go. They have Missouri at home and they go to. They got LSU at home last game of the year. I think the big thing, you know, having lived there, worked there, followed there, covered it is like what signifies a Good year has to change, especially for Oklahoma, because they're so used to if we don't win double digits. And before, if you weren't in the Big 12 championship game, it was a bad year, it was a disappointing year. And you look at that schedule and like, if you win eight games, it's a hell of a year. And for people who have been following it for 100 years, to hear that is really, really awkward for them.

[D]

It's incredibly frustrating. And it's something that with a 16 team SEC and an 18 team Big Ten, you have to get used to. Everybody's got to adjust their expectations here, but Oklahoma is the hardest because, you know, outside of Ohio State, Oklahoma has been the most consistent program in the country. Like Ohio State never had a down period. Oklahoma basically had the one in the mid to late 90s before Bob Stoops got there. That's it. Other than that, they have dominated whether the big eight, the big 12. And so this is, this is a really new world and a really tough adjustment for them.

[A]

It's the Herd. Here on Fox Sports Radio, I'm Doug Gottlieb filling in for Collins. Funny, that was actually the team that I thought too. We were, we were, yes, that, that was. I, look, I thought, I thought going to the SEC was a mistake. I understand that the money is the money and they want to compete with all, all programs, but I just, I just think they're another SEC school where they were the school in the Big 12. And I, you know, I, I think that got diminished. I thought they should have used that power and tried to be the Texas of the new Big 12. Speaking of the new Big 12 wasn't great last year. Like, let's just kind of be honest, right? Felt like a Arizona State kind of came from nowhere to be competitive this year. You got K State. Everybody thinks they got a shot. Where is the Big 12 football wise in this entire mix?

[D]

Fascinating. Because it's so evenly matched, you know, there's probably eight or nine teams you could really make a legitimate case for to win the conference title this year. And so it makes the week to week part of the Big 12 really fun to watch. It makes the viewing product excellent. But Brett Yourmark, their commissioner, talked about this a few weeks ago. They need a couple programs to emerge as national title contender type teams. You kind of have to have the big dogs at the top to be an effective conference. So, like as the viewer, I love that I don't know what's going to happen. And we joke on my show about, you know, we should essentially mint a special big 12 coin that just says plus three and a half and minus three and a half on it. And it's fun now, but for them to get where they want to go, they need somebody, whether that's Texas Tech or Baylor, tcu, Kansas State, somebody to emerge as a power.

[A]

Yeah, but I don't know if that's possible because like you said, they are all the same. That's honestly why Oklahoma should have stayed. They would have been a power. But why losing them now makes everybody. I mean, maybe Arizona State, they should, they got 100,000 students. They should have more money than God. They finally won. Like, if, if he can figure out how to, you know. But he's. I'll tell you one of the deals. He's still doesn't have an indoor facility and he wants that.

[D]

They got a bubble.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. My advice would be don't worry about an indoor facility. Stick with the bubble, spend that money on players, and eventually, you know, they'll, they'll build you a Taj Mahal if you'd like. That's, that's generally the, the college.

[D]

And they have a freaking stadium carving into a mountain. I mean, come on.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Who would, who wouldn't love that place?

[A]

Well, and did I mention a hundred thousand students and, and, and warmth and Tempe.

[D]

Everybody's really good looking there.

[A]

Yes.

[D]

So.

[A]

Yes, yes. Completely, completely agree. Last thing. Last thing. Andy, I'm sure you've heard Thomas Hammock's rant about the college experience. Right. And the value of the college experience and what we're not teaching players. Is there any way in which we slow down the train of all the transfers?

[D]

I think actually the school's paying will probably slow it down some because they'll be able to write the deals in a way that it's going to be a little more difficult to transfer or you're going to leave some money on the table to transfer. The real way to do it is some sort of collective bargaining with the athletes where you can have a CBA so they can't sue you, and you have real rules and real contracts, and that's the easiest way to do it. The schools just don't want to do it.

[A]

Yeah, well, I think they want to do it. You can't make them employees. There's too many other things.

[D]

But there are ways to not do that. I mean, you think about like the Screen Actors Guild, for example. Those aren't full time employees of studios or anything. Those are all contractors. But they Have a cba. The, the Writers Guild, they have a cba. So you can do it. It's just a little bit different.

[A]

No, it's. It's a. It's a lot different. If you had Alabama's fascinating this year, right. Like Kalyn DeBoer. It's year two. It's the job that nobody wants to take. Right. Be the guy who replaces Nick Saban. But you get a guy who's been in the system to be your starting quarterback.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

What does Kaylin DeBoer have to do, honestly, to stay employed?

[D]

He's got to make playoffs. They're not going to accept anything short of making the playoff. But they have one of the most talented rosters in the country. The roster that Saban left behind pretty much intact. They lost a couple, you know, like Caleb Downs went to Ohio State right after Saban resigned. But for the most part, they kept a lot of those guys. And then Debord's done a good job of adding onto it. He's recruited really well. And their high school recruiting seems to be tracking not exactly like Saban's was. But that's because this is a different era more than anything else. And Saban's would have looked like this, too. So they have all the pieces around Ty Simpson, who's the fourth year player who they named the starting quarterback this week. They have all the pieces around him to make this work. I think they are one of the most talented teams in the country, Doug. I think they're one of the three or four most talented teams in the country. So if Ty Simpson is good and I don't even. He doesn't have to be no I. World beater. He could be above average. And I think they're a playoff team.

[A]

You want to know the most interesting part? I'll give you something you can talk about in your show. And it's a real thing. And I'd love to know what Simpson makes. Right. Because he had to win the job. So he's probably not making a million dollars. You know, he's probably not. Now, maybe they have. Maybe they have a deal in your contract where you get bumped. You're the starting quarterback. You make seven figures. I don't know. But the likelihood is not. But it would be genius if you can find program guys to be your quarterback, because the quarterback's the most expensive thing you get. Right. So if you have a. If you have a quarterback, I mean, that's really what the downfall of USC that nobody talks about. They were paying Caleb Williams so much Money. They didn't have money for everybody else, so they tried to cut corners. Well, you can't cut corners there. If you have a quarterback that's not great. It's. It's a little bit like the Brock Purdy thing in with. With the Niners, where you save money at the quarterback, you spread out elsewhere. It allows the quarterback to just run the system, just get the ball to the players. That appears to be the plan at Alabama.

[D]

I like the Trent Williams and as Kaden Proctor comparison. Very nice. Yeah. Although I will say with usc, they think they've got a guy, the freshman Husson Longstreet. I don't think he's going to start right away. They don't want to throw him into the fire immediately, but it sounds like they feel very good about him going forward. So Lincoln Riley may have his next. Next gem of a qb, but it may take a little. Little time to bake.

[A]

Yeah, but I do think that would be. Everybody's just so, you know, like, as we all talk and we all try and figure out, like, hey, what's that guy doing? How can I do it? Do you. Do you just pay a couple guys and everybody else gets nothing? Do you tier it? Does every member make a little something and then you let them earn nil? Do you put bonuses in there? I just. It'd be fascinating to me if you look at the structure of what Alabama's doing. Again, I think the high school recruiting thing, you, You. You only do that if you feel like those kids, especially if, like, I know Oklahoma State's doing this, you feel like you take. We want. We think Wisconsin kids will want to stay. They want to stay. They want to play in Wisconsin. They only want to play for the University of Wisconsin, play for the Badgers or play for us, and that's it. And the ones who are recruiting aren't seen as good enough to play for the Badgers as of yet. And so we tell them, hey, look, man, you're probably not going to play year one, maybe not year two, but three, four, five, and you can play close to home. We can raise more money, we can put more people in the seats and we can keep more players. That's also what I think a lot of people are trying to do in the high school recruiting. But you have to take high school kids knowing you're only gonna be able. Like in football, you only be able to play one or two because the rest just.

[D]

And the thing is now you can't. You can't stack them the way that Saban would stack them and Urban Meyer would stack them at Ohio State. Your, you know, beneath your top eight guys, you're not going to be able to pay the next group enough because some other school like North Carolina just did this to Ohio State where they took an Ohio State commit who's from Ohio and like it used to be that nobody from Ohio would ever decommit from Ohio State. They would never. Like you don't lose Ohio kids if you're Ohio State. But in this case, he's probably the, you know, the 17th or 18th guy if you're talking about taking order the recruiting class at Ohio State. Well, if North Carolina comes in and offers him significantly more money and says you'll probably get to play pretty quickly and oh by the way, it's Bill Belichick who can presumably develop you for the NFL, then all of a sudden it's really hard for an Ohio State to keep that guy. And so that's where it'll be interesting because you see these guys kind of spreading out. But to your point about building through the draft versus building through free agency in the NFL, we've seen you can. It only works if you build through the draft. And I think you're still seeing the Georgia's and the Alabamas and the Ohio states of the world. That's what they really want to do. They don't want to go and have to plug, you know, they'll plug a couple holes but they don't really want to replace their team whole. And so like Billy Napier at Florida got killed for that the first three years. It may wind up saving him ultimately because he's got an old team. They didn't quit on him when things were bad last year. They got better and maybe they're good this year.

[A]

Yeah, any great stuff? Man, I'm ready for college football. I know you are as well. Thanks so much for joining us in the Herd.

[D]

Thanks, Doug.

[A]

All right, let's get to Greg Tuohy with the news. No, no, no, no.

[D]

Turn on the news.

[A]

This is the Herdline news. What's up, Doug? What's up there, Tuohy? Big series in LA this weekend. Dodgers Padres three game set at Chavez Ravine. But now, Doug, the Dodgers are looking up in the NL West. They trail the Padres by a game. Starting to get a little dicey here in the NL West. Here was former All Star Matt Holiday. Last hour on the Dodgers as we hit the home stretch.

[D]

I think they're just as big a threat to win the World Series as they were at the Beginning of the season now, they're not going to win 120 games, like maybe we thought with the roster they constructed. But it's very difficult over 162 game season for everything to go as planned. And sort of the formula that you put on paper is going to work out. It's just such a long season, and there's so many factors that play into that, but when it comes down to a playoff month, I think they're just as good a position as they were ever.

[A]

He makes a lot of good points, and it's kind of how you feel. You're not really worried about the Dodgers at this point? No. Yeah. They've had a lot of injuries, and that's a lot of injury. If they get healthy, if they get right. And the fact is, like, here's what I am. I want to see what they do against the Padres in this stretch. Yeah. Because the Padres, this is, man, they, they like to talk some ish. They're a little nastier than other teams. And I know you're thinking like baseball. Like, it's baseball. Like, no, Remember, they had the Dave Roberts was the ball thrown at him thing. Right. The nontroversy sort of deal. Machado. Yeah. I want to see what that feels like. And as much I want to see at the Ravine, I want to see it Petco. That's going to be wild. That's going to be wild. We'll wrap it up with this. So Mike Vrabel continues to get right in the middle of things in New England. This week, he was asked by longtime Pats reporter Phil Perry about Stefan Diggs being concerned about his week one availability. Here was the exchange.

[D]

He's not sure about his readiness for week one. Did you really believe that, Phil? I mean, you're a smart guy. I don't know where he went to school. It wasn't Ohio State. But, like, do you really believe that? Do you really believe that, Phil? Are you just trying to bait me with something? I'm not bait. Okay. He did say he wasn't sure he'd be ready for week one. Is there any doubt in your mind? I, I, I don't know the context.

[A]

In which he said it, but you, you'd have to help me.

[D]

I mean, he's been out here almost every day. I'm excited of where he's at, and.

[A]

We'Ll see when week one come. So, Doug, you have the honor of being a coach and working in the media. Yeah. Was he trying to bait Brable? And how do you feel when this happens to you as a coach. Do you feel like you get baited sometimes? I don't feel like it. Well, okay. There's a. I think a guy who does an excellent job, a local writer, and I don't think he baits, but it was like we had a conversation where we were talking about a bunch of things, and I said, hey, you know, he's like, well, what's going to change with radio? And I was like, well, nothing. I was like, I don't know. Maybe there's a. Maybe there's a chance I take a day off if I feel like I need to focus for a day on a particular game. I mean, the honest thing is, I actually need the radio the day of the game because otherwise I just. You just sit there in your room watching film over it like you get bored. Yeah. There's nothing you can do if you're not prepared. Prepared, I would understand, but there's no cramming in college basketball anyway, so how the story came out was different than how. What we were talking about because, you know. Yeah. And so you do have to be very careful with it. And. And people ask me all the time, what have you learned the most? Well, I've learned that I'm not a head coach, I'm a CEO. Right. But I've also learned that just say less. That's right. As much as I. As much as I want to explain everything, like, nobody cares. What's going to change? Nothing. We're still doing the radio show. It's going to be awesome. I'm more focused. I have my own personal assistant, so everything is way more prepared for everything that I do. And our team is better. Our team is older. Our coaching staff knows the rhythm of everything. We're going to be better across the board, period. Stop. Move on. Next question. So I don't know if it's necessary baiting, but, yeah, it's leading the witness. There you go. That's the news. Well, that's the news, and thanks for stopping by. The herd lie news. The greatest or maybe most interesting 911 call you're going to hear. Don't worry, you're going to laugh. It's next. I'm Doug Gottlieb. This is the Herd. Be sure to catch live editions of the Herd, weekdays at noon Eastern, 9am Pacific.

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[D]

911King227 at George Web 19555 West Blue Mountain Road called 911 because they won't.

[A]

Give him his free burgers for the.

[D]

Brewers game today is advised the game wasn't over yet. Not sure if the subject's still standing by.

[A]

Think about that for a second. Guy wants his burger so bad, he goes to the restaurant before the game is actually completed. Right? Now, the downside is it's kind of a snap. Sad snapshot of society, right? You wanna know the plus side there? There is that you're like, what's the positive? Well, there's two positives. One, that these type of randoms are paying attention to baseball. I think that's right. That's the. It's like the SEC says it means more, but I don't know any 911 calls coming about free meals in the SEC. That's pretty good. And the second part is, if you know anything about Milwaukee and you know, some of the strife they've had, some of the racial issues they've had, especially in Racine, right. If this is the biggest problem in Milwaukee, remember there's flooding last weekend, 1112 inches of rain in a day was crazy, right? Even the Brewer Stadium, American Family Field, the parking lots were flooded. And they drain it out just before the game. If this is the biggest problem that dudes are calling 911 because they're not getting there, give me back my free burger.

[D]

This is a tasty burger.

[A]

It is a tasty burger. Doug, to what extreme would you go to to get a free promotion? Oh, I'm. If it's free, it's me guy. Really? Yeah. Wow. Like, there's 23 locations, and I love burgers, and I would probably hit several of those locations. I mean, and. And here's how cheap and low budget all my friends are. We would get water, right? Like, you're supposed to go in there and, like, you know, fries, Coke, maybe a milkshake, maybe something else. Maybe a second burger. You get that first burger free. Like, I was like, no, no. I mean, when we. I grew up Tustin, Orange, California, went to high school in Tustin, California, the player of the week used to get. What's the Sizzler? Yeah. All you can eat. All you can eat bar. And so we'd wait till, like, the third week in a row, and there'd be three guys would have it, and they would bring three guys with them because we were so low budget. Like, hey, we just all use it and we all sit around, like, who's going to know, right? Danny, super slam is only a buck 99. I'm going to eat that as often as possible. So what? To what extent A lot. Okay. Would you be the guy who asked for a water cup and then put in it all the time?

[D]

Yes.

[A]

That cheap. Okay. Yes, yes. I hate when my kids do that. Now what I've, what I've taken to now is I will do it only because I'm trying to cut as much sugar for my diet as possible, right? I will do water and then just a little, little, little tap, little tap of lemonade. So I get a little lemon water. But yes, I've done the water cup. That's who I am, man. I can't, I can't suddenly not become cheap when I'm been cheap, you know, But I'll over tip, you know, I would over tip, but I would not, not spend on a soda cup. Colin's back on Monday. What Colin got right, what Colin got wrong. Have a great weekend. Colin will learn to wear a hat this weekend. This is the hurt.

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