Dan Beyer (3:02)

Is he ready here?

Brady Quinn (3:03)

11:30. Okay. I'm all fired up. I still can't get over. If you're an NBA gm, you're taking Wemby, who's had some. There have been some.

Colin Cowherd (3:13)

Come on.

Brady Quinn (3:13)

Well, no, I mean. But he's had some physical concerns over jokic. Yokich got 3% of the future of the NBA.

Colin Cowherd (3:20)

Well, probably because he's, you know, a little older, and we don't know how he's going to age into his 30s with that body. I mean, that's like a. If you can.

Brady Quinn (3:29)

Dude, if you can shoot and pass, yes, you're going to age well. It's. When you're hyper athletic, you don't age well. Jokic could play till he was 50. He's going to score points, he's going to get buckets. And look at his body. I don't think it's going to break down. He's like a refrigerator with a jumper. A J. Mac with the news. Good.

Colin Cowherd (3:50)

That's good. No, no, no, no, no.

Dan Beyer (3:53)

Turn on the news.

Colin Cowherd (3:54)

This is the Herd line news. I don't know how to discuss this, Colin. There's some sort of cold war brewing, perhaps between your guys, Pete Carroll and Chip Kelly. Moderate. Yesterday, Pete Carroll was taking some shots at the offense. Chip Kelly's now responding. Colin, take a listen.

Chip Kelly (4:12)

I mean, that's what our game plan is every game. When you get in the second half, that skews. But, you know, we had 25 attempts last week in the. In the game. There was real balance in the first half of the football game. When it was a. When it was a close game, I think it gets out of hand. So when you look at some of the numbers, I think we had 25 rushing attempts and 36 passing attempts at.

Dak Prescott (4:27)

The end of the day.

Chip Kelly (4:28)

But in the first half, it was.

Dan Beyer (4:30)

It was pretty.

Chip Kelly (4:30)

It was really even.

Colin Cowherd (4:32)

These guys are friends. I. I don't like this kind of. Pete Carroll not throwing him under the bus, but the comments. We need to run the football.

Brady Quinn (4:41)

Well, Pete's got to get his defense right. It wasn't good in Seattle. At the end, he left it Got better immediately with a new guy. Antonio Pierce's defense statistically was better last year than this year. Pete's gotta. Pete's gotta worry about his defense. That. That was the issue in Seattle. I always. My rule is always follow the coach's side of the ball. When Mike McDonald got the Seahawks job, that defense got better fast. The offense with Geno, then they got Sam Darnold. Now the offense is good, so don't worry. The Raiders with Chip Kelly, they're going to run the ball this week against Tennessee. But it. The issue is that you should hold Tennessee to 13 points or less. They can't move the ball.

Colin Cowherd (5:25)

Well, they also. You lose Colton Miller, the left tackle. That's a big blow to the offense. That hurts, actually, and Genti's game. But I do want to ask. I was thinking about this. So Pete Carroll struggling badly. He's in his 70s. Bill Belichick went to college struggling badly. Obviously for different reasons.

Brady Quinn (5:41)

Well, nobody's in their prime at 70.

Colin Cowherd (5:43)

I know. I'm not saying the game's passed them by, but I'm a little surprised at how bad the Raiders have been. I'm really surprised how bad UNC's been. Is there something to the aging coach, maybe?

Brady Quinn (5:53)

Well, I think all of us are prop. I mean, I do think people are in their prime longer than they used to be.

Colin Cowherd (5:59)

Yeah.

Brady Quinn (6:00)

But I do think once you get into your mid-60s, it's more of a challenge. You can't drink at night. You gotta get your sleep. Take your omega threes and your nad and your magnesium. I think you have to really watch yourself. Once6 is the first number, you just gotta, you know, you just gotta watch. Your diet matters more, I don't think. I mean, we have presidents in the first number seven, so I think football coaches are fun.

Colin Cowherd (6:25)

Let's move on to Dak Prescott. You know, I. I think the MVP discussion is a little goofy this early in the season, but it's undeniable that Dak would be in that discussion with Baker Mayfield and company. Anyways, here's what Dak's got to say about how much longer he has left in the tank.

Dak Prescott (6:42)

If I can get to 40 playing in the standard that I want, yeah, that'd be awesome. But to answer your question, yeah, it's definitely. It's definitely changed. I can see it more realistic. More realistically now. And I think as much as anything, just the fun and the peace that this game still gives me 10 years in is going to be hard. And I don't think I mean you can't supplement it. So as long as I can do this at a level that I'm proud and happy with, I'll keep trying.

Brady Quinn (7:08)

Best he's ever played and he's having to carry this team because I don't have a number one wide receiver, I think and their offensive lines miss starters. I think Dak's playing as well as he's ever played.

Colin Cowherd (7:18)

One of the best spoken quarterbacks in the league.

Brady Quinn (7:19)

Oh, he's just always been really smart. Well, he's always been smart, intelligent. Well, he's always been smart. His issue has always been does he throw a great ball? Not really. But I mean, day one in the league.

Colin Cowherd (7:31)

Kyler Murray throws a great ball his.

Brady Quinn (7:33)

First year in the league. My takeaway was that's the best quarterback at the podium, including Tom Brady I've ever heard. I've always thought Dax EQ iq. I mean, it's not. I mean Dan Mullen was his college coach and acknowledged on our show. We didn't love always the way he threw. We just loved the human. So no Dak Dax the definition of what leadership looks like.

Colin Cowherd (7:56)

And that's with all the nonsense going on in that organization. The owner flicking off fans with the middle finger.

Brady Quinn (8:01)

That was brutal.

Colin Cowherd (8:02)

It's just nonsense everywhere. And he seems very cool and calm.

Brady Quinn (8:04)

Yes.

Colin Cowherd (8:05)

I don't know, maybe I just need to try that just to chill out a little bit. Yeah, I like Dak Prescott. Final story. Colin. Boy, this Eagles offense last night was a struggle bust. And then they did this in what felt like a middle finger. Seriously, they ran the tush push four times in a row so bad they basically said, screw it, we're doing this. We'll see what you got to do. Micah Parsons weighed in online with a tweet. This is not football. And then you see some, let's just say folks who follow the NFL with large social media accounts also saying church push four plays in a row. It's clear, Colin, a lot of people want this play out of the league.

Brady Quinn (8:40)

It's very clear. I think it's going to lose the next vote.

Colin Cowherd (8:43)

Sirianni doesn't seem to care. Maybe he knows, hey, the window's closing. Screw it.

Brady Quinn (8:47)

Let's just put a lot of it's momentum. You know, if somebody got hurt here, somebody.

Colin Cowherd (8:51)

Yeah, I mean they were jumping off sides. I think one of the guards did. I'll say this, their run blocking on the torch bush, great. But they're run blocking regularly. It's not. Saquon has no room to operate.

Brady Quinn (9:02)

We had one big first half run and one, I think, big third quarter run.

Colin Cowherd (9:06)

That's it. Otherwise, it's three yards in a cloud of dust. The interior line has not been that great. Now the pass blocking's good, the run blocking just isn't there.

Brady Quinn (9:15)

J. Mac with the News well, that's the news, and thanks for stopping by the Herd line. Be sure to catch live editions of.

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Dan Beyer (13:33)

That's about right. I mean, I think you got to throw into Miami into the conversation right now. I know that doesn't play into the Big Ten SEC debate when it's all said and done. But the reality is the last two national champions were Big Ten teams. You go back and look at the teams that are playing for it even the semifinals last year, Penn State, Notre Dame, that is not an office in the Big Ten, but still a Midwest team. You're seeing really, a lot of these Big Ten teams, Midwest teams have caught up, and it's important for Big Ten specifically because they're getting more money in for nil. You know, they've. They're just schools with a little bit more money to be able to pass around. And when you think about the transfer report, when you think about how you construct a roster that plays a huge role. And so before NIL really became legalized for a lot of these players, I think the SEC was able to dominate. And now players are willing to go wherever they can to get an opportunity to play, win a national championship, but also, you know, maximize their market ability and maximize. Maximize their ability to make as much as they can. So they're willing to leave the warm confines of the south to be able to go up to the north and be able to take over on some of those teams to go win national championships. So again, I think we're seeing that passing of the torch right now. Still a lot of football left to be played. We'll see how it all plays out, but I don't think there's any doubt about it. Ohio State, Oregon look to be two of the best, if not the two best teams in the country.

Brady Quinn (14:47)

So when, when, when the west coast teams joined the Big Ten, you know, my take was Oregon and Washington already playing. Cruddy weather all the time. It won't matter. The flights are three and four hours. They're not eight. You're not playing in Beijing, it's fine. But USC has been different, Brady. They haven't looked physical. They look like a warm weather team. They got pushed around last week by Illinois. And I said yesterday, this Michigan game, you got Notre Dame coming up. You're not beating Notre Dame there with that quarterback play and that coach. You're not beating Oregon and Austin. This is a defining moment that you have pivoted to Big Ten. I think it's that big of a game for usc. I don't think it's that big for Michigan. I mean, how is your feeling going into this game in la?

Dan Beyer (15:33)

More curiosity than anything else. I mean, very similar to Illinois, who you talked about a little bit ago, disappointed you when they knocked off your, you know, Southern Cal Trojans, but they responded after a really tough loss to Indiana. I mean, you're watching that tape going, how can this be the same team? The way Brett Billen was able to get Illinois to Rally and respond to that. It's going to be very similar to Lincoln Riley. He's got to find a way to get his team to rally, stay in this thing, realize that, you know, it's just one loss. It doesn't define your season or you can't let it define your season. So their physicality will be challenged once again by Michigan because, yes, the passing attack has improved. Bryce Underwood probably had his best passing game this past week versus Wisconsin, but different challenge. And the past defense for Michigan is going to be challenged big time with Makai Lemon, Jacoby Lane, all the playmakers that USC has on the outside as talent of quarterback as Jaden Myava is. So we know that they can match up in that respect. The question is, if Michigan starts to play bowley ball very similar to the way Illinois was able to run against them, are they going to be able to get off the field? Are they going to be able to get stops? Because that the Illinois USC game was not as close as the score predicted. We had his two fumbles that were going into the end zone, one of which never should have been overturned or never should be called in the first place. He was already down. So when you look at this matchup, it's really a challenge to USC to see how they can respond physically more than anything else. And it's going to speak volumes about where this, this program's at. And the tough thing for them is they got to play Michigan. Then you go on the road to play Notre Dame, another physical team. They're going through a gauntlet this season of physicality. They got to play Nebraska at some point too. All those matchups, it's going to be whether or not they can not only survive and then meet that physicality, but sustain it throughout the rest of the season.

Brady Quinn (17:14)

So before I get to your Ohio State game, Notre Dame plays NC State, then they play sc. So it's one of those weird games where your big rivals the following week.

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Brady Quinn (17:24)

C.J.

Dan Beyer (17:25)

Call this a trap game. Trap game is probably fair to say. Yeah.

Brady Quinn (17:28)

Yeah. C.J. carr is playing out of his mind. He. Is he a freshman? I think he's a freshman, isn't he? Is he rickshaw freshman? Yeah, it's about. I mean, he, the kid can play. So I look at Dante Moore and C.J. carr and we came into the year with all these big name quarterbacks and I'm like, no, Those are the two best quarterbacks. Talk a little bit about C.J. and talk a little bit about Dante because I don't think it's close. From what I've watched this season, those guys, that's Sunday football. I mean, it's way too early for C.J. but those guys look special. What do you see?

Dan Beyer (18:03)

Well, let me first say this. I'd throw Fernando Mendoza, Indiana, into that conversation. So he's been phenomenal this year. And also Carson Beck, he's responded well so far. So I would say those four are playing the best quarterback and Joy Insane, as well as number five of anyone in the country right now. But specifically C.J. i mean, look, his grandfather was Lloyd Carr. We all know that his pops played as well. You could just tell the way he plays the game. He's been brought up to be able to read defenses, understand what offensive coordinators are trying to execute on any given play. He's able to manipulate the defense with his eyes. He does things that are just so far beyond where he's at in his playing career at Notre Dame. It gives you the sense that you feel like he's almost NFL, NFL ready because of how he plays the game. He's ridiculously accurate with the football at all three levels in the field. And he can move around, he can create, he can make something out of nothing. So this young man, to me, and I've said this before, I said it when he signed, I think he's going to be the greatest quarterback in Notre Dame history. Like, that's how. That's how special he is. When you watch him play the game, it feels like everything's playing so slow for him. And very similar to that. Dante Moore, who was a big Notre Dame recruiter, ended up going to ucla, obviously found his way to Oregon. Same thing. I mean, these young men, Colin, they nowadays come in so prepared mechanically. There's no flaws in their throwing motion. They're accurate as all get out. They understand what offensive coordinators are asking from them and these different concepts, how they're trying to attack a defense. And you just saw on a big stage vs. Penn State how he handled in that clutch moment. So Dante Moore is draft eligible. He is the guy that, if I was a team looking at this quarterback class, would have up there is one of my top quarterbacks that I'm evaluating potentially taking number one overall. So big game for him this week, obviously, versus iu. He's got a lot more to display, I think. But I think the world of Dante more, too. He's very poised. Another wise young man. When you talk to him, he just feels ready for the moment. Nothing's ever too big for him.

Brady Quinn (19:58)

So you have Ohio State, Illinois. I got to give Ryan Day credit. When people beat up on Ryan Day, my take is, well, he's losing the Harbaughs, Wolverines and Georgia. Let's, let's slow down. But I think it takes some, some security to go. I'm going to go to the NFL and get Chip Kelly. Now, they're friends. I know that. But then he does it again with Matt Patricia. And last year, the Buckeyes were kind of about their offense. This year, they're kind of about their defense. And I got to tell you, when I, when I watch that defense, how much of it Brady is the scheme, Patricia, Because I think Chip Kelly, by the end of that year, they had good players. I mean, a book is obviously ridiculous.

Dan Beyer (20:38)

Yeah.

Brady Quinn (20:38)

But when you watch Ohio State's defense, they shut Washington down. Is it the talent? Is it the players? Is it Matt Patricia? What does the film tell Brady Quinn?

Dan Beyer (20:47)

I think it's the combination of all of it. I mean, I think, you know, first off where you give Ryan Day a lot of credit is the fact that he lost Chip Kelly, you know, he lost Jim Knowles. And so you're, you're, find, you're, you know, finding new people to come into those spots. And for Matt Patricia to come down to the college level, there's a bit of a learning curve there, but also eight new starters on defense. So you, when you take that into account, this group is playing as good, if not better, than last year's defense. And that's really saying something for a lot of guys who are jumping. Like Kaden Curry, who's starting this year, is one of the best edge rushers in the country right now. Orville Reese, Sonny Styles, these guys have really, you know, kind of popped on, burst on the scene as two of the best defenders at the linebacker position you're going to see in all of college football. So it's, it's part of, obviously the players and the skill they have. It's part of the development. I also think it's part of the scheme because it's a very different scheme than what we saw, you know, last year from Jim Knowles, who typically had kind of come from more that 3, 3, 5. And Matt Patricia is so multiple with that NFL approach where you're getting a variety of fronts, a variety of coverages, a variety of looks that you have to deal with. And throughout the course of the game, he's not allowing you to get a beat on things. So defensively speaking, they have been absolutely lights out. And it's in part because that talent and obviously their coaching staff. But also on the flip side, looking at their offense, it's because of how scary they are on that side. I mean, teams are so afraid to give this offense opportunities with the football. Go back to the Washington game. We had seven drives in the entire game. You're averaging usually 12. So people are almost running four minute offenses to start games just to keep Julian sand and Jeremiah Smith and Carnell Tate off of the field. Now, I know Ohio State doesn't run at a breakneck pace either on offense, but still, it goes to show you the respect that I think a lot of teams have and what they think of this team as a whole. But a lot of credit goes to Ryan Day and, you know, giving Brian Hartline that opportunity, who's done a tremendous job with the offense, bringing joy and sand along and really, you know, finding a freshman, and Bo Jackson, who's really emerged as probably their best running back at this point too. For a team that I think is going to be in the national championship hunt once again, you know, that's, that's, that's a lot of credit you're giving a young man to be able to take over at that specific position, to be able to carry the rock for you. But that's how this Ohio State is kind of Ohio State team has emerged this year after all the town that's gone on the NFL.

Brady Quinn (22:58)

Big Noon Kickoff 10 Eastern Ohio State in champagne. I was there last week that the outcome was not my favorite outcome of all time.

Dan Beyer (23:08)

A lot of us loved it. Actually, Colin, a lot of us here in the Midwest were not surprised by it.

Brady Quinn (23:12)

Loved it, I bet. No tears. Great seeing you, man. You did such a nice job. Thanks, Brady.

Dan Beyer (23:19)

Thanks, Carl.

Brady Quinn (23:20)

Yeah, great stuff from him. You know, Ohio State, you can just see on the highlights we show that that defense is, I mean, you know, it's different in the NFL. I was telling the president of Indiana University was here today, a football fan, and we were talking and it's like in the NFL, the worst team in the first, you still have great players. Like, it's a lot of it's just like, who's your quarterback? But in college, there's a gap between, okay, that's Georgia and that's, you know, Georgia Tech or something. And Georgia Tech's fine, but when you watch Ohio State play the last couple years, just turn the sound down. The offense last year, the defense this year, it doesn't look like 99.9% of the rest of college football. That offense at the end of last year it was just the running backs, the wide receivers. It was just like everybody was a Sunday player. That defense right now is stacked and fast. Ohio State's defense is fast. Be sure to catch live editions of.

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Colin Cowherd (27:32)

You even know if Brock Bowers is playing, by the way, for the Raiders.

Brady Quinn (27:34)

Like, I mean they're running the ball.

Colin Cowherd (27:38)

Miami's. Miami's crazy. I mean, going against Jim Harbaugh and Justin Herbert.

Brady Quinn (27:43)

I'm not. It's not who's going to win, it's picking the winner. I picked the Chargers to win. It's who's going to cover.

Colin Cowherd (27:50)

I mean, you know, some of these guys off a loss, you think Jim Harbaugh, he's tearing off the paint in that locker room.

Brady Quinn (27:55)

All right, after that loss, man, let's do it. Tomorrow's headlines. Today we predict the outcome. The headlines. Let's start week six. Let's start with second year quarterback Drake May.

Colin Cowherd (28:07)

Well, this is your guy. You called the Patriots your team of destiny this summer. I was a little dubious. However, they look good. The headline for Patriots Saints will be Boston Tea party animal paint swap bourbon for brew for bourbon. I like the Patriots here big time. Colin, this is one of these. Like I know everybody wants to fade. New England, right? Hey, they just beat Buffalo on Sunday Night Football. They're not that good.

Brady Quinn (28:32)

They're.

Colin Cowherd (28:33)

They're going to fade against the Saints. I think this Christian Gonzalez addition to the defense, he's so good. I looked up the numbers. Colin, he's played since. In the last two weeks, they've had seven targets at Gonzalez. He's allowed three catches. That's it. He's a lockdown corner. So you put him on olave right and he follows him around. Where's Spencer Rattler going? The tight end issues murky. I, I think Vrabel locks up Spencer Rattler in that Saints offense. And if the Saints don't get five turnovers last week, they lose to the Giants. Remember, they were down 14, six early. Colin, I think the Patriots win here. Cover three. Three and a half. I like them kind of. Kind of big.

Brady Quinn (29:09)

All right, tomorrow's headlines today. So this one I stayed away from because I think Stefanski is good. I think the Steelers are a little overvalued. I don't love the number. Browns at the Steelers. I know what you're cooking on this one.

Colin Cowherd (29:26)

You know you're supposed to take Mike Tomlin when he's an underdog.

Brady Quinn (29:29)

That's right. Rah rah.

Colin Cowherd (29:30)

Guy gets everybody fired up. They're big favorites here, but for a reason. The headline for Steelers Browns will be small price to pay. Gabriel can't reach first win. I know you like banging on small quarterbacks. This is a tough spot, Colin. Unbelievable stat for you. Mike Tomlin at home against first year quarterbacks 16 and 1. He dominates these young guys. Throws all these wrinkles at him. And oh, by the way, Tomlin's off a buy. Any idea how he's done off a buy, Colin? Mike Tomlin last five years off a by five and oh, straight up against the spread. You go back eight years, eight, zero. Essentially he's Andy Reid off a buy. The guy uses his week to game plan. He's not like Belichick vacationing in the COD with his young girlfriend. Tom Lund's locked in. I think Dylan Gabriel's in a real tough spot here. And I mentioned the spot because they played in London. Had to travel back to the US Then have to travel. It's not a big trip though, to Pittsburgh. Steelers arrested off a bi. Sleeping in their own beds. There's a reason this number's creeping up. I like Pittsburgh here. And if Aaron Rodgers doesn't deliver, I'll be very shocked. I think Steelers win this by double digits.

Brady Quinn (30:33)

Tomorrow's headlines today, Cardinals at the Colts. Well, Colts are better and gonna win the game by how much?

Colin Cowherd (30:39)

Yeah. We have some breaking news. Kyler Murray is at practice today. He missed the last two days with a foot injury. I personally don't think it matters. The headline for Cardinals Colts will be the hoof. The hoof. The hoof is on fire. Give me the Colts here, Colin, big time. I mean, listen, I'm done doubting Daniel Jones and Steichen, right? I mean, we've seen enough data. Yeah, they're good. They went toe to toe with the Rams. I mean, in a spot last week against the Raiders where you're like, oh, maybe it's a win. They beat them 40 to 6. And some of the numbers for Arizona. Colin They've lost three straight by three or fewer points at some point. How much does that creep into your head? Damn. We keep losing these close games. They led by 14 in the fourth quarter against Tennessee.

Brady Quinn (31:22)

They had San Francisco beat in the.

Colin Cowherd (31:25)

Bay, so you know who else led by 14 last week and blew it was the Philadelphia Eagles. What happened to them the following week? They didn't look from the jump. They just looked kind of defeated and slow. I worry this could be another blowout. The line currently is 7. This Colts team for real. Jonathan Taylor, by the way, leads the NFL in rushing.

Brady Quinn (31:43)

Yeah.

Colin Cowherd (31:44)

Cardinals have not given up 100 yard rusher. If Taylor breaks a couple off, what do we got here? I think Gannon's in some trouble. I know it's a big favorite and, and I'm going three favorites to start here, but give me the Colts now.

Brady Quinn (31:55)

These big favorites have not done well.

Colin Cowherd (31:57)

Not that's also true.

Brady Quinn (31:59)

Rams over the Niners. Bills crushing the Saints. Tomorrow's headlines today, Bucks at the Bucks hosting the Niners. Half of San Francisco's not playing. I'm not touching this thing. You, you're gonna go all in on.

Colin Cowherd (32:15)

So sometimes, you know, you end up fading a team week after week thinking, oh, they're not good at smoking mirrors. That's me with Tampa Bay. The headline for San Francisco. Tampa Bay will be counting kyleries. Shanahan closes down bakery. I got the Niners here beating Baker Mayfield.

Brady Quinn (32:34)

Wow.

Colin Cowherd (32:35)

I know. It's risky, it's dumb. It's probably going to be Mac Jones. My big concern for San Fran is this defense without Bosa Colin. Two weeks toothless not getting to the quarterback can't do anything. I mean, they openly were talking this week. Yeah, we're probably going to look at adding a defensive edge rusher. They need one. And if Baker's got time in the pocket, it could be a problem for the Niners. But why would you doubt Shanahan at this point, right? We both did last week. We got kicked in the teeth. I. I mean, this is feels to me like a big Christian McCaffrey game. The back end of the Tampa defense. Not great. Sam Darnold. Didn't you say he was like perfect last week? He was like, it missed like four incompletions or something. Listen, Mac Jones can deliver. I'll take the three with the Niners.

Brady Quinn (33:19)

Lions at the Chiefs. Finally. Let's wrap it up. Week six. Tomorrow's headlines today. Listen, I thought Kansas City played great against Jacksonville. Patrick Mahomes did not see Devin Lloyd and paid a price. But I think Kansas City's. I stayed away from this game because I think Kansas City, even though I have Detroit as the number one team in the league, it's at Arrowhead. I think Kansas City's gonna win.

Colin Cowherd (33:43)

So we talked about it earlier in the week and I was like, I think Lions, right? I don't know. Colin, you start drilling down on that Detroit resume. They hit number one in the herd hierarchy. The headline for Chiefs Lions will be Boxers or Chiefs. KC stops lion streak. I'm going with the Chiefs. I don't like them this season, but I like them here. Colin, I looked at all these results since that loss to the packers in the opener. They crushed the Bears at home. Detroit did. That's nothing special. 50 points, whatever. They also crushed Jake Browning who's now been benched for Joe Flacco. They also crushed Cleveland in Detroit. Cleveland not good on the road. And that win over Baltimore, which looked amazing, all of a sudden Baltimore can't stop anybody because the injuries. So maybe the Lions resume is not as great as we think it is. And oh by the way, two starting defensive backs, Terry on Arnold and Kirby Joseph, both not practicing this week. Now you're going up against worthy Tyquan Thornton. I this, I think the Chiefs are the side here. Colin, you are looking at me like you don't like this pick.

Brady Quinn (34:45)

Well, I, I, I think the Chiefs are the side. I think and I, I actually, I mean, listen, the Steelers are the side with the Browns. I've just watched three or four of these divisional games that look like locks go the other way. I mean not, not just not covering losing, Rams getting thrown around, Eagles losing badly. I think of all your picks, I think Browns at the Steelers. I think Patriots will beat the Saints. I don't think the Saints are going to score much. I just think it's very low scoring.

Colin Cowherd (35:13)

Matchup to watch in Chiefs Lions is Hutchison who's a superstar going up against the rookie Josh Simmons who all remember the Ohio State kid we heard always.

Brady Quinn (35:22)

He got hurt and he. So he dropped into the bottom of the first round.

Colin Cowherd (35:25)

Right. So this will be the big test for him against Hutchinson. If he can, if he can show out, that's a great sign. And oh by the way, Rasheed Rice coming back soon. If the Chiefs win this one, they're probably going to the playoffs. If they lose, I think that's your show. Opener on Monday. Kansas City 2 and 4.

Brady Quinn (35:43)

Was surprised you didn't take Seattle.

Colin Cowherd (35:45)

The injuries on defense. I can't, I mean I can't do it. And I love me some Jaguars this year. I have a futures bet on them to win the division, so I'm kind of rooting for them every week.

Brady Quinn (35:55)

All right, so Philadelphia lost last night, obviously got blown out. I thought the offense was fine. Greg Cosell has been critical of Jalen Hurt, saying basically he didn't throw the ball over the middle of the field. He didn't see it. And that's okay to us. Same thing. Russell Wilson, they're good deep ball throwers because they need to be. But we had Jordan Palmer, who's always been kind of the quarterback whisperer of our show, talking about why Jalen Hurts is struggling.

Jordan Palmer (36:23)

You keep replacing coordinators every year and because whether, excuse me, whether you're doing that because your team is struggling or because your team's in the super bowl every year, either way, you start shifting coordinators. The media and the fans want to make it about scheme. I think one of the most underrated thing in sports that I don't see owners do is say, we've got a great offensive coordinator. Let's just pay him like a head coach.

Dan Beyer (36:47)

If it's going to cost us a.

Jordan Palmer (36:48)

Chance to win a Super super bowl and make a run, let's just drastically overpay him so we don't lose him.

Brady Quinn (36:55)

Yeah. And I listen Jared Goff has been good with seven different coordinators. So I think losing coordinators is a reality. I think, I don't think he's wrong at all. I think there's. For a lot of quarterbacks in this league, there's a way they have to play. And I think Jalen's one of those guys. I think Josh Allen and Joe Burrow and you know, Mahomes, they can play any way they want. They, they just, they, I think hurts his kind of the classic there. There's a way he has to play.

Dak Prescott (37:27)

Also.

Brady Quinn (37:30)

Most quarterbacks are noticeably better if you give them a strong run game. I mean, you watched Jackson dart last night with Cam Scatter. Boo. It's amazing, isn't it? Looks like he's been in the league for a while. You give, you know, Derrick Henry, Lamar Jackson. The Ravens issues were mostly on defense, right? Patrick Mahomes, their offense in Kansas City this year doesn't have as much rhythm as usual. The reason it doesn't, they don't run the ball. Even Mahomes, when you run the ball, you have a certain kind of a foundation of the house. We can run the ball, we can get first downs. Eagles aren't running the ball particularly well. Tush push is effective but for like 2 yards. So I think when Jalen doesn't have a consistent run game. Last year he did. He was great this year. I mean, watch Cam scatter boo last night with a really effective run game changes everything. It I mean, by the way, Sam Darnold, oh, Seattle runs the ball really effectively. That's a lot of guys. You know, Josh Allen was great without James Cook. I think that's kind of rare. I, I, I, I mean part of the reason Dak is flourishing this year is Javante Williams has actually kind of emerged as the Denver guy pre injury. You're like, oh, that's, that's a B plus, a minus running back. So I think Jalen Hurts is finding out what it's like to quarterback without an effective run game. There's a reason Philly went out and got Saquon Barkley. They had a bunch of guys, they wanted the guy and last year it delivered. This year it's not. And he's regressed. He's pulled back. All right, great. College football Saturday, amazing baseball playoff action all weekend long. First things first, around the corner. We'll see you Monday. Be safe. The Hurt Today's episode brought to you by a scent that's made a legendary comeback degree Original Cool Rush. The OG is back and better than ever. Cool Rush isn't just a scent. It's a movement kind of fragrance guys remember, ask for by name and rave about online. It's bold. It's fresh all day. Sweat protection, cool, crisp vibe that made it legendary. So whether you're heading to the gym, the office, or just trying to stay fresh all day long, Cool Rush has your back. So if you haven't tried it yet, head to your local Walmart. Grab degree Cool Rush, the fan favorite scent from the world's number one antiperspirant brand. The Toyota Certified Used Vehicle Sales event is here. It is packed with great surprises. Choose from a wide selection of low mileage vehicles all backed by Toyota with warranties that begin on the date of purchase. Because when it comes to quality, the best new cars make the best used cars. So don't miss your chance. Find your certified Toyota today, but hurry. These Great offers end November 3rd. Toyota Certified used Vehicle Sales event where every surprise is a great one. Inventory may vary by dealer, participating dealers only. Comprehensive and powertrain are limited warranties. See tcuv warranty supplementtoyotacertified.com or your Toyota dealer for details.

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