Eric Mangini (3:35)

Loved it being kind of obnoxious.

Colin Cowherd (3:39)

So it's pretty exciting. I, I, I. It's pretty exciting. When you watch something like Drake May Happen and you're like, wow, they've got their guy. Do you think Mike Vle is even a little surprised? Like, end of last year, Drake to six games, Drake, I mean, Eric, he looks really good. He's got one awful pick this year. You think Vrabel's even surprised a little?

Eric Mangini (4:04)

Yeah, I'm really surprised. When you and I have talked about him in the past, I thought he looked a lot like Sam Darnold coming out of college. And Sam Darnold, it took a lot of time. And now, now he seems in the last year and a half to become the quarterback that, that people thought he would be. But, but that's, that's who I saw in the first year. Saw elements of that as well. The biggest benefit to me is Josh McDaniels and the combination of Josh McDaniels and, and Mike Vrabel. Josh does a great job of creating an offense that a quarterback can be successful in. And he's done a great job with young quarterbacks historically. Remember, he, he brought Mac Jones to the Pro bowl when they were together, and Mack was first there. So the progress that he's made is substantial. And I think he's got a chance to continue with it just based off of that combination of him, Josh and Braves.

Colin Cowherd (5:03)

Speaking of young quarterbacks, I said this about Caleb. The two big concerns in college, consistent accuracy still a problem, and playing within structure. Now, I think the latter has gotten better. He's holding the ball a bit too long, but I do think he's playing within structure. I mean, this kid could run every play if you wanted to. He's really special. But the accuracy thing, Eric, I Don't know if you ever come into this league and your accuracy is inconsistent, I guess Josh Allen has cleaned it up. When you look at Caleb, what's correctable and what does Ben Johnson just have to live with?

Eric Mangini (5:45)

I'm encouraged by Caleb, and you see the wild plays from him, and then we've seen it over the last two years from him. But there were all the mistakes and all the other problems that went with that. And the encouraging thing to me this year is his sacks have come way down. That's a big issue. That's been a big issue for him. And the fact that he's improved there, I think is significant. And every game that he continues to play with Ben Johnson, Ben Johnson gets to know him better. He gets to understand the system better. Now he's gotten some wins. He's strung some wins together. So there's confidence that he's having, and then the guys around him start getting confidence, and that can be contagious. So it's not perfect, but it's a lot better, and it's encouraging. And he's going to be graded at a pretty significant curve because of where he came in. But to me, if I'm a Chicago Bears fan, I think there's a lot to be happy about.

Colin Cowherd (6:46)

So I tend to watch, and I've done this for years. Sometimes maybe I'm generalizing, but I do watch body language, and I do watch coaches, and I do watch quarterbacks. And I remember Jay Cutler early in his career. I'm like, I don't like his body language powdered on the sidelines. Yeah, I didn't like Kyler Murray, and I like Cutter. I don't like his body language. I've been critical of Aaron when he was a Packer in his prime. And, you know, I just.

Jay (Producer) (7:13)

I.

Colin Cowherd (7:13)

You know, I kind of look at Sean Payton, and I thought last week in London, he got frustrated with Bo Nix a couple of times. And I think between Mims, Cortland, Sutton and Franklin, Evan Ingram, Eric, those are good players. Those are guys that can beat you and separate down the field. You could have a really nice, rangy, deep game. And Bo's not good at it right now. He struggles in the deep ball, like, missing badly. And I kind of watched Sean and I thought, sean, this is now. Okay, kid. You know, you've had 20 starts. What do you do when you realize your quarterback may have a hole and you can't necessarily fix it?

Eric Mangini (7:59)

Yeah, it's. It's hard when you're in that situation, and it's Hard when you're Sean Payton. Think about all those years that he lived with Drew Brees and all the things that Drew Brees could do. And it wasn't just what he could do athletically, but it's what Sean was able to do with the offense creatively, whether it was shifts, motions, multiple personnel groups. They put so much pressure on you as an offense because. Because of what the two could do combined. So now Sean wants to be able to do all those same things offensively, but he's got a guy that has limitation. And it's not just the physical limitations, but it's an experience limitation. And unfortunately, he's going to have to continue to be patient with it. And they're going to have to have a consistent running game. Against the jets, they couldn't run the ball very well.

Colin Cowherd (8:48)

No.

Eric Mangini (8:48)

They had an offensive lineman. Their guard was subbing in and he was actually hurt during the game. He's now on iron. So there are problems on the offensive line. There are multiple penalties that, that hurt him as well. That the luxury they have in Denver is they're getting saved by, by the defense. So Knicks can continue to struggle because the defense keep, Keep saving him. I just don't know at what point Sean's going to kind of need more out of his quarterback before, you know, before he just gives up on Bo, but he's not there. And the other thing you hear from Sean all the time is cut it loose. You know, what are you telling Bonix? Move on to the next play. Cut it loose. Cut it loose. And it just doesn't seem like he's comfortable enough taking some shots.

Colin Cowherd (9:33)

Yeah, the Buffalo Bills, Nick Wright, who, you know, occasionally will throw out a gem. So Nick said he went and looked it up, that you gotta win with your star quarterback. If you don't get to Super Bowls and start winning them. When you get that star quarterback like, you know, Brady in New England or Mahomes or whoever the quarterback is, Big Ben, Mike Tomlin very early got him to a Super Bowl. If you don't do it in the first five years, it's not going to happen statistically. History of the league. They get expensive, they get beat up. You have to make sacrifices. Now with a hard cap like you gotta. You gotta make when the making's good. And the truth is I can think that Sean McDermott is very organized and also think in a world of Harbaugh and Reed and Sean Payton and the afc, Shane Steichen, now that defense has let Buffalo down in these big games and now It's a mess. They cannot stop the run. Can't. At what point?

Eric Mangini (10:42)

It sounds weird.

Colin Cowherd (10:43)

Belichick's been fired. Andy Reid's been fired. Vrabel's been fired. Are we getting to a point here? As the gm, you got to say, guys, we're going backwards. We may need to change at the top.

Eric Mangini (10:56)

I can't imagine they're at that point right now. And to Josh Allen's credit, he didn't come in as anywhere close to a finished product, and he got significantly better. And the reason he won the MVP last year is he took care of the biggest problem he had, which was. Which was turnovers. And now this year, those turnovers are starting to creep back up. And last game, you could look at the two picks, and the one pick didn't lead to points. You know, in the first half. In the second pick, they were down by 10. You know, they would add to have an onside kick, but. But it's still. It's still a turnover, and it's still something that he had. He had pretty much eliminated last season. But I would imagine if you're Josh Allen, you feel like you gotta be Superman when Bijan Robinson's running for 170 yards. And then what is it? Drake London has 10 catches for 160 or whatever he had. And it's just. It's just so hard because he wants to play in the way that brings him success. But when you're sitting on the sideline and they're running up and down the field on you and you can't get back on the field, you feel like you have to be Superman every play. And to me, that's what hurts. Josh Allen.

Colin Cowherd (12:07)

Yeah. Wrap it up with this. Did you ever think Baker Mayfield would be this good?

Eric Mangini (12:15)

No. No. And you and I talked about Baker a lot when he first came out, and I felt like it was different than confidence. It was a lot of arrogance early on, and that served him well to some degree. And I think the sort of hero's journey that he's gone on with being traded by the Browns and then the couple different stops now getting Tampa Bay, it's not arrogance anymore. It's confidence. And that, to me, is different, and it resonates. And even as he's playing these guys that he, you know, that haven't had playtime, he appreciates those guys. He enjoys having those guys because he's been there. He's been the guy that had to climb back up the mountain. So this new version of Baker 2.0 or 3.0.

Jay (Producer) (13:03)

It's.

Eric Mangini (13:04)

It's really good. And the main concern I have for him is he takes a lot of chances physically.

Jay (Producer) (13:11)

Yeah.

Eric Mangini (13:11)

And I just don't know if that. If that's sustainable over the course of the season.

Colin Cowherd (13:18)

Yeah. Hey, one more. You coached in New York, and the Cleveland media, where you coached, is also pretty bitter. But in New York, they're not bitter. They're aggressive. And I think that the New York, Boston, Philadelphia media feeds into it, that you have to be aggressive because you're your rivals at the local newspaper, TV station, or talk radio station or aggressive. So you can come in as a fairly passive guy, and you've still got to be aggressive, because the New York, Philly, Boston media, it's. You got to have teeth, you got to have bite. And so, as you know, and. But, Eric, you were, man, genius. They loved you initially. They did. They loved you, and they can be tough on people. You were welcomed. The Aaron Glenn thing, after this past weekend, with the coaching at the end of the first half and at the end of the game, owners now fire after one year. They're all billionaires. They're not 100 millionaires. They're billionaires. What's too early to fire a coach? What would surprise you if Aaron Glenn got fired in three weeks? Would you be shocked?

Eric Mangini (14:19)

Yeah, I would be shocked. But. But here's. Here's what I think is fair from. From an ownership perspective is when you come in as a head coach, you outline your vision, you outline your values, you outline your process. And as the season unfolds, it may not go the way that you want it to, but if you can show the ownership how that. How the vision is, you're moving towards that, how you're reinforcing the values you said their team was going to have and how your process is making some sort of progress, then. Then ownership can take a look at that and say, okay, we'll. We'll be patient. But part of being a head coach, and especially a young head coach, is there needs to be some humbleness, too. You can believe wholeheartedly in what you're doing, but you need to have a little bit of humbleness to know that you don't know everything. And then you also need to have the strength of character as to when you make a mistake to say, okay, I'm gonna change this. I'm not just gonna stick with this because it's a decision I made. And that's the line that you walk as a new head coach and especially a new head coach that's not having success. And then you have the game like you had last week, where there's historic, you know, numbers that aren't very good. Woody. Woody is, is patient to a point. I wouldn't put him on the high patient scale. But you better be able to show something positive based off of what you. You brought in.

Colin Cowherd (15:48)

Yeah, you know, the jets, you know, they argued to the media. Hey, we gave sale a years. I always have this theory that if you've got a really smart guy in the building like Mike Frable, you don't let him go. It's like at a company like, like I thought Robert Sala was too good of a defensive coach to fire him. You know, I. If you're going to do it, man, you better have somebody ready, not an interim guy. I just. When I watched that game against Denver, it was a little malpractice there. Some of that coaching did not make any sense to me at all.

Eric Mangini (16:22)

Yeah, and look, if you have a game like that, you can't go up and sit in front of the media and lecture them and tell them they know better when they ask you a question. They're not going to stand for that. They've been watching a lot of football for a lot of years and they're really knowledgeable. So if you're going to start lecturing from your podium after getting a beat down, you better be ready for the repercussions.

Colin Cowherd (16:46)

Eric Mangini. First things first. He'll be fighting off Nick Wright. You know, the only downside to the Chiefs winning is, you know, those shows get. You know what? Yeah. No, it's not. I'm fine with it being a lot of Chiefs. I just don't want, you know, Nick out there using the hammer whack a mole on all his panelists there. He could be kind of tough on you guys. So, you know.

Eric Mangini (17:09)

Yeah, you know, they, they win one game after having 13 penalties against Jacksonville and they're going to the super bowl, according to Nick.

Colin Cowherd (17:19)

All right, great scene.

Eric Mangini (17:22)

It will see it come.

Colin Cowherd (17:23)

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Colin Cowherd (22:03)

All right, Colin, we touched on the Penn State head coaching vacancy earlier. This Marcus Freeman stuff, I mean, listen, Joel Clad addressed it. I would say there's 0.0% chance that Freeman entertains it. Remember, the Bears were looking at him in January. Colin, this guy was in the national championship in January. He's going back to the playoff. If they beat USC this weekend, which are big favorites, I cannot envision a world where Friedman even gives this an ounce of thought. This will be a clear step down for him. His next stop is the NFL.

Colin Cowherd (22:38)

Yeah, I think his next stop is the NFL. That's a good point. I, I, I didn't even think. I mean, it's almost disrespectful to Notre Dame because I think Notre Dame's a better program. I'm not going to put them in order, but I think there's about seven programs that are just perfect. You know, you're Michigan, your Ohio State's. I think Notre Dame is, you know, every. Everybody's got something. I mean, Notre Dame, it's tough academically. Oregon is kind of out. You know, Oregon's not a state with a lot of Division 1 high school players. Ohio State's about as good a program as you're going to get where you can get anybody mostly in. It's committed, it's got money. You know, Columbus is a sizable city. There's stuff to do there. You can take a recruit out. There's stuff to do. It's a fun town. So I, I'm. I mean, listen, Brian Kelly left Notre Dame for lsu. So I think it's a great job, but I think the Notre Dame job is one of those eight years and it's great. Like, it's like Yank managing the Yankees. Like, it's just. I mean, Aaron Boone I know fairly well. You know, I've had dinner with Aaron before and we've had a lot of conversations before he was the Yankee manager. I think his personality is built for that job and maybe Marcus Freeman's, but, you know, Brian Kelly was so intense, the intensity of the job wore him out. Yeah, and maybe Brian wore himself out. But I do think, I think it's a good point. I think Freeman's next stop is an NFL job. And I think if he coaches seven or eight years, he'll have so many of his players in the NFL that he'll enter somewhere in the NFL that's got five guys from the Irish on the roster. He can draft three more. And I think that matters. I think Harbaugh, you know, he's got so many guys around the league that he's touched that are, you know, so there. Jim came in the second time he could bring his staff. He had the quarterback that you. The LA media is not as relentless and doesn't have as much bite. So I think Freeman about six to eight years at Notre Dame and then he's an NFL.

Colin Cowherd (24:34)

I don't. It could be shorter than that and still State and, and I forgot you just talked so glowingly about Ohio State. Freeman's got some connections to Ohio State, so I, I guess that's an op. If Ryan Day says I've had enough, I went back to back, whatever. I'm out. I'm going to the NFL or retire, whatever.

Colin Cowherd (24:48)

It, it, it is interesting. Brian Kelly went Notre Dame, lsu, Lincoln Riley, Oklahoma, usc. I mean, it happens. I just don't think it happens here.

Colin Cowherd (25:00)

Yeah, it definitely doesn't happen. I, I mean, listen, I want to push back on what Klatt said. And I gotta ask you this. Like, doesn't it not look good if you're Penn State and you're calling, hey, let's call Nick Saban, let's call Marcus Freeman, and then you're calling all these guys and whiffing. I know the perception, who cares what the outside thinks? But at the same time, Colin, doesn't it look like, well, maybe this isn't a great job if those guys are not even entertaining it. Is it that good of a job? Good point again, just. All right, let's move on to story you've been waiting for for two hours. Skinny Luka making his preseason debut. Cooking. And I mean cooking. The Phoenix Suns, 25, 7 and 4, only played 22 minutes. Basically unstoppable. I like that he was getting to the line. He looked a lot more spry. Skinny Luka, pretty much unstoppable. Colin, I know NBA preseason, it's fantastic. Go ahead, rip the Suns, take shots.

Colin Cowherd (25:52)

No, I mean, listen, it's, nobody dominates G league players like Luca. I, I, I, I do think between LeBron's injury and Lucas, I mean, he does look just different. He looks like rookie year Luca. So I think he's going to dominate possession time. Like he's going to lead the NBA in ball in hand. He's going to lead it and I think he should as LeBron's aging. I, I said LeBron's going to have to play off ball more than he's ever played because Luka's not given the rock up. And Austin Reeves likes the ball and they're both younger and they're both in their athletic prime. So I think that's not a terrible thing for LeBron. But this is now skinny Luka is 32 points a game. Luka, and it's, and it's ball centric Luka. And at this point I'm okay with that. Yeah, I think LeBron should downshift to 60 games. And, and by the way, 33 minutes a night, that's where I think LeBron's at.

Colin Cowherd (26:54)

And also listen, Luke is doing small things. I know you don't follow the Lakers on social media, but he took the team to a car dealership and they raced around tracks. He's like switching jerseys with players at practice. He's, you can tell that clearly that off season talk with, with the GM and he, he's taken on a leadership role with the Lakers.

Colin Cowherd (27:15)

Let me ask you this, here's a. Here's another little thing that he did. He talk about defense, but playing defense. That little thing.

Colin Cowherd (27:21)

Yeah, yeah. He's a solid defender when he wants to be. I think he's going to be locked in this year.

Colin Cowherd (27:25)

I know the car dealership was cute. If he could guard somebody, I'd appreciate that.

Colin Cowherd (27:30)

All right. I see what we're doing here. We're pushing back on the Lakers. It's going to be a fun season ahead. Final story, Colin, is this is a little wacky again. It's goofy to talk mvp. It's goofy to talk playoffs. But Colin, we have an image here of the top seeds, the current playoff teams. Through six games, it's about 35% of the season. Colin, your Kansas City Chiefs are not currently in the playoffs. That's how rotten they've been.

Eric Mangini (27:55)

Now.

Colin Cowherd (27:55)

This would be a crazy playoffs if this holds.

Colin Cowherd (27:57)

It won't.

Colin Cowherd (27:58)

No Joe Burrow, no Lamar Jackson, no Patrick Mahomes. I'm. I don't know that the NFL is ready for a postseason like that.

Colin Cowherd (28:05)

Jackson. Jacksonville's gonna unravel. I think the Chargers, when Alton Hampton come back, will stabilize. I think Kansas City for sure is going to make it. I'm not sure Buffalo will.

Colin Cowherd (28:16)

Oh, geez, you're overreacting. Come on.

Colin Cowherd (28:20)

Okay.

Colin Cowherd (28:21)

You're not sure Buffalo's gonna make the playoffs. Have you seen their schedule? Can we get the Bill schedule on the screen? Cal Hurt needs to see 12 wins. They're gonna be fine, bro.

Colin Cowherd (28:31)

Okay. Oh, my God.

Colin Cowherd (28:32)

Not make the playoffs.

Colin Cowherd (28:34)

Playoffs. I'm just saying. Denver, Chargers, Chiefs could all make the playoffs from the AFC West. And by the way, the Colts are a playoff team.

Colin Cowherd (28:43)

Yes.

Colin Cowherd (28:43)

Okay, well, what if Houston this week, Houston goes into Seattle and that's a two and a half, three point spread. Houston wins that game. Okay, Jacksonville's good. Remember these Southern conferences, I mean, it's just easier schedules. So I. New England's not going away.

Colin Cowherd (29:03)

Here's a Bill schedule. So they're on a buy this week. Lick their wounds, come out of it. They'll smash the Panthers. The matchup with your boy Patrick Mahomes. Bills will win that. So they'll be 6 and 2. Then they beat the Dolphins. Tampa Bay go either way, I guess. Houston, Aaron Rodgers. Come on.

Colin Cowherd (29:22)

You know what I see? I see a lot of apps. North Carolina. Oh, yeah. Houston at Pittsburgh. I see a lot of apps at New England died. Those games, those are. Hey, that. That defense. I just watched them get pushed around by Atlanta. Drake London had 10 catches. Don't tell me they're bad. Run defenses have a way of keeping Josh Allen on the sidelines. The worst thing you can have when you have a great quarterback is a bad run defense. You can have holes everywhere. Your run defense is bad. You're in trouble because that means that you're going to lose time of possession. Teams are going to convert third downs. This run defense is horrible for Buffalo.

Colin Cowherd (30:06)

Well, just like how Rasheed Rice is going to save the Chiefs. Matt Milano, one of the great linebackers in the NFL. He's coming back from injury soon after the buy. He'll save everything. He'll stop. He'll plug the run defense holes. Bills are winning 11 or 12 games. Colin all right.

Colin Cowherd (30:20)

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Colin Cowherd (30:22)

Well, that's the news and thanks for stopping by.

Colin Cowherd (30:24)

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Colin Cowherd (33:11)

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Eric Mangini (37:04)

Have to start thinking seriously about allowing.

Colin Cowherd (37:08)

Yamamoto to finish this game. I don't think he's going to finish this game. So I just, because of the big delay in the eighth inning, because the offense of the Dodgers, he's going to give him this inning, and I think Banda will probably finish it in the ninth. But let's see. I mean, we're watching in baseball from the 70s and 80s now with this kind of starting pitching by the Dodgers. Yeah, I, I, you know, it, it's, listen, it, it worked. And so backseat Driver is sort of powerless. It worked. I just would have done the opposite. I would have stuck with Snell and gone to the bullpen. But, you know, it worked. And I also think, you know, whatever analytics tells you to do, analytics basically wants you after the sixth inning, they want you to go to the bullpen. But postseason baseball is different. There's jobs on the line, there's so much money on the line that, you know, Dave's like, I just like the look of him. I mean, just think about what it came down to. Dave was like, I like the look, I like the feel, I like the body language, I like the vibe. So here was, here was Dave Roberts response after last night, last night's decision.

Dave Roberts (38:12)

I see a real confidence. I think that's what it is. I think that, you know, last year certainly there was a transition and even in the postseason I didn't give him a whole lot of leash. But I think this year he's got true confidence. For me, that third time through at pitch 90, he feels that he's the best option. And so I think for me that just gives me that confidence, you know.

Colin Cowherd (38:42)

Think about this last year as they were battling in the playoffs, there were people that went out and said, I don't know if Dave Roberts is the guy. I don't know. But Aaron Boone gets criticized. He's two player friendly. And Dave Roberts similarly, two player friendly. Let me throw a theory out to you. So I used to work in minor league baseball and baseball so different because the season is so long. If you start with spring training until the end, you're with these guys for 200, 200 days and the players have to like you. They, I remember Jimmy Rollins, the former Philly, telling me, it takes one guy to ruin a clubhouse. Takes one guy to ruin a clubhouse. The players really like Dave Roberts. And if you're going to make an error like Aaron Booner, Dave Roberts the heir, or Pat Murphy, the air has to be you were too loyal. NFL is different. You can just cut guys, you can trade them, cut them, get rid of them. It's a, it's a coach dominated, GM dominated sport. But baseball, you have longer contracts, more guarantees, and you are together for so long that I'm going to support like the player friendly manager. You're trying to build trust. I would rather, I would rather lose a game in the short term, not in the playoffs. I'd rather lose a game on loyalty. I think that'll play well. I think that, that, that. I'm not saying ice cream for breakfast, Parent but I think Aaron Boone and Dave Roberts tend to be very, very hospitable and trust my guy managers. So I met last year they played the Padres. That was the craziest series. The Dodgers threw a bullpen game and it was I think it was like a shutout. It was an insane series. But they trailed the Padres last year two to one in the first round of the playoffs and that was and the Padres were young and cocky and had good energy and then the Dodgers eventually steamrolled them. But you know, I thought Milwaukee and Philadelphia were going to give Los Angeles trouble, but the bullpen's been fine because they're not using it much. I mean the starting pitching is just insane. And that's the Mariners Blue Jay series. I mean Yankees maybe if Garrett Cole was available for the Yankees. It's different. But no Dodger fan had great faith in the bullpen and it's just really mostly been a non factor. Steamrolled Cincinnati and Philadelphia and now Milwaukee. We'll see you tomorrow. It's a Hurt Weighted vests are everywhere right now. And it's not just a fad. The science is clear. Carrying extra weight weight boosts calorie burn, ramps up natural human growth hormone and testosterone in the body, and builds real world strength. Not all vests though are built the same and low quality gear is getting guys hurt. Shifting weights, bad strap, zero support. Just read the reviews. It's a recipe for disaster. That's why I'm all for Wolf Tacticals. True fit weighted vest. Built like real field gear, the vest is heavy duty, breathable, totally adjustable, no bounce. It moves with you whether you're grinding out push ups, knocking out yard work. It is not a gimmick. It's gear that turns whatever you're doing into training. It's excellent. Go to wolftactical USA.com take your training and physique to the next level. The code is heard 15 for 15% off your order. That's H E R D 15 at checkout only at wolftacticalusa.com People talk a lot about athletes performance, but what about your own? QuestHealth.com can help you understand where your health stands. With Quest, you can buy your own lab tests online, no doctor visit required. Quest has a huge selection of lab tests for everything from fitness to heart, health and more. Just buy a test online and visit a nearby Quest location for sample collection. You'll get four fast results online and for a limited time you can save on select lab tests@questhealth.com use the code HERD10 at checkout. Terms apply.

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Colin Cowherd (43:25)

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Colin Cowherd (44:26)

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