THE HERD - Hour 3 - Robert Mays from The Athletic, Tomorrow's Headlines Today

Summary

The Herd with Colin Cowherd — Hour 3, September 19, 2025

Guests: Robert Mays (The Athletic), J. Max Dubois (JMAC)
Segments Featured: Robert Mays interview, NFL headlines, Tomorrow’s Headlines Today with JMAC

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Episode Overview

In this episode, Colin welcomes NFL writer and podcaster Robert Mays (The Athletic) to discuss quarterback fits, franchise team-building, the Green Bay Packers' sustained excellence, the Philadelphia Eagles' offensive philosophies, Jim Harbaugh's impact on the Chargers, and the evolution of quarterbacks Josh Allen and Dak Prescott. Later, J. Max Dubois joins with “Tomorrow’s Headlines Today”, predicting key NFL Week 3 matchups. The hour is packed with high-level football analysis, sharp opinions, and memorable analogies—ideal for NFL fans seeking in-depth breakdowns of current league narratives.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Quarterback Fits: Caleb Williams & Bears, JJ McCarthy & Vikings

[Starts ~02:54]

Bears & Caleb Williams

• Colin discusses Caleb Williams’ fit with the Bears’ new coach, Ben Johnson, describing Johnson as a “timing and structure” play caller and questioning if Caleb’s improvisational style is a true fit.
• Robert Mays offers optimism on Caleb after the previous Sunday, emphasizing his underrated proficiency in intermediate throws and comparing his arm talent to Jared Goff.
  • Quote: “Caleb has more similarities as a passer to Jared Goff than most people would think. They have very whip-like arms. They're really good at attacking the intermediate area of the field.” (Robert Mays, 04:22)
• Mays notes structural Bears’ problems: run-game struggles and offensive line health, not just rookie QB woes.

Vikings & JJ McCarthy

• Colin is openly skeptical of McCarthy's transition, citing his lack of adversity at Michigan and struggles when not surrounded by strong support.
• Robert Mays: Minnesota’s “plug-and-play” vision for McCarthy hasn't materialized due to O-line injuries. He urges patience, noting that true judgment awaits when infrastructure improves.
  • Quote: “If we get to the back half of the season, the offensive line is healthy, the run game is good, and those four or five throws you're asking him to make are still going awry, then I think we can really get into causes for concern.” (Robert Mays, 06:15)

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2. Green Bay Packers: NFL’s Best-Built Team?

[Starts ~07:12]

• Colin makes the case that Green Bay, thanks to no meddling billionaire owner and methodical front office, has the NFL’s best roster for the next three years.
  • Quote: “I look at Green Bay right now, it's almost a flawless team... I don't think anybody right now for the next three years is built like Green Bay.” (Colin Cowherd, 08:16)
• Robert Mays agrees, praising the patience and “awareness” of the Packers—flexibility to seize bold moves like a Micah Parsons trade, smart coaching, and steady player development.
  • Quote: “There is a roster strength overall, they've been able to build so much depth because of how patient they build the roster. But then you look at the schematics of it on both sides of the ball. This is an extremely well-coached, creative team.” (Robert Mays, 08:41)
• Highlights DC Jeff Hafley’s adaptability and rapid improvement of young talent.

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3. Philadelphia Eagles: Can Their 2025 Offense Last?

[Starts ~10:11]

• Al Michaels’ dig at Philly sparks a discussion: the Eagles’ refusal to throw deep post-bye last year is rare in a “pass-first league”.
• Robert Mays says the approach is unsustainable, especially since their run game isn’t compensating for it.
  • Quote: “If you're going to be a team that doesn't want to throw the ball down the field, you better be the most explosive, dynamic running team in the league. And through the first couple weeks, they just really haven't been that.” (Robert Mays, 11:28)

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4. Jim Harbaugh & The LA Chargers: Cultural Shift & Identity

[Starts ~16:35]

• Colin claims that, given his college/pro record, if the Football HOF were like basketball’s, “I could argue Jim Harbaugh is the best coach ever.”
  • Quote: “He takes five car wrecks …he leaves, they're all a hazmat spill instantly. So it's not that you lose a good coach... Jim leaves. It’s man overboard. I find him to be a remarkable guy.” (Colin Cowherd, 16:35)
• Robert Mays traveled to evaluate Harbaugh’s impact in the locker room; found players describe a new, strong identity (“when you look at the logo, what do you see?” — Derwin James).
• Tells a key anecdote of Harbaugh making every player and employee share “why are you here?” at OTAs to foster team connection.
  • Harbaugh’s looseness has freed QB Justin Herbert.
  • Quote: “I've always joked about it. I WISH Justin was 10% dumber. And I honestly think he has played the last year and a half like he's 10% dumber, and it's been to his benefit. And I think Jim's a big reason for that.” (Robert Mays, 19:05)

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5. Josh Allen’s Historic Evolution

[Starts ~19:41]

• Colin: “Josh Allen has had about a year... The Bills have not lost the turnover battle in 25 games and they have a V12 for an engine. I find what we're watching... it's not validated through stat precision... but in terms of, we're watching history.”
• Robert Mays lauds Allen not just for efficiency, but for pre-snap decision making, mental and physical prowess, and sack avoidance.
  • Quote: “Where he's really made the most progress to me, outside of the accuracy...is that he has become pre snap one of the best quarterbacks in the league. I think it’s him and Mahomes.” (Robert Mays, 22:08)
• The “mental horsepower with the physical horsepower” is why Allen looks unstoppable now.

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6. Dallas Cowboys, Dak Prescott, & the “Foo Fighters” Analogy

[Starts ~23:17]

• Colin is stunned by Dak’s play post-second surgery and puts him in Hall of Fame contention:
  • Quote: “History is going to be very kind to Dak Prescott…He's going to get Hall of Fame votes. Is he not?” (Colin Cowherd, 25:30)
• Robert Mays: “Dak is like Foo Fighters, right? This band you never thought was the best, but they've been doing it for so long at a pretty good clip. And Dave Grohl did it with Nirvana... Dak has been that... Consistency and legitimacy you can't deny.” (Robert Mays, 25:30)
• Discussion of how Dak delivered through adversity, coaching changes, and tumultuous eras for Dallas.

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Tomorrow's Headlines Today: J. Max Dubois' Week 3 NFL Predictions

[Begins ~31:23]

1. Rams at Eagles

   • Headline: “Hookah and Rally: Philly Can't Go Shot for Shot with LA”
   • JMAC expects the Rams’ explosiveness to top a “stale” Eagles offense.

2. Colts at Titans

   • Headline: “Smile for the Camera: Ward Picture Perfect in First Win”
   • Cam Ward, Titans’ rookie, gets first victory—JMAC cites trends for 0-2 underdogs and Indy’s pass rush woes (33:31).

3. Falcons at Panthers

   • Headline: “Working 9 to 5: Falcons Stand on Business Hours”
   • “This is a Bijan Robinson special.” Falcons’ run game dominates, Panthers still haven’t led in 2025 (35:40).

4. Saints at Seahawks

   • Headline: “Rattler Kept Coiled by Circling Hawks”
   • Seattle’s defense expected to pummel rookie QB Spencer Rattler; calls for a low-risk, ball-control win for Seahawks (37:45).

5. Ravens vs. Lions (Monday Night)

   • Headline: “Turn Your Head and Goff: Lions Fail Physical Test”
   • Detroit’s letdown outdoors against Baltimore, pressure gets to Goff, Ravens dominate time of possession (38:05).

Colin & JMAC agree on several picks; rare for the show!

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Caleb Williams’ fit:
  “Even if you're Ben Johnson, Kyle Shanahan, Sean McVay, you're never going to be able to scheme things properly all the time. And that's why having a quarterback who can do something out of structure is important, because he makes you right when you're not right.”
  (Robert Mays, 04:22)

• On Packers ownership:
  “The lack of an owner actually allows patience that nobody else can have in the league.”
  (Colin Cowherd, 07:12)

• On Jim Harbaugh’s effect:
  “How do I build connective tissue in this building? How do I make people feel invested?... The best example of this to me is what Justin Herbert has played like...”
  (Robert Mays, 18:30)

• On Josh Allen:
  “He's so smart that when you combine it with his athleticism and the offensive line talent…he has the answers to the test before it even starts.”
  (Robert Mays, 22:25)

• Foo Fighters analogy for Dak Prescott:
  “You're never gonna say Dak Prescott is the best quarterback in the world, the same way you're never going to say that Dave Grohl is the best rock star…but there is a consistency and a legitimacy for so long that you really can't deny it.”
  (Robert Mays, 25:30)

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Important Timestamps

• [02:54] — Colin introduces Robert Mays, kicks off Bears/Caleb discussion
• [04:17] — Mays breaks down Caleb Williams’ strengths/weaknesses
• [06:10] — JJ McCarthy/Vikings evaluation
• [07:12] — Packers’ team-building and ownership philosophy
• [10:11] — Eagles offense breakdown
• [16:35] — Jim Harbaugh/Chargers cultural impact
• [19:41] — Colin & Mays on Josh Allen’s historic play
• [23:17] — Cowboys-Bears, Dak’s resurgence; Dak/HOF talk
• [25:30] — Foo Fighters analogy for Dak Prescott
• [31:23] — “Tomorrow’s Headlines Today” segment begins (Week 3 picks)
• [38:05] — Ravens/Lions Monday Night preview

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Style & Tone

Colin blends pointed opinion with humor and storytelling; Mays brings deep football analysis and locker-room anecdotes. The exchange is lively, candid, and packed with both statistics and big-picture perspective. Listeners get actionable insights and colorful analogies that make complex football dynamics approachable.

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Summary prepared for: Fans seeking a full breakdown of The Herd’s Hour 3 (09/19/2025), featuring Robert Mays and “Tomorrow’s Headlines Today” predictions with J. Max Dubois.

Transcript

[Colin Cowherd]

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[Colin Cowherd]

All right. As a podcast, the Athletic football show. NFL writer at the Athletic as well, but Robert Mays, when I first spotted him, it was his food spreadsheet as I was coming in and out of Chicago. And he's humble and he doesn't want to talk about it. But if. If you ever want to find out where to eat Chicago, it is like a depth chart for food. It is an absolute pleasure to meet you. We both now live in Chicago, a great North American city, a great global city. And the Bears and the Cubs dominate talk radio. And here's my thing. I made this argument that people can get divorced. Doesn't mean they're bad people. They can get remarried. Fit tempo of personality matters. I'm going to argue that Ben is Shanahan. He's on that spreadsheet. He's a timing instructor coach. I don't know if Caleb is a timing and structure quarterback. So on the first drives, it's magic. The further you get away from the spreadsheet, it doesn't look right. It is a. It is a quarterback built to move freelance and ad lib. Robert, what if. What if this weekend against an average cowboy defense, we get a great first drive and more of the dreck? Where do we go with this?

[Robert Mays]

I was more encouraged by what he did on Sunday.

[Colin Cowherd]

Do we hear you guys to make sure that. Does the mic work? Does it work? Okay, Go ahead.

[Robert Mays]

Go ahead. I think I was more encouraged by what I saw on Sunday than you were after the first draft. I think there were a lot of structural issues with the offense that were more of a problem than Caleb was. Even beyond the first game, the run game, some of the offensive line concerns. I think stylistically I am not as worried about it as you are because I actually think that Caleb has more similarities as a passer than to Jared Goff than most people would think. They have very whip like arms. They're really good at attacking the intermediate area of the field. You don't want them pushing the ball down the field, outside the numbers in a way that Jalen hurts or Jaden Daniels would. But when you think about some of those outbreaking routes, outs, routes over the middle of the field, Caleb does throw those really well. And the creation part is important, but the creation is a breaking case from emergency thing. Even if you're Ben Johnson, Kyle Shanahan, Sean McVay, you're never going to be able to scheme things properly all the time. And that's why having a quarterback who can do something out of structure is important, because he makes you right when you're not right. So I do think that there's a balance to be found between asking a guy to play in structure and then allowing him to play outside of structure when some of those structural things start breaking down.

[Colin Cowherd]

And then there's the other young quarterback that won't play this weekend, J.J. mcCarthy. I've said I don't feel Caleb is overwhelmed. It's more of a fit what JJ McCarthy. And I was not a big fan coming out of college. I said I don't, I don't see it. He's never played from behind. Harbaugh dominated that program. It was defense run game. I thought he looked overwhelmed. And they did want to re sign Darnold. There was rumors they had Daniel Jones. There was rumors about Aaron. Kevin o' Connell is about as sharp as they get. And seven of those eight quarters were, I mean, jarring. Do you think there's in the building privately a little concerned on their first round quarterback?

[Robert Mays]

I love what you said about JJ not having to play from behind at Michigan. They put him in really advantageous situations.

[Colin Cowherd]

Yes.

[Robert Mays]

And that was the whole plan in Minnesota, is that we can plug this guy in and be okay because we've built so much strength around him. That hasn't come to fruition in the first couple of weeks because they've had injuries. Right. The offensive line, the left tackle being hurt for the first two games. You've really seen that great left tackle, very good left tackle. And now you're going to truly below average left tackle. And so this idea that JJ is set up to succeed because the infrastructure is so solid, the infrastructure hasn't been solid. And so I don't think the first couple weeks have done anything to assuage concerns you would have about him coming in. But I also think that the Vikings haven't been able to make good on their end of the bargain so far. I want to wait to see when the offensive line's healthier, when the run game can be a little bit better and you take stuff off of his plate in the way that you were planning to. What does J.J. mcCarthy look like then? If we get to the back half of the season, the Offensive line is healthy, the run game is good, and those four or five throws you're asking him to make are still going awry, then I think we can really get into causes for concern.

[Colin Cowherd]

So when you live in Chicago, you are reminded, as I take the train, that Green Bay is right up the road. And I will make the argument that for the last 30 years, it's the best run organization. Now, I always looked at lack of ownership as a liability for years and years that the Rams have somebody they can go call Stan Kroenke and say, I know you're on the Gulf stream, on the tarmac, we need Matt Stafford. And the owner says, go for it. But as billionaires now, as millionaires, used to own the league, that firing a coaching staff, $40 million checks was a non starter. It's not anymore. And so billionaires have become oligarchs, have become crazier, whether it's the tech guys, whether it's the boys club in the NFL. And so the lack of an owner actually allows patience that nobody else can have in the league. And I look at Green Bay's roster, Robert, tight end, running back, defensive line, they moved off Kenny Clark, good player, they're fine. I look at Green Bay right now, it's almost a flawless team. It reminds me of Kansas City with Tyreek. Play from behind, play with a lead, play aggressively, paying the right people. I've said this. I don't think, I don't think anybody right now for the next three years is built like Green Bay. Who gets credit.

[Robert Mays]

It's a combination of the coaching staff and the front office. I think what you said about the ownership is perfect because you want a blend of methodical, patient, responsible decision making. But when that moment is there for you to jump on something, you still want to be able to do that. And that's why the Michael Parsons trade to me would be so encouraging if I were a Packers fan. It's like when they know that there's something there to be had, they're going after it. And so there is a roster strength. Overall, they've been able to build so much depth because of how patient they build the roster. But then you look at the schematics of it on both sides of the ball. This is an extremely well coached, creative team.

[Colin Cowherd]

Jeff Halfley has been a find.

[Robert Mays]

I loved him last year because I thought he did such a good job of tailoring the defense to his personnel. They did not have very good corners last year, at least unproven corners. And instead of playing a lot of man and a lot of single high like he used to back at Boston College and with the Niners, they played a lot of COVID too in order to hide some of those players. And I just think that shows real awareness. What is my talent and how can I get the most out of them? Well now as the talent has started to really increase, including Micah Parsons, those ideas, being able to deploy those guys in the right ways, it's still happening. The players are just better. You combine Micah Parsons with real leaps from some of the young guys. Quay Walker, Edwin Cooper, Keyshawn Nixon, who's now in his second year as a corner, he's getting better. The incremental improvements you've needed from the youngest roster in the league has happened. The coaching ideas are still very good. And now you're starting to develop superstar level players. When you're all those three things are coming together at the same time. You're getting the 2025 packers so far.

[Colin Cowherd]

So Al Michaels threw a little shade at the Eagles last night saying not all great teams are fun to watch and everybody summarily knew what he was talking about. Whereas the Bills are. I think America is kind of rooting for the Buffalo Bills to win. I know emotionally I'm not supposed to root, but I kind of am. Philadelphia is fascinating. I like the Rams this weekend. I think Jared Verse and that defensive front is a problem. I think the last half of last year, post Thanksgiving, I thought it was the most improved defense really fast. Young players, when they get hurt, recover more quickly. It's the packers offense. Is the Rams defense not paid proven getting better? Philadelphia is an anomaly. They decided after the buy last year we're not going to throw anymore, especially downfield. Is it sustainable? It doesn't feel like it's built to play from behind. It's just wild in a pass first league they don't throw it downfield. I mean, don't you think over the course of five weeks, seven weeks, nine weeks, that will be a liability?

[Robert Mays]

Absolutely. Eventually you have to be able to do a little bit of everything. And it especially becomes a problem when the run game is no longer as dynamic as it was last year. And you're already seeing that Saquon's averaging less than four yards a carry.

[JMAC (J. Max Dubois)]

Is he?

[Robert Mays]

Yes. And the down to down efficiency, he's below average right now compared to running backs around the league. And I think a lot of that is you're seeing offensive line changes for them. The right guard, Tyler Steen takes over from Akai Becton this year. He's had his issues. Landon Dickerson at left guard clearly has not been healthy over the first couple weeks, and the tight ends on this team are not strong run blockers, and I think they've really run into some issues there as well. So if you're going to be a team that doesn't want to throw the ball down the field, you better be the most explosive, dynamic running team in the league. And through the first couple weeks, they just really haven't been that Be sure.

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[Robert Mays]

Yes.

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[Colin Cowherd]

Yeah, the sticking with Los Angeles, I said this yesterday. Everybody thought it was hyperbolic. And I said, folks, if the NFL hall of Fame was the Basketball hall of Fame, where, like, a globetrotter and an official can make it, but football, Atlanta's got the College hall of Fame, Canton's got the pro. But like basketball, if you combine them, I could argue Jim Harbaugh is the best coach ever. He has taken five car wrecks, except Stanford, because. And there's some academic reasons why he was great. The next year, all of them, he leaves. They're all a hazmat spill instantly. So it's not that you lose a good coach. I mean, Jimmy Johnson's a great coach to me, one of the five best ever. He leaves. He built up good personnel. The next coach comes in, takes Jimmy's players. He's always a great personnel guy as a coach, and they win. Jim leaves. It's man overboard. I find him to be a remarkable guy. He's much more happier now when you do at the Athletic. Robert, when you talk about the Chargers and you talk about what he took over, Herbert's even better. How do people view him? I don't think he was likable seven or eight years ago, even. Even by Michigan people, he was driving the AD crazy. How do people view Harbaugh in the league?

[Robert Mays]

He's a force multiplier. He is able to get the most out of whatever the roster talent looks like. And I think that you've seen that consistently, and it's hard to know what the secret sauce of that exactly is.

[Colin Cowherd]

Right.

[Robert Mays]

I went there last year and I spent two days in the locker room talking to guys because I was curious about this exact question. And the answers are kind of all over the place. Two that stick with me. I asked Derwin James, I was like, what is culture to you in the NFL? And he said, culture to me is when you look at the logo, what do you see? Oh, that's cool. Derwin James said that to me.

[Colin Cowherd]

That's really smart.

[Robert Mays]

And I thought that that was such an astute point. And I think with the Chargers starting to feel a certain identity when you.

[Colin Cowherd]

Watch them play, that's really interesting.

[Robert Mays]

And then Deon Henley told me a story about how they would go through even in OTAs. And every single player associated with the organization, coaches, players got up and they said, why are you here? Right? What brings you here? Why do you want to be good? Why do you want to be great? Why do you want to be successful? And every person gave their answer in front of the entire team. And so I think that there's just a real conscious how do I build connective tissue in this building? How do I make people feel invested? How do I get the best out of them? And the best example of this to me is what Justin Herbert has played like. Because when Justin Herbert played for Joe Lombardi in that old offense, it always felt like he was a little tight.

[Colin Cowherd]

Yes, Right.

[Robert Mays]

And there was just a roboticism to him and there wasn't a looseness to the way that he played. And you watch him in the last couple of years when he wasn't hurt last year and then the first couple weeks of this season, there's an aggressiveness he's willing to run like Jim Harbaugh, going up to him before the games and shaking his shoulder and gassing him up. That may seem silly, but I actually do think that there's a purpose and a motivation behind that to get him to play. I've always joked about it. I WISH Justin was 10% dumber. And I honestly think he has played the last year and a half like he's 10% dumber and it's been to his benefit. And I think Jim's a big reason for that.

[Colin Cowherd]

So we were saying that when I always think it's funny with Brady, the minute Mahomes comes into the league, people never wanted to love Brady because he was efficient and it was pre snap. I mean, Aaron Rodgers for years. Aaron's better than Tom. I mean, Tom wins, but it's Belichick. And then the minute Mahomes gets good, it's like, listen, Tom's a system guy. Mahomes is the. And I'm like, okay, whatever. Then he goes to Tampa and wins. And that quiets down. Josh Allen's the best quarterback in the world right now. And I know, and so I'm going to do this. And Patrick's a wonderful guy. But I've watched the last two years in the history of quarterbacks, Luck, Elway, Peyton, if you have massive horsepower, Favre, you throw picks. Like if you can throw 101, you throw 101. You don't throw the knuckler. Josh Allen has had about a year. Here's an amazing Stat. The Bills have not lost the Turnover battle in 25 games and they have a V12 for an engine. I find what we're watching, it's not validated through statistical precision like Hank Aaron surpassing Ruth. But in terms of we're watching history. This horsepower and no turnovers. Robert, doesn't make sense. Andrew Luck was brilliant. He couldn't get the reckless out. Eli Manning, brilliant. Couldn't get the reckless out. I'm watching, I'm watching this and I'm like, they're going to win the Super Bowl. They make no mistakes. They never turn it over. I don't know. I mean, I'm sure you have this encyclopedic knowledge of it, but I don't think he has a flaw right now.

[Robert Mays]

Absolutely not. I don't know what it would be because the turnovers were absolutely part of the decision making. Was part of it.

[Colin Cowherd]

Yes.

[Robert Mays]

And now even you've seen it happen in stages. And so two years ago in 2023, I thought he actually had a quiet case to be the mvp even if the team success wasn't there. He threw more picks in 2023, but really what was totally ramped down was the amount of sacks he was taking. He doesn't get sacked and you can.

[Colin Cowherd]

Two years in a row.

[Robert Mays]

Two years in a row. The sack avoidance is incredible. And I think part of that is the offensive line. Part of that is his elusiveness. But where he's really made the most progress, to me, outside of the accuracy, which that's undeniable. So much work has been done about how he worked on his mechanics and that's been. That story's been told. I think a story that's been less told is that he has become pre snap one of the best quarterbacks in the league. I think it's him and Mahomes. The Bills do such a great job of very subtly offering him information before the play. We're going to nudge the running back out in motion just a little bit. So you get half a step from the linebacker to know whether he's coming. And he's so smart that when you combine it with his athleticism and the offensive line talent, he's not going to get sacked because he has the answers to the test before it even starts. So you combine the mental horsepower with the physical horsepower that we're seeing and that has led to the Josh Allen that you're watching right now.

[Colin Cowherd]

If you're listening on our radio network 400 plus affiliates. His name is Robert Mays, writer at the Athletic has the Athletic Football show podcast. Obviously, this is just great information. I love this. One of the great advantages that you get to travel around and go to locker rooms. And I will say, I just hearing all this stuff is so much fun. So finally, let's pivot back to Bears. Cowboys. So I think it's a shootout. I think it's wild. I think it's incredibly fun. I do think Caleb gives me more precision past the first drive. Dak Prescott, I cannot believe how good he is. After a second, sir. I literally cannot believe how good he is. I'm going to put you on the spot. What is the game? I'm not a winner. What does the game look like? These are not great defenses.

[Robert Mays]

I think it looks like a shootout. I think it looks like a lot of points because the Cowboys offense is rolling. As somebody who's always believed in Dak Prescott, the last two weeks have been a dream. Not just because of his play, but when I was frustrated with the Dallas offense over the last few years, it always just felt very static to me. It was very spread out, it was very shotgun. And you just can't play that way unless you have truly elite, dominant perimeter receivers. And I'm not talking about just Ceedee Lamb, the two teams that could get away playing that way, the Bengals and the Eagles, because you got those two guys and you just have horses on the outside. The Cowboys never had that. And so I always wanted to feel just to tick more dynamic, just league average play action rate, league average motion rate, and get him one more weapon. All of that has happened. Yeah, every single one of those things has lined up. And now the Dak Prescott that always existed, the one that's aggressive, that processes really well, you're still seeing that guy, but everything else around him has led to a more explosive offense. And so I think that is here to stay for the most part, as long as Dallas stays healthy this year. And I think the Dallas defense is going to be a problem over the course of the year. And so those games are going to include a lot of points. I think this Sunday is one of them.

[Colin Cowherd]

I think history is going to be very kind to Dak Prescott is that he has had three coaches, none of whom were wildly popular with the critics or the fans. And every year with Dak, you basically get a 98 passer rating, 30 touchdowns, 10 picks, 67% completion percentage. Unbelievable intangibles leadership. He went through the pandemic. Blm. You know, in the state of Texas, that was controversial. It is. I said I was Never like a huge Dak fan, but it's almost like a band that you got as they age. You're like. Or, you know, Robert Redford. I grew up with that, so I knew all the President's Men. But sometimes you'll go. And when a celebrity passes, you go to YouTube and listen to their music, or you go and look at their idm, IBM page or IDMB page, and you're like, there are a lot of good movies. I look at Dak Prescott now, and I'm like, Brian Schottenheimer, Jason Garrett, Mike McCarthy. He's going to get hall of Fame votes. He is going to get hall of Fame votes, is he not?

[Robert Mays]

I think he probably deserves it if he has five more seasons like the one that we're watching right now, or, like the 2023 season. Comparing it to the music thing, to me, like, Dak is like Foo Fighters, right? It's just this band that you never thought was the best band, but they've been doing it for so long at a pretty good clip. And Dave Grohl did it with Nirvana. He did it with Foo Fighters. He can do it in different situations, like Dak has been that you're never going to say Dak Prescott is the best quarterback in the world, the same way you're never going to say that Dave Grohl is the best rock star in the world. But there is a consistency and a legitimacy for so long that you really can't deny it.

[Colin Cowherd]

I thought I was good with analogies. Foo Fighters crushed. That's the best that. It's the best connectivity I've ever heard on your show. What a pleasure. Robert Mays lives in Chicago. Check him out at the Athletic, which is absolutely worth every penny. It's a pleasure to meet you.

[Robert Mays]

Thank you very much for having me.

[Colin Cowherd]

And J. Max dubious picks next, the Herd. Be sure to catch live editions of.

[Matt Jones]

The Herd, weekdays at noon Eastern, 9am Pacific. Hey, this is Matt Jones. I'm Drew Franklin, and this is NFL Cover Zero. We think NFL coverage should be informative and entertaining, and twice a week, that is exactly what you're going to get. We're just here to try to give you an NFL perspective a little bit different. Did you see the Colts pretzel? That was my other big takeaway from that game. What was that? Looks like something that should not be sold. Oh, my. So that was my other big Colts takeaway. They sold that?

[Colin Cowherd]

Yes.

[Matt Jones]

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[JMAC (J. Max Dubois)]

Play the Fox super six NFL Challenge, download the Fox Sports app and enter for a free shot to win your share of $10,000. One of the questions is which QB will have the most passing yards in week three? Colin, you got Dak Stafford Love or Baker?

[Colin Cowherd]

Who? You got Dak Prescott in a shootout against the Bear. I cannot wait to watch that game. I. That is fascinating. I'm gonna take. Dak throws for over 275 yards.

[JMAC (J. Max Dubois)]

I think that's a good wager by you.

[Colin Cowherd]

Well, it's week three across the National Football League. Is it time to panic for some teams? Who's on the rise? Who's regressing? We like to call it tomorrow's headlines today as JMAC predicts the headline we'll.

[West West Prop]

Be reading on Monday.

[Colin Cowherd]

Let's start Rams at the Eagles.

[JMAC (J. Max Dubois)]

Yeah, let's bust right into a column with the best game on the board. Sunday, the defending super bowl champs at home against the Rams. The headline will be Hookah and rally. Philly can't go shot for shot with la. I'm kind of with you on this. I think the LA offense is just a little too high powered for Philly. We haven't seen too much from the Eagles offensively yet. Maybe there's an offensive coordinator issue or they're just playing to their strengths. But there were some Lane Johnson comments today, like literally in the last hour about this whole tush push thing and how he knows that the penalty flags are coming. I think if you remove that from the Eagles, it changes the calculus of their offense. You can't just go for, hey, let's get to third and short and we've got two downs to get it because I think the NFL is going to litigate it a little stronger this week. I will say I mentioned this earlier, the Rams seem like a public underdog this week. Those are very dangerous. 80% of the bets at one shop in Vegas has the fans on the Rams at getting three and a half. Don't feel awesome about that. But I'll take the Rams and their offense to cover and pull the upset of the Eagles.

[Colin Cowherd]

Well, I'm still waiting for the first Cam Ward w tomorrow's headlines today, Daniel Jones and the Colts at Tennessee.

[JMAC (J. Max Dubois)]

You know I'm a weirdo, Colin. I like these ugly, gross games. I mean this is, this is nasty. But you can find an edge in that because nobody's talking about it on TV all day. The headline for this one will be Smile for the camera. Ward picture perfect in first win. Colin. I've got this as a major upset. I've got in the first win of the season for Cam Ward. I think they pull it off at home against the mighty Colts and Daniel Jones. Everybody loves DJ Colin, I got some great stats for you. So 02 underdogs, okay. Going back the last 15 years, nobody wants anything to do with them because they look bad for two games in a row. Owen, two underdogs in week three are hitting at 66% against the spread.

[Colin Cowherd]

Wow.

[JMAC (J. Max Dubois)]

Because nobody wants to bet them. I mean this game should have probably been like a pick em, right? If you're looking at the summer line now you've got all of a sudden laying numbers with the Colts on the road. The one injury concern for the Titans I have is sweat. The big fella in the middle out of Texas. He's been great against the run, hasn't practiced all week. They just announced here in the last 10 minutes. He's a game time decision. That's not great because Jonathan Taylor has looked incredible. I will say I love this matchup also because it's a, it's two former Cincinnati guys. Brian Callahan who was with Burrow against captain Lou the defensive coordinator, I think big edge to Cam Ward and company. Final number for you, Colin. You'll like this. Indy 30th in pressures through two games. Okay. Cam Ward has faced two brutal defenses. Denver at altitude and the Rams they get after the quarterback. The Colts they do not. I think Cam Ward gets his first win.

[Colin Cowherd]

I like that. Good pick. Tomorrow's headlines today. You have been on this since Monday. Falcons literally lost a 401k multiple college kids education on the Falcons over the last 15 years. What say you?

[JMAC (J. Max Dubois)]

Yeah, well, let's, let's go get everybody a jet ski. The headline for Falcons Panthers will be working 9 to 5. Falcons stand on business hours. I know you love stand on business. Colin. This is a Bijan Robinson special. He's going to go off. I mean this is a terrible Carolina run defense cannot stop the run at all. It's going to be Bijan, Tony Algier. I think they just ground and pound their way to victory. And oh, by the way, okay, I know everybody says, well, Bryce Young, he cooked the Falcons last year. Remember late in the season. Yeah, he was like wearing a tuxedo in the pocket. The Falcons had no pass rush through two weeks. Atlanta's pass rush, one of the best in the league. Yeah, they invested heavily, right. Two guys in the first round and then they went out and got Leonard Floyd. I really like the Falcons here. Colin, here's a fun stat for you. The Carolina Panthers, the only team through two weeks to lead for zero seconds, have not had a lead at all this season. Can't play from behind. I think Atlanta wins this handily.

[Colin Cowherd]

Yeah, we keep waiting. You know, it's interesting about Bryce Young. There are moments, there are halves, there are. And they just can't put it together. They just can't. All right, this is one of the games I like tomorrow's headlines. Today, Saints, the dome team cross country against Seattle, a team that has, I mean the second half defense against the Niners and the Steelers was pretty redeemable by Seattle.

[JMAC (J. Max Dubois)]

Seattle, it was plucky. I mean, you know, consider the opponent. Obviously we don't. We're down on Aaron Rodgers. But the headline for Seahawks Saints will be his poor performance. Rattler kept coiled by circling Hawks. Now listen, I love this at seven. I don't love it as much at seven and a half. Obviously seven a key number. But Colin Spencer rattler 08 as a starter. I haven't seen it, man. If you look at his, you know, next gen stats, has the passing charts, nothing down the field. He just doesn't want to make mistakes. So he's doing quick short stuff. Now he faces arguably the best secondary in the league in Seattle. I think they eat him up at maybe a one or two defensive touchdowns. If you've got the Seahawks defense and fantasy, I can almost guarantee a victory for you. This feels like a big Kenneth Walker game. Listen, where are you on Darnold? It's still early in the season.

[Colin Cowherd]

No, I, I, I, I lie. I don't think this organization is as good as Minnesota and Kevin o' Connell with play calling and play design. But what they're asking Sam to do. Last year, Sam was asked to carry a defense that I don't think. I think the Seattle defense is special. I think this run game is special. They're not asking Sam to do things that can get Sam in trouble. They're not asking him to throw 38 times a game. What they're asking him to do is throw on, play action, protect the football. And then. And Sam's pretty good at this. Three or four times a game, you're going to get loose and make a play. So I think Sam's always been at his best when he's not asked to carry. He is asked to athletically complement an offense and I think it's a perfect fit for him.

[JMAC (J. Max Dubois)]

Totally agree. He's going to keep it safe. No, just don't turn the ball over. And Seattle should coast to like a 28 to 10 victory.

[Colin Cowherd]

Yes.

[JMAC (J. Max Dubois)]

Yeah.

[Colin Cowherd]

Finally, tomorrow's headlines today. Listen. NFC teams at Baltimore against Lamar usually is a recipe for an L. Now.

[JMAC (J. Max Dubois)]

I, I did get the Monday night game wrong last week. I had Texans. That one hurt, man.

[Colin Cowherd]

Same here.

[JMAC (J. Max Dubois)]

And, and listen, I looked at your Cowboys Bears game. I kind of wanted to take Dallas backed off, but I'm going with Monday night, the headline for Ravens Lions will B turn your head and golf Lions fail physical test. Colin, I just, I can't get out of my head the vision of Detroit outdoors in week one looking slow and plotting and the offensive line kind of crumbling. And then they go home and they look incredible. I just don't think they're the same team indoors versus outdoors. You know, I know everybody's excited about Goff and Amara connected again last week and they're back. Colin, again, this is a totally different animal. The Ravens are one of the three best teams in the league. The Bears, they're maybe one of the five worst. This is just a big step up in class for Goff. I think pressure up the middle will continue to rattle him. And I think, like you said, Lamar Jackson Something like 242 against the NFC. I would not be surprised if this was a big Derrick Henry. Lamar Jackson, ground Game two and the last time they met outdoors a couple years ago, Detroit was 5 and 1. It was 35 nothing in the middle of the third quarter.

[Colin Cowherd]

It got rolled.

[JMAC (J. Max Dubois)]

They got, they got dump trucks.

[Colin Cowherd]

I also think because the Bears are such a high profile team right now because the Caleb story that overvaluing the Detroit win.

[JMAC (J. Max Dubois)]

Yes.

[Colin Cowherd]

That we're like, okay, this is the real team. They were not competitive against the packers. And I think, I think we just, we have to look at the Bears right now as an experiment more than anything. So I like, I just take the Bears game out and I, I, I don't know, I just, I look at this team, there's still two coordinators. I question, I question their defense in the middle of their offensive line. Their run game's not as viable, it's not as strong. So I think this is a tough spot. I think there are ways to beat Baltimore dominant time of possession and I don't think they'll bring that to the table.

[JMAC (J. Max Dubois)]

Yeah, totally agree.

[Colin Cowherd]

Good stuff today. We agree on, let's see, hold on one, three. I don't think we've ever had three picks.

[Robert Mays]

Yeah.

[Colin Cowherd]

First of all we've never had three of the same picks. We've never agreed on three picks. So this is a first.

[JMAC (J. Max Dubois)]

Yeah. By the way, we talked earlier about Chargers, Broncos. That looks like it's headed toward three. You can't get the normal rate. I think the Chargers are going to be favored by three. That keep Colin. If the Chargers go 30 in the division start the, start the season. That's a big cushion with wins in your pocket over Raiders, Chiefs and Broncos.

[Colin Cowherd]

You know what's remarkable about Chargers? When they lost Rashawn Slater. I came on the other next day, I'm like, I'm like that's two Ls. Joe Alt has been unbelievable and everybody wanted him to take a receiver their.

[JMAC (J. Max Dubois)]

Season neighbors was the guy right?

[Colin Cowherd]

Yep. They went classic car ball. He's like, we're going to move Joe Alt right tackle to left. He's, he's been as good or better than Slater. He's not even, he's not even allowing a pressure. So yeah, we as we're showing our TV audience the schedule. Listen, I'll tell you what's going to get a huge rating and I think it's going to be close and a lot of points. The Cowboys Bears is going to get a monster number as long as the game is close and I think it's going to be. I had Eric Mangini, former NFL coach joining us And I talked about, I said, you know, it's amazing. Here's Dak on a second surgery with Brian Schottenheimer. George Pickens. And I said to Eric, like, you always get the same Dak. Here he is. It's year after year of drama and.

[Robert Mays]

Dysfunction and everything that goes into sort.

[Colin Cowherd]

Of Jerry's, Jerry's world.

[JMAC (J. Max Dubois)]

But Dak's not part of that. And I've been so impressed by Dak.

[Colin Cowherd]

These first two games. He's the highest paid player right now.

[Robert Mays]

In the league and he actually looked.

[Colin Cowherd]

Like he deserved that distinction over the last two, two games.

[Robert Mays]

And there's not been many times where.

[JMAC (J. Max Dubois)]

I could have said that about Dak.

[Colin Cowherd]

Yeah, no, I, it's like, you know, Josh Allen signed a team friendly deal. Dak didn't necessarily. So there's, there are, there's always repercussions when you have a quarterback that doesn't take necessarily a team friendly deal. And, and so you can't get Derrick Henry like the Cowboys needed last year. But Javante Williams has been a nice pickup. George Pickens through two games, not a lot of drama. CD Lamb's fantastic. I think the Cowboys O line, Tyler Smith & Co. Haven't had been a pleasant surprise. I think the old line's been good. So, I mean, you can score your way to the playoffs. You're not going to win a lot of playoff games if you're bad defensively, but you can score your way to making the playoffs. We've seen, you know, we've seen teams do that through the years. Cincinnati, you know, with Burrow. But I mean, at some point you do have to play defense. I mean, last year Burrow didn't make the playoffs despite being arguably the best quarterback in the league. So I think to beat the great teams, especially on the road, you got to be able to make stops. I don't know if Dallas can, but they are. To me, the two surprises in the league have been Daniel Jones at quarterback for the Colts. That's been surprising. And Dallas overall, I thought this coaching staff, I did, I thought this thing would unravel. I think I said it, I could see it unraveling. By week five or six they should be two and oh, should have beaten Philadelphia in. Philadelphia should have. All right. Eric Mangini, Robert Mays, a good show today. Blazin 5, all sorts of good stuff. Have a good weekend. Some good college football tomorrow as well. USC, Michigan State game sniffing 3 and 040. The Toyota Certified used vehicle sales event is here. It is packed with great surprises choose from a wide selection of low mileage vehicles, all backed by Toyota, with warranties that begin on the date of purchase. Because when it comes to quality, the best new cars make the best used cars. So don't miss your chance. Find your certified Toyota today, but hurry. These Great offers end November 3rd. Toyota Certified used Vehicle Sales event where every surprise is a great one. Inventory may vary by dealer, participating dealers only. Comprehensive and powertrain are limited Warranties. See TCUV Warranty supplement Toyota certified certified.com or your Toyota dealer for details.

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