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THE HERD - Hour 3 - Colin's first NFL Draft, Albert Breer joins The Herd
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the Herd weekdays at noon Eastern, 9am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio FS1 and the iHeartrad. Here we go. Hour 3 Albert Brear in 15 minutes live in Chicago, it is the Herd big trade today. Rams give up a first, a fifth, a sixth and a third next year to get elite corner Trent McDuffie. The big hole as JSN and the Seahawks had their way with that Rams cornerback secondary group and the Chiefs are in a competitive rebuild. Not a traditional rebuild, but they get a first, a fifth, a sixth and Kansas City with two first round picks. I think they have to address right tackle and then probably corner. It's a good offensive tackle draft in the first two rounds and it's a decent corner draft in the first round. So there you go. So now this is not a traditional mock draft. They do this every year. I do one where, you know, I try to guess what teams do, but my take is I don't know nobody does outside of the number one pick this year. Everybody knows that. So I am going to draft based on what I would do as general manager and I think it will look mostly like the first 15 picks. I'm going to go 15 picks. So let's start with the number one pick. That's the easiest one. The Raiders need a quarterback. Fernando Mendoza is easily the best quarterback prospect. Is he Matt Ryan plus Heisman winner 16 and oh to non traditional power, big arm moves well, humble gratitude and you get that rookie quarterback contract for the next four to five years. So that's the easy one. He goes number one. My second pick is a little different than everybody else's mock. I think the jets draft David Bailey the best. Pure edge. He'll walk into the Jets. On one side you'll have Will McDonald on the other it's David Bailey. I hear about Arvell Reese. Arvell Reese projects as an edge rusher. I don't trust the jets to get that right. This guy is a plug play guy. He will be starting the first week. David Bailey from Texas Tech. He went to Stanford then he was on the market. Texas Tech got out the wallet. He is an immediate play. Day one edge rush. Number three Arizona. I think Arizona should call on Fernando Mendoza. But their O line is a wreck. They have a new offensive coach. What offensive coaches like Ben Johnson do solve the offensive line. Francis Maui Noah from Miami. He can play interior or tackle. They may use him at both. The Cardinals had the 26 ranked offensive line. He is solid and run and pass blocking. An offensive coach. They've got receivers and backs and tight ends. They have got to get that O line solved. Whether Jacoby Brissette or rumored Jimmy Garoppolo as the quarterback. Number four Arvell Reese. Now again many have him at two to the Jets. I don't trust the Jets. I do trust Robert Sala to use him in maybe a little bit of a hybrid. Fred Warner, Nick Bosa role I trust. I think he's just too talented to fall. And again he's 64244 Titans only had one player with more than five sacks last year. So I think he's just too talented for Robert Sala to pass on. They've got their quarterback and they've got other needs but I think they go get the Ohio State edge. Number five Giants. This is a good pick for them. They need secondary help. Caleb Downs best safety in the draft. I mean can you know he's pretty good in coverage. You can bring him as you See here on blitzes like Nick Amonwari who went to the Seahawks second round out of South Carolina. He is a tremendous player. John Harbaugh is going to love him. You can play him probably special teams in defense. Day one ranked giants were an atrocious team last year. 31st against the run. This kid didn't even have to perform at the combine. He is that good. Giants who I have projected as winning their division get the number one back end defensive player in the draft. Caleb Downs. Another Buckeye number six. Cleveland Browns. Carnell Tate played at Ohio State. Their receiving cores a mess. Shedeur Sanders probably get and Shadore Sanders capable of throwing the ball down the field. But Jerry Judy is inconsistent. Drop issues, maturity issues. Carnell Tate kind of feels like a can't miss guy to me. I mean I don't think there's many can't miss guys in the draft. I can't believe if not for Cleveland, somebody else. Lot of Buckeyes at the top. I think he walks in. Jerry Judy one side, Carnell Tate on the other. They had an atrocious. I mean their leading receiver last year was a rookie tight end from Bowling Green. Carnell Tate to the Browns. Number seven, best corner in the draft is out of lsu. Mansoor Delane. I think the commanders who have many issues, they were a really bad team. Was Washington against the pass. He excels outside the numbers in man coverage. I mean LSU has always been a cornerback in a wide receiver factory. Great instincts, excellent length. Best corner in the draft for a team Washington that needs it. He goes at seven. Number eight. Tyler Schuck was surprisingly good for the Saints. Rookie quarterback, second round pick. I think they get Jeremiah Love. He's the Jameer Gibbs of this draft, a home run hitter. I mean Alvin camara is now 30 and rushed for under 500 yards. And they were not a good run team. They were near the bottom 28th in the NFL against the run. So Love is a again like David Bailey at number two. He's a plug and play guy. Put him in run game with a second year quarterback. They couldn't run last year. Alvin Kamara's aging. He goes to the Saints at eight. Number nine, the Chiefs who made that Trent McDuffie trade with the Rams today, they have two first rounders. I think the Chiefs go and get Spencer Fano out of Utah. Right tackle. So they've got their left tackle. They don't have a right tackle. He was, I mean Utah has arguably two of the best tackles in the whole draft. They were 25th in rushing, 28th in pressure. So they've got a, they've got a lot of needs right now in Kansas City, but I think number one is protecting Patrick Mahomes and getting that running game going. So if love falls to them, I could see them taking love from Notre Dame. If not, they'll go with a right tackle from Utah. Number 10, Cincinnati. My guess is they'll take a Buckeye. Sonny Styles, who had an unbelievable combine. Trey Hendrickson's out the door. He's. He can play. I mean, Sonny Stiles is one of those guys. He was a combine monster. You know, on any other team, he would have been the best player easily. But on Ohio state, he's the third or fourth best player, you know, 6 5, 2, 4 5, runs a 4, 4, you know, typical Buckeye elite five star level talent. So I think he stays in State. Number 11, dolphins, Reuben Bain, I think drops to Miami. I think they'll have some pressure to go get a guy with short arms historically, but he's just a baller, he's a playmaker. And the Hurricane fan base is going to absolutely love this. Miami doesn't get pressure on the quarterback. They were 25th in the NFL last year in getting pressure on the quarterback. And you know, I don't know how good Ruben Bane is with the arm issue, but I know every time I watched Miami play, he was unblockable, a relentless player. Kind of a Max Crosby engine, kind of a game changer up front. So I think Miami grabs him at number 12, and I think this will be one of the early steals in the draft. The Dallas Cowboys will get Keldrick Falk from Auburn. Great character guy just got. He was like all SEC freshman team. He's been good for years at Auburn. Very good against the run. Character guy in the building. And I think they're sensitive to that in Dallas because I think, you know, Dak Prescott High character guy has always been somebody that Jerry Jones liked. Micah Parsons viewed is a little into Micah. This kid is great. They need an edge rusher. He can defend the run in the pass. He's a grinder. He's a character guy. I think he goes to the Cowboys and they get themselves a little bit of a first round steal. Number 13, Louisiana Rams. I think they go Makai Lemon. Now they've got needs at tackle, but Lemon can solve two issues. Devonte Adams is 33, so he's the heir apparent to Devonte Adams. This kid is unbelievable. If he gets his hand on it, he catches it. You know, there's a lot of these recruits that don't pan out. He has been sensational and over delivered for the Trojans and I think between Devonte Adams age they also want to clean up their punt returning. He's got impeccable hands, almost 100 yards per game for the Trojans. Number 14. I think the Ravens they're going to have to pay Lamar Jackson they get to find some guys on that offense that don't cost much. Kenyon Sadiq from Oregon who just had the fastest 40 time ever for a tight end. He's a little undersized but remember Isaiah likely the Ravens tight end is a free agent. Mark Andrews is getting older and they were top three in the NFL in 12 personnel. They like to use multiple tight ends. The Rams do, the Ravens do. So I think the Oregon tight end who's undersized but a little bit of a bully, he's hard to hard match up for corners and safeties. He goes to the Ravens and number 15, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers they've got several needs edge rusher among them Texas A and M. Cassius Howell, first team all American at Texas A and M. It is a good edge rusher draft. He is a need of which they have, you know, they have a need at corner linebacker edge. They got to rebuild that defense. So there is my first 15 draft J Mac I know I don't buy the jets are moving up to take Ty Simpson even later in the first round. I think Ty Simpson goes to the Steelers later. Any big pushback on this?
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Rob Parker
Okay, I was taking notes throughout. Let's start with Dallas and Falk. I like that. But we did see a report that Jerry was interested in Max Crosby. By pegging Falk here, do you think that means they do not go after Max Crosby?
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Colin Cowherd
Well, I think they got a lot of mouths to feed. Dax Contracts Top of the Market CD Lam Talk of the Market Franchise Tag Pickens Talk of the Market by the way, the calorie cap hit for Kenny Clark and Quinn and Williams is not going backwards. So there's a lot of mouths to feed here and I think it is a good edge draft. I would go in that direction.
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Rob Parker
Okay, so Sonny Styles to the Bengals. He is the toughest guy to project. People are going crazy. They've got what people are calling combine fever, right? So you watch the combine, you see the stats, everybody gets excited. Meanwhile, turn back the clock during the season. Sunny south he was very good. He wasn't like top 15 as a player and you don't take linebackers that high The Bengals need defense. Do you go linebacker?
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Colin Cowherd
Well, I will say this. I have both the Browns and the Bengals drafting kids that played their college football in state.
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Albert Breer
Ah.
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Colin Cowherd
I could see the Bengals saying, he's a Buckeye. He's Dolphins. I could see Cincinnati doing that. Plus, when you lose Trey Hendrickson, you know, your best athlete on defense, I think Styles is a looks the part. You know, all American in the hotel lobby. Guy who just keeps getting better, crushed it at the combine. I mean, combine still has some value. So I could. I see Cincinnati and Carnell Tate similarly. There's not a lot of can't miss guy. I can't see Carnell Tate not working in the NFL. And I think Cleveland's receiving core. Jerry Judy, one good rookie tight end and not much else. I think they'll give Shador a good teammate.
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Rob Parker
Okay, so two more real quick. So actually three. So Sadiq to the Ravens. Ravens are moving off Isaiah likely. They've still got Mark Andrews. Lot of needs on defense.
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Colin Cowherd
Absolutely.
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Rob Parker
And Jesse Minter, new head coach, defensive guy. And you have them going tight end.
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Colin Cowherd
I think they have several needs. And I think they like the back end of their defense. I think they kind of like their pass rush. But let's be honest, as Lamar last year did not have the same electricity.
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Rob Parker
Yeah.
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Colin Cowherd
And it's like, okay, we need more Ze flowers, Sadiq, Mark Andrews. I think you got to give. I don't think Lamar, from what I could tell, last year didn't look like the old Lamar. He's becoming more of a pocket threat on consistent basis than a running threat.
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Rob Parker
Okay. And then Rams. So they've only had one draft pick. They've used in, like, the last Jared 10, 15. Jared Verse, who was a superstar, can't miss. Would you put Lemon in that kind of category? I mean, like, so that's why that Rams are a tough one.
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Colin Cowherd
Puka gets dinged up a lot. That's indisputable. He's great, but gets dinged up. Adams was hurt last year as well. Now, that's why some suspect they went into so much 12 personnel because Puka was dinged up. Cooper, when he got old. He's now Seahawk. He got dinged up. They have struggled, you know, keeping the same wide receiver rotation. Not running back, not tight end. And he also solves the punt returning need. That. That was a. That's a big problem for them is special teams. So he kind of solves two problems.
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Rob Parker
And we'll wrap up with Jets David Bailey over Reese. I was looking into Aaron Glenn his years in Detroit. His big thing in Detroit, which made him famous was we're going to go cover zero blitz. We're mixing up the blitzes. Confusing. Bailey's more of just like a traditional edge rusher.
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Colin Cowherd
Yes.
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Rob Parker
Reese is that hybrid. I can play linebacker. I'm going to delay my blitz. Here I come. You don't know where I'm coming from. So that's the only reason I give.
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Colin Cowherd
I think Reese is probably who they draft. It's not. If I was gm who I would draft because I don't trust Aaron Glenn to figure out the Rubik's Cube of Arvell Reese. Whereas Bailey comes in day one edge rusher. You've got your edge guys set for the next five years.
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Rob Parker
Turn him loose.
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Rick Pitino
Yeah.
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Rob Parker
So overall, listen, this is not bad. We got, we got. What are we, two months out of the draft? Something like that. Maybe eight weeks, seven weeks.
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Colin Cowherd
I love mock drafts. I don't know. A little bit of a sickness. Albert Breer's around the corning the corner. Thoughts on the Chiefs Rams deal this morning. Max Crosby to the Bears Cowboys next, the Herd. Be sure to catch live editions of the Herd, weekdays at noon Eastern, 9am Pacific. Hey, it's Rob Parker and Kelvin Washington
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Colin Cowherd
Monday morning Quarterback Cover the NFL for over 20 years and we have breaking news from a couple of hours ago, the Rams. It's not surprising what the Rams did less needed said during, you know, the last week. Like hey, we got to upgrade at corner. They were either going to draft it or go get it. And they have never valued corners in terms of drafting, but they went out and acquired Jalen Ramsey and now they acquire Trent Duffy. I think the bigger question because we know why the Rams are doing it. It's the hole in their game. Are the Chiefs basically doing? It's it's, it's a rebuild of the highest order because of Reed and Mahomes. But by getting a first, a fifth, a six and a third and moving off McDuffie does not it signal the Chiefs understand Broncos have a better roster. Chargers may. It's a. It's a little bit of a semi rebuild.
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Albert Breer
I think it's a little bit of an acknowledgment that you can't pay everybody and. Yeah, look like the Rams have a lot of guys who are on rookie deals right now that are integral parts of who they are, right? Jared Verse, Braden Fisk, Kobe Turner, Byron Young, Puka Nakua. You know, you can go up and down that roster. Kyron Williams just came off of a rookie deal. It gives them some more flexibility. The Chiefs are on the other side of that. So, you know, they've drafted and developed pretty well the last few years.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah.
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Albert Breer
And, you know, so that's meant negotiating new contracts with these guys, and some of them get done, and some of you. Some of them, you don't. So they've gotten Creed Humphrey done, Trey Smith, Nick Bolton, George Carloftis, and, you know, I. I think they recognized last year after Derek Stingley got his deal done, that doing a deal with Trent McDuffie was going to be difficult. So they didn't get it done last year. And I think going into this year, there's a recognition that the market was only going to escalate. So this sort of sets up like the Tyreek Hill deal did, right? Like where the Tyree Kill deal gave him an opportunity to reset a bunch of things in their roster. And they drafted really well in the aftermath of the Tyreek Hill deal. If you remember that. That first draft after trading Tyreek Hill was the Trent McDuffie, George Carloftis draft. Well, now they've got a similar sort of opportunity.
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Colin Cowherd
And.
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Albert Breer
And that'll start with the 9th and 29th picks in the draft.
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Colin Cowherd
Okay, so one gambling outfit says Max Crosby is a Chicago Bear. They're leading candidates. I don't think the Cowboys. I think they go get it in the draft because it's a good edge draft to replace Micah, and they've got their interior D lineman. They need a corner, and they need the Cowboys doing an edge rusher. They're paying Dak and CD Lamb and George Pickens, and now the salary cap hit for Kenny Clark and Quinn and Williams. I think. I don't think it's going to work with Max. Max to the Bears, though. They will have to draft the center because of Drew Dahlman's retirement at 27. But does Max to the Bears make sense to you?
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Albert Breer
Yeah, it does, you know, and I think that this a quarter of the league, at least, is. Is. Is shown some interest in Max Crosby and, and obviously there are different levels of that. What you're willing to give up to go and get him. Whether or not Max is interested in you is a piece of the equation too. But Chicago will be right there with New England. You know, you mentioned Dallas is a potential one. Tampa, you know, has had an interest. Seattle, I believe, is backed off a little bit, but there are a lot of teams that are, that are in the mix for, for Max Crosby. And, you know, I think Chicago, if you look at where they're at, I think you're going to see some moving parts on their roster and they're going to do some things creatively. DJ Moore, I think for the right price is available in trade. Tremaine Edmonds is available in trade. So you see some guys going off the roster. Does that clear the way for you to bring some new guys onto the roster? They've sniffed around Tyler Linderbaum, which would be a really high end, you know, acquisition at center moving off of Drew Dahlman. Obviously they couldn't control that one. And so, you know, I think, you know, Ryan Poles and his group and Ben Johnson are going to think creatively here and the edge opposite Montez sweat has been a problem for them. They haven't been able to get it solved and obviously Max would solve it in a very big way.
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Colin Cowherd
Okay. You know, the quarterback market is interesting. I, I've said before I would take an old Aaron Rodgers, an inexpensive Mac Jones, Ty Simpson and Malik Willis over Kyler Murray. Does Kyler Murray have any market at all?
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Albert Breer
He does. And one of the things that he has going for him, Colin, like, quite honestly is his price, is that he can come in and play for you on the minimum. And this is one of the reasons why I think he wanted to be cut, you know, is because when you get cut like this and you have that much guaranteed money and nobody's going to pay you above your guarantee, well, then you could just go play for the minimum wherever and stick your old team with the bill. And so this allows for Kyler Murray to make this a pure football decision. And he's also going to have a good idea of, you know, who has interest in him, you know, separate from the financials. And so, you know, would Minnesota have an interest in him? You know, that's, you know, obviously I think the most attractive, you know, landing spot for a quarterback with the jets. Have an interest in him where the Dolphins have an interest in him. You know, I think the financial logistics of this make him a really interesting guy. To look at. And, you know, I could just tell you this. The Vikings really did do a lot of work over the last few months to investigate different guys who could be reclamation projects. We saw work for them a couple of years ago with Sam Darnold. It's worked with Baker Mayfield, it's worked with Geno Smith. This worked with Daniel Jones. And so they've really, you know, taken a hard look at different guys that they could put into a competition with JJ McCarthy that are out of that reclamation project bucket. And so I think there could be a marriage there between Kyler and the Vikings.
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Colin Cowherd
Okay, so I put up. I want everybody to put up my mock draft of my top 15 picks. And. And I guess the surprise here is I put Bailey at number two to the jets because I think Aaron Glenn. It was such a. A bad season that I don't think the people upstairs want to hear Aaron Glenn assure them that, hey, I can take this project, Arvell Reese, and I'll tell you what I'm going to do. I think he's lost all his power in the room. And Bailey's a guy that you can just plug and play as a pure edge rusher. And I think Solo will eventually have the smoke in the room and the leverage to go get ARVL Reese, who again, could be a little. Fred Warner, can be a little edge rusher, I don't think. I think Aaron Glenn wants Arval Reese. My take is the jets management doesn't trust him to take a project. Where are you on Bailey going second? Not the popular pick, ARV Reese.
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Albert Breer
I think what Bailey is just a little bit more certainty. You know, you don't have to have a plan for David Bailey. He plays a very conventional role, a very conventional position. Put his hand in the ground and have him get after the passer. And I mean, he's, you know, probably out of the box. A guy who's got potential for 10 to 12 sacks. The comparison I heard that was pretty interesting on him was Nick Bonito. Somebody else told me maybe a lighter version of Khalil Mack coil. Mack's so big and strong and stout. He's not quite that, but maybe, you know, like a little bit of the. The pass rusher profile of a Khalil Mack. So, like, there's a lot to like there with David Bailey. What you have with Arvell Reese is a player that, like you said, you have to have a plan for him. But the ceiling is. Is. Is through the roof. And I, Maybe I mixed metaphors there, but the Ceiling is. There is no, you know, I think I like, but I think you look at Reese and you do have to have a plan for him and what we're going to do with him and, and look like, I think, you know, for the jets, that's something to consider. Like, if this is a guy you have to have a plan for and he's still raw as an edge rusher and your job is on the line, does that come into the equation for Aaron Glenn? Right. And if you're the jets organization, do you look at it and say, well, if we draft David Bailey, he's going to be good regardless of the coach, where Reese might be sort of dependent on what the coach's plan is for him. So those are all, you know, sort of interesting things to consider, but they're, they're different players. You know, I think they're both worthy of going up there in the top five. But like you said, David Bailey is a much more conventional, you know, NFL edge rusher, whereas Arvell Reese is somebody who's a little bit more like Micah Parsons, you know, a little bit more like, you know, Jihad Campbell was last year coming out like Jalen Walker was last year coming out, like Abdul Carter was last year coming out. Where you've seen the edge rush stuff, he just hasn't done it on a full time basis. So there's some question how you use it.
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Colin Cowherd
So the Rams go get Trent McDuffie to sort of solve their issue, and they are now number one in the league. Super bowl favorite. They were tied with Seattle. Now they've, they've left Seattle. And I look at Kenneth Walker, the Seahawks, and I could see Denver saying, listen, I like my online, I like my quarterback. I like that play caller. I, you know, Franklin, Cortland, Sutton, I like guys in the perimeter. Kenneth Walker seems to me, I understand why Seattle would move off him. Again, you win a Super bowl, he has been dinged up. But with Harvey there, a one, two punch with Kenneth Walker and Harvey in Denver kind of feels like it makes sense. Where do you think Walker lands?
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Albert Breer
Walker has got a robust market. I think there will be a handful of teams involved. I think Breeze hall being tagged by the jets helps his cause because once you get past those two, you're talking about Travis Etienne who may not be like the same sort of every down guy that Walker and Hall are. And so I, I think, you know, there's, there's going to be competition for his services, and I think you're going to have contenders involved. So Denver, like You said they're one team I've heard would be involved. I know Houston had an interest. Obviously, they're off that market now after the trade for David Montgomery. And the Kansas City Chiefs are interesting here. I think I mentioned this to you last week from the combine.
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Colin Cowherd
You did.
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Albert Breer
Trent McDuffie clears just under $14 million in cash and $14 million in cap space for the Chiefs. That's about what I think Kenneth Walker is going to cost.
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Colin Cowherd
Interesting.
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Albert Breer
So there's some interesting sliding doors there. And I just think that the Chiefs are one to watch. The Broncos are obvious. I think that you're. You're right on there. Like what they were getting from J.K. dobbins, you know, early in the year before he got hurt. You know, you had the. You had the durability concern with Dobbins. You bring Walker in, you have less of that concern, and you're probably getting more of what Dobbins gave you, and you're helping Bo Nicks out. So I think both those teams, you know, both those teams, the. The. The Broncos and the Chiefs will be involved. And I would say that this. This. The Seahawks will be monitoring this, too. Like, I don't think the Seahawks are completely out of it either.
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Colin Cowherd
It would be understandable when you do your mock draft if you just took mine and put your name on it, because it does really. It's very. A lot of Buckeyes, but Sony's a
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Albert Breer
little low there, isn't he, Sunny? A little low low. After that big, big, big couple days in Indy.
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Colin Cowherd
We'll see. Good seeing you, Albert.
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Albert Breer
All right, thanks, Colin.
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Colin Cowherd
I'm sending this, by the way, to my general manager friends who are already telling me I've got one guy way too high. Well, you know, we'll see. We'll see. I mean, our mock drafts. As my staff well knows, I mess around with them a lot now. I'm all fired up on the Chiefs. Chiefs don't get two first round picks. What are they going to do? I think they want love, but there's the Kenneth Walker situation. That funny. McDuffie's just about what the money would take for Kenneth Walker. Here's J. Mac with the news.
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Albert Breer
No, no, no, no.
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Lavar Arrington
Turn on the news.
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Albert Breer
This is the Herd line news.
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Rob Parker
I checked my phone in case you loop me GM text thread with the GMs, but nothing yet.
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Colin Cowherd
Just.
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Rob Parker
Just keep me posted on it, okay? All right, let's revisit Trent McDuffie and the big trade this morning. Colin. I. I think it's a really big, awesome Deal for the Rams. It's a good, not great deal for the Chiefs. It's interesting that Breer floated. Hey, what does that mean the Chiefs are in on Kenneth Walker. Colin, does it make sense building a team to move off an all pro cornerback to get in the business of a running back? I, I, I, it doesn't add up to me. I don't totally know what the Chiefs are doing. Warren Sharp had an interesting take that the Chiefs now have more draft capital than they've had in almost 20 years.
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Colin Cowherd
That's right.
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Rob Parker
However, this is considered a weaker draft. Why are you loading up for this year's draft? Next year's draft is supposed to be much better, especially at the top. So very puzzling stuff out of Kansas City right now. And again we keep talking blue chip talent. They broke down Creed Humphrey, obviously. Patrick Mahomes. Yes. Chris Jones. I think the star is dimming a bit. I'm not saying he's not a star.
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Colin Cowherd
He's really good.
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Rob Parker
Is Travis Kelce coming back? What do we do with Rasheed Rice like Colin? Look at their secondary. It's a bunch of former third and fourth and fifth round picks. And, and Spagnolo's defense last year did not deliver. I know Kansas City Chiefs fans think I'm a hater.
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Colin Cowherd
Well, no, listen. If they get Kenneth Walker and their first two picks are an offensive lineman, a right tackle and a starting corner to supplant the loss, then all of a sudden I've got legitimate top seven running back. Solve issue, solve, pick up a backup later in the round. Because right now they've got a two ones, a second, a third, a fourth, two fifth. Tuesday they got a lot of draft capital and I think they can solve their primary need. It happens to be in the first round, a good tackle and a good corner draft. And I think they can get a corner and a tackle in the first round and Kenneth Walker in free agency that plugs three holes. So again, I think they're a viable playoff team, but in a division, you know, with Denver, I don't think they stack up quite to Denver yet.
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Rob Parker
Okay, listen, I'm not out here. I know you're tight with the GM of the Chiefs. Okay, I'm not here bashing him. I know they watch. So you're making it sound like all these picks they're going to nail. So last year Josh Simmons missed. He only played eight games. He missed a bunch of games.
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Colin Cowherd
When Josh Simmons did play was very good.
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Rob Parker
Okay, so their second round pick barely did anything. Played five games, had Non factor, third round pick, total non factor. Their other third round pick is a cornerback who they're now projecting as a starter. Their fourth, fifth and seventh basically did nothing. Rashad Smith, I guess was decent rotational piece. And you go back in 2024, a lot of whiffs. Colin. 2023. Wanya Morris is already gone. I mean you look at the Chiefs history, they have not been like grand slam home runs. We keep thinking of the Chiefs from those super bowl teams with like Tyreek Hill, Prime Kelsey. I mean they had like Sammy Watkins, they had luxurious, Snead, McDuffie. They've had so many good players. They're all gone, bro. The cupboard is empty. I don't know how this win total is anywhere close to ten and a half. Which we talked about I think last week, right?
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah.
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Rob Parker
I mean, what do you, what do you think this is an eight and a half win team, Max?
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Colin Cowherd
No, I think Kenneth Walker, a corner and a tackle in the first round. That's three holes. I think they're a 10 win team.
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Rob Parker
You know, you're so optimistic, Colin Boy,
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Colin Cowherd
this is my nature, my DNA. All right, let's go.
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Rob Parker
Let me see you be optimistic about this. Next topic. Kyler Murray, who flamed out in Arizona and according to DraftKings, the Vikings are the early favors to sign him at the -110, which is crazy. That must mean somebody knows something. The jets are second. Gosh, please don't let that happen. Dolphins followed by the Browns and Falcons. Vikings. Kevin o'. Connell. You think he wants to get in bed with Kyler? I don't do my homework. Murray.
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Colin Cowherd
No. Yeah, I wouldn't bet any of those.
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Rob Parker
Now we know that nobody's gonna have to pay him because you know he's getting paid from the Cardinals. So he. Listen, at KYLER Murray at $2 million is a deal. But we thought that with Russell Wilson too, didn't we?
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah, I just, I, I don't listen, JJ McCarthy already struggles with confidence. I don't think bringing Kyler Murray into the room helps.
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Rob Parker
Yeah, you think Kyler Murray is going to be like a hold a clipboard, be a leader, be silent. That, that doesn't seem like his nature except the silent. He just is not like a, a, a chatty guy. He's not like verbally a leader that's been established. Buddha Baker was the leader of those Arizona Cardinals seats. I, I, it's just, I would not bet that at all. Let's go to the final story, and that is Trey Hendrickson of the Cincinnati
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Colin Cowherd
Bungles go for they got nothing out of it.
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Rob Parker
So poorly played, they could have traded it multiple times, never got what they wanted. And now he's gone. He made the Pro bowl four out of five seasons in the last five years. He ranks in the top five in pressure rate, sacks and sacks resulting in fumbles.
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Colin Cowherd
Trade him a year ago because they're
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Rob Parker
not a well run organization. Just a shot in the dark.
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Colin Cowherd
I don't know.
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Rob Parker
Just so total buffoonery. And I know he has a staffer who loves the Bengals. I'm curious if he's piling on here.
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Colin Cowherd
He's honest, unlike you and the Jets. He gives you a straight take. No, he knows he's frustrated. And I get. And I go back to you don't think Joe Burrow, sitting there today thinking you couldn't have gotten me a right tackle or another tight end. I mean, they got nothing for him. What's the point?
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Rob Parker
Losing stars for nothing really hurts badly. And Trey Hendrickson, still in his prime. My guess is he's the consolation prize for whoever goes after Max Crosby and whiffs. Hey, let's go get Trey Hendrickson. I mean, he's still really freaking good. I don't know that he's a top five edge rusher, but top ten for sure, right?
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Colin Cowherd
Oh, absolutely. He's probably top five or six.
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Albert Breer
Yeah.
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Rob Parker
I mean, listen, if Buffalo can get him on the cheat.
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Colin Cowherd
Oh, it'd be.
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Rob Parker
That's a. That's a home run.
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Colin Cowherd
Not getting him on the cheap, but if you could get him, period.
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Rob Parker
Well, does he want to go contend again?
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Colin Cowherd
He's. I think he's in the Micah Parsons class. I think he's probably a little better against the run than Micah. He's not, you know, he's.
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Rob Parker
Are you down on Micah Parsons?
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Colin Cowherd
No, I'm just. Micah is kind of a splash player.
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Rob Parker
Kind of a. David Mulaguetta is going to text me after this.
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Colin Cowherd
Can you get Coward. He's a bit of a splash player. I'm a Miles Garrett, Max Crosby guy. That's just.
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Rob Parker
You've planted your flag over there. Give me Micah. Give me Micah.
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Colin Cowherd
All right, J. Mac with the news. Well, that's the news and thanks for stopping by the Herd lie news. Yeah, I love sending my mock out and it gets crushed by everybody. That's so good. Live in Chicago, it's the Herd. Be sure to catch live editions of the Herd. Weekdays at noon Eastern, 9am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, FS1 and the iHeartRadio app.
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Rob Parker
Friday at 8 Eastern only on Fox
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Colin Cowherd
Tarek Skubal, back to back Cy Young winner for the Detroit Tigers. Favored to win a third straight. He will get his only World Baseball Classic start Saturday against Great Britain. Jazz Chisholm of the Yankees is their best player and I asked him about Team USA's chances and how they're going to, you know, how is it going to be managed? Is it, is it, will you be allowed to go if you had a no hitter into the seventh inning, how are they going to manage it? He talks about Team USA with what
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Albert Breer
we got going on too, and the talent of arms that we have. I like our odds against anybody, you know, however those decisions get made, you know, I think there's going to be piggyback starters and starter goes here. We go to a reliever and then we give the next starter a clean inning and then, you know, hopefully it's the 7th, 8th, 9th and I don't think anybody wants to face the guys that we got in the seventh, eighth or ninth inning. So it's going to be a ton of fun.
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Colin Cowherd
You know, I also. There you go. Schedule Friday, Brazil. He's got what they call a turbo slider. Good luck. Brazil, Great Britain, Mexico and Italy. I just want to watch, I just want to watch. Brazil, Great Britain, Mexico and Italy. I want to see their teams. We all know this in the NBA, the last several MVPs have been international players. Jokic, you know, SGA, Luka, you know, Giannis. Just an explosion of international talent. Everybody knows that to be true. Years ago, the reputation for international players is they were soft but very highly skilled. They play fewer games, a lot more practice than domestic players and they play against older players. If they're good and young, they can be 17, 18 years old. They're playing against 24 year old men, so they come out highly skilled. Now what's happened because of the NIL is American colleges can simply pay more because our economy is much bigger than Europe and we can pay more and buy the best European kids. So Pitino talked about over the last couple of years with Nil, the influx of really high end European players.
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Rick Pitino
The Europeans, they're used to ball movement, player movement with a high post as the center find the backdoor cutter, set screens pop out, the ability to shoot the three. For the foreign players on my team, I have a player from Austria, Sweden, Nigeria, Ghana, Portugal, Greece. So it's the foreign influence is here to stay, but it makes the game so much better because they really understand how to play. Now, most of them defensively can't guard me, but on the offense, they're great.
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Colin Cowherd
So I think what we're seeing, I mean, I know over the last couple of weeks, I start to really watch college basketball. When you get into late February, early March, the quality is unbelievable. You go watch Michigan and Arizona play, they just have layers of talent. And Patino's St. John's team has split with UConn, beat Georgetown last night. They're 18th in the country. Size, good guard play, obviously a brilliant coach. But I, you know, one of the things I talked to Patino about, Roy Williams retired, Coach K retired, Jay Wright retired. And here's Patino still plugging along. And I asked him kind of why he's endured.
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Rick Pitino
I think I can adjust to just about anything. Because you have to adjust today.
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Rob Parker
You.
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Rick Pitino
You see it all the time in the game. You have to change with the times because it's all different. No different than the NFL. The way the NFL game is played. It used to be running back, off tackle, Jim Brown running off tackle and taking people with him, and now it's whiteouts more than anything else. So all the sports change. The coaches that don't want to change get out. And I wasn't ready to get out because I took two years off and my golf wasn't very good. Some of the things going to the racetrack, I was losing too much money. So I like to keep the money in my pocket and coach basketball.
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Colin Cowherd
And that's what he is doing for St. John's who, you know, it's. It's. They're playing a lot of their games at Madison Square Garden now, which is great. For years and years post Louis Carneseca, they couldn't get it right. So the story of the day, Patrick Mahomes put out the Tweet. Damn Trent McDuffie on any Sunday. Next to Mahomes, as good a player as the Kansas City Chiefs have they traded into the Rams, who needed a corner. You know, people say it's a good draft, a bad draft. It depends. Like, Kansas City now has the most draft picks they've had in 20 years. And I think that the two or three things they need, it's a good tackle draft, a good corner draft in the first round, and a good edge draft. That's exactly what the Chiefs need. So if they could get Kenneth Walker from the Seahawks, they would solve the it's a bad running back draft, so get Kenneth Walker. Get a tackle, a corner and an edge with your first three picks. I think Kansas City will be fine. They're in a kind of a soft rebuild where they've got the coach and the quarterback and some decent weapons, but they're getting long in the tooth. Chris Jones probably needs to have a bounce back year. Here was Albert Brer not long ago on the McDuffie move.
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Albert Breer
Walker has got a robust market. I think there will be a handful of teams involved. I think Breece hall being tagged by the jets helps his cause. And I think you're going to have contenders involved. So Denver, like you said, they're one team I've heard would be involved. I know Houston had an interest. Obviously they're off that market now after the trade for David Montgomery. And the Kansas City Chiefs are interesting here. I think I mentioned this steel last week from the combine. Trent McDuffie clears just under $14 million in cash and $14 million in cap space for the Chiefs. That's about what I think Kenneth Walker is going to cost.
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Colin Cowherd
Pretty interesting. Makes a lot of sense for Kansas City. Now J. Mac is down on Kansas City, but again, I think between free agency, first of all, if you have the coach and the quarterback right, you're always viable. I mean, New England was awful. They get variable with Drake May and Drake May is not even a finished product and they're in the Super Bowl. So Kansas, I mean, I don't think Baltimore is going to be as good. I don't trust the Burroughs. Let Hendrickson go. Buffalo didn't have a Pro Bowler on defense. I think Denver's really, really good. But not everybody loves Bo Nix. So I think if they can solve running back, right tackle, get another corner, edge rusher, they got a lot of picks. I think they'll be. I think they're a 10, 11 win team.
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Rob Parker
Yeah. I'm wondering, do you think they go, Is there a world where the Rams decide, you know what? Bleep it, let's go all in. Let's go after Max Crosby. Or is that just. That's a little too much now that they got McDuffie.
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Colin Cowherd
No, I listen, drafting is impossible. I mean, John Snyder, what he's doing in Seattle is insane. That he's like nine for his last nine in the first two rounds. And he's been doing it, by the way, middle of the first round, bottom of the first round, it's hard.
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Rob Parker
It's hard to continue that too.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah.
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Rob Parker
So maybe the Rams strategy all along, forget the picks. It was a different F word that they said regarding the picks. But like that, it seems like it's a winning strategy for them now you have the quarterback, you got the coach, you're in good shape. You don't need.
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Colin Cowherd
Well, I think with McVeigh it seems like every offensive pick I mean Puka fifth round. Kyron Williams fourth or two at. Well, I mean they just kind of at Wells. You know, he'd been a disappoint most of their picks.
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Rob Parker
Well, your point on the Puka Adams stuff with the Puka injuries and Adams being old, that's the only reason I think your lemon to to the Rams in the first round could have some legs. They might need a third receiver.
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Colin Cowherd
We'll see you tomorrow. First things first. Starts next.
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