THE HERD - Hour 3 - Bill Belichick's Debut in Chapel Hill

Summary

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Podcast Summary: The Herd with Colin Cowherd

Hour 3 - Bill Belichick's Debut in Chapel Hill
Date: September 1, 2025
Guest Host: Jonas Knox

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Episode Overview

This hour of The Herd, guest-hosted by Jonas Knox, centers on Bill Belichick's historic college football coaching debut at North Carolina, the ripple effects throughout college football, and a deep dive into NFL news with a specific focus on the Dallas Cowboys' controversial trade of Micah Parsons. Jonas weaves in stories of fan culture and the unique spectacle of college football, all wrapped in a tone that's lively, critical, and packed with wry humor.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Unpredictability of College Football Openers

[04:00 - 08:44]

• Perspective on Challenging Openings: Jonas reflects on how elite college football programs often schedule "cupcake" matchups in Week 1, noting it's understandable given the lack of preseason games. He references past struggles of teams like LSU and Texas, and emphasizes not to overreact to Week 1 results.

  • “When these teams do schedule really difficult matchups, I’m never overly judgy on how that goes.” (Jonas Knox, 05:32)

• Arch Manning’s Debut: Discussed how high expectations often set up young players—like Texas QB Arch Manning—for outsized criticism when they falter early.

  • “Whoever started that, you gotta look back and go, man, why would we think that a guy coming in on two starts was going to go into Columbus and just light up the Buckeyes...?” (Jonas Knox, 07:11)

2. The Bill Belichick Chapel Hill Era Begins

[08:46 - 15:40]

• A Surreal Sideshow in College Football: Jonas is fascinated by seeing Bill Belichick, the NFL's greatest coach, striding the sidelines for UNC. It's less about on-field expectations ("I don't think anybody really has an expectation for Belichick") and more about the intrigue, likening the moment to Deion Sanders' arrival at Colorado.

  • “This is just part of the revenge tour. This is the first stop. Eventually, he’s going back to the NFL. If you were asking me to bet money on which team’s gonna hire Belichick next year, I’m betting on the Dolphins.” (Jonas Knox, 11:50)

• Belichick’s “Revenge Tour”: Knox argues Belichick is coaching with a chip on his shoulder after feeling underappreciated by the Patriots and shunned by most NFL teams this past offseason, especially after the Atlanta Falcons passed on him.

  • “He’s made it a point on multiple occasions to point out all the success that he had [in New England]... I’m still not over the way I was represented.” (Jonas Knox, 09:44)

• Belichick Compared to Other College Hires: He points out the similarity to the Deion Sanders hire at Colorado—both moves injected unprecedented buzz, but true expectations are a mystery.

• College Football’s Slappy Culture vs. the NFL: Knox teases Belichick about adjusting to college football's irreverent traditions and pop culture messiness, totally unlike the buttoned-up NFL.

3. NFL Hot Topic – The Cowboys’ Micah Parsons Trade

[19:43 - 31:09]

• Medical Uncertainty around Parsons: Knocks shares Adam Schefter’s report (20:10) about Micah Parsons’ back injury and possibly needing an epidural before the opener with the Packers. He mocks Dallas fans for potential overreactions and dismisses the idea that Parsons is truly damaged goods.

  • “If they wanted to give him an epidural with a javelin because his was so screwed up... I’d still take Micah Parsons.” (Jonas Knox, 31:56)

• Questioning Jerry Jones’ Decision Making:

  • Jonas mercilessly critiques Jerry Jones for trading away Parsons—arguably the best player at a premium position—and compares Jones to the famously erratic Woody Johnson, owner of the Jets, rather than the legendary Jimmy Johnson.
  • “At some point, someone’s got to tell Jerry Jones that he’s more like Woody Johnson than Jimmy Johnson, because this is nonsensical.” (Jonas Knox, 27:36)

• Cowboys’ Organizational Identity Crisis: Jones’ previously greatest strength—loyalty to “his guys”—was shattered by the Parsons trade. Now Dallas, Jonas argues, resembles other dysfunctional franchises.

4. News and Lighter Fare – With Lee Dillak

[31:09 - 38:46]

• Random Jersey Number Swaps: Musings on Packers players’ number changes, highlighting the quirky appeal of obscure jerseys.

• Traveling With Liquor: Lee’s tip: mini Evan Williams bottles in a Ziploc bag.

• Oddities in Baseball Stadiums: Jonas playfully rants about baseball being the only sport to allow unique, sometimes unsafe outfield dimensions, recounting Taylor Ward’s collision with a scoreboard.

  • “It’s the only sport where teams are just allowed to manipulate the playing surface...” (Jonas Knox, 35:36)

• Wrestling Mayhem: Reports of a wrestler (“Psycho Stu”) suffering serious injuries during an unscripted brawl, and the oddity of showmanship taking precedence over safety.

5. Bill Belichick: The College Football Spectacle

[44:28 - 52:54]

• Chapel Hill Star Power: The UNC home opener becomes an instant must-see event—celebrity guests to include Michael Jordan, Mia Hamm, Lawrence Taylor, and others.

• Fan and Pop Culture Blitz: North Carolina is fully embracing the spectacle, even selling “Hair Jordan” t-shirts referencing Belichick’s much-discussed relationship with girlfriend Jordan Hudson.

  • “Belichick didn’t have to deal with that in New England, right? The only time Belichick had to deal with anything goofy off the field was when his owner decided... why don’t we go to Orchids of Asia...” (Jonas Knox, 49:23)

• College vs. NFL Culture: Knox emphasizes how the college atmosphere is far more unpredictable and goofy than anything Belichick encountered in Foxborough.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On early judgment in college football:

  • "Everybody just relax, everybody just slow down. Things are going to look a lot different, right? Things are going to look a lot different..."
    (Jonas Knox, 07:57)

• On Belichick’s motivation:

  • “This is the first stop. Eventually, he’s going back to the NFL. ...It’s a revenge tour against Robert Kraft. It starts at North Carolina.”
    (Jonas Knox, 12:22)

• On the Cowboys’ organizational identity:

  • “At some point, someone’s got to tell Jerry Jones that he’s more like Woody Johnson than Jimmy Johnson, because this is nonsensical..."
    (Jonas Knox, 27:36)

• On the college football spectacle:

  • “North Carolina is rolling out everything... The celebrities are going to be in attendance. They’re making t-shirts not only of Bill Belichick but Belichick’s girlfriend—like, they are letting him know this is a different atmosphere.”
    (Jonas Knox, 48:46)

• On baseball’s unique stadium quirks:

  • “It’s the only sport where teams are just allowed to manipulate the playing surface in the field of play... why is that fair?”
    (Jonas Knox, 35:36)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [03:37] – Jonas Knox sets the stage: Labor Day, oddities of morning radio, and transition to college football discussion.
• [04:00 – 08:44] – Deep dive into why early college football games aren’t great barometers, and Week 1 overreactions.
• [08:46 – 15:40] – Belichick’s UNC debut dissected; coach’s NFL future and “revenge tour” theme.
• [19:43 – 31:09] – Dallas Cowboys & Micah Parsons trade outrage; Knox’s critique of Jerry Jones.
• [31:09 – 38:46] – “The Herd Line News” with Lee Dillak: jersey trivia, stadium quirks, wild wrestling injury story.
• [44:28 – 52:54] – Final thoughts on the spectacle of Belichick’s UNC debut, celebrity guests, and culture clash.

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Tone and Language

Jonas Knox delivers with sarcasm, skepticism, and playful candor. He pokes fun at the absurdities in both college and pro sports, freely mixes in pop culture references, and keeps things fast-paced and entertaining, with no sacred cows—except maybe Bill Belichick, who becomes the hour’s main character.

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Conclusion

This episode is a can’t-miss for anyone fascinated by the intersection of football tradition, media spectacle, and the strange new world Bill Belichick steps into at UNC. Jonas’s combination of irreverence and insight—alongside lively news and banter—makes for a jam-packed, engaging listen.

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Transcript

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[Jonas Knox]

It's a herd here on Fox Sports Radio. Jonas Knox in for calling. You can find this show on the iHeartRadio app. You can find us on hundreds of affiliates all across the country wherever you are, making us a part of your Labor Day. We appreciate you doing so now. I am normally on the air during the week, Monday through Friday 6 to 9am Eastern Time, 3 to 6am Pacific Time with Levar Arrington and Brady Quinn. It's called Two Pros and a Cup of Joe. This is always a very interesting and bizarre world to live in. Looking around and there's actually daylight out cars on the road, you know, not, not anybody wandering the streets with paraphernalia like spoons with burn marks on the bottom and other things around the the mean streets of Sherman Oaks, California. Always a different world when there's actually a light out and people around than driving in at 2 in the morning. Always a different world. But we, we are having a good time here on this Labor Day Monday. A lot of college football to discuss. And my point on the the college football weekend is it used to be back in the day where and I never, I never judged these two. I never did. If Nick Saban or one of these other schools scheduled a quote unquote cupcake early on, I never complained or never judged because I could understand why they would take that approach. Because with no preseason with no you got to get yourself going. So the idea of opening up in a difficult place on the road is a lot to ask for. We had a chance, we talked with Kenny Dillingham a couple of weeks ago and just kind of asked him like hey man, with no preseason game because there's a lot of people like well you know the NFL preseason, do we really need it? Et cetera, et cetera. I said, look, in college football you don't get a preseason. That's Kenny Dillingham. Like, hey, if you look with no preseason, how do you feel about the first week of the year? And he goes, it's always the one I worry about the most because you're just not sure, like you're dealing with, you know, 18, 19, 20, 21. Well, now it's college football with the portal, 35 year old kids. It's like now, now, I mean that part of its change. But the point is like when these teams do schedule really difficult matchups, I'm never overly judgy on how that goes. Like Brian Kelly and LSU had been hearing for a long time about their struggles. Early on, I think they had lost five straight openers. Brian Kelly was.03 and openers, remember last year they opened the season against USC in Vegas and Brian Kelly opens the year and they lose again and it's like, oh man. But ultimately LSU figured it out and they were making a run late and USC was awful. It's like things change after the first week. And for Brian Kelly and LSU to come from Death Valley, go to Death Valley and win that game the way they did, that's impressive. But Clemson, it's not going to be a knock on Clemson. Clemson will, you know, bounce back and figure it out. They've got a potential Heisman candidate and Kate Club, Nick, like, they've got an opportunity to make a run, win that conference. They're going to be fine. Texas, Ohio State, I mean, look, yeah, it's a tough loss for Texas, but Texas will bounce. They're going to bounce back. And Arch Manning struggled. It doesn't mean he's going to be, he's going to struggle this much the entire year. Just maybe he wasn't exactly what everybody presented him to be, but that wasn't his fault. Whoever's, whoever started that, you got to look back and go, man, why would we think that a guy coming in on two starts was going to go into Columbus and just light up the Buckeyes, who by the way, just won a national championship. So like you look at these week one debuts of these new teams and you look at how they're presented and you look at, it's like, everybody just relax, everybody just slow down. Things are going to look a lot different, right? Things are going to look a lot different, which is what makes this debut that much more entertaining because we are going to get later on tonight the debut of Bill Belichick, the college football coach. And I can not wait. I love this version of Bill Belichick parading around with a. Parading around with a rocket ship. They're doing trademarks. He's dressed up like he's the Vandy Camp's mascot. They're doing photo shoots in Nantucket. I don't know. Yeah, you do. You were there. Okay. Thank you. You're welcome.

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[Jonas Knox]

Yeah, we got, like, an hour. Answer the question twice, Liz. I'm not even asking you anything. Bill. Let me speak for you, Bill, okay? Because you are now going to be taking part in the banana land that is college football. And of course, he opens up the year in prime time in a standalone opportunity. Like, listen. Like, he did many years in the NFL, and it's going to be Bill Belichick in North Carolina against tcu. And what's so fascinating about this debut for Bill Belichick is, don't worry, there's only going to be one of these because he's probably gone after this year back to the NFL. That would be my guess if I was betting right now. Bill Belichick is coaching in the NFL next year. Try to do what's best for the team. If North Carolina wins eight, nine games and he's successful, Belichick's gonna be back because he's got a little bit of a red about the way that he was portrayed by Robert Kraft and the New England Patriots. He's multiple times pointed out how things got sideways. How when Robert Kraft says, oh, well, you know, my. My. My most successful risk that I took was joining was hiring Bill Belichick who would. And Belichick was like, no, it was kind of a risky job that I took. Like, he's made it a point on multiple occasions to point out all the success that he had there. Talked about when they were successful in New England and how that ties into the college football atmosphere when they were successful, there were less cooks in the kitchen, so to speak, et cetera, et cetera. Like, Belichick has made it a point to let everybody know I'm still not over the way that I was represented after I left. The fact that I wasn't interviewed for more jobs other than the Falcons was preposterous. The fact that the Falcons didn't hire me because you had insecure people in the front office who didn't want to collaborate with Belichick because of the power that he might have is ridiculous. The fact that nobody else brought him in for an interview is insane. And so Belichick's like, all right, cool, I'll go coach college football. And what if he's successful? Like, what if this works? What if this one works? What if this debut for Belichick works? Like, we're talking about the Arch Manning stuff and it's like, oh, boy, what a disappointment. It's like, well, the expectations were a little bit out of whack. I mean, the Heisman odds, et cetera, et cetera. I don't think anybody really has an expectation for Belichick. I think everybody's just really intrigued by it. It's similar to the Deion Sanders stuff when he took over Colorado. You could say whatever you want about Dion's run in Colorado, and look, they lose the opener. Some clock management issues, you know, some things that, you know, looked a little bit, a little bit odd there, but nonetheless, say whatever you want about Deion Sanders. They didn't win a conference championship. They haven't won a national championship. Here's what I do know. That program he took over was a diaper fire. Dion took him over a year after a one win season. They were having rap concerts before games. He completely changed the program. But I don't think anybody looked at Deion Sanders in Colorado and were like, God, oh, boy, this is going to be this and it's going to be that. I think we were just really intrigued. I was. Same thing with Belichick. I'm fascinated to see how this is going to go. We've never seen it before. He's the greatest of all time, and he's trying to do it at the college level. We've never seen him do this before, but I think this is just part of the revenge tour. This is the first stop. Eventually, he's going back to the NFL. If you were asking me to bet money on which team's gonna hire Belichick next year, I'm betting on the Dolphins. I'll take Miami. Not I like Mike McDaniel. But if, you know, if we were talking earlier about things, feels like things are going to go sideways there in Miami, if they're going to make a change. You imagine Belichick going to Miami, going back to that division to see Robert Kraft twice, twice a year. So while this is a debut for Belichick and I'm fascinated to see what it looks like, I don't think this is the end of the road for his coaching career. Like, I don't think he just goes to college and says, I'm good here. Nick Saban may or may not come back. Who knows? There's some people like, ah, you know, we, we feel like he's gonna come back and, you know, maybe he won't like. Who knows? A lot of Alabama fans would like him back in Tuscaloosa. I can't imagine he would go back there after walking away from the whole thing. Maybe he has a better understanding about. But like, I think Belichick's gonna be back. I think this is a pit stop. He's on tour. It's a revenge tour against Robert Kraft. It starts at North Carolina. But whatever expectations there were for Arch Manning or any of these other programs going into this weekend, I don't think anybody has an expectation for Belichick. Cause I don't think anybody knows what the hell this is going to look like. It's going to be odd to see Belichick on the sideline for North Carolina. Like the entire, the entire story this offseason. Like, you didn't hear anything about the football roster. All you heard about was the stuff with his girlfriend, like all these, like, deep dives and investigative YouTube reports and all this stuff. I don't think anybody has a real idea what this is going to look like. Mike Lombardi running things behind the scenes there. Belichick on the sidelines coaching North Carolina. That's what makes this one more interesting in my mind than any other day, debut or presentation we've gotten this weekend because we're going to get to see something we never thought we'd see and we've never had the opportunity to see before. And it's Bill Belichick coaching at the college level. And it all starts tonight. But ultimately I think it ends with him back in the NFL at the Jonas Knox on X. At Jonas Knox show on Instagram is where you can find us. All right, so coming up next here on the Herd, somebody in the NFL gets a lot of love, gets celebrated a lot. But if you think about it, there's not a lot that separates him from one of the worst in the league. I'll tell you who that is. Next, be sure to catch live editions of the Herd, weekdays at noon Eastern, 9am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, FS1 and the iHeartRadio app.

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Seattle for details, it's the herd here on Fox Sports Radio. Jonas Knox in for Colin coming up in a little over 10 minutes from now. It's kind of a strange thing that happens, or actually not even half. It's just accepted in the world of sports and unfortunately it resulted in an injury, a bad one. We'll tell you who that is coming up here a little over 10 minutes from now. Um, by the way, Adam Schefter just sent this tweet out a couple of moments ago that packers linebacker Micah Parsons has been dealing with an L4 L5 facet joint sprain in his back and he may take an epidural injection prior to Sunday's game versus the Lions if needed to help him play. Per sources before trading Parsons last week, the Cowboys prescribed him a five day plan of anti inflammatory Cordycera, whatever it is, who cares? Another drug? Listen, I'll be honest. I'm not gonna sit here and try and read Adam Schefter's copy and paste, you know, epidural anti inflammatory medicine stuff. But the point is was to help him recover from back tightness. They also had him on a physical therapy program. Parsons has been practicing this week and he is trying to play in Sunday's open reverse alliance, though one source said it is still uncertain if you will so that according to Adam Schefter so now if you are a crazy, crazy Dallas Cowboys fanboy or fan girl. And there are several out there. Like, they're like, there are a lot of people out there, people that want to like, buy whatever Jerry Jones is selling. Like, there's a lot. If you're one of the. You could look at that and go, oh, so that's why they traded him. Oh, that's why he was damaged goods. Way to go, packers give up two first round picks, guys, damaged goods.

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[Jonas Knox]

I mean, that's. Listen, that, that is one approach to take. That's. That's one perspective to have. You. You could look at that as damaged goods. Fair. That's also absurd. What else is absurd? And I was making this point earlier that you cannot cure crazy. At a certain point. You just have to acknowledge it. If you're in a relationship, if you got a buddy, if you got. Look, whatever. If you're around somebody who's nuts, you can defend them all you want or you can just say, at a certain point, yeah, you're right, they're crazy. And Jerry Jones trading Micah Parsons is crazy. Jerry Jones also spoke with the NFL Network and had this to say. Our player that we got is outstanding. This on the trade, by the way. Our player that we got is outstanding. We knew that. And he'll immediately start making plays for us when we get up there against those Philadelphia Eagles. But the most important thing is we really wanted to stop the run. And Mike is wonderful football player. We think this gives us a better chance to stop the run. Other teams knew that and they threw the ball out quick and they ran against us when we had Micah. And they're really emphasizing pass rush. Okay, all right. So, like, we're, we're going to double down on the, on the stop the run stuff. Fair. Adam Schefter's got a report my Micah Parson might need an epidural before he plays in week one, and he may not play. Okay, got it, got it. But don't worry. The Cowboys did sign Duron Bland to a four year extension. Like, so everybody every. Just relax. They know what they're doing. Everybody's calm down. They know exactly what they're doing. My favorite is how Brian Schottenheimer is talking at a press conference, I think on Friday. It might have been Friday or Saturday. And Brian Schottenheimer is like, listen, man, the goals haven't changed. Like, you know, nothing has changed. The goals haven't changed. Yeah, just the chances of those goals have changed. That's, you know, that's one thing. Like that's, you know, and that feels like it's noteworthy. You know, those. The chances of those goals being reached have changed. And when you see that, you know, the Cowboys are. They signed to Ron Bland and Jerry Jones is talking about, you know, we did bring this in, and we've got all these draft picks now, and it's like, I wonder if he looks at this, and I wonder if he's like, you know, we did the. The Herschel Walker trade, You know, my. My coach, slash de facto GM made that trade, you know, years ago, and look at what it resulted in and all these other picks and these. These legendary players that really set up our franchise. And at some point, somebody's got to tell Jerry Jones that he's more like Woody Johnson than Jimmy Johnson, because this is nonsensical. Like, there's literally nobody in the NFL who would have done this trade other than Jerry Jones. Nobody. And Jerry Jones and. And Brian Schottenheimer and everybody there in Dallas is, like, trying to sell you on the fact that, like, oh, well, we were all. It was a unanimous decision. We all. We all agree that this is the best thing for the football team. No. No way. No way. If you ask Matt Eberfluss, the defensive coordinator in Dallas, if you were to ask Matt Eberflus, hey, would you rather have Micah Parsons or Kenny Clark going into the season, what do you think his answer would have been? And that says Kenny Clark's not a great player. He is a good player. Been to three Pro Bowls. Like, he's a good player, but he's older and he plays a position that is not as valued as pass rusher. The NFL tells you, like, what the most important positions are in the league based on who gets paid the most. That's how that works. It's quarterback, wide receivers, pass rushers. Like, those are. Like, those are the ones. And Dallas traded away one of the best at his position. And Dak Prescott was. We listened to the sound earlier, Ty. Well, you know, things got personal. Apparently. Things got personal. Oh, yeah. And so anybody in Dallas trying to come out with. With rational explanations on this, like, you know, Albert Breer had a quote that, you know, Micah Parsons had an ego. Okay, well, I guess he's the only person in. In Dallas that's got an ego or that was in Dallas that has an ego. Like, it's all bananas, like. Like none of it makes any sense. And Jerry Jones is, you know, wants to wheel and deal, and I'm doing. And it's like, at a certain point, he's Woody. He's not Jimmy, because he's doing a lot of the things that dysfunctional teams and dysfunctional owners have done in the NFL for a long time. And I was making this point over the weekend. I was saying, look, you can go through and talk about the most dysfunctional organizations in the NFL, the ones that have, like, a lot of turnover. And you can go to Carolina with David Tepper. You could go to Washington back when Dan Snyder had him. You can go to the jets with Woody Johnson. And for the longest time, the difference between the Cowboys and those other organizations, other than the fact that, you know, like a couple of those have actually been to a conference championship game in recent memory and Dallas hasn't. But for the longest time, the only difference between the Cowboys and those other organizations is that you didn't have an impulsive owner for the most part, and you actually had a guy who was loyal to his own. Jerry Jones has always been loyal to his own. It's why everybody looked at Dak Prescott and were like, yeah, he's gonna get paid. Of course he is. He's gotten paid twice. In fact, they gave him a monster deal after he broke his leg. CD Lamb. Yeah, of course they're gonna pay him. Ezekiel Elliott, of course. But they tried bringing him back. Like, of course he always rewards his own. He's a really loyal guy. Jason Garrett. He didn't want to get rid of Jason Garrett. Everybody thought Mike McCarthy was gone way before Mike McCarthy was finally left. Like, he's a really loyal guy. And that was really the difference between him and all those other owners. Dan Snyder wasn't loyal to anybody there. Turn and burn. How many coaches were out the door quick? Woody Johnson, same thing. Coach, GM fired coach. GM fired coach, fire David Tepper. David Tepper was so uptight during his firing spree that David Tepper stopped off at a bar on the way to the draft because they had some sign with like a, like a smart ass slogan about David Tepper, like, hey, David, don't screw up the draft this time. And he had to stop in there to go get a word with the people who put the signage up. Well, the only difference between Jerry Jones and those other guys is that Jerry Jones was actually loyal to his players. He was loyal to his guys. He rewarded his own players. He rewarded his people. And all that changed when he traded Micah Parsons, because that was the one that was the no brainer. You could argue against giving Dak Prescott the contract if you want. You could argue against CD Lamb getting the contract. If you want Zeke Elliott, you can argue against all those guys. The no brainer was Micah Parsons and Jerry Jones got into it personally with him, had an issue with David Mulligetta, his agent, whatever it was, and all of a sudden he got impulsive instead of thinking about it in terms of, hey, what's going to make our team better? If I really am all about this super bowl, what's going to make us better? Let's make that move. Let's leave all the personal stuff out of it. Let's make that move. He didn't. Instead of doing what Jimmy Johnson would have done, he did what Woody Johnson would have done at the Jonas Knox on x onasnox show on Instagram. And you can hang out with us as always on the iHeartRadio app, by the way. Coming up in a little over 15 minutes from now, we are going to tell you about the hype train, the hype train that will take center stage in the world of football a mere hours from now. That'll be yours here again on Fox Sports Radio. But right now, it's time for the news. No, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the Herd line news. And for that we turn over one last time to the one and only Lee Dillak.

[Lee Dillak]

Jonas, we're talking a lot about debuts this hour. How about debuts for new numbers in Green Bay? Matthew golden, rookie wide receiver, has changed his number from 22 to 0. He's on the field today. And of course, Micah Parsons, in his first ever practice this summer, is not rocking 11, but rocking number one.

[Jonas Knox]

By the way, Leah, you're a big packers honk. What do you make about Micah Parsons maybe needing an epidural before he goes out there?

[Lee Dillak]

It's a little concerning. Yeah, it's a little concerning. Obviously, he passed the physical. A lot of people thought that this was all smoke and mirrors, that he was basically using that for his hold in. But yes, I guess it's, you know, for real. The L4, L5 in his facet joint sprain, I don't know what that means, but that's what's being put out there in his back. I'm not too worried about it.

[Jonas Knox]

I mean, I, I, they could, they would, he would need a, if they wanted to give him an epidural with a javelin because his was so screwed up. I'll, I'd still take Micah Parsons. I'm good. Like, no offense to Kenny Clark, but I'm good. I'll, I'll take my chances. Micah Parsons with his L4, L5, whatever it is going into week one that I would with Kenny Clark. No offense.

[Lee Dillak]

Speaking of those number swaps there obvious, obviously, they're going to probably give a refund for anyone who bought a Matthew golden jersey. Number 22.

[Jonas Knox]

Right. By the way, how many people you think actually did that?

[Lee Dillak]

I think a couple people did. I was thinking about it, but I already had a number 22 Green Bay packers jersey. Aaron Ripkowski, of course, I have a lot of fullback packers jerseys. But, yeah, number one. No, number 11. Jaden Reed will keep number 11. And Micah Parsons, number one.

[Jonas Knox]

By the way, are you going to get an Evan Williams jersey or what?

[Lee Dillak]

I'm thinking about it.

[Jonas Knox]

What's the problem here?

[Lee Dillak]

Well, the problem is Williams is too generic of a name. There's been plenty of famous Williams on the Packers. There's got to be an aesthetic to the jersey that you. That you purchase.

[Jonas Knox]

Yeah. But you know what, though? They do come in handy because there's a lot of Celtics fans who had a number 7D. Brown jersey from back in the day, and then all these years later, they got Jaylen Brown. It's like, sweet. You just keep the same jersey. You don't have to. You don't have to spend any more money if you were able to hoard that and hold onto it for longer. I just. I don't understand. For those of you that I asked the question, you know, why of all things, Evan Williams. So a little trip back through time. So I was having a conversation with Lee. We were talking about traveling. And for those of you that are not familiar, Lee's got this routine before he goes on trips. What's. What's one place that you go to? And what is. What is something you have to take with you on trips?

[Lee Dillak]

Well, every trip I take, I make a little trip to my local watering hole or liquor store. I should say, grab myself some mini travel bottles, and you got to put them in a Ziploc bag. This is a traveling tip for you. Otherwise, they will be confiscated. But if you put those in a Ziploc bag, you're welcome to take as many as you'd like. And so instead of having to pay up on the. On the plane, I have my own little to go bag.

[Jonas Knox]

And this is factual. Like, everything he's saying is 100% fact. This is what he does. But he took it a step further. I was like, dude, like Lee, so you just. You're gonna go to the liquor to buy, like, mini bottles of Jack Daniels? He's like, no, no, Evan Williams. Yeah. And I had no idea what Evan Williams was until I found out that it was the cheaper version of Jack Daniels.

[Lee Dillak]

Oh, yeah. And better.

[Jonas Knox]

Okay, so. So I was unfamiliar with that. And then when all of a sudden the packers take a guy named Evan Williams. Yes. It seemed like that was a. One of the no brainer moves of all time. Much like trading for Micah Parsons. Why. Why does Lead a lab not have an Evan Williams packers jersey?

[Lee Dillak]

He's a stud, too. He's have his season cut short in his rookie year, but he was a stud up until then and he's going to be a stud again this season.

[Jonas Knox]

Okay, well, I, I think it would be. I think that would be a move to get an Evan Williams packers jersey.

[Lee Dillak]

That might be the.

[Jonas Knox]

To get that together.

[Lee Dillak]

That might be the one. I don't know. I got to get a new jersey every year. That might be the one.

[Jonas Knox]

What else we got late, Jonas?

[Lee Dillak]

Well, we're talking injuries. How about some more injury updates? Taylor Ward did avoid a serious one if you miss it last night. He ran into the metal scoreboard at Dyken Park. By the way, I didn't know that Minute Maid park had changed its name to Daikin Park. Daikin is a air conditioning company in Jap. Anyway, he ran into the metal scoreboard head first last night. Lots of blood. Ends up not being too bad. He just got a nasty cut above his right eye. He's already had it stitched up. Obviously he had a.

[Jonas Knox]

He got.

[Lee Dillak]

He took a 92 mile per hour fastball to the face, I think a year or two ago and had to have facial reconstruction.

[Jonas Knox]

Jesus.

[Lee Dillak]

Reconstruction after that or nasal reconstruction. So that was the big scare. But he avoided it.

[Jonas Knox]

So good job. You know what's weird about baseball? It's the only sport where teams are just allowed to manipulate the playing surface in the field of play, like in the NFL. Listen, man, it's 100 yards, 120 if you add the. In the end zones. Like it's a. Like this. This is what it is. And it's like that everywhere. 50 yards wide, like in the NBA. Like we know what the dimensions are in Major league Baseball. It's like, nah, we'll just throw a giant wall up in left field or we'll make right field shorter. You know, why don't we go ahead and put ivy on the walls during parts of the year, but early on it's just going to be weeds and brick and. Oh, and by the way, we're going to go ahead and put metal in a cage. It's going to be sticking out awkwardly. So outfielders cave their face in when they're trying to make plays. It's like they determine how far a ball is hit, if it's a home run, where the power alleys. Like, it's. There's no. And look, I like that about baseball because it does make the viewing experience when you go to a bas stadium much better than going to an NFL stadium because it's more unique. But it is weird that two teams in the same division or in the same league have two completely different dimensions when it comes to their park. It just like, it's. It's odd that that's how it's done and it's just accepted. Like, hey, one place has more foul territory than the other. Why? Like, what. Why is that fair? Like, who thought that would be a good idea? But in baseball, and it's not the first thing. Remember Houston? The Astros used to have that hill in the outfield, Like a random hill, just. Just sitting there in the outfield. And nobody thought that. Like, yeah, this is awkward. Until years later, like, yeah, we should probably get rid of that. Oh, but they kept the metal cage up so Taylor Ward could cave his face in. That's nice. Like, Taylor Ward's walking around like Vanilla sky because the Astros wanted to get goofy and put up a Tetris unit in their. In their outf. I don't get it. Doesn't make any sense. What else we got, Lee?

[Lee Dillak]

Somebody else who's recovering from some. Some facial injuries. Psycho Stu. That being Stuart Smith, wrestler who is brutally attacked by Raja.

[Jonas Knox]

I thought you were talking about Jason Stewart, our executive producer.

[Lee Dillak]

Oh, no, I just saw him. He's doing just fine. Yeah, yeah, he's doing just fine at the other side of the hall there.

[Jonas Knox]

Psycho Stu. You piss him off, you're gonna have to feel the wrath. Piss off, J. Stu.

[Lee Dillak]

Yeah, Wild.

[Jonas Knox]

He got.

[Lee Dillak]

He got released from the E.R. his injuries include trauma to both his upper and lower jaws, a laceration to his upper lip, and a fract fracture to the maxilla bone, which unfortunately resulted in the loss of several teeth. He's got a long road to recovery. And my question is, what is going on with Raja Jackson? Is he going to be charged with anything? Some have thought even attempted murder?

[Jonas Knox]

I mean, I look it. You'd be hard to argue against that. I just. My fit and listen, it's a difficult topic because it felt like there were some people who are not in the know. This guy tried to. He makes some sort of a wrestling. He tried to make it A spectacle. He tried to do some stunt beforehand where he like smashed an open beer on, on Raja. And apparently Jackson didn't know that that was part of it, but then went on live stream saying, I'm gonna beat this guy's ass if I get an opportunity in there. And the guy tried to apologize and say, oh, listen, man, I thought, you know, it was just all part of the act, but you know, like, look, if you, if you want to get your receipt in the ring, I get it. And a receipt in wrestling is when you get payback. If somebody hits you harder than they thought, eventually you'll get your receipt. Like, hey, I'm gonna get my receipt today. Okay, Understood. Yeah, I kind of, you know, went a little too far last time, or I hit you when I was trying to pull my punch, whatever. But the best part about all this is while this guy is literally nearly getting beaten to death and he's unconscious in the ring and he's bleeding everywhere and choking on blood and he's losing, he's lost teeth, he's got facial fractures, somebody gets down to cover him for the win. Like, they're like, we gotta keep with the storyline. Like the guy's literally dying in the ring and they're like, well, hook the leg. At least the ref gets down there to count. Like, what are we doing here? So I do, you know, at least they wanted, you know, they, they take their job so serious that even a guy who's, who might be dying still, we gotta make sure we do this the right way to honor the, the great art of professional wrestling. So there is that. But yeah, I don't know what happened to Jackson's son, if he's gonna get arrested or what went on that was problematic. All right, that's lead to laugh with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The herd lie news. Jonas Knox in for calling Here you can follow along on X at the Jonas Knox. You can also catch us on Instagram as well too. At Jonas Knox show. At Jonas Knox show. You know, somebody's really rolling out the red carpet carpet. All right, you talk about hype. It all takes center stage just hours from now. And we'll tell you what that is next. Be sure to catch live editions of the Herd. Weekdays at noon Eastern, 9am Pacific.

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[Jonas Knox]

Seattle for details, Jonas Knox in for Colin Cowherd here on the Herd on Fox Sports Radio. By the way, shortly after the show, our podcast will be going up. If you've missed any of today's show, be sure to check out the PODC Search Herd or two Pros wherever you get your podcast. Be sure to also follow rate and review the pod. Again, just search Herd or two Pros wherever you get your podcast. You'll see today's show posted right after we get off the air. You know, we were making the the point earlier that college football fans are a little crazy. Like, like a little nuts. Jenna writes in on X. Those Southern schools love college football so much. Cause that's all they have. It's either football or sleeping with your cousin. Which I think is just disrespectful. And I think that's, I think we're generalizing and we're taking shots at a Southern football fan. I, I wouldn't condone that sort of content. I would not condone that sort of remark here on this show. That feels like, that feels like some slander there. Eddie writes in. What's with all these Miami Dolphins coaches? Wasn't there another guy who was snorting some of the, some of the powder off the desk? Yes, there was. Yes, there was. Yeah, that is. You are correct, sir. That was, that was taking place back in the day on video, no less. Just so everybody knew. Hey, what's that? You got a. Got powdered donuts under your nose? No, stay. Spilled some Ajax on the, on the counter and decided to get after a little bit. So that is the, that is the content and the feedback we're getting when it comes to Southern football fans. Look and listen that the fan bases are crazy, right? They get a little bit nuts. They're not the only fan bases that get a little nuts. A little crazy from time to time. I can remember the first time I took my son to A baseball game. We go to Wrigley Field. My son loves the Cubs. Go to Wrigley Field. We're sitting there. It's like a special moment. You know, I'm there with my wife, my young son, my brother is there watching the Cubs. It's the summertime in the bleachers at Wrigley Field. And for some reason, my son stopped paying attention to the game. I couldn't figure out why he was looking at something else. And I pan over to my right and there is a beer cup snake the size of the Willis Tower in Chicago that's just making its way around. Like, you know, fan bases get after a little bit, right? And college football fans are no different. That's just the way they operate. And one of those fan bases that is officially back later on tonight, as we mentioned earlier, is North Carolina, North Carolina tcu. That wraps up the college football weekend, the Labor Day extravaganza. The college football weekend. And so they are all about it. You're going to see a star studded guest list for Bill Belichick's college football coaching debut at North Carolina. Michael Jordan expected to be there. Mia Hamm expected to be there. Lawrence Taylor, Julius Peppers, Eric Church, Chase Rice, Blake Snell, all expected to be there for Bill Belichick's debut. And if the idea was something similar to, hey, what, what do we need to do to, to, you know, to, to bring the, the craze back into the building, it worked for Colorado. They did it with Deion Sanders. You can argue they probably didn't need to go out and make a splash higher like this. They had Mack Brown, they brought him back. He had an okay run there with, with North Carolina, but it, you know, not exactly a football power. They look at it like it's a basketball school and they always have. But if you were going to make a splash move and bring in a coach who was going to bring some eyeballs, especially to close up the college football Labor Day weekend, Bill Belichick would be the guy. I also think it's important to point out that they are selling merchandise as well, too. For those of you that are not familiar, Bill Belichick is dating Jordan Hudson. She's a lot younger than Bill Belichick. There's a lot of people who have their theories as to how this whole thing came together, but they are apparently selling shirts. Lee, what do these shirts say? Hair, Jordan.

[Lee Dillak]

Hair, Jordan. We're not going to talk about this, okay?

[Jonas Knox]

I mean, look, man, it's, this is what makes the Belichick experience in college football. So much more fascinating because there is a, a slappiness to college football that Belichick didn't have to deal with in the NFL. The NFL is like really highbrow. Like some, you know, like, you know, we talk about, you know, beer cup snakes and all that stuff, but for the most part the NFL is pretty high brow. Like when you, when you have a Super bowl, which is what's going to be fascinating if the Bills ever get back to a Super bowl. It's going to be fascinating to see how Bill's mafia is represented at a Super Bowl. Because if you go to a Super bowl, it's very corporate. And in a lot of ways the NFL is very corporate. College football is off the rails. We talked about, you know, the comments from college football fans taking shots at the south. College football's completely off the rails. And so when you see that Belichick, Mr. Highbrow, Mr. Serious is going to coach in college, he's going to have to deal with a lot of the slappiness that he never had to deal with in the NFL. You know, like the student store selling hair Jordan shirts, talking about his 20 something year old girlfriend. And we're not going to talk about it as a tagline at the bottom. It's like Belichick didn't have to deal with that. New England, right. The only time Belichick had to deal with anything that was sort of goofy off the field was when his owner decided before a game, why don't we go to Orchids of Asia and Florida and take care of business? Why don't we, let's operate in a more stress free vibe as we get ready for an AFC championship game. Other than that, Belichick, he dealt with issues, but he didn't deal with as much as the slappiness as he's going to deal with in college. And I'm really curious to see how he takes to it because there's some coaches who just fully embrace it and say, yeah, like Lane Kiffin loves it. Lane Kiffin eggs it on. He has fun with it. Saban kind of, you know, but he won so much that he didn't really have to, you know, he didn't really have to deal with a lot of that. But for a lot of these schools, they do a lot of this goofy stuff. Cause that's just what they're known for, that, that's how they, that's how they represent themselves. And so North Carolina is rolling out everything they've, they've got. You know the celebrities are going to be in attendance. They're making T shirts not only of Bill Belichick, but Belichick's girlfriend. Like they, they are letting him know, like this is a different atmosphere. This isn't like Foxborough. This isn't like the NFL. Like you embrace us, you embrace the goofiness that comes along with college football and what has been listen, maybe on the field, not the greatest product of college football that we've seen this weekend. Notre Dame, Miami was a fun game. Lsu, Clemson, fun game. A lot of sloppiness. But it is good to have college football back. The Labor Day weekend extravaganza concludes coming up later on Ton. And then we've got a long season of complaining and a long season of NFL right around the corner as well too. It's all smooth sailing after here. It's been a fun one. Thanks to lead to lap. Thanks to Chris Perfett. I'm Jonas Knox in for calling here on the Herd right here on Fox Sports Radio.

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