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Jamie O'Hara
Now let's get this party started.
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John Middlekauff
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Colin Cowherd
Here we go, hour three. So I told the staff today, I said I want a real respected, emotional day to day soccer guy in England today. And they gave me the name Jamie o' Hara. And I'm like, I know that guy. Get that guy on the air. So it's not, it's not very often that we can do live stuff overseas, international stuff. Jamie o' Hara played Tottenham Hotspur, Harry Kane's former English Premier League team, five years, five seasons in the English Premier League. He is a talk show host for Sky Sports and Talksport. Wildly popular. Joining us now live. And I totally appreciate this, Jamie. It's remarkable how popular the World cup has been. I've watched the NFL, London's my favorite city in the world. I try to go every year and I see NFL merchandise. So we're growing. My friends have all been soccer fans, English premier for a decade. I'm quite proud as an American at the growth, at the passion as our gratitude. So this is a real moment for me and I appreciate this. I want to ask you because I love your passion. Before the game yesterday, Thomas Tuchel, before the game, what was his reputation? Because today we can beat up on him. What was his reputation before the game yesterday in England?
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Jamie O'Hara
Well, he had a fantastic reputation, Champions League winner with Chelsea. You know, he was classes and elite level manager. The manager who was going to take us over the line. You know, we had Gareth Southgate who was our guy who we got behind but we said we wanted elite level. That's what Thomas Zukal's reputation was before last night, attacking brave, you know, that was his remit of being an England manager. And then everyone saw what happened last night was disgusting.
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Colin Cowherd
Do you believe the players? The Jude Bellinghams and the Harry Kanes? Do you believe in game that they agreed with his tactical shift?
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Jamie O'Hara
No, absolutely not. He hung them out to dry. You know, I don't know if it's an expression over in America, but he absolutely bottled it. And it was like when a manager just felt falls apart in a big moment to make a big decision and the players didn't know what to do. In that moment, you need help from your manager. He has got to find a way to get something out of the team. And he absolutely killed us. He killed us. And the players had to just try and do what they could to stay in the game. You don't make a substitution in the 25th with 25 minutes to go against Argentina when they've got the greatest player on the planet in their team. We had no chance. And it was, it was just devastating. It was devastating for us in the end because we had Argentina where we wanted them.
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Colin Cowherd
What does this do? We talked about this before the match yesterday. I said, if Argentina loses, you can certainly argue nobody wins back to back World Cups. Messi's 39. It's an older team. I said, if England loses, I don't know how they wake up in the morning because this is their moment. What does this do to the English soccer culture going forward?
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Jamie O'Hara
Well, it absolutely kills us. We are in pieces over here. It is. There has been uproar throughout the country over the decision that Thomas Zugal made. The way we lost the game to let them score in the 85th and the 92nd minute to allow Messi to do.
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Colin Cowherd
We don't.
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Jamie O'Hara
And I think we played well. And that is, it's uproar because Gareth Southgate as England manager, we, we said that we needed an elite level manager to take us to the next level. So give us that elite level class as a, as a manager. And when he got the opportunity to do it, when he had the moment in his hands, he absolutely threw it away and made a decision that the whole nation asked him not to do. No one wanted him to make that decision. We would have gone out gracefully if we carried on attacking, carried on trying to do well, play well and go after them. But no, we bottled it and we fell out in disgrace. And that's what hurts the most. We didn't go out with any pride.
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Colin Cowherd
How do you explain. And listen, Spain's defense shut down Mbappe, who was virtually invisible. Spain's world class, but we don't look at Argentina defensively in Spain's class. How do you describe. How do you rationalize Kaine and Jude Bellingham not getting a touch in Argentina's box? How do you explain that?
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Jamie O'Hara
Well, the only thing I can explain with that is, is I think we were dead on our feet. I think, I think we've run out of gas. We needed other players to step up, the wingers, you know, I think we controlled the game in terms of playing. Okay. We didn't allow Them too much in the first half. But it's all about moments. It's all about fine margins. You know, when we get, when you, when you find that moment and we score, Anthony Gordon gets himself in front of. That's a defining moment in the game. After that, it's about what decisions are you going to make as a manager, as a team, Are you going to sit back, are you going to be brave and keep going? Everyone talks about bravery, about heading the ball away and sticking your neck on the line. Also being brave as a football player is about getting on the ball, dictating the tempo, like what Rodri does for Spain. You know, that's being brave. And we showed none of that. We absolutely folded and we retreated like England always do. We sit back and you come up against world class players in Messi and Fernandez, they will punish you. And it just, we can't believe it over here. We cannot believe what happened.
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Colin Cowherd
Jude Bellingham, many are insinuating that he ticked off Messi. There's other people shown video that he was unhappy with Pickford. Let's address, I mean, Jude's got a big opinion. He's a great looking guy, great player. He's done very well for himself. He's in his prime. I get a little ego. I totally understand it. That's part of his greatness. What do you make of the assertion, Jamie, that he got, he ticked off Messi, which you just, they used to say about Michael Jordan here in the States? Don't make Michael mad. Just stay quiet. What do you make of that?
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Jamie O'Hara
Don't poke the bear. Don't poke the bear. You don't do it, you know, you don't do it to Tom Brady, you don't do it to Michael Jordan, you don't do it to LeBron James. You certainly don't do it to Lionel Messi. The guy was doing nothing. He gone missing. And then all of a sudden, a massive moment where we've all seen the clip of them having a row and you just see this kind of face that Messi pulls and he's like, okay, yeah, I'll show you what I'm about. I've still got something in the locker. And look, he was always going to feature, right? I get it. Like last 20 minutes a game, it's his last World cup, you know, he's, he's gonna, he's, he's gonna go out with something. But yeah, that moment there where he's, he goes, okay, here we go, two assists after that, he come alive and you try to Keep you try. You don't poke a bear. You don't. And we did. And Argentina absolutely tucked us up in the end.
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Colin Cowherd
We, we talked about on this show that Spain, there's a lot of reasons a team can be dominant. Brazil right now is having a tough time. They're in a bit of a drought, whereas Argentina and Spain. Spain has dominated even France. And we talk about their culture and their discipline. You know, Brazil's a great deal of personality, but can be undisciplined and flashy. Spain has all the excellence without the flash. It's more about the team. It's more about we. Than me. Is your sense that whether England or Argentina won that Spain's simply in a different class than everybody else and it was inevitable that, that England was going to lose eventually. Like Argentina made a Spain.
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Jamie O'Hara
I disagree. Like, they're a great team, Spain, but they're beatable. We watch them over here throughout the, the World cup qualifiers. You know, they weren't great, they're nothing special. But yeah, look, they've, they've stepped up in this World cup and they're a fantastic side, but they're beatable. Spain, they are beatable. France didn't turn up and, you know, they made it really difficult for them. But England going into the final would have been confident of getting something from the game and Argentina absolutely will. What you've got to understand is you can be a tactical masterclass, you can have great players, but you have got to have that heart and desire on your chest, in your belly. And that's what Argentina have got more than anyone else in this world. They have got the desire to stay in. How many times have they been down in the World cup and have managed to find a way and fight themselves out of trouble to get them that? I want that more than. I want that more than tactics. I want that attitude, that mentality, that never say die attitude. I want that over tactics any day of the week. And that's what Argentina have got that no one else has.
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Colin Cowherd
I've always been a fairly conservative, realistic United States fan. I'm like, listen, I do think our technical skill is better today than four years ago. Pochettino, I think, has kind of an aggressive chest out, American vibe. I thought we got very nervous against Belgium and frankly, we're not as good as Belgium, but I'm never offended. I think our soccer fans can be a bit delusional. I mean, but I also think we're not as good as Switzerland, but we're in that class. We're not In Belgium, we're not. In Spain, we're not. We're not that class. Be as honest as you can. You will not hurt my feelings whatsoever. Maybe my audiences, but not mine. Jamie, how do you view the United States men's team now? I'm going to be optimistic that we. We won three games, and had we played starters against Turkey, we would have won four. Our goalkeeping was poor, and Belgium humiliated us. I do see growth. Do you? At all?
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Jamie O'Hara
Yeah, I do. I've. I. I watch the usa. I'm a big fan of America. I love the country. And I thought. I thought, he's done well. You poked the bear a little bit with Belgium, right, with the whole red card sending off. You know, that over here was a massive talking point, and I think you gave Belgium an emphasis to say, right, okay, you're gonna rescind the red card. Well, we're gonna go and show you that it doesn't matter. So I don't think that helped us say it, really. I think that put them upright under pressure. But I thought you were excellent. I thought you played with intensity. It was exciting. You know, the fans got behind you. Yeah, I know. Like, the game over there isn't as big as the NBA and NFL, and it's still growing. But, you know, you're talking about a country that's got 350 million people in it. You know, they will keep growing, and that country will end up. They will win a World cup eventually. The USA will win a World Cup. Whether that's in the next 10 years, whether that's in the next 50 years, the USA will win a World cup because they have got the. They've got the. The money. They. They've got the. The people, and they've got the resources to make it happen. And I thought USA had a really. I thought they'd done well. You come up against the Belgian team in a moment where, you know, European sides have shown in this World cup that they can still dominate. It's only Argentina, really, that have managed to, you know, dictate this World cup in a different way. But the European teams have really dominated. I think you also should be proud of themselves.
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Colin Cowherd
You know, I want to ask you one more thing. I was thinking about this as you were talking. Here's a big advantage. Argentina has number one. They've got a cup. Okay, They've already got one. Secondly, when you're an older player, you've made your money, you've been famous, you've reached the heights. Nobody's judging you. If you Lose. There is so much pressure in the World cup on England and on France and on eventually even Norway, that Argentina is almost, they call it in the States, playing with house money. It doesn't matter. They've got their Cup. They're all rich. And I wonder if that, that really is Argentina's greatest gift, is that there's no pressure. They're the only team now left over the last three weeks. There isn't really a ton of pressure on him. Is that fair?
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Jamie O'Hara
Yeah, absolutely. I mean, look, they're already heroes, right? They're already icons. It's the same team that won the last World Cup. They've all stuck together, maybe a couple of players here and there, but they all protect each other. They're all brothers. The country absolutely loves them. And if they went out, they, no one would have cared. They would have just been joyous of the fact that they saw Messi again at another World Cup. But the fact that they've gone and done what they've done again, it just gives them the belief to keep going. They're not the best team. They're not, but. But they've got a die hard mentality and you know what it's like in any sport. You know, if you've got nothing to lose, well, you just. It's pro caution to the wind. And they've done that in, you know, three or four of the games already, and they just don't give up. And that says something to me. There's something about that, you know, which you have to admire and you have to love. And as much as it hurts last night, you know, that we got beat by Argentina and the history around the whole situation, you have to respect the fact that that team there have got a never say die attitude, which is hard to find, that is hard to get, and they've got it in abundance.
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Colin Cowherd
The show you did today, was that the most emotional show that you've ever done as a host?
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Jamie O'Hara
Yeah, it was the worst one, I think, in terms emotionally of how I felt. The fact that we got that far, the fact that we were, you know, live on tv, the cameras were there and it was just. And the pain and the anguish of, you know, we were built up to that moment. We thought it was our time, England thought it was their time. We see France go out who we never get a result against. We go, we can beat France. We've got to get past Argentina. This is our moment, you know, this is all the times that we've been hurt by the hand of God Maradona. David Beckham getting sent off, all them moments, we thought it was our moment to get revenge and it just wasn't meant to be. So it just, it, it kills us. It hurts us over here because we're passionate fans and it's now the, the country is in mourning after the decisions that Thomas Tuchel made. And I've got to go back to the Premier League season soon and I've got. I support Tottenham, so it's just as bad watching them.
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Colin Cowherd
You're so good. Jamie o', Hara, what a pleasure for me if you just, you didn't have to do this and I'm just so honored you came on.
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Jamie O'Hara
Thank you, sir Colin, It's a pleasure, mate. Love the show. Hopefully I'll come on again.
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Colin Cowherd
Thank you, Jamie o'.
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Colin Cowherd
I got to have him on regularly. I mean, that, that is a good a. 15 minutes is we've done in a long time. Listen, Fox, if I'm done, you just hire him. Honest to God, if you get tired of me, just put that guy. Nothing against J. Mack and John and everybody else in the building. Boy, you better put Jamie o' Hara at the top of the list. God, you can just feel the anguish. You can feel the pain. And he did it with a smile. But, oh, my God, it's, you know, here in America, the Eagles lose, the Phillies, the Sixers, you got Villanova basketball, you know, over there. I mean, I guess you got cricket, but I mean, come on, that thing lasts three days. I mean, you can just feel it's just a jarring, gutting loss for the country.
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All right.
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Jamie O'Hara
No, no, no. Heard on the news.
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Colin Cowherd
This is the Herdline news.
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John Middlekauff
Well, speaking of football, Colin, you've got hard on Lamar this last week. Obviously last year was weird, led to his head coach losing his job. Well, Vegas doesn't agree with you. They, they rank Lamar Jackson second behind Josh Allen in the MVP odds at plus 800. But remember these two teams, you know, the Bills and obviously the Ravens have been super bowl favorites now for several years, right? And you know Lamar, Josh, they've never even been to a Super bowl, let alone one. One the difference though, when you look at Josh, Joe Brady has been there and he's been successful as an offensive coordinator. Now takes Jesse Minter. I know he's coach for the Ravens but he's been with Jim, right at Michigan with the Chargers new offensive coordinator. Think how many players they lost from their center to Isaiah.
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Colin Cowherd
I mean new staff, new coach. I think Tyler Lindenbaum was my favorite free agent signing. Like I there, there's some real questions here and I think you have to be honest, he is a declining runner. Now I do think he's always been better in the pocket than he gets credit for, but he is a declining runner. Attempts total yards he's not the same player that he was even two years ago.
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John Middlekauff
Yeah, I mean, I think the pressure is much. I think people think that the Bills have a much more realistic chance than Lamar and the Ravens. I love the Bengals this year. I think that they have a chance to not only win that division, but healthy. They've done. I think there are some major question marks with the Ravens now. Minter, the organization is really high level and they like him a lot. But I'm with you. I think Lamar Jackson showed some signs of kind of just being human last year for the first time in his career.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah, very true.
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John Middlekauff
Under the NBA, you know, we'll probably have to wait till week one of the NFL season to find out where LeBron James is going to play. But the. The Heat, the Cavs, and my Golden State Warriors, Colin. Are among the names that could land the King. Some warriors fans caught Kerr out in the wild driving around and prestemon getting LeBron. Check out his response.
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Jamie O'Hara
Hey, we need to get LeBron, man.
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Stu Holden
LeBron.
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Colin Cowherd
Okay, that's good.
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Jamie O'Hara
Put that on Twitter.
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Colin Cowherd
Okay, I got you. That's always the winning formula when fans come up to you is just tell them what they want to hear. They get a laugh out of it. I read a story yesterday, John, and you know, you know the Bay Area really well, lived there for a long time, that Golden State viewed themselves as an outsider. But I really do think it comes down if you want to choose team. Minnesota, Philadelphia, the choices, and I think they'd both be championship level. And you're in California and you can afford California and your family loves California. It's a winter league. That's a little bit of pole beyond Stefan and Draymond, is it not?
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John Middlekauff
And here's the other thing. In the NBA, this isn't football. It's not like you're practicing every day. He could fly home, he could do whatever he wants. I mean, what's that flight in the jet? He's taken 40 minutes. You know, I mean, in the air. So I think it's a pretty special. The other thing is, would they be the first team in NBA history to play all 82 games on national television? I mean, they would be such a rating straw. It'd be like, I sort of.
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Colin Cowherd
Well, it's an interesting team because you have Curry and Pods. Butler won't be ready to the trade deadline. Ish. Draymond, Green Porzingis back. Yaxel. Lindenborg's looked very good in the summer league. Yeah, he's looked very good. So. And then you got De Santos and somebody else off the bench. Moses Moody I think is off the bench. So you've got about a 7 person core and Lebron such a high functioning offensive player that I think it would be a fun team to watch. I don't know how good you would be defensively due to age, but I don't think pods Lindeborg is a pretty good defender. But I do think they have size with Yaxel and Porzingis and that's something they've really, it felt like they've been scrambling to find for years. So it's an interesting lineup. It may not be a championship team, but it's a playoff team.
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John Middlekauff
Well, that's why I think you know Jimmy Butler towards acl. So if you made the aggressive move, Jimmy Butler and some picks to get Anthony Davis, then you got Draymond and Anthony Davis.
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Colin Cowherd
Now that's interesting.
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John Middlekauff
Yeah. So I, I think LeBron, has he been doing a little like scouting mission, watching summer league, seeing who these teams, some extra moves because it's clearly not about the money. But I, I have a hard time seeing him living in Philly or living in Minnesota. To me, Golden State honestly has felt inevitable from the start. Off to college football. Colin, you and I, I love it. You know the Big Ten here on fox. Dominic conference with Ohio State, Oregon, Michigan, obviously the sec, you know, the acc. For a long time it was Clemson.
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Ben Mahler
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John Middlekauff
And then nil transfer portal and they kind of fell off a cliff.
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John Middlekauff
And Mario last year, really the last couple years. But last year making that finals run. I don't think there's a team where there's a bigger gap between the number one team and everyone else in their conference is Miami. So they added Darion Mensah this off season and.
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Colin Cowherd
Well, I mean literally the ACC is always had, I mean for years Florida State and that was Florida State in the ACC at that time was a dominant team. Bobby Bowden, I don't know. Yeah, they were. And then they told. And then Virginia Tech with Frank Beamer had some really good teams. And then it was Clemson for a long time. It took Dabo a few years to get it going and now it feels like it's Miami 1 and Notre Dame who's a partial member. It feels like Miami is separated. And for the record, you and I have said this before, that there are certain college football programs that the sport feels bigger when they're good. Miami, USC and Texas played big. They feel like 70% college, 30% NFL, kind of a big city vibe. So I Think Miami winning really helps college football. Makes it feel much, much bigger.
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John Middlekauff
Well, I'd be lying if I watch much Duke football over the years, But Mensa threw 34 touchdowns last year. When they, when they got Carson back in the transfer portal, I think a lot of us thought, Mario, what are you doing?
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Colin Cowherd
I did.
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John Middlekauff
And then by the end of the season, I mean, he played pretty well. Turned into a third round pick.
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Colin Cowherd
Yes.
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John Middlekauff
So the Dan Lanning, when he took over Oregon, that wasn't a good job. That was a great job. They were loaded because of Mario. Well, now Mario not only is a great natural recruiter, he can buy the guys and they got money behind it. So I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility that Miami's like the number one seed going into the playoffs this year just because the conference schedule. Well, they're going to be heavy favorites in the, basically every conference game, aren't they?
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Colin Cowherd
I think the, you know, the three teams that I look at as the best in college football this year are Notre Dame, Miami and Ohio State. They feel different. Those are the three. I think we're a little hot right now in LSU because Elaine Kiffin. Yeah, but they, they've had so many transfers, you know, you and I love the sport. When Brian Kelly, Lincoln Riley, Deion Sanders went heavy transfers for a couple years, it is, remember, if you're getting somebody from Georgia, generally Georgia doesn't want him or Georgia's not paying them. And my take is going heavy into the transfer portal. It is really hard in that first year to create sort of a chemistry and a unified front. You got so many different personalities. Some of the guys you have are offended because now a high paid guy comes in. So I think Lane Kiffin will eventually be very successful with Ed Orger on, but I'm not sure what it looks like. So I kind of think, I think it's people like Oregon a lot. I think Texas is good. I, I just, I gotta see them win big games consecutively. But I like Ohio State, Miami, Notre Dame.
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John Middlekauff
The one question with Miami would be Ohio State proved it last year. They lost all those guys to the draft a couple years ago and then boom, Orville Reese, Sonny Styles. Miami, you know, they just lost multiple pass rushers the first round. Is it going to be that seamless of a transition? Because Mario's so good at recruiting that they got two more first rounders. That to me is we just have to wait and see. And it's hard to keep up with the portal. But I'm with you, Miami, I think it's inevitable. They probably win a national championship in the next four or five years.
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Colin Cowherd
I totally agree. John Mittlekoff for the news. Well, that's the news and thanks for stopping by. The Herd lie news. Yeah. Jamie o' Hara stopped by today. That was, that was special from Sky Sports across the Atlantic. It has been. I've got to tell you, it is. I talked about this a little bit yesterday. We have a very, very crowded sports menu. I mean, we're the Cheesecake factory of sports countries. Like, we got everything and two of it and to watch. Considering the cost for this to be played all over this great country. It's Philadelphia, it's down in Miami, it's Dallas, it's Houston, it's Seattle, it's Santa Clara, it's Los Angeles, it's all over the country. And they're just the prices we're charging. The games are on tv. I mean, everywhere I go, train station, restaurant, sports location, the TVs are on everywhere in America. And I mean, I've been around the country in March during March Madness. It doesn't feel like this. And March Madness is ingrained in our culture. March Madness doesn't feel like what I'm watching right now. When I go out in public and see as many people literally on a train, on their phones, on a, on a Fox app or I'm watching the television. I mean, you go to a mall, you go anywhere in a public space and people are glued in a T. The only thing I can compare it to is really NFL playoff games where, you know, if somebody has to travel on a, on a, on a Sunday for an NFL playoff game and you go to an airport, everybody, Everybody is around TVs or if you're at the mall doing something, everybody is at Macy's around the television. It's the only thing I can compare it to. March Madness is big, but it's, you know, so a lot of people don't follow college sports like they follow pro sports. Here was just the way England lost yesterday. This whole tournament's built up to a crescendo. And then have England tactically do something that makes absolutely no sense, that even a casual American soccer fan could embrace. Here's Jamie o' Hara earlier this hour on the decisions tactically of Thomas Tuchel.
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Jamie O'Hara
Well, he had a fantastic reputation. Champions League winner with, with Chelsea. You know, he was classed as an elite level manager. The manager who was going to take us over the line. You know, we had Gareth Southgate, who was our guy who we who we got behind, but we said we wanted elite level. That's what Thomas Tuchel's reputation was before last night. Attacking brave, you know, that was his remit of being an England manager. And then everyone saw what happened last night. It was disgusting.
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Colin Cowherd
Disgusting is how. God, I would die today to be a talk show host. Take calls from Coventry, line one, go ahead. Lancashire, line two, fire away. My God. Liverpool, you're on the air. Oh, it'd be so much fun. Leicester City, go ahead. All right, Little Stu Holden from earlier. He was magnificent. It's the Herd.
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They'd given up a couple of, you know, iffy goals. So you know, to take that sort of stance tactically, you have to believe that you're going to hold on to that one nothing lead. And that is hard to wrap your brain around if you're a British football fan. Stu Holden joined us earlier and I started off just by asking 35 minutes to play up one nothing. Why go to a much more tactically preventative stance that early?
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Stu Holden
It's the moment. It's the World cup semifinal it is Argentina. You're playing against the best player in the world. And I think your instincts in that moment, if you have not been there consistently and is to say, well, this is the right thing to do is to. We've got the goal, we've got the lead. We need to defend now, and we need to give ourselves the best chance of keeping that elusive clean sheet, the zero on the, on the scoreboard. And I think the unfortunate consequence of that for England was by making, by scoring the goal. And by the way, I thought they played a really good game through 65 minutes and they get the goal and they look in a great position. But then what they did after that was what they had done in previous games. They did that against Mexico's. They were down a man. They did that in the end against Norway. And I think that Thomas Tuchel was naive to think that they could do that against not just the defending world champions, but the best player in the world, Lionel Messi. And what that did to the entire team, including himself. I was actually watching this, Colin. He had Morgan Rodgers, who was sorry. He had Marcus Rashford, one of their attacking wingers, about to come into the game, and then they scored. And so then instantly he took him back to the bench and he got the defender ready and he put the defender in. I think if he had just put Marcus Rashford in for Rodgers and said, look, we're going to get some fresh energy. Hey, Marcus, you're going to have to defend a little bit more. Argentina is going to come with it, so just be careful, defend. But by putting a defensive player in, and I think I said this during the game as well, not only did he put a defensive player in, I saw their right back, Reece James, and I thought, okay, Rhys James is going to come into the middle now where he's gone before, and they're going to keep the same structure. They just got some fresh legs defensively. And then I saw that it was a back five and I thought, oh, my gosh, we got 30 minutes to go here. What are we doing? Yeah, because you just now send the signal to the other team of, hey, we're in defensive mode. Go have at it. Try to break us down. Yeah. If Argentina see that door ajar, your back door is open a little bit. They're going to come through with not just a couple of their friends, they're going to kick that door down and they're in. And that's what they did, man. And they did not need an excuse to attack even more than they were Going to already.
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Colin Cowherd
So Argentina has scored in the 111th minute against Cape Verde, the 92nd against Egypt, 1 12th against Switzerland, and 92nd there. It's an older team. You think they would have great energy, but maybe some apathy later or just fatigue later as an older team yet. And my guess is it's patience. When you have Messi, you know, eventually you'll get the perfect feed. They play with such pa, they're never. It's interesting, when I watch Argentina and I'm viewed as a casual, what I see is sort of a methodical, patient team that knows the looks will come. That's the only way I can describe their late game goals. You tell me what you see.
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Stu Holden
Look, we were in Atlanta, 28 to 3. Tom Brady, New England Patriots, Atlanta. You know, it's that feeling though, even for England, that the Argentina is never out of it. And how do you, how do you explain that super bowl, right? A team that has been so dominant through the majority of the game and then all of a sudden you clam up and the other team forces you into that because you're looking across the way and Tom Brady's, he's starting to pick off all the little corner routes, starting to go the deep balls, he's starting to get into the zone. That's what I saw from Messi. And I think I said this around the 60, 65th minute, I said, oh, look out England. Messi's now he's just camping out on the right side of the field and he's just waiting and he's just serving and waiting for his opportunities to get into this game. And I think there was never even a thought in Messi or Argentina's mind that that game was done and it was never going to be Messi's last game because then once he gets the space he started, there was a beautiful compilation going around online of all of Messi's touches after England had scored. Yes, it is incredible, man. I've watched it five times this morning. It's like he was a guy on the mission of just starting to pull apart this defense. Even if it wasn't happening in that moment, every movement that he's doing it has set you up for the next one. And I saw an English pundit say this. They said, well, why didn't you, Mark, why don't you, man? Mark Messi, why don't you just have Nico O'Reilly come in, you know, really young, 19 year old English defender and say, hey, your only job right now for the next 30 minutes stand in, Messi. Get. Just follow him wherever he goes. Hey, Colin. You don't think anybody's tried that for the last 25 years? It's like. It's an insane thought to think that you could even mark him that way. Because imagine now if you did that, and Messi's standing on the right touchline. He's just having a conversation with you. Hey, Nick. Nico. How's your family? How you doing? You good? Yeah. Everything great? Fine. Okay. Bang. And then he's gone, and he's crossing the ball to the back post, or he's beating you on the inside. It's just. It's so hard to defend. And when I was analyzing that semifinal, I thought England had a real chance, and they did. But there was always that X factor, as, you know, with the great teams and the championship players and the greats that have played this sport, that if. If and when they want to do that, you don't have a chance. It was not a matter of if. It was always going to be a matter of when with Messi.
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Colin Cowherd
So Spain, we've talked about this, has the greatest culture and the greatest system. Youth, women's, men's, Olympic, everybody plays stylistically the same way. They all know, by the eighth grade, they all kind of know what Spanish soccer is. So the greatest system faces the greatest player. And you've called all these games. It does feel. We were talking this morning, it feels like that 2024 Kansas City Chiefs team that kept winning close games, and we never thought they were the best team, and they got to the super bowl, and then eventually they faced Philadelphia, the perfect roster, and they got bulldozed. And I watched Spain dominate Mbappe and dominate France, and I'm like, is the gig up? Can Messi do it again? Because Spain looks so thorough, Stu?
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Stu Holden
Yeah, that analogy is perfect, actually, because even, you know, when the Eagles had won the Super Bowl a couple years, even before that, this is the same as Spain. They won the European Championship just two years ago, 2024. This is a team that won the World cup in 2010. So they don't have the pressure of history, of trying to win their first. It's not been that long. It's been 16 years. So my intuition and what I see with my eyes would tell me that I do think Spain is the deserved favorite in this game, because I think it's not that they are just a collective and they are just a good team. They still have superstar players, that they have a guy. We were debating his legacy, what it's going to be Rodri. Rodri will probably end up going down as one of the best midfielders ever, yet still somehow feels unheralded in the way that when you look at, you know, different midfielders over the course of time in history, it's a guy that's won it all. They still have a superstar who is 19 years old, but. But he's even more dangerous in a game like this because he doesn't have to carry and burn the shoulder of responsibility in the same way that Messi does. And that makes him more dangerous because I see a team in Argentina that has to defend in duels and has to defend in 1v1s. And so I think Lamina Mal is prepped to potentially have his breakout game in the biggest moment in the way that Mbappe did in 2018 to win his first World cup as a teenager. But yet I will say again, every time I will analyze a game and look at it, there is just this, this X factor that you cannot. You cannot analyze and quantify in what Argentina have. And that is the weight of history and that is the weight of a feeling of a team that no matter if you are winning, that they will still be in that game. It's incredible. The underrated element is their fans. Colin. I'm telling you, in that semifinal, the France, Spain game, the atmosphere was quite corporate. I would have equated it to a Super bowl type of vibe where, you know, you have some pockets of fans, but there was never the. The emotional intensity of games that Argentina played with. And I'm thinking that maybe that's going to be the super bowl feel for what will probably be the most expensive sports ticket in the history of any sporting event on this planet on Sunday in New Jersey. But yet these Argentines, It's HELOCs, it's second mortgages, it's everything. They will spend their entire life savings to watch their team play. It happened in Qatar. There was, I think it was 80,000 in Qatar for that final and it was 65,000 Argentines. It's going to be the same scene. There's an emotional intensity to which their fans bring to the game that sports spurs on their players. They have this connection unlike anything ever. Pochettino has been hoping for that with the US fans, with, with our team. We don't quite have that In Seattle, when we went behind against Belgium, crowd was flat.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah.
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Stu Holden
Argentina, when they go behind against England, crowd comes up a level that that's going to be their X factor on Sunday as well.
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Colin Cowherd
Stu Holden done a Great job. His 21st flight is coming soon as he does Spain and Argentina. My friend, take another nap today. You've earned it. Thank you, man.
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Stu Holden
I got a lot of coffee, Colin, but I, I, I always got time for you, man. I love the way you talk about the game. It's been a fun ride. A Sunday, Sunday is going to be amazing. I can't wait for it.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah, it's, you know, I'm watching, trying to give a comp out for when I watch these Argentinian fans, a little SEC football fan, little college football craziness, you know, in a. Columbus, Ohio, lsu, Baton Rouge, Athens, Georgia. It's just, it's, it's, it's, you know, I have friends who have been Southern football fans and when they lose on Saturday, I mean they, they don't want to go to work on Monday. Like they, it breaks, it breaks people. Jamie o', Hara, the former footballer for the Premier League and a broadcaster in London, says, I asked him, how do you pick up the pieces after this loss?
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Jamie O'Hara
It absolutely kills us. We are in pieces over here. It is. There has been uproar throughout the country over the decision that Thomas Zugal made. The way we lost the game, we said that we needed an elite level manager to take us to the next level, to give us that elite level class as a, as a manager. And, and when he got the opportunity to do it, when he had the moment in his hands, he absolutely threw it away and made the decision that the whole nation asked him not to do. No one wanted him to make that decision. We would have gone out gracefully if we'd carried on attacking, carried on trying to do well, play well and go after them. But no, we bottled it.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah, it's John. England had been eliminated every time they have faced a top 10 ranked nation in the knockout stages of the FIFA World cup since 1998. So there does appear, you know, we always think in America, okay, we gotta get to the next level. There's like, there's like three levels of teams. There's the Spain level, the Argentina, the France level, there's the second level. And the question is, is England just at the top of the second level? They're not even in the first level. They can't beat those teams. So we're probably deep. Second level, very top of the third level, which is no chance to win the World cup, but we will get through the group stage rather methodically. That's where we are, I think England, we view them as the first level, but since 98, any top 10 team in FIFA in the World cup, they're out. So they, they've got some real introspection going forward.
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John Middlekauff
You know, my big take was Jamie needs to just dial into football, our football move to America and just do football sports talk. I think he would thrive. Colin. He's, he's a special talent there on the microphone over across the, the pond.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah, he is. So, yeah, I mean, it, it's like our loss is maybe painful, but we, we always kind of go, we know we're not in the top six.
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Jamie O'Hara
Yeah.
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Colin Cowherd
But we can argue we're 12th or 13th. England sees themselves as top five. And the question now is they can't beat those top five to six consecutively, even when they lead and have stars playing well. We'll see you tomorrow. Bill Belichick on All right. You know what deserves more attention? The assists. Everybody talks about the goal. A big moment that gets replayed on the highlight reel. But too often we overlook all the contributions and collabs that happen along the way. That's true in soccer and honestly true in life. Halion is shining a light on the assists. As official partner of U.S. soccer, they got a whole lineup of brands ready to deliver for you. So here they are. Sensodyne dentist recommended. Defense of your sensitive teeth. Centrum. Fueling your day with science backed nutrients. Advil, of course. Powerful inflammation fighting pain relief. Voltaren arthritis gel helps penetrate deep, keeps the joints moving and tums ready to counterattack with fast heartburn relief. These are brands that are ready to deliver your essential wellness assists. Because every goal starts with an assist, learn how Halion can assist your game day goals@helionassist.com Con this is Tony Ayo
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