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THE HERD - Hour 3 - FOX Sports CFB Reporter Bruce Feldman joins The Herd
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Colin Cowherd
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Colin Cowherd
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Now let's get this party started. You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.
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Well, listen, the College Football Conference championships aren't even done yet. The playoffs two weeks away. So when they created the College Football Playoff, it solved what we thought was the big problem with college football. A better ending. Well, the ending's crazier than ever. And Bruce Feldman from the Athletic and Fox Sports is joining us. Listen, it's a circus. I don't like any of it. I like some of it. Let, let's start with Miami. I think they have a real, real beef. Yes, they. Louisville's a bad loss, but SMU is not a terrible loss. 8 and 4 team, they got money. They were in the playoff last year. It was close. It was an smu. I think Miami has the biggest argument to be in. Do you?
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Bruce Feldman
I do, Colin. If you have head to head. And that's what happened. Miami, Notre Dame played. This isn't a hypothetical. They have the exact same record. They have a bunch of common opponents. Notre Dame's best win is over a three loss USC team that they beat in South Bend. It's not like Notre Dame has this great schedule of wins. But what's craziest to me is the committee. They tried out Hunter Yuricheck, who's the Arkansas ad, who this year is the chairman of the committee. And then he gets himself twisted in knots with all this like, double talk and, and, you know, basically stepping on a rake. Every time he gets asked a question, you know, he's talking about how Notre Dame has these, these really good losses well, who was one of the losses they had. They lost to Miami. And people can turn around and say, well, if they played again today, Notre Dame would be favored. Notre Dame was favored actually the first time when Miami. So you have two teams with the exact same record. And in this sport, head to head has to count. It has to matter because we do so much projecting because we have the smallest sample size in college football of any of the sports that if you just completely dismiss head to head results of what happened on the field, then what are we doing? Then why are we playing the games? Why not just let computers play out this season? It's just. It is ridiculous that it's gotten to this point. And again, I think so much of what the issue here is is we have ESPN paid a lot of money to get the cfp.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah.
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Bruce Feldman
And to milk some extra ratings out of this. They come up with this Tuesday night rankings reveal show that started way too early. It's in early November. The committee locked, you know, kind of gets locked into these positions. Miami had the same record as Notre Dame and still beat them, you know, in the first rankings. But they were like 10 spots behind them. Yeah, it was 10 and 18. Right. It was like too far of a gap. It's just, you know, it's not just the Miami, Notre Dame thing though. There's so many other things where Jura check, especially the committee chairman just contradicts himself at every turn. And you can clearly see they're moving the goalposts and they're making it up as they go along. It's an embarrassment for the sport.
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Colin Cowherd
It really is. Let's.
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How do you solve it? There are. People talk about different ways to solve it. I always think if you create clarity, like head to head is the most important. Common opponents is the second. That would guarantee Miami's in. It would take the argument out if you just said these are the two things. I don't even know. I said, I said it's easier for me to explain blockchain than it is what matters. I don't know what matters. Notre Dame lost at Honda Northern Illinois last year and they got in. So to, to my take is let's, let's give a solve here. If, if you ran the sport for a weekend, is there one or two things you would change? Absolutely, Bruce.
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Bruce Feldman
The first thing I would say is you can have all the formulas you want, but they, they have to almost be like after the threshold of if the teams have the same record and they're playing the same level of competition, which These two are. Yeah. Then you're not going to say, oh, they're not really the same. Like just the fact that the committee's logic now, according to your check, is these two teams have to be lumped next to each other for you to even consider that the head to head factored in, it's like, what are we doing? That is the dumbest thing I've heard. And it changes from week to week according to when he gets asked about it. That's what's really screwy. I mean, do the metrics have a place in it? It should, but not trumping or getting in the way of the head to head because if you devalue the head to head, then it just doesn't make sense to like, then the games don't matter. Like the games have to matter. I don't care if you have a, your kicker had a bad day that day. I don't care. You know, it's like the game happened, right? We don't look back and say, oh well, the, the Patriots are way more talented than the Giants. That guy never would catch a ball off his helmet again. So let's just give the super bowl to the team we think is better. You know, it's just like the games have to matter. Upsets happen. Crazy stuff happens, especially in college football. But to say, oh, the game happened in the first week of the season. It's like a preseason game. No, it's not. We don't have preseason in college football. That's the NFL that has the preseason has a 17 game schedule. So again, I think it, I think the leadership of the sport is really failing the sport itself.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah, I've said for years it reminds me of boxing. It's every man for themselves. You know the old wild, wild west where you had territorial governors in the 1800s. Our territorial governors are conference commissioners. We need a CEO and we don't have it. I want to go to something I, I had predicted when the NIL came out. I said there's bigger money at Notre Dame, Michigan, usc, Oregon than there is say at Alabama or Tennessee sometimes. And I, I said, I don't think NIL is going to crush the little guy. I think you're going to see new stars emerge depending on rich boosters. Well now all of a sudden Indiana Vandy. Vandy goes and buys the best five star quarterback. And it's fun to watch USC number one in recruiting, Oregon number two. Not a surprise. LA under Pete Carroll and Kevin Sark always recruited. Well, when you saw USC number one, what was your initial takeaway to that?
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Bruce Feldman
I think they were able to do a much better job locally than they had previously under Lincoln Riley. That was a huge piece of it. And I think right now it feels like they're more organized and more better alignment than they did at any point. Certainly since Lincoln's there. Certainly, you know, even when before the old regime with Clay Hilton, I think you'd have to go back when to probably the Pete Carroll, Mike Garrett days when USC was really rolling. You know, after that it sounded like it was. They've had, you know, let's be honest, you and I both have, you know, lived out here for a while. USC's had really bad leadership at the top for a long time. It's like they've often won in spite of that. And so I think that, you know, some of that is, is lined up now we got to see because again, I think it's, you know, if you're a USC fan, it's great that you had a number one rank recruiting class. You got to, you got to stack that though, because a lot of, you know, this day and age compared to what we're Talking about from 20 years ago, you know, those recruits back then, they weren't transferring left and right. You know, I can go to the elite 11 every summer and there's 25 quarterbacks there and like 17 of them may end up playing at a different school than they sign with two years later. And so I think it's like what is your plan? How does. Where's the follow through and all that? It doesn't guarantee you really anything, but it does give you some optimism. And I think at least in USC case wasn't a great year, but it was better, right? It was a nine win season. I don't think, you know, they really look like a team that was ready to compete for a. For championships, but maybe it's a step in the, in the, in the, in the right direction and now you got to build off it.
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Colin Cowherd
Listen, I try not to be Pollyanna with sports. Lane Kiffin got a better job offer. Everybody knows who Lane Kiffin is. I, my take has been Ole Miss would have signed up for best season ever. Number one offense. Knowing Lane Kiffin was going to bolt, make it ugly. If I'd have told you that four or five years ago, so it happened. I don't love it. The college football Playoff leaving that feels gross. Leaving a random bowl game when you can't compete for the Natty doesn't feel as gross. Were you deeply bothered by his exit with the Rebels deeply bothered?
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Bruce Feldman
No, I was. I wasn't shocked from this standpoint. Like, I know there's been a lot of stories written about how Lane Kiffin has changed, and he does hot yoga and he's not drinking now and everything. Well, I think he's still, largely still the Lane Kiffin we knew a long time ago. He's just skinnier. And he's always been a really good offensive mind, and I think he's gotten really good on social media. So I think he created a pretty big following. Look, and in one sense, it was surprising to me that can a coach basically quit and leave on a team that has a chance to win the national title, they're going to expected to have, you know, host a playoff game. You know, it's just like, that's not the time to do that. But look, nothing should surprise us anymore, Colin. I mean, we're at this different era and, and honestly, you know, and some of my colleagues pointed this out to me a couple of weeks ago, it's like, if any coach would. Would be the first one to like, kind of bail on a team in the middle of a playoff run, it'd probably be Lane Kiffin, you know, and I think, you know, some of the stuff that's happened since then where, like, you know, he posts something about, you know, on social media about. About what he said happened. And then his players, and they weren't just his players, they were like leaders of the team, were like, you know, that's not what actually happened. That ain't great. But, you know, LSU fans are going to love him as long as he wins. And I think he'll win there because until Brian Kelly, the last three coaches all won national titles there. And I would not be surprised if Lane did, too, because whether the governor's popping off or whether they're firing ad, that place can attract talent. And it's different kind of talent. I mean, you can go toe to toe with the Alabamas and the Georges if you're at lsu, at lsu, you can get some really good talent there. I don't think you are able. You don't have the same resources as they do in Baton Rouge. It's just a different deal. And, you know, I do feel for the Ole Miss fans who kind of bought into the, you know, I don't say the myth of that this is a different Lane Kiffin and all this other stuff, but, you know, like, you know, enjoy the ride and hopefully, you know, for your sake, Pete Golding can. Can sustain it. And build off it.
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Colin Cowherd
Be sure to catch live editions of the Herd weekdays at noon Eastern, 9am Pacific. Hey, it's Rob Parker and Kelvin Washington from the Odd Couple on Fox Sports Radio.
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Bruce Feldman
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Colin Cowherd
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Colin Cowherd
Listen, Penn State's a top 15 program. Maybe better than that. I go hire Brian Dable. Maybe he's not interested. He may get another NFL job, but this recruiting class is a disaster with Nil. You can probably mostly overcome that, although you'll feel it at some point. Who's going to be Penn State's coach? Do we have any idea?
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Bruce Feldman
You know, about a week ago we thought it was going to be Kalani Satake from byu who's done a really good job there. And then it, you know, didn't end up going in that direction. And now all of a sudden it's like Dave all's been around it. You know, there's definitely, from what my sources have told me, there are some key people who are really pushing him to get the job. He did a really good job as Alabama's oc. It wasn't that long ago they won the national title in 2017. I know it didn't go great in the end at the Giants. I'd be curious to see how he would do there. You know, he's obviously would have to support. Surround himself with a really, really good staff especially, you know, it's even more critical having not a ton of college experience at this point in this day and age. You know, I know that one point it was like, oh, would this job fall to Manny Diaz who'd been the D.C. there who's playing, you know, is playing this weekend in the ACC title game at Duke. I don't know. I mean, it's just, it's been a really baffling surge how it's played out. The bar is incredibly high there. You obviously have an incredible loyal fan base. I know the interim Terry Smith did a really good job. I know there's probably some support for him and I, I think it'd be hard for Day Ball to say no if Penn State offered him because I don't see anybody offering him, you know, a head coaching job in the NFL right now. So. Not after how it ended at the Giants. Maybe he could be a coordinator somewhere, but this is a big job. The question I think is, does Penn State think he can, you know, he can overtake Ohio State and Oregon and everybody else at the top of the top of the Big Ten because that's a big step forward.
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Colin Cowherd
By the way, I, I like Sark. He's going to honor the Ohio State, Michigan games in the future. He said that. And I think their athletic directors viewed as the. One of the great deal makers in college football. And I think when you don't make the playoff, you know, you get. You don't you. You're. Everybody's lobbying for it. I mean, Mack Brown lobbied for it. Stark's lobbying for it. I would like to see Texas in because I like big brands and I like their quality wins over Vandy and Oklahoma and Texas A and M. And I think they're actually playing the last three or four weeks. Arch Manning's really dealing. But they also struggled with average teams and they had a bad loss to Florida. I'm biased toward big brands. Probably biased because I know Sark. Where are you on Texas getting in?
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Bruce Feldman
I think they were last year. Maybe they could. They would have been the best three loss team of a pool of three loss teams this year. I just think there's too many teams that have a better case than they do. Yeah, they have, they have good wins. They also got blown out by Georgia, and they have a really bad loss against Florida. I mean, Florida is not a good team at all. And they lost that game. And I think the other part, you mentioned it, I mean, they really struggled. You know, if you're nitpicking resumes, which the committee tends to do, they do it when it's convenient for them. At least. It's like you mentioned it, Kentucky was a waste. You know, they were fortunate to beat a really bad Kentucky team, Mississippi State. I mean, it was just, it felt like to me, as the year went on, this team was a year away from being a national title contender. They got better. And I like what I saw from Arch and I think the defense has talent. You know, it was like, you know, the run game came and went.
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But I just think it's like to have a three loss team in there with one of those losses being so, you know, so I don't say inexcusable, but like, it's not like a 6 and 6 or 7 and 5 Florida team. Like, that's a, that's a really bad Florida team that they lost to. And I think you have to factor that in. I know that, you know, the Texas folks are going to say, hey, well, we played Ohio State. And you know, I mean, yeah, that's, that's something. Don't play the game then. Just don't, don't complain about it, but don't. Like, you know, you didn't, you didn't get in specifically because you lost to Ohio State. You're probably getting left out because you specifically lost a third game and it was to Florida.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah. Bruce Feldman, I saw you sent out a tweet this week with a swear word in it. I'm like, oh, boy, we better get him on the show. Holy moly.
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Bruce Feldman
Yeah, that's what happens when you sit in the car and are waiting for, you know, just kind of looking around. I'm like, oh, I was like watching a game and I saw the reaction to that and it was interesting just because way more people inside the sport sent me texts about it and it was like, I did not think I was speaking for a bunch of other people. I just thought I was just kind of reacting because, Colin, I'll be honest, you and I both spent a lot of time working at espn. There's a lot of people over there I really like, including people who work on that show. That Tuesday night show is the worst thing.
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Related to college football because it just mucks up the process and the whole embrace debate thing. Whoever decided to throw that into the college football world was doing it a disservice, not helping it out, maybe helping ESPN's ratings out, but it ain't helping the sport.
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Colin Cowherd
Bruce Feldman. I like the new Bruce. That Bruce has got. He is.
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Bruce Feldman
Sometimes when you get older, you, you, you don't, you don't give a heck as much.
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Colin Cowherd
No, I, it's not that I don't give. I, I, first of all, we're in different businesses. You're a journalist. I, here's the difference. You're a surgeon at a hospital. I'm a plastic surgeon. That's the difference. I'm not necessary. You are. You're a journalist. I'm out here. I look for. I like when there's a fire on the freeway. My business. I like the circus of it. I don't like this because I love the sport. It's got a ridiculous ending. So it does bother me. But I, I don't know, I just, I think I want to watch this weekend. I want to watch the playoff. I want to see how it comes out. Generally there's a good solve at the end, but. Yeah, I mean, I, I don't like the way it's ending. I don't either.
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Bruce Feldman
I don't need, I don't need it either. I mean like a lot of people are like, well, you know, you're a Miami guy. And I was like two years ago I was lobbying just as hard about, I always thought Florida State got screwed by the committee. They were 13 and oh, I get it, their quarterback got hurt. But you can't just do that to, to that team based off of what they did and say, oh, they're going to struggle the next round. Yeah, that may be the case. But don't start projecting everything because that's not the business that, that the sport is in. You know, if that's the case, you know, let, let Felika and the other handicappers put together their, their team and say, okay, who do we think on the power rankings? And, and based off of that, I get why they do that. But again, upsets happened. I mean, I think Felica is the one who pointed out to me that, you know, was that Miami was an underdog the first time. It's just the actual games when they're head to head, they have to be significant. You can't just dismiss them with a formula that has a plus sign after it.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah. Especially when you have common opponents and you have this both two losses, then head to head is, is, and even in the NFL, head to head is number one. It'd be one thing if Miami had three losses or they played in different conferences, but they both have two losses. They played head to head. They have all sorts of common opponents and Miami was better against them. I mean, even the great common opponent, Syracuse, Notre Dame, blasted Syracuse. Well, Miami did too. For the record, Miami blew him out. All right, we got a break. Bruce Feldman, as always, appreciate your insight.
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Bruce Feldman
Pleasure, Colin. Thanks for having me.
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Colin Cowherd
You bet. Yeah, it's I, you know, I, I, I love college football. It is messy and it's always been messy.
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Colin Cowherd
That Friday draw for the World cup cannot wait. J Mac with the news.
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Bruce Feldman
No, no, no, no.
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Colin Cowherd
Turn on the news.
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Bruce Feldman
This is the Herd line news.
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J Mac
All right, let's go to Texans Chiefs. Colin this is a big one. Seismic matchup. Huge playoff ramifications, especially for kc Sunday night should be a good one. The Texans defense has been off the hook the last two games. Remember they dropped Josh Allen eight times.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah.
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J Mac
Here is Mahomes talking about the troubles Houston's defense presents.
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Colin Cowherd
We'll try to do the best we can is getting the ball in my hand, running the football and then whenever there's shots on the field, you got to be able to hit them.
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Bruce Feldman
And so standing in the pocket, making.
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Colin Cowherd
Those throws against a really good defense. This is a really good football team that's playing really good football right now and has a really good defense.
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Bruce Feldman
And so we're going to throw it all out there and try to find.
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Colin Cowherd
A way to win. And this will be a big game.
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Bruce Feldman
For us to showcase who we are.
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Colin Cowherd
And who we think we can be moving on the rest of the season. I think. I think at this point, you know the truth about every single team in the league. Probably knew it about two weeks ago. And the truth about the Chiefs is defensively, they don't get people off the field on third down like they have in previous years. And offensively, the O line is a liability. And this O line against Houston is all banged up. J. Mac, I think this is a low scoring game. And I like the Texans. Plus the hook.
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J Mac
I love it. I'm looking at the practice report literally 13 minutes ago. It's so cold right now. They're practicing indoors in Kansas City. I mean, I keep hearing about a polar vortex in the Midwest. Can you talk a little bit about. I don't know what that means, but it sounds terrifying. But to the offensive line, Colin. No Juwan Taylor at practice. No Trey Smith. We know the rookie from Ohio State has a busted up ankle. I think he's on ir. You could be down three offensive linemen.
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Colin Cowherd
Yep.
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J Mac
Against arguably the best pass rush in the league.
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Colin Cowherd
Yep.
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J Mac
My only concern is that Stroud, in this cold weather, he's a guy. He's a West coast guy. I know he played at Ohio State. But this cold weather, how bad is it going to be in the Midwest?
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Colin Cowherd
Buddy Chile?
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J Mac
Chilly like teens.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah. Is Woody Marks available? If you can run the ball, that helps Houston.
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J Mac
He was at practice today. Woody Marks and Chubb, a pretty decent one, two punch. So you like Texas? Do they win outright and then put Casey on the brink?
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Colin Cowherd
I just know the hook is. I think it's a. I think it's low scoring. I think it's 24, 23. I think.
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That Houston's defense is good against pretty good offensive lines, that it will push Kansas City's O line all over the field.
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J Mac
Yeah. All right, let's move on to the next story, and that is Bill Belichick officially was named a finalist for the Pro Football hall of fame class of 2026. I don't think we need to go over Belichick's resume. It's pretty much impeccable I would assume. You think he's a first ballot slam dunk. Get in there.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah. I don't even think it's should be automatic.
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J Mac
The real question is how much scrutiny do we give his resume post Brady? Because once Tom left, and again, I'm not burying the guy. But he struggled.
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Colin Cowherd
No, I mean, he was a great defensive coordinator. And then he has failed as a head coach without Brady. And that's true in Cleveland and that's true in New England. And that's the truth is that post without Brady is not the same coach. That doesn't mean he wasn't a brilliant defensive coordinator. It doesn't mean he's not a brilliant guy. But.
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I always thought the end of Bill was when Bill took over, had too much control over the personnel and he's not a good drafter. And I watched North Carolina and he wasn't good in the nil. That is not his strength. He knows football. But Jimmy Johnson was great with personnel. Harbaugh shown an ability to be great helping in the draft room. Sean Payton can do that. Some guys like Shanahan aren't as good in personnel. They're great with schemes. So I. My take is Bill had power flexed, used it, and it was to his detriment on personnel.
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J Mac
So you made a good point earlier in the show. Remember, you were like, hey, Shanahan has. Has two Super Bowls with Elway. So I looked it up and it's hard. You know, I'm making this about Belichick, but Shanahan won seven playoff games in two years with Elway, the rest of his career, one playoff win. It's really hard to win in football if you don't have a quarterback. Now the question on Brady, is he. He was a. Nope, sorry, Tom. He was a six round pick. He was like a nobody coming into the league. Then became the greatest of all time. But like, without a quarterback, like you mentioned earlier, Tomlin, post, Roethlisberger, like, what's he doing? So do we really have to kill Belichick post Brady for. No, he's not really delivering.
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Colin Cowherd
It's like Michael Jordan. He was so great in his prime. The Wizards don't matter. You know, Shaq was so dominant.
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J Mac
Don't count that.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah, I mean, Shaq wore about six different uniforms. In the end, he was so great with the Lakers in Orlando. It just doesn't matter.
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J Mac
Yeah, Kobe Bryant was amazing with Gasol and with Shaq. And let's just forget about those years where he didn't have either of them. And they couldn't get out of the first round. So it's, it's a fun topic. I love this stuff. Final Story Colin I don't love this. The LA Clippers, AKA the paper clips, they cut Chris Paul loose in the middle of the night this week. And LA Clippers stars James Harden and Kawhi Leonard claimed they were shocked that Chris Paul was bounced. The Clippers decided to part with him after a three hour late night convo between Lawrence Frank and Chris Paul at the team hotel in Atlanta. Now, apparently this happened because Ty Lue and CP3 were not on speaking terms, right. For like weeks. I mean, that's not great. So Tim Lawrence Frank had to fly from LA to Atlanta to talk to Chris Paul and put him down nicely. Not great. James Harden says, I'm just as shocked and confused as you guys, the world. I'm not as shocked as everybody else. Are you? I mean, Chris Paul's averaging two points a game. What, what's the big deal here? Well, he's not like a rotational guy.
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Colin Cowherd
I think there's a much bigger, I mean he's a Hall of Famer. There's a much bigger picture here is that the windows close very quickly in sports. Usually a little slower in the NBA than the NFL. But the Clippers have to start over like they're bad. And the west is young and getting better. They have Kawhi and James Harden and Chris Paul. The west is young, dominant, getting better. Drafts are getting more important. The Clippers need a reboot. Tyloo is very, very good. But the Harden, Kawhi thing, I didn't get it. I didn't get Kawhi's extension. He's not a leader. Your best player had better have some leadership skills. He doesn't. I think the whole thing signals a reboot over the next calendar year.
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J Mac
The problem, that first round pick they have goes to okc. So don't tank, guys, please.
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Colin Cowherd
That's right.
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J Mac
You can't win 17 games or the Thunder get like the fifth pick in the draft.
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Colin Cowherd
J Mac with the news.
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Bruce Feldman
Well, that's the news and thanks for.
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Colin Cowherd
Stopping by the Herd lie news. All right. It's a very, very interesting college football weekend and it's a great NFL weekend starting tonight. I like Dallas at Detroit. Everybody seems to lean that way. Maybe it spells doom for Dallas. I think Cincinnati at Buffalo early window has upset written all over it. I think Joe Burrow's back. He's healthy. He's got a spring in his step and they put up big points last weekend. I think Cincinnati over Buffalo very much on the table. Do you have a potential upset in your world?
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J Mac
A do the jets count as an upset their dogs at home against the Dolphins?
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Colin Cowherd
Not really.
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J Mac
Not really. Okay, I will go a little risky here.
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If you're asking me for an upset, J. Mac, you got to give me one. Give me the Atlanta Falcons getting seven and a half seven against Seattle at home. Colin, I've been crunching some weird numbers here. This is strange in the last three, three maybe four weeks. If you look at teams coming from the west to the east late in the season.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah, they're tired, lot of flops.
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J Mac
Chargers get smashed by the Jags. Rams weirdly lose to the Panthers. There's like five of them and I'm like, what's going on? And I just wonder if, you know, after that Sam Darnold kind of train wreck, maybe the Falcons are able to unlock some stuff defensively to slow Darnold again sneakily. The last three weeks Darnold's numbers have been bad. They just. I mean they're four interceptions obviously against the Rams didn't help, but there's a world where the Falcons keep this close. I don't trust Kirk Cousins ever under any circumstances. But Drake London may return. So I would just keep an eye on Falcon Seahawks. That's come down from eight and a half to seven.
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Colin Cowherd
Do you have a strong play on Eagles at Chargers?
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J Mac
Well, I just saw the Jalen Carter news. We're not doing in the show today, but Jalen Carter is going to be out multiple weeks with some double shoulder issue. That's not great. The only data point we have without Jalen Carter is the Cowboys running all over them in the season opener. And you know, wouldn't you know it, but Jim Harbaugh likes to run the football. Hampton could come back. Not great news for the Eagles. I had pegged peg the Eagles as a great spot. I don't know anymore. Colin.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah.
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Colin Cowherd
I like the Texans and the points. I'm betting one of the ugliest games I've ever bet you do you make a living out of that? I don't.
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J Mac
Don't tell me it's Brown's Titans.
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Colin Cowherd
Maybe it is, maybe it is.
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J Mac
Producers are telling me to move off that game quickly. Let's go to a game people actually care about. Raven Steelers. Did you see Lamar? I'm not practicing today. He practiced yesterday.
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Colin Cowherd
There's no way in that game I'm going to swallow that many points. I'll take Pittsburgh in the points that rival that game's. A field goal game every time. And right now Baltimore, Baltimore's offense is broken. Forget it. I'm, I'm not that game's going to be close. Also, Mike Tomlin's being told he's going to get fired. So you know his, he's going to.
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J Mac
Oh, circle the wagons.
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Colin Cowherd
Circle the wagons game. Let's talk Dallas tonight. Greg Cosell earlier 46 years at NFL Films I asked Greg thoughts on the Dallas defense. What does the film say?
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Bruce Feldman
The first five, six weeks people are laughing at their defense and now you know they made those trades. Obviously they got Kenny Clark before the season but the in season trades they have made been really impressive and they're the trio of D tackles is as good a trio as any in the league with what they've done up front. The return of overshown, the trading for Logan Wilson, suddenly this defense, while it's not top five in the league, but it's a good enough defense to win games.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah, I don't think there's any question and the Cowboys, they knew what demarvi and Overshone was coming back and so they knew they'd have an athletic edge. And with Kenny Clark and Quinn and Williams it two things are true. Micah was great for the packers and moving off. Micah was great for flexibility which eventually was great for the Dallas Cowboys. Matt Mosley, who covers him some thoughts on the new look Dallas Cowboys Jerry is feeling great about things and boy, he is now openly talking about the playoffs and it's, it's been an amazing run for him and I think this Quinn and Williams thing, you know, it's amazing that Micah is having the kind.
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Bruce Feldman
Of season he is.
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Colin Cowherd
And if the Cowboys had continued down the path they were going, that would be the overriding story. Look at this guy blowing up. He's incredible. And yet nobody in conversation around the Cowboys is saying anything about Micah because of the trades that Jerry has made. That's right. So in Dallas that would overwhelm sports talk radio. That would overwhelm, you know, water cooler discussion. Nobody cares. Mike is gone. The defense is great. Dax having the best year ever. The other thing is Dallas has two first round picks next year. It is a great edge rusher draft. What do you know? Dallas has two firsts and the interior of their line set. The other thing for Dallas is they can, they can move down. They don't need a quarterback. There'll be six or seven desperate teams. Several were will overdraft the quarterback. So Dallas and their offensive line, they're two guards. They've they've used some draft capital on interior offensive lineman. The next last several drafts they've hit on both. They're both stars. So my take their two first round picks. One of them may be a right tackle, one of them is going to be an edge. But what the Micah trade allowed is for a deal maker, Jerry Jones to make deals. And in my lifetime the smartest p I don't care if it's Jeff Bezos. I don't care if it's a friend of mine. The smartest people I know, they want flexibility. They don't want to be trapped. Micah signing him would have trapped you. Green Bay has hit on so many of their draft picks they could afford Micah as a closer.
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Exciting times. I like Dallas Tonight.
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