THE HERD - Hour 3 - Eric Mangini stops by The Herd

Summary

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The Herd with Colin Cowherd

Episode: THE HERD - Hour 3 - Eric Mangini Stops by The Herd
Date: January 9, 2026
Podcast: iHeartPodcasts and The Volume

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Episode Overview

This episode of The Herd features a guest appearance by former NFL head coach and analyst Eric Mangini. Colin Cowherd and Mangini take a deep dive into NFL playoff narratives, the evolution of quarterback development, the pressures facing elite franchises and coaches, and tactical nuances for key playoff teams. The hour is filled with candid insights, bold predictions, and strategic analysis, maintaining Cowherd’s engaging, quick-paced and highly opinionated tone.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Evolution of Young Quarterbacks

• Colin Cowherd reflects on how high school and college football have changed, producing NFL-ready quarterbacks earlier than in past eras.

  • “It just feels like it’s a different experience gap. More games, more practices, more coaching, more tutoring, more film study now than 20 years ago.” (03:25)

• Eric Mangini discusses the learning curve for rookie quarterbacks and the expectations in year two.

  • “In year two, once they get over that learning curve, especially if you’re in the same system, you should take a significant jump... Where Drake May’s really benefited is the fact that he gets someone like Josh McDaniels and Mike Vrabel—two experienced guys.” (04:22)

Notable Quote:

“It’s really hard to be successful as a rookie quarterback in the NFL... once they get over that learning curve, you should take a significant jump if you’re of the talent level that they expected.” —Eric Mangini [04:22]

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2. Superstar Quarterbacks and Franchise Standards

• Josh Allen and the Bills: Colin and Mangini discuss how elite QBs raise the bar for whole organizations—the focus moves from regular season to Super Bowl-or-bust expectations.

  • Cowherd: “The only downside to getting a superstar quarterback is the standard changes and the standard becomes January...” (05:45)
  • Mangini: “You’re absolutely right. When you’ve got a great quarterback, the expectation is you’re going to be competing for Super Bowls every single season.” (07:12)

• Mangini notes the context of facing other elite QBs (e.g., Mahomes for Allen; Tom Brady for Peyton Manning in the past), and how playoff exits are evaluated based on performance, not just results.

  • “If he goes in and plays a great game and walks off the field with the lead, and then the defense gives up a touchdown, it’s hard to say, hey, this guy is the problem...” (07:12)

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3. Coaching Philosophy: Shanahan’s Play Sheet Flexibility

• Cowherd brings up Kyle Shanahan’s 12-44 record when trailing at halftime, proposing his inflexibility with his play sheet as the key flaw.

  • “My knock on Shanahan for years... he creates the first or second best play sheet in the league, but he’s not real flexible with it... If you’re trailing at half, he’s not going to say, out with the play sheet. That’s not who he is.” (08:04)

• Mangini agrees, sharing a story about Ron Erhardt’s “Fine 15” backup plays to counter inflexible game plans.

  • “In case of emergency, break glass, you’ve got the fine 15 that you can go to... something you know the guys can execute even without a lot of practice.” (09:08)

Notable Quote:

“If everything you thought was going to work isn’t, this is something you know the guys can go execute even without a lot of practice.” —Eric Mangini [09:08]

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4. Playoff Preview: Bears-Packers & Coaching Pressure

• Discussion on the Bears-Packers matchup: Green Bay favored despite a four-game losing streak and adverse weather, with Cowherd leaning Chicago due to run game and line play.

  • “Green Bay is favored and they’re on a four-game losing streak... Better O-line and better run game is Chicago, and the weather’s lousy.” (14:19)

• Mangini’s historical perspective: Comparing past quarterback transitions and Power dynamics in Green Bay.

  • “This has played out in the past where the expectations become gigantic because you think you have the next great quarterback... Pressure ramps up significantly.” (15:13)

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5. NFL Head Coach Openings: Harbaugh, Vrabel, Stefanski

• Hypothetical coaching carousel: Cowherd and Mangini debate which open jobs John Harbaugh should prioritize if he leaves Baltimore, referencing resource-rich spots like the Raiders.
  • “This may sound strange, but the Raiders could be very attractive... You’ve got the number one overall pick, a veteran quarterback in Geno... over $100 million in CAP money, possibly Tom Brady as a moderating influence.” (17:44)

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6. Steelers vs. Texans: The Experience Factor

• Previewing Steelers playoff chances, with Cowherd praising Aaron Rodgers’ late-season form.

  • “I give the Steelers a fighting chance against Houston, a team that settles for a lot of field goals in the red zone.” (18:52)

• Mangini’s Breakdown: Detailed play analysis from a key third-down conversion shows why experience (Rodgers, Tomlin) could be Pittsburgh’s edge—despite statistical disadvantages.

  • “The experience is going to have to carry the day here... This is going to be won by Pittsburgh. It’s going to be the experience of Aaron Rodgers... and even the experience of coaching the playoffs with Mike Tomlin.” (19:34)

Memorable Moment:

Mangini’s chalk-talk style breakdown of the Steelers’ change-up against the Ravens defense on third-and-eight – highlighting Rodgers’ ability to diagnose and exploit coverages. [19:34–22:46]

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7. Coaching Power: Should Harbaugh Get Total Control?

• Report that John Harbaugh wants $20M salary, $10M for his staff, total roster control, and a handpicked GM if he takes the Browns job.
  • Cowherd: “That’s too much power for a coach... I would be willing to give my coach a lot of money. $20 million is not ridiculous... but I’m not going to let him handpick the GM. I want him to have a say, but not ultimate authority.” (24:18)

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8. Playoff Picks and QB Narratives

• J Mac and Cowherd run down key playoff matchups, fading first-time playoff QBs in favor of experience (e.g., Packers over Bears, Rams over Panthers).

  • “There is a theme... I’m going to be fading first time playoff quarterbacks... 19-37-1, they do not do well.” (36:49)

• Detailed logic for each pick (Rams, Packers, Eagles, Chargers, Texans), blending stats, recent form, and coaching angles.

  • “Everything about this matchup for the Chargers screams success. The Patriots don’t get to the quarterback... If they can matriculate the ball down the field with Vidal Sassoon and Mr. Hampton, I think they’re going to be fine.” (38:26)

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9. Notable Statistical Nuggets

• Mike Tomlin’s tough playoff record: “Last six playoff games — 0–6 straight up, 0–6 against the spread. They’re not competitive.” (40:04)
• Rematch theory in college football: “Teams are 1–6 in the rematch after winning the first game; the one win was Ole Miss over Tulane.” (29:21)
• Shanahan trailing stat: “1–32 when trailing by a touchdown or more since he’s been in San Francisco.” (08:04)

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Selected Notable Quotes

• “When you’ve got a great quarterback, the expectation is you’re going to be competing for Super Bowls every single season. And this year, Colin, is so different. He’s the only superhero left in the AFC. Burrow’s home. Lamar’s home. Mahomes is home. He’s it. All these other guys, they’re vying for it. He’s it.” —Eric Mangini [07:55]

• “In case of emergency, break glass, you’ve got the fine 15 that you can go to.” —Eric Mangini, explaining flexibility in play-calling [09:08]

• “You get to play your brother twice. I don’t know if that’s a good thing or a bad thing. But from a pure resource standpoint and the ability to answer the quarterback question right now... you could be competitive pretty quickly in Las Vegas.” —Eric Mangini on Raiders head coach appeal [18:00]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

| Segment | Timestamp | |------------------------------------------------------|-----------| | Evolution of Quarterbacks & Year 2 Expectations | 03:25–05:45 | | Josh Allen/Bills and Superstar QB Standards | 05:45–07:55 | | Shanahan’s Inflexibility Discussion | 08:04–10:21 | | Bears-Packers Playoff Stakes and Coaching Pressure | 14:19–16:47 | | Harbaugh Head Coach Openings Discussion | 17:44–18:52 | | Steelers-Texans Matchup Breakdown (Mangini Analysis) | 19:34–22:46 | | Harbaugh’s Demands & Coaching Power Debate | 24:18–25:55 | | Playoff Picks: J Mac & Colin’s Analysis | 34:03–43:10 |

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Recurring Themes & Tone

• Candid, sharp analysis of NFL trends, especially the shifting expectations for young quarterbacks.
• Persistent focus on experience vs. hype: Are “next generation” QBs and coaches really ahead of schedule?
• Blunt evaluation of coaching authority—cautionary tales for too much power in one job.
• Betting angle: fading first-time playoff QBs; using recent trends and franchise history to inform picks.
• The tone is brisk, irreverent, and fact-filled, with both Colin and Mangini providing personal anecdotes and league stories.

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For Listeners: Key Takeaways

• The leap from rookie to year two is massive for QBs—Drake May is a case study.
• Playoff expectations are higher than ever in today’s NFL for teams with star quarterbacks.
• Coaches like Shanahan may need more “break glass” flexibility, especially when trailing.
• Leadership and roster control in NFL front offices must be balanced to avoid pitfalls seen elsewhere.
• First-time playoff quarterbacks often underperform—betting against them is historically profitable.
• Experience, especially at QB and head coach, can be a playoff X-factor—see Pittsburgh, Green Bay, Rams.

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Recommended for listeners who want expert Xs and Os, predictive insights for this year’s NFL playoffs, and thoughtful discussion of coaching strategy and league trends—all delivered with Colin Cowherd's trademark candor.

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You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. Well, it's a different world now. High school quarterback, seven on seven camps Kids come out better earlier. Tom Brady is a rookie. Drake May as a second year player, it just feels like it's a different experience gap. More games, more practices, more coaching, more tutoring, more film study now than 20 years ago. Eric Mangini was with that young Tom Brady. He now joins us live as Drake May gets ready for his first playoff game. And it does feel different. I'm, I'm much harsher on quarterbacks in year two than I was 15 years ago, you know, Peyton Manning in year two or three, you know, throwing a lot of picks. And I kind of feel like with Drake May, it's been established he's really good and he should probably win home playoff games. Or is that unrealistic in your opinion?

[Eric Mangini]

I don't think it's unrealistic. It's strange with quarterbacks because you have the Jaden Daniels experience and then you have the C.J. stroud experience where they pop in year one and fall off. And then you have other guys like Drake May and to some degree, Caleb, where in year two, after they go through that learning curve, it's really hard to be successful as a rookie quarterback in the NFL. There's all the volume of stuff that you have to learn, the volume of defenses that you face, the new environment, getting used to the longer season, it's layers upon layers which makes it challenging. But in year two, once they get over that learning curve, especially if you're in the same system, you should take a significant jump if you're, you know, if you're of the town level that they expected. Now where Drake Mays really benefited is the fact that he gets someone like Josh McDaniels, and then to some degree, not to some degree, but to another big degree, Mike Vrabel as well. So you've got two experienced guys that come in there, but Josh has such a range of experience and has dealt with so many different types of quarterbacks. He had the benefit of, obviously, Tom Brady, but others along the way where he couldn't have gotten a better situation than getting Josh McDaniels this season.

[Rob Parker]

Yeah. So. And then the other side of the spectrum is this great talent who comes from Wyoming. He's super raw for a couple years, and now we look at it and we're like, okay, so Josh Allen's over five in. In road playoff games. And I said. I said this a couple weeks ago. The only downside to getting a superstar quarterback is the standard changes and the standard becomes January. The standards no longer, you know, set Labor Day on. The standard is now January, mid January on. And I've said this, if they go down to Jacksonville and face plant and, you know, Jacksonville's good, they. They demolish the Chargers, they demolish Denver, and it's. It's 33, 20. What do you do? Move it into a new stadium with Sean McDermott, who we all know is a very capable coach. You know, like, nobody thinks McDermott doesn't know what he's doing, but I do think the standard has to change with Josh, does it not?

[Eric Mangini]

Yeah, it's interesting because there's. It depends on who you're competing against with these great quarterbacks. And with Josh, there's been the Patrick Mahomes issue. When we had Tom, you know, that was difficult for Peyton Manning and for a lot of other great quarterbacks to achieve at the level that they could have achieved at going coming out of this game. If they lose. I think it'll depend on how they lose.

[Rob Parker]

Yeah.

[Eric Mangini]

So if. If he goes in and plays a great game and walks off the field with the lead and then the defense gives up a touchdown, it's hard to say, hey, this guy, you know, this guy is the problem. The issue is if he goes into superman mode and takes a bunch of chances against a very, very opportunistic Jacksonville defense. One of the reasons they're winning so many games is because of the turnovers that they generate. Yeah, that, to me, totally different. Different equation. But you're absolutely. You're absolutely right. When you've got a great quarterback, the expectation is you're going to be competing for Super Bowls every single season. And this year, to me, Colin is so different. He's the only superhero left in the afc.

[Colin Cowherd]

Yeah.

[Eric Mangini]

Burrow's home, Lamar's home. Mahomes is home. He's. He's it. All these other guys, they're vying for it. He's it.

[Rob Parker]

Yeah. So over in the nfc, there's. Sometimes you'll see a stat and you'll be like, wow, that jumps out at you. And Kyle Shanahan's 12 and 44 when trailing at half, and you're like, how's that possible? And my take is every coach has a hole. Everybody, every human does. My knock on Shanahan for years has been he creates the first or second best play sheet in the league, but he's not real flexible with it. And if you're trailing it half, he's not going to say, out with a play sheet. We're starting. That's not who he is. And so he's tied to the play sheet. That's my only. That's all I can come up with as to why. In fact, I think we talked about it yesterday when trailing by a touchdown or more since he's been in San Francisco, they're like 1 in 32 or so. I mean, it's just an insane number. My take is he creates this majestic play sheet and he's really inflexible moving off it. Is that maybe why these numbers are what they are?

[Eric Mangini]

Yeah, it makes a lot of sense. And if you are so used to creating a majestic play sheet, you believe and you've had a ton of success with it, and you continue to have a ton of success with it, you think, okay, maybe we didn't execute it the way we should, but we're going to keep going in this direction because everything we've studied, everything we've looked at, everything we've practiced was based off of that. I remember talking to Ron Earhart, the great offensive coordinator, years ago about a situation like that. And he said he used to have a thing called the fine 15. And his fine 15 was if they went into a game with a game plan and it didn't work, and no matter how much they wanted it to be successful, it wasn't going. He had 15 plays that he could go back to even if they hadn't practiced them, that all the guys knew and they could go to and that could get him out of holes that the opponent's game plan had put him in. And I always thought that was a really interesting perspective of. In case of emergency, break glass, you've got the fine 15 that you can go to. So if everything you thought was going to work isn't, this is something you know the guys can go execute even without a lot of practice.

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[Rob Parker]

So Bears packers is fascinating. Green Bay is favored and they're on a four game losing streak. And you know, I mean the better O line and the better run game is Chicago and the weather's lousy. And so it's like to me it really plays into Chicago's favor. But Green Bay is favor. So let's just say we've talked a lot about Buffalo. Green Bay loses. I think lafleur is a very good coach, but there's a lot of talk right now he's looking for an extension. Let's say Green Bay goes and loses. My take is I think Chicago, now that Micah Parsons is hurt, I think Chicago is better than Green Bay. I really do. I think they're a better team than Green Bay. When Micah was there, one defense was notably better than the other. Then it's a coin flip. But I like I think Chicago's better. Better run game, better online, lousy weather. What if Green Bay loses What do you think your opinion would be on Monday?

[Eric Mangini]

Well, remember the history there, right? So you've got Aaron Rodgers and Mike McCarthy and Mike McCarthy was really successful, but people, he lost that power struggle. So then they bring in floor and he has back to back MVP seasons. They don't win the super bowl and now they transition to Jordan Love. They feel like Jordan Love is going to be the next Favre. Slash Rogers, he gets hot for a little while to give him the contract extension. The expectations are there. Like I, this, this has played out in the past where the expectations become gigantic because of you think you have the next great quarterback. And you know they've done this in the past. So it wouldn't surprise me if the pressure ramps up significantly. And the expectations did change dramatically for Green Bay when they traded for Micah Parsons. And you even heard it from the players. Remember early on, Colin, the players were saying, we have a chance to go undefeated. And then they lose to the Browns and then they lose to Carolina, they tie the Cowboys, all of those things. So that didn't come out of thin air. That was the talk in the building. And that to me was probably the expectation of the organization. Now they're the seventh seed. They're playing the Bears. They beat the Bears the first time. Love didn't really play much. In the second game. I, I imagine that Green Bay is probably going to win the game. My, my expectation is Green Bay ends up, ends up winning this game just because I think that, I think that they, they have the Bears number.

[Rob Parker]

Okay, Harbaugh and Stefanski. So we talked about this. If I was John Harbaugh, I would watch this weekend's games and see what happens to Buffalo. So that's what I would do. And if, if Buffalo wins or, or loses and McDermott keeps his job, then I like the idea of going to Miami where I have some control on personnel, instead of New York, where Joe Shane's been retained, even though I have Jackson Darton. Some interesting pieces because I think Vrabel may not be the GM in New England, but he's got a say. Harbaugh is not the gm, but he's got to say, you know, Joe Shane's track record is a coin flip. Not, not great. So you tell me, if you're John Harbaugh, you're top of the market. You see these eight openings right now. Let's take obviously Baltimore, let him go. Let's say Buffalo is not open. Is there one of these for Harbaugh that's attractive to you?

[Eric Mangini]

This, this may Sound strange, but the Raiders could be very attractive. So you've got the number one overall pick. Right. So you could get the quarterback. You've got a veteran quarterback in Gino who you could survive with. He could be. You always want to have that guy, you know, in the building.

[Rob Parker]

Sure.

[Eric Mangini]

Then depends on how you feel about Ashton Genti, whether or not you legitimately feel he can be the lead back. They've got the second most cap money. They've got over $100 million in CAP money. So you've got potentially the answer at quarterback. You've got $100 million to build the team in free agency. You've got Tom Brady, which I think could be a moderating influence in a very unpredictable ownership situation. There's a lot of resources to work with. You get to play your brother twice. I don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing. But from a pure resource standpoint and the ability to answer the quarterback question right now, if you feel strongly about this quarterback class, you could be competitive pretty quickly in Las Vegas.

[Rob Parker]

That's interesting. All right, you have. I thought Aaron Rodgers played really well in the second half last week, and I've defended him all year, but now he's got DK Metcalf and Gainwell and Friarmouth and he's got, he's, you know, Jalen Warren and the O line has played better than it's played in several years. I give the Steelers a fighting chance against Houston, a team that settles for a lot of field goals in the red zone. I think Tomlin is a dog, is a very good coach. He's a great motivator. I don't always love Mike Tomlin as a favorite, love him as a dog. And I think Aaron is not making any mistakes. What do you make of it? And you've got to play with Aaron this week.

[Eric Mangini]

Yeah, you must. You must love Tomlin's record on Monday night, too. He's undefeated at home. So there's that. And I think this comes when you look at it statistically and matchup wise, there's not a lot we're saying, oh, well, the, the Steelers have a real edge here. I think this is going to have to be about the old guys and the experience of it. And the Steelers are the second oldest team. You've got, you know, the longest tenured head coach. You've got the oldest quarterback. The experience is going to have to carry the day here. And, and this is the play that I'm going to show you is a really good Example of this against Baltimore last week, it's the third and eight that leads to the touchdown where they eventually end up taking the lead. And what you're going to see here is Baltimore is disguising, they're showing a five down look. They walk the two linebacker types up, so they're showing, hey, we're going to pressure. And then outside with the defensive backs, they're doing a good job here of showing press man to man coverage. So they're selling to Aaron Rodgers. We're bringing heat, we're playing man to man. What the Steelers are going to do is they got a fade on the outside. They've got a high, low combination down here at the bottom and they've got Friarmouth and he's going to run down the middle of the field. That's the route combination. Now as this thing unfolds, what's actually going to happen is they're only going to end up rushing three defenders. So they're going to rush these three guys, drop those two linebacker types out. So at the end of the day, they're actually dropping eight defenders. So they show max pressure. They show man to man press coverage. Now they're dropping eight and they're playing a cover two zone. So going to take the two safeties, they're going to drive to the half the field. The vulnerability is the middle of the field and that's what Aaron Rodgers is going to recognize post snap. So now he's got to see whether or not this matchup with Friarmouth can get open. And Darius Washington, who's on Friarmouth, he's got a rung with Friar down the middle of the field. So Rodgers drops back. Fiermuth does a great job here of selling that. He's going to break out. See the head? His body doesn't change, but his head changes. Now watch what Washington does. Washington thinks, okay, I'm going to jump this. It's third and eight. The guy's at the sticks, he goes to jump this. He's still looking back. Now as Friarmouth continues to break down the middle of the field, there ends up being almost three yards of separation between him and the guy who's supposed to carry him down the middle of the field. Then the two safeties, they're a little bit too wide in their landmark. They're supposed to be 3 yards inside the numbers. All they can do at this point is come in and do exactly what happens and make the tackle on fire moves. So instead of a third and eight, now you've got first and Goal. And it ends up leading to the touchdown, where they initially take the lead. But that's where this game, to me, is going to be won by Pittsburgh. It's going to be the experience of Aaron Rodgers, and you've got a lot of guys with experience. Thielen has experience. And even the experience of coaching the playoffs with Mike Tomlin, that's the edge as opposed to looking at the numbers. Because the numbers, they don't look good, you know, for Pittsburgh.

[Rob Parker]

Eric Mangini, first things first. After us. Good seeing you, coach.

[Eric Mangini]

Great seeing you, Colin.

[Rob Parker]

Yeah, it's interesting. As I watched them last week, I'm like, they've kind of got the offensive line going. I like Jalen Warren, and they don't have a lot of A's, but Friar Moose, very solid. Gainwell. Jalen Warren, you know, Metcalf can make explosive plays.

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[Rob Parker]

It's. I know he's a one physically, but, you know, I don't feel he's like in the Jeff Jefferson, Jamar Chase, JSN class. But, you know, I think Pittsburgh's got. And I like Houston all year. I think they got a puncher's chance. I wish the number was three and a half, but keep your eye on the Steelers. J. Mac with the news.

[Eric Mangini]

No, no, no, turn on the news.

[Colin Cowherd]

This is the Herd line news.

[Rob Parker]

All right.

[Colin Cowherd]

John Harbaugh, obviously on the market. Everybody wants him. We have an interesting report out of Cleveland. Now, I don't see how Harbaugh could go to the Browns, but Tony Grossi, a longtime reporter in Cleveland, he's the guy who got into it with Shador, kind of friendly in the tunnel. He is saying that Harbaugh has some contingencies before he'd be interested in joining the Browns. This is Tony Gross. He's reporting Harbaugh wants $20 million a year salary. That might sound crazy, but Andy Reid's in that ballpark. And, you know, Harbaugh wants a $10 million staff budget, so he wants his coordinators to get paid. He wants total authority over the roster, and he wants a handpicked gm. That's according to Tony Grossi. Does any of that sound.

[Rob Parker]

That's too much power for a coach? Probably. Like, I think Belichick got in trouble when he had too much power. Andy Reid doesn't want that. Shanahan doesn't necessarily want that. Sean Payton's got a lot of power right now, but he also has a really good, capable GM above him. I would be. I would be willing to give my coach a lot of money. 20 million is not ridiculous in this day and age. I'm not going to let him hand pick the gm. I want him to interview four or five and we'll come to an agreement. But I don't necessarily want, hey, I want my guy and he's a valet for Harbaugh. I, I'm not giving my coach that. I want my coach to have a say. But the truth is we have history here. When you try to coach in gm didn't work for Mike Holmgren, you know, Pete Carroll and the end in Seattle, the minute he left John Snyder control the drafts. What happened? Seattle drafts got good. I don't want my coach to have ultimate authority. I want him to have a say, but I don't want ultimate. That sounds like it's too much power to the coach.

[Colin Cowherd]

Does it almost sound like I'm asking for the world? So you say no thanks and I don't have to deal with Cleveland anymore. Yeah, maybe just ask for everything on, on planet Earth. Like that's a lot. Again, listen, I'm just going to play devil's advocate here. Harbaugh extremely good resume, won a Super bowl, gets the Ravens to the playoffs every year. In recent years they've had some really, really bad inexplicable losses, playoffs and otherwise. Yeah, I mean, who's blown more double digit leads in the last few years than the Baltimore Ravens? At some point it's kind of got to be on the coach. Yeah, I mean, I'm not totally blaming him. I'm just saying this isn't like Jim Harbaugh getting Jim Harbaugh from Michigan. This is not that. Right.

[Rob Parker]

Yeah, I mean I think they're both really, really.

[Colin Cowherd]

Both real. He's really good. All right, let's move on to the Patriots and Mike vrabel's unbelievable turnaround. 3 and 14 to 14. 3. They are the number two seed facing the Chargers and they gotta face Justin Herbert. Here is Vrabel talking about facing that superstar quarterback.

[Eric Mangini]

He's got toughness, great arm, talent, great athletic ability. You know, he's under duress. I mean, and it doesn't really affect him. You don't see him get frustrated. A lot of respect for him as a, as a person man, obviously as a player. And you know, he's lived up to everything that they thought he'd be as a franchise quarterback. And he's really just one of the best quarterbacks in the league.

[Rob Parker]

That's a nice feeling. You take a job over and you've got your CEO. If you own a Company, you find your CEO and you're like, oh, I'm going to have a great 10 years owning this company. I'm going to have a great 10 years. Mike Brable. In New England, I got the owner and then this owner's son is bright. And then I've got my quarterback and I got my star coordinator who's got a 10 year Runway like New England for the next 10 years is going to win Super Bowls. I don't know how many, but they're going to win.

[Colin Cowherd]

Possibly. Interestingly so. Yesterday we talked about all the bad, or maybe it was two days ago, the bad quarterbacks the Patriots have faced and Rams and Chargers fans are latching on. See, he can't be the mvp. So our staff put together a list of all the quarterbacks that the Patriots face and without a question, Colin, Justin Herbert is the second best after Josh Allen. Like I know people like Lamar Jackson. Herbert, he had a better season than Lamar who was kind of banged up. Other guys on the list, Bryce Young, Spencer Rattler, Cam Ward, Dylan Gabriel Tua Geno Smith, who they lost to, Quinn Ewers, Brady Cook, Colin, that's, I mean, Baker Mayfield, Joe Flacco, they haven't seen anything like Herbert.

[Rob Parker]

No, I, I, I know. And, and Josh, he beat him up in one of the halves. Yeah, yeah.

[Colin Cowherd]

This is one of those games. I did plant my flag. I'm all in on Chargers. I, I'm rooting heavily for the Chargers this weekend, obviously, and as a Jets fan.

[Rob Parker]

Well, the Chargers are, I mean their defense is great, their coach and coordinators are great, their kicker stupendous. I think they're receiving core like New England's better than people think.

[Colin Cowherd]

Oh, Marion Hampton listed as questionable. That's not great. I thought he just got back from an injury. He runs hard. Him and Vidal. Vidal Sassoon. Go Chargers. Final story, Colin, is the rematch tonight in the college football semifinals. Oregon, Indiana in the Peach Bowl. Now we, I kind of made you ask Urban Meyer earlier about the rematch angle. He didn't take the bait. But this is unbelievable. Fernando Mendoza is claiming in the rematch against Oregon that Indiana is the underdog. Here we go.

[Rob Parker]

Oregon's a fantastic team. They're national powerhouse. And although that we beat Oregon, it shows that we are still the underdog. You know, at that point, you know, we were for sure the underdogs. They're ranked above us. However, we're trying to keep that underdog mentality going into this game. As you know, we might be ranked higher than them now in the College football playoff seed, but it's a neutral site right now. It's a neutral site. They have fantastic talent on their team. Like I said before, draft picks star studded all across the board.

[Colin Cowherd]

Yeah, nice try, Fernando. You're a three and a half point favorite. Okay, so stop now. Colin, regarding the rematch specifically, our crack research team has dug up this in the last 30 years we've had some rematches in college football, Natties. Wouldn't you believe it? Teams are 1 and 6 in the rematch after winning the first game and the one win was Ole Miss over Tulane. Look at that history. It is not great. Take a deep breath. Okay Indiana fans, this is not gonna be easy tonight. I'm just telling you I I think about it. When you play tennis at your club and some guy beats you in the ladder, you go to the rematch, you're fired up, you're locked in, the other guy's off. I beat this guy already. I'm just telling you, this is a real thing. I'm not, I'm not taking the Ducks out right. I'm nervous about my Indiana Moneyline parlay though. Got got Miami home last night, but I don't this is going to be a good one. This is going to be probably last team with the ball wins.

[Rob Parker]

There's a chance for it. J Mac with the news well, that's the news and thanks for stopping by.

[Colin Cowherd]

The Herd lie news.

[Rob Parker]

We'll give you the picks of the week next.

[Colin Cowherd]

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[Rob Parker]

Well, after 18 weeks of action, there's just 14 teams now with an operation opportunity to grab the Lombardi Trophy. Five games that J. Mac has perused and made A choice and he will now unveil them. Here we go, tomorrow's headlines. Today we start Rams at the Panthers tomorrow on Fox.

[Colin Cowherd]

It should be a good opener for the playoffs, right? You get arguably the best team in the league in the Rams and then against first time playoff quarterback in Bryce Young, the headline will be up on Matt Rushmore. Stafford still moves mountains. I like the Rams here a lot. Colin, fun stat for you. Rams had eight wins of 14 or more points this year. Eight. Okay. They crushed teams and it's not all Falcons and bad teams included in their Jacksonville who they stomped over in London and San Francisco as well. Just remember guys, the Rams dominated the earlier meeting with the Panthers 7.4 yards per play. They face five third downs in the whole game because they're getting chunks of yardage so easily. Just the Stafford pick six hurt and then Bryce Young with a couple lucky high leverage plays on fourth down. But Quinton Lake will shore up the secondary. He returns. Now I will say there is one word of caution. I haven't heard anybody mention this. So the defensive coordinator of the Panthers is Ivaro who was with the Rams and McVeigh for a few years. He has faced three McVeigh quarterbacks this season. Jordan Love who he beat Brock purdy who threw three interceptions and Matt Stafford who threw two. So he seems to know that McVeigh Shanahan tree. Well, I just don't know if the Panthers can score to keep up with the Rams even if they hold them to 28.

[Rob Parker]

Right.

[Colin Cowherd]

Do you think the Panthers are getting 21 on this defense? No, they're going to need a defensive touchdown. So I like the Rams to win.

[Rob Parker]

And cover tomorrow's headlines today. Packers at the Bears tomorrow. I know where you're leaning.

[Colin Cowherd]

Round three should be a fun one. I mean it's going to be cold. I'm waiting on the full weather report because the precipitation. We still don't know. I don't know that it matters. Colin. The headline for Packers Bears round three will be great expectations. Cheddar heads Barbecue Johnson's brats. I'm going with Jordan Love. Listen, I can't get over this, but both teams had that week five buy. They've been playing for a long time. One team played their guys last week against the Lions hard. Tough matchup for the Bears. The other team set their stars. Packers are going to be rested coming in. Maybe there's some rust. I like Jordan Love here to get it done. He's going to have his full complement of receivers. Watson, Reed, Dobbs, Colin they faced off twice this year. The packers led or the packers never trail for one second in the two meetings. I know Ben Johnson smart. I just, I think the packers get it done here and I think they can win with some margins. There is a theme I'm going to be fading. First time playoff quarterbacks. Bryce Young first time. Caleb Williams first time. And the reason Colin the number first time playoff quarterbacks against quarterbacks who have been in the playoffs 1937 and one they do not do well.

[Rob Parker]

Tomorrow's headlines today another game on Fox Big brand San Francisco 49ers at Philly.

[Colin Cowherd]

This one, this one hurts because I love the Eagles. You know I had them smashing the Chiefs in the super bowl and I love me some Brock Purdy in the Niners. However, the headline for Eagles hosting the Niners will be a kiddle Hard work never hurts anyone. Give me Jalen hurts. Colin I, I, I like the Eagles here pretty comfortably. What stinks about this is it's such a. It's the matchup of the best I think defense in the nfc. Sorry. Seattle against the best offense in the nfc. So you get these two great units meeting and I just got to give the edge to the defense. It feels like a champion.

[Eric Mangini]

Yeah.

[Colin Cowherd]

I'm looking at the injury reports. It looks like the Eagles are all clear. They did rest their guys last week. Remember week 18 against. Johnson's going to play Lane Johnson's back. Jalen Carter's good with the shoulders. Then you look at San Fran. They were in a war last week against Seattle that was a battle. Remember Brock Purdy ended up on his back at the end of that game. It's not looking good for Trent Williams. The injury report today will be pivotal. Pierce all unlikely to play. I don't know.

[Eric Mangini]

I'll go.

[Colin Cowherd]

Eagles low scoring 21:13.

[Rob Parker]

Tomorrow's Headlines Today. You've been hot on this since Monday. The Chargers in their wobbly O line travel to Foxborough to take on the Patriots.

[Colin Cowherd]

Imagine that the guy out here in LA likes both west coast teams. In what should be a barn burner. The headline Sunday night Chargers Patriots will be tea party foul. Pete's Pat's puke after charger punch. Yeah, Drake B. Look at that. Listen man, I just. Everything about this matchup for the Chargers. Collins screams success. The Patriots don't get to the quarterback 25th in pressure rate so they can't take advantage of that weak offensive line. I will also add New England only played four playoff teams one in the last 12 weeks. They went two and two fewest opponents in the playoffs, we were not going to go over the quarterbacks they faced that are weak. Justin Herbert though, in the red zone. Chargers, they're awesome. Chargers defense, fourth best in the red zone. Patriots 29th. If they can matriculate the ball down the field with Vidal Sassoon and Mr. Hampton, he better play. I think they're going to be fine. Gadsden is an emerging tight end.

[Rob Parker]

Yeah.

[Colin Cowherd]

By the way, last year Harbaugh beat up Drake Nate badly. They won 40 to 7. Now I know it was Mayo and a different staff and May was a young guy, but I'm just telling you, Jesse Minter is, could be the star of this one. Colin, he's going to, I guarantee you he gets a head coaching job next, in the next, whenever they're done because he's highly coveted in net quarters.

[Rob Parker]

I mean, listen, you feel strongly about it and I just, I, I just. That old line for the Chargers is so leaky.

[Colin Cowherd]

By the way, Patriots at home. Three losses this year. One was to the Raiders. Week one also lost to the Steelers.

[Rob Parker]

Finally, tomorrow's headlines. Today, Monday night. I don't think this will be the most stirring game.

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[Colin Cowherd]

Come on. You love defense, don't you?

[Rob Parker]

Yeah, not that much defense. Texan Steelers.

[Colin Cowherd]

Texan Steelers Monday. We haven't done too much on this game, but I feel like this is kind of a slam dunk. The headline for Texans at the Steelers will be Rust in Peace. Texans Tarnish Steel Curtain. It's over for Tomlin. Give me the Texans. We are winning comfortably. Colin, fun stat in the playoffs. You've been on this for years. Mike Tomlin Last six playoff games. 06 straight up. 06 against the spread. They're not competitive. It almost feels like Pittsburgh does everything to extend that. Mike Tomlin makes the playoffs, finishes above.500 streak. Then they get to the playoffs and they flop. Now, I know Rodgers is your guy. You love you some Aaron Rodgers. I don't know how he survives against this pass rush from the Texans. It is nasty. Demico Ryan says them juiced up and Nico Collins is a guy I'm going to look to bet his prop overs. He's great against his zone defense like they cannot. Nico Collins is going to eat.

[Rob Parker]

You know, Houston doesn't have a great offense but they have big play potential.

[Colin Cowherd]

And the young guys from Iowa State.

[Rob Parker]

Yeah, yeah. They're not, it's not, they don't. You know, it's not a 15 play drive, consistent, efficient offense but they got home run hitters.

[Colin Cowherd]

Somebody tried to sell Me on what dome team going to cold weather. Apparently it's going to be freezing. I. Do you think of Houston as like, they can't handle cold weather.

[Rob Parker]

I worry about weather like Green Bay's deep passing offense in Chicago. Christian Watson, you're supposed to have 30 mile an hour gusts so that you just take that out. So I don't think Green Bay runs the ball effectively with consistency. So big plays down. And for the record, Jordan Love loves throwing the deep ball. He lets it rip. You can just eliminate that stuff.

[Colin Cowherd]

But like C.J. shroud played at Ohio State in a lot of cold weather. I don't think this is going to be a big weather game in Pittsburgh. I think if anything, the Steelers, they were in a major battle last week. Texans pulled their guys at halftime last week. Pittsburgh, brutal matchup. You know, slobber knocker against your Ravens. I just, I don't see them bouncing back. Colin, I. I like Houston. You're like 239 or something like that.

[Rob Parker]

All right, well, you know, we. You didn't touch the Bills. Jaguars, I bet.

[Colin Cowherd]

Jaguars first half. But I'm just. I've got to be nervous about just Josh Allen taking over the game. He can do that.

[Eric Mangini]

Yeah.

[Colin Cowherd]

Now, will he? Is another question.

[Rob Parker]

Yeah, it's. It's one of the. I felt nervous about New England. That. No, no O line that bad has ever won a playoff game. I think all your stuff on New England is true. They have not played a good schedule. I think it's. I think I really look at that in college a lot. You know, for years and years, the SEC was so good. They just beat each other up. I, I think it's something I. I don't know how much it is. I'm more concerned about schedule when it comes to MVP race. Like, Stafford faced a much better schedule than Drake may. So individually, I think that benefits Stafford as a team. You're efficient or you're not. And I think New England's really efficient. They're not for the record. They're not great. I. You and I have said this. I think they're still in a rebuild. I honestly think New England's in a rebuild. They need another six draft picks.

[Colin Cowherd]

Chicago and New England are way ahead of schedule.

[Rob Parker]

Way ahead of schedule.

[Colin Cowherd]

Final thing we talked about McDermott. If they lose and badly, maybe he gets run. What about Mike Tomlin? Could we see Mike Tomlin?

[Rob Parker]

They don't make moves.

[Colin Cowherd]

I don't think they would let him go. What if he says, guys, I'm exhausted. As Harbaugh's out. Let me just chill.

[Rob Parker]

Tomlin's energy is great. I, I think. And again, I don't think Houston's the kind of team that can blow him out. It'll be, it'll feel 23, 17 or, or thereabouts. And, you know, and then you're just going to say, well, we made the playoffs and, and Kumbaya. And Aaron loves Tomlin. I think he's coming back. See you Monday. Whether you want to maximize your performance or form healthier habits this year, knowing what your body needs can help put you on the right path. With Quest, you can buy your own lab tests [e-mail] no doctor visit required for purchase. Quest has a huge selection of tests, including the new Elite Health Profile, a panel made for men and women and tracks 85 plus health markers affecting the heart, liver, kidneys, hormones, metabolism and immune system, delivering a ton of insights in one snapshot. For a limited time, save on select lab [e-mail] with code herd10. That's herd10 at checkout.

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