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Colin Cowherd
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Rob Parker
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. I was just looking at some of the teams that Harbaugh Jimmy Johnson thing, and I said Jimmy Johnson and Harbaugh are the only ones that hit a home run in both places. It should be noted that Jimmy was such a great personnel guy that when he left, he always left teams with a lot of players. That helps a lot. When Wanstat took over, they had dudes. OneStat was much more successful in Miami than people realize. I think he's the last coach, is he the last coach to win a playoff game in Miami? But like he had a better record when they fired him than Mike Tomlin at the time had in Pittsburgh. But Pittsburgh doesn't fire coaches and it just shows you how, you know, it's just tough in this league. Mark Sanchez is now joining us live. He got Cardinals at the Niners this Sunday, which is fascinating because, you know, I was watching Mac Jones and I mean, obviously there's certain coaches. Shane Steichen made Daniel Jones 10 for 10 in his first 10 drives. Like clearly where you land as a quarterback is incredibly valuable. What is it about Shanahan? I joke that his playbook should be called Quarterback for Dummies. It's virtually impossible not to work. But what is it about Mac Jones Looked that's the best pro game I've ever seen Mac Jones have on the road. They asked him to throw 40 times. What is it about the playbook of Shanahan?
Colin Cowherd
Here's what I would equate it to. If you're a coordinator worth your salt, you're like a GPS for quarterbacks. It doesn't matter who's driving. I'm going to give you a roadmap and I'm going to provide you with turn by turn directions. You just got to execute these plays for me and stay out of trouble. Just stay in the center lane 55 miles an hour and do what I tell you, right? Sometimes you're going to have to go off script, sometimes you're going to have to go fill up for gas, whatever it is. But they're going to give you the roadmap. So the McVeighs, I mean, remember Sean McVeigh? He brought Baker Mayfield in for like less than 24 hours and beat the Raiders in a two minute drive. Kevin O' Connell done it with different players, but Shanahan specifically with Mac Jones, and he started the game pretty shaky. And when you read some of those articles about post game and Trent Williams going up to talk to him and getting him to relax a little bit and then he just looks so comfortable and you can really appreciate when, when a coach can handle that. And that truly tells me if this coordinator is any good. That's like the ultimate way of determining if the coordinator is worth it. How many different quarterbacks have played for you and what does it look like when your superstar is not playing for you? Andy Reid, for example, you know, Donovan McNabb, Jeff Garcia, Kevin Cobb, you name it. Patrick Mahomes, different styles, different attributes, but they're all going to have some level of success. Jimmy Garoppolo, Brock Purdy, now Mac Jones. So this is no different for Kyle Shanahan. The thing that I'm almost more impressed with is how he's doing it with the O line, the patchwork O line that they're having to use right now because they are banged up and they still find a way to get the ball to the playmakers and get the quarterback to play at a high level.
Rob Parker
I know you've looked at Arizona. Ten teams in the league are 2 and oh, 10 or oh and 2. We know that doesn't mean everything. But Arizona, Arizona to me has a lot of good players. I don't know if they have the depth, the consistent line play. They're two and oh now they face the Niners. Do you buy Arizona's two and oh start? Because the Rams, Rams started Denver, started Baltimore last year, started off slowly and made the playoffs. Two and oh doesn't guarantee anything.
Colin Cowherd
It doesn't guarantee anything. However, stealing these wins early on does set you up for success later on in the year. You're not chasing potentially another team and keeps you in pace for the divisional race. My, my, the themes there really are. I do think Jonathan Gannon's brought a strong culture to their team and it's a balanced offense with Drew Petzig and basically Tyler Murray is playing efficient football. He's avoiding a lot of the negative plays. It's. It's making the timely throws. And James Conner, his ability to run downhill, run downhill fuels the play action. That's. That's what really gets this team going. And then Kyler picking and choosing his spots to run. I mean, I know people make the joke about, you know, he's, he, the way he runs, he kind of looks like the toddler running around with the remote control and nobody can catch him. Like, you just can't corral him. And so when he does that the right way, gets down, doesn't get hits, and then decides to make throws as he extends plays and completes them. I mean, it's some of the best in the league. You can put them up there with Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson in those extended play scramble mode situations. My only concern is the mounting injuries that's really going to test the depth and sustainability of this defense. Remember Jonathan Gannon? He wants to confuse you with some of those looks in the back end. And they're down a ton of players. Their, their defensive backs are depleted. So how exotic can you get with these coverages? How much? When you get exotic with coverages, you better communicate. So it's going to be more of an emphasis on guys like Buddha Baker to stabilize that unit in the back end.
Rob Parker
So. Nick Ceriani always surprised me. I thought I did his first press conference. I called people in the league and they're like, I don't know if he's quite ready to be a head coaching job, but he's really done a good job and he works in that city with that culture. And I think, by the way, I think it's also fair to say that people do get better at their jobs. Not just quarterbacks, but coaches. Brian Schottenheimer, I was told by people I trust he hadn't interviewed for a head job forever. He was kind of an old school offensive guy. And then I've watched them the first two weeks. Dak looks great, Clock management's good. Not a lot of penalties. They're getting the ball. I mean, they've created run lanes. I mean, I got to be honest, I'm surprised. I thought this team could be a bit of a mess. I think they've overachieved offensively. You've watched them. What's, you know Schottenheimer, do you not.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah, well, he, he was my coordinator for my first three years in the NFL and the year before I got there. So 2008, he was the coordinator for Brett Favre. They acquired Brett Favreau. Well, Schottenheimer was a disciple of the, you know, Zampisi system and North Turner system. So that was all numbers. You basically use three numbers to tell the X, the Y and the Z receivers where to go, and then you'll add a tag for your slot receiver on what his route is. Well, Brett Favre, that didn't jive with him. He was a words guy. He was an old school, west coast guy. And so there was a clash there. Well, Shadi adapted the whole system, came up with code words that Brett Favre used. So when I get there, he basically asked me, all right, what do you want to do? Because the coaches, the other players on the team, we might know the system that we ran last year, but just because we can talk about it, if the quarterback can't talk about it, we're all getting fired anyway. So what hits your brain? And I know for a fact the last few years, working with McCarthy and Dak, keeping some of those core principles, inserting some of the stuff that he's used throughout his storied and, you know, long career in the NFL. He's been a coach for over 20 years, just never a head coach. He's got the pedigree because of his dad and all the success that Marty Schottenheimer had in Kansas City. So he was primed, poised, and ready to go. And now he's got history with Dak. They're speaking the same language. And then the last point is Dax health. When he's healthy, he's recognizing stuff. He's communicating with his coordinator. He's executing at a high level. And it's obvious, it's palpable. I mean, look at the clip after the game of these guys in the locker room celebrating an absolute monster win in overtime against a divisional rival. And he said, on this team, we celebrate really cool stuff. And so he calls out each guy's accomplishments from the game. So and so scored a touchdown. Yes. And the team is, like, fired up. Those kind of moments. That's why you do it. Colin, as a former player, that's what you miss. The bus rides, the plane rides, the locker rooms after the game. You can tell they have something special going in Dallas now. It's just avoiding all the outside noise that's inherently a part of the Cowboys and continuing to build that culture that. That he started.
Rob Parker
Yeah. And it also should be noted, when you're building a coach culture, it does you need buy in and they have looked really. So pro athletes need buy in. You can't, you can't just keep pounding the table. And so good for Brian Schottenheimer. Okay, so you did the Seahawks Steelers game, which was a fascinating game the second half. I mean between the snafu on special teams and Seattle's defense. So I want to start with Pittsburgh because I had said coming into the season they haven't been able to create cohesion in their run game for seven years. And Aaron just came from the jets who didn't run well and now he's going to the Steelers and I said it's going to look like a better version of the Jets. A 41 year old quarterback who doesn't want to run around without a run game. That is a big ask. So let's take, give us some of your video. You bring, you bring tape. What did you see from Aaron? Good player, bad play that you liked or didn't?
Colin Cowherd
Well, listen, I think Aaron's going to get to the answer a little more quickly than a lot of players playing because of his history in this league, because of all the reps that have mounted up over time. I do think Arthur Smith and him have put together something special. I think they're still trying to figure out how to use DK Metcalf, Calvin Austin, you know, some of their tight ends, Friarmouth, Johnny Smith, trying to figure out exactly how these pieces fit into their offense and get them in successful positions essentially. But Aaron's done plenty to win these first two games. They happen to lose this most recent one. And everything started to go downhill after this interception. So we're going to start rolling the clip here in a second. But just keep in mind he had just tied Brett Favre for number four all time in passing touchdowns before this. This was to surpass Brett Favre. And this is an elite play by Aaron Rodgers and a mishap by Calvin Austin. So they're using a formation out to the right that they use earlier in the game and now Rodgers is signaling. So he's kind of like counter punching off of a jab earlier that he threw a touchdown to DK Metcalf on. Now we saw this. Chris Jones, Kansas City Chiefs, Chargers, Week 1. If that defensive end wraps inside and leaves the outside lane open, this is what you're talking about. A defensive rush that has to be in sync. So boy mafia likes to go inside. Jaren Reed says, hey, I got to cover the outside. Aaron Rodgers reading to the right. Nothing's there. Look how fast he processes, realize the defensive end is inside and gets outside. The guy's 41 years old. He just had Achilles surgery two years ago and he's going to. He's about to throw one of the best throws I saw all weekend and break the record to be number four all time in passing touchdowns to Friarmouth. That's Friarmouth's position, the back pylon right there. He's running a route that keeps him there. Red zone, low red zone scramble rule, spacing. I need somebody at the back pylon. I need somebody at the front pylon. Aaron Rodgers is throwing this thing to a spot where only his guy can get it. These rules and the integrity of these rules are paramount. Calvin Austin, I said it on air. Brings ants to the picnic. You can't go interfere with that lane. Your position is the front pylon. If he doesn't mess with that football, that's a touchdown. In this game, we're singing a very different tune about the Steelers. Rogers mentioned it in his press conference after the game. It's exactly the way we broke it down, not just in this clip, but in the game live. And those kind of mistakes, we're talking that kind of margin of error, we're talking 3 to 6 yards of difference in positioning and spacing and it's a completely different ballgame. Incredible play by Aaron. Complete blunder by Calvin Austin. He's got to get better and remember his low red zone scramble rules integrity. Now moving on to Sam Darnold. Clint Kubiak, his coordinator. I just thought he really put him in great positions this weekend and he's doing some old school kind of west Coast, Shanahan Kubiak kind of stuff. He's going under center, five step plant and ripping the ball down the field. You just don't see that anymore, especially near the goal line. So go ahead and roll the clip and I want you to watch Sam's eyes integrity, his eye integrity, how quick that ball pops out of his hand on a five step drop plant. You just don't see it anymore. This is like a throwback. 20 years ago you saw Elway do that, Marino do that. But here's the concept, basically up top and Jigba's on that post and that's really your alert. Down here at the bottom, the three receivers, that's a concept that you'll get to if the alert is not open and when you realize that alert isn't open and you see Patrick Queen, the middle linebacker, number six, adjusting to your formation and shaded to the Right. You got to hold your eyes for those first five steps and move him slightly to the left to create a window to throw this ball to Barner, their tight end, second year man out of Michigan. So watch the steps. One, two, three, four, five balls out. I mean, come on, Colin. That's like. That's like the old combine drills. That's, you know, old school. Elway, like, you just don't see players do that anymore. And I love that Clint Kobiak still employing those things. I love Sam's eyes on that play. It was. It was a real nostalgic moment and a key moment for the Seahawks to.
Rob Parker
Get a victory, by the way, Let me, before we wrap it up, Justin Herbert, a head coach often in the NFL, can help with personnel. Offensive coaches tend to be better at developing run games and offensive lines. If you look the last six or seven years, the better offensive lines in the NFL at the end of the year are often offensive coaches. Harbaugh. I'm watching Justin Herbert's first 19 games with Harbaugh, and I go back to his last 20 games with Staley, and I don't know exactly what it is, but, I mean, stylistically, he looks the same. He's still big, smart moves well, but he has cleaned up something. Harbaugh's cleaned up something. He just doesn't turn it over. And is that eliminating plays from a playbook? I mean, because the receiving core still feels a guy short. How do you. What is Harbaugh doing here, in your opinion? It just feels like I'm getting just a. A, a cleaner, tighter. Justin Herbert, still big, still move, still big arm, still accurate, but it's different. What do you think it is?
Colin Cowherd
I think he's starting to reach that point in his career where his structure, the. The protocols in place, the preparation and understanding the reads are really starting to fall in line. That Rolodex of coverages that you've seen versus specific plays are just coming up to the forefront of his mind. And he's also understanding this is where quarterbacks really take the next step in their maturation process. We're not just running plays on the field, ever. In practice, you're running a bunch of plays, but you're practicing specific situations. And when the call comes in the headset, do I know why the play caller gave me that play? What's the play caller's purpose? If you can answer that clearly and succinctly, as soon as the play call comes in, you have an excellent chance to be successful on that play. And you can tell it's happening. The one thing I will say, you know, I understand the contrast to Staley versus Harbaugh, defensive guy to offensive guy, but don't forget, I mean, they were up 28 nothing in a playoff game in Jacksonville and absolutely blew it. And that wasn't all Justin Herbert, right? I mean, Joey Bosa got a penalty for slamming his helmet down. Like, you know, come on. So I think things change there if you win that playoff game. But I think part of this is just timing wise with Herbert. He still has the athleticism. He's like the prime of your career to me. You still have the athleticism, but now you have the knowledge, now you have the experience. And now you can get to the answer faster than a lot of other players because you're an elite processor. And so it's all coming together for Justin Herbert. You know, maybe it's the new girlfriend, maybe it's the new offensive system, I don't know. But whatever it is, it's working and it's awesome to see.
Rob Parker
Yeah, it really is one of the really nice guys. Mark, that was great. Absolutely primo stuff today. And enjoy. Cardinals at the Niners. That's going to be a good that game is through the years, they've given the Niners a lot of trouble. They've matched up well, so that's going to be a great watch on Fox. As always, Mark Sanchez delivers. J. Mac, your Arizona Cardinals, you picked them as your shocking team in the NFL, and I got to be honest with you, I should have had them last weekend. I think I like the Niners.
J. Mac
Let me just remind you, in that opener against the Saints, Juwan Johnson catches a touchdown pass to tie it, but the ball gets dislodged. So they didn't cover against the Panthers and they barely covered against the Saints. Those are like bottom five teams in the league. So Arizona needs to close the door when they go up 27 3. Colin, you got to run away and hide.
Rob Parker
Don't disagree. Yeah, but they've given the Niners trouble through the years. They have Kyler Murray running around has given that defensive front seven some troubles. J. Mac Herdline News next Be sure to catch live editions of the Herd, weekdays at noon Eastern, 9am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio FS1 and the iHeartRadio app. Hey, it's me, Rob Parker. Check out my weekly MLB podcast, Inside the Parker for 22 minutes of piping.
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Colin Cowherd
No, no, no. Turn on the news.
Rob Parker
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J. Mac
All right, Mr. Cowherd, let's start with the big one. Sunday on Fox. Biggest game of the weekend, the divisional round rematch of the Rams and Philadelphia. I'm very excited for this game. We've talked about it a lot. But also, you know your guy Jalen hurts. I'm calling him your guy because of that segment earlier. But OC Kevin Patello, Patullo, sorry, says the situation dictates his play calling.
Colin Cowherd
When you look at when we game plan and stuff like that, that's obviously always the, the first thing we do is how we want to push the ball down the field. And as a staff, we work really hard on the plan, especially these, you know, these next couple days to put that on there. And that's a part of it. And sometimes you Know, in game, it just doesn't happen. It's definitely something we want to do. It's not something we're avoiding. So I know going forward, you know, we have the plan in place and if it comes up, it'll definitely happen.
Rob Parker
Yeah.
J. Mac
Zero passing touchdowns. Now I, I have Jalen Hurts in fantasy. I'm a big Hertz guy. You know, I have in top five. I think you're inching closer to putting him at.
Rob Parker
At number five.
J. Mac
I will say this. This Rams secondary is going to be without Witherspoon, who's very good. And you know, I know Kobe. Is it Kobe.
Rob Parker
Yeah, Kobe.
J. Mac
Durant has played well. Early safeties. I think there's an opportunity for Hertz to get some big plays down the field. It is a great matchup. Certainly the number one game of the weekend.
Rob Parker
Yeah, I mean, the, the Rams usually can avoid trouble in the back end because they create such a great pass rush, so they don't need to be. It was a surprise that they didn't take a tackle or a corner in this draft. A lot of people were surprised. They took another running back and another outside linebacker. So they feel like they're a corner shy and it feels like they're. They have to go heavy into a quarterback and a tackle next year. Offensive tackle. But I think their pass rush gets them out of concern most of the time. I mean, Cam Ward again, just. They don't allow a running game. There's a lot of third and longs. So I, I think this is the game of the weekend. I think it's a really good game.
J. Mac
How about the Rams may have found their Zach Bond. Remember how Zach Bond was like a kind of a nobody with the Saints and now he's Landman. There you go. You know, obviously the great. Yeah. So there's a guy who was undrafted and he looks like he has the chops. You know, sometimes, Colin, it's the undrafted guys, the guys drafted late, who have that. They're. They're hungry. They have that desire to rise up and be a star. And Landman, you. He's making plays everywhere.
Rob Parker
All.
J. Mac
He's a ball hawk similar to Zach Bond. I like him a lot. And he may be the guy in charge with. Hey, you got to stick with Saquon Barkley out of the backfield. That's a tall order. Next up, Colin, let's go to Jaden Daniels. Washington. I got my, my buddies in D.C. they are monitoring this closely. Jaden Daniels. This knee injury, they're calling it a sprained knee. Dan Quinn Said Daniels will definitely not practice today. There is the potential potential for him to practice Friday. Now I'm on record. I would not force him back against the Raiders non divisional matchup. I would save him for next week. I believe they have the Falcons next week and a big one. Marcus Mariota is the backup. What do you do here if you're Dan Quinn?
Rob Parker
Well, I mean I think this is with young athletes it's always a game time decision. It's amazing with a good night's sleep, 48 hours. I mean it's right now it's Wednesday. He could feel, you know, I mean by Saturday night he's going to bed. He's like I feel great. So you also have great training staff. So my take is you just have to wait. I would always rather play him. I think playing hurt is almost just. It's a reality of the NFL for a quarterback. You're always playing dinged up by week three and week four for but to your point is it's not one of the bigger games on their schedule. I do think though they've had extra time to prepare because they played on Thursday against Green Bay and if you have an extra time advantage, use it. I mean in this division, in the nfc. The NFC this year I'd argue top to bottom is better than the afc. You have extra prep time, take advantage of it and win the game. I probably play them.
J. Mac
They also lost Echler to an Achilles. His season's over. So Washington could be down. I don't exactly their starter or what would you call them the third down back. You know I know they got Crosby Merritt but if you're down QB one and running back one or two, whatever like that. I don't know that Washington's a layup this weekend against against the Raiders. I have no, no action on this game. Do you have a lean or you're going to wait for the quarterback certainty?
Rob Parker
Yeah, I don't. It's like the COVID year. You have to wait until Sunday morning to see who's playing. I'd stay away from it.
J. Mac
Yeah. Final story colonized to Sammy D. Sam Darnold not off to an amazing start statistically but they did get the win over the Steelers in Pittsburgh. Coming off their victory, Brock Hewitt broke down. What made Darnold so successful against Pittsburgh?
Colin Cowherd
Sam Darnold I think knows personnel as much as anything else. Sam could throw it to the number. Sam could throw it outside as well. Sam's got plenty of horsepower. You can get those gimme hitches. You can, you can get those go routes on the perimeter. You can, you can certainly take advantage of things on the outside, but where's the strength of Sam's game? Where's the strength of your personnel right now? Cooper cup is amazing. Amazing at feeling space between the hashes. JSN we talked about his body control, Mike McDonald yesterday in those areas and his short area quickness off the charts.
Rob Parker
Yeah, I like Seattle in this fight. I think Seattle is a ball knocked loose in the red zone away from being 2 and O and a heavy favorite in week three. So I had Seattle making the playoffs as a wild card team. I like him in this spot. I think the defense is really fast. I think they're really alert. I thought they totally dominated the second half against Pittsburgh. I like the coach. So, I mean, you know, let's not forget Kevin o' Connell knows quarterbacks. He tried to resign Darnold. Sam wanted to be the starter, well paid and have nobody behind him to threaten him. Whereas JJ McCarthy. McCarthy, if Darnold stayed was, you know, they drafted him. They gave up two picks in the first round. Yep. So I mean I, I think you look at that now, I think Seattle, John Snyder GM for the. It's almost like Baker to Tampa for the price tag. They got a, you know, Tampa got an A quarterback for a B price. Seattle got a B plus quarterback for a C plus be minus price. So there's, there is value. If you don't have a superstar quarterback, what's the number? Because you can surround it with more good players. So I think Tampa and Seattle got breaks now. They've got real value at the best position, most important position in the sport.
J. Mac
I just want to ask about this home field mystique in Seattle. So I'm looking at the numbers here. 2 and 7 last season at home and against the spread as a favorite one four and one Colin I I is lumen field that much. Is it still difficult to play in? We know Legion of Boom. It was on. It was very tough.
Rob Parker
They were unstoppable Dome team traveling 3,000 miles with a fairly untested quarterback against a hyper, aggressive, young, fast defense. I think that's a spot for Seattle dome team cross country. I mean, I. And I think Spencer Rattler actually has talent. I mean, I think maybe New Orleans found him. I mean he always had a good arm. He always moved like he's, he's talented. But my take is this is not a great spot for the Saints. Yeah, J. Mac with the news.
J. Mac
Well, that's the news and thanks for stopping by.
Rob Parker
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Colin Cowherd
Feels like New Year's Day, you know. Feels like being born, feels like coming out of the womb. You know, it's like you're in there and it's comfortable, it's safe. And now you're out, you're born. Lights are on, you know, it's bright. Said to myself, it's not just another day, it's today. He's the opposite of a of a house Plant. I mean, he is, he is feel corn field, you know, and just like field corn doesn't need to be talked to like Moses. I'm gonna, I'm gonna die leaning on.
Rob Parker
My staff, Mr. Meow.
Colin Cowherd
You would say karate, yes, karate, no. You know, safe down the middle, squashed.
Rob Parker
I think if you also heard me say, I mean, there's not one gene.
Colin Cowherd
In his body, I wouldn't like immediately trade, you know, Justin Patrick Herbert.
Rob Parker
I also think when you have so much success, you win a natty at Michigan and then you, you, you know, you've gotten to a Super bowl and then you take a job where you're familiar with the state and you get a great quarterback that makes it. It's so hard for like Ben Johnson. Whether it works or not. Ben Johnson's like, I'm going to go to Chicago because the quarterback looks pretty good. Like that's a real thing in this league. It is. You know, if you don't have. I mean, that's why Urban took the Jacksonville job. I mean, you look at it from the outside, you're like, okay, Trevor Lawrence. You know, Matt, the only time a coach has taken a job maybe in the last 10 years where you're like, oh, that's going to work was Matt LaFleur getting Aaron Rodgers on the tail end of his prime and Harbaugh getting Herbert. Like, those were the two. You were like, that's going to work and it's going to work year one. Like, that's going to work. Most of the time you've got a weird owner, you know, you got a billionaire who's impulsive or you don't have a roster, you know, and even if everything's right, this is such a week to week league. But, but Matt LaFleur with Aaron Harbaugh to Herbert, those work and those work instantly. But I mean, as good as Kyle Shanahan is, he has a losing record of. Christian McCaffrey doesn't play. Like it is so hard in this league to win games. And Harbaugh just does it fast and you know, he's just a very, you know, it's not just a personnel thing because the, the Chargers defense was last in league, it's first and they lost a Bosa. You know, it's still Derwin James and Khalil Mack and it's a couple young fifth round corners and it's just, you know, it's. They lost to Bosa and got better, but that doesn't generally happen. So it all works. I asked Joel Klatt earlier about how Harbaugh evolved at Michigan after the COVID year. They struggle. He comes back on, remember that restructured deal at Michigan? And he comes back and in 2021 he came out and like sat for a production meeting with us for 40 minutes and I was like, what is happening? What Jim did post Covid wasn't about football, it was about people. And he became much more of a people person, even with all of his quirks. But what never left him was the foundational things that he believed in from a football perspective. I dealt with two very different Jim Harbaughs, and the one that's coaching right now with the Chargers, I think will win a Super Bowl. Yeah, it just, he kind of lightened up. A lot of people, you know, they get older, they have some success. You know, you sense your mortality, you're on the back nine of life and you start enjoying it, you know, we'll see you tomorrow. First things first, Coming up next, the Toyota Certified User Vehicles Sales event is here. It is packed with great surprises. Choose from a wide selection of low mileage vehicles all backed by Toyota, with warranties that begin on the date of purchase. Because when it comes to quality, the best new cars make the best used cars. So don't miss your chance. Find your certified Toyota today, but hurry. These Great offers end November 3rd. Toyota Certified used Vehicle Sales Event where every surprise is a great one. Inventory may vary by dealer, participating dealers only. Comprehensive and powertrain are limited. Warranty warranties. See tcuv warranty supplementtoyotacertified.com or your Toyota dealer for details.
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Rob Parker
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Colin Cowherd
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Colin Cowherd
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Rob Parker
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Rob Parker
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J. Mac
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We sit down with politicians, artists and activists to bring you depth and analysis from a unique Latino perspective.
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Episode: THE HERD - Hour 3 - Mark Sanchez Analyzes Aaron Rodgers and Dak Prescott
Date: September 17, 2025
This episode of The Herd dives into NFL quarterback storylines and coaching impacts, highlighted by Mark Sanchez's in-depth film analysis. The conversation covers the influence of head coaches and coordinators on quarterbacks, surprising team starts (like Arizona), and the evolution of players such as Aaron Rodgers, Justin Herbert, and Dak Prescott. Colin Cowherd, Rob Parker, and J. Mac blend analysis, storytelling, and candid conversation, particularly around coaching philosophies, QB development, and current events in the league.
Kyle Shanahan's System ("Quarterback for Dummies")
Adaptability of Coordinators – Brian Schottenheimer and Dak Prescott
The Importance of Buy-In and Locker Room Culture
Aaron Rodgers with the Steelers
Sam Darnold and West Coast/Under Center Mechanics
Justin Herbert’s Evolution Under Jim Harbaugh
Jim Harbaugh’s Unique Impact
Notable Harbaugh Moment
Jalen Hurts and Rams-Philadelphia Matchup
Jaden Daniels' Injury Situation
Sam Darnold’s Progress
Seattle Home Field Advantage
“If you're a coordinator worth your salt, you're like a GPS for quarterbacks... I'm going to provide you with turn by turn directions.”
— Mark Sanchez, 04:46
“He basically asked me, all right, what do you want to do? ...if the quarterback can't talk about it, we're all getting fired anyway.”
— Mark Sanchez, 09:35
“Calvin Austin... brings ants to the picnic. You can't go interfere with that lane. Your position is the front pylon. If he doesn't mess with that football, that's a touchdown.”
— Mark Sanchez, 14:00
“That's like the old combine drills. That's, you know, old school. Elway, like, you just don't see players do that anymore. And I love that Clint Kubiak's still employing those things.”
— Mark Sanchez, 16:35
“If you can answer that clearly and succinctly, as soon as the play call comes in, you have an excellent chance to be successful on that play.”
— Mark Sanchez, 18:37
“He's the opposite of a house plant... he is field corn.”
— Colin Cowherd, 39:09 (on Jim Harbaugh)
The tone remains sharp, sometimes playful, and deeply knowledgeable, focusing on insider football insights while maintaining accessibility for listeners. The episode makes heavy use of analogy and storytelling, particularly by Sanchez and Cowherd, to examine football concepts.
If you missed this episode, you’ll walk away with sharpened insights into how head coaches like Harbaugh and Shanahan raise the ceiling for their quarterbacks, why Dak and Dallas are clicking offensively, and how early season starts or big moments rely on more than just star talent. Mark Sanchez’s breakdowns deliver a masterclass in how subtle on-field decisions and scheme mastery separate good teams from elite ones. The show weaves analysis, theory, personality, and some classic Cowherd one-liners into a rich exploration of today’s NFL.