THE HERD - Hour 3 - Chiefs-Chargers game tonight, possible rift between Jalen Hurts & AJ Brown, Bill Belichick banning Patriots scouts, Eric Mangini

Summary

The Herd with Colin Cowherd – Hour 3 (September 5, 2025)

Main Theme:
This hour dives deep into the NFL’s opening weekend, focusing on the upcoming Chiefs-Chargers game, season outlooks for marquee teams and players (Jets, Cowboys, Eagles, Packers), coaching storylines (Jim Harbaugh, Bill Belichick), and heated debates on roster and coaching moves. Guest analyst Eric Mangini unpacks strategies and recent drama, while Colin Cowherd and Jason McIntyre run through bold game predictions with their signature mix of analysis and banter.

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1. Aaron Rodgers’ Jets Season Opener vs. the Steelers

(03:00–05:15)

• Discussion:
  • Colin introduces Eric Mangini to break down Aaron Rodgers facing his former team in the opener.
  • Mangini emphasizes Rodgers’ advantage: experience at MetLife Stadium and deep familiarity with Jets’ defensive personnel.
    • “[Rodgers] has a better understanding of Jets’ defensive personnel than anybody on the Steelers … He should be very comfortable there.” (Eric Mangini, 04:26)
  • Points out the Jets' organizational stability compared to the Steelers' recent transitions, suggesting this should be a favorable situation for Rodgers.

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2. Cowboys’ Strong Opening Performance & Coaching Impact

(05:15–08:06)

• Discussion:
  • Jason asks Mangini if “good losses” exist, referencing Dallas’ narrow defeat.
  • Mangini praises Brian Schottenheimer (Cowboys OC) for composure and poise amid adversity—including playing the Super Bowl champs, a weather delay, and post-trade roster woes.
  • Commends team discipline, citing effective clock management and defensive achievement against Saquon Barkley (held to 3.3 yards per carry, second lowest in a year).
    • “You gotta give Dak a ton of credit. He looked like a legitimate franchise quarterback leader…you have to wake up in Dallas so much more excited about the season than you did prior to the game.” (Eric Mangini, 07:26)
  • Highlights costly game-changing mistakes: CD Lamb drops, Miles Sanders’ fumble, George Pickens’ penalty.

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3. Possible Rift: Jalen Hurts & AJ Brown

(08:06–10:02)

• Discussion:
  • Jason raises concerns over AJ Brown’s minimal involvement (one target) and questions the necessity of star receivers for run-heavy teams.
  • Mangini points to Brown’s history of vocal dissatisfaction about targets but credits Eagles and QB Jalen Hurts for staying disciplined.
    • “I can tell you it is so much better to win boring than to lose an exciting game.” (Eric Mangini, 09:09)
    • Emphasizes Philadelphia’s commitment to team identity over individual appeasement, though wonders if Brown’s patience might wear thin.

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4. Chiefs-Chargers in Brazil & Jim Harbaugh’s Opener Mastery

(14:05–16:30)

• Discussion:
  • Jason queries Mangini on the impact of playing the opener in Brazil and Harbaugh’s chances to upset Kansas City.
  • Mangini highlights Harbaugh’s stellar opening-day record—the second best in NFL history—and his penchant for turning “distractions” into motivators.
    • “I expect this could easily be an upset … I’m excited to see the way they run the football because I really like the young back in Marion Hampton.” (Eric Mangini, 15:18)
  • Predicts the Chargers could surprise with their ground attack.

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5. Bill Belichick Bans Patriots Scouts from UNC Practice

(16:30–17:42)

• Discussion:
  • Jason references reports that Belichick blocked Patriots scouts from UNC practices (post-firing).
  • Mangini calls it “petty” and counterproductive for a supposed NFL-style college program.
    • “We all sign up for [getting fired] when you take the job…To focus on [banning scouts] instead of bigger problems, I don’t think people are going to suffer that type of pettiness very well, especially if you’re losing.” (Eric Mangini, 16:40)

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6. Herdline News and Notable Quarterback Debates

(18:06–24:17)

• Brock Purdy’s Standing:

  • Colin and Jason riff on Brock Purdy, now paid and compared to other “B+” QBs; John Lynch (SF GM) says media doubt motivates Purdy (18:29).

• Jackson Dart with the New York Giants:

  • Giants view rookie QB Jackson Dart as ready to step in after an impressive preseason (20:04).
  • Jason: “He looks very comfortable…That’s worth something—even against vanilla defenses.”

• Anthony Richardson’s Trade Value:

  • Rumors that Richardson’s agent is seeking a trade out of Indy; hosts debate his worth (mid-to-late round picks), his athletic profile, and possible landing spots like Dallas or Pittsburgh (21:24–24:13).
    • Colin: “You don’t think it’s still TBD on Anthony? We haven’t seen enough. How can we know that he’s a backup? He’s so young.” (22:37)

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7. J-Mac’s Tomorrow’s Headlines Today: NFL Predictions

(29:50–40:01)

• Falcons vs. Bucs:

  • Jason bullish on Atlanta, citing improved pass rush, Tampa’s O-line injuries, and overvaluation (30:59).
    • “Atlanta, getting points at home, how could you pass that up?” (Colin, 31:12)

• Jets vs. Steelers:

  • Low-scoring, ugly affair predicted; Jason dislikes the new Steelers offensive personnel and bets against “old man Aaron.” (Jets eking out a win, 32:05)
    • “How does this game…who scores points in this? … I would go over-under one and a half touchdowns.” (Colin, 32:37)

• Cardinals vs. Saints:

  • Picks Arizona to surprise; Saints ravaged by O-line injuries, Rattler seen as the league’s weakest starter (33:36).
    • “Would not be shocked if Arizona stunned folks with a 40 burger here.” (Colin, 33:11)

• 49ers vs. Seahawks:

  • Despite concerns about 49ers aging stars’ injuries, Colin goes with SF due to Brock Purdy’s dominance and Shanahan’s edge over Seattle’s new-look roster (35:17).

• Packers vs. Lions:

  • Both hosts are bullish on Green Bay’s revamped offense and coaching. Packers viewed as NFC contenders, especially after a more aggressive draft/trade philosophy (36:45–38:43).
    • “Are the Packers in the Super Bowl? I’d say, yeah. I think they’ve got a legit shot in the NFC.” (Colin, 38:43)

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8. Memorable Quotes & Moments

• On Winning Boring vs. Losing Flashy:
  • “It is so much better to win boring than to lose an exciting game.”
    —Eric Mangini (09:09)
• On Belichick’s UNC Move:
  • “To have this level of pettiness … I don’t think people are going to suffer that type of pettiness very well, especially if you’re losing.”
    —Eric Mangini (16:40)
• QB Value Hot Takes:
  • “He’s a backup. If I had two fifths [round picks], I’d give up one, otherwise I’d give up a six.”
    —Jason, on Anthony Richardson (22:12)
• On Packers’ Super Bowl Potential:
  • “Are the Packers in the Super Bowl? … I’d say, yeah.”
    —Colin (38:43)

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9. Tone & Style Highlights

• Colin brings assertive, occasionally sardonic energy with big-picture context.
• Jason plays the analytics-minded contrarian and serves up “Tomorrow’s Headlines Today” with humor and historical nuggets.
• Eric Mangini is measured, coaching-focused, and occasionally wry, always emphasizing process and locker-room psychology.

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10. Timestamps for Key Segments

• Aaron Rodgers Opener: 03:00–05:15
• Cowboys Loss Takeaways: 05:15–08:06
• Hurts-Brown Rift/Eagles Offense: 08:06–10:02
• Harbaugh/Chargers Preview: 14:05–16:30
• Belichick Scouting Ban: 16:30–17:42
• QB News and Debates: 18:06–24:17
• NFL Game Predictions: 29:50–40:01

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For listeners who missed the episode:
This hour was a rapid-fire, insight-rich conversation about week one’s NFL intrigue—mixing strategic analysis, front office gossip, and a flurry of zingers and bold game predictions. Whether you’re debating the wisdom of a star receiver trade, pondering the impact of coaching mindsets, or looking for sharp betting angles, this episode delivers.

Transcript

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[Eric Mangini]

Well, it should be really good. He actually has more experience at MetLife than he does playing in Pittsburgh, so he should be very comfortable there. The last time he played there against the Dolphins at the end of last season, he threw four touchdowns and one pick and had one of his best games as a Jet. The other thing is he actually has a better understanding of jets defensive personnel than anybody on the Steelers. He spent all that time with him, so he's got the understanding of the personnel, he's comfortable playing the stadium. His last game there was pretty good. He's got the most tenured head coach in an organization that, that has, you know, absolute function as opposed to dysfunction against a rookie head coach. It should, it should line up as well as it could line up for him in an opener.

[Jason McIntyre]

Now I Know, as a coach, you, you, you know, you could say there's no good losses, but I came out of the Dallas loss last night. I mean, Schottenheimer was buttoned up. They had very few penalties. Their clock management end of the first half was strong. More yards per play. Dak moved. I worried about Dak's movement. I thought he moved very well. I came out of that game. And if you'd never seen those two teams play, your takeaway was Dallas matches up well. What did you make of it?

[Eric Mangini]

Yeah. So remember when we talked when Brian got the job and I said I felt that Brian Schottenheimer was as deserving as any of these other. Yeah. Guys who are getting their first time opportunity. And you saw that last night. He was, he was very poised. He was very comfortable. You're playing the defending super bowl champions the night that they open or they drop the banner and the opening of the NFL season on the road. It is a night game. You have the weather delay. You've got a quarterback that's coming back from an injury. You've got to call the game as well. They've just traded away arguably your best defensive player or you're one of your best players. So you've got all that turmoil. And then they come out and you look at these two teams and you think that Brian had been coaching for a long time. I thought, I thought the operation at the end of the first half was a really good indicator of how disciplined this team is. And then take a look at what they did about Saquon. And Jerry talked about stopping the run. Saquon Barkley averaged 3.3 yards of carry. That's his second lowest average in the last year. The only time he was held to a lower average was against Cleveland last year in October. I think it was like October 14th, where he averaged 2.4 yards of carry. So they talked about stopping the run. They held Saquon Barkley to his second lowest average. That's. That's impressive in itself. And you got to give Matt Eberfluss a lot of credit for that as well. And think of the opportunities they had to win the game. So we talked about the cd Lamb drops.

[Jason McIntyre]

There's multiple.

[Eric Mangini]

There's three huge ones. What about Miles Sanders fumble? Yeah, that's huge. What about George Pickens penalty on the 11 yard line? That's huge.

[Jason McIntyre]

Huge.

[Eric Mangini]

So that you've got. You've got these gigantic plays that change the nature of the game. But if I'm a Dallas Cowboys fan, I'm really excited if they can play like this, they're going to be in the mix for the playoffs. Without a doubt, they should be in the mix. And you got to give Dak a ton of credit. He looked, he looked like a guy that deserves $60 million. No, he looked like a legitimate franchise quarterback leader. And you have to wake up in Dallas so much more excited about the season than he did prior to the game.

[Jason McIntyre]

I'm glad you mentioned the Pickens penalty because that forced him back. They could have scored on the next play. If that doesn't happen, they had mom momentum. It was a really bad penalty. A.J. brown, one target. And I, you know, I've. You and I have joked about this before, probably off air. I think certain things in life are luxuries, like a watch, a great watch. I got my phone. A nice watch is a luxury. If you can afford it, buy it. I tend to think wide receivers, you know, are a little bit more of a luxury than a necessity. With a team with a great run game, I. When you target him one time, Eric, that's something, isn't it? Something?

[Eric Mangini]

Well, here's, here's where I give the Philadelphia Eagles a lot of credit. Now here's why I give Jalen Hurts a lot of credit. He's noisy and he's going to make noisy this season. He was noisy last season with the book on the sideline and everybody dressed that up as, oh, this is something that he does. No, it wasn't. It was a very clear message last season that he was unhappy with the amount of targets he was getting and that's going to happen again this season. But I give them credit for staying true to what they said. We're not going to change our identity to accommodate any one individual. And I can tell you it is so much better to win boring than to lose an exciting game. It is so much better. And this is a formula that made Philadelphia so successful last season and will continue to make him successful. Will that make A.J. brown happy? No. But this isn't a one man band and it's not the A.J. brown show. And there's going to be a lot of opportunities for him to be the hero. Now, whether or not he can be patient enough for those opportunities, I don't know. Would you want to get him more in the mix? Yes. And I think you can do a good job at the beginning of a game to script a few plays to get the ball in his hands, to maybe take some of the edge off the rest of the game. If this is the way you're going to play it.

[Colin Cowherd]

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[Eric Mangini]

Well, I actually looked it up. So Jim has the second best opening day record of any coach in NFL history. I think the other guy, I can't remember if it's Potsy Clark. It was. It was from, like, 1931. The Portsmouth Spartans and also the Detroit Lions. He's second to him, so he's very good in these games. I think the fact that they're playing in Brazil, that won't bother Jim at all. He's great at embracing those things. So if you're going to the east coast, he's great at embracing that. If you're going to Brazil, he's great at embracing that. Where sometimes that can be a distraction, Guys can be frustrated by it. Where he'll celebrate that. Look at this incredible opportunity we have, and it gets to be very contagious. The first game of the season is so hard to predict because all the things that have gone on in training camp that nobody's seen. But I would say I expect this could easily be an upset if you consider it an upset by the Chargers in this game. And I'm excited to see the way that they run the football because I really like the young back in Marion Hampton. I think he's going to be excellent.

[Jason McIntyre]

Finally, Bill Belichick, a story that he will not let Patriot scouts into UNC practice. I don't know. What do you make of that?

[Eric Mangini]

Why? Like, why do it? So now I'm a parent, and I sent my son to UNC and there was a talk about how this is the 33rd team, you know, the 33rd NFL team, and it's going to be run like an NFL program. And that'll help your son get to the NFL. Well, part of that is getting your son seen by scouts. So to have this level of pettiness. What, you're frustrated that you got fired by the Patriots? Guess what? Everybody gets fired at some point, you know, except for a few guys here and there. And then you could have retired if you wanted to. You decided not to. You got fired. That's. We all sign up for that when you take the job. So. So you're going to be mad about that. I think that there's so many more problems there from a playing perspective based off of how they played in their Opener. To focus on than to focus on whether or not you allow scouts. And I don't think people are going to suffer that type of pettiness very well, especially if you're losing.

[Jason McIntyre]

Yeah, he'll be on First Things first, after us. He'll try to corral Nick Wright, who's. I'm not. I'm sure today as the Chiefs open up, he'll need some coaching. I'll just leave it at that. Good luck with that.

[Eric Mangini]

All right, I think. Thank you, Colin. Have a great weekend.

[Jason McIntyre]

All right, Eric Mangini, JMac, with the news.

[Colin Cowherd]

No, no, no.

[Jason McIntyre]

Turn on the news.

[Colin Cowherd]

This is the Herdline news. All right, Colin, let's start with Brock Purdy.

[Jason McIntyre]

You. We.

[Colin Cowherd]

You know, we love a good Brock Purdy discussion, specifically his place among the NFL's top quarterbacks. Purdy obviously got paid this offseason, and John lynch believes that the doubt in the media. No, he didn't mention you. But he believes the doubt in the media fuels Brock Purdy.

[Jason McIntyre]

We've got a ton of belief in him, and he's earned that belief. You know, everyone knows his story. Last player chosen in the draft, and he's just chipped away and kind of taken down every barrier in his way. And, you know, he continues to do that on the field. And I think Brock kind of gets a thrill out of when people doubt him. Yeah. See, he can handle it. I. I appreciate that. I've come around. He's a good B plus quarterback.

[Colin Cowherd]

He's. Excuse me.

[Jason McIntyre]

Dak Prescott's a good B plus quarterback. Brock P. Is a good B plus quarterback. Kirk Cousins was a good B plus quarterback.

[Colin Cowherd]

Just wanted some clarity there. Okay, listen. Probably the most interesting practice words today will be Christian McCaffrey, because if he's not there, Brock Purdy has a very tall order going into Seattle and keeping his perfect record intact.

[Jason McIntyre]

Oh, what is it?

[Colin Cowherd]

3 0.

[Jason McIntyre]

Okay.

[Colin Cowherd]

At Lumen Field.

[Jason McIntyre]

Not 8. 0, not 11. 0.

[Colin Cowherd]

He's only played there three times, but they have yet to beat him.

[Jason McIntyre]

Geno Smith.

[Colin Cowherd]

Now, we're gonna be. We're gonna be talking about this game shortly in my picks. I got some interesting numbers for you, but I'm just telling you I'm refreshing 49ers beat reporters because today is where guys are practicing like the Saints just ruled somebody out. We'll talk about that shortly.

[Jason McIntyre]

Did you notice I stayed away from that game? I wanted to take Arizona. I think you're on to something.

[Colin Cowherd]

You love to miss layups. You're like me. I don't. I pass on layups because I want to shoot threes. You missed a layup with Arizona and the Saints. We'll talk about it later. All right, next up here is the. Oh, the New York Giants. Colin Jackson. Dart had a hell of a good preseason.

[Jason McIntyre]

Yes.

[Colin Cowherd]

So good that there is some chatter that maybe he'll get to play sooner than later. Well, according to Ian Rapa support, New York believes that even though Dart isn't the starter, he's prepared to take over and be ready whenever necessary. Adding everything they wanted to see from him in the preseason, they saw now Dart, it shocked the world. Remember draft night? He was taken ahead of Shador and.

[Jason McIntyre]

It was like, what? I didn't. I didn't love the pick. I thought they reached a little.

[Colin Cowherd]

Well, everything from Daybolt, they love this guy.

[Jason McIntyre]

You know, I lost a steak dinner to a GM on that.

[Colin Cowherd]

Oh, you bet that Shador would.

[Jason McIntyre]

No, no, no, I said. I said Jackson Dart is. Is. Is. Kyle McCord is the name. He's already been cut. He's gonna easily. Whatever.

[Colin Cowherd]

Laying your car tonight. Listen, I don't know about Dart. We'll see. I didn't see the competition. He was playing in the lane kick.

[Jason McIntyre]

I will say this, he looks very comfortable. Comfortable that. And that's. That's worth. I know it's preseason. Well, he's going against vanilla defenses. Well, he's throwing to fourth stringers. It works both ways. He looked very, very comfortable.

[Colin Cowherd]

So the big difference between him and Chador that I saw is he's sitting in the pocket processing and reacting. He's not running for his life trying to make plays. That ain't the way to go. Dart, he did deliver in the preseason. These highlights make him look like a starter man. We'll see. I think he plays a lot this season.

[Jason McIntyre]

They were bad at quarterback last year, so add Abdul Carter.

[Colin Cowherd]

The schedule is just impossible or they would be.

[Jason McIntyre]

I'm not looking about wins. I'm looking. Are they competitive? Because I still think they have the right coach.

[Colin Cowherd]

Well, if they're not competitive, Dable's going to get fired. Yeah, if they're competitive, he sticks around. Final story column. Let's contrast Jackson Dart with this Anthony Richardson. Now, this is just a report, okay? Anthony Richardson, agent, recently met with GM Chris Ballard and broached the idea of a possible trade. AKA hey man, y' all like Daniel Jones. Get my guy out of here. I don't know what Anthony Richardson's value would be on the open market. Like you taking a flyer on him. What are you giving up for Anthony.

[Jason McIntyre]

I don't think he's a franchise quarterback. I think he's give up a 5th.

[Colin Cowherd]

Round pick for him.

[Jason McIntyre]

He's a backup. If I had two fifths, I'd give up one, otherwise I'd give up a six.

[Colin Cowherd]

This guy went top five, I think top five in the draft. I know.

[Jason McIntyre]

Well, recently I would give up, I would give up a six round pick.

[Colin Cowherd]

And Chris Ballard wants to again.

[Jason McIntyre]

If I have multiple six and sevens, would I give up a six and a seven as a backup? He's a, he's a nice kid. He's got a great big body, big frame. He's worth something.

[Colin Cowherd]

You don't think it's still TBD on, on Anthony? We haven't seen enough. How can we know that he's a backup? He's so young. I'll just say this. Jerry Jones made a bad deal for Trey Lance. Remember that?

[Jason McIntyre]

Trey Lance? Yep.

[Colin Cowherd]

Why wouldn't you, if you're the Colts, call Jerry and be like, hey Jerry. Well, we got big strapping Anthony Richardson here for you. He could throw the ball out of the stadium.

[Jason McIntyre]

I watched Dak last night. I may sign him to an extension.

[Colin Cowherd]

Oh, wait, who's got Joe Milton? Do the Cowboys have Joe Milton?

[Jason McIntyre]

Yeah.

[Colin Cowherd]

Oh, never mind. They already have one guy with a cat in arm. But I don't know, I think if I, if I'm a smart coach, I would just take a flyer on Anthony Richard.

[Jason McIntyre]

Fifth round picks are, you know, I don't even know what the odds are. 30% they make the league. I mean, I don't know. I would if I didn't have. If like, like Miami for the last several years to a bad old line, no backup. I mean, he's certainly capable. I mean, if nothing else, if you had like Jared Goff and you have kind of a, a pocket quarterback, you can bring him in for red zone plays.

[Colin Cowherd]

That's interesting.

[Jason McIntyre]

I think he's an interesting. I mean that's what the Seahawks did when they drafted the kid. That'll back up Dalton Darnold out of Alabama.

[Colin Cowherd]

Oh, Jaylen Melrose.

[Jason McIntyre]

Yeah, yeah. Like they're, they're gonna use Jalen Melroe in some series. If you get into situations where maybe it's short yardage. I don't know if they'll use him a lot, but he is an insane athlete.

[Colin Cowherd]

I forgot this one. How about this? Pittsburgh Steelers have a fossil at quarterback. Why wouldn't you kick the tires on?

[Jason McIntyre]

I don't think that's a bad idea. I don't think it's a bad idea at all. You're going to learn from somebody. Aaron's always been pretty good about that, helping young quarterbacks in the room.

[Colin Cowherd]

A lot of good ideas coming off this side of the set.

[Jason McIntyre]

J Mac with with well, that's the news.

[Colin Cowherd]

And thanks for stopping by the herd lie news.

[Jason McIntyre]

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[Colin Cowherd]

It's a little rowdy there and I can't believe you're announcing it on live television. Goodness gracious.

[Jason McIntyre]

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[Colin Cowherd]

So last year I watched you plant your flag with the Broncos and there was one other team you called Washington. Washington. Well, that team for me this year is going to be the Atlanta Falcons. The headline for Falcons bucks will be Kyle Me crazy, but Pitts might be good. This is finally the year for Kyle Pitts. By the way, his best two games last year for Kyle Pitts came against Tampa. He had in the two games 13 catches, Bucks 79, two touchdowns. He was outstanding. But Colin, I don't know how close you paid attention to this. Tristan Wurfs, the great left tackle, he's not playing. He's hurt. He's going to miss some time. And I looked into their backup gentleman by the name of Charlie Heck. He's in some trouble. He struggled throughout training camp. And what did Atlanta do this offseason? They upgraded big time on the edge. They drafted the kid Walker from Georgia, who's awesome. They drafted Pierce from Tennessee. And then they went and got Leonard Floyd. They realized they couldn't get to the quarterback. They're all in. They were going to be coming heavy after Baker Mayfield. Colin, there are some numbers that I've talked about with you that show Atlanta, you know, they were unlucky last year. Kirk Cousins led the NFL with four interceptions in the final two minutes of games. That's unlucky.

[Jason McIntyre]

He's.

[Colin Cowherd]

He's the backup. Now enter Michael Penix, who I like a lot. And oh, by the way, last year The Bucs won 10 games. Would you believe four of them came against backup quarterbacks? They beat Rattler twice.

[Jason McIntyre]

That's right.

[Colin Cowherd]

Drew Locke, Aiden o', Connell, like, come on, man. I think the Bucks are a little overvalued. I like the Falcons here. I mean, getting points at home, how could you pass that up?

[Jason McIntyre]

And that leads us into the Jets. Tomorrow's headlines today, Steelers at the Jets. New York getting points at home.

[Colin Cowherd]

Home dog's gonna be barking this weekend. The headline for my New York football Jets will be steel curtains drawn tight. Jet streak past old man Aaron's window. So listen, this is just a bet. Against Aaron Rodgers, I'm out on him now. I know some of it is sour grapes because he kind of got injured with the jets and then was quite awful last year. But Colin, if you look at the tendencies of Aaron Glenn who's taken over as head coach as defensive coordinator in Detroit, they blitz at the second highest rate in the league last year.

[Jason McIntyre]

And then by the way, Steelers have a new left tackle.

[Colin Cowherd]

Yes, Lions last year were fourth in the league in pressure rate. Aaron Glenn's DNA. We got to get after the quarterback. That's what they're going to do. Rogers is a statue. He's working with new receivers. I don't love the Pittsburgh blocking scheme. Jalen Warren doesn't really scare me as a running back and I don't think the receivers are top end. Colin, how does this game. How who scores points in this? I would go over under one and a half touchdowns in Steelers jets. This is going to be played. It's going to be ugly.

[Jason McIntyre]

Well my take has always been when you have like the lowest total on the board and you get a field.

[Colin Cowherd]

Goal, I think you got it.

[Jason McIntyre]

And you if you have a competent quarterback. Justin Fields is more than competent. I'll take the point.

[Colin Cowherd]

I mean Fields is not well we. Let's be real. He's not going to be throwing 30 passes. No, no way.

[Jason McIntyre]

Throw 22 and moves. I'm good.

[Colin Cowherd]

Yeah, that. That's probably the game plan. So I like the jets either winning a close one or. Or winning like you know, 12, 6. I mean I think the jets could.

[Jason McIntyre]

Pull it off tomorrow's headlines today. This game. I knew it. Cardinals at the Saints.

[Colin Cowherd]

So I'm in a winds pool with some guys from here at Fox and I drafted not only the Falcons but this next team, the Arizona Cardinals. The headline for Cardinals Saints Saints will be Kyler of Duty QB puts up Video game numbers. Honestly would not be shocked if Arizona stunned folks with a 40 burger here. Remember last year in the opener they went into Buffalo led for much of that game.

[Jason McIntyre]

Yeah.

[Colin Cowherd]

Oh, what's going on here? Did cover the spread. I know you care deeply about that. A couple things to note. The New Orleans Saints just announced Trevor Penning who was a bit of a busted tackle that kicked him inside to guard. He's out. So the Saints are now starting a backup left guard and a rookie left tackle, the kid Banks. I think this could be a game where sweat who just came over from Philly, he's their new edge rusher. He could eat. And Colin, if You ranked all 32 starting quarterbacks this week. Who do you think is dead last?

[Jason McIntyre]

Rattler.

[Colin Cowherd]

I don't want to be harsh, but he was bad last year. We saw nothing from him and he beats out their rookie quarterback. So I think Kyler Murray eats. I don't think the Saints could keep up. It's gonna be a beat down. So I'm on the Cardinals here every which way.

[Jason McIntyre]

When you look at the Cardinals offensive personnel, do they have dudes they got.

[Colin Cowherd]

How about this? Look, their skill, position players are better than the Niners. I'm sorry. And The Niners have McCaffrey and Kittle. I mean you're looking at Harrison, McBride, James Connor. Those are really top end.

[Jason McIntyre]

Kyler is.

[Colin Cowherd]

And Kyler is making plays. Yeah, I like Arizona a lot now it gets ugly.

[Jason McIntyre]

Tomorrow's headlines today, the banged up old brittle Niners at the young and vibrant Seahawks.

[Colin Cowherd]

So by the way, you're on this. You know I bat. Remember when I bashed your Seattle take? Cause you had them winning the division like a month ago and I was like that's crazy. But you start to dig into their defense. They're really good and McDonald knows his stuff. He's excellent. So I think they're going to be frisky. However, in week one, I got a ride with my guy. The headlines for Niner Seahawks will be. I love it when a Shanna plan comes together. Niners still the A team. I know you watched the A team.

[Eric Mangini]

Back in the day.

[Jason McIntyre]

Of course I did. A fool.

[Colin Cowherd]

Yeah. Mr. T. Well done. Brock Purdy. As I said earlier, three and oh at Lumen Field. Shanahan has won six of seven from the Seahawks. Kind of owns them. Colin, listen, but I'm not a huge Darnold guy. Remember like he was really good last year. They won 14 games.

[Jason McIntyre]

Yeah.

[Colin Cowherd]

He had Kevin O' Connell, who you believe is an elite coach and Justin Jefferson, who's the best or second best receiver in the league. He goes to Seattle. He's got like Jackson, Smith, Najigba. I like him, but that's a big drop off from Justin Jefferson. Robert Salah, he knows defense. He's going to be motivated after that disaster with my Jets. I'm just praying McCaffrey plays. I'll just leave it at that. And I think the Niners get.

[Jason McIntyre]

I think the nine. I've said this. I like a lot about the Niners, but I feel like Bosa gets dinged up, Christian gets dinged up.

[Colin Cowherd]

Yeah.

[Jason McIntyre]

Trent gets dinged up. That's my thing. I can. Two things are true. I like the Niners, they got some old guys and they are very dependent on like left tackle, star back Kittle. You know, Fred Warner gets dinged up. So. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Like, I mean, that defense is Warner and Bosa.

[Colin Cowherd]

So Seattle has a new offensive coordinator, Clint Kubiak. They got a new quarterback in Sam Darnold. A lot of newness on that team. New wide receiving group. I don't know that it gels immediately. Give me the Niners.

[Jason McIntyre]

Finally, tomorrow's headlines. Today, Lambo. You know I live by Lambeau now. Lions at the Packers. Stone's throw away from Del Zin.

[Colin Cowherd]

You and Michael Parson gonna be hanging out soon. So packers lines. We've talked about it all week. We both like the same side here. The headline, four Packers Lions will B Love Island. Green Bay enters golden years. I'm bullish on the Packers. Look at that. A heart football love Island. Our graphics team is strong. I'm on the packers here. I'm just down a little bit on the Detroit Lions and everything about the packers looks great. It sounds like Micah's going to play probably on a pitch count, maybe he gets 30 snaps. But I don't know how much they need him because this is an offense for Green Bay that should click. Remember Love and company in the opener last year in Brazil, they almost beat Green Bay. Love gets hurt at the end. It kind of derailed things. But a healthy love, Matthew Golden. Keep an eye on him like the ground game. I think LaFleur has a coaching edge over your boy Dan Campbell. So I will go packers here somewhat comfortably in a revenge spot because they got swept.

[Jason McIntyre]

You know what I noticed when Texas and Ohio State played? How much they miss Matthew Golden.

[Colin Cowherd]

Oh, yeah.

[Jason McIntyre]

Those Texas receivers did not separate. And last year all I kept thinking was, man, Texas receivers are always open because you had to double him, right? Yeah. So that kid you take, I mean, think how good Texas recruits. You take one receiver out of the receiving core and they look totally pedestrian. So, I mean, Green Bay didn't need another weapon. Running back, tight ends. Why did they draft him? That's. I think Green Bay looked and said this guy is the seventh or eighth best player in the draft.

[Colin Cowherd]

So when we look back at the packers, if they get to the Super Bowl. Colin, just remember two things. They don't draft wide receivers in the first round. Remember Aaron Rodgers complained about that. They went and got golden change their tendency. They don't make big splashy trades. Giving up for. They did it for Micah Parsons. And I just wonder if maybe the new regime is like, we're not going to do things the old way. We're going to change tendency a little. Let's go all in. And I feel like, if you ask me today, are the packers in the Super Bowl? I'd say, yeah. I think they've got a legit shot in the nfc.

[Jason McIntyre]

You know, the NFC executives. Mike Sando does a great job at the other place did an anonymous poll among NFC execs and they ranked the teams. And you and I were both surprised it was Philly one and Green Bay two. Because we, I think we both look at. Green Bay is still young, but, you know, they draft so well. They have two tight ends I love.

[Colin Cowherd]

They have Tucker Craft is one.

[Jason McIntyre]

Yeah. And the other guys from Oregon stays at Musgrave. Nice player they have. Really? Really. And. And they're back. Josh Jacobs, a student. So in a. In a sport, they're kind of the opposite of the Steelers. They just do offense right. Sometimes. That's why I defended the mica move. Like, they can't quite get a consistent great path. Pittsburgh does defense right. They draft well on offense and they still can't get the offense right. So, you know, there is a culture within Green Bay between coaching, drafting, and developing. They get offense right.

[Colin Cowherd]

You know, I was listening to one of their beat writers on some podcast, really nerding out. And Halfley, the defensive coordinator, likes to run a lot of stunts. So it's not just going to be Micah coming off the edge. He's going to be coming interior. I mean, there is a world where the packers fans are like, guys, we're going to be like a 1213 win team this year with a healthy unit.

[Jason McIntyre]

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