THE HERD - Hour 3 - Dak Prescott is having a MVP type season, Baker Mayfield is on the right track, Drake Maye is for real, Mike Sando

Summary

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The Herd with Colin Cowherd

Episode Summary – Hour 3: Dak’s MVP Caliber Season, QB Reboots, Drake Maye’s Rise & Mike Sando (October 17, 2025)

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Brief Overview

In this episode of The Herd, Colin Cowherd and Jason McIntyre are joined by Mike Sando, senior NFL writer for The Athletic, for a wide-ranging discussion on the state of quarterback play in the NFL. Topics include Dak Prescott’s MVP-level performance, the resurgence of Baker Mayfield and Sam Darnold, the promise of young QBs like Drake Maye, and the changing landscape for veteran and newcomer quarterbacks alike. The hosts also dive into the upcoming NFL matchups, Detroit’s outlook post-loss, and the potential of the Dodgers as a baseball dynasty.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Golden Era of Quarterback Play

• Veteran QBs Thriving:
  • Colin and Mike Sando discuss the unexpected productivity of older quarterbacks like Matthew Stafford, Joe Flacco, and Aaron Rodgers.
  • Rule Changes as a Factor:
    • Sando attributes part of this longevity to modern protection rules and better player care:

      “They know how to take care of their body and the rules are all set up. You never see them get ear holed, you know. So it’s really a great setup for these guys to play when they’re older.”
      — Mike Sando [04:04]

  • Younger quarterbacks are benefiting from systems that make passing easier, contributing to an uptick in high passer ratings across the league.

2. Dak Prescott’s True Value (MVP Talk)

• Intangibles Meeting Performance:
  • Jason reflects on possibly undervaluing Dak, noting his consistency despite roster changes and injuries.
  • Sando notes,

    “Last time he played a full season he was second in MVP balloting. That was 2023.”
    — Mike Sando [06:06]

  • However, Sando addresses the “Cowboy fatigue” and skepticism due to playoff letdowns.

3. Young Quarterbacks in Focus

• Challenges of Adapting:
  • Discussion around Caleb Williams and Bo Nix navigating complex new systems with inexperienced supporting staff. Jason notes,

    “Bo Nix may never throw a deep ball and Caleb may never be really consistently accurate.” [06:37]

  • Sando sees maturity in Caleb’s play, crediting Ben Johnson’s tough, “old school” approach as possibly being good for his development:

    “He probably hasn’t had somebody. He’s always been the star. It’s always come pretty easy for him. And so now he’s got this coach who’s tough and going to hold him to it…”
    — Mike Sando [07:32]

• Progression and Remaining Questions:
  • Caleb’s time-to-throw remains high, but there are positive signs he’s adapting.

4. Bo Nix, Drake Maye, Jackson Dart: Young QB Check-In

• Bo Nix:
  • Disappointing deep throw production; solid but not spectacular.

    “He was a little all over the place, a little undisciplined...I think he’s a solid starting quarterback, but I wouldn’t really move him ahead of high tier 3 at this point. Would you?”
    — Mike Sando [09:04]

• Drake Maye:
  • Exceeding expectations thanks to his poise despite a roster full of free agents and a new staff.

    “I think he has shown, especially the last couple weeks, some really, you know, higher level stuff, some of the off schedule stuff’s been kind of special.”
    — Mike Sando [10:11]

• Jackson Dart:
  • Fun to watch but may not be sustainable due to high contact:

    “This guy, you know, goes out there and just gets hit in the chin...that’s a lot of contact without rolling with the punches.”
    — Mike Sando [11:10]

5. QB Reclamation Stories: Baker Mayfield & Sam Darnold

• Sando admits surprise at the level Baker and Darnold have reached, particularly Darnold:

  “Darnold for sure seemed to be, you know, done. I thought before he went to the 49ers… But what he’s doing in Seattle, I think is another level ahead of what he did in Minnesota.”
  — Mike Sando [12:18]

• Baker’s infectious personality inspires teammates:

  “I want to play for him. You know, I’d run out there and take a huge hit over the middle right now for that guy. Just the energy he brings. I love it.”
  — Mike Sando [13:53]

6. NFL QB Market & Draft Prospects

• Only a handful of teams—Jets, Raiders, Browns—truly need a quarterback, meaning some young QBs could sit and develop.
• Anecdotal noting of how a few good games can swing a young QB’s narrative.

7. Game Previews & Betting Angles

• Denver vs. Giants:
  High on Denver’s defense, skeptical of Jackson Dart against top opposition:

  “I would take odds on Russell Wilson passing yards. That’s how firmly I believe Dart will not finish this game.”
  — Colin Cowherd [20:55]

• Detroit vs. Tampa:
  Detroit’s home field and bounce-back potential emphasized; hosts express faith in Lions following an ugly loss.
• Various other matchups discussed with an emphasis on defensive edge and quarterback play.

8. Dodgers Dynasty?

• Lively debate about what constitutes a baseball dynasty.

  “I think if you win back to back World Series title, that kind of feels like you’re a superpower.”
  — Jason McIntyre [23:42]

• Contrast drawn between the likability of these Dodgers vs. historical dynasties like the Yankees, Warriors, and Patriots.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On the NFL’s Old vs. Young QB Dynamic:

  “It does feel like the golden era of quarterback play. Is there a reason why?”
  — Colin Cowherd [03:32]

• On Dak Prescott’s Narrative:

  “We have a Cowboy fatigue, a Dak fatigue. But you have to realize…the last time he played a full season he was second in MVP balloting.”
  — Mike Sando [06:06]

• On Ben Johnson’s Coaching Style with Caleb Williams:

  “He came out with guns blazing… he complained about Burden being [in] the training room… This guy’s kind of old school in terms of how he treats guys… that can ultimately be good for Caleb Williams.”
  — Mike Sando [07:32]

• On Baker Mayfield:

  “Is there any quarterback in the league whose guys are going to lay on the line more for him based on how he plays? I mean, I want to play for him.”
  — Mike Sando [13:53]

• On Defensive Impact at Home:

  “Defense is mostly know your assignment and play with incredible intensity. And that’s easier at home. The home crowd is all riled up.”
  — Jason McIntyre [41:14]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [04:04] Sando on why older QBs are thriving in today’s NFL
• [06:06] Sando on Dak Prescott’s real value and MVP candidacy
• [07:32] Sando on Caleb Williams’s adjustment under Ben Johnson
• [09:04] Sando’s evaluation of Bo Nix’s ceiling
• [10:11] Sando on Drake Maye’s impressive development
• [11:10] Sando on Jackson Dart’s high-contact, high-risk style
• [12:18] Sando on Baker Mayfield & Sam Darnold’s unexpected resurgence
• [13:53] Sando on Baker’s leadership and team galvanization
• [20:55] Jason & Colin on Denver’s defensive dominance at home
• [23:42] Discussion on what makes a baseball dynasty

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Additional Notes & Tone

• The episode maintains Colin’s trademark blend of opinionated analysis with a conversational, often irreverent, tone.
• Jason McIntyre brings betting perspectives and matchups breakdowns, sometimes with playful banter.
• Guest Mike Sando provides measured, data-informed assessments and direct insights from NFL circles.
• The show is fast-paced, topic-driven, and heavy on quarterback analysis—reflecting current NFL storylines.

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A must-listen for QB aficionados, NFL draft followers, and fans seeking layered context on both seasoned and rising signal-callers.

Transcript

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[Mike Sando]

I do think it's easier to play the position Colin but you know those guys who have been around a long time usually get rid of the ball and when we're talking about the worst quarterbacking in the league this year, it's Justin Fields taking nine sacks not because his protection is terrible, because he doesn't know where to go with the ball. And so these guys, if you look at Rodgers this year, quickest time to throw for him in his whole career. He's getting out, getting it out also we know just bigger picture these guys don't get hit like they used to. You know I think back in the day some of the legends, you know Kenny Stabler shows up late to the game. He's been out all night. You know he, he has a terrible first half and then he throws up at halftime. That's actually happened and then goes out and has a big second half. You can't play to longevity the way those guys lived and played. And Sable was an extreme example and a Hall of Famer. But now these guys are the best rest, the best travel. You know, they know how to take care of their body and the rules are all set up. You never see them get ear hold, you know. So it's really a great setup for these guys to play when they're older. What happened over the last few years is a lot of them retired. So we, you know, there's fewer of them now than there were four or five years ago.

[Jason McIntyre]

You know, I said this generally if the average NFL franchise quarterback career is 15 years, I always feel like mid second chapter. I got a good read on you for years I said Dak is Kirk Cousins with better mobility. But Kirk never carried this kind of roster and Dallas isn't a great team. But no CD Lamb, no number one tight end offensive line is still in a rebuild every. I mean let's be honest, they play from behind. They you have to win by track meet. I honestly feel like we're in chapter 11 or whatever year it is for Dak and I. I mean he, Zach Martin, Tyron Smith, Zeke Dak, all these changes. CD Lam, if he's upright, he wins double digit games. I think I've undervalued Dak. Or maybe the intangibles, the tangibles caught up with the intangibles. Maybe it's that.

[Mike Sando]

Here's what happens though, Colin. By the end of the year when they lose in the first round of the playoffs or don't make it, that's what goes into our mind is like, hey, we discount Dak because he's had good years before and it never leads him anywhere. And so I think that's what happens. We have a Cowboy fatigue, a Dak fatigue. But you have to realize the last time he played a full season he was second in MVP balloting. That was 2023. So he's played really well here, has before. But I think it has been a little bit of a, a different level for him here. Maybe a little bit under McCarthy and now under Schottenheimer.

[Jason McIntyre]

Yeah, you know, I want to talk about some young quarterbacks. So you know, Caleb's in year two, but Ben Johnson has a pretty sophisticated system. There's a lot of new guy burden. Luther Burton's new, Loveland's new. They haven't used him much. Ben Johnson systems new. The staff is new. And so I look at Caleb and I'm like, what? My eyes tell me this, Mike, he is playing within structure more than last Year, it's more of an intentional offense. I can see the game plan, but I made this argument this week. Bo Nix may never throw a deep ball and Caleb may never be really consistently accurate. I mean, that's what I see is that he's playing with Instructure to a degree, but he's still struggling with. I mean, Brady couldn't move. There are no perfect quarterbacks. Where do you see Ben and Caleb right now?

[Mike Sando]

Yeah, I think it's really good that it's been relatively quiet and every week's not a referendum on it because, you know, Ben Johnson came out with guns blazing. I mean, he was hard on their players and Caleb in the off season and said things like, we're watching our body language or he complained about Burden being the training room, all these types of things. And it kind of got my attention, like, whoa, this guy's kind of old school in terms of how he treats guys. And I think that can ultimately be good for Caleb Williams because, you know, he probably hasn't had that. He probably hasn't had somebody. He's always been the star. It's always come pretty easy for him. And so now he's got this coach who's tough and going to hold him to it. I think what we want to see over time is, and I can't tell fully yet is how much are they setting up the offense. So Caleb can function with whatever his weaknesses are versus how much can he really go in the direction Jared Goff went and really, really flourish as the, you know, in the system. I think we've seen some signs that it is a little bit more within the system. He still has a really long time to throw. I mentioned that for Rodgers, you know, one extreme. Caleb, I think is. Is, you know, still, on average, his time to throw is maybe second or third slowest in the league. So it's a mix, it's a process. But I love that it's not every week he's in the headlines.

[Jason McIntyre]

I'm going to ask you about three young quarterbacks. Let's start with Bo Nix. Last week in London, I thought Sean was. Body language told me he was visibly frustrated with Bo Nix. Where are you on Bo?

[Mike Sando]

Yeah, I think it's been a little underwhelming this year. I was very high on what I saw last season, especially late in the year, and all of the quarterback tears, feedback I got, most of it was from people in the league was, wow, let's see where this can go with Sean Payton. I still kind of feel that way, but it feels like it's been a little underwhelming for a while. He was a little all over the place, a little undisciplined. You mentioned throwing the ball down the field. He still has a really low yards per attempt both years. His explosive play rate is pretty low. So I guess I need to see how much he can do beyond the system still. And that's fine. I think he's a solid starting quarterback, but I wouldn't really move him ahead of high tier 3 at this point. Would you?

[Jason McIntyre]

No, no, no. I think that's right. Drake May now that's different. He's bigger, got a better deep ball arm like Bo Nix. Moves very well. Are you surprised he's this good this quickly with all those free agents? Draft picks are playing brand new staff. There's a lot of moving parts here. I mean this team spent 280 million bucks on free agent. You got five, six new starters. Are you surprised?

[Mike Sando]

Very pleasantly surprised on Drake May. You know, I think that there were positive signs as a rookie but all the discussion was, well, kind of hard to judge him because it was so bad around him. I know they spent a lot of money in free agency, but still nine out of 10 people in the league thought that's a really bad roster coming into this year. You can't buy a team in free agency normally anyway. You can make yourself a little bit better. So I think he has shown, especially the last couple weeks, some really, you know, higher level stuff, some of the off schedule stuff's been kind of special. We he seems to have the right makeup for all of this. So I'm really encouraged. I think he's somebody that's probably ahead of where thought he would be.

[Jason McIntyre]

I think Jackson Dart feels a little better story than player right now, but he plays with confidence. I think the story is great. It's New York. I just saw something last night when I was going to make my picks that, you know, Russell Wilson actually was averaging more yards of play than Jackson. But the story is way more interesting with Jackson Dart. Where are you on Jackson?

[Mike Sando]

Yeah, well, Jackson's first start they averaged like 3.6 yards per play and everyone was super excited. So I think he can definitely throw the ball. I do like the energy. I do think he has a chance now. I was he, he, he takes too much contact. Okay. I think 37% of his plays, which is a really high. I think Justin Fields is the only one higher are, you know, like a sack, a designed rush, getting hit after you throw the ball, a scramble and that. That's okay if you're Lamar Jackson and you know how to wiggle on these hits and you're a really great runner who just doesn't get lit up. This guy, you know, goes out there and just gets hit in the chin. I mean, he's out there downfield stiff arming, you know, somebody with his throwing hand, and we're. He's laughing about it after the game, and it's kind of fun. But that's a lot of contact without rolling with the punches. Right. He's taken shots, and I think that's not sustainable. So that's my one concern with him.

[Jason McIntyre]

Okay, finally, let's wrap it up with this. Did you ever think Baker Mayfield or Sam Darnold were going to be this good?

[Mike Sando]

No. I thought Baker Mayfield could be good, but I didn't think he'd be this good because he was a number one pick who got hurt, you know, and so I always thought that there was something there. It was kind of weird how they bailed on him so fast. But Darnold for sure seemed to be, you know, done. I thought before he went to the 49ers, and there were people that I know who had, you know, been with him before and liked him, but just didn't see this coming. So the first person that told me, look out for Darnold was Randy Meer. He's with the Saints now, but we used to do a podcast together, and he saw him with San Francisco and was like, look out. This is going to be a reclamation story. And it's been totally right. But what he's doing in Seattle, I think is another level ahead of what he did in Minnesota.

[Jason McIntyre]

Yes.

[Mike Sando]

You know, and it's like, that's kind of surprising me. You would have thought with this Seattle team, hey, they traded DK, Metcalf, McDonald. Mike McDonald's got this defense going, but they're going to have to carry him. They don't even have much of a run game. Their defense has been up and down with injuries, and the one constant has been Darnold looking like a tier one quarterback. It's awesome for them.

[Jason McIntyre]

Yeah. And also they're the second youngest offense. I said this two weeks ago. Minnesota had Justin Jefferson, the great coach, your left tackle, you know, tight end, play Seattle's kids. And we didn't even know if JSN was. Was a number one like this. That's walking into a new system with a second youngest offense, the Green Bay. And I mean, that Baker game was one of the best quarterback duels I've seen. It's like a Manning Brady game.

[Mike Sando]

It totally was. It was, it was, it was really, really incredible. I just, I feel like I'm totally betting on those guys. As far as Baker, is there any quarterback in the league whose guys are going to lay on the line more for him based on how he plays? I mean, I want to play for him. You know, I'd run out there and take a huge hit over the middle right now for that guy. Just the energy he brings. I love it.

[Jason McIntyre]

Yeah. Unique personality. Mike Santo, as always. Love your work at the Athletic. Senior writer. We love his stuff. Mike, thank you so much.

[Mike Sando]

Hey, thank you.

[Jason McIntyre]

Yeah, it's, there's, it's between the old guys hanging in there and playing well. Flacco, Rogers and Stafford and the young guys like Drake May hitting. You know, I said this, this next draft, if you had four guys in the first round that could play, you get to a saturation point. There's not that many teams. Jets need a quarterback, Raiders need a quarterback. Cleveland needs an absolute quarterback. Now the Rams may draft one and sit him behind Stafford for a year or two. But I mean, the jets, the Raiders and the Browns absolutely need a quarterback. But I mean, I watch Bryce Young, I'm like, you know what? Now they got him a number one receiver. They got a little bit of a running game. They got him an offensive coach. It's something. I think some of the teams that draft a quarterback don't necessarily need them now, but they, you know, their quarterbacks getting older, like Pittsburgh, you could see them drafting a quarterback with Aaron Rodgers. Maybe not first pick, second, third pick, but there, there, there's only a handful of T. I mean, Spencer Rattler, New Orleans, why not? I mean, they're not a Super bowl team this year or next. Let's just, let's just, let's see if it meshes. Let's just let him play. What if Spencer Rattler outplays Caleb Williams this weekend? All it takes about three games. I mean, Jackson Dart's first game, everybody fell in love with him. And you're like, yeah, yards per play was only. Listen, you can change the narrative with a big road win or back to back, late game wins, young quarterback. Everybody in the building's like, that's our guy. Be sure to catch live editions of the Herd, weekdays at noon Eastern, 9am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, FS1 and the iHeartRadio app.

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[Colin Cowherd]

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[Mike Sando]

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[Ed Helms]

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[Mike Sando]

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[Colin Cowherd]

All right, Colin, let's start with that big game, Denver and the New York Giants. Oh, my goodness. Everybody's fired up about Jackson Dart and his wingman Cam Scatterboo. They're calling him Arm and Hammer. I think you like that nickname. Anyway, Broncos linebacker Jonathan Cooper knows they got a bottle up Dart. You can't let them get off to.

[Mike Sando]

A good start once you played enough.

[Snax]

In this league and you've seen enough good quarterbacks. You know, we played one of the best quarterbacks twice a year, every single year. So once you go against that, you kind of get a feel of the game and you know, you know what you need to do. You gotta make them feel uncomfortable in the pocket. Can't let them get that confidence and that ego going.

[Jason McIntyre]

So you just gotta take care of that. Yeah, I don't think Jackson Dart's gonna have one of his better outings. So.

[Colin Cowherd]

So tell me why on the look ahead line, you know, we consult those sometimes. Before last week's games, The Broncos were -10 against the Giants in this spot. Then it was readjusted to minus seven and a half and now down to seven. Why? If you and I are so obvious on this one, what are other people seeing that maybe were not on the Broncos and Giants?

[Jason McIntyre]

A lot of Bo Nick skepticism.

[Colin Cowherd]

Well, don't forget Dark did just beat Philadelphia. I mean, 34 points on the Eagles, that was shocking. Nobody had that.

[Jason McIntyre]

And I told you, when they beat Philadelphia and went to London, I told you the jets was a stay away game. Do not bet that on Denver. I said, here's a team, they're still trying to find their way offensively. They beat Philly. Stay out East. I'm like, this doesn't feel good. Like, I like Jacksonville over the Rams. Rams stayed out East. I'm like, nah, that's Jacksonville they go to. They go to London all the time. So I don't know. There are just games to me that are stay away. But I am all in, all in on Denver this week.

[Colin Cowherd]

Let me ask you one other thing. Darts superpower right now is basically just running around like a chicken with his head cut off. That's what he does in the pocket. Colin, you don't have neighbors to bail him out. Is that going to work against the number one defense in the league?

[Jason McIntyre]

No, I don't think I Don't see a hole with this defense. I think Denver's defense is best in the league, home or away.

[Colin Cowherd]

I would take odds on Russell Wilson passing yards. That's how. How firmly I believe Dart will not finish this game. I think the Broncos could really corral him. Let's move on to Detroit. Colin, that was a tough loss for the Lions against Kansas City. You know, safety Brian Branch did the nonsense afterward and he's suspended for this week's game against Tampa. Despite the turmoil, Dan Campbell says this group is locked in for Baker.

[Jason McIntyre]

It's our players, our players. You know, we got good group of guys are competitive. They're again, they're a resilient group. They know how to overcome adversity. They don't like losing and they go back to work to, to fix the things that need to be fixed. You know, we got a couple of things to clean up and we're going to clean them up this week. I like, I like Detroit in the spot, good teams off, ugly losses, rebound.

[Colin Cowherd]

So it's interesting. I'm looking. The Lions are 4 and 2. They were 15 and 2 last year. Already two losses. Listen, Baker Mayfield, who knows what's going to happen? Obviously, the Lions are not as good as they were last year. We saw that coming, but I don't know. Colin, do you have concern? Kirby Joseph, the defensive back, is tweeting out complaints about refs all week. Brian branches out. Are we too high on Detroit this week?

[Jason McIntyre]

I think Detroit's going to control the ball on the ground. I think they're going to win time of possession. I think Baker will watch long stretches of this game. I think Detroit, I don't think right now they're, they're taking the ball away. That's the one thing they're doing. Green Bay is not. They are. And I think Baker does sometimes have what they call turnover worthy plays. I. You get one if you have one pick on the road. As a road team, the, the chances of you winning a game go down precipitously. Yeah.

[Colin Cowherd]

And Detroit, we know we talk about splits a lot. Detroit at home is a juggernaut with this, with your golf and Campbell, they just, they really are almost automatic. I like Detroit as well. Final story. Colin, let's go to Major League Baseball. You like to say Shohei Ohtani is the best you've ever seen. How about Mookie Betts at shortstop? He made a tremendous play last night. This is his first year playing short and he was named a finalist for the Golden Glove two days ago.

[Jason McIntyre]

Also a Great ball bowler, hits for average and power, can run. I mean, there, there's a legitimate argument that Ohtani and Mookie Bets are the two best players in baseball and they got in from the Red Sox and in that trade they didn't, you know, they gave up pros, I think prospects, some players.

[Colin Cowherd]

Yeah.

[Jason McIntyre]

And not very damaging to the Dodgers. They won that trade.

[Colin Cowherd]

I'm gonna ask you, you mentioned, I think you said the D word dynasty in regard to the Dodgers earlier. So if they go back to back, they've kind of got the start of something, right?

[Jason McIntyre]

Yeah, I, I think in baseball, I think in basketball you need three. In football you need two. In baseball you need two. Because of the arm injuries that baseball suffers. I think if you win back to back World Series title, that kind of feels like you're a superpower. I think in basketball it's star driven. You got to win three. Like when the warriors had kd, that just felt different than everything else in the league. But like in NFL because of injuries and baseball because of pitching injuries, it's when you're going into long post seasons, there's a fatigue and injury concerns. I mean, the Dodgers now, if they made the playoffs 13 straight years, I think, I think it's 12, 13 or 13 straight, you win back to back World Series titles. What's remarkable and frightening is, I mean, I think if you asked Dodger fans, they had major concerns about the bullpen pen. Yeah. Reds, Phillies and now Brewers. Non factor, non factor. So.

[Colin Cowherd]

So the other thing is you got Bets who's moved to shortstopping as a star. You got Otani. You mentioned those other dynasties. People did not like the warriors when KD went there, they could not stand them. People did not like the Patriots on top for two decades. The Chiefs start dominating and it's like, ah, come on, I'm sick of these guys. Oddly, this Dodgers dynasty, it feels likable. Now I'm here in la, so I feel like everybody loves him, but I don't see a lot of nationwide pushback like all the Dodgers. I'm sick of them. I know what the Yankees, when they were a dynasty, the evil empire, everybody did not like the Yankees. Am I wrong? The Dodgers team is like a likable potential dynasty.

[Jason McIntyre]

Well, they don't, they don't have an unlikable player. I mean, again, Mookie and Ohtani and who doesn't like Freddie Freeman? They don't. They, you know, I mean, listen, people resent wealth and they're the wealthiest franchise and their ownership group is Willing to spend the most money and defer payments. But we've said this before, it's not just about money with them. You go look at the trades, they always win. They could have spent on Machado, they didn't. Zach Granke, they didn't. You know, they have been ahead on guys like Yoshi and Roki. They've been like years ahead in the planet. It's, it's, it. I think it's the best run. It's not just money. You know, the game day revenue of the jets is much higher than the Jaguars. Okay. Jaguars at least are competent. So it's not just a money issue. Big markets right now are not doing particularly well. I mean the NBA, the Lakers, the last. I mean if LeBron doesn't go to the Lakers, they may have a nine year run of.

[Colin Cowherd]

Yeah, but by the way, another dynasty. Houston Astros. Remember when they were cleaning up those cheaters? Nobody liked those guys.

[Jason McIntyre]

That's right.

[Colin Cowherd]

People don't like dynasties. We're conditioned in America. Did not like dynasties. 60s but I'm just telling. I think this Dodgers one is a little different.

[Jason McIntyre]

Yeah, so do I. Road attendance is great for them as well. J. Mac with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by the herd line news. Yeah. Yesterday I had an incredibly reasonable take that USC should go to Notre Dame, renegotiate the contract, play them every other year and play them early because USC now in a much better conference has so many roadblocks to the playoffs that USC should look at what Nick Saban did at Alabama which is yeah, we're not adding hard games when you're in a, you know, sport defining conference. Nick Saban, took him a couple years to figure it out. Like we're not going on the road for out of conference games. We'll do a neutral field. We're not going on the road. And so I don't think it's, I think it's completely realistic to say Notre Dame will play every other year. But it's going to be early. We don't want to be in the heart of our Big Ten schedule. Well how about this? We open with Notre Dame every other year. We'll open. How about we first or second game, we open. Okay, that's that that you can come out and do some recruiting in la. We're not putting you in the middle of our Big Ten schedule. That apparently is outrageous to Notre Dame and USC fans. We'll open with you every other year. We're just not going to play it right after we, we went to Columbus and, and lost four starters in a physical game because of injury. And then we got Oregon in two weeks. We're not putting you there. I mean, I. You got to get over this traditional stuff. It's got to make sense for both schools. It makes sense for the cold weather program that's in a lousy conference. It doesn't make sense for USC to play in November anymore against the Irish. That's dumb. Dave Wanstadt earlier on the Notre Dame SC rivalry. I coached at USC for three years.

[Colin Cowherd]

And we played Notre Dame.

[Jason McIntyre]

Every Notre Dame back then was a.

[Colin Cowherd]

Big rivalry, but it was.

[Mike Sando]

It was Notre Dame and ucla, and that was it. I totally agree with you.

[Jason McIntyre]

I mean, the chips are in USC's hands.

[Mike Sando]

I mean, USC is.

[Colin Cowherd]

I mean, Notre Dame can play Army, Navy.

[Mike Sando]

They can schedule who they want.

[Jason McIntyre]

USC is not getting away from Oregon or Michigan. Yeah, this show literally gives rational opinions and faces unrivaled criticism. I don't even know how. My opinion is not the standard. We'll play every other year. It's got to be the first game of the year. By the way, the sport would love it. Wouldn't that be great? August, Labor Day weekend, Notre Dame, usc. Every other year. Hell, if you want to make it every year, it's fine. But because we're in the Big Ten and you're in that softball conference, two or three games are in la. We can do that. But otherwise, USC holds the cards on this. They're in a better conference. They don't need the game. I don't think it's crazy to say every other year, first game of the year. I think it's crazy to say the opposite if you're USC. Makes no sense to play these guys. November 12 every year, regardless of where it's at. JMAX picks around the corner. It's the Herd. Be sure to catch live editions of the Herd, weekdays at noon Eastern, 9am Pacific.

[Ed Helms]

Hey, it's Ed Helms. And welcome back to SNAFU, my podcast about history's greatest screw ups. On our new season, we're bringing you a new SNAFU Every single episode.

[Colin Cowherd]

32 lost nuclear weapons. You're like, wait, stop.

[Mike Sando]

What?

[Jason McIntyre]

Yeah. Ernie Shackleton sounds like a solid 70s.

[Ed Helms]

Basketball player who still wore knee pads.

[Mike Sando]

Yes.

[Ed Helms]

It's going to be a whole lot of history, a whole lot of funny, and a whole lot of guests. The great Paul Scheer made me feel good.

[Mike Sando]

I'm like, oh, wow.

[Ed Helms]

Angela and Jenna, I am so psyched you're here.

[Jason McIntyre]

What was that like?

[Colin Cowherd]

For you to soft launch into the show.

[Ed Helms]

Sorry Jenna, I'll be asking the questions today.

[Colin Cowherd]

I forgot whose podcast we were doing.

[Ed Helms]

Nick Kroll. I hope this story is good enough to get you to toss that sandwich. So let's see how it goes. Listen to season four of SNAFU with Ed Helms on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Snax]

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[Jason McIntyre]

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[Snax]

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[Jason McIntyre]

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[Snax]

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[Jason McIntyre]

All right, J. Mac, a couple of winners last week. We were both doing very, very well with our picks. It's, it's a good I, I thought last week was I don't like these dual Monday Night Football games. I think they hurt the Sunday package. Now I, I, I do like waking up on Monday morning and having a Bears Washington game. But this weekend I, we have two Monday night games. But I really like some of the matchups. I think they're really, really interesting. I like Bo Nick's going to against Jackson Dirt. What about Rattler Caleb Williams? I like the young quarterbacks meeting.

[Colin Cowherd]

And you got the the London game to start it so you're stretched really thin. Two Mondays.

[Jason McIntyre]

I like the London game. I like getting on the treadmill in the morning, having a cup of coffee and sit there for an hour. And I got a football game. I, I, I like the London game.

[Mike Sando]

Okay.

[Jason McIntyre]

I would take a London game over a second Monday night football game any day of the week. No problem at all. Gives me something to do.

[Colin Cowherd]

Okay.

[Jason McIntyre]

And I can also make excuses. Oh, I can't Go to the store. I can't do that. I got work.

[Colin Cowherd]

Have to.

[Jason McIntyre]

I got to entertain America on Monday. I mean, I gotta work. All right. Week seven in the NFL Bengals Steelers started out the week with a shootout. We call it tomorrow's headlines today. J. Mac Dolphins at the Cleveland Browns. Both of us apparently like this game.

[Colin Cowherd]

We've talked about it all week. You know, Cleveland at home is really beastly. Miami is reeling. The headline for Browns Dolphins Sunday will be it's raining, it's pouring, the Dolphins aren't scoring. I think TUA struggles in this one against this nasty Cleveland defense. I don't know if you saw the video, Colin. The media was asking Miles Garrett, hey Miles, you haven't had a sack in three games.

[Jason McIntyre]

I saw that.

[Colin Cowherd]

And Miles was like really? Are we doing this? I would not be shocked if the Browns came out and made a major statement here. By the way, side note, it's fun that we have our first battle of left handed quarterbacks in 19 years. We haven't had that since I think was like Mike Vick versus Chris Sims back in the day. But we know the weather's. This is not going to be visually appealing. Okay. This is probably 16 to 6 or 17 to 9 something very low scoring, 40 mile an hour winds. I think Dylan Gabriel gets his first dub. And Miami, Miami's run defense has been gassed. Rico Dowdle carved him up. And then Vidal. I don't even know his first name. Kimani. Is that it? They kicked Vidal on the Chargers went nuts. It's like what is Judkins going to do? He's a promising rookie. I like the Browns here easily.

[Jason McIntyre]

Tomorrow's headlines today. This is a stay away game for me. Patriots at the Titans. New England's been on the road for a while. That worries me.

[Colin Cowherd]

But Tennessee's awful third straight road game for young Drake. May, I know you love him. Listen, we've liked the Patriots a lot this season. This season we took them last week against the Saints. However, the headline for Titans Patriots will be hey Mike, remember the Titans Vrabel loses winning script. I'm going outright upset. Tennessee shocks the New England Patriots and Mike Vrabel. Now I know that much is being made. Not only is this a revenge spot for Vrabel, Colin. But this is also a revenge spot for Drake May. Remember last season he lost in overtime to Tennessee. May was like making some things happen. Lost to Mason Rudolph in that one. I'm sorry, this is just on principle. This is one of those you fire the coach, you kind of Got to look to bet him right now. Nobody's touching the Titans. You know how you look at those bet splits where it's like, oh yeah, 80% of the tickets. This could be like 85% on a road favorite of a touchdown. So I've got to go with Cam.

[Jason McIntyre]

Ward on principle here.

[Colin Cowherd]

I will say this, the kids sweat. The defensive tackle from Texas, he had been missing in action. He's back. You pair him and Simmons pressure up the middle. I think Tennessee. You got to go with an upset somewhere. Give me Tennessee outright.

[Jason McIntyre]

All right, let's go to the mile high city. Tomorrow's headlines. Today, Broncos yuck in London. They're back home against the Giants. What say you?

[Colin Cowherd]

I know a lot of people are like, this is a garbage guy. I don't want to. Why I don't. Broncos, Giants. Come on, Jackson. Darty's got no chance. You're right. The headline will be hey Boo boo. Let's go get us a picnics basket. Little cartoons there for you, Colin, and no laughter. But I guess you weren't a big fan of Yogi Bear back in the day. Give me the Broncos big here. I think this is one of the easier picks of the week. Sorry. I've seen the Giants on the road with their rookie quarterback. It ain't pretty. What do they have five straight turnovers against the Saints. That was a Saints defense in a dome. Now you go outdoors at elevation, by the way. Giants riding high with arm and hammer. You know they were celebrating all week in New York City. Going to meet meeting models left and right. Scatter Boo and Dart. You know, these two young promising guys, I think they're getting a little high in their own supply here. And Denver off a not impressive performance against the Jets. Sean Payton gets a group together. This smells like 27 to 28 or something. Ridiculous. I think the Broncos handle them. Remember we talked about it earlier this hour. Broncos were minus 10 in this spot a week ago. Yeah, and all of a sudden it's seven. I think that's an overreaction. Give me Denver.

[Jason McIntyre]

So this game is my sixth game. I like the Colts until I heard Joe Alt, Khalil Mack and Quentin Johnson could all play. Now I'll take the Chargers because they listen, they. They needed a play of the year by Herbert to beat the awful Dolphins. So what say you? Tomorrow's headlines? Today the Colts, who are just at sofi to face the Rams, take on the Bolts.

[Colin Cowherd]

Another long road trip to the best coast for Shane Steichen and Daniel Jones. This is a tough One low spread. Chargers banged up. The headline will be her Beauty and the beast. Colts find themselves in hairy situation. Give me Jesse Minter and the Chargers defense confounding the Indianapolis Colts. Colin, I like the Chargers here to win outright. Like we talked about. This is second trip west for the Indianapolis Colts and they ended up losing to the Rams. It was a tough one. The kid Mitchell had that goofy fumble out of the end zone. But like you said, the Chargers are getting healthier. And I'll be honest with you, Colin. I think the Colts, you know, kind of maxed out two weeks ago and I looked at their schedule. They, they beat up on Miami, who's 1 and 5. They beat Tennessee, who's 1 and 5. They beat Arizona, who's 2 and 4. I mean who's. Who's next on the schedule?

[Jason McIntyre]

Who. They gave up nine big plays. Jacobe Brissette had success down the field. So that Arizona game was a at home was a go either way game.

[Colin Cowherd]

And I looked into that. How do they give up nine big plays Because Marvin Harrison left injured with a concussion. So here's what happened. They, they lost Ward, their good cornerback who was on the Niners. They lost him in warm ups. They had to thrust in this dude named Edwards who played at two lane last year. He got absolutely cooked by Zay Jones like five times. I mean it was bad. And now he's got to face either lad McConkey or Quinton Jefferson. I'm just, I think the Chargers win this. I think the Colts. I was stupid to pick them last week at the top of the market and I. Unless Jonathan Taylor goes for like 200 yards on the ground, I think the Chargers have this one. I'm going with Justin Herbert who I think is getting close. Man, from what I've seen from him this year, Colin with no offensive line, I think he's right there knocking on the door as the 6 best quarterback in the league.

[Jason McIntyre]

Finally, tomorrow's headlines. Today this will be a good Monday night game. Big matchup. The relentless Baker Mayfield in the Bucks go to Detroit off a thumping at the hands of the Chiefs.

[Colin Cowherd]

Yeah, so the injury reports are key in this one, but also Dan Campbell off a loss. Oh, he. You know he's got that locker room fired up. The headline for Bucs Lions will be raw over ARR. Lions take Bucks down a peg. Give me Dan Campbell and Jared Goff in a revenge spot here. Colin off a loss. The combo of Goff and and Dan Campbell are 20 and eight against the spread. They just bounce back as Good as anybody. They're at home. This has ticked up now to six. It was four and a half earlier in the week. I know everybody likes the Tampa story. And Jason, you keep picking against Baker.

[Snax]

He.

[Colin Cowherd]

He keeps making you look like an idiot. I'm sorry. I got to go back to the well again. By the way, no Abuka this week, no Godwin, no Evans. It doesn't sound like. So now you're throwing to like Tez Johnson, the guy who caught a touchdown.

[Jason McIntyre]

On the road in one of the best home advantages in the league with a team that's in a bad mood.

[Colin Cowherd]

Yeah. You know that Detroit crowd is going to be real boozed up. They're going to be looking for blood here. Now the back end of the Detroit defense has me concerned. Mahomes did kind of toy with them. So I think Baker will have some moments. And Baker beat him last year in Detroit as a big underdog. But I think the Lions bounce back here. I'll go like 31, 20. Detroit wins.

[Jason McIntyre]

My fate, my favorite two bets. I think my Lions bet was my favorite bet. And I do think, I do think the Denver defense, Jackson Dart. It's again, it's. It's defenses. I've always had that I could be wrong on this. But I bet if you went to the last 20 years and looked at the best defenses, why are they always a little better at home? And I think a lot of it is. Dave Wanstadt said this earlier offense can be dictated by weather matchups.

[Mike Sando]

Right.

[Jason McIntyre]

But defense is mostly know your assignment and play with incredible intensity. And that's easier at home. The home crowd is all riled up. When you get a sack on the road, the crowd doesn't cheer. When you get a sack at home or an interception at home, the crowd goes crazy. So like Cleveland's defense is good at home. Watch out.

[Colin Cowherd]

Yeah.

[Jason McIntyre]

By the way, rams defense at SoFi, which isn't a great home field advantage. So I tend to think when you, when you get these excellent defenses like the Broncos and then that you have to play high altitude football in Denver and they're at home. That is a. I would be shocked if the Giants won.

[Colin Cowherd]

Denver number one in pressure rate. They have 30 sacks. Look at the stats on the screen at home. They're impenetrable. I know the opener against Cam Ward, they didn't cover and they didn't look great. That was the opener. Guys. Let's relax. Bo Nix is a question. Maybe Abdul Carter has a monster game and that Giants front wakes up. But again, short of Bo Nicks imploding. I think the Broncos roll.

[Jason McIntyre]

Mike Sando, senior writer for the Athletic, joined us this hour. He's great. I asked him his thoughts on several players. I went through a bunch of young quarterbacks and here's Mike Stando on what he sees with Bo Nicks.

[Mike Sando]

I think it's been a little underwhelming this year. I was very high on what I saw last season, especially late in the year, and all of the quarterback tears, feedback I got, most of it was from people in the league, was, wow, let's see where this can go with Sean Payton. I still kind of feel that way, but it feels like it's been a little underwhelming for a while. He was a little all over the place, a little undisciplined. You mentioned, you know, throwing the ball down the field. His explosive play rate is pretty low. So I guess I need to see how much he can do beyond the system still. And that's fine. I think he's a solid starting quarterback, but I wouldn't really move him ahead of high tier 3 at this point.

[Jason McIntyre]

Yeah, I would not. I think he's. He's got absolute strengths. He doesn't get sacked. He's got wheels. He moves very, very well. He's coachable. He's very accurate under 15 yards. But the roster's got some deep threats. Cortland, Sutton and Mims are built to be over the top. Franklin is too. So I think when you look at their personnel, Bo Nix has been underwhelming. But I also think Sean Payton demands a lot from quarterbacks. I just think he does.

[Colin Cowherd]

Can I ask you, Colin, if the salaries were equal, okay. Who would you rather have over the next four years? Kyler Murray or Bo Nix?

[Jason McIntyre]

Bo Nix. That was quick, too.

[Colin Cowherd]

Okay. Don't even have to think about it.

[Jason McIntyre]

Give me another one.

[Colin Cowherd]

Bo Nix. Oh, I was going to say Justin Herbert, but that's obviously unfair. Okay, how about the Sam Darnold or Bo Nixon salary? Not who?

[Jason McIntyre]

Sam Darnold. Very workable contract. He's bigger, stronger, more athletic, and Sam's on a two year heater. I take Sam Darnold, but I love Sam Darnold. Yeah, Give me one more.

[Colin Cowherd]

Okay. Oh, one more. Drake May or Bo Nix. Next five years. Interesting. I need. I need you to rank quarterbacks. I'm trying to plant this all the time, bro.

[Jason McIntyre]

I like what I'm saying about Bo Nix is he is absolutely a franchise quarterback. People are pushing back. No, no, he is. But you're right. I think Drake May has a higher ceiling. I think he did when he came out of college. I think they're. I think people were split on Bo Nicks. Nobody was split on Drake. I have every single executive I talked to like Drake May. I said this on the air years ago, two years ago, Bo Nicks. It was very split. I like Bo more than the executives I talked to. And I knew Sean Payton liked him. But Drake May, everybody liked Justin Herbert. Everybody liked C.J.

[Colin Cowherd]

Stroud. Everybody.

[Jason McIntyre]

Like I. Yeah, no, no, I. CJ's. CJ's actually better. I didn't know his comp was Jared Goff, which is pocket guy doesn't move that well. I think. I think C.J. stroud moves better than we think. He just needs help up front. When he gets protection, he's really good. When he has any running game, he's pretty good. All right, we're done. First things first is around the corner. Big college football weekend as well. Tomorrow. Notre Dame USCFO oh, the Irish. 3324. Today's episode brought to you by a scent that's made a legendary comeback degree Original Cool Rush. The OG is back and better than ever. Cool Rush isn't just a scent. It's a movement kind of fragrance guys remember, ask for by name and rave about online. It's bold. It's fresh all day. Sweat protection, cool, crisp vibe that made it legendary. So whether you're heading to the gym, the office, or just trying to stay fresh all day long, Cool Rush has your back. So if you haven't tried it yet, head to your local Walmart. Grab degree Cool Rush, the fan favorite scent from the world's number one antiperspirant brand. The Toyota Certified Used Vehicle Sales event is here. It is packed with great surprises. Choose from a wide selection of low mileage vehicles all backed by Toyota, with warranties that begin on the date of purchase. Because when it comes to quality, the best new cars make the best used cars. So don't miss your chance. Find your certified Toyota today, but hurry. These Great offers end November 3rd. Toyota Certified used Vehicle Sales Event where every surprise is a great one. Inventory may vary by dealer. Participating dealers only. Comprehensive and powertrain are limited. Warranties. See tcuv warranty supplementtoyotacertified.com or your Toyota dealer for details.

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[Ed Helms]

Hey, it's Ed Helms, host of Snafu, my podcast about history's greatest screw ups. On our new season, we're bringing you a new snafu. Every single episode.

[Colin Cowherd]

32 lost nuclear weapons. You're like, wait, stop. What?

[Ed Helms]

Yeah, it's going to be a whole lot of history, a whole lot of funny, and a whole lot of fabulous guests. Paul Scheer, Angela and Jenna, Nick Kroll, Jordan Klepper. Listen to season four of SNAFU with Ed Helms on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Colin Cowherd]

This is an iHeart podcast.