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The Herd with Colin Cowherd
THE HERD - Hour 3 - Lane Kiffin interest in going back to the NFL, Texas A&M being a contender, Tomorrow's Headlines Today, Kayce Smith
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Colin Cowherd
This is an iHeart podcast.
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Casey Smith
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Colin Cowherd
You're.
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Casey Smith
And then you go to Texas A and M. Like myself, we didn't have sports fans in the family. You became this star for Barstool and we met a few weeks ago at the USC Illinois game. I don't buy Texas A and M. Not that I don't buy them. They're obviously good. I like their coach. I know. I feel like they keep beating teams that have just fired their coach or they're going to. I Love Bama this year and it's a little confirmation bias because I'm such a Kalyn DeBoer fan. Sell me in a minute. On A and M. They're athletic at quarterback. They got a lot of big dudes. They have an nil. Why do I need to buy them?
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Dave Wanstadt
Well, first of all, you talk about bias. I mean, I'm wearing maroon and white kicks today. Colin, I knew what you were going to come with. No. And I, at the end of the day, the only teams they can play are the teams that are on their schedule. And I hear you about the coaches getting fired. A and M is also getting those coaches fired at the the way that A and M is playing in all three phases of the game. Marcel Reed in the pocket. Just everything from an X's and o's standpoint is there. The bigger thing for me is that this team is playing for Mike Elko differently than I've ever seen them play for a coach in my entire life. He buys into the culture. Tommy Moffitt, the strength and strength and conditioning coordinator came from lsu. He's got this team playing tough and they just don't look like the A&M eight and fours that we've made fun.
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Casey Smith
Of forever their whole life.
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Dave Wanstadt
Yes. I mean, and I have to defend that every year. And then every November I start getting scared. I'm like, oh, is this going to happen again? This team is playing differently. And just when you look at the talent across the board, you look at the money, the nil. And then you get a guy like Mike Elko and his staff in there like this team is for real. And I understand where you're coming from. Alabama, they're not the same team that lost to Florida State, but they still lost to Florida State. A and M plays, Notre Dame, gets that non conference win. So you have to believe in them. They're nine and oh, in the middle of November. I like that.
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Casey Smith
I, I'm a huge Bama fan. I, I, I don't think Ty Simpson's quite as people project. I think he's a good kid. He sat for three years, was a backup, didn't do much. The world's changed, Nil. Texas has the most money. Texas an has the second most money in the conference. That's the reality is that a lot of these SEC schools are in small towns where car dealers like the rich guy. Well, at Ohio State or Michigan it's venture capital guys or Notre Dame, it's a different ball game. So Bama is not what they were with Saban it's not Kaylin DeBoer's fault. I think they're underserved because of that loss to Florida State and everybody just labeled them because they got dog, they got dragged.
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Dave Wanstadt
Everyone said they were dead.
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Casey Smith
I think in the last month your thoughts on Bama.
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Dave Wanstadt
So I agree with you. The Ty Simpson, he has looked unbelievable. And when you look, they do look a little bit one dimensional because Alabama, they don't run it. And you look at the successful Alabama teams, you had guys that could always run the ball and you look at all of their rushing stats. Right now it's all at the bottom of the sec. That's just not the way Alabama wins games. And I do think under Coach Saban they had a little bit more of a toughness. I agree with you that it's not Coach DeBoer's fault, but there's something about these Alabama teams under Kaylyn DeBoer that just don't look like they are as tough and as physical.
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Casey Smith
They went to Oklahoma, got pushed around.
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Dave Wanstadt
And that never happened with Nick Saban. And that to me is a little bit alarming. Now when you look at what Ty Simpson in this offense has done, especially in the passing attack, you have to believe in them and you know they're going to have guys on defense, but when they're going up against teams with really good front sevens and you know that they're going to throw the ball, what are they going to be able to do because they can't run the ball right now.
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Casey Smith
So you, you never asked anybody their age. You're obviously very young and young people talk to people. Young people don't talk to people like me. So I want to bring up. They just.
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Dave Wanstadt
I'm not that young and I'm talking to you right now.
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Casey Smith
Producers ignore me at every request. So Lane Kiffin is kind of cool and I he's got an identity and a smart coach. Told me recently offensive high school players will follow coaches. Defensive guys want to go to the big schools. They're going to go to your Texas's and your Ohio states and your Bamas. So I think Nick has. There's a Pied Piper feeling in college. I think he'd be great in the pros. What are the people that you know that are young and players and coaches, what do they tell you on Kiffin? You have a heartbeat of the sec. Does he. Is he considering pro football?
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Dave Wanstadt
I think you have to think he's considering all options at this point. But I think that he connects so well with these young players. And you see his connection with Jackson Dart, and he's cool and he's the best at social media trolling, and these guys love that. And you know that anything that comes out of his mouth, whether it's in the media or it's on social media, is going to get clicks. And I think that really fits in recruiting. And you look at all the jobs that are open and he's going to coach five teams next year. It seems like he's just going to be coaching everywhere. But right now, what he's building at Ole Miss, he's making Ole Miss a destination that 10, 15 years ago, these kids wouldn't have necessarily wanted to go. And he seems like he connects to that level. So it would be dumb to sit and say he's not considering the NFL, especially the Giants, with Jackson Dart there. But I think he's a college coach. I think he fits the culture. And he's young and he's cool and he's happy there. He's got young kids. If I was him, I would stay in college.
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Casey Smith
But, you know, I think it's a really good point. I think fit in life matters. And I think he's just snarky enough that he would offend an owner or a gm. Yeah, he's just inappropriate enough on social media, like you guys are a lot that it's.
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Dave Wanstadt
I work for a company that's always inappropriate. That's what we do.
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Casey Smith
So tomorrow you're at Wrigley, it's Michigan and it's Northwestern. I think Underwood's unbelievable. I think he's. Oh, my God. He's just an unbelievable talent. Marsh is one of the receivers I like. What do you make? You know, Dave loves his Michigan. Do you think deep down in his heart he thinks this Harbaugh replacement's the guy? Because, you know, when you hire the guy on the staff, it goes side. You know, I understand why you do it. Players like him, loyalty to the brand. Where are you with Michigan? What does Dave say privately about Michigan?
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Dave Wanstadt
Well, Dave is as authentic as you can get. You know that you've been around him. He believes truly that Michigan's going to beat Ohio State this year, and he's going to believe it. Even if he doesn't believe it, he's going to say it. I think that one thing with this team, they're all so young. You know, you talk about just the way that they had, the turnover, and it wasn't just losing, losing Coach Harbaugh. It was just a lot of guys leaving and just so the fact that they're still even in the mix, they're still, you know, in the, the, you know, the lower level conversation of being able to get in the playoff. They would have to be at Ohio State on Thanksgiving, obviously. But I, I think that this is a great spot for Michigan to be in and I, I see where the nil money, that's where Dave really loves to get involved. Right. Because you know, he's got the, the, the big money coming in. But I mean, if you're a Michigan fan right now, you shouldn't be thinking poorly of this team. They're young kids and Bryce looks great.
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Casey Smith
Yeah, no, he's, he's a pretty phenomenal guy. So when you grow up in Texas and now you live in New York and you hang out in Chicago and all this stuff, how do you view. Everybody said the Pac 12 going to the Big Ten, they won't be able to handle the weather. My take was they'll bring all the quarterbacks. I mean even, even Tom Brady played at Michigan, he's from California. Andrew Luck, Aaron Rodgers, the quality of quarterback in the Big Ten now. Jaden Mayava, Dante Moore, even that Nico E. Maliava's like, he's, he's got the skills. So I think the west coast teams have brought kind of a smarter, more sophistic, quarterback driven offense. But how does somebody like you, that grows up in Texas and Big Ten country, how do you view sc? Do you see him as soft? How do you view that whole S.C. lincoln Riley thing?
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Dave Wanstadt
So I love Lincoln Riley. I liked him when he was at Oklahoma, so I thought it was a great hire. And they actually used to make fun of me at barstool. They were like, do you have like a crush on him or something? Why are you always so high? And I was like, because he's an offensive mind, but he just needs to find somebody to help him with his defense and he's going to get this team right. I've always thought with USC and UCLA and Oregon, it's like they're kind of like the sexy school, but they're not going to be able to handle it in the SEC or the Big Ten. Week in and week out, we're seeing. That's not necessarily true. We saw what Oregon did last year. We saw what Dan Lanning has built. You're seeing, you know, USC is very clearly in the.
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Casey Smith
Very good at home. USC is good at home.
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Dave Wanstadt
And I just truly believe that, you know, you see these different fits. I didn't like that the PAC 12 fell apart because Right before it fell apart, you had a million quarterbacks in that league.
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Casey Smith
The best Pac12 season in the history of the Pac12. The last year they had seven good teams.
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Dave Wanstadt
And we're having a funeral for it. It was unbelievable. And so to look at that. And I think the bigger thing was not even necessarily the weather, it's the travel. I mean, west coast teams having to go all the way to the east coast and back and forth, like, it takes away the regionality of college football, which I grew up.
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Casey Smith
And you lose two or three hours.
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Dave Wanstadt
Yes, of course. And like, time, you know, as you get older and I mean, you know, I know you said I'm young, I'm not that young. Time really does matter when it comes to that. And these guys are so used to rigid schedules, so. But I do like seeing the quarterback play because the Big Ten used to be. It's like, you're going to run the Rock, you know, you're going to have these great big offensive linemen and it's going to be, you know, a 9 to 6 game. Now you're seeing guys like Dante Moore and you're seeing just these teams have these offenses that come from the Pack 12, and that's exciting. Now if they played, you know, week in and week out every single year, it'll start to even out for sure.
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Casey Smith
Yeah. The. So you. Barstool is interesting. So I. I don't really know. I mean, I've met Big Cat and Brandon, you and Port. I have met him. It's a. It's a wild. A lot of juice, a lot of energy, and you've really. You feel like part of the team. But it is. I mean, when it first started, it was like a. It was a boys club, it was a frat. And it was. I mean, when I. That's what it was. And then you walked in, you were. I remember seeing you in Boston and then you moved to Barstool. What was your first week at Barstool like?
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Dave Wanstadt
Oh, my God, it was so crazy because I was used to network tv, doing three hours of network tv like, you know, every single night. And then I walk in and it was like right before March Madness and they're all gambling and like, I was just like, what? What's going on? We don't have production meetings. We don't have, like. I don't have a B block. What are talking about? But it was really cool because I grew up with, you know, a lot of guy friends loving college football. And it was, you know, you get to watch TV and you talk about the X's and O's and you hear the ins and outs of what's going on. And then you go hang out with your friends and you're sitting down for the lack of better terms on a barstool talking about these games. And that's what that's like. And that's what Dave has really built well, is. It's what she would talk about your, you know, your friends with watching a game. But to be the only woman there doing it. We have other women in content that are phenomenal.
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Casey Smith
You were, like their first. You were a big rock star for them.
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Dave Wanstadt
Well, thank you. Especially in sports. Like, you know, we've had pop culture chicks in the office was great, but it's. It's a different world. But I love it. And I love that we've now partnered with you guys because I get both, right? You get to get a little bit.
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Casey Smith
Of TV and then.
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Dave Wanstadt
Yeah, a little bit of X's and O's and like, we have to be professional. And then we get to go yell at each other and tell each other that we're stupid. So, you know, it's. It's a great. It's a great mix. But no, I love working there. And Dave's as authentic as they get, so I'm lucky.
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Casey Smith
Well, listen, this is a pain in the butt for your schedule, so I appreciate you doing this.
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Dave Wanstadt
Please, I'm honored. I'd be here anytime you want.
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Casey Smith
Okay. Well, it's just. God, it's. Yeah. Tried pulling teeth getting these guys to show up Monday through Friday.
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Dave Wanstadt
They're just throwing you guys under the bus.
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Casey Smith
They deserve it. Casey Smith, congrats on your success. I'd love to have you on again.
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Dave Wanstadt
I'd love to. Bucket list. Thanks, Colin.
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Casey Smith
All right, we'll take a break. It's the Herd. Be sure to catch live editions of the Herd. Weekdays at noon Eastern, 9am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio FS1 and the iHeartRadio app. Fox Sports Radio is taking over YouTube.
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Colin Cowherd
And you can be a part of it.
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Casey Smith
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Dave Wanstadt
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Casey Smith
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Dave Wanstadt
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Casey Smith
Atlanta is a spirit. It's not just a city. I didn't really have an interest in being on air.
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Colin Cowherd
I kind of was up there to just try and infiltrate the building.
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Casey Smith
It's where crunk was born. In a club in the West End 4 World Star it was 559 where a tiny bar birthed a generation of rap stars, where preachers go viral and students at the HBCU turned heartbreak into resurrection. How do you get people to believe.
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Colin Cowherd
In something that dead?
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Casey Smith
Where dreamers brought Hollywood to the south and hustlers bring their visions to create black wealth. Nobody's rushing into relationships with you.
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Colin Cowherd
Where are you from? They want to look you in the eye.
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Casey Smith
Where the future is nostalgia.
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Colin Cowherd
Talking to chatgpt she like you really.
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Casey Smith
The first lady to have a Gangster.
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Colin Cowherd
Girls tape in Atlanta, Georgia. Like that's what separates you from a lot of people. And I was like, you know what?
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Dave Wanstadt
You right.
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Casey Smith
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Dave Wanstadt
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Casey Smith
We call the shots. In what way is that degrading?
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Dave Wanstadt
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Casey Smith
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Colin Cowherd
This is the Herdline news. All right, let's go to that big Fox matchup. Rams. Seahawks should be a good one. Matt Stafford firmly in the MVP race pretty much against Drake, may a couple other guys. I think Josh Allen's still there, but we'll see this weekend. The Seahawks defense is feisty. Colin, they are coming to Sofi looking to make a statement. I know they bottled up some bad quarterbacks. Here's Mike McDonald talking about just how good Stafford and the Rams offense has.
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Casey Smith
Been playing great football, decisive. They're putting him in great situations, diagnosing defense at a really high level, handling the protections at a high level. They're really explosive right now in their Past game and then. And then they're converting in some of those. And a lot of those conversion downs, too, which keeps drives extended. So. Yeah, he's playing great football. Yeah. Two of the three or four best rosters in the sport. You got two MVP quarterbacks. Home field's not a thing at SOFI in this space. A lot of Seahawk fans there.
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Colin Cowherd
You sure Seahawks fans travel that well to. To la? I guess I'd want to get out of rainy Seattle to come. Oh, to rainy Los Angeles. Got it.
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Casey Smith
Yeah.
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Colin Cowherd
These are going to be fascinating. I don't know how much three tight end stuff the Rams are going to do. You know, Seattle will be ready for it. I mean, they've used it three weeks in a row. Yeah, I just worry about this, you know, Devonte, Adams, Puka. I know Seattle has good corners, but there's no cheating on the run game with those two. You can't cheat up in the box. Last week you could do that, right? Hey, let's load up on Trey McBride. They don't have much else and they're swarming after Brissette. You go. You go attack Stafford. He's one of the best quarterbacks against the blitz in the league. Colin, you really like Seattle here, huh?
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Casey Smith
I do. Special teams edge.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah. The Rams kicking situation has been mid. Is the case. I think it's.
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Casey Smith
I think it's a close game. Special teams edge. Both teams run the ball. Seattle has not been generating the sacks in the last couple of weeks. They did earlier. Keep your eye on that.
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Colin Cowherd
Who do you trust more? 2 minutes with the ball. Tie game. Matt Stafford or your boy Sam Darren?
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Casey Smith
Both.
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Colin Cowherd
Oh, stop it.
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Casey Smith
You.
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Colin Cowherd
You are sitting on the fence so much today. This is embarrassing. Pick a side, man. Next up. Oh, let's go to a topic near and dear to your heart, and that is Barack Purdy. He's back. Colin. Kyle Shanahan talked to the media yesterday, said he's in Brock Purdy, then spoke to the media. I wonder, is he rushing back because of Mac Jones? Here he is, Brock Purdy talking about week 11.
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Casey Smith
I feel really good, feel healthy and excited to be back and ready to go and lead the guys. So I'm really excited about this week. It's been a good week so far and got a couple more days. Obviously got to finish out strong this week, but feel really good. For me, it's been. How do I feel physically has nothing to do with. I need to get back out there for the political side of things. It's been all about how do I Feel really good to go out and lead when I do get back.
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Colin Cowherd
Interesting for him to reference the political side of things. What do you think that means?
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Casey Smith
Well, Mac Jones played very well. I support that message.
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Colin Cowherd
Is there. Is there a controversy here? Let's say Brock Purdy loses to Arizona. Do we. Is there a developing situation?
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Casey Smith
It's a heck of a topic on Monday.
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Colin Cowherd
I don't think it leads. Broncos beating the Chiefs quickly. Did you see. How about this from the staff. Ricky Pearsall, who has missed more time with this knee injury than when he got shot last year. Okay. He's on track to maybe return this week. We still don't know where Brandon Ayuk is. It's funny. When he wanted his contract, he was all over social media. Now he's hurt. I'm not hearing anything from Brandon Iuk. I don't know, man. I'm feeling. I don't want to.
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Casey Smith
Pearsall was playing very well before he got hurt. He was playing really well. I didn't love it as a pick. Late first rounds. No man's land for GMs. He's played well. He's looked really good.
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Colin Cowherd
If you have looked at the Arizona injury report, it is getting ugly.
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Casey Smith
Brutal.
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Colin Cowherd
Johnson doesn't look like he's going to go again. There look like there was a lot of quit last week in that team in Seattle when they got jumped on early. I know they're going home. We'll see. We'll see. I think the Niners are probably the side here. Anything for you.
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Casey Smith
No, they are. They are. To me I do worry because when you get humiliated like that, you usually come back the next week. But they're missing Connor. They're missing Harrison.
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Colin Cowherd
Harrison? Yeah, they need him.
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Casey Smith
Yeah. No, he's played better Sweat missed practice yesterday.
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Colin Cowherd
We'll see.
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Casey Smith
He.
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Colin Cowherd
They need him back. He's their best edge rusher. All right, final story. Colin. Let's go to Major League Baseball. They announced the MVPs. Weirdly, I don't know why they take so long. The season's been over for for weeks. Shohei Ohtani wins it in the NL and Aaron Judge in the AL. No surprise at all. Ohtani fourth career MVP in fourth unanimous one in the last five years. Judge goes back to back like Michael Jordan. 96, 97 winning MVP awards and Cal Raleigh was nearly won the MVP. But it was Aaron Judge.
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Casey Smith
Yeah, he's. Aaron Judge is a great player. Ohtani is a unicorn historically.
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Colin Cowherd
Wait, wait. Judge is more than a great player. I mean, come on, that's a great player. He's a Hall of Fame lock.
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Casey Smith
Okay, yeah. Ohtani, though, yes. He's not just a pitcher. He's an elite pitcher and an elite base dealer and an elite power hitter. And he can hit for average. Ohtani is just different than everybody else.
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Colin Cowherd
He's built different, as the kids say. So here's a fun fact on Aaron Judge, 13th player in MLB history to win three MVPs, joining Yogi Berra, Jolton, Joe DiMaggio and Mickey Mantle as the only Yankees to do it. Boy, MLB loves its history, huh? I mean, those are some big time names that Judge just joined. Look at that. Got the highlights of Aaron Judge. Yeah. What a great player. Gotta say nice.
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Casey Smith
Well, no. And a good guy.
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Colin Cowherd
Gotta balance out your hate toward the Yankees every postseason.
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Casey Smith
But I would take the World Series titles. How many jeters got what, four or five of those? I take those. MVPs are great. I want titles, obviously. Yes, those are all tilting west coast now these days.
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Colin Cowherd
The best coast, as they say.
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Casey Smith
Yeah, some say that J. Mac with the news. Well, that's the news news.
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Colin Cowherd
And thanks for stopping by the herd lie news.
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Casey Smith
Okay, J. Mac's got his picks coming up. One more herd.
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Colin Cowherd
The herd streams 24 hours a day.
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Casey Smith
Seven days a week within the iHeartRadio app. Search herd to listen live or on.
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Colin Cowherd
Demand, whenever you'd like.
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Casey Smith
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Dave Wanstadt
This is Sophie Cunningham from Show Me Something. Do you know the symptoms of moderate to severe obstructive sleep apnea, or OSA in adults with obesity?
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Casey Smith
They may be happening to you without.
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Dave Wanstadt
You knowing if anyone has ever said you snore loudly, or if you spend your days fighting off excessive tiredness, irritability and concentration issues, it may be due to osa. OSA is a serious condition where your airway partially or completely collapses during sleep, which may cause breathing interruptions and oxygen deprivation. Learn more at don'tsleep on OSA.com this information is provided by Lilly a medicine company.
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Casey Smith
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Colin Cowherd
You know the shade is always shadiest right here.
- [29:42]
Casey Smith
Season six of the podcast Reasonably Shady.
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Colin Cowherd
With Gisele Bryant and Robyn Dixon is here dropping every Monday as two of the founding members of the Real Housewives Potomac were giving you all the laughs, drama and reality news you can handle. And you know we don't hold back.
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Casey Smith
So come be reasonable or shady with.
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Colin Cowherd
Us each and every Monday I was.
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Casey Smith
Going through a walk in my neighborhood.
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Colin Cowherd
Out of the blue, I see this huge sign next to somebody's house. Okay, the sign says my neighbor is a Karen.
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Dave Wanstadt
No way.
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Casey Smith
I died laughing.
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Colin Cowherd
I'm like, I have to know you are lying.
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Casey Smith
Humongous y'. All.
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Colin Cowherd
They had some time on their hands.
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Dave Wanstadt
Listen to Reasonably Shady from the Black.
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Colin Cowherd
Effect Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Casey Smith
Jingle bells, jingle bells jingle all the way.
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Colin Cowherd
Can we get a Thanksgiving first?
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Casey Smith
I'm hungry. Hey y', all, it's Kadeen and Deval, the hosts of Ellis Ever after podcast.
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Colin Cowherd
This holiday season, whether you're cooking for the family, out buying gifts for the.
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Casey Smith
Kids, or crowded in holiday traffic, tune out the noise and tune in to Ellis Ever After.
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Colin Cowherd
On Ellis Ever after, we get real.
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Casey Smith
With our crew about family.
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Colin Cowherd
If you feeling like you feeling, that's.
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Casey Smith
Probably because you're a good parent.
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Colin Cowherd
Friendship. Be careful what you put in your body.
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Casey Smith
Move your body and love it the way you love them cars, that house, them clothes, them shoes. Love yourself, them brunches, love and marriage.
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Dave Wanstadt
You know what's become attractive to me and it's because I've self corrected and.
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Casey Smith
I guess I detoxified myself. Accountability like it has become mad attractive.
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Colin Cowherd
So attractive to me and everything else in between.
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Casey Smith
I've told my most investors embarrassing moment.
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Dave Wanstadt
On this podcast before which was me taking a ziploc bag.
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Casey Smith
So listen to Ellis ever after on.
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Colin Cowherd
The iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast.
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Casey Smith
I want to thank Casey Smith and Barcelonal sports and Dave Wanstadt told great stories. Lucky to have him today on a Friday both in studio by the way. How about that? Like in studio. Yes. Be nice if J. Mac made it in studio appearance. I guess he's busy getting that, you know, that volleyball swollen. All right, listen, Thanksgiving, Thanksgiving is right around the corner. So this is next week is the last like pre Thanksgiving week and this is kind of the time where football feels different. Run games take over, weather gets a little choppy so football gets very interesting. We call it tomorrow's headlines. Today J. Mac's got five big ones commanders and the Dolphins. Isn't that one overseas or something?
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah, you know, I think I took the bait, Colin. This season I've been doing a lot of early week betting and it hasn't been profitable until lately because you start to see what happened last week with the Dolphins and you see what happened with Washington and it feels like a slam dunk. The headline for Commander's dolphins from Madrid will be Tua tapas vailoa. Madrid menu features bite sized starters. Give me the Dolphins here, my biggest bet of the week. I'm ready to get my teeth kicked in. But Colin, one of the cool things, you know, I talk about Chad GPT sometimes. I'm telling you, you, you can learn quickly about the Dan Quinn schemes. Historically, he has struggled slowing down the Miami Dolphins and McDaniels offenses. What he does, he plays the single high safety. And the problem in Washington, Colin, they're very slow at linebacker because as you've noted, they're an old team. What does McDaniels do? McDaniels puts stress on the edges with the speed and the motion. And I'm telling you, like this is good. This is lining up for a big Devin Achan game. He's having quietly a monster season.
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Casey Smith
He is, he is speed.
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Colin Cowherd
Like if you try to match up Bobby Wagner with him on these screen passes, I mean Wagner's had a great career but he's like 35 years old. And you saw Detroit speed just mess up Washington last week. Also Payne, the best defensive player Washington has suspended for throwing that Punch in the Lions game. Colin, I see nothing here for Washington that improves. And I alluded to it earlier, both these teams go on their bye week after Spain. If you're Washington and you know the season's cooked, you got smashed four games in a row. Do you basically have huge plans in Europe this week and you just stay over there? There's no reason to rush back. The Miami fans want to come back to South Beach. I like the Dolphins here.
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Casey Smith
Big. All right, tomorrow's headlines. Today, another Florida team, the Buccaneers and Baker go to Buffalo.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah, it's interesting. Tampa was so good for first half of the season. They've slowed down a lot. What is happening? The headline for Bill's Tampa Bay will be Captain Cooked RB waves. Bon voyage to Bucs defense. This is a, as you alluded to earlier, big running weekend, horrible weather. They're calling 30 to 40 mile an hour gusts of wind plus rain and snow. That leads to heavy James Cook action. And again, this is a Tampa defense. I didn't see them slowing Trayvon Henderson last week, did you? I mean, Henderson had a monster game. Tampa really struggled slowing down Drake May in the big plays. Who does big plays better than Josh Allen? Cook now? No. Dalton first aid. That's his new nickname, Dalton Kincaid. He's hurt again. So I do worry if they have to throw, but in this wind, I don't anticipate it. I think Josh Allen runs a lot and I think one of the craziest stats I've seen this week. Colin Baker Mayfield, last three games, has zero rushes for zero yards. That is absolutely puzzling given his legs have been a huge weapon for Tampa earlier this season. You got to wonder how the oblique injury is. Chris Godwin ruled out. Bucky Irving ruled out again. Yeah, Tampa's. Tampa's in some trouble here. I don't know if Atlanta can gain ground or Carolina, but I do think Tampa takes one on the chin here.
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Casey Smith
Tomorrow's headlines Today, big one. Chiefs at the the Broncos.
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Colin Cowherd
So. So you know the guys on staff to give you a peek behind the curtain. They ask for the picks. And I'm still, I'm struggling a bit this week and I'm like, oh, you know, I have a brand in the NFL and that's going against a certain team. The headline for Broncos Chiefs will be there's BO Use crying Chiefs Mahomesick for Arrowhead. I'm on an island here, Colin. Give me the Denver Broncos straight up taking down Andy Reid and the Chiefs. How about this? Andy Reid, 22 and four off a buy six and one with Mahomes. Everybody citing all the Andy Reid rest stats and how great Mahomes is, how he owns this division. Colin, I'm throwing it all out the window. This is not last year's Chiefs team. Last year, as you said, 11 and oh in one score games. You know who's dominating one score games this year? Bo Nixon, Denver. Now I know they've had slow starts and if you watch them last Thursday against the Raiders, there's no way you can bet them this week. Well, I watched it and I'm saying that's an aberration. I look at some of these things. Bo Nix last year, first meeting with Spags and Reed, 22 of 30. Yeah, 215 yards, two touchdowns in the Arrowhead. Remember that game? They had a lead and ended up blowing it. How about the Chiefs, Andy Reid and Mahomes? For whatever reason, they're struggling against pressure. Remember Mahomes was 3 for 16 under pressure against Buffalo and that's with Rice and Worthy. I don't want to hear any excuses. What does Denver do? Colin? Number seven in blitz percentage, top three in pressures. They're going to get after Mahomes. Can he make the plays? I know we love Mahomes, he's a Hall of Famer, all that. But I just want to know this year, why is Patrick Mahomes struggling under pressure? I haven't heard the media talking about it because they love him. But why is it not there? What's going on?
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Casey Smith
Well, I don't think they have a consistent run game. Sometimes they're a little behind the sticks. I feel like they're in more third and sixes, not third and twos. And I think it's harder to throw and I think there's a, it's a convergence of things with no run game always make. I don't care who the quarterback is, just everybody, you know, Jared Goff, Seattle. They're so good on the road. Why? Because Sam Darnold has a run game. When you go on the road, run games and defense travels. The passing game and the protection doesn't always travel.
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Colin Cowherd
This is expected to be the first game back for the Ohio State left tackle Simmons. Simmons, he's expected to play, you know, returning from that weird absence and they struggled without him protecting against the Jags and also against Buffalo. Colin, we'll see what he's made for. Made up. You know, Denver's pass rush is kind of nasty.
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Casey Smith
Tomorrow's headlines today. Listen, it's. It's a, it's a Good one. One of the many good games this weekend. Detroit Lions at Philly.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah. You know, your, your guy, Dan Campbell. I feel like you have a bit of a man crush on Dan Campbell. You're now Midwestern. He is like Mr. Midwest. The headline for Lions Philadelphia will be this is how we do it. Eagles built for the big dance. Colin, I'm all over the Eagles here. I, I, I'm the Sam LaPorta news that you revealed. Kind of shocking. I didn't know this. He's not practicing again today. Yeah, according to Dan Campbell, that is.
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Casey Smith
You know, nobody knows what they're getting with Penne Sewell.
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Colin Cowherd
I don't know, man. I know that the book on golf used to be take him outdoors. He's not as great as he is indoors. Right up the middle. Pressure Jalen Carter, one of the best defensive tackles in the league. A lot of stuff lines up here for the Eagles to push around the Lions in the trenches. I do wonder though, prime time game Monday, that was a big one against the packers. And now you got to turn around and play another primetime game this Sunday night against a good Lions team. Lions, of course, went east coast, then go back to the Midwest now back to the east coast after the Washington game. I don't know, Colin. I like the Eagles here. Not a lot because their offense is just kind of in the slop. Terrion Arnold looks like he's going to miss one of their safety. Kirby Joseph is go either way. This could be. As long as they don't force feed AJ Brown, I think they're fine. But get him the ball.
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Casey Smith
Right.
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Colin Cowherd
Would you, would you agree? Devonte Smith is good. Goddard's good.
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Dave Wanstadt
A.J.
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Colin Cowherd
Brown'S a game changer.
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Casey Smith
Finally, tomorrow's headlines. Today, Cowboys at the Raiders. I'm surprised you picked this game. I, I didn't have any interest in this one.
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Colin Cowherd
Why? I mean, there aren't many leg ups on the board this late in the season, right? Vegas, you know, the margins are embedding NFL is hard. I, I don't see how this one's even close. The headline for Raiders Cowboys Monday will be Vegas strict poker naked bootlegs fleece the Raiders. I just, I mean, why would anybody back the Raiders in any capacity at all? I mean, Geno Smith feels like a dead man walking. I know they, you know, had a max effort against Denver to get the COVID but they couldn't do anything in that game. The scripted drive and then it was literally nothing the rest of the way. Colin, this team has messed around with like the Tennessee Titans, they look bad against the Bears. You show me what data there is that says the Raiders keep this even close. Geno Smith is a total pumpkin when it comes to primetime games. One in five straight up, when the lights are bright, one in five against the spread like Colin, he's just not a big time quarterback. The concern obviously with Dallas, they had the very difficult loss of the defensive lineman, his passing, and you wonder how a team responds. Everything I've heard out of the locker room is, hey, we're doing it for him. They love this guy. It feels to me like, you know, a galvanizing moment for the team. I think Dallas goes and serves notice here. Coming off that Arizona loss, I think they, you know, at least 35 points against this Raiders defense.
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Casey Smith
All right, good stuff. Also the big game and it's a Fox game. Seattle travels to Los Angeles. I do like Seattle. Mike McDonald took over for Pete Carroll, instantly made an impact. Now in year two, the defense is hyper aggressive. They rotate in a lot of pass rushers and a lot of guys they've drafted. Well, here's Dave Wanstadt, what he sees with kind of a Sean McVeigh on defense and Mike McDonald before he got that Seattle job when he was at Baltimore as the coordinator, they were first, second or third every year that he was there in defense. So he, he, he obviously had a foundation for what he wanted to do. I really appreciate what he's done. And you can, you can do it a lot of different ways. You might get somebody up here that's a blitz maniac and he's going to see it completely different. You can win and win Super Bowls doing a lot of different ways. Yeah, McDonald is, is special. And you know, I still contend this, this league is built through the draft because you increasingly you have to pay quarterbacks, even B quarterbacks, you got to pay them 40 million a year. And so that means how do you defer costs? You know, you can't do like baseball does. With Ohtani's contract and the Dodgers, you have to hit on draft picks. Well, Seattle just doesn't miss on a lot of them. So when you can hit on draft picks and they're highly productive their first, second, third years and you're not paying them, even first round guys, you're not paying them big money. And that's what Seattle's done. They have just, you know, they let go of DK Metcalf and Tyler Lockett and I think kind of the universal belief was, oh, there is JSN01, maybe the best one. Then they go get a kid out of Colorado State and then they go grab Cooper cup at evaluation. That's pretty cheap. And then they go make a deal for Rasheed Shahid and Darnold's a big one. My take was Seattle was going to be a playoff team this year. I had him as a wild card team and I, one of the things I said is, you know, Darnold is so much more athletic than Geno Smith. You got a second year with Mike McDonald's and John Snyder just doesn't miss in his draft picks. So I mean, they just, they just, I mean, you know, certain times in the NFL it's not that complicated. Just turn the sound down and watch and just Seattle is fast everywhere. Wide receiver, edge rusher, corners, safety, linebacker. Seattle just runs. And you know, the advantages of all those west coast teams, they, you know, the LA teams, they got pretty warm weather. You know, San Francisco is kind of mild weather. Seattle gets pretty salty late October on. So they're going to be, you know, there's going to be these opportunities. Seattle has been such a great road team, but they, they got a home field advantage, one of the louder stadiums. It gets really wet, damp, cold and windy. I think they're one of the reasons they're such a good road team is a couple of things. Travel. Your defense and your run games travel. A lot of times, you know, warm weather, team goes into cold weather. The vertical passing game does not travel. But Seattle's built to travel. 10 straight road wins and a lot of them comfortably. So I like Seattle close that, you know, 27, 26, 28, 27, 24, 23 feel. First things first. Next.
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Dave Wanstadt
This is Sophie Cunningham from Show Me Something. Do you know the symptoms of moderate to severe obstructive sleep apnea, or OSA in adults with obesity? They may be happening to you without you knowing. If anyone has ever said you snored loudly or if you spend your days fighting off excessive tiredness, irritability and concentration issues, it may be due to osa. OSA is a serious condition where your airway partially or completely collapses during sleep, which may cause breathing interruptions and oxygen deprivation. Learn more at don't sleep on OSA.com this information is provided by Lily, A medicine company.
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Casey Smith
Jingle bells, jingle bells, jingle all the way.
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Colin Cowherd
Can we get a Thanksgiving first?
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Casey Smith
I'm hungry. What's up, y'? All?
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Colin Cowherd
It's Kadeen and Deval, the hosts of the Ellis Ever after podcast.
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Casey Smith
This holiday season, tune out the noise and tune into Ellis, Ellis Ever after on Ellis Ever after, we get real.
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Colin Cowherd
With our crew about family, love and marriage and everything else in between. Listen to Ellis Ever after on America's number one podcast network, iHeart. Follow Ellis ever after and start listening on the free iHeartRadio app today.
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Dave Wanstadt
Jenna World, Jenna Jameson, Vivid Video and the Valley is a new podcast about the history of the adult film industry. I'm Molly Lambert and I'll be your tour guide on a wild trip through adult films. We get paid more than the men.
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Casey Smith
We call the shots.
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Dave Wanstadt
In what way is that degrading? That's us taking hold of our life. Listen to Gentle world on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Colin Cowherd
You know the shade is always shadiest right here.
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Casey Smith
Season six of the podcast Reasonably Shady with Gisele Bryant and Robyn Dixon is.
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Colin Cowherd
Here dropping every Monday as two of.
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Dave Wanstadt
The founding members of the Real Housewives Potomac.
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Colin Cowherd
We're giving you all the laughs, drama and reality news you can handle. And you know, we don't hold back.
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Casey Smith
So come be reasonable or shady with.
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Colin Cowherd
Us each and every Monday.
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Dave Wanstadt
Listen to Reasonably Shady from the Black.
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Colin Cowherd
Effect Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Casey Smith
Thanksgiving isn't just about food. It's a day for us to show up for for one another. It's okay not to be okay sometimes and be able to build strength and love within each other. I'm Elliot Khani, host of the podcast Family Therapy, a series where real families come together to heal and find hope.
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Dave Wanstadt
I've always wanted us to have therapy, so this is such a beautiful opportunity.
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Casey Smith
Listen to season two of Family Therapy every Wednesday on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Dave Wanstadt
This is an I heart podcast.