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Robert Griffin III (RG3)
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Rob Parker
You're listening to Fox Sports Sports Radio. The Heisman Trophy winner a Pro Bowler, eight years in the NFL and now he's a Fox Sports NFL and college football analyst. Love having him on the show a couple of weeks ago. Let's bring him back. RG3 Robert Griffin is now joining us live. I want to start with some college football. So I watch usc, Notre Dame. I thought sometimes, Robert, games are predictable. It was going to be cold weather. I think Notre Dame is built for it. They're a very, very, very good running team. USC has not shown an ability to go on the road get play phys football consistently. I watched Notre Dame and my take was I looked at their schedule as I was watching it and I thought they don't play another ranked team, Robert, you know, college or pro football, especially college, they're built for bad weather. If they, they can win without throwing the football. I think Notre Dame is not only a playoff team, I think they're going to have success. I don't know if there's a team built for January and December more than Notre Dame or am I a little hyperbolic on the Irish here?
Robert Griffin III (RG3)
No, you're not hyperbolic. And I know you follow the USC children's program pretty closely. It has been a problem for Lincoln Riley to get them to travel. But when you, when you look at Notre Dame and the way that they're built with C.J. carr, you got love at the running back position. These guys you, there's two things that travel in big time college football late in the season, it's a running game and it's your defense. They have both of those things. So if Notre Dame wins out, I'm with you. They, they make it to the College Football Playoff and I think they do some damage there.
Rob Parker
Yeah, I also, you know, what do we make of usc? I had this discussion this morning with somebody I respect. I said I think Lincoln Riley's smart. I think he's a good play designer. I think Jaden Mayava, I watched him at unlv. I never thought he would be this good. But could we argue maybe he's not a great culture creator. This team I'm, we're four years in now, they don't travel well. If you throw a little rain, little physicality, I mean, Robert, they don't travel well. Maybe this is just what they're going to be.
Robert Griffin III (RG3)
It comes down to whether you believe having a team travel all the way from the west coast into middle America was really the best decision for this USC program. I think that Lincoln Riley is a great coach. I think he's a great developer of quarterbacks he's got Jaden Miaba playing out of his mind. And ultimately it comes down to who else in the building can be. Can be that culture creator for them. Some of the best head coaches I've ever played for set the culture, gave the motivational speeches, but it was the strength coach, it was the defensive coordinator. Those are the guys that, that really set the tone day in and day out. And you know, we had the issue with Lincoln Riley and Alex Grinch there for a while and he fixed that, bringing in Dan Lynn. But at the end of the day, they have not been able to figure out that recipe. And I think it also goes back to the transfer portal. It's really hard to build a roster in college football today. Making no excuses for Lincoln Riley. I think he's phenomenal. But at the end of the day, you do have to win football games.
Rob Parker
Yeah, no, it felt like that Michigan game last year where they were in it. But they can't stop the big leaks in the run defense. They just, they just can't put them on the road. Little chilly weather. It's not the same program. So I watched Ohio State and Wisconsin's not a good, you know, comp. Because there, there really is a program there. I mean, catching passes was a problem, like open stuff. But I watch Ohio State's defense and Robert, it's by college standards, there's not a lot of windows open. Like you need an elite quarterback throwing into small windows. And Julian saying of all these quarterbacks, he doesn't make a lot of mistakes. I don't know. It feels this defense might carry him. I don't know. I mean, from a collegiate standpoint, is Ohio State to you, head and shoulders above the country?
Robert Griffin III (RG3)
I don't believe they are. I believe Indiana is the best team in the country. And my reason for saying that isn't just solely based off of how the two teams played. Against Illinois. I saw an Ohio State team that took advantage of the mistakes that Illinois made and they capitalized on them. But I saw an Indiana team that went out there and absolutely dominated them from the start of the game to the finish. And they gave up two rushing yards in that game. So it's not a transitive property, conversation or argument. It's just more of what I saw with my own eyes. And I think Fernando Mendoza is playing lights out. But to speak on Ohio State, I just think Julian saying is not getting the attention that he deserves to because I believe he's going super sand when it comes to playing winning football. I know he Leads the country in pass efficiency and completion percentage. And this past week he throws for 393 yards and four touchdowns. I thought he needed that type of game to people to really understand how well he is playing. He's my front runner for the Heisman Trophy and I know he's got Jeremiah Smith and Tate out there at wide receiver, but at the end of the day, someone has to steer the ship. And that's why I think Julian Saying is the Heisman front runner right now in Ohio State. You talk about that defense, you're going to be having to have to have a quarterback that has the utmost confidence to throw into traffic and use ball placement to beat them. So your point about small windows is spot on.
Rob Parker
Yeah, just. They're just. It's. It's NFL ish where you, you better, you better spin it because you're not getting a lot of wobbly stuff downfield and not working against the Buckeyes. Okay. I want to talk about Drake May. How is Drake May? I mean, I know Mike Vrabel smart. I predicted they'd be a playoff team. How has he grown this much in one off season? He is accurate. We always knew he was big and moved. How do you explain his ascension this quickly?
Robert Griffin III (RG3)
I think with my. I think it's Mike Vrabel and you can talk about offensive coordinator this playmaker that. I think it boils down to a culture builder, a culture creator where you have an identity. Anywhere Mike Vrabel's been, he's always been able to create that identity. The Titans are missing him right now because they don't have an identity. So you bring him into the Patriots organization and you have this quarterback who's got a big arm. You know, he can make plays with his feet and Variable sits him down and says, this is all I need you to do. He didn't throw the football 35 times, he didn't throw the football 40 times. And they put the team on his back and say, hey, we're going to live and die by your arm. And threw the football 23 times. And it's because what variable does best is he gets his defense to play at a high level and they shorten the game. So what Drake May has done to this point in the season puts him, in my opinion, the top five for the. The race for the mvp. And I don't think it's any world beating things. It's just a general expectation of, listen, we're going to make this game very simple for you. We need you to make five plays a game, everything. Other than that. Be ready to get to your checkdowns. Be ready to play winning football. And that's where I think Mike Vrabel has been the key for Drake May to unlock his full potential.
Rob Parker
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Robert Griffin III (RG3)
Colin I'm not surprised by him because I got to watch him in college duel it out with Jaden Daniels and and he outdoed him at Ole Miss when they played against LSU. I believe this was back in 2023. So I got to watch that firsthand and I saw that it factor that you're talking about. And I've mentioned this before, you see guys like Jackson Dart who have moxie, right? But normally when you say a quarterback has moxie, you're saying he doesn't have arm talent, he's not a great athlete, he can't make just some crazy plays off schedule. Well, Jackson Dark can do all of those things. And there's also different types of runners. You know, you have your Tim Tebow style run, they're Bachmire style runners who I called the game for BYU this past weekend with where they're downhill, they're trying to run guys over and then you have guys like Jackson Dart who have a little bit of wiggle to them and are and are actually fast. That can help alleviate erase some of the mistakes of your offensive line. And what I think the Giants are going through right now is they don't have a culture of winning. That is why they they didn't close out this game against the Denver Broncos. They're not used to winning. They're not used to people saying good things about them. Last week I thought they were the only 2 and 4 team in the league that was walking around like they were 6 and 0 and that's because of Jackson Dart and Cam Scabo.
Rob Parker
So with Mahomes they've reinvented their, I should say rebuilt. They've rebuilt their old line three times in six years. I think they've rebuilt their receiving core twice this year. They are constantly course correcting because in this league, you know fans sometimes, and I'm guilty of this to the best GMs with the best players make mistakes. Tom Brady threw a pick six in a Super bowl. Like this is a mistake league and you just have to course correct lose the ego identify it. Wow. I'm watching them yesterday and the Raiders aren't great but when you watch the offense, is it Mahomes, is it the GM's picks, is it Andy Reid? Like what impresses you? What do you look at and go wow. Because we all, we all watch Mahomes. But I mean good God, they put Hollywood Brown wasn't working. He works there. Juju Smith was fine. He's great there. Everything works with their offense.
Robert Griffin III (RG3)
Yeah. And, and you're spot on because what they do so well is they're very multiple. Right. They get Rasheed Rice back. They use, they utilize him. They got Xavier Worthy who's got elite traits. They have Hollywood Brown who has an elite trait. They get the most out of Tyquan Thornton. Why he's a big tall long range receiver who has elite traits. You got juju Smith, Schuster who when he's not getting punched in the face after games is moving the chains on third downs. And of course you can't forget about Travis Kelce. So what I've been most impressed with is Mahomes ability to get it done with anybody. And I think that is eerily reminiscent of what we saw from our colleague and the greatest quarterback of all time, Tom Brady. He had that constant in Rob Gronkowski and then it was Julian Edelman, Wes Welkers, all these different guys that they can throw in there to make plays happen. But it all boils down to Patrick Mahomes being the one that's just distributing the ball out. And I also think they do a really good job of this, Colin, because we see this with young quarterbacks when they come in and they have a great season like Jaden Daniels did or like C.J. stroud. What the, the Chiefs do so well is they bring in more talent regardless. And that talent isn't just some, hey, this guy should be good. They have an elite trait so they can use them in a very specific way. Yeah. And that's why I think some of these young quarterbacks are struggling because they, they get talent around them. But then they don't upgrade every single year because hey, we're good at this spot. Let's go over here. It's like, no, no, always bring in a receiver, always bring in a running back because you never know when that player is going to be able to give you a four to five game run that could help you win a Super Bowl.
Rob Parker
So I, I'm, I'm. There was a piece of video. We'll wrap it up with this. There was a Piece of video in camp with Caleb Williams. He's throwing to a net and he misses badly and he like, he gets really upset. And I've said he's got a ton of horsepower. I think he, he doesn't throw a lot of interceptions. High school, college pro. He never has. But he may just never be 67% completion guy. He may never be that. You tell me all quarterbacks have maybe outside of Mahomes, they all have like limitations, strengths, liabilities. Can Caleb ever be 68% completion guy or is that just. That's just not. He's horsepower guy. He's big play guy. He's not consistent, accurate. I mean, what do you make of it?
Robert Griffin III (RG3)
I think for Caleb Williams. I've heard coaches tell me this about like Brett Favre. You got to live with the bad because the good is so good. And with Caleb Williams, there's going to be some plays where you're like, hey man, what was that? But you have to let him grow into that. If he's going to become a 68% completion, 70% completion guy, you have to allow him to build that confidence and do what he does best. The best thing that I think that Ben Johnson has done thus far this year is their running game. That is what allowed Jared Goff to be this play action pass quarterback who when you asked him to make seven throws on third down a game, he could make them at the highest level possible because you were giving him open routes. They were using amma Ron St. Brown to get open in the middle of the field and move him around kind of like they're doing with DJ Moore. But the Bears didn't have that run game. And for the past two weeks, that run game has been alive and well to the point where Caleb didn't have to play even really good for the Bears to win. And that's what you want from a young, for a young quarterback. Give him that stability that you guys can lean on that running game and he will grow into that. But you know this, Colin. The world is not very patient right now. It's probably the most impatient it's ever been. But if you want to see Caleb continue to grow, you can't expect him to be Joe Montana in year two.
Rob Parker
I want to wrap with something on Dak. I said this very early in Dak's career. You could see at the podium, you could hear it, you could see it. Jerry Jones is a kind of needy and a lot of vanity and a lot of maintenance. Dak always said the right thing at the podium. Dak was always high iq, eq. In fact, I like this intangibles more than his tangibles. I just like the guy. And then I'm watching this year, and I think it's something. So George Pickens came in. He was, you know, he's a little immature, wildly talented, and yet he goes to Dak. No drama. I mean, he's just no drama. And I think, I think Dak gets credit for this. I don't think that's the case everywhere. I mean, in Pittsburgh, Mike Tomlin, who is a pretty. He's a willing supporter of players who can be somewhat dramatic. Right. He's had a few, and Mike's like, I'm moving on. And then he goes to Dallas and not a peep. He is gone from highlight guy to high production guy. I think Dak gets credit here. I think, I mean, your take on that. When the quarterback is mature, does it change the locker room?
Robert Griffin III (RG3)
Oh, 100%. And, you know, everyone wants to talk about the Cowboys and Dak Prescott. I think he's playing like an MVP as well. I know they're three and three, and it's hard to say, but I think the best thing that has ever happened to George Pickens was CD Lamb going down. Why? Because he was able to show them I can be a number one wide receiver. We knew that in Pittsburgh, but as you said, there was some issues there. So I also have to give credit to George Pickens for coming into a new team in a new situation and understanding that, hey, this thing can go one of two ways. I can continue to do some of the things that I did in Pittsburgh that really got me out of there, or I can buy into what's going on here, despite how our record is looking right now, and I can be a great teammate to the rest of these guys. Dak does always answer the question the right way, but he also shows honesty in some of his answers. He didn't know that Micah Parsons was going to get traded, but what's he supposed to do about that? He has to go out there and continue to play. So I, I. You got to tip your cat to Dak Prescott for what he's been able to do. I think you're spot on there, Colin. But CD Lamb going down allowed George Pickens to establish himself within the offense and get that confidence and camaraderie with Dak. Now he's got two number one wide receivers. Yeah, you just saw what they did to my Washington commanders.
Rob Parker
Yeah, they did. That was. That was a butt kicking. Yeah. Cross our fingers on Jaden's health. Robert, I love having you on college and pro stuff. You're dialed in, my man. Thank you so much.
Robert Griffin III (RG3)
Appreciate you Colin. Anytime. God bless.
Rob Parker
Does his homework, knows his college football. I've just come to terms with USC is, you know, you put us in the octagon with some clouds and rain. We're not coming out of it with a W. I've just, you know, it is what it is. At home we can beat anybody except Ohio State. But on the road it just doesn't feel like it's. I don't know. I watched that game and I'm like this is exactly what I thought it would be. In fact, it was worse. 300 yards rushing. I figured it would. It was worse and you know, it's There is something to be said about toughness, travels and USC is smart. I think Lincoln's really, really bright. I think his play design is excellent. There's no question they're fun to watch, but I feel like I'm seeing the same movie over and over. Jmax got his Herdline news after the break live in Chicago. Be sure to catch live editions of the Herd weekdays at noon Eastern, 9am Pacific. Introducing your new Dell PC. Powered by the Intel Core Ultra processor, it helps you handle a lot even when your holiday to do lists gets to be a lot because it's built with all day battery plus powerful AI features that help you do it all with ease from editing images to drafting emails to summarizing large documents to multitasking so you can organize your holiday shopping and make custom holiday decor and search for great holiday deals and respond to holiday requests and customer questions and customers requesting custom things. And plan the perfect holiday dinner for vegans, vegetarians, pescatarians and Uncle Mike's carnivore diet. Luckily you can get a PC that helps you do it all faster so you can get it all done. That's the power of Dell PC with Intel inside, backed by Dell's price match guarantee. Get yours today@dell.com holiday terms and conditions apply. See dell.com for details. A wingman never leaves your side. They've got your six. Come what may. Folds of Honor proudly provides the same unwavering support for families of American heroes. A Folds of Honor Wingman donates $13 a month which becomes life changing scholarships for the spouses, sons and daughters of fallen or disabled U.S. service members and first responders join their ranks today as a wingman. More than 3,000 scholarships have been made possible by wingman donors preserving legacies and opening doors for the next generation. Your $13 monthly gift. Profoundly symbolic. Thirteen represents the number of times a flag is folded before given to grieving families of American heroes, each fold a symbol of sacrifice, of honor, of remembrance. Let's lock arms around these families and turn that symbol into something more education, opportunity and hope. Become a wingman today@foldsofhonor.org Weighted vests are everywhere right now. And it's not just a fad. The science is clear. Carrying extra weight boosts calorie burn, ramps up natural human growth hormone testosterone in the body and builds real world strength. Not all vests, though are built the same and low quality gear is getting guys hurt. That's why I'm all for Wolf Tacticals True Fit Weighted vest. Go to wolftactical USA.com take your training and physique to the next level. The code is HERD15 for 15% off your order. That's H E R D15 at checkout only at wolftacticalusa.com make your game day legendary with MGM Rewards. From unforgettable tailgate and viewing parties to world class dining, thrilling nightlife and entertainment that keeps energy going long after the final whistle, this is where fans come to celebrate. Show off your team spirit, cheer with friends and earn rewards on every experience you love. Because every play is bigger and every moment feels unforgettable in Las Vegas. So what are you waiting for? Make your game day legendary with MGM Rewards. Visit mgmrewards.com for details. Tomorrow we'll have the Herd hierarchy. Gotta watch the Lions, Tampa tonight. Have to watch the Seahawks and Houston tonight. Two good actual Monday night games. Rather have one. You can talk me into none, but I'll take two. Plus, we have a game seven tonight. Game one of the World Series would be Friday. Amazon game Thursday. Tomorrow's gonna be a good show. J Mac with the news. No, no, no, no.
Robert Griffin III (RG3)
Turn on the news.
Rob Parker
This is the Herdline news.
Colin Cowherd
And don't forget, Tuesday night the NBA starts. I mean, it's just a great week, you know. Plan to sit around on your sofa and watch sports all week. Start with the Rams, Colin. They're going to be in the Herd hierarchy tomorrow. Absolute dismantling of Jacksonville early on Sunday morning. Out here in LA, 35 to 7. I got an amazing stat I'll give you in a moment. But the story here was Matt Stafford, five TD passes, three to Devonte Adams. Here's Devonte talking about Stafford's mental approach to taking apart Jacksonville.
Robert Griffin III (RG3)
Absolutely. No. That's. That's the type Of. I mean, he's a. He's a killer. That's what.
Rob Parker
That's what killers do.
Robert Griffin III (RG3)
They go out and kill. So it's never easy when you're operating in elements like that. But, you know, we started off a little slow, he and I, and then, you know, but the rest of the office was rolling, so we were able to kind of keep the ball moving and then found our opportunities in there and took advantage.
Rob Parker
That was. It's funny, the Jags had more yards and more yards of play and got beat 35, 7.
Robert Griffin III (RG3)
Wow.
Rob Parker
And that. They had a touchdown called back. They had more penalties. They got sacked a bunch of. That was a great football operation against a wobbly football operation. That's what it was.
Colin Cowherd
You feel bad for the London fans. Last week they had to endure. Jets, Broncos, and then this week, 35. 7. Colin, how's this stat for the Rams? So every. A lot of people got this game wrong, including myself. The Rams used three tight ends on 24 plays. Okay. Completely different than they've ever done in the last four years. They've used three tight ends six times total. Sean McVeigh basically said, we're total. Putting in a whole new game plan. Jacksonville was discombobulated, not ready for it. This was a game where, hey, man, it's McVeigh against a rookie head coach. And I miss that. McVeigh is a damn genius. Great, great start.
Rob Parker
Considering they flew in the day before, it was a remarkably efficient, crisp, clean performance. I mean, they just didn't waste any time. It looked like they'd been there for a week. I mean, it was to go overseas. Matt Hasselbeck said this earlier, you have no idea what you're getting. You really. That's why I mostly stay away from international games. Like, you just don't know what you're getting. That was impressive. Yeah.
Colin Cowherd
So basically, McVeigh's like, oh, we don't have puka. Let's just go. Three tight ends. And they were not ready for it. Up and down the field with ease. All right, next up, Colin. Not a great story here. And that's Jaden Daniels.
Rob Parker
Wow.
Colin Cowherd
Man, listen, he was already hurt. Missed games earlier this season. We're still waiting on an MRI result today. It's a hamstring now without him there. Borderline unwatchable. And the Chiefs get an automatic win. We might as well not play that game next week. Dan Quinn says he's nervous. The expectation is he'll miss the game against the Chiefs. Now it is early. Maybe he gets, you know, Mr. Miyagi does a number on the hammy and he's able to play. But without him, Marcus Mariota on his first possession.
Rob Parker
Oh, brutal.
Colin Cowherd
Threw a 68 yard pick six.
Rob Parker
Oh, it was brutal. It was the worst throw of the day.
Robert Griffin III (RG3)
No.
Rob Parker
2. I had a couple. It was. It was. It was a brutal pick. But you know what? Dallas, to their credit, played with a ton of juice. Dallas was all dialed in. First series, they were ready to roll.
Colin Cowherd
We can agree now Dallas is right now a better football team than Washington. Yeah, it's not even close.
Rob Parker
Now.
Colin Cowherd
Washington was down their top three receivers, which is a lot to overcome. But, you know, Washington has not had that magic that they had last year. Remember, it was like fourth down, Jaden Daniels, go make some magic happen. And it would happen all the time. They're not even close to that. And that defense is aging. Did you see how badly Lattimore got cooked? Yeah, but I mean, he was getting roasted by Pickens.
Rob Parker
He was frustrated.
Colin Cowherd
I don't want to say they're missing the playoffs. Colin, have you looked at Washington's upcoming schedule? Okay. They're losing to the Chiefs this week.
Rob Parker
Even if Jaden Daniels plays. No, no, they're. They're. They're cooked. They're probably going to be three and seven. They're in big trouble.
Colin Cowherd
I don't know how you rebound from coming out of the buy.
Rob Parker
Two things are always true in the NFL. I'm good at predicting one, not good at the other. One of them is somebody's going to double their win total. I said New England. I've been doing that for years. But the other thing is, one of the really great teams from the previous year goes into the tank. We both thought it would be Detroit.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah.
Rob Parker
And it's Washington, but it could still be Detroit.
Colin Cowherd
But for sure, Washington. Now, that opens up a playoff spot in the afc. I'm just. I don't want to spitball here, but are the Cowboys. Could they sneak in a wild card?
Rob Parker
Well, it's an offensive lead. Could Dallas score their way to a wild card? Certainly. Now, what makes it tougher is the Giants are a real team. So, you know, Dallas Dak has feasted on Washington and the Giants for a decade. Giants match up pretty well with Dallas because Dallas is O lines and a rebuild in the Giants fronts really good.
Colin Cowherd
Well, sneakily, Dallas O line's gonna get healthier. And the kid Overshown who was awesome last year, remember him, the defender, he's now. His window to return, I think, opens up. He's all excited Dallas is a, is gonna, they're not gonna be an easy out with Dax slinging it and those two receivers in the postseason. I, I, I don't know. I'm shocked by that. All right, let's wrap up. Colin, Baseball, obviously, game seven tonight. Blue Jays with the win last night, and they are hosting game seven tonight on Fox. Big night for Seattle sports fans. Better have two TVs juice up the remotes. Mariners in Toronto and Seahawks hosting the Texans. Colin, do you have a, you want to bet on this at all, or what are we doing here?
Rob Parker
I don't have great vibes. I listen. Seattle won the first two. It'll come down to pitching. Seattle's throwing a guy they have great trust in. I think these are pretty even teams. I think Seattle's the cooler story, but Seattle, Dodgers, Mariners, I think we'd have the ultimate underdog. I mean, did anybody pick, I mean, people have liked certain Mariner players for a few years, but I think it would be a really, it would be kind of Bulls against the Jazz, kind of a final. Like, you're, you're like, oh, the dominant dynasty against that pesky team. I think, I think Mariners, Dodgers is a really fun World Series.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah. Vlad Guerrero, who is torching Seattle pitching, he talked about what the World Series birth would mean to the squad.
Rob Parker
For the second time in franchise history, the Blue Jays are going to play game seven. Are you ready?
Robert Griffin III (RG3)
Hey, hey, if you watch me, if you're ready, I born ready.
Rob Parker
I born ready. Yeah, I mean, it's, you've got some St. Kyle, Raleigh, Vlad Guerrero. There's, there's some marquee players in this series. Look at him. Look at him. Hitting.440 against Mariner.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah.
Robert Griffin III (RG3)
In the poll.
Rob Parker
And lots of postseason numbers, dad.
Colin Cowherd
Obviously a legend. ALCS Game 7 tonight, 7:00pm Eastern on Fox and FS1. I'll, I'll root for whoever you're rooting for.
Rob Parker
Listen, I'm rooting for the Mariners. I'll go, Mary. Strangely, road teams do well. The road team, Listen to this. Has gone 7 and 1 in the last eight game sevens, and that tells you how valuable pitching is. First of all, there's a lot of pressure. Baseball is a sport where you get long time to sit and think like golf. You have slumps in baseball and golf, and so the home team comes in with a ton of pressure. It'll come down to what starting pitcher can give me. Six and two thirds. Great stuff. And that's the winner tonight. J. Mac with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by the herd lie news. I thought you know every weekend we have a game of the day we did not think the Giants Denver for the first three hours of it was going to be the game of the day. But I would say in a losing cause I was kind of really blown away by Jackson Dart. His poise, his command, his confidence. He has the left impressive roster than Denver. Okay. The Giants are still. They got holes. Denver's roster doesn't have any holes. O lines good. D line's good. Secondary star corner. Denver's roster's got no holes. Giants still have a few and you cross your fingers on their left tackle being healthy week to week. But here was Matt Hasselbeck on what he sees with a rookie first rounder Jackson Dart.
Matt Hasselbeck
Just because he threw that interception that you know ultimately was one of the plays that led to their loss. Like in the long run this is going to be great for his career. It's going to be great for it. Like every quarterback you throw an interception, you never ever forget it. That was the thing I loved about Jackson. Like it was almost like he was brought to tears over it. Even day ball like this team is going to rally around this quarterback. They, I mean they already have.
Rob Parker
Yeah, there's a. If you, if you think about that quarterback draft class Penix can play. He wasn't great last night. Panicks can play. Bonix is a franchise quarterback. Penix is Drake, May is Jaden. Daniel's bad year is Caleb's certainly not a turnover machine. I mean Peyton, I mean Caleb's not overwhelmed by the moment. He's on a four game winning streak. He's just, he got to refine it. But whether or not J.J. mcCarthy can play, we got four hits, four franchise quarterbacks. So when I look at Jackson Dart I think Cam Ward will be fine eventually. He has no help here. I think the winner yesterday is also despite the losses, Brian Dable. You can't fire Brian Dable. You can't. I mean Jackson Dart, he is linked. Last thing you want to do with Jackson Dart, roll the die. Brian Dull got Daniel Jones into the playoffs. And if we put the Giant schedule up they're going to be in the discussion at least two Thanksgiving you start looking at the Giant schedule right now. So let's look at it, okay? At Philly's a rough one. Niners at home, Bears, Green Bay at Detroit's a rough one.
Colin Cowherd
I mean look Colin, this schedule is devastating.
Rob Parker
Come on.
Colin Cowherd
Packers, Lions, patriots. Those are three like the top 10 teams in the league Right there. How on earth.
Rob Parker
I see, I see a seven win team.
Robert Griffin III (RG3)
Oh, no way.
Colin Cowherd
Give me the. Under. Their, their win total was five and a half to start the season.
Rob Parker
I mean they end the year off a buy with Washington, Minnesota.
Colin Cowherd
Those are going to be teams fighting for playoff spots. Not the Raiders. That's a, that's a win. But I'll be shocked if they win seven games.
Rob Parker
Oh, we're, we're, we're.
Colin Cowherd
The next five wins. They're not beating the Eagles, they're not beating the night.
Rob Parker
You don't think they can at home beat in lousy weather. The Niners, you know, Mac Jones, if it's overcast, you got a shot.
Colin Cowherd
Or that's going to be Brock Purdy, my friend. And they're going to be at full strength by then. So yeah, I'll give you the Raiders. I'll give you. They're not going to Chicago to beat your Bears, are they?
Rob Parker
Listen to shot. Even Sean Payton was impressed with Jackson Dart after the game.
Sean Payton
It was a great win. Good team effort to fight back. Tip your hats in New York. Those guys have found a new juice about them and you could see that on tape. You know, they found a little spark with that quarterback. I was talking to John Mayer not too long ago and I said we were hoping that that change would have happened long, long after our game.
Colin Cowherd
Was that pro dart or anti Russell Wilson?
Rob Parker
Oh my God. No, I think, I think if you're a Giants fan, I think you found your guy. It's exciting.
Colin Cowherd
He is exciting. He's got the swag, by the way.
Rob Parker
He's got, he's a good, he's a great looking kid. People are already making his mom a social media star. He's a great looking kid. He played in a great college conference. He played with Lane Kiffin for three years. So you know, he's dealt. Lane coached in the NFL, so we got great college coaching. Brian Dabel's an above average offensive guy. Like neighbors isn't even playing right now. He needs another free agent class because they're not paying him anything. Jackson Dart needs another four draft picks to help that O line. Maybe get another, you know, get some help at tight end.
Colin Cowherd
Whoa, whoa, whoa. Their tight ends are solid. Well, here's my thing, so. So you're telling me you're keeping the GM and Dable?
Rob Parker
I don't, I don't want to blow it up a couple plucky performance. You want to be the Jets? You want to be the Jets? You want to be Carolina? You want to be just might get.
Colin Cowherd
The number one pick, buddy. Maybe you want to be the it.
Rob Parker
Doesn'T matter who they pick. They'll screw it up.
Colin Cowherd
Oh, damn you. I probably right, though.
Rob Parker
I mean, the last thing you want is chaos. Yeah, I. I don't know. I look at the Giants, I don't think they're that far away. They need another draft class. They got to hit on three picks. That's it. The next time you fly, upgrade your comfort to Emirates Premium Economy. Sink into soft leather seats with raised leg rests and adjustable headrest. Elevate your dinner plans with delicious regional dining, all served with complimentary premium drinks. Enjoy endless entertainment with up to 6,500 channels, including live sports. There's no other premium economy like it. Fly Emirates fly better. A wingman flies close with unwavering dedication. At Folds of Honor, a wingman stands with families of Americans fallen or disabled, heroes. The burial flag given to their grieving family is folded 13 times. As a wingman, your $13 monthly donation provides scholarships to their spouses and children. 13 folds. $13. Become a wingman. Join today at folds of honor.org you know that feeling when you come home late from work and the puppy dog eyes just pierce right through your soul? Yeah, we've all been there, right? Pet parent guilt is real. And you know what? It's completely normal. That's exactly why Hill's Pet Nutrition exists. They understand that being a pet parent means being human. Hill Science led nutrition helps you give more love than humanly possible. Whether it's those long work days or trying to balance attention between, you know, multiple pets. Hill's Pet Nutrition gets it because, hey, you're only human. There's Hills Science does more. If you're ready to let go of the guilt, find the right food@hillspet.com iheart hills peter path.com iheart Weighted vests are everywhere right now. And it's not just a fad. The science is clear. Carrying extra weight boosts calorie burn, ramps up natural human growth hormone and testosterone in the body, and builds real world strength. Not all vests, though, are built the same. And low quality gear is getting guys hurt. That's why I'm all for Wolf Tacticals True fit weighted vest. Go to wolftacticalusa. Com Take your training and physique to the next level. The code is HERD15 for 15% off your order. That's H E R D15 at checkout, only at wolftacticalusa. Com.
Colin Cowherd
This is an iHeart podcast.
Date: October 20, 2025
Main Guest: Robert Griffin III (RG3), former NFL QB and Fox Sports analyst
Main Theme: A lively, in-depth analysis of both college and NFL football—focusing on team cultures, quarterback performance, and why some franchises continually succeed or fail.
In this football-packed hour, Colin Cowherd and co-host Rob Parker welcome Robert Griffin III (RG3) for a coast-to-coast breakdown of football’s biggest college and NFL storylines. Griffin draws on his unique experiences to weigh in on team culture, quarterback ascension, coaching, and the ever-evolving nature of both the college and pro games. The hour is rich with colorful insights, candid evaluations, and several memorable, quotable moments.
[03:47]
"There's two things that travel in big time college football late in the season: a running game and your defense. They have both of those things." — RG3 [03:47]
"Some of the best head coaches I've ever played for set the culture, gave the motivational speeches, but it was the strength coach, it was the defensive coordinator..." — RG3 [04:50]
[06:44]
"I believe Indiana is the best team in the country... I saw an Indiana team that went out there and absolutely dominated them from the start..." — RG3 [06:44]
"He's my front runner for the Heisman Trophy... Someone has to steer the ship. That's why I think Julian Saying is the Heisman front runner right now." — RG3 [07:20]
[08:36]
"Variable sits him down and says, this is all I need you to do... What Drake May has done to this point in the season puts him, in my opinion, the top five for the MVP." — RG3 [08:36]
[15:34]
"You see guys like Jackson Dart who have moxie... Well, Jackson Dart can do all of those things... That can help alleviate, erase some of the mistakes of your offensive line." — RG3 [15:34]
[16:51]
"What I've been most impressed with is Mahomes' ability to get it done with anybody..." "They bring in more talent regardless... always bring in a receiver, always bring in a running back because you never know..." — RG3 [17:46]
[19:21]
"You got to live with the bad because the good is so good... The best thing that Ben Johnson has done is their running game..." "If you want to see Caleb continue to grow, you can't expect him to be Joe Montana in year two." — RG3 [20:10]
[21:30]
"When the quarterback is mature, does it change the locker room?" — Colin [21:30]
"Dak does always answer the question the right way, but he also shows honesty in some of his answers..." "You got to tip your cap to Dak Prescott for what he's been able to do." — RG3 [22:47]
[29:30]
"He's a killer. That's what killers do..." — Devonte Adams on Stafford [29:30]
[31:13]
"We can agree now Dallas is right now a better football team than Washington. Yeah, it's not even close." — Colin [32:01]
[35:05]
On Notre Dame's Playoff Credentials:
"Two things that travel in big time college football late in the season: a running game and your defense. They have both of those things."
— RG3 [03:47]
On Team Culture Beyond the Head Coach:
"It was the strength coach, it was the defensive coordinator. Those are the guys that really set the tone day in and day out."
— RG3 [04:50]
On Dak’s Locker Room Effect:
"When the quarterback is mature, does it change the locker room? Oh, 100%."
— RG3 [22:47]
On Jackson Dart's 'It Factor':
"Jackson Dart can do all of those things... That can help alleviate, erase some of the mistakes of your offensive line."
— RG3 [15:34]
On Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs:
"Mahomes' ability to get it done with anybody... always bring in a receiver, always bring in a running back... you never know when that player is going to be able to give you a four to five game run that could help you win a Super Bowl."
— RG3 [17:46]
On Caleb Williams' Growth:
"If you want to see Caleb continue to grow, you can't expect him to be Joe Montana in year two."
— RG3 [20:10]
The hour is fast-paced, conversational, and insightful with a dose of banter between hosts and guest. RG3 brings both analytical sharpness and relatable anecdotes. Cowherd’s and Parker’s direct, sometimes sardonic humor sets a lively backdrop.
Whether you’re a college football die-hard, an NFL junkie, or just love solid football talk, this episode distills the highs, lows, and inside stories of the season with sharp analysis and entertaining anecdotes.