THE HERD - Hour 3 - Cowboys Trade Deadline Dissection, Geoff Schwartz, Jon Machota

Summary

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The Herd with Colin Cowherd

Episode: The Herd - Hour 3 - Cowboys Trade Deadline Dissection, Geoff Schwartz, Jon Machota
Date: November 5, 2025
Podcast: iHeartPodcasts and The Volume

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Episode Overview

This episode of The Herd dives deep into the aftermath of the NFL trade deadline, focusing especially on the Dallas Cowboys’ acquisition of Quinnen Williams. Colin Cowherd is joined by former NFL offensive lineman Geoff Schwartz and Cowboys reporter Jon Machota for a lively breakdown of deadline moves, recent NFL and college football action, and what these changes mean for top teams and players. Rachel Nichols joins for a news segment that travels from NFL reactions to NBA hot topics. The hour is filled with candid analysis, insider takes, and Colin’s signature blend of skepticism and humor.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. College Football: Oregon vs. Iowa, Dante Moore & Playoff Picture

[03:57 – 09:26]

• Oregon’s Big Game in Iowa
  • Geoff Schwartz (Oregon alum) expects a “physical, low-scoring grind” versus Iowa, highlighting Oregon’s need to be aggressive on offense but wary of Iowa’s special teams prowess.
    • “You can’t just walk into Iowa and expect to get a W… I want to see some aggressiveness for passing.” – Geoff [04:29]
    • Iowa’s success is attributed to “not making mistakes” and letting opponents beat themselves.
• Dante Moore’s Future
  • Both Colin and Geoff speculate Oregon QB Dante Moore likely stays another year, noting a trend toward players sticking around due to NIL (Name, Image, Likeness) deals.
    • “It does feel like that’s what the plan is for next season, when everyone’s a little bit more seasoned…to make a run for the championship.” – Geoff [06:33]
• College Football Playoff Outlook
  • Geoff believes Texas is the potential playoff disruptor—a team being overlooked because of an early-season stumble:
    • “Be prepared for Texas as a playoff team. I don't think people are taking that as seriously as they should.” – Geoff [07:55]
  • Colin remains skeptical about Texas actually beating Georgia.
    • “I don’t, I’m not buying the Texas hype. Do you think they can win at Georgia?” [08:11]

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2. NFL Trade Deadline: Jets, Chiefs, and Cowboys

[09:26 – 17:06]

• Jets’ Big Trades

  • Colin jokes about Jets’ “heist” for Sauce Gardner and Quinnen Williams and their future Super Bowl hopes.
  • Geoff likes the Jets’ aggressive pivot for draft capital, emphasizing the need to “find a quarterback.”
    • “You can’t win if you don’t have a quarterback. I like what the Jets did… they’d be ecstatic.” – Geoff [09:52]

• Chiefs’ Running Back Situation

  • Colin wonders why the Chiefs didn’t make a more aggressive move for a running back.
  • Geoff explains the Chiefs’ reluctance is due to limited draft capital and their internal belief in young back Smith (pending improvement in pass protection).
  • Questions Kansas City's run-game strategy and playcalling against the Bills.
    • “Sometimes I feel like they are their own worst enemy offensively with some of the gameplay.” – Geoff [11:39]

• Patrick Mahomes’ Struggles

  • Cowherd notes Mahomes’ poor night (3/16 under pressure) and confusion against Buffalo’s defense.
  • Geoff is surprised the Chiefs “looked lost,” noting the offense had previously seemed to have figured things out.
    • “Against Buffalo, whose defense has struggled—they had no answers. That’s the most surprising thing.” – Geoff [13:23]

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3. NFL: Betting Frustrations & Game Picks

[14:22 – 15:31]

• Geoff reveals a tough run with NFL betting, favoring college football as a safer bet.
  • “If someone asked me to win an NFL side and my kid’s life were on the line, it would not be good, buddy.” – Geoff [14:36]
  • Leans towards UCLA, West Virginia, USC in college games; avoids NFL sides.

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4. Cowboys Trade Deep Dive with Rachel Nichols & Jon Machota

[17:06 – 40:21]

• Dak Prescott & Team Reaction

  • Rachel shares Dak’s enthusiastic reaction to the Quinnen Williams trade (“bleeping pumped”), while Colin finds the move questionable.
  • Trade grades from major outlets vary: Fox Sports (C-), The Athletic & CBS (B-), SI (B+).
    • “I would be so concerned if Dak was like ‘what the hell are we doing?’...Just still a lot of questions.” – Colin [17:31]

• Front Office and Defensive Issues (Jon Machota Interview)

  • The trade is partly for this year, but largely for 2026 and beyond as playoffs seem unlikely after their Cardinals loss.
    • “If Quinnen Williams isn’t under contract beyond this season, they’re not making this move.” – Jon Machota [31:58]
  • Cowboys defense issues:
    • Linebackers and secondary graded poorly; optimism points to offseason moves and draft capital.
    • “There are a few other things they can do in the offseason...they could be a legitimate contender next season. This season though? I’m not going to try and sell that to you.” – Jon [33:01]
  • Specific breakdown of problems:
    • Bland's and Diggs' disappointing play; Diggs' off-field concussion and possible departure (“unlikely he’ll be on the team next season”).
    • Revamped secondary expected for next year.

• George Pickens’ Contract Situation

  • Pickens has revived the offense but faces a potential franchise tag situation, which could be contentious depending on how negotiations go.
    • “I just don’t see a world where he lets George Pickens out of the building.” – Jon [36:32]
    • Agent drama possible (Pickens shares agent with Micah Parsons, who had a messy negotiation).

• Brian Schottenheimer Coaching Evaluation

  • Grades him as a C+/B-: solid with front office, but results lacking on-field.
    • “You can’t really give him any higher grade than that because the wins just haven’t been there on the field.” – Jon [39:08]

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5. NBA and NFL News Roundup with Rachel Nichols

[17:06 – 23:40]

• Desmond Bane Ejection

  • Rachel reviews ejection for a flagrant foul and ball-spiking incident; team picked for East Finals but off to a shaky start.
  • “He finished 2 for 6 from the floor, three turnovers before he did hit the showers, that is.” – Rachel [18:58]

• Kyler Murray’s Future in Arizona

  • Soft benching for Jacoby Brissett; skepticism about medical excuses for Murray.
  • Rachel and Colin discuss Murray’s attitude, rumors of being traded, and statistical evidence supporting Brissett as the better on-field option.
    • “Just the attitude I’ve seen from him in the last couple months...this is clearly a soft benching.” – Colin [21:15]
    • Brissett’s impact: five more points/game, higher 3rd-down conversion rates; possible playoff swing.
    • Rachel: “If they had been scoring those five points more a game with Brissett instead of Murray, they’d be 6 and 2. That is a big swing.” [21:53]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Iowa Football:
  “What Iowa does so well is very hard to do in this sport. They just don’t make mistakes. They let other teams make the mistakes for them.”
  — Geoff Schwartz [05:21]

• On the Chiefs’ Offense:
  “Sometimes I feel like they are their own worst enemy offensively with, with some of the gameplay.”
  — Geoff Schwartz [11:39]

• Betting Woes:
  “If someone asked me to win an NFL side and my kid’s life were on the line, it would not, it would not be good, buddy.”
  — Geoff Schwartz [14:36]

• Cowboys Front Office Decisions:
  “If Quinnen Williams isn’t under contract beyond the season, they’re not making this move...It is about next season and beyond.”
  — Jon Machota [31:58]

• On George Pickens’ Future:
  “I just don’t see a world where he lets George Pickens out of the building.”
  — Jon Machota [36:32]

• On Kyler Murray’s Benching:
  “Just the attitude I’ve seen from him...this is clearly a soft benching. I mean, come on.”
  — Colin Cowherd [21:15]

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Important Timestamps

• Oregon vs. Iowa Preview & Dante Moore’s Future: [03:57 – 06:57]
• College Football Playoff Outlook & Texas as Wildcard: [07:09 – 09:26]
• NFL Trade Deadline Reactions (Jets, Chiefs, Cowboys): [09:26 – 13:23]
• Mahomes vs. Bills & Offensive Struggles: [12:49 – 13:23]
• NFL Betting Frustrations: [14:22 – 15:31]
• Cowboys Trade Reaction & National Grades: [17:06 – 18:23]
• Rachel Nichols’ NBA/NFL News Segment: [17:06 – 23:40]
• Jon Machota on Cowboys’ Future & Team Moves: [31:10 – 40:22]

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Tone & Style

The episode features The Herd’s hallmark blend of sharp analysis, blunt opinions, and off-script humor. Colin questions conventional wisdom, challenges guests, and switches between skeptical, supportive, or just plain amused. Geoff Schwartz provides detailed, practical football insights, while Jon Machota offers straight-down-the-middle Cowboys reporting. Rachel Nichols adds a brisk, informative news rhythm.

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Recap Takeaways

• The Cowboys’ Quinnen Williams trade is more about 2026 than salvaging a lost 2025 season.
• Oregon football’s trajectory is upward, but toughness and mistake-free play are vital, especially against teams like Iowa.
• The NFL trade deadline gave the Jets ammunition to finally chase a franchise quarterback.
• The Chiefs’ offensive inconsistency sparks real concern, especially with Mahomes under pressure.
• NFL betting is a minefield, as Geoff Schwartz humorously laments.
• NBA and NFL news highlight a tumultuous week for players like Desmond Bane and Kyler Murray.
• Cowboys fans should expect a focus on next year—with wide receiver George Pickens and key defenders likely at the center of ongoing drama.

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Transcript

[Colin Cowherd]

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[Jeff Schwartz]

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[Colin Cowherd]

You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. Welcome back. Our next guest, former NFL offensive lineman. He's got a lot of connections to the Kansas City Chiefs, so obviously he wanted them to get Breeze hall for my Jets. He also played at Oregon, so I'll come in. Jeff Schwartz from the Bear Bets podcast. Jeff obviously wearing his Oregon Ducks gear. Very excited. Hey, how nervous are you for that, that Iowa game? You can't just walk in Iowa and expect to get a W, Jeff.

[Jeff Schwartz]

That's what I've heard. I've heard for days now. Can't, can't win in Iowa. It's too hard to win in Iowa. It's going to be a fun game. It's going to be physical. It's going to be a battle between two teams that want to do the same thing. Both sides of ball. Oregon can pass the ball a little bit better, but they struggle against a better defense to pass the football. What I'm looking for from Oregon side is I want to see some aggressiveness on offense. I felt like the Indiana game, we play a little too passively, right? We let Indiana bring it to us and maybe it's the wrong idea to let do that to Iowa, but I want to see some aggressiveness for passing. The weather might be bad, so we'll see if that affects that. But I like our defense. I like that matchup against Iowa's offense. The defense is really good. Iowa can't throw the ball. We have not struggled against offenses like this in the past. The offense we struggled against Ohio State, the Washingtons, the Indians. We throw the ball a little bit more. So I'm looking forward to the game. It's going to be a little scoring man. Like it's not going to be easy. It's going to be a grind. Can we avoid mistakes? Right? I was so good on special teams. Can you avoid some sort of special teams error? So look what I would does so well. It's very hard to do in this sport. They just don't make mistakes. Right. They let other teams make the mistakes for them and if you can avoid that, that's the best path to winning.

[Colin Cowherd]

This Saturday I took the six. Just a little nibble, a little action play. Let me ask you about Dante Moore. I had Devin Gardner, college football announcer who knows Dante Moore well, I had him on my podcast. He is of the belief that Dante Moore probably stays in school. Now Dante Moore was a he's early in the season. Oh my gosh, this guy's lights out. Then came the Indiana game and everybody's pulled back a little bit. Where are you on the Oregon quarterback?

[Jeff Schwartz]

Yeah, I think he stays one more year. I don't have any inside information but look this stats in Building for 2026. If you look at the recruits that they have, the transfer portal players, the roster they have the young at running back, young at wide receiver, the young in the secondary, they got a lot, a lot of young defensive linemen. They're going to be young at linebacker next season. Like they sort of been building for 2026 and you can make the case that with nil now players staying sometimes. We saw Ohio State do it last year, right? Everyone comes back. We saw Washington in 2023. They had like eight draft picks come back to try to win a championship. They were a couple drives short against Michigan and in that game. So I think that's the sell is to try to get a lot of guys to come back. Whether it's more, whether it's Mateo, Deke's probably gone, maybe convince one of the offensive linemen or two to come back. And it does feel like that's what the plan is for next season when everyone's a little bit more seasoned and you have an opportunity I think at that time to make a run for the championship.

[Colin Cowherd]

While we're on college football, any glaring omission screw ups by the college football committee seem like a relatively clean and peaceful first offering your thoughts.

[Jeff Schwartz]

Yeah, it was interesting because it's the first year we've heard early on that they're going eye test and film. We've never heard that before. And I've always thought that was the case. Right. Like I always thought itest matters or humans watching the games. So I'm glad they're actually, they're actually acknowledging that. I'm telling you guys right now, the team that is going to be disruptor and you have to accept this is Texas. If they beat Georgia, if Texas beats Georgia, they're going to be in the top seven, probably most likely. Whereas BYU is dropping out. If Oregon loses, they're out. Right. Like they're going to be Georgia. If they lose to Texas, they're out of the top seven. And then Texas might be the first, you know, three loss non conference champion to be in the playoffs because they beat Georgia, they go to top seven, they lose to A and M the end of the season, they're not dropping out of the top 10. Losing to the number three team in the country. A close game, let's say. So to me it's Texas, man. I, I think Texas, they're playing slightly better every week, which is important. They can go into Athens and beat Georgia. Be prepared for Texas as a playoff team. I don't think people are taking that as seriously as you should.

[Colin Cowherd]

It's weird. You know, they suffer the early loss to Ohio State and then they beat Oklahoma. I mean Matier just coming off the injury like I, I, I just look at the resume, I'm like, oh, the win over Vandy is swelling. But I mean it was Vanderbilt who were, you know, smoking mirrors all season. I don't, I'm not buying the Texas type. Do you think they can actually win at Georgia? I haven't seen a line for that game yet. I would guess it's probably north of seven for Georgia.

[Jeff Schwartz]

I think it's probably about seven. I mean I think that the teams are going to rate these, you know, closer to Georgia's been itching for a loss, man. Look, the best thing they've done this season and give Kirby credit is, you know, they have been hard to kill. Right. He said that to us on the Bear bets pockets at him on last week. But they've played enough close games now where one of them's not going to be in their direction. We know how this goes with these close games, right. They've had multiple comebacks this year. They've done a great job. They've won the games that is important to win the football game. But I'm not Saying Texas is going to win that game. I'm just saying they play another close game. Again, those are 50. 50. Right. And maybe it goes the other direction and Texas ends up with a win. But again, I don't know to your point, I don't know if I trust Texas to win that game, but I just want people to understand that. Like, I think we've ignored Texas because of the way they started the season. They're very much in the hunt to be a playoff team.

[Colin Cowherd]

Yeah. All right, let's pivot to the NFL. And another green team had a monster, monster day yesterday. That's my New York Jets. You could go ahead and pick it apart. The sauce deal felt like a bit of a heist for a desperate team. And the Quinn and Williams deal is laughable from Jerry's perspective. Another bad deal by a bad owner. So the jets, are they winning the Super bowl in 28 or 29?

[Jeff Schwartz]

Look, I think you give yourself the best option now to be aggressive finding a quarterback. Right. Because look, I understand trading away core players on defense that are good. I think, I still think Sauce is good. You know, changing a team might be helpful for him. I certainly Williams can play better. I think you get dragged and I've been on bad teams where you get dragged down sometimes by the weight of losing. And now you're playing especially sauce. Right. For team trying to be the one seed, you probably pick your play up a little bit, but you're trading away those players knowing that you cannot win without a quarterback. And now you have the ammo, whether it's this draft or the next draft to get the guy the future. You cannot win if you know a quarterback. So I like what the jets did. I thought if you would have told them that you end up with three first round picks for their two players, they would be ecstatic. The Colts took a big gamble. I think Jerry Jones and Dallas just. He needs chaos in his life. He needs like to always do something and feel something so he makes these trades. The trade makes no sense, but I think just a really good job here of just giving themselves a lot of options come this spring.

[Colin Cowherd]

Yeah, I'm going to look elsewhere in the league. Kansas City Chiefs, you know, a lot of teams reactionary and I know they didn't look sharp against the Bills. And Isaiah Pacheco did not play. There's some issues with the run game. I saw some defensive breakdowns. The Bills, Jeff played with six defensive backs almost the entire game and dared the Chiefs to run the football on them. And the Chiefs could not. Now I know they were down some offensive linemen, but are you surprised they didn't go out and make a move and overpay if you will for Breeze Hall? Apparently they were offering a four in the jets had three or just get the hell out of Dodge. But did the Chiefs need a running back?

[Jeff Schwartz]

Yes and no. It would have been nice, I think but they don't have a lot of draft picks next season and I think that's part of the reason why they weren't really willing to part with anything more than a fourth round pick. They have Smith, who's young and you know, chief fans want him to play at running back. You have to be able to pass protect and a lot of times young guys don't play early because they're not ready for that yet. Smith is new to the position. He has not played a lot of running back in his career in college. Like I think he's just not ready in that, in that part of his game. That's why he's not playing. If he gets up to speed and pass protection, he could be your answer. He's a, he's a dynamic player at that position. If he gets the ball a little more. I was more upset J. Mac with the game playing against Buffalo. You mentioned it, right? All the defense, tackles hurt just run the football like they just sometimes I feel like are their own worst enemy offensively with, with some of the gameplay. I don't know what that game plan was. They have games where they commit to under center runs. They have games where they don't commit to it. And so look, give Buffalo the credit. They played really well. They were the better team. But I think the Chiefs just game plan wise I didn't love it. And now you have a tough stretch, right? You have the Broncos off a buy like you're in there's now it's almost a must win if you want to win the division like coming off the bye and playing Denver.

[Colin Cowherd]

Now I know I'm, I'm a Chiefs hater, blah blah blah. You are. Let's be real. Patrick Mahomes when pressured 3 of 16 against Buffalo. That's a staggering number. He was, he seemed reluctant to run Mahomes. I mean this was one of, this was one of the worst games of his career. He genuinely looked confused, Jeff. And again I'm not bashing him. I know he's won Super Bowls, he's a superstar, he's going to the hall of Fame. I don't care. I'm just looking at that game He, I mean, he was just totally locked up by a defense that you got to admit, they have looked shaky all season.

[Jeff Schwartz]

I agree. That's why the game was confusing to me because we had seen since Worthy came back and Rice came back like this offense looked like it had turned the corner just schematically right. There were guys open deep, they were doing different things, hadn't done for a couple years and they scored 28 points in five straight games. And yes, some of those teams weren't great, but that's what you do against bad teams, right? You score a lot of points. You run the score up. And against Buffalo, whose defense has struggled, they had no answers. They had nothing. They look lost. And that's the most surprising thing because I thought they got in a point where they figured out what they want to do offensively and it didn't happen in this game. So is that indicative of when you play better teams, you're not as good or is it that you had a bad game but again, you come out of the buy. I think it's Denver and then might be one more than Indianapolis. Looks like you're going to come out pretty quickly and figure out the, the type of team you are. If you lose to Denver, you're three back, I think in the division with what, seven games left. So a really big game off by the Chiefs have been good historically off a buy. So we'll see that game goes all right.

[Colin Cowherd]

Two more real quick. Number one, any bets in the account this weekend on the NFL front? I only have Thursday Night Football and, and Bears Giants. But it is a tight week of lines. Anything jump out to you or have you hit anything yet?

[Jeff Schwartz]

J. Mack if someone asked me to win an NFL side and my kid's life were on the line, it would not, it would not be good, buddy.

[Colin Cowherd]

Is it going that poorly?

[Jeff Schwartz]

I, I, I have, I have not won NFL a long time. Oh, and it's been, it's been a rough go. I mean, look, I, I don't want to get on national TV and radio and complain about my wagers, but you know, I had the Chargers last week. They scored 27 points on offense. The Titans scored six. Yeah, Chargers didn't cover. I don't, I don't, I don't know what else to do.

[Colin Cowherd]

What are good read the process was.

[Jeff Schwartz]

I've been, yeah, but I haven't won a wager in a long time. So I don't, I don't have, I, I have more college football. You know, on Wednesday. It's hard with NFL. Like, I. I like what. I like ucla. I like West Virginia to cover. I like USC Friday Night Caller. Love to hear that. To cover against Northwestern. So the NFL, the NFL sides, man, are hard. It's just. It's a tough business to be in on those sides.

[Colin Cowherd]

And last one, McVeigh Shanahan. I'm trying to look at injury reports during commercial breaks. Nothing yet from San Fran. I don't know if it's going to be purdy. I don't know if Ricky Pierce Hall's alive. I mean, I don't know what the hell's going on with the Niners Rams. The number's gone up, though. I see four and a half offshore. That seems like a big number. But the 49ers defense did sneaky. Bad.

[Jeff Schwartz]

Well, it's up and sneaky. It's been bad because they don't have their best players. Like, eventually, when you lose Nick Bosa and Fred Warner, it's going to be bad. And the Rams have to obviously have to avenge, like what happened to them a couple Thursdays ago. I mean, I would probably lean Rams here. I don't feel great about it. But the Niners defense is a problem because you don't replace those guys. And they had that one game against the Falcons where it was like, oh, we played really well with our backups then. Since then, it's been a problem. That's not a surprise because the Rams take advantage of it. The Rams really, until that Thursday night game, had sort of owned this series the last three years. So I'm curious to see how they bounce back from that.

[Colin Cowherd]

It'll be a good one. Jeff Schwartz, bare Bets podcast. I would say good luck to your Ducks, but I'm on the Hawkeyes small plus six, so have a great weekend.

[Jeff Schwartz]

You can cover. There you go.

[Colin Cowherd]

Yeah, there you go. Perfect. Thanks a lot, buddy.

[Jeff Schwartz]

Take care, buddy.

[Colin Cowherd]

All right, good stuff from Jeff Schwartz. I wonder if Rachel and Jeff had a bet on Oregon Northwestern. I don't even know if they play this season.

[Rachel Nichols]

All right, no respect for Northwestern on today's show.

[Colin Cowherd]

Sorry, I haven't looked at the college basketball team. Season's underway.

[Rachel Nichols]

You Joe Klatt, him. It's just. It's brutal out here.

[Colin Cowherd]

All right, let's go to Rachel with the news. No, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the Herd line news.

[Rachel Nichols]

All right, that Cowboys trade we've mentioned just a few times on the show, all types of reactions, but here's one from quarterback Dak Prescott. Dak told the media he was bleeping Pumped for Quinn and Williams to join the team, Head coach Brian Schottenheimer added, quote, kudos to Jerry, Steven, and Will for being aggressive and smart. Jason, does that convince you that this was a brilliant move? Now that Dak said so, I would.

[Colin Cowherd]

Be so concerned if Dak was like, what the hell are we doing? Jerry, you're out of your mind. It just. I don't see how you move off Micah and then think you made a mistake and then go into Quinn, Williams, and I know it's for next year. I mean, you know, Dax had a rich injury history the last, like, three or four years. I know he's been good. What are we doing with Pickens in the offseason? Like, just still a lot of questions. We have a Cowboys reporter coming up in about 12 minutes who hopefully can address some stuff. But, hey, I will say this about Dak. The more he talks, the more I like him.

[Rachel Nichols]

Look, I knew how down you were on this trade, so I thought I would look up some other trade grades from other sources. Our own Fox Sports website gave this a C minus for Dallas.

[Colin Cowherd]

Okay.

[Rachel Nichols]

For Dallas. The Athletic gave it a B minus. CBS gave it a B minus. Sports Illustrated coming in with a B plus. So, you know, I think most people agree with you and not Dak Prescott is my point.

[Colin Cowherd]

Good stuff.

[Rachel Nichols]

There you go. All right. To hardwood. Desmond Bain got two for the price of one here last night.

[Colin Cowherd]

Yes, I saw.

[Rachel Nichols]

Take a look at this foul.

[John Machota]

And then.

[Colin Cowherd]

What was that about?

[Jeff Schwartz]

Right?

[Colin Cowherd]

Oh, and the point. Watch this.

[Rachel Nichols]

Because he fouls and then spikes the.

[Colin Cowherd]

Ball, bro, that is dangerous. And then he points it. Is that capella or. Oh, no, it's a Kongwu. He fouled.

[Rachel Nichols]

He got a flagrant. He got a tech. He said after the game he was surprised he was ejected.

[Colin Cowherd]

Why'd they throw me out?

[Rachel Nichols]

I just expected a regular foul. He finished 2 for 6 from the floor, three turnovers before he did. Hit the showers, that is. Do you agree with the officials or with Bain? Should he have gotten kicked out?

[Colin Cowherd]

So a quick backup. So he was supposed to be, like, a big pickup for the Magic.

[Rachel Nichols]

Huge.

[Colin Cowherd]

I'm looking at the standings. They're three and five and struggling. Yeah. I wonder if he's just frustrated with how things are going. I know there's some analytic tension. They're actually better with Bane off the floor this season. Listen, it takes a while to let this stuff bake, right? Yeah.

[Rachel Nichols]

I mean, look, they were picked, though, for getting to the east finals, so.

[Colin Cowherd]

They were a contender for sure. Currently, they're 10. This did not. When you just see this highlight, you're like, whoa, what's that about? Like, I don't know. They're not going to suspend him, do you think?

[Rachel Nichols]

I mean, he has a history of some of these heated incidents. I don't think the league office is going to get involved, but they could. I mean, that's. When they get involved in this kind of thing, it's because. Oh, well, repetitive. You know, it's less about the defendant.

[Colin Cowherd]

It's more the ball on the guy. Like in the NFL, that's 15 yards and maybe in a jet. College football, they're tossing you target. I don't. Yeah, yeah.

[Rachel Nichols]

Surprised he was ejected.

[Podcast Advertiser/Announcer]

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[Rachel Nichols]

There you go. All right, let's go back to football. After Kyler Murray was listed as inactive on Monday night, there was speculation about his future in Arizona. Speculation is only growing as head coach Jonathan Gannon announced Jacoby Brissette will get the start for the Cardinals next week. And now new timelines are being reported for Murray's return from his foot injury. Adam Schefter at ESPN reporting it could be another month or two.

[John Machota]

No.

[Rachel Nichols]

Now, you said in the meeting this morning you think this was like a soft benching.

[Colin Cowherd]

You're skeptical of the medical report last week on Friday. I think it was Friday. They said Kyler Murray is not going to start, but he could have a role. Remember they used that wording, I think, you know, the kind of thing where the team texts all the reporters. Wrap a porch. Could have a role. And then it was like, no, he's inactive.

[Rachel Nichols]

Inactive.

[Colin Cowherd]

And now he could miss a month or two. Yeah. So I did ask this in the morning meeting, and I got, you know, a lot of thumbs down and. You're out of your mind, Rachel. Four years from now, is Kyler Murray in the NFL or playing Major League Baseball?

[Rachel Nichols]

I. I don't think he's playing Major League Baseball.

[Colin Cowherd]

Those are my only baseball pick.

[Rachel Nichols]

It's been a while, though.

[Colin Cowherd]

Just the attitude I've seen from him in the last couple months. And now this is clearly a soft benching. I mean, come on.

[Rachel Nichols]

Well, look, if you look at the numbers, right, they're just better with percent. Right.

[Colin Cowherd]

Undeniable.

[Rachel Nichols]

The third down conversion rate is near 50%. If you stay on the field longer, you have the chance to score more. He's scoring with him leading the offense. They're scoring more than five points more a game. And if you look at their results, this is a crazy number, Right? So they're three and five now, but if they had been scoring those five points more a game with Brissette instead of Murray, they'd be 6 and 2. That's a. That is a big swing.

[Colin Cowherd]

Nobody's saying Brissette's a franchise quarterback, right? I don't think we agree He's a great backup, come in for a few games. But I think what we're saying is Kyler is not a franchise at this point. Now, maybe he could be rehabbed like Baker and Donald and these guys. Rachel, I. I would love it if somebody found me a legit landing spot for Kyler. I keep hearing Saints and Raiders, right? What are. Why would they do that?

[Rachel Nichols]

I mean, there's usually someone.

[Colin Cowherd]

Somebody's dumb enough to be like, I can fix this guy.

[Rachel Nichols]

Well, we've seen a lot of guys fixed recently, right?

[Colin Cowherd]

We have.

[Rachel Nichols]

So I think people now are like, oh, Daniel Jones is doing pretty well in Indianapolis, like, that sort of thing. And Sam Darnold's doing well in Seattle.

[Colin Cowherd]

And check back in in December on dj. What is it? Danny Lou's change? Is it Indiana Jones?

[Rachel Nichols]

I mean, Indiana Jones is good.

[Colin Cowherd]

That's pretty cool. It's good.

[Rachel Nichols]

You can't blame him for, you know, digging that one.

[Colin Cowherd]

And listen, Daniel Jones has been great. That's undeniable. I just. When you see the Kyler interviews, I mean, there was a question about his. Him about the new facility and practice field. He's like, if I'm here. And it was like, wow, that's not funny, bro. No.

[Rachel Nichols]

And the coaches know that if he comes back in and if the status of them losing more games than winning from when he was playing, their jobs are in danger.

[Colin Cowherd]

And they got McBride and Harrison and they had Conor. That's a good team. I'm a little surprised, but four to.

[Rachel Nichols]

Eight weeks maybe on that foot injury. We don't even know what the foot injury is, but no specifics. But the tweet from chapter was 48 weeks. Because if he comes back too soon, it could do more long term.

[Colin Cowherd]

What is this, a Jones fracture? Yeah, we know. NBA injuries. We need to drill down. Are they skirting the rules here? The Ravens got fined for that Lamar thing. 100k.

[Rachel Nichols]

It could also be totally legitimate. We don't know.

[Colin Cowherd]

Could be. Yeah. All right, Rachel Nichols with the news.

[John Machota]

Well, that's the news.

[Colin Cowherd]

And thanks for stopping by the Herd lie news. All right, we are going live to Dallas for the Vibe on the ground. Boots on the ground after the big Quinn Williams trade. That's next here on the Herd. Be sure to catch live editions of the Herd weekdays at noon Eastern, 9am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, FS1 and the iHeartRadio app. Hey, it's Rob Parker and Kelvin Washington.

[Jeff Schwartz]

From the Odd Couple on Fox Sports Radio.

[Colin Cowherd]

And in addition to hearing us live.

[Jeff Schwartz]

Weeknights from 7 to 10pm Eastern on Fox Sports Radio, we are excited to.

[Colin Cowherd]

Announce brand new YouTube channel for the show. That's right, you can now watch the Odd couple live on YouTube every day.

[Jeff Schwartz]

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[Colin Cowherd]

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[Jeff Schwartz]

So look this how I break it down. I said for he can get MVP defensive player of the year and most improve in one year. How he's came out the gate. So an average fan or somebody might be like, okay, well he was the number one pick. He's an all star. How is he going to be most improved? Leave that for somebody that maybe change roles or get more minutes. Because it's like if you break it down like this, say if I average 20 points a game, 20 and 5 in one year, then the next year.

[Colin Cowherd]

I come back and average 30 and 10.

[Jeff Schwartz]

Why won't why am I not in.

[Colin Cowherd]

Consideration for most improved?

[Jeff Schwartz]

Like I'm saying that the significant jump in improvement should have somebody in consideration.

[Colin Cowherd]

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[Jeff Schwartz]

Salt Lake City, 20,000 people.

[Colin Cowherd]

You know, huge turnouts.

[Jeff Schwartz]

People are really dissatisfied about the status quo.

[Colin Cowherd]

His Fighting oligarchy tour with AOC and other young progressives has become a movement. But is his message too far to the left? Well, he certainly doesn't think so.

[Podcast Advertiser/Announcer]

Does that sound like a radical idea, Katie?

[Colin Cowherd]

Is that too far left for you? Okay, okay, I get your point, Bernie. We talk about the billionaire class, the cost of living, and of course the government shutdown, not to mention the current state of the Democratic Party.

[Jeff Schwartz]

To me, the failure of the Democratic.

[Colin Cowherd]

Party has been an unwillingness to recognize the real issues. Open your free iHeartRadio app search next question with Katie Couric and listen. Now on the podcast Health Stuff, we are tackling all the health questions that keep you up at night. Yes, I'm Dr. Priyanka Walley, a double board certified physician. And I'm Hari Kondabolu, a comedian and someone who once googled do I have scurvy at 3am on health stuff, we're talking about health in a different way. It's not only about what we can do to improve our health, but also what our health says about us and the way we're living. Like our episode where we look at diabetes in the United states. I mean, 50% of Americans are pre diabetic. How preventable is type 2? Extremely. Or our in depth analysis of how incredible mangoes are. Oh, it's hard to explain to rest of the world that like your mangoes are fine because mangoes are incredible, but like, you don't even know. You don't know. You don't know. It's going to be a fun ride. So tune in. Listen to health stuff on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Eva Longoria.

[Rachel Nichols]

And I'm Maite Gomez Rajan.

[Colin Cowherd]

And on our podcast Hungry for History, we mix two of our favorite things. Food and history.

[Rachel Nichols]

Ancient Athenians used to scratch names onto oyster shells and they called these ostracon.

[Colin Cowherd]

To vote politicians into exile.

[Rachel Nichols]

So our word ostracize is related to the word oyster.

[Colin Cowherd]

No way. Bring back the ostracon. And because we've got a very mi casa es su casa kind of vibe on our show, friends always stop by. Pretty much every entry into this side of the planet was through the El Golfo de Mexico. No, the America. No, the America. El Golfo de Mexico continuado a si forever and ever it blows me away how progressive Mexico was in this moment.

[Rachel Nichols]

They had land reform, they had labor.

[Colin Cowherd]

Rights, they had education. Mustard seeds were so valuable to the.

[Rachel Nichols]

Ancient Egyptians that they used to place.

[Colin Cowherd]

Them in their tombs for the afterlife.

[Rachel Nichols]

Listen to Hungry for History as part.

[Colin Cowherd]

Of the My Cultura Podcast network, available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. You know the shade is always shadiest right here. Season six of the podcast Reasonably Shady with Gisele Bryan and Robyn Dixon is here dropping every Monday as two of the founding members of the Real Housewives Potomac. We're giving you all the laughs, drama and reality news you can handle. And you know, we don't hold back. So come be reasonable or shady with us each and every Monday I was going through a walk in my neighborhood. Out of the blue, I see this huge sign next to somebody's house. Okay, the sign says, my neighbor is a Karen. No way. I died laughing. I'm like, I have to know. You are lying. Humongous, y'. All. They had some time on their hands. Listen to Reasonably Shady from the Black Effect podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Rachel Nichols]

Start your Saturday strong with the unstoppable second rate Hoosiers. All eyes, including Jason's, by the way, on Fernando Mendoza as he leads Indiana and continues his Heisman campaign against Penn State. It all starts with big noon kickoff at 10am Eastern. Then it's Indiana, Penn State, Big noon Saturday only on Fox.

[Colin Cowherd]

Yes, that's a, that's a good one. Klatt talked about that game earlier. All right, quickly. I don't know if you missed it earlier. Jerry Jones talked about this Quinn and Williams trade and listen to him trying to really sell the fan base on acquiring the jets defensive tackle. I don't have time personally to have a bad time.

[Jeff Schwartz]

It's not on my schedule. And so I have a nor natural.

[Colin Cowherd]

Urgency because of my age. And so my tomorrows, the immediate tomorrow are a big thing to me, but.

[Jeff Schwartz]

I also have enough discipline not to.

[Colin Cowherd]

Get in trouble for years to come. All right, so to make sense of it, let's bring in John Machota, covers the Cowboys for the Athletic. He's been covering Cowboys football forever. John, another day in paradise for you. Just your big picture. The move to get Quinn and Williams on the Cowboys, was it for this year, next year, Was it well calculated? Was it an irrational decision off the Arizona loss? Let's hear it.

[John Machota]

So most of us believe that their chances of making the playoffs are done and they were ended with that loss on Monday night to the Cardinals. But Jerry Jones is the eternal optimist and so he will say it's about this year. He'll talk about how much Quinning can help him this season. They did more five down lineman looks against the Cardinals and that's the plan going forward. But realistically speaking, this deal doesn't get done if the future isn't the big part of it. If Quinn and Williams isn't under contract beyond the season, they're not making this move. And so Jerry can say it's about this season and that he still has hopes and he wants fans to continue to tune in and attend games at AT&T Stadium. But in all reality it is about next season and beyond. And as bad as the Cowboys defense has been this season, and it has been bad, it's been about as bad as ever been in franchise history. A move like this. And there are a few other things they can do in the off season where it wouldn't be that hard for me to sell to you that they could be a legitimate contender next season. This season though, I'm not going to try and sell that to you.

[Colin Cowherd]

Wow. Legitimate contender. That. That's a quantum leap. Let me ask so the linebackers are one of the worst groups in the league. I'm looking at their grades again, it's just more football focused. But they're all orange like bottom of the barrel secondary stinks. You know, listen, two years ago with McCarthy, they had the number three rated defense, Mike McCarthy at the helm, Micah Parsons off the edge. I don't think they're getting back there even with the addition of Logan Wilson and Quinn and Williams. Do you?

[John Machota]

I don't think they are this season. I really, I don't. I mean there's just too many issues they've had defensively for me to think that a player or two is going to fix all of those. But like I said, if you talk about in the off season, you got demarvie and Overshones coming back who might be their best playmaker on defense, who's coming back from a major knee injury. Now he has to stay healthy, but you have him with Quinn and Williams, Ose Digizua, Donovan Aziraku has been a young pass rusher that's ascending for them. You can, you're going to have two first round picks in next year's draft. You could fix this defense pretty quickly. And offensively they don't feel like they're that far off as it is right now. And so that's why, yeah, right now you should not be holding out hope that the Cowboys are going to make this deep playoff run that's unlikely to happen. But beyond this season, no, there's certainly something there where they could turn this thing around quick.

[Colin Cowherd]

Yeah, we'll get to the offense in a sec. But quick question on the defense. So Bland is not delivering like a $92 million man should. He got roasted on Monday Night Football. And then there's the mystery of Trayvon Diggs, who, I mean, as a rookie was supposed to be the second coming of like frigging Deion Sanders or something. And now he's got this mystery concussion that he suffered at home that we don't have an explanation on. And it sounds like he's going to be shipped at the end of. He just. He's not going to be here next year. What's going on with. With Diggs in the secondary?

[John Machota]

Yeah, it's unlikely he won't be on the team next season. It just there, there obviously is a disconnect between him and the team in terms of the concussion. You know, he's been in the locker room since then. Now, when he was in concussion protocol, we couldn't talk to him, but now he's. And he hasn't said anything about any details about how the concussion happened. And the way the Cowboys have talked about it, it doesn't sound like it's anything of, you know, where there was any type of a legal issue or anything where, you know, police would be involved. So they've kind of just put him on IR and said that he's rehabbing from another new knee injury. And then obviously because of the concussion. And so it's kind of like they're moving on with new players and they probably want to get a look at some of their younger corners. Savon Revel, who they drafted in the third round this year, he's come off of a knee injury and so he's supposed to return after the bye week. And I think that that's the plan for them. And so it's not a great secondary with them having the two first round picks in next year's draft. I would bet a lot of money that one of those two will be on a corner. But yeah, the idea of having Diggs and Bland out there and Kyrie Elam, like was their plan going into the season is clearly been a disaster.

[Colin Cowherd]

Okay. So next season, you know, the optimism, it's always next year. I get it. I'm a Jets fan. But I need to ask you, the offense has made a quite a leap this season, largely thanks to Mr. Pickens. He's also in a contract year. Jerry has not signed him yet. Maybe that would probably be a little early. John, I got I gotta ask you, are they retaining Pickens? I know Jerry loves to string these things out for the reality TV show that is the Cowboys, but your best guess is Pickens on this team next year.

[John Machota]

Yeah, absolutely. And I understand there is a small caveat. People will say, whatever I'm about to say now, people will say, well, you could have said this about Micah Parsons. So let me just, let me add in there that as long as George Pickens doesn't lie on a training table during a preseason game and do some of the things that, you know, aggravated the Cowboys front office, you know, in the two or three months leading up to when he got traded, I anticipate that they will franchise tag George Pickens, try and get him signed to a long term deal. If it does not happen, then I can see them having him play next year under that franchise tag. Now that's around 28 million for a wide receiver and you're already paying CD Lamb over 30 million. But those two have clicked too much for me to think that Jerry will go in another direction. And Jerry loves his wide receivers, he loves his offensive playmakers, he loves his offensive players. That's where he spends all of his money. And so I just don't see a world where he lets George Pickens out of the building.

[Colin Cowherd]

Yeah. Can we ask Pickens how he feels about the franchise tag? He's playing like a top 10, 12 receiver in the league. You know, T. Higgins didn't love the franchise tag situation in Cincy. I'm sure Pickens is looking around the league saying, hey, look what I did to our offense. You guys think it's shoddy? No, no, it's me. And that's why Dak is looking like a potential, you know, MVP guy. Pickens, only 24, turning 25. We know how things went for him in Pittsburgh when it started to go sideways. If he's not going to get paid, do you think we see a little unhappy there?

[John Machota]

Could be for sure. Now I wasn't in Pittsburgh and I can only go off what I've seen from him in Dallas. And I will say his, the friendship he has with CD Lamb, I highly doubt he had one of those in Pittsburgh. And he certainly didn't have the quarterback he has now in Pittsburgh. And Piggins and Dak had become Close as well. And so there's just a part with the Cowboys where players can sometimes unite together and keep each other in good spirits by Jerry stirring things up. And so I think that. I think that they can make it work. But, yeah, I don't think he would be thrilled to be playing under the franchise tag. By no means. Especially with the season he's having right now. And he does have the same agent as Micah Parsons. So, hey, there's no shortage of drama in Dallas, and it will not stay stop anytime soon, either. I'm just saying, if I had to predict right now, when they open the season next year. Week one. George Pickens is still wearing the number three for the Dallas Cowboys.

[Colin Cowherd]

All right, last one real quick. Brian Schottenheimer. We are, what, eight or nine games in for the Cowboys. How would you grade him so far? At the midway point through the season.

[John Machota]

I'd say he's probably C plus. I think he does everything behind the scenes. And in terms of dealing with Jerry Jones, that's not an easy task. There's a lot of other things that come with being the Cowboys coach that I think he. He does a good job navigating. You know, coming into work on a Friday morning and you're finalizing your game plan and you find out that you're not going to have your starting corner because he suffered a concussion at his home the night before. You know, things like that that a lot of other organizations you have to deal with. I think Brian is well suited for that, but you can't really give him any higher grade than that because the wins just haven't been there on the field. I mean, to go into the bye week with only three wins and the hardest part of their schedules coming up. I mean, I think he has a chance to turn it around and have them finish strong, but, you know, to not even have consecutive wins through the midway point of the season is obviously not great. But he's not going anywhere. Jerry loves him. He'll be here for at least another season beyond this one.

[Colin Cowherd]

It's weird. They play up to their competition, right? Eagles, Packers. And then down, Caleb Williams loss. Bryce Young lost, like, anyways, all right. John Machota covers the Cowboys for the Athletic. Great stuff, John. Thanks a lot. Enjoy the Jerry scene.

[John Machota]

I will, I will. Thanks for having me on.

[Colin Cowherd]

Yeah. All right. Good stuff, Cowboys. Never a dull moment. You know, that's a job. When I was a young guy, I wanted my job. I wanted to cover the Lakers. I'm not kidding. And John is probably basically covering the Lakers just in the NFL. Crazy. Never a dull moment. All right, great show. First things first is next. Cowherd's likely back tomorrow. He's listed as probable on the injury report.

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[Colin Cowherd]

The Herd, weekdays at noon Eastern, 9am Pacific. On the latest episode of Next Question with me, Katie Couric. I sat down with Bernie Sanders, who is 84 years old, has spent 34 years in Congress and he can still pack a rally with people a quarter of his age. Denver, 34,000 people come out.

[Jeff Schwartz]

Salt Lake City, 20,000 people out.

[Colin Cowherd]

You know, huge turnouts.

[Jeff Schwartz]

People are really dissatisfied about the status quo.

[Colin Cowherd]

His Fighting Oligarchy tour with AOC and other young progressives has become a movement. But is his message too far to the left? Well, he certainly doesn't think so.

[Podcast Advertiser/Announcer]

Does that sound like a radical idea?

[Colin Cowherd]

Is that too far left for you? Okay, okay, I get your point, Bernie. We talk about the billionaire class, the cost of living and of course the government shutdown, not to mention the current state of the Democratic Party.

[Jeff Schwartz]

To me, the failure of the Democratic Party has been an unwillingness to recognize the real issues.

[Colin Cowherd]

Open your free iHeartRadio app. Search next question with Katie Couric and listen. Now on the podcast Health Stuff, we are tackling all the health questions that keep you up at night. Yes, I'm Dr. Priyanka Walley, a double board certified physician. And I'm Hari Kondabolu, a comedian and someone who once googled do I have scurvy at 3am on health, health Stuff, we're talking about health in a different way. It's not only about what we can do to improve our health, but also what our health says about us and the way we're living. Like our episode where we look at diabetes in the United states. I mean, 50% of Americans are pre diabetic. How preventable is type 2? Extremely. Or our in depth analysis of how incredible mangoes are. Oh, it's hard to explain to rest of the world that like your mangoes are fine because mangoes are incredible, but like you don't even know. You don't know. You don't know. It's going to be a fun ride. So tune in. Listen to health stuff on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Jenna World, Jenna Jameson, Vivid Video and the Valley is a new podcast about the history of the adult film industry industry. I'm Molly Lambert, host of Heidi the Heidi Fly Story and I'll be your tour guide on a wild ride through adult films. We get paid more than the men. We call the shots. In what way is that degrading? That's us taking hold of our Life. In the 1990s, actress Jenna Jameson crossed over into mainstream culture, redefined stardom, then left it all behind. I'm a powerful woman. I think that's intimidating to a man. With a cast of hundreds of actors and comedians playing key figures, we'll take a look at how adult films became legal in the 70s, hugely profitable in the 80s and 90s, and fell off a financial cliff in the 2000s. Listen to Gentle on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Eva Longoria. And I'm Maite Gomez Rejun. And on our podcast Hungry for History, we mix two of our favorite things. Food and history.

[Rachel Nichols]

Ancient Athenians used to scratch names onto oyster shells and they called these ostracon.

[Colin Cowherd]

To vote politicians into exile. So our word ostracize is related to the word oyster. No way. Bring back the ostracon. And because we've got a very mi casa es su casa kind of vibe on our show, friends always stop by. Pretty much every entry into this side of the planet was through the El Golfo de Mexico. No, the America. No, the America.

[Podcast Advertiser/Announcer]

El Golfo de Mexico continuad forever and ever.

[Colin Cowherd]

It blows me away how progressive Mexico was in this moment.

[Rachel Nichols]

They had land reform, they had labor.

[Colin Cowherd]

Rights, they had education. Mustard seeds were so valuable to the.

[Rachel Nichols]

Ancient Egyptians that they used to place.

[Colin Cowherd]

Them in their tombs for the afterlife. Listen to Hungry for History as part of the My Cultura podcast network, available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. You know the shade is always shadiest right here. Season six of the podcast Reasonably Shady with Gisele Bryan and Robyn Dixon is here dropping every Monday as two of the founding members of the Real Housewives Potomac. We're giving you all the laughs, drama, and reality news you can handle. And, you know, we don't hold back. So come be reasonable or shady with us each and every Monday, I was going through a walk in my neighborhood. Out of the blue, I see this huge sign next to somebody's house. Okay, the sign says, my neighbor is a Karen. No way. I died laughing. I'm like, I have to know. You are lying. Humongous, y'.

[Podcast Advertiser/Announcer]

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[Colin Cowherd]

They had some time on their hands. Listen to Reasonably Shady from the Black Effect podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

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[Colin Cowherd]

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