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The Herd with Colin Cowherd
THE HERD - Hour 3 - Buffalo Bills coaching situation, Josh Allen's window, Albert Breer
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Colin Cowherd
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Albert Breer
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Fox Sports Radio Host (possibly Albert Breer or co-host)
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Albert Breer
There's a lot going on in the NFL. Giants have an interim coach. Eagles. A.J. brown now has all the leverage. Didn't trade him after the Super Bowl. Didn't trade him at the trade deadline. Well, A.J. brown knows he got the leverage now. They're stuck with him. What to do in San Francisco with Mac Jones. He's under contract with the Niners. They'd have to trade him. But if Dante Moore doesn't come out after Mendoza, there's four teams in the top eight, nine that need a quarterback. All of these questions. Albert Brear joining us live Monday morning. Quarterback, let's start with A.J. brown. Did Philly can seriously think. Did they seriously consider moving him at the deadline because there was noise and drama. There's more after it, but there was some before it.
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Fox Sports Radio Host (possibly Albert Breer or co-host)
No, I mean I think they may consider doing it after this season, but based on where they are and how leveraged they are to win in the here and the now they're defending a championship. This is what they signed up for. They knew what they signed up for. And this is honestly one of Nick Sirianni strengths, is being able to handle and manage egos. It's one of the reasons, reasons why they could afford to take Jalen Carter 9th overall when some teams had him off their boards. And it's why you can acquire a player like this who wasn't always perfect in Tennessee either. So, you know, I, I think the Eagles long ago made the decision they were going to ride it out this year with A.J. brown and, you know, went past the trade deadline without much thought of moving him. Could you get to the off season and could things change then? They certainly could, Colin. I mean that's when you have the wherewithal to actually replace him on the rost, which would have been difficult to do in season and we'll see what his value would be. That's a factor too here. I mean, he's going to be 29 years old, he's got, you know, some chronic knee issues that it was part of the reason why Tennessee traded him in the first place. And so like, I don't think you'd expect to get back for him what you, you traded for him, you know, a few years ago. So like certainly I think that'd be on the table in the off season. But it wasn't, you know, it wasn't last week.
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Albert Breer
We were talking about this with Mac Jones earlier. They're in no hurry to bring Purdy back. Max had a really good season. 3300 yard games without Ricky Pierce, all without Brandon Iuk. I could see Minnesota if JJ McCarthy plays out this season and they don't feel right and they're like they do in Indianapolis and go get somebody they like in the league. This is how Darnold and Baker and Daniel Jones career has been resurrected. That teams are like, we just, there may be one quarterback in the draft we like, we can't get him. Let's go with something we know. I don't know. I think Mac Jones is our next reclamation project. What do you think the Niners do?
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Fox Sports Radio Host (possibly Albert Breer or co-host)
Well, it's interesting you bring that up, Colin, because there are some teams that are already looking at the idea of like, you know, what we do in the off season and could there be another Sam Darnold, Baker Mayfield, Daniel Jones, Gino Smith type of story out there to go and seize upon? Especially like you said, with the draft class maybe not looking like what people had hoped it would be coming into the year. You know, Nussmeier gets, gets benched in the middle of the Alabama game. Drew Aller is hurt, right? Like Lenora Sellers may be going back to school. Fernando Mendoza looks like he's going to go high up, but he may be the only first rounder at this point. You know, we have to let those things play out. But right now it does look like there's going to be more teams needing quarterbacks than are going to be available in the first round of the draft. And so you look at these reclamation projects, and I think the Niners would look at the idea of, of moving him to get some draft capital because they have to get younger and they won't be the only one. You mentioned Minnesota, you know, potentially looking. That could be one of the teams that's looking for one of those reclamation projects. You know, I think Mac Jones is in that category. Some teams have looked at the idea, could Kyler Murray be available after the year? Could Tua Tungavaloa be available after the year? I think there are, there are going to be teams on both sides of this coin. They're going to be teams that are going to be looking at a player on their roster and say, maybe we've, you know, reached the end of the road with this player. Maybe we can get something for him. And I think on the other end of the ledger, you are going to have teams that are going to be looking to see if they can find their own version of Daniel Jones, Baker Mayfield or Sam Darnold.
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Albert Breer
So I was thinking, I mentioned this, that not all coaches that get fired are bad coaches. Mike McCarthy. The two examples I have used to comp Sean McDermott are Chuck Knox and Marty Schottenheimer. Excellent. But they would not. They didn't win enough in the postseason. They were seen as conservative guys. They get to the postseason, Chuck Knox could turn the Seahawks around, the Rams around, Marty did, the Chargers. But eventually people, you start winning those games, they want postseason success. So I've said I feel McDermott is now our, our Chuck Knox. Nobody disputes he can coach, but there are holes on this offense. And Tampa, let's say Tampa goes into Buffalo this weekend and win. Yeah, it's. I think the GM is safe and McDermott is right. That Miami game, if you went home and lost to Tampa, I. It's going to get really uncomfortable. Is there a hot seat with McDermott or is this just media talk thousands of miles away from Buffalo and We don't know what's going on.
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Fox Sports Radio Host (possibly Albert Breer or co-host)
I think for right now, it's just media talk, right? Like. But I would say that having a quarterback of the magnitude of Josh Allen, who, I mean, has probably been the best player in the league over the last two years, does amp up the pressure on everybody to get it done. And, you know, there's a feeling like if you keep knocking on the door and you can't quite get there, then do you have to look at something else to give yourself a spark? I don't think anybody, like you said, would argue with the job that Sean McDermott and Brandon Bean have done, that they've gone to the playoffs in seven of eight years. Considering where they. Where Buffalo was when they got there, it's pretty remarkable. Six playoff years in a row, five AFC east titles in a row. So, like, I think you. You take into account everything they've accomplished, I'm going to give you another comp here that I think is probably apt in this case. Tony Dungy and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. And if you go back and you look in the mid-90s, right, that Buccaneers team that Dungy took over was a sorry outfit, right? Like one of the doormats in all the sports almost. You had to be there to know how bad that was, to remember what that was. They were the laughing stock of the NFL. Tony Duny gets there, he gets them up to level ground. I think they made the playoffs four times in five years, went to an NFC title game, and they kept knocking on the door and knocking on the door, and as they went, Warren Sapp and Derek Brooks and Ronde Barber and John lynch were getting older. And eventually it got to the point where we need somebody to put us over the top. It didn't mean Tony Dungy couldn't coach, but you remember what happened at the end of 01. They started to flirt with Bill Parcells. That didn't work out. They trade for Jon Gruden, they win a Super bowl the next year. Can argue whether or not that was the right move for the long term, but it did get him a championship in the short term. So that's the one that I think of when I'm thinking of this situation again. Like, I. I don't think there's any hot seat there now. We don't know how the rest of the year is going to play out. So if Buffalo were to somehow miss the playoffs, which I don't think is going to happen, to be clear, then I think you start to hear a little bit more of that based on where they are and based on the urgency that's created by having a player. The Magnitude Allen Be sure to catch.
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Albert Breer
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Albert Breer
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Kyle McLaughlin
Each week I invite someone fascinating to join me. Actors, musicians, creatives, highly evolved digital life forms and we talk about what they love. Sometimes I'll drizzle a little honey in.
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Kyle McLaughlin
What keeps them going?
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Colin Cowherd
And you're maybe my biggest competition on social media.
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Albert Breer
Like when a kid says broad and.
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Kyle McLaughlin
And how they're navigating this high speed roller coaster we call reality.
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Colin Cowherd
In Australia, you're looking out for snakes.
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Albert Breer
Spiders and boys, right? Hey, he's no Trey McDougal.
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Chell.
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Albert Breer
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Albert Breer
The either it's, it's really interesting on the Packers. So all of a sudden, Detroit's head coach has taken the game plan away from the OC. Minnesota's got a J.J. mcCarthy issue. The, you know, the Bears are surging and appear to have, you know, the next great young coach, Steichen and Ben Johnson. And here's Matt LaFleur with an offense that is lost. They can't run the ball. And he'd like to. They've. They lost craft, but I mean, just no identity. Cleveland losses, Carolina losses, can't score again. Is. I don't, I think it's absurd to question Matt LaFleur, but it is with it, it always matters. If your rival is surging and you watch Chicago, what do you make of what's happening the heat in Green Bay and lafleur and company?
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Fox Sports Radio Host (possibly Albert Breer or co-host)
Yeah, I think there are a couple reasons why people are, why people are bringing this up now. Number one is a changing of the guard at the top of the organization, right. Mark Murphy was the president there for almost 20 years. He hired Matt LaFleur. He retired over the summer. Ed Policy, who had been there before, comes in as the team president. They don't extend the floor. Or the general manager, Brian Gude Kunst, which naturally raises the question, like, does the new team president, who ostensibly in Green Bay is the owner, does he want to bring in his own people? So that's number one. Then number two, you've got this group of young players that you've built around. It's Jordan Love, but it's also a lot of the other guys around him that are right there in year three, year four, year five. And this is when the rocket ship should be taking off. And then you trade for Micah Parsons, which only pushes the chips further into the middle of the table. And so like, there's that feeling that this is your all in year with Micah Parsons coming over with Jordan Love now on a $55 million per year contract. And if you're not performing to the standard, then you know, those questions naturally are going to come up. New team president, big expenditure on the quarterback, big expenditure on a defensive star. So, like, of course that question is going to come up, like, is this Ed Policies guy going forward? That said, I think he is, you know, and I think if you look at like the value that Matt LaFleur brought to the franchise over, you know, his early years when he was managing the Aaron Rodgers mess, he was developing Jordan Love in the background. He got Jordan Love ready to play There's a ton of value in what Matt LaFleur has accomplished. So I think if this somehow goes the wrong way, my guess would be there may be a staff shakeup, there may be some new offensive coaches there, because I think Jeff Halfley's done a great job on the defensive side of the ball, but I'd be surprised if LaFleur wound up gone.
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Albert Breer
Yeah, finally. I know how this Mike Kafka thing is going to work, is that the media is going to like him because he's friendly and smart. Jackson Dart will like him because he played in the NFL at quarterback. End of the season schedule for the Giants, the weakest part of their tough schedule the last four games, they may win a couple of them. And by the way, he's not as bombastic or as intense as. As Dable, so the players will probably like him. It's my substitute teacher, the interim coach. Everybody always loves him. And then 75% chance, the Giants are.
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Fox Sports Radio Host (possibly Albert Breer or co-host)
Like, you know what?
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Albert Breer
He's our guy. And I said this earlier. Here's what works in New York. Patino, Tory Coughlin, Parcells. Culture changers, where you put up kind of a fortress around your culture, and it doesn't matter what the sport is. Pat Riley, Tibbs had a little bit of this. I got an identity. It's a culture beyond just scheming. I mean, I wouldn't hire Bella. I would go Mike McCarthy or Lane Kiffin. What do you make of. I think this Kafka thing. I think I called a gm. He said, listen, doesn't have much presence. Smart guy, good guy. They're gonna like him. Players are gonna like him. How do you think this thing unfolds?
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Fox Sports Radio Host (possibly Albert Breer or co-host)
So I think you're right to. To feel like this is a very real audition.
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Fox Sports Radio Host (possibly Albert Breer or co-host)
The big reason why they fire Brian Dabel when they did. And it's not a Giants type of thing to do an insight season firing, but it's the definition of insanity to do the same thing over and over again and expect a different result. They're 2 and 8 for the third year in a row.
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Albert Breer
They're.
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Fox Sports Radio Host (possibly Albert Breer or co-host)
They haven't won consecutive games in almost two years, which is pretty remarkable. And they had the blown leads, like, right. Like. So they had the big wins, then they. They regressed. They had the big win over the Chargers. Regressed, regressed against the Saints. They had the big win over the Eagles. They have the blown lead the next week against Denver. Then they have another blown lead against Chicago. So clearly they're looking for a spark. But the Other thing they're looking for here is a real evaluation of Mike Kafka. And I would say this, I would pay attention to the general manager's history. Okay? Joe Shane was in Miami in 2015. In 2015, the Dolphins fired Joe Philbin four games into the year. The interim coach there was Dan Campbell. By the end of the year, Dan Campbell's hand picked coordinators were Lou Annarumo and Zach Taylor. And there was a feeling in that building they had pretty good thing going. And then they wind up saying, nah, you know what, we're going to go with Adam Gase. So look like I think that there's, they're going to cast a very wide net here. That's their intention. They've done a lot of different things over the last 10 years, right? They replaced Tom Coughlin with the young, young offensive assistant, Ben McAdoo. That doesn't work. They bring in the retread, Pat Shermer. That doesn't work. They bring in the CEO type, Joe Judge. That doesn't work. And then they go back to the offensive assistant now, Brian Dabon. That doesn't work. So they are going to cast a wide net and look at a lot of different types of coaches. But look at Joe Shane's history. And I just wonder with, with Joe, is there a little bit of like a, you know, back in Miami 10 years ago, maybe we should have paid more attention to the interim coach because we had a really good one in house. And Dan Campbell, I think that tells you what you know at least about Mike Kafka getting a shot. Not saying he's going to get the job, but I think he does get a legitimate look.
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Albert Breer
Albert Brer, good stuff Monday morning quarterback, all sorts of moving and shaking. Big NFL weekend, some real big swing games. Good seeing you, Albert.
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Fox Sports Radio Host (possibly Albert Breer or co-host)
All right, thanks, Colin.
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Albert Breer
Yeah, I, I think the other thing that's fascinating and I know we're way early on this, but Mendoza for Indiana is going to be the first quarterback taken. Lot of discussion now that Dante Moore stand at Oregon. That, that, that. I'm telling you, Mac Jones is going to be Daniel Jones. He's gonna be, he's gonna be Baker Mayfield. Somebody's got to go trade for that guy because Mac Jones is spinning it without his number one or two receiver J. Mack with the news. No, no, no. Turn on the news.
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Fox Sports Radio Host (possibly Albert Breer or co-host)
This is the Herd line news.
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Colin Cowherd
Seismic matchup tonight, Colin. On Thursday Night Football, the Jets travel to New England. They were up to 13 and a half point underdogs. You'll see that Some jets money showing up today. I don't know if that's dumb money or what, but they're down to 12 and a half. No Garrett Wilson tonight. Obviously, this will be another platform for Drake May to, you know, show everybody that maybe he's better than Jaden Daniels. And let's. Let's be real. There is an mvp.
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Albert Breer
Yeah.
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Colin Cowherd
Conversation for me. I'll be real. Colin. I came on here like five weeks ago. I was like, bet them to be the number one seed. I think that's in play. And if they're the number one seed, May will get a look. I don't think he'll win it, but former North Carolina coach Mack Brown, who coached May, said that he doesn't realize he's a superstar. And.
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Albert Breer
Yeah, no, it's everything. You know, he's very Herbert. He's humble. Big, big arm moves. I mean, that was the comp out of college. He's the East Coast Justin Herbert, and that's what he looks like. Remember Herbert's rookie year when he broke up? He had like 30 touchdowns. Herbert broke all those records. He had Shane Steichen as an offensive coordinator. The team wasn't great, but he was. Same situation. You get a veteran offensive coordinator, a smart offensive guy. He's very much Herbert that you'll get an occasional ugly pick, big moves, great deep ball thrower. There's. There's nothing I don't like.
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Colin Cowherd
And humble reminder, last year he did not start the season at quarterback. Gerard Mayo, the former head coach of the Patriots is like, we're starting our best quarterback and he started the other guy, Colin Drake. May's really freaking good. I mean, I'm not ready to go top five quarterback. You know, I have Jalen hurts cemented at five after the big four. But that sixth spot, Stafford May like, you know, May's got to face some good teams. This jets defense is not great. You want to pick a score here for tonight's game?
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Albert Breer
30 to 13. Patriots.
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Colin Cowherd
I don't want the jets to win obviously for draft status, so I'll go 27 to 9. New England roles in a. In a snoozer. Next up, Colin. We've got more Chiefs Broncos chatter. This is obviously one of the best games of the weekend. And now there's some concern about Bo Nix. He has not been great. I know he's your guy Knicks. He's been up and down. And here's Peyton. Actually, here's Nick's talking about his struggles.
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Fox Sports Radio Host (possibly Albert Breer or co-host)
We make it's entertainment business a lot bigger than what it is. And we forget that everybody's just out here having a good time, having fun, doing the best they can. But for me, it's quite simple, really. I delete all my social media. I don't even have it. So unless somebody says it to my face, I don't really hear it. And nobody's ever bold enough to say it to your face.
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Colin Cowherd
I love that.
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Albert Breer
Yeah, I mean, that's probably smart. You know, it's. I think the thing that's been disturbing the completion percentage. I can live with a. I can live with a lot of these numbers. I can live with 18 touchdowns, eight interceptions. The completion percentage worries me because I, I thought out of college he was a really accurate thrower, and I always thought you gave up a little ceiling with him, but he was a high floor guy. But now the floor is dropped, so I don't get the high ceiling and the floor is dropped. So it's troubling. I. I think he'll play his way out of it. I got to tell you, giving Denver over a field goal at home with that defense, it's. I mean, again, I'm not, I'll tell you right now, I'm not betting this. That defense at home. Bo, Nick's been very good, trailing, and I get the hook. That's a hard game for me to bet against Denver.
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Colin Cowherd
He's got about almost 20 games.
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Albert Breer
I know. I said a week ago. I know I did. I said take Kansas City. But the closer we get to this thing with 90% of the public on Kansas City now, to me it's. Yeah. I mean, when he was at Oregon. Thanks, staff. He completed 77% of his throws. So the one thing we knew is, you know, lot of starts, super accurate, and now he's lost that. So it's like, wow, what's going on?
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah, no Patrick Surtan, obviously, this is a tough one. Colin, there's 20, about 20 games of data if you and I include the playoffs on Knicks as an NFL quarterback and to see defenses kind of bottle him up. Listen, if Hart Casey's been susceptible to the run. Jacksonville ran on him with etn. Yeah, Buffalo ran on him. I need to see Harvey get loose. If, If Harvey's touching 80 yards, 90 yards in the fourth, Denver will be live. But if he's in the 30, 40, 50 range, they're cooked. Final story, Colin. And the staff loves this guy, Jameis Winston. He is starting for the New York Giants. Somehow leapfrogged Russell Wilson. Obviously, the media loves Jameis Winston. Social media loves Jameis Winston, he's a little wacky. He's a little silly. Here he is talking about his expectations for Sunday.
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Fox Sports Radio Host (possibly Albert Breer or co-host)
I want fans to know that I'm going to do my best. You know, obviously, I'm going to have fun, but I'm going to execute. Have a surgical execution and just. And just play ball, man. Like, this is something I've been doing since I've been four years old, and I just get to do it in the greatest city in the world. I'm gonna be saying it with my son. What's the greatest city in the world? Yeah, that's. That's a Hamilton reference.
- [28:26]
Albert Breer
Yeah, he's a little silly. But you know what? He's a nice guy, and his career has been. It's been. You know, not all journeys are similar.
- [28:34]
Fox Sports Radio Host (possibly Albert Breer or co-host)
He's gonna.
- [28:35]
Colin Cowherd
He's gonna transition to media very well.
- [28:37]
Albert Breer
Right.
- [28:37]
Colin Cowherd
He'll. He'll be a smash hit on one of these shows. Sunday show, pre game, post game, whatever it is. You think he's got any chance to beat up on this packers defense on Sunday at home? Darius Slayton. We're waiting to see if he plays. If he does it.
- [28:52]
Albert Breer
Oh, boy.
- [28:53]
Colin Cowherd
Jameis got nothing on the outside.
- [28:55]
Albert Breer
Yeah, I like. I like Green Bay. If I was going to include it, I'd take Green Bay. J. Mac with the news.
- [29:03]
Fox Sports Radio Host (possibly Albert Breer or co-host)
Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by the herd line news.
- [29:07]
Albert Breer
I just made a decision. I made an. Speaking of surgical execution, I just made an executive decision. I'm having a smash burger today. It's a smash burger day. I'm not messing around today. No, I've been. I've been doing good stuff. Red light therapy, sit ups. You know, I've been all that stuff. Red light therapy. I'm going.
- [29:28]
Colin Cowherd
Wait, wait, wait. Say more.
- [29:30]
Albert Breer
No, you know, I just. I've been. I've been healthy long enough. It's. It's not a charade. It's who I am. But today I'm going Smashburger. I. You know, a lot of people are anti red meat, anti beef.
- [29:41]
Colin Cowherd
Ooh.
- [29:42]
Albert Breer
People that I don't enjoy being around.
- [29:44]
Colin Cowherd
I was gonna say, wow, you like hanging around vegans. Not that there's anything wrong with that.
- [29:49]
Albert Breer
There's nothing wrong with that. It's just. I'm. I'm going. I made an executive decision. I'm gonna go a little sideways today.
- [29:55]
Colin Cowherd
What are we doing? Medium. Medium rare.
- [29:58]
Albert Breer
You know what? You. You bring it on. I'll just. I'll devour it. How's that? I'm not going to get picky. Okay. It's the Herd. Be sure to catch live editions of.
- [30:09]
Fox Sports Radio Host (possibly Albert Breer or co-host)
The Herd, weekdays at noon Eastern, 9am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, FS1 and the iHeartRadio app.
- [30:17]
Albert Breer
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Albert Breer
Hey there.
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Kyle McLaughlin
I'm Kyle McLaughlin. You might know me as that guy from Twin Peaks, Sex and the City, or just the Internet's dad. I have a new podcast called what Are We Even Doing? Where I embark on a noble quest to understand the brilliant chaos of youth culture.
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Fox Sports Radio Host (possibly Albert Breer or co-host)
Daddy's looking good.
- [32:03]
Kyle McLaughlin
Each week I invite someone fascinating to join me. Actors, musicians, creatives, highly evolved digital life forms. And we talk about what they love.
- [32:13]
Albert Breer
Sometimes I'll driz a little honey in.
- [32:14]
Fox Sports Radio Host (possibly Albert Breer or co-host)
There too if I'm feeling sexy in the morning.
- [32:16]
Kyle McLaughlin
What keeps them going?
- [32:17]
Colin Cowherd
And you're maybe my biggest competition on social media.
- [32:20]
Albert Breer
Like when a kid says bruh to.
- [32:22]
Kyle McLaughlin
Me and how they're navigating this high speed roller coaster we call reality.
- [32:26]
Albert Breer
In Australia, you're looking out for snakes, spiders and Right. Hey, he's no Trey McDougal.
- [32:32]
Fox Sports Radio Host (possibly Albert Breer or co-host)
Chill.
- [32:32]
Albert Breer
This is like the comments section of my Instagram.
- [32:35]
Kyle McLaughlin
Join me and my delightful guests every Thursday and let's get weird together in a good way. Listen to what are we even doing on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Sad Oligarch Podcast Host
The Rich Russians Falling out of Windows podcast is Back Sad Oligarch Season 2 Since we left you in 2023 after season one, many politically motivated Russian millionaires have continued to die in suspicious circumstances. We dig deeper into these odd deaths which include everything from mushroom poisoning and mysterious heart attacks to window clumsiness and suicide by decapitation. One thing we have found since we started back in 2022 is the information on the suspicious deaths has become much harder to find. Not just that, it seems as if state controlled media in Russia is being utilized to purposely confuse and contradict the reporting that gets put out. As you can probably imagine, season two gets very weird. Listen to Sad Oligarch on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
- [33:49]
Fox Sports Radio Host (possibly Albert Breer or co-host)
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Veterans Advocate or Good Stuff Podcast Guest
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Fox Sports Radio Host (possibly Albert Breer or co-host)
We're talking about resilience, purpose and finding hope through community and connection.
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Veterans Advocate or Good Stuff Podcast Guest
There are blessings in there as well that that will happen in the most unexpected places.
- [34:39]
Fox Sports Radio Host (possibly Albert Breer or co-host)
You have to find the humor in it or I think it'll literally kill you. Listen to the Good Stuff podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
- [34:50]
Colin Cowherd
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- [35:02]
Albert Breer
So earlier today, J. Max always love Austin Reeves and I think he's fine. I think he's in that Derrick White, although Derek White's a much better defensive player and Derek to me is a better three point shooter, but Austin Reeves and Derrick White love to have him on my team as like the number four starter. Then you're a Championship team as a third starter, third best starter. You're a playoff team that could win a series. But J. Mac said, yeah, Austin Reaves, top six domestic player. Okay. So I'm not going to count AD, Jason Tatum or LeBron who are hurt now.
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Colin Cowherd
Halliburton too. You can't count him.
- [35:35]
Albert Breer
Okay, I'm not. So I won't count those four. I would take all four over him. So I'm not going to count those four. Halliburton, LeBron, AD and Jason Tatum. And they're all better than Austin Reeves. So here's the top tier guys that are active domestic that he's absolutely not better than. Anthony Edwards. Cade Cunningham, he's not in the same class. Tyrese Maxey, Steph Curry, Jalen Brunson, Jalen Brown, Devin Booker, that's seven guys active. He not in that class. And he not. He not close to Ant or Cade Cunningham. He's not even close to those guys or Steph Curry for that matter. So here's the second tier guys who every GM in the league would take over him. Donovan Mitchell, Bam Adebayou, who's a very good two way player, Kevin Durant and Carl Anthony Towns. You don't have to love him. He's offensively one of the best domestic bigs we've had in 15 years. He's a great big, unbelievable score. And then third tier again, you'd have to be literally on cough medication to take Austin Reeves over third tier. Evan Mobley, Jalen Williams or Paul Banchero. In fact, I'd put Bang Carroll above Carl Anthony Towns. I'd move towns to the third. So that's. I have 14 active guys who are better and I'm not going to Count Tatum, Halliburton, AD or LeBron.
- [37:01]
Colin Cowherd
I just called a 20 second timeout. So let's rewind the tape. I did say he's top 15, which puts him on the all star team. Then I got so excited in the live moment here on tv, I said Austin Reeves, top six this season. He's top seven in points and assists. Okay. And we could go side by side, obviously, Cade Cunningham, no doubt about it. You take him. But the problem with the discussion, Colin, is all those Americans you named their number one options on their team. Devin Booker is the guy in stink, huh?
- [37:32]
Albert Breer
For a reason.
- [37:33]
Colin Cowherd
Well, I mean, Austin Reeves was holding it down with, with Luca out, putting up 30 and 40 points per game. I, I probably got a little excited. He's probably not.
- [37:43]
Albert Breer
Let me throw, let me throw another guy in that I Didn't count. Who's definitely a tier three guy. Amen Thompson.
- [37:49]
Colin Cowherd
I mean, Thompson's awesome.
- [37:50]
Albert Breer
Every gm, he's probably the best athlete in the league.
- [37:52]
Colin Cowherd
But if Kevin Durant goes down and Shen Gun go down, is Amen Thompson leading the rockets on an 8 and 3 surge? No. Because he can't create the way that Austin Reaves can. And I will point out, and the staff wants me to let you know that you keep busting Austin Reeves chops for getting worked by Ant in the playoffs. He did. He was also playing hurt. He had like Brock Purdy and Joe Burrow a major toe injury and was not 100%. You can look it up. It's well documented. So Reeves was playing a little wounded and Ant went after him.
- [38:21]
Albert Breer
I don't. I always. The way I look at NBA players is I look at you. Are you a one on a championship team? And there's not many of those.
- [38:32]
Colin Cowherd
There's not many at all.
- [38:33]
Albert Breer
No, though that's Steph LeBron, Kobe, Shaq, Magic, Bird. That. That is rarefied air. I mean, we. We don't even think Ant is. Jokic is. I think Wemby will be. I've argued Jason Tatum, I'm not sure about.
- [38:50]
Colin Cowherd
I think he is.
- [38:51]
Albert Breer
Okay. But I'm saying okay, that is a superstar. We know Austin Reeves isn't that. A two is an all star level player that is usually dominant at something. Jalen Brown's a two. Anthony Davis, a dominant defender, is a two. I don't think Austin Reeves is that. Okay, so he doesn't have dominant physical traits. He's not big and strong. He's a great shot. Career. A three is. Can take over games in moments. Now that's your argument. That's Klay Thompson in his prime. That's Draymond Green. You know, catalyst defensive. That's where you can argue Austin Reaves is at. He's in that three spot where he's not a superstar. He's not a dominant physical specimen too. But Izzy Klay Thompson in his prime. Now, Clay was a much better defensive player.
- [39:42]
Colin Cowherd
Different.
- [39:42]
Albert Breer
I'd argue he's a low end. That or a super high end four. Derek White to me is like the highest four in the league.
- [39:51]
Colin Cowherd
So Clay comp is fascinating because he was a catch and shoot guy, remember?
- [39:56]
Albert Breer
But he was an elite, elite defensive player.
- [40:00]
Colin Cowherd
Yes. He was a superstar like all. I don't know if. Can Reeves get to that level? I don't know the answer. He's in his prime and he's next to Luca. So Clay was alongside Steph Curry.
- [40:09]
Albert Breer
Now you're. Are you, you are now agreeing with me? He's not a superstar and nor is he a multiple time all star. He, you could argue he's a really low three, which he's kind of a liability on the defensive end. He's not a super athlete. He's not intimidated. Like I'll give you a player who I think's a three but not a huge score. I think Aaron Gordon for Denver is one of the best threes in the league.
- [40:30]
Colin Cowherd
He's awesome.
- [40:31]
Albert Breer
Unbelievable length, strength, can score, clutch defense. But he's not, he's not one of those guys that everybody. You have to really like basketball and watch him. I think Jalen Williams is arguably the best three in the league for OkC.
- [40:45]
Colin Cowherd
J Dub. Yeah, he's good. Jake, let me ask you. So let's go back to Clay. Clay, forget the championships, just him personally. He made all NBA twice in his career. Third team. Will Austin Reaves be all NBA twice in his NBA career?
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Albert Breer
No. The west is. No. No. No chance. No.
- [41:04]
Colin Cowherd
Interesting.
- [41:06]
Albert Breer
Reeves is 27. Yeah.
- [41:08]
Colin Cowherd
He's not, he's just starting his prime.
- [41:09]
Albert Breer
Yeah. But he's not going to get more athletic. This is what he is for at.
- [41:13]
Colin Cowherd
Least three or four more years. He's going to be a great athlete.
- [41:16]
Albert Breer
Right. He, he, this is what he is. What you're seeing is what he is now.
- [41:19]
Colin Cowherd
You think this is the best he's going to be?
- [41:21]
Albert Breer
Yes, yes. And I also think he's better with J.J. redick than Darvin Ham because J.J. reddick's an offensive player. It's like Rui. Rui is what he is. J.J. redick will make him the best version of Rui, but he's not a great defensive player. He's a little inconsistent. Austin leave can. Reeves can have stinker games, but I mean Austin is either a low end three or a great four. That's a, that's a terrific player. That's. That's Derrick White of the Celtics. Tremendous player. All right.
- [41:51]
Colin Cowherd
Okay. I got excited. I'm not gonna lie. The top six, in hindsight, we have one of the guys on the show. Text me. J. Mac, you've lost your mind, you know, and I. Okay, I got excited. I dressed up as Austin Reeves on the show, man. You could tell I'm a fan. I like the guy. I like underdogs.
- [42:06]
Albert Breer
I, I listen a lot of people like underdogs.
- [42:09]
Colin Cowherd
Yeah. You like front runners. You like the big superstars, number one picks. Those are, those are the guys you.
- [42:15]
Albert Breer
Rock with now an interesting guy. A comp. What's Zach Levine? So now. Yeah. You like him a lot. He's a gunner. Of course you do. So. So my take is. My take is. I. There's an argument. I take Austin Reeves over Zach Levine. I do think Austin is more of a winning player. I also think he initiates contact and gets the line. He's got zero. I mean, you know, undrafted guys, zero ego. That's an interesting. Zach's the much better athlete. Much better athlete and just. Just longer, quicker. But Austin Reeves doesn't need the ball. I mean, Austin's one of those guys that could be the third or fourth scoring option and be content with it. I mean, he already said I don't need a lot of money. So there. There are things about his psychology I do like. He's a team guy. Austin's a team guy.
- [43:08]
Colin Cowherd
Yeah. Historically. Joe Dumars or Austin Reese?
- [43:12]
Albert Breer
Joe Dumars.
- [43:14]
Colin Cowherd
That's Ass. Dumars. Good defender. Reeves a better offensive player.
- [43:19]
Albert Breer
Yeah, Joe Dumars.
- [43:21]
Colin Cowherd
Okay.
- [43:21]
Albert Breer
Yeah, I think it's.
- [43:24]
Colin Cowherd
I think it's close. Reeves might pass him here in a year or two.
- [43:26]
Albert Breer
You ever notice you like all these chuckers? You like all these guys that literally can't even get their feet planted? Falls out.
- [43:33]
Colin Cowherd
Big championship game tonight. You want to. Want me to live stream it for you?
- [43:36]
Albert Breer
No, not. No, I don't. Your best best wishes, though. You can wear your Austin headband gun show. All right, we're done for the day. We. I've had about enough. That's about all. I'm go get my Smash burger. In fact, I'm not even waiting to get home. Got a calf downstairs.
- [43:52]
Fox Sports Radio Host (possibly Albert Breer or co-host)
Wow.
- [43:53]
Albert Breer
Go to that cafe. Bang. Gotta live. You know, it's getting cold out here. Never know what's going to happen day to day in life. You just got to go make stuff happen. So I'm getting to the free throw line. Let's just put it that way. I'm initiating offense today with the. With a Smash burger.
- [44:09]
Colin Cowherd
You and Caleb Williams.
- [44:11]
Albert Breer
Hey, don't laugh. You start looking at that. NFC North Bears beat the Vikings this weekend.
- [44:16]
Colin Cowherd
They're a wildcard team.
- [44:18]
Albert Breer
Absolutely. No, I mean, this weekend there's like six games like that.
- [44:22]
Colin Cowherd
Yeah.
- [44:24]
Albert Breer
Jags, Chargers, Denver, Kansas City.
- [44:29]
Fox Sports Radio Host (possibly Albert Breer or co-host)
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Albert Breer
Hey everybody.
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Fox Sports Radio Host (possibly Albert Breer or co-host)
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Albert Breer
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Albert Breer
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Albert Breer
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Fox Sports Radio Host (possibly Albert Breer or co-host)
I'm hungry.
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Colin Cowherd
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Colin Cowherd
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Albert Breer
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Fox Sports Radio Host (possibly Albert Breer or co-host)
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Colin Cowherd
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Fox Sports Radio Host (possibly Albert Breer or co-host)
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Kyle McLaughlin
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Albert Breer
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Albert Breer
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Fox Sports Radio Host (possibly Albert Breer or co-host)
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Albert Breer
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Fox Sports Radio Host (possibly Albert Breer or co-host)
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Colin Cowherd
From tips for healthy living to the latest medical breakthroughs, WebMD's Health Discovered podcast keeps you up to date on today's most important health issues. Through in depth conversations with experts from across the healthcare community, WebMD reveals how today's health news will impact your life tomorrow.
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Fox Sports Radio Host (possibly Albert Breer or co-host)
It's not that people don't know that exercise is healthy, it's just that people.
- [46:55]
Albert Breer
Don'T know why it's healthy.
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Colin Cowherd
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- [46:58]
Albert Breer
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Colin Cowherd
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