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THE HERD - Hour 3 - The One Place Lane Kiffin Should Leave Ole Miss For
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Sophie Cunningham
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Colin Cowherd
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Sophie Cunningham
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Brian Baldinger
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Colin Cowherd
Thanks for listening to the Herd podcast. Be sure to catch us live every weekday on Fox Sports Radio at noon to 3 Eastern, 9am to noon Pacific. Find your local station for the herd@foxsportsradio.com or stream us live every day on the iHeartRadio app by searching Fox Sports Radio or FSR. Now let's get this party started.
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Brian Baldinger
You're listening to fox Sports Radio.
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Colin Cowherd
13 years in the NFL, played every offensive line position for the Dallas Cowboys, made the playoffs three times, works for the NFL Network, does a really good job of breaking down. I said this three or four years ago. It just popped off the Internet and I was watching Baldi's breakdowns and he's now at the NFL Films offices in the Northeast. So you know Quinn and Williams. I said, Quinn and Williams is another escape from New York success story. Like coach, coaches, players leave and they're just that's why I said, watch Sauce Gardner with the Colts. Over time it'll pay off. I look at Quinn and I was like, oh, that's the Robert Solon Quinn. And that's an elite top five interior D lineman. Many people thought he was regressing. What did the tape say?
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Brian Baldinger
Well, I mean, he had one sack with the jets in the first eight games of the season. He had a sack and a half and five quarterback hits. You Know, just the other night against the Raiders, I mean they couldn't block him one on one. The Raiders should know that that's not a good offensive line. But you know, him and Kenny Clark and Genevieve and you know, you add in Logan Wilson and Malik, Hooker comes back and demarvie and Overshone, all of a sudden this defense might have a chance to be pretty good. We'll find out against Philly this week. But I mean Jerry should be smiling because I think it was a good deal because Quinn could flat out play. He's just sick of losing is what he's sick of, be honest with you. But he's always been able to play.
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Colin Cowherd
Do you I said this, I'm more optimistic on the Cowboys because they don't need a quarterback and have two first round picks and people will trade up and overdraft quarterbacks. It's now what we do in the NFL. You just every even good GMs acknowledge you're going to have to overdraft that position so they can manipulate the draft. They'll go out and get a Caleb Downs, an edge rusher and now with Kenny Clark and Quinn and Williams and Overshone, you're like, okay, that's a pretty good front seven. So I'm, I'm pretty high on them. A question is do when you watch the film on the Cowboys CD Lambs A1, do they need to sign Pickens or it looks like to me they've got a few of these guys who can run and catch. Do you feel Pickens is a guy despite his personality? Would you resign him or do you think they're pretty stocked at receiver?
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Brian Baldinger
I'd resign them. I mean they haven't had an X receiver like that, you know, maybe since Amari Cooper first came there, it's been a big void. And what it really allows, you know, Brian Schottenheimer in the offense to move CD around where he's best in matchups in motion in the Z position. And so you can really line up a guy on the outside to take on the best corner in some cases. And then you know, you have CD in the middle of the field doing what he does because he's just so tough and skilled in there. I, I think I would resign him. He's having the best year of his career right now and you know, I think there's still a lot of good football to be played this year from.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah, I also think Dax maturity is that he's dealt with DEZ Bryant Dak makes it easier to have a with a teammate With a big personality. He had Zeke, he had Des, Dax. You know, I always tend to think like that. A.J. let's talk Eagles. The A.J. brown drama, to me would be worse if it wasn't Jalen Hurts. Who Vegas used to call it a cooler if somebody was hot at the table. That's kind of a Jalen. He's kind of a grown up. He's got a high iq, eq Philadelphia. It's interesting. They are not good when Lane Johnson doesn't play well, you know, o line, he's a right tackle. What ha. I mean, right tackles aren't supposed to be that valuable. What happens when he leaves? Because the Jalen's five and nine without Lane starting. What do you make of that?
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Brian Baldinger
Well, I mean, you just got to look at, you know, some of the edge rushers that go over the right tackle. I mean, you know, whether it was Von Miller's prime or T.J. watt, you know, you're seeing some of the best passwords Brian Burns. You're seeing some of the best pass rushers in this league line up over the right tackle. Now Fred Johnson is taking his place. No relation, by the way. But no. They, so they, they have, they've had a lot. Like they lost the jets one year a couple years ago when Lane got hurt in the first quarter and Bryce Huff went nuts and they turned the ball over. A bunch of the jets somehow beat the Eagles up at MetLife Stadium. So, I mean, there's great pass rushers over that position, but Lane doesn't get beat. He hasn't been beat once this whole year. Like he's just a complete lockdown, elite talent. He's the best tackle in football and has been. And so when you have to take a step down from the very best, you know, it starts to look a little bit normal some Sundays out there.
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Colin Cowherd
So people are really mixed on Caleb Williams. Ben Johnson has created a run first team. They're good late, but even the people I bring on, like Matt Hasselbeck, I can tell in his voice he's still not buying it. What concerns you with Caleb, obviously the good stuff, the horsepower we can see when you break down Caleb, is there stuff that worries you still?
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Brian Baldinger
He's evolving. You know, he's never played under center before. You know, he's playing under center and it's a big part of what they do. I mean, they run the ball from him under center. They, they, they probably play action pass as much as anybody. Maybe the Rams do a little bit more. But he did play action pass off that as much as you can. He's throwing the ball on timing a lot better than he once did. He's not as frenetic as he was at USC or last year as a rookie. I see an improving player and his, his ability to stay on his feet. At this time last year he had been sacked 41 times and right now he's been sacked 16. He's not taking nearly as many sacks. He's seeing the field. If the guys could catch his ball a little bit better, his stats would be better. But I think this guy's got, I mean, we'll find out. He's got a big game against Pittsburgh in that pass rush this week. But I believe in, in, in Caleb a lot and I think he's only going to get better because I think Ben Johnson coaches him the right way. He coaches him hard, he pushes him hard. I think he's pulling all the right buttons with Caleb right now.
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Colin Cowherd
So Bo Nix, great late, man. He can struggle. In fact, last week I think was the first time in nine games they scored in their opening drive, which is strange because Peyton is one of the great play designers in the league. It's on script. Where are you with Bo right now?
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Brian Baldinger
Well, I thought that was a great game last week that John Payton had. If, I know you watched it, but if, you know, if you listen to Sean, he was really perturbed by some of the national pundits out there saying now they're playing with house money against Kansas City, they don't have to be too wrecked. Well, all we did was attack from an opening drive when they scored, got the ball down. They missed Troy Franklin on one, but they took seven deep shots in that game. They didn't connect on all of them, but they kept the safeties honest back there. And at the end when they needed it the most, they got the ball down the field of Troy Franklin in, you know, in overtime to go win that thing. Like I like his approach. Sean Payton is maniacal about red zone offense. They missed a couple, but they also made a couple and they made the important one when they needed it most. So I like Bo Nix. I like the way, I like his athletic ability. I like his toughness. I think Sean loves him and he's thrown to all young Pat Brian. So rookie Troy Franklin's a second year player. Like a lot of young players that they're building this thing around. They could have gone at the trade deadline and found another receiver. There was guys out there, but they're building it with these young guys. He's building the connection that he has with these guys.
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Colin Cowherd
I haven't loved his judgment from the speeding tickets to the legendary draft room, but I thought Chador was okay. I liked his spin move. And then he followed up with a throw to the end zone that I thought was a big boy throw. Everybody's beaten up. People are very tribal. They're either all for him, he's getting picked on, or he's a bum. I'm kind of like, well, he's a backup for a reason. What did you see on film?
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Brian Baldinger
I think, you know, I mean, look, it was a rough outing. There's no question. I mean, they blitzed him like crazy. There were some breakdowns from pass protection with the right guard to the running back where he was under siege. But, you know, when it was 23:16 and he had two minutes to go down the field, he hit Harold Fannin over the middle. I mean, it was as good as any throw you're going to see all year. And it was. It was cloudy in there, too. But he hit Fannin for 25. He hit Judy on third and 10 for 10. He ran for five when there was an opening there. I did take two shots to the end zone. One hit Lavar Dane right in the hands. It got pulled out.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah.
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Brian Baldinger
Judy had a drop. I thought, you know, what he said after the game was important. He said, look, he goes, this is a game of details. I need to be detailed with my guys. Maybe the throw that was incomplete to Judy on a comeback, you know, maybe he completes that this week with a week of work and timing. Because that's a typical route against a cover three zone. The receivers coming back to the football. And he was a little late with the throw, and it got defended. And you're right, I mean, he took another shot to the end zone. I thought he could have hit Judy on the out, could have gotten out of bounds, got a little closer to the end zone, fresh set of downs. Maybe he can make that a better decision this week with a week of work. But the idea that he's supposed to be great with no work, not a meaningful snap since August, it's ludicrous. Honestly, I don't care who it is.
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Colin Cowherd
Finally. You know, I've always said, if you're the last player taken in the draft, I don't think all the GMs passed on Brock Purdy because they're all nitwits. There's limitations. He was reckless in college. I love college football. I remember him. He was a winning quarterback, but he was Reckless, he doesn't have great size. He's a little more athletic than people give him credit for. But there is no question, last week when he came in, it does look like Kyle can use about 15 more plays. They move the pocket a lot with him. And where. Where have you always landed with him?
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Brian Baldinger
I love him. I mean, I love his decision making. I love his accuracy. I love his moxie, the ability to extend plays. He's not the biggest guy. He's, you know, and so there is a little bit of limitation there, especially with throwing from the pocket. But, I mean, he's as tough as they come. And honestly, Mac Jones had played really well in his replacement. And the question all we, week after week was, well, is, is Brock still your quarterback? And he always stood by him. And after watching him against Arizona, he's their quarterback, like, he didn't skip a beat. He played as well as he's played all year or anytime last year. Like, he didn't miss many throws. It was really well designed. A lot of the. The routes, like this throw to Kittle right here on a little, you know, taking a deep. I mean, it's a great throw. It's a great route combination. Throw him a lot of cheese and hit Kittle behind him. But I thought he hit all the throws that were designed to be made. One on one with Kittle against the linebacker, one on one with McCaffrey against Cody Simon. Like, he hit the throws that he had to hit and it was on time. He was very sharp. And it was. Because that's not. It's not. It. It's not a great defense. But they are difficult because they do a lot and they throw a lot of coverages at you and a lot of blitzes. And I thought he handled things really well.
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Colin Cowherd
Brian Baldinger, it is always a pleasure to talk to you. He's in the NFL Films offices. Do they provide good, good craft services lunch there? Is it just you and Phil?
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Brian Baldinger
The cafeteria is unreal. I got Emad down there. He's my chef. Like, the pork today was on point. I got. I'm so happy right now. It was fantastic.
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Colin Cowherd
People always say, what do you like about Fox? And I always say, man, that cafeteria is something else.
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Brian Baldinger
No bad meals. Yeah, I'm with you.
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Colin Cowherd
Great seeing you, baldy.
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Brian Baldinger
Okay, thanks.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah. And J. Mac, we got pretty good chili con carne here, but it doesn't. It doesn't. It's not quite as good as you got there, I'll say that.
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Sports Analyst (possibly a co-host or guest)
You know, I had a guy, Tyler here, got me A donut today. That was incredible. I mean, cafeteria here. You're right, it's on point.
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Brian Baldinger
Be sure to catch live editions of.
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Colin Cowherd
The Herd, weekdays at noon Eastern, 9am.
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Brian Baldinger
Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, FS1 and the iHeartRadio app.
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Colin Cowherd
Hey, we're Covino and Rich, Fox Sports radio every day, 5 to 7pm Eastern. But here's the thing. We never have enough time to get to everything we want to get to. And that's why we have a brand new podcast called Over Promised. You see, we're having so much fun in our two hour show. We never get to everything honestly, because this guy is over promising things we never have time for.
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Brian Baldinger
Yeah, you blubber lips, blaming me.
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Colin Cowherd
Well, you know what it's called? Over Promise. You should be good at it because you've been overpromising women for years. Well, it's a Covino and Rich after show and we want you to be a part of it. We're going to be talking, talking sports, of course, but we're also gonna talk life and relationships. And if Rich and I are arguing about something or we didn't have enough time, it will continue on our after show called Over Promised. Well, if you don't get enough Covino and Rich, make sure you check out Over Promised and also uncensored, by the way, so maybe we'll go at it even a little harder. It's gonna be the best after show podcast of all time. There you go. Over promising. And remember, you could see it on YouTube, but definitely. Join us. Listen to Over Promised with Covino and rich on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Sophie Cunningham
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Colin Cowherd
In life, timing is everything. You can have the right talent, the right mindset, even the right team. But if you don't act at the right moment, the opportunity slips away. That's true on the field and it's true when it comes to your health. If you or someone you care about is facing metastatic prostate cancer, there's a treatment called plavicto lutetium LU 177 vapivotide tetraxitan. It's not chemotherapy. It works differently by targeting PSMA positive cells, including prostate cancer cells. Pluvicto is a prescription treatment used to treat adults with prostate specific membrane antigen positive metastatic castration resistant prostate cancer or PSMA positive MCRPC who have already been treated with hormone therapy and are considered appropriate to delay chemotherapy. Pluvicto involves contact with radioactivity, which may increase the risk for cancer and cause fetal harm. Patients are advised to drink plenty of fluids, urinate often, use contraception and talk to their doctor about how to reduce the risk of exposing others to radiation during and after treatment. It can also cause low levels of blood cell counts, kidney problems and infertility. If you experience weakness, pale skin, shortness of breath, bleeding or bruising more easily an infection or changes in urination, talk to your doctor. Side effects include decreased blood cell counts, tiredness, dry mouth, nausea, appetite loss, joint or back pain and constipation. Here's the bottom line. This isn't just about treatment. It's about making the most of the time you have time to be with the people who matter, time to keep showing up for the moments that count. So if you or someone you love is in this fight, ask your doctor about Pluvicto. Because in sports and in life, the best players don't just react. They anticipate. They prepare. They act. Visit pluvicto.com to learn more. That's P L U V I c t o.com Thursday Night Football is on, and it's only on Prime Video. This week, the Buffalo Bills and Houston Texans collide in an AFC showdown. Coverage begins at 7pm Eastern with football's best party, TNF. Tonight presented by Verizon. Not a Prime member. Not a problem. Simply sign up for a 30 day free trial. It's the Bills and the Texans Thursday at 7pm Eastern, only on Prime Video. Restrictions apply. See Amazon.com Amazon prime for details. I'm Robert Smith, this is Jacob Goldstein. And we used to host a show called Planet Money.
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Brian Baldinger
And now we're back making this new.
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Colin Cowherd
Podcast called Business History about the best ideas and people and businesses in history and some of the worst people, horrible ideas and destructive companies in the history of business. Having a genius idea without a need for it is nothing. It's like not having it at all. It's a very simple, elegant lesson. Make something people want. First episode, how Southwest Airlines use cheap seats and free whiskey to fight its way into the airline business. The most Texas story ever. There's a lot of mavericks in that story. We're gonna have mavericks on the show. We're gonna have plenty of robber barons. So many robber barons. And you know what? They're not all bad.
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Brian Baldinger
And we'll talk about some of the.
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Colin Cowherd
Classic great moments of famous business geniuses, along with some of the darker moments that often get overlooked, like Thomas Edison.
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Sports Analyst (possibly a co-host or guest)
And the electric chair.
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Colin Cowherd
Listen to business history on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.
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Public Investing Ad Voice
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Brian Baldinger
No, no, no, no.
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Colin Cowherd
Turn on the news.
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Brian Baldinger
This is the Herd line news.
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Sports Analyst (possibly a co-host or guest)
Well, it's time to talk about your bff, your amigo, Aaron Rodgers. Colin, I know you're waiting with bated breath. What's going on with the wrist? Well, he does not need surgery. According to Mike Tomlin, there is a fracture in the wrist. However, in an amazing turn of events, Tomlin hopes that Rogers is able to bring play this weekend against the Bears despite the slight fracture in his wrist. I don't know what a slight fracture is. It sounds like based on yesterday's reporting, that Rogers wants to tighten, tighten the ranks and not reveal any information. Yeah, the line is still three, but we're starting to see some two and a halfs in the desert.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah, you know, the Steelers are funny team. They go back and forth like overachieve, underachieve, overachieve, underachieve. So they just played really well, got great defensive playmaking. So now they have not been a consistent team. You kind of get a different team every week. And so this week I feel like now they're going to Chicago. Chicago is feeling itself and playing well. Everybody keeps doubting the Bears and they just keep winning. Ugly. So.
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Sports Analyst (possibly a co-host or guest)
Okay, can I, can I say something? So Bears, Vikings, Bears lead the whole way, blow the game at the end.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah.
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Sports Analyst (possibly a co-host or guest)
If they don't get a 60 yard kickoff return in the final minute, they probably lose to the Vikings because remember Caleb Williams, I don't know that Ben Johnson would have trusted him. He didn't even throw the ball on their. To set up their game winning drive to set up the field goal.
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Colin Cowherd
Right.
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Sports Analyst (possibly a co-host or guest)
So I don't know if they trust Caleb that much. So now you've got him against a Pittsburgh defense that should have. I think Heisman's back.
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Colin Cowherd
Right?
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Sports Analyst (possibly a co-host or guest)
You got Watt, Jalen Ramsey there like they got some dudes. I took a nibble of Chicago, but I, I'm, I'm feeling like this is probably a stay away given Rodgers. It sounds like they're going to try to get him to go.
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Colin Cowherd
Yep.
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Sports Analyst (possibly a co-host or guest)
What about if it's Mason Rudolph, can the Bears win that one?
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Colin Cowherd
Bears will win Mason Rudolph. I think Aaron makes it. Aaron's low mistake, high efficiency. Aaron gives him the shot. Believe it or not, Aaron can still help marginally. Yeah.
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Sports Analyst (possibly a co-host or guest)
All right, let's move on to Shadow Sanders.
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Colin Cowherd
The Browns people are into this, man. Yeah.
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Sports Analyst (possibly a co-host or guest)
The Browns starting quarterback.
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Colin Cowherd
I don't know.
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Sports Analyst (possibly a co-host or guest)
I mean, so his dad, Deion Sanders is going through it in Colorado. The Buffaloes are three and seven and remember, I know Shador's feeling heat in the NFL. Dion starting to feel some heat too. And Deion was asked about his team's struggles. Here we go.
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Brian Baldinger
If anybody is built for adversity, I am. If anybody is built for change, I am.
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Colin Cowherd
Is.
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Brian Baldinger
If anybody is built to overcome situations and trial and tribulations, I am.
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Colin Cowherd
You got the right man.
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Brian Baldinger
I promise you, you do. And I'm gonna prove that to you. I am. Just give me an opportunity and give me a little more time and I'm gonna prove that to you.
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Sports Analyst (possibly a co-host or guest)
So, Colin, this is how much has changed a year ago this time, Colorado riding high. Shedeur is going to be a top pick. Deion's great. One year later, Shedeur is like not highly thought of in Cleveland. He was with the practice.
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Colin Cowherd
Travis Hunter's done nothing.
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Sports Analyst (possibly a co-host or guest)
Travis Hunter's done nothing. Dion 3 and 7 and feeling heat. For the amount of money he's made that university the last couple years, I'm a little Surprised at this? Are you surprised he's feeling heat?
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Colin Cowherd
No, I think he's made Colorado interesting, relevant recruitings better. I don't know how relevant they are. I mean, the college football has really become the SEC against the Big Ten. And add Notre Dame. That's what the sport is right now. It's two major conferences with most of the good teams, plus Notre Dame. You know, I, when, when, when Dion got hired, I don't think anybody thought he was going to be schematically Kyle Whittingham at Utah. That's not what he is. Or Lincoln Riley. What he did is he added energy, focus, enthusiasm and juice. Colorado football's fun, but they don't, they don't have a big budget. It's never been that capitalized. It's not. It is what it is. It's not, you know, it's just, it's. If Colorado football, I'm dead serious, could win seven games a year, I think you'd have to take that to the bank. I've always said that about ucla. It's a basketball school. If UCLA could win eight games a year in football, take it now. I said that years ago and it got flack. UConn right now with Jim Mora, the former Bruin coach, is better than UCLA football. UConn a basketball school.
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Sports Analyst (possibly a co-host or guest)
So, Colin, like, again, I, I'm not going after Dion and Shador here. Is there a whiff of the ball brothers? Remember how for like two years, Lonzo Ball and company, they were one of the biggest stories in sports?
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah.
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Sports Analyst (possibly a co-host or guest)
You were talking about them almost every day. They were huge nationally. And then it quickly peters out, right?
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Brian Baldinger
It.
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Sports Analyst (possibly a co-host or guest)
Do you kind of feel like Dion and, and Shador, they had their moment in the sun and.
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Colin Cowherd
No, because I didn't, I didn't think there was any. I mean, there's both a lot of sizzle and not a ton of steak. I think that there's. But the difference is Dion is not. I mean, Deion did add juice, and Shador was a very interesting prospect. I, you know, I've thought about this. I don't remember any quarterback out of college where the people I trusted all thought he was going late first, middle second, smart people, and he tanked. But then you started hearing about the bombed interview with the New York Giants, which was multiple reported, multiple source. So I, I, I just, I never thought Dion was going to take this to a top five program. So I've kind of baked in. It was always going to be more hype than reality. But it's. When they're on television and they're playing somebody. I still watch.
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Brian Baldinger
Yeah.
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Colin Cowherd
And I didn't before Dion. I didn't.
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Sports Analyst (possibly a co-host or guest)
That's accurate. That's fair. Final story, Colin, is Baker Mayfield has had a career resurrection in the NFL. Remember with the Rams, he popped briefly, flew in for that Thursday night game against the Raiders and won it. He ended up starting four games in LA before moving on. Sean McVeigh talked about that experience.
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Colin Cowherd
I just remember a guy that had a pretty impressive, you know, just mental stamina over a small period of time to absorb a lot of information. And then, you know, it's one thing to absorb it. It's a totally different thing to be able to bring it to life when the enemy has his say. And it was impressive. But I think when you watch what he's done and kind of who he is, I think it's probably more on par for.
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Brian Baldinger
For what we expect of Baker than.
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Colin Cowherd
Kind of the outlier, you know, when.
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Brian Baldinger
You look at the totality of everything he's done.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah, it's an interesting game. The Rams are coming off a very intense division rivalry game with Seattle that came down to the last second. You know, a very physical game on both sides, a lot of emotion. I would expect the Rams to pull back, but Tampa Bay, as you and I talked about off air today, Tampa's now making their second long road trip. Cold weather, Buffalo now cross country. It's a tough spot for Tampa, but it does feel like the Saints and Atlanta are a mess. Carolina's charging. You were about a year early on Carolina. They're a real team offensively. But I tend to think Tampa will. Will be in this game, that Buffalo game. If you. I watched every snap. Tampa was in that game with 10 minutes to go. They. They were very resilient. They just couldn't make stops. I think Tampa will give the Rams some pushback.
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Sports Analyst (possibly a co-host or guest)
I would caution. I have a feeling this may make an appearance in headlines on Friday. And before you make any wagers, just look at how Matthew Stafford has done historically against one Todd Bowles. I'll leave it at that for now. That's called a tease.
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Colin Cowherd
By the way, Colin, pretty good cheese. J. Mac with the news.
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Brian Baldinger
Well, that's the news, and thanks for stopping by.
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Colin Cowherd
The Herd lie news live in Chicago. It's the Herd. Be sure to catch live editions of.
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Brian Baldinger
The Herd, Weekdays at noon Eastern, 9am Pacific.
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Colin Cowherd
Available@Public.Com Disclosures in sports and in life, timing is everything. You can have the right talent, the right mindset, even the right team. But if you don't act at the right moment, the opportunity slips away. That's true on the field and it's true when it comes to your health. If you or someone you care about is facing metastatic prostate cancer, there's a treatment called plavicto lutetium LU 177 vapivotide tetraxitan it's not chemotherapy. It works differently by targeting PSMA positive cells, including prostate cancer cells. Pluvicto is a prescription treatment used to treat adults with prostate specific membrane antigen positive metastatic castration resistant prostate cancer or PSMA positive MCRPC who have already been treated with hormone therapy and are considered appropriate to delay chemotherapy. Pluvicto involves contact with radioactivity which may increase the risk for cancer and cause fetal harm. Patients are advised to drink plenty of fluids, urinate often, use contraception and talk to their doctor about how to reduce the risk of exposing others to radiation during and after treatment. It can also cause low levels of blood cell counts kidney problems and infertility. If you experience weakness, pale skin, shortness of breath, bleeding or bruising more easily, an infection or changes in urination, talk to your doctor. Side effects include decreased blood cell counts, tiredness, dry mouth, nausea, appetite loss, joint or back pain and constipation. Here's the bottom line. This isn't just about treatment. It's about making the most of the time. You have time to be with the people who matter, time to keep showing up for the moments that count. So if you or someone you love is in this fight, ask your doctor about Pluvicto. Because in sports and in life, the best players don't just react. They anticipate. They prepare. They act. Visit pluvicto.com to learn more. That's P L U V I c t o.com Thursday Night Football is on, and it's only on Prime Video. This week, the Buffalo Bills and Houston Texans collide in an AFC showdown. Coverage begins at 7pm Eastern with Football's Best Party TNF tonight presented by Verizon. Not a Prime member, Not a problem. Simply sign up for a 30 day free trial. It's the Bills and the Texans Thursday at 7pm Eastern, only on Prime Video. Restrictions apply. See Amazon.com Amazon prime for details. I'm Robert Smith and this is Jacob Goldstein. And we used to host a show called Planet Money.
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Brian Baldinger
And now we're back making this new.
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Colin Cowherd
Podcast called Business History about the best ideas and people and businesses in history and some of the worst people, horrible ideas and destructive companies in the history of business.
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Brian Baldinger
Having a genius idea without a need.
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Colin Cowherd
For it is nothing. It's like not having it at all. It's a very simple, elegant lesson. Make something people want. First episode How Southwest Airlines use cheap seats and free whiskey to fight its way into the airline business. The most Texas story ever. There's a lot of mavericks in that story. We're gonna have mavericks on the show. We have plenty of robber barons. So many robber barons. And you know what? They're not all bad.
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Brian Baldinger
And we'll talk about some of the.
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Colin Cowherd
Classic great moments of famous business geniuses, along with some of the darker moments that often get overlooked, like Thomas Edison and the electric chair. Listen to business history on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. So it's always an interesting time of the year. James Franklin's getting that Virginia Tech job. Did he officially get it? So I'm not Did he officially get it? He officially got it. So that was an easy one. He got Fired. He was looking for work. And, you know, the advantage for James Franklin and his agent, he was the first big name out there ready to grab a job. Lane Kiffin's in a weird spot because everybody's coming after him. Better jobs than Ole Miss, Florida, certainly lsu, probably. But what the game that gets played here, and it's been played my entire life, is there's two or three major agents. One of them is Jimmy Sexton. And most of these top coaches, like a Sark or Elaine Kiffin, most of them have like. Like a Jimmy Sexton. And so Jimmy Sexton does the work for you. You can deny that you've taken a call. So Elaine Kiffin can say, I haven't talked to anybody. He hasn't. He's talked to Jimmy Sexton. Jimmy Sexton does all the work behind the scenes. Same with Sarko. So if I was Lane Kiffin, I would stay at Ole Miss or go NFL. Sark today got perturbed with all the reporters talking about, well, is he even go? Is he? I don't know why Sark would leave. This is a great job. I mean. I mean, you know, I. I think NFL jobs are better than college jobs, but there was a couple of them. Like. Like Texas. I would take Texas now over. Honestly, over the jets or Giants. Those are messes. Over. Over the Saints, over the Titans. I would take Texas over those jobs. I would take Ohio State over those jobs. But Stark today, earlier on reports he could leave Texas. People reporting or insinuating that there's a possibility I could leave the University of Texas. And that is absolutely false and untrue. I'm not going anywhere. So moving forward, when some Joe Blow decides to put something on social media out there, we all don't run with it like it's the gospel. Can we all agree on that on this call? And if you have a question about my future with the University of Texas, ask me on one of these calls. Ask Crystal Connie. He'll be more than happy to take your call so that we can set the record straight, so that we can focus on our football team, which is really what we should be doing. Yeah, I don't. I don't think. And I also think the NIL has changed the landscape. So, you know, everybody was talking about Lincoln Riley. Well, they just built $300 million facilities at USC. They're paying 20 million a year for nil, and they're paying Lincoln 75 million. If they had to fire him, well, they'd have to pay another 80 to get another coach like These schools are don't, don't have venture capital money. All right, they, maybe they'd have to go get it. But I mean I, you're paying players now like the top recruits make a million bucks. Quarterbacks make three or four. So now I think Lane Kiffin, my, my feeling on Lane is that Ole Miss has a ceiling. He can always get quarterbacks, receivers and Ole Miss offensive players will follow the coach. Lane will always have good offensive players, defensive players, and I've been told this by coaches usually go to the big dog schools. They want to go to Ohio State, a Michigan, a Notre Dame, an lsu, a Georgia. They don't necessarily follow a coach. They, they want to go to the big traditional powers, offensive guys, you know, you recruit them, you put them on the whiteboard, tell a receiver, I'm going to give you 12 targets as a freshman and you're going to make nine catches. I'm going to drop the plays for you. Offensive guys will follow a coach. So Lane's concern at Ole Miss I would guess is I'm never going to have a Georgia defense. I'm never going to get that kind of defense here. My offenses will carve up anybody. My offense is. When I was at Alabama, I was carving up Knicks defenses at practice. But I'll never have an elite defense. I'll always have to be kind of one dimensional offense driven to win. And I think Lane, probably my, my gut feeling is, is considering NFL or Florida, I don't think he'd go to lsu. So now Joel Clatt thinks Lane's already made up his mind. I think they're out. You know, there was this conversation like, well, maybe at 9 and 3 Texas, because one of those losses is at Ohio State. Maybe they could back their way into the playoff. No, that's the wrong one. Here is Joel Klatt talking about Lane Kiffin. He thinks he's going to leave Ole Miss. If he wanted to stay, he would stay and we would have already known it. Look at all the other coaches around the country that have said they're staying or signed extensions. And Ole Miss I know has told him money is not a factor here. Whatever you get offered, we will match it. So it's not that he's going to make more somewhere else, which is starting to lead me to believe. And again I, I will fully own. I have been all over the map on, on this and Lane, but Lane is a unique cat. Now. I don't know if he can come back to Ole Miss. You can't lead him on for this long. And now there's going to start to be animus like, why aren't you signing an extension? What's the problem? And I think he's going to Florida. I think he can go back to Ole Miss. The one of the kind of narratives that's out there, and I hear this for a lot of coaches like Lane Kiffin or Sark or all these coaches, is, well, I mean, he can be a legend at Ole Miss. Well, he's not from Mississippi. Being a legend is not, I mean, all the young, aggressive, smart people I've ever met in any business, it could be education, tech, sports, casting, coaching. None of them ever, ever talk about, you know, my dream is to be a legend at Blank. They want to get paid. They want to be at a place they can compete against the best. And if you're an Ole Miss, you're never going to get consistent recruiting classes like Georgia and Ohio State. I don't think Lane Kiffin wakes up thinking, hey, I want to be the greatest Ole Miss coach of all time. What's the value of that? That doesn't mean you're a national champion. I think Lane wants to hoist a trophy. I think Sark wants to hoist a trophy. That's why you can hoist a trophy at Texas. I think it's very difficult at Ole Miss. And people, wow, he can be, he can be a legend in Oxford. I don't think young coaches care about legend. I think Sean McVay is not looking to be a legend. He wants to win another super bowl this year in Matt Stafford's last year, or second to last year. I that whenever I hear that, oh, you could be, you can be a legend in Portland, Oregon, or Oxford, Mississippi or tcu. I never hear anybody talk like that. No, I, I, I, I never hear that. I, I hear people want a place where their family's happy and they think they can win a national championship. And I think Ole Miss is very hard to do it there. I think there are seven or eight college football programs. It is just simply easier to win a Natty. And I'll write them down. Ohio State, Georgia, Texas, University of Florida, lsu, although they're taking crazy pills now. Ohio State, Georgia, Texas, Florida, lsu. I don't think Michigan's that easy. I think Michigan is a great academic institution and it's it. I, Harbaugh took a long time to build a roster that could compete with Georgia. I wouldn't put Michigan in that class. Ohio State, Georgia, Texas, Florida, lsu. A lot of people would put USC in That class, they're somewhere between. It's like, I'll give you an example. Oregon. Oregon has the money to be a national champion. They can go buy players, but they're in a state with no high school players. So you have to, you have to convince kids to go to rainy weather or you can just go buy them. That's not as easy as Texas, which doesn't have to convince kids. It turns kids down. So does Georgia. It's always been an advantage. Florida, Louisiana, Georgia. To be in a state where you don't have to convince kids they grow up wanting to be a Buckeye or a Longhorn or a Georgia Bulldog or play for the Crimson Tide or be a Trojan. Most kids that grow up in Southern California want to play for usc. That they just do now. Oregon pays them more. Oregon's cooler and sexier and the facilities. But there are about five or six programs, I guess probably Alabama is one of those. Although in the nil. I'm not sure Bama is. I'm not sure Bama is. I think in the nil. When money becomes a factor. Ohio State, Georgia, Texas, Florida, lsu, Notre Dame, Bama, Alabama does not have big nil money. Notre Dame is an academic power and it's, you know, let's be honest about it. South Bend, Indiana, the most fun you can have is the first plane leaving. So let's be honest about that. I mean, let's be honest about South Bend. Marcus Freeman can sell it, but it's, you know, it's, it's, you know, it's a small town that it takes a while to get out of there. So I think Notre Dame, Bama can win titles, but I don't think it's as easy as it is at Georgia, Texas and Ohio State. Oklahoma again, the state doesn't have a lot of five star recruits. It's. It used to 20 years ago. It doesn't as much. I think Oklahoma is in that. Usc, Oklahoma, Notre Dame, Bama, you can win them. Oregon. But I, I think, I mean I, I don't think there's many schools that are like built to win back to back. Natties, Ohio State, Georgia, Texas, Florida and crazy town lsu probably that would be my top five. And then it's usc, Oklahoma at Bama, Notre Dame, Penn State, Clemson, you can win them. But there's, there's some stuff now, I mean Clemson could be in that list, but they don't want to play the nil game. So. Okay then, then you've made conditions there. And so Sark leaving one of when you get those four or five jobs, those to me are better than the bottom three NFL jobs. I didn't used to think that, but the NFL now is so quarterback centric, so quarterback reliant. And college football gives you one great quarterback a year, maybe one and a half. So it's just. And when you get them, you got to keep them healthy. Like the Chargers, they're struggling to do that with Justin Herbert. Just keep him on his feet. So there is. It's, let's say the NFL gives you two quarterbacks a year. Go look at the NFL right now. There's like nine teams desperate for a quarterback. This draft has one sure fire, everybody likes him guy. And if Dante Moore stays at college, it's one. And it's not Ty Simpson. The guys I talk to do not think he's a high top eight, nine pick. So there you go. All right. Kiffin, by the way, denying reports that old miss has given him an ultimatum. I what they've done is we'd like an answer, you know, week of the egg bowl, which is the Mississippi State game. That, that's not an ultimatum. They've, they've said, hey, listen, we want an answer pretty quick. Pretty quick is not an ultimatum. You know, sometimes you got to put a ring on it. I mean, there was a song written about that. You gotta put a ring on it eventually. You know, you can push that down the road for the next weekend. All right, J. Mac, good job today, everybody. Brian Baldinger, Joel Klatt bringing it.
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Sophie Cunningham
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Colin Cowherd
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Brian Baldinger
Dr. Jesse Mills here.
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Colin Cowherd
I'm the director of the men's clinic.
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Brian Baldinger
At UCLA and I want to tell you about my new podcast called the Mailroom. And I'm Jordan, the show's producer. And like most guys, I haven't been.
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Colin Cowherd
Health, from testosterone and fitness to diets and fertility. We'll talk science without the jargon and get you real answers to the stuff.
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Brian Baldinger
You actually wonder about. So check out the mailroom on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your favorite shows.
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Colin Cowherd
On an all new episode of iHeartRadio's Las Culturistas, Emmy, Golden Globe and Tony Award winner Sarah Paulson spills on red carpet hacks.
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Sports Analyst (possibly a co-host or guest)
We saw these pictures and we were like, what is the story with this?
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Colin Cowherd
She gets real about the inspiration behind her roles.
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Sports Analyst (possibly a co-host or guest)
Oh no, there is no end to.
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Brian Baldinger
How people will behave.
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Colin Cowherd
And she puts hosts Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang on notice. I don't think so, honey.
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Sports Analyst (possibly a co-host or guest)
I feel very, very triggered by this.
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Colin Cowherd
Open your free I Heart Radio app, search Las Culturistas and listen to the full podcast Now. What up y'?
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Colin Cowherd
It's your boy Kev onstage. I want to tell you about my new podcast called Not My Best, where I talk to artists, athletes, entertainers, creators, friends, people I admire who've had massive success about their massive failures. What did they mess up on? What is their heartbreak and what did they learn from it?
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Sports Analyst (possibly a co-host or guest)
I got judged horribly.
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Colin Cowherd
The judges were like, you're trash. I don't know how you got on the show. Check out Not My Best Moment with Me, Kev OnStage on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, YouTube, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Sophie Cunningham
This is an iHeart podcast.