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The Herd with Colin Cowherd
THE HERD - Hour 3 - Jayden Daniels and JJ McCarthy injuries, questions about Caleb Williams, thoughts on the Broncos and Bo Nix, Mark Schlereth
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Colin Cowherd
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Mark Schlereth
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio and.
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Frank Schwab
Mark Sch will be doing the Raiders Commanders game. So you know he's watching the Raiders tonight. He's joining us live. Before we get into that brutal Denver loss, there is. We have never had more, more sharp young offensive coaches, Mark. And a lot of these offensive coaches, they come from the Kyle Shanahan tree, which is structure and timing and I don't know, I don't think that's what Caleb is. Is it just possible this is a bad fit?
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Mark Schlereth
I don't know about bad fit. Colin, I will tell you this. So one of the things that I struggle with when I was watching Caleb Williams coming out of USC is how many times he turned down a wide open throw to go make something better happen. And I think one thing about the National Football League is boring is the way you win. Being on time, being on schedule is the way you win. But when historically you've been rewarded, you've been praised, you, you've had accolades, you've had all these things, you know, generational talent because every time you break out of the pocket, every time you scramble around when you're in college, you have better athlet, you're a better athlete than the rest of the guys. You make big time plays. That's not how the NFL works. When he was on schedule, when they were scripting plays in that first half, he was 14 of 19. He ended up 19 of 30, right? So all of a sudden you get off track, you get off schedule, you try to make something big happen and that's when bad things happen to you. So we. He's shown that he can do it. It's just when they get off that script, when all of a sudden you're no longer on that and the defense adjusts, can you stick with that? Can you get out of your own head, hey, when I have to make a play, you know, all of a sudden I've got to go scramble around, I've got to do something special that, that he's got to get over, that he's got to be on schedule, he's got to put the ball in a place where the receivers can catch it and do something with it afterwards. And punting is okay. And so those are things that he is going to have to learn. But when your whole career and your whole life, you've been rewarded because you're such a great athlete, I always say this, Colin, when things break down as a quarterback, your reaction has to be from the neck up, not from the neck down. It can't be, hey, I'm a better athlete than everybody else, let me go make a play. You've got to think your way through that and you've got to be able at some point to dump the ball off or to throw it out of bounds and punt. Those are the things that he's going to have to learn how to do.
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Frank Schwab
So if people didn't watch the Denver game, three big mistakes, a J.K. dobbins, a tight end, the kick. And I thought Bo Nicks played much better but had a really rough interception on the 4th. And I've said this, I picked them to win their division. They have been really sloppy defensively. Daniel Jones ate them apart. Now I think the Colts have better personnel than people give him credit for. Warren, Jonathan, Taylor, Pittman, Pierce. Indy has got a roster. They got players. But I how is it playing? I mean, you're very popular in Denver Sports radio. They just look off to me. Is it too early to be concerned?
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Mark Schlereth
No. I mean, ultimately, you know, it doesn't really matter who your quarterback is. Doesn't really matter. You know, who your receivers are. Doesn't really matter. As Joe Burrow if you can't dominate the line of scrimmage, guess what? You can't win in this league.
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Frank Schwab
League.
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Mark Schlereth
And the Indianapolis Colts absolutely dominated the line of scrimmage. The one thing that was a big talking point, Colin, for you and myself and everybody else in the media was this is an elite level defense. This is the best defense in football. This could be a generational type defense. This defense got beat up online of scrimmage. They could not generate a pass rush. They could not stop the run. When you're playing second down and five on every play because your running back is churning out yardage and, and then you're busting coverages, you're throwing the ball. Daniel Jones looked great. The quick game was awesome. Their crossing routes were great. They did a, a phenomenal job of beating the Denver Broncos. And that pass rush was never, was never allowed to be unleashed. And they say this all the time in the NFL. You earn the right to rush the passer with how you defend the run. They couldn't defend the run. They never got into their pass rush. They had one sack over the course. It was a linebacker sternod and it was off a blitz. Other than that, they never sniffed Daniel Jones throughout the rest of the day. So yeah, it was sloppy offensively. Bonix looked a lot better, but he threw that, that untimely pick. The Broncos have been sloppy throughout the first two games of the season, without question. And that elite level defense got pushed around last yesterday.
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Frank Schwab
So you had several surgeries I said, I don't know who Dak Prescott's surgeon was, but he looks reborn. He's running. They asked him to throw 52 times against a pretty good defensive front. And I always thought when a player got a surgery, he had to play himself back into confidence. And I don't know what I mean. Dax, off season must have been profound. I. I am shocked by how young he looks, how active he looks. His body looks like he's in the best shape of his life. Are you at all surprised by Dak and this Dallas offense?
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Mark Schlereth
No, I. Listen, I've been a guy that has been a Dak Prescott fan since the day got in this league. I think he's got this old soul about him. I'm with you 100%. He is moving. He has been on target. Remember, man, he was completely on target in that first game. Had a bunch of drops in that first game, that Thursday opener against Philadelphia. So I think the guy has been amazing. 52 attempts. And I thought what was really cool, when the game was on the line, when it was crunch time, man, he went out and found himself CD Lamb, he got some big plays from him. And then George Pickens is such a threat over the top, the underneath game. I thought smart coaching by Brian Schottheimer and that staff. Get the ball to Pickens underneath, you know, you're so worried about him beat you over the top. And Dak Prescott operating that offense. Now, defensively, they got to clean some stuff up, right? You just can't give up big play after big play and not cover guys. But offensively, what a game. And how about their kicker? 64 yards to tie it up to get into overtime. That's just ridiculous.
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Frank Schwab
Not fair.
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Mark Schlereth
It's ridiculous.
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Frank Schwab
So I'm watching Philadelphia and I said this. What? Nothing helps your defense like a profound run game. Because now we've got 17 games. The Steelers have the second oldest roster in the league, the Washington. So they got some. They got some veteran players. And so to keep them off the field, you got to pick up first downs. Well, the Steelers don't. They're like 30th in time of possession. They're 29th or 30th in yards per rush. So it's an old defense and they're on the field too much. So when I watch Philadelphia, I don't know if their defense is great. But your great Bronco teams and your great Washington teams had this ability. When the game was tied at half, you knew, like a great baseball pitcher, you were going to wear people down in the second half. That game was 10, 10 at half. And I'm like, oh, this is Philadelphia. This is built for Philadelphia. Kansas City has no run game. And I want you to speak about that, about going into a game always knowing we got the better online, we got the better run game, and how it affects halftime changes and second half possessions.
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Mark Schlereth
Yeah, well, I mean, number one, you're going to bail your defense out, right? You're going to keep them fresh. Because playing defense, Frank, is harder than playing offense when it comes to the energy that you expend. I mean, you know, if I block you and our running back takes off and he's down the field for 10, 11 yards as a defense, you got to chase it. You know what I do? I go to where we're going to huddle. I just walk, I don't give a rip. And so it is, it takes more effort to play on that side of the ball. So the more you can control the tempo, the more you control the clock, the better off you are. The other thing that ends up happening is, is you have, you have the ability, if you can do that, to eliminate the pass rush in the fourth quarter. And when guys are tripping over their tongues because they're exhausted from getting worn out from you controlling the tempo of the game, guess what? There is no fourth quarter pass rush and you win. Bill Walsh used to say it all the time, the key to winning in the National Football League is rushing the quarterback in the fourth quarter, being able to put that rush on. Well, if you're worn out from trying to defend the run, there's no way you can do that. And I always say this about understanding the run game because I think a lot of teams just don't, right. They think if they pop a draw on third down and six and they get 19 yards, man, they're really running the ball. That's not running the ball, right? That's tricking people. Running the ball is getting in the red zone. When everybody knows the field is short, right? The safety's heels are at eight yards. So you're facing an eight, nine man box and you say we're going to run it down your throats anyway and we're going to get four or five yards of carry. When it's third down and three and you've got to convert a third down and two, you've got to convert, everybody knows you're going to run it and you've got to kill the clock. And four minute offense, can you get that done? That to me, is what running the ball is, I always look at not yards per carry, but how many attempts did our running backs get? The only guy who ran the ball for Kansas City with any effectiveness was Patrick Mahomes. That was it. The running backs didn't do anything, you know, for a yards per carry average or for the attempts that they got. So yeah, I'm big with you on that running game and what it does for you as an overall football team, your mentality, what it does for your defense and how you control the tempo of the game when you can do that. Ask Joe Burrow if he'd like to get out of shotgun and not being shotgun 247 and you know, and all the weight on his shoulders at all times throwing the football.
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Frank Schwab
You know, it's interesting about Burrow is they don't have much of a run game. And I was saying this, certain guys just don't get hurt. Eli Manning and Tom Brady mostly didn't get hurt and Justin Fields and Joe Burrow are hurt a lot. And I the offensive line always gets blamed and sometimes a guy blows a left tackle misses. But when I watch Burrows injuries, could I not argue Joe holds the ball until the last second. And when you don't have elite blockers, you're prone to get hurt. That some of this is on Burrow or a Justin Fields or quarterbacks. Trevor Lawrence has been dinged up through the years. Isn't some of it on the quarterback?
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Mark Schlereth
Well, sure. You know, I always say this, that quarterback like sacks have become more quarterback driven statistic than they are an o line driven statistic. In today's game, man, you got how many bubble screens, how many swing passes, how many tunnel screens, how many three step drop game, you know, your quick game and all that stuff. The ball's out of the quarterback's hands in two and a half seconds on a consistent basis. So a lot of that goes on the quarterback. But the problem that I always have with Cincinnati is you line them up in shotgun. I think the first 25, 30 plays they had two shot, two under center plays, one on the goal line and one in the open field. They're all shotgun plays. So you're asking him to basically throw the football from shotgun. When you get into gun man, you eliminate a large portion of your run game and play action is not nearly as good out of that. So again I'll go to the coaching staff and the way they operate as an offense, they put it all on his shoulders and say, go win us a football game, Joe. So like I would say what is Joe supposed to do? Because that's the offense that you've asked him to create or that's the offense that you've asked him to play in. And so I, I just think they never ever take a load off of Joe Burrow. It's always on him. And frankly, it irritates me that that's the way they operate as an offense because I think you're, you're wasting one of the great talents in all the National Football League because you don't protect him and you don't take any of the weight off his shoulders. You have been playing on the high dive 65 out of 65 plays. Hey Joe, go win it for us, okay? Do it. And I don't, I don't agree with that philosophy of football.
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Frank Schwab
Mark Slearith, that Denver loss, I'm not going to say I had money on it, but let's just say the kids college.
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Mark Schlereth
It was bad, Colin. It was bad.
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Frank Schwab
It was good seeing you, Mark, as always.
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Mark Schlereth
I appreciate you too, buddy. Take care.
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Frank Schwab
He's got the commanders and the Raiders. Good slate of games next week. Cowboys, Bears, Rams, Eagles, Fox has some gems.
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Mark Schlereth
Be sure to catch live editions of the Herd, weekdays at noon Eastern, 9am Pacific.
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Frank Schwab
I don't know if you guys noticed. J. Mac, USC remains undefeated. I'll tell you if you don't know about Lincoln Riley and you have questions. Jordan Mayava, that quarterback in one year has got to be the most improved quarterback in the country. Last year he wouldn't throw the ball away, tried to extend plays. He's the number one ranked college quarterback in the country. Really?
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Brian Kelly
Yeah.
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Colin Cowherd
So we're counting the win over Purdue. That counts.
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Frank Schwab
Yeah. I don't know if you know about Purdue, but their engineering department is among the very best. All I'm going to say is. Okay, all right. Defensive line best since Pete Carroll.
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Colin Cowherd
I'm just kidding.
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Frank Schwab
And Lincoln Riley has taken a quarterback from UNLV who has talent but was mistake prone last year. He has totally cleaned that kid's game up. Jordan may have a Jaden Mava looks outstanding. Like I didn't think. People ask me before the season, USC fans, what do you think? I'm like, I don't know if the quarterback works. You know, he makes too many mistakes. New guy, like a new player.
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Colin Cowherd
Can you just. I know you've committed the schedule to memory, so can you tell me when their schedule really starts?
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Frank Schwab
When they play host the very explosive Michigan State Spartans this week.
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Mark Schlereth
Oh, yeah.
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Frank Schwab
Oh, then they play the most underrated team in the country. Illinois in the fridge.
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Colin Cowherd
Okay.
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Frank Schwab
Frigid Midwest.
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Colin Cowherd
That's a game now. Are you going to that? Do you have.
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Frank Schwab
Absolutely going. I've got my USC red Trojan shoes. Very excited.
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Colin Cowherd
I saw those on the.
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Frank Schwab
On.
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Colin Cowherd
On social media. Yes, yes.
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Frank Schwab
So you know, by the way, they snuck into the rankings at 25th. There's such an anti USC bias. It's shameful.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah, everybody loves Notre Dame. They're. They're owing to. And they're ranked.
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Frank Schwab
I know. And amazing, isn't it? J. Mac with the news.
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Mark Schlereth
No, no, no, no.
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Frank Schwab
Heard on the news.
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Mark Schlereth
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Colin Cowherd
All right, it's time to talk about Those putrid Miami Dolphins. 02. They actually showed well against the Patriots and should have had a shot. TUA with a bad interception late. Here's a miss of Tyreek Hill. Tyreek's reaction, not good. Mike McDaniel spoke about the last possession of the game where Tua got picked and his job security.
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Frank Schwab
I got the play call in, but I need to do a better job supervising all of the orchestration within our multiple personnel groups. So we're to win games, you have to win the game, not lose the game honestly. And that. That is how you lose the game. Yeah, that proficient and prophetic. It was an interesting game in which Patriots got. Antonio Gibson had a big special teams kickoff return for a touchdown. And Drake May looks okay. Like he just needs more starts. He doesn't look overwhelmed, he just looks raw. But overall, the Patriots, that's a big win for them now because the jets look lost. That's a. And now Justin Fields is hurt. So Buffalo's gonna win the division. I had New England as a wild card team. They beat Miami in South Florida. So then that means, oh, Miami falling apart, has to go up to Foxborough as the weather becomes more frigid. So it looks like New England, a big, big win for New England.
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Colin Cowherd
Mike McDaniel looks like a government employee who lost his job in the Doge Cuts. I mean, he is just like gaunt and like, just dry. And I know he. It was cool when they were winning, right? But now he looks kind of down in the dumps. I'm just wondering, when do they try to trade Tyreek Hill? Sell any defender who's not bolted down. Like, they just got to start getting picks. That team needs a full reboot. This is a tear down to the studs, Colin.
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Frank Schwab
Yes. No, we agree there's a lot of things that aren't working, but this is Coach, gm, scouting department, tear it to the studs.
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Colin Cowherd
Okay, I'm reading here. Tua took a veiled shot at McDaniel saying, I was frustrated with the communication. The whole operation was not up to standard. Wow, that's not good.
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Frank Schwab
Wow. Was that today?
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Colin Cowherd
I don't know. This was apparently after the game. He was disappointed. Like, everybody's trying to deflect blame, right? It's not my fault. Hey, communication wasn't up to standard. GM is going to throw the coach under the bus. Coach is going to throw the gm. It's basically every man for himself at this point in Miami. Those are fun to watch, so we'll enjoy that. Next up is the Jags. Colin, this is kind of an interesting one. Okay, well, watch, Watch on screen here. Liam Cohen very upset that Trevor Lawrence. Lawrence would sailed up pass high. The receiver was open. He's like, hit him in the chest. He's pointing to his chest. And Trevor Lawrence kind of is like, all right, settle down. Listen, I don't think this is a huge deal, but the Internet and all these trolls online think this Is like, oh my gosh. DEFCON 1. Here's Cohen on the situation.
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Liam Cohen
That was just one throw. I was pissed. You know, it is what it is. You know, it's not. That's emotion. It's not personal ever. We can win with them playing like that and limiting obviously the turnovers. You know, whether it's. Whose fault is it? My fault was a play caller. Was it a bad design? Was it an errand throw? Was it a missed block? Right. Who knows what that looks like? But I was very proud of the competitor that he was today.
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Frank Schwab
Some people are complaining that Brian Thomas the receiver is avoiding contact.
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Colin Cowherd
What is he doing, man? Drop.
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Frank Schwab
Brutal drop. Yesterday there was also a drop in the end zone by the Jags on a dip by a different player. So again, touchdown dropped. And you know, could, could have been a play that ended up in the end zone. Drop. So I didn't, I'm not blaming Trevor Lawrence for yesterday.
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Colin Cowherd
100 agree again. This is like people who are box score watching. Just a reminder, Jags are up three inside the Bengals ten yard line.
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Frank Schwab
Yeah.
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Colin Cowherd
With like four minutes left. Okay. You could kick and go up six. I don't advocate that. Right. That's stupid. You're gonna lose on a touchdown or you just get five yards, you know, and they, and they couldn't get it. Disappointing. And then, you know, Browning takes it the length of the field. Let's not overreact. People want to dump Trevor Lawrence after this. I'm like, I know he had the end of the pick and he wasn't great, but like Travis Hunter had a brutal pass interference call on fourth down.
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Frank Schwab
Yeah.
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Colin Cowherd
I mean, that wins the game. It was, it was a dicey call. I'm not selling my Liam Cohen stock. You guys can sell. I'm sticking with this guy. I think he's a winner. Colin.
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Frank Schwab
Second week in a row. The one o' clock window on the red zone.
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Colin Cowherd
Oh, gosh.
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Frank Schwab
Just chaos at the end of games. All right, final story.
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Colin Cowherd
Colin. I want to save some room for this. I, I, I'm obsessed with this. So LSLU beats Florida 20 to 10. LSU did not look good. Their MVP was basically the punter. But afterward the press conference open, the first question really ticked off Brian Kelly. Colin, this is classic. Listen, take a listen.
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Brian Kelly
You're micro. You're looking at this from the wrong perspective. LSU won the football game. Won the game. I don't know what you want from me. What do you want? You want us to win 70 to nothing against Florida to keep you happy? There's some ridiculous Questions. And I'm getting tired of it. That football team just worked their tail off to get an SEC win, and you want to know what's wrong?
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Mark Schlereth
You know what?
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Brian Kelly
You. You're spoiled. You're spoiled.
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Frank Schwab
Well, not ideal, although the players probably love it. I mean, welcome to the SEC and welcome to the media. I. I would say his players love that support. I mean, LSU beat Clemson. That does not look as impressive now. And Florida's not very good. So what they're doing is they're. They're kind of narrowly beating teams that are not very good. But that's the sec. And I think now, I do think college teams have a right to get better. We know in the NFL that teams get better. I mean, Bill Belichick, during the dynasty, New England wasn't a dominating September team. And college teams get better. So I don't know. I. LSU is a good football team. They're not an undefeated football team eventually, but they've got a pro quarterback, a more than capable coach. And also, you know, Florida had just lost a game. It was embarrassing. So Florida is probably going into that game with absolute urgency and defending themselves. The pride of the program, the pride of Gainesville. So you're probably got an incredible bad throw by Nessmeyer. Terrible. Yeah. But you're probably getting an inspired effort by a team that just got humiliated. And those are the worst kind of teams to play.
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Colin Cowherd
So it's not apples to apples, but the Eagles had, what, 215 yards of offense in Kansas City. Imagine if the first question Jalen Hurts got was like, hey, you threw for 100 yards. What's wrong with the offense? Jalen Hurts would have calmly been like, we got the win. That's what matters. Now Brian Kelly is like, what? What? Stop it.
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Frank Schwab
What's wrong?
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Colin Cowherd
You know, and I kind of like that. That emotion and everything.
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Frank Schwab
College coaches to a fault, you know, the richest paid state employee, they tend to be very tribal and very provincial and very protective. Whereas, and I've always given Jalen Hurts and Dak the compliment of when those guys step to the podium, no matter how dumb the question, Dak or Jalen Hurts, handle it. Some of these college coaches are so wound up, and it's such a pressure cooker, especially in the sec, they just lose their mind when a reporter goes after them. I mean, we've already seen Sark get worked up at the podium and Brian Kelly get worked up at the podium, and that's the reality. There's a ton of pressure. You know, the player graduates and move on. Yeah, you know, the coach has to deal with boosters and the AD and the fans and talk radio. So these college football coaches get worked up very quickly.
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Colin Cowherd
And you great point. He has the run of the state right now. Nobody could question Brian Kelly. Now they have southeast Louisiana next. That's a dub. But then they go to Ole Miss. That's a big one against your guy, Lane Kiffin. Yeah, I'm very. If they lose that, it's going to be open season on Brian Kelly. If he wins that, you know, he's going to be like, hey, what's up? We took down Lane Kiffin. What do you want from me now? You know, like, so this schedule is a gauntlet. Okay? The Texas A and M, Alabama, Oklahoma, I mean, they got some brutal game. Vanderbilt is no pushover. I know you're up on Vanderbilt.
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Frank Schwab
No Vanderbilt this year. Vanderbilt can play A and M's tough. Alabama now seems to have their act together.
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Colin Cowherd
They're not winning 10 or 11 games with this schedule. There's just no.
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Frank Schwab
It's a typical SEC schedule at Ole Miss, at Vandy, at Bama. Yeah, Oklahoma's good. Oklahoma's defense, juniors and seniors. And they have a quarterback. So by the way, Lincoln Riley and Brent Venables seem to have righted the ship a little bit. One's got their offense humming and the defensive guy in Oklahoma's got his defense humming. So it looks like they both took a couple of years and it. If you watched Oklahoma and usc, they do look more stabilized with very good quarterback play.
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Colin Cowherd
And I know some people in this building who are happy you just brought this back to us to close the segment. Trojans. Hey, how about them?
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Frank Schwab
Very interesting. No, I mean Oklahoma and usc a couple years ago we didn't know if they had the right coach. That's a good. But I think USC's offense and Oklahoma's defense, you're like, yeah, that works. That. That plays. Those are potential playoff teams. Not saying they're getting there. I don't think we'll see what Notre Dame is. I looked at that as an L for the Trojans in South Bend. We'll just wait and see.
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Colin Cowherd
Wait.
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Frank Schwab
See what happens. JMAC with a news.
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Mark Schlereth
Well, that's the news and thanks for stopping by the Herd lie news.
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Frank Schwab
Star quarterback in the NFL, not Joe Burrow, but a star quarterback could miss next week. We'll give you an update in that next.
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Frank Schwab
All right, the Washington Commanders their Sunday game against the Raiders Raiders play tonight against rival Chargers. Division game. Jaden Daniels may not play. He's got a knee injury. Status is up in the air. Not serious, but Jaden Daniels may not play. Now there were J. Mac there were rumors last week people were saying he was limping. He looked, something was off. Well now it's been validated that Jaden Daniels is not 100%. So the big concern many had when he came into the league was not that he didn't have the maturity or accuracy or ability to move. The big concern was he is kind of Finn, kind of a Teddy Bridgewater build and people worried about his durability in the NFL. So he got banged up a little bit last year, he got banged up this year he's fine. My guess is he probably plays the other one. We're at week three and next week Jake Browning back up to Joe Burrow will play against Carson Wentz back up to JJ McCarthy. So reportedly today JJ McCarthy has been ruled out for Sunday's game against the Bengals due to an ankle injury. So JJ McCarthy who got injured last year, right. Remember he couldn't play last year because of an injury. He is now in week three, injured again and he's getting popped. And one of the knocks on McCarthy I think through two weeks is he holds the ball too long. So Jay, now again, what is injury prone I think it's fair to say Joe Burrow may have to change his style a bit. He's injury prone. Justin Fields banged up again. He may have to change his style. So JJ McCarthy now has a serious injury, could not play last year. We're in week three, can't play again. So it's something I said before. Sam Darnold came into this league. Sam held the ball too long. He too often ran into traffic. He got banged up. Justin Herbert first two years in the league was putting a shoulder down and going in the linebackers. You can't do that. So I'm not blaming anybody. But Week three, Vikings, Bengals is a backup quarterback game already.
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Colin Cowherd
And Colin, it's a great point. This is why GMs and coaches want their quarterbacks to win from the pocket. We don't want you running. A lot of bad things can happen when you're on the run. The problem is Burrow got hurt in the pocket. It appears as if McCarthy got hurt in the pocket. What is this? It's about the offensive line, Colin. Minnesota's offensive line banged up, missing the left tackle and the center got concussed. Bagel's offensive line is a joke. If you don't protect your expensive investment, this is on you. Right. I mean, I can't feel bad for these teams losing their quarterbacks. Washington went out and got Tunsil. They did the right thing. And Daniel still got hurt. But down four starters already heading into week three is. Is not great for the NFL. Five, we'll see what happens with Fields and the concussion.
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Frank Schwab
Yeah, the. I mean, I guess I look, I think about definitive opinion. If I'm trying to think of definitive opinions I have through three weeks, one of them is Caleb and Ben Johnson is a weird fit. And I mean, they upgraded their own line and it still feels like he's under constant duress. That Bears offense is a weird fit. The Indianapolis Colts have a really good roster. And Daniel Jones and Shane Steich and you can say what you want, but he plays now with a much more confidence. I think Indy's just got better offensive personnel than people think. I mean, Pittman, Pierce, this tight end from Penn State after the catch is a handful. Jonathan Taylor's a top five running back. So it's like they had the coach we liked. So I think Indianapolis is one of those where we're like, you know what? When you watch them play Denver, you didn't feel like Denver had a significantly better roster. You know, I mean, because Peyton is considered a better coach than Steichen. And Bo Nicks, you think is better than Daniel Jones. But as Mark Schlerer said, Indy controlled the lines of scrimmage. So I think Indy. One of my opinions through two weeks is Indy is better than I gave him credit for.
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Colin Cowherd
They. They have looked that way so far. Yes. How about this one? So Daniel Jones is cooking, like you said. The backup is Anthony Richardson. There was chatter that his agents were like, hey, can we get Anthony Richardson somewhere else? How about this? Washington's backup to Daniels is Marcus Mariota. Two running quarterbacks. If you're Washington, why not try to take a flyer on Anthony Richardson? Just try to steal him from the Colts. Hey, you guys aren't using him. We'll take Anthony Richardson for. I don't. Whatever you want. Fourth or fifth round pick.
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Frank Schwab
Oh, I wouldn't. I wouldn't give up a fourth round pick for Anthony Richardson. You.
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Colin Cowherd
You. You don't think he could fetch that?
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Frank Schwab
I. Yeah, Marcus Mariota is a great kid. I think that ship has sailed. I. I don't think. Listen, ask yourself. Look at what Shane Steichen has done to Daniel Jones. And Anthony Richardson was struggling to complete 55% of his throws.
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Colin Cowherd
That's fair. The counter, Colin, is that we.
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Frank Schwab
And again, the Colts, their offensive personnel appears to be good. Anthony Richardson, they gave up on him.
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Colin Cowherd
Well, that's the problem, though. Baker Mayfield, second, third, fourth chance. Oh, he's awesome. Sam Darnold, third chance. Oh, this is our guy. I mean, look at Daniel Jones. He looks better than he ever looked with the Giants. Is that. Is that. Would you agree? Some of these quarterbacks, it just takes time. So if you're a value shopper with stocks, you buy low. Anthony Richardson's very low. Now, can some smart OC Cliff Kingsbury fix him if you need him?
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Frank Schwab
I don't know if he's fixable. I don't.
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Colin Cowherd
That's harsh. He started like 20 games, maybe.
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Frank Schwab
But Daniel, if you go back and I don't know what they are, Go back and look at Daniel Jones. He won a playoff game. Go look at his. In Minnesota, New York, and they didn't have a very good roster. When I watched Daniel Jones yesterday against the Broncos pass rush, he had a run game. He had time to throw. It felt like he was throwing on second and five. I mean, seriously, it was like the Colts were in a perpetual second and five that it's hard to struggle. I think Indy's just got better personnel than we think. And they came in and Indy came into this game banged up.
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Colin Cowherd
They did.
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Frank Schwab
They were after Patrick certain they attacked him.
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Colin Cowherd
Him.
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Frank Schwab
Yeah. I mean, that Denver pass rush had really didn't do anything.
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Colin Cowherd
So Daniel Jones was. Remember his nickname was Vanilla Vic with the Giants because he was more of a runner. Now they're rebranding him as Indiana Jones. I don't know if you saw this during the broadcast. He's Indiana Jones, he's daring, and he's actually winning. He looks like a better thrower. Let me adjust that better thrower now than he ever did with the Giants. I think he had like 15 touchdown passes or something crazy.
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Frank Schwab
All right. The Colts have a better O line.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah.
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Frank Schwab
Than. And it starts with that. Than a better O line than the Giants. I think Andrew Thomas, left tackle for the Giants is good. He is hurt all the time and the backup is not good. Not sure if it's an NFL player. So, I mean, a lot of the cult success is they protect Daniel Jones and he's got tremendous weapons. But I'll give Daniel Jones credit. He made a couple of throws up the left side, but you were like, oh, those are big boy throws. But again, when you have confidence, when you have time, when it's second and five, when the defense, the linebackers have to be honest and there's a cushion, makes a lot of quarterbacks look good. We'll see you tomorrow.
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