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The Herd with Colin Cowherd
THE HERD - Hour 3 - More on the Rams win over the Seahawks, Caleb Williams working well with Ben Johnson
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Sophie Cunningham
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Colin Cowherd
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Sophie Cunningham
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Colin Cowherd
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J Mac
This is the Herd line news. All right, Colin, let's get started with this. Lamar Jackson, kind of clunker against the Cleveland Browns. Browns did cover the spread. Very nice showing. Obviously, the injury to Gabriel Hurt and Shador wasn't great, but let's. Let's focus on Lamar for a second. Colin, I don't know how closely you watch this. He does not have the same juice he once had. Four carries, 10 yards. I get it. The Browns defense is swarming. Miles Garrett was tremendous. We'll get to him shortly. Here's Harbaugh on the Ravens climbing back into the AFC north race.
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Colin Cowherd
We're five and five. Our head's just above water. We're just above water. We're breathing.
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Sean McVay
We're not even out of the water.
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Colin Cowherd
It's a typical AFC north battle, and I'm proud of the guys for the way they played and what they had to do to find a way to win that game in the second half the way they did. Yeah, I think it's realistic that a Quarterback. And he's not Josh Allen or Big Ben. Big. I mean, look at it. Cam Newton and Big Ben got old very fast, and they're huge athletes. 66260. Lamar's pretty slender. How many years can you take hits? So, I mean. I mean, Cam is as big a quarterback, Ben, as big a quarterback as you're going to see. Michael Vick once told me about year four. He's like, he took a hit from London Fletcher and he's like, yeah, I don't want to do this anymore. I think it was London Fletcher. So, I mean, my take is Lamar is still amazing, but it's not you age. And when you take hits for a guy, I don't know how much he weighs. 215, 218, 220. I don't know how big he is. He's gotten bigger. But I think it. And I also think we have to give Cleveland credit. They have a really good roster. They just don't have an elite quarterback. Cleveland's got dudes, they got a really good defense.
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J Mac
They show up at home. Let's drill down on Miles Garrett for a second. Colin, he is unbelievable. Four sacks. Second time this season he's had four sacks. Here's my thing. Miles Garrett's playing on an awful team, going nowhere. They're not suddenly making the playoffs next year. Miles Garrett turns 30 in December. Colin, I'm just curious if I'm Cleveland. I go into this offseason. We got a lot of questions. I'm looking to trade Miles Garrett. Somebody is going to give up at least two ones for him. He's at a, at a level that's higher than Micah Parsons right now. I think if you're. You're a Kansas City Chiefs. I mean, heck, you're. You're a Buffalo Bills. You've got to kick the tires and say, can we just get Miles Garrett and go in? Because you've got a game plan. Well, what if Miles Garrett.
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Colin Cowherd
What if the Rams would have done that with Aaron Donald? Aaron Donald. There was no duplicate. When you have the best player in the world at his position, and it's a key position, I don't think you trade him.
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J Mac
But the Rams were always a contender with stat.
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Colin Cowherd
No, no, no. The. If you go to the last couple years of Jeff Fisher, they weren't.
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J Mac
Well, that was early, early in his career. I mean, like, you know, you get late, like 30 years old for Miles Garrett. I think you. You get what you can for him at this point. Don't you know, if somebody comes to you and says two ones and a four and a five. Aren't you doing that instantly?
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Colin Cowherd
No, Cleveland's already got enough ones. Cleveland doesn't have a first round pick shortage. Cleveland has a quarterback shortage. They don't have a short. When you have the best player in the world at any position and they're still performing at an elite level, I'm not trading them.
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J Mac
But Dallas just did that.
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Colin Cowherd
No, no, no, you're not listening. Mike is not close to Miles. How many four sack games does Micah have? Miles Garrett is literally next to lt the most dominant edge rusher in the history of football. But Mike is a fourth, fifth best. I take Max Crosby. I would take T.J. watts better against the run. I'd take Miles Garrett. Mike is a really elite edge rusher. He's not the top three in the sport. I take Aiden Hutchison over Micah Parsons. Absolutely. O my. Okay.
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J Mac
I did not expect it would go there. Okay, let's move on to the Bears and Vikings. Colin, Bears get lucky once again. Hey, better to be lucky than good sometimes. Let's focus on JJ McCarthy for a moment, shall we? 16 of 32 for a buck 50. Spraying the ball all over the yard and showed his frustrations on the sideline throughout. I mean, he's just missing throws. That was a terrible one right there.
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Colin Cowherd
I don't know.
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J Mac
Kevin o' Connell was asked about JJ after the game and I don't know. Listen to this.
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Colin Cowherd
He was frustrated and I just, I just kept telling him, you know, feet and eyes, feet and eyes and the things that we saw throughout the week on the practice field, you know, make it about that. You know, with a young quarterback, there's going to be a lot of things that we'll pinpoint and continue to highlight and tie that preparation throughout the week and our plans to, you know, what he does well and continue to coach the things that where we feel the emphasis needs to be on. Is there a level of performance that he would need to get to for you to consider whether he's just be replaced in the game? Yeah, I don't. I'm not going to get into any of that right now.
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J Mac
Oh, not a resounding vote of confidence. That being said, Wentz is toast for the year. The backup is his kid, the rookie from Minnesota, Brosmer or something like that. Colin again, McCarthy wasn't good. And you look at the numbers this season. These are Jared Goff, like with Jeff Fisher, if you remember those days, you referenced it earlier.
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Colin Cowherd
I would just keep playing him to the end of the season. You've got to get an answer. Maybe it pops. I don't think there's any reason to bench him. I just think, listen, you know what? You gave up a fourth and a fifth just playing the rest of the season. This is not a situation where he's got a defensive coach and no legitimate receivers. Now, Jordan Addison had two ugly drops, but this is. This is a good tool belt for a quarterback to have. All the weapons are there. I would just give him another. How many games left? Six, seven starts. I just keep starting him, keep playing him, get the reps. Maybe it clicks. There's no reason to rush. Kevin OConnell's job is not in danger. Justin Jefferson, still in his prime. It's. It's a good operation. Sometimes you just. You don't have. Again, it's my media criticism. You don't have to rush anything. Just let it play out. You're not a Super bowl team with him. Sometimes you need to get answers and you have to have them solidified so you can go back to the owner and GM and go, okay, we have a definitive answer. If you, if you just try to mess around with him now, some people in the room may be like, well, he deserves it. Just keep starting him, keep giving him reps. So at the end of the year, three or four people, owner, gm, head coach, coordinator, can all go in a room and all agree yay or nay. That's why I think you just have to find the answer. There's no hurry.
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J Mac
So Michael Penix, remember, started like four or five games down the stretch last year. He's the starter this year. He has not been great. He's going to start next year when he comes back from this injury. You got to give these guys time. You can't be like, hey, five games. Bench him like that. I don't know why the media so focused on McCarthy like that. Final story is the Cowboys tonight. The big Quinn and Williams debut. Yes. The new defensive tackle they got from my Jets. He is itching to go. Here's Quinn and Williams on his debut tonight against the Raiders.
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Colin Cowherd
I'm super excited. I'm like you said, man, I haven't played a game in a long little minute. So I'm super excited. Not only to play a football game, but to play for this organization, man. To play for this team, to play for the guys in our defensive line room. They took a chance on me and traded for me and did the things that they feel like I can come in to contribute and help this organization go in the right direction and that's all I plan to do. So. Wasn't there a movie called Escape from New York? That's what this is. Sauce Gardner and Quinn and Williams Escape from New York. I'm excited to watch him play. It's a weird game. I mean, I, I, the Raiders don't do anything right. Three and a half the hook. Be careful.
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J Mac
But I, you got a score. Come on, let's see. Let's hear it.
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Colin Cowherd
28, 24. Cowboys. Wow. Close.
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J Mac
I'll go 27. 17 cowboys. By the way, more excited for Quinn and Williams tonight or Sauce Gardner against the Chiefs Sunday. Colts. Chiefs.
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Colin Cowherd
Which are that, yeah. Chiefs are favored in that game. I think.
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J Mac
Three and a half.
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Colin Cowherd
Yep.
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J Mac
You got to factor in Sauce Gardner.
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Colin Cowherd
Colin. Oh, I can't wait.
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J Mac
Hey, it's nice to see jets, you know, itching toward maybe the postseason. That's, that's fun. I can root for them because the team ain't going anywhere.
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Colin Cowherd
J Mac with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by the herd. Lie news. One of the craziest games had to be the Rams holding off the Seahawks. And I just want to bring back a couple of minutes with Sean McVay, the energized coach of the Rams. There's his post game celebration on. From an atmosphere perspective, what was it like this, this very tough divisional matchup that came down to the end? What was the intensity like on the sidelines?
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Sean McVay
I'll tell you what, I love this group. They energize me, Colin. And I tell you just the way that these guys stay connected. It was a unique game. There wasn't a lot of possessions and plays that the offense had, but our defense kept making him snap it one more time, forcing turnovers, tightening up in the red area, being good in crunch time situations, guys stepping up. Ethan Evans, you know, so we're finding different ways to win. We've had examples where we put it all together and then we've had examples where we have to be able to play off of one another and ultimately come away with more points than the other team. And that's a great football team. But I was fired up for our group and I just love the resolve of this team and the way that they stay connected, most importantly. And I was fired up. My mom's going to be yelling at me for the curse words. I got to be careful having a two year old around. He repeats everything I say, so I got to clean up the language.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah, those two year olds are like their parents. They say everything you say. You're going to hear back later. The when you. You guys have had success with Darnold and Sam sometimes can play a little fast, a little frenetic. And Coach Shula has done that on your staff. Did. I thought a couple of times. My interpretation was Sam saw stuff late. He was just a beat late. Is that scheme coverage, pass rush? Why the success against Sam? Because Sam had played mostly clean this year, but he was late on stuff. What do you credit that for?
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Sean McVay
Yeah, well, I think Sam has done a great job and I totally agree how well he's played. I think it's the epitome of rushing coverage playing together. And that's why I always think stats are for losers because we had zero sacks. But those four interceptions were such a great combination of he gets sped up with rushing coverage. You feel that pocket collapse. He has to deliver the ball earlier than he wants. I mean, you look at Puna Ford coming free. That forces Darius Williams pick. We had a bunch of examples on all four where it was a combination of he's sped up or he's having to accelerate his process of reading with his feet. And then guys are in windows that maybe they shouldn't be because he's not able to see it and play on the time and rhythm that he wants. But it was a great job by our group as a whole, bringing it to life. And I think you see on all four of those interceptions, the consistent theme is there's a push in the pocket, there's somebody flashing across his face and there's guys connected and in their spots on the back end.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah. When you were in the second and third quarters, you guys barely had the ball. When you would talk to Stafford was your sense, listen, let's just play clean. Let's not give many short fields here. They're athletic enough. Or were you getting frustrated? Because, I mean, there was a spot. But an hour and a half period where you didn't have the ball much. Is that that cycle, that, that period? What are you, what are you doing as a coach? Are you like, you're making defensive plays? I'm comfortable with it. Or are you on the headset with Matt and saying, let's try this, this, this. Are you staying on the game plan?
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Sean McVay
Yeah, I'm with the defense during those things. And then we have dialogue. It was, it was frustrating. Just when you look at it from an offensive vantage point because, you know, you have the first four drives of the game where you go right down, you end up, you know, missing on a fourth and one scoring, you Score again. And then our fourth drive represents a three and out where we didn't do what we were supposed to do. Then the next time we touched, that's with eight minutes left in the second quarter. Then you come back midway through the third quarter and you have a two play sequence where we turn it over. So you've had five plays in what's probably real time, an hour and a half. Like you mentioned, it is frustrating and it can get a little misleading when you go back and you watch it. You know, the margin for error slim against a great team like that. But our guy stayed in the fight. And I thought Matthew did a phenomenal job of being able to play the game the way it needed to be played. We didn't able to, we weren't able to sustain drives and just, you know, the possession was how it was. He didn't have as many opportunities, but he took care of the football, got the ball where it was supposed to go. They didn't take negatives. We did some things pre snap. That's uncharacteristic. But we'll look forward to being able to clean this up. And like I said in that locker room, it's a blessing for us to be able to learn from it. Against an excellent outfit like yesterday was.
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Colin Cowherd
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J Mac
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Colin Cowherd
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Sophie Cunningham
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Sean McVay
Yeah, I think. I think it helps him, you know, when we do do the few plays a week. But I think he's just playing really well. I think the guys around him are playing well. I think he's really understanding how to be able to play. Like, this is where you see the 17 years of experience and understanding. You know, where are those spots that I can be more aggressive? Where can I be smart with the football? I think guys have played well around him. And, you know, the best part is, is is he's so grateful to be able to get the win. And I thought he did really what he could relative to how the game unfolded. There was a couple bad plays that I had on some g. On some second down and 10 situations that I didn't help us. But he's just doing a great job of understanding the totality of how the game's supposed to be played, you know, through the quarterback, but from a coach's vantage point. And it still is aggressive, but it's not reckless.
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Colin Cowherd
I want to ask you before we go, you're very progressive. You very much follow the analytics, but there are moments in games where I do. I always call it manhalytics, where I just want to see men make plays. I'm not going by the book. I trust my team. How I want you viewed as one of the smarter guys in this sport. With analytics, are there ever times that you literally get on the headset or you talk to Matt and you're like, yeah, we. I'm just gonna do this. I. I just feel this. How do you weigh analytics? 100. I.
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Sean McVay
Well, here's the thing that I would say I have tremendous respect for taking all these things in for the input, but in a lot of instances, they got all the answers and no accountability to the outcomes, you know, and so I do think there's a feel for the flow of the game. There's 22 moving parts that are unprof predictable. And it's not just these decisions aren't made in a box. But you're betting on people. You're betting on different scenarios, situations. What are the matchups based on what you're projecting schematically, you know, and so all those things weigh into it. But I thought our 4th down conversions offensively were key and critical. That led to scoring drives. Whether it's our first touchdown from two yards out from Kyron, whether it ended up being a fourth and one run where he goes for 34 and then we end up hitting Devonte two plays later. So guys have done a good job, but it's a part of it. It's not the only part of it because I just think this game has so many moving parts with 22 variables every single snap.
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Colin Cowherd
Who's your leader? On defense, it's young. Who's your leader?
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Sean McVay
Well, we've got great leaders across the board. I think what's cool is we've got captains on all three levels where Kobe Turner, Nate Landman, and then Quentin Lake, you know, they've done a great job, I think, in, you know, innately some of these guys that are thrust into a leadership role, the communication. Landman's such a great communicator. Quinton Lake's been outstanding, but those three captains. But I could name some other guys that stepped up in a big way. I think the cool thing is we got a bunch of guys that have leadership capacity. Those were the guys that were voted on with captains. But there's a lot of guys, you know, you don't have to be a captain to be a leader. And I think, you know, our team's got a lot of guys with those natural traits and characteristics.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah, it, it, it's interesting when he talks about analytics last night, as JMac pointed out, Detroit kept going for it on fourth down. And I, a lot of times I watch these games and I'm like, are you home? Are you away? Like, I think it's very difficult to me, I don't love Detroit last night. Keep going for it. Keep going for it. Why? Because the interior D line of the Eagles is the best in the sport and there are analytics. Dave Roberts in the World Series, you know, there was some stuff that, that he didn't buy. The book he went with. Yeah, Miguel Rojas. I trust him. I kind of feel like he's going to make a play and, you know, I guess politics has some of that too, where there's some instinct. You've been around, you've run a lot of campaigns, you kind of have a feel for stuff. But Yeah, I mean, I, I, I, I always use the term analytics. Something else has been brought to my attention. I don't really pay attention. I don't keep track of this, but I've been told that the blazing five went five and oh, last week. The heater continues. I am hitting on a 61.8%. That's the good news. The bad news is I don't like the lines at all this week. I like the Green Bay line and that's about it if CJ Stroud plays. I like the Texans getting a bunch of points against Buffalo, but both of us had a very good weekend. But I want to go back to the analytics part again. I believe in getting all the information in whatever it is, politics, sports, Wall Street, Tech, just give me all the information. But there is a moment in gay. Analytics doesn't weigh momentum. Analytics doesn't weigh. Well, I've got an injured right guard and the Eagles defensive interior is the best in the sport. Am I home or away? What's the weather like? Are we playing with a ton of momentum or confidence? And like last night, I thought, like you said, the line was, Dan Campbell was on tilt. I'm just gonna go for it. And I'm like, I and Greg Olson and I would argue on this, there are times in games I just want the points. I like playing with leads. When you play with a lead, you force teams to make decisions they wouldn't have trailing or wouldn't have leading. So I like to lead football games early and late.
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J Mac
The NFL isn't blackjack. People are trying to act like it's, hey, play by the book. You know the rules. This is what you're supposed to do. That's not what the NFL is, Colin. For example, you know, you and I on this show, we have certain topics we're going to cook and they're going to be awesome. But the analytics say, oh, you can't talk about that team or that sport. It's not going to work. No, we understand each other and know what can pop. Look at Mike McDaniel. Did you watch that? Yeah, Dolphins. I was losing my mind. Okay, all you need to win the game is a field goal from like the two yard line. Oh, the line was two and a half. I was on Dolphins. And he goes for it and they fail. And I'm like, what the hell are you doing? And they go to overtime. They get lucky. But like, sometimes you just gotta like, go.
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Colin Cowherd
I think that be smart.
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J Mac
Forget the analytics.
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Colin Cowherd
That reminded me that Mike McDaniel move reminded me of a Brandon Staley move when he went forward against the Raiders deep in his own territory.
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J Mac
Oh, that's right.
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Colin Cowherd
And you're like, bro, what on earth are you doing? Even if you pick the first down up, you're still three to four first downs away from a field goal attempt. Like, so you have to weigh the pros and the cons. If I taking a risk here, like in the Miami game, my take was, dude, you're in Berlin. It's an. It's an ugly game.
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J Mac
Was it Berlin?
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah, I think it was Berlin. You're in an ugly game. Washington doesn't have much. They're on a backup quarterback, kick the field goal, take the lead over in Europe, and if they beat you, they beat you. And that was a prime example where it just drove me absolutely crazy.
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J Mac
Some of these coaches make really puzzling. Even what's his name, Eagles coach Sirianni last night, like some of the decisions he was making in his own end. The twist push was not working. Colin, he still went to it with, I think the backup center. It failed. And now you gave Detroit three free points. I'm like, man, what are you thinking?
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Colin Cowherd
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Colin Cowherd
By the way, is it just me or is Matt Hasselbeck still got his doubts with Caleb Williams. I know he likes Ben Johnson, but here was Matt earlier on if he buys Caleb Williams and The Bears At 7 and 3, Caleb is a young.
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Sean McVay
Player learning on the fly and as he's learning they're winning, he's morphing into Ben Johnson's kind of quarterback. Is he there? No, I don't think he is. He's really not. But they seem to find ways to win. That's what happens with DNA culture setter type coaches. You set a standard and an expectation for the details and the discipline that are going to happen in your organization every single day. Do I think this is their year.
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Colin Cowherd
Without after I say all that?
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Sean McVay
No, they haven't really beat anybody but the schedule is getting tougher here. We'll find out who they really are.
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Colin Cowherd
You know what's interesting when you say they haven't beaten anybody, it's so funny because the Teams with the best records. Philadelphia doesn't really have an offensive identity. Rams are really, really good and a very clean version of the best team in the league. Patriots have an identity but are really young at quarterback. And Denver is uneven, but great late. It's been, I mean, one of the teams that week in and week out in the last six weeks. There's two teams that just look like the best teams. Rams, New England have beaten teams mostly soundly. Play clean football, don't make a ton of mistakes. Everybody else, I mean, there are variations of why you shouldn't like them. Saquon Barkley's inability to hit on big plays. This year, what's Philadelphia's offense? They keep winning. Denver, you don't quite know what you're getting. They're uneven. Great late struggle early yesterday they scored an opening drive. They hadn't done that in two months. So I still think, like, I still think Seattle is a handful. I think they're young and kind of reckless and make mistakes and have giveaways. I would, I would, I would have no interest. You know, the two teams I wouldn't want to play in the playoffs, Seattle, because they have knockout potential. You could find yourself down 21, nothing fast against Seattle. They're just going 100 miles an hour. And in the Colts, because everybody would say, well, it's Daniel Jones, you'd go in as a favorite and all of a sudden you end up going to Indy. You know, you're Buffalo, you're a wild card team because the Patriots, you know, you look at the NFC playoff picture, right now is the team that would just horrify me. Because if you played the Rams or the Eagles, you would be an underdog, right? You'd be like, well, you shouldn't beat them. Everybody thinks you should beat Seattle. If you win your division, like, like Tampa wins your division and they've got to go play, you know, they, they get to go play Seattle at home and you think, oh, we're a favorite, we're at home. Yikes. Seattle is a total handful. If you go over to the afc, it's similarly with the Colts. The Colts are going to win their division. They're going to play a home game. You know, if you're the Bills and you go to Indy, everybody in the world thinks, or you're, or, or you're Baltimore, you're Pittsburgh and go to Indy, right? Everybody thinks, well, it's Daniel Jones. I'm telling you, the Seahawks roster and the Colts roster. Young, athletic, getting better, ascending, little mistake prone. Daniel Jones can be a little mistake prone. Sam Darnold little mistake prone that keeps you out of the super bowl, may keep you out of a conference championship. But I look at the Colts and I look at the Seahawks and no thanks. Those those teams have dudes everywhere and most of the the Seahawks may be a dog in their first you know, they'll go to Tampa and be an underdog and everybody's like, oh, bakery's at home. Yeah, I wouldn't, I would not want to face Seattle at all. And oh, by the way, we mentioned this earlier. Philadelphia very interesting. Lane Johnson is going to be out for probably a month. It's not season ending. Jalen hurts Without Lane Johnson. 5 and 9 and a passer rating in the 70s. So you think the Philadelphia offense is struggling to find an identity before the game last night? He's a five time all pro offensive tackle, arguably best right tackle in the sport in a long time. All right, well, first things first. Kind of a rough Sunday for Nick Wright old friend Nick Wright. Little wobbly, little wobbly on the ropes. Nick Wright next. People talk a lot about athletes performance, but what about your own? QuestHealth.com can help you understand where your health stands. With Quest, you can buy your own lab tests online, no doctor visit required. Quest has a huge selection of lab tests for everything from fitness to heart health and more. Just buy a test online and visit a nearby Quest location for sample collection. You'll get fast results online and for a limited time you can save on select lab tests@questhealth.com, use the code HERD10 at checkout.
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Colin Cowherd
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