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Colin Cowherd
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J. Mac
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Colin Cowherd
Daniel Jeremiah works at the NFL Network. He's got a podcast. It's a good one. Move the sticks. His 24th NFL combine coming up. Somebody we rely on and trust as the NFL season ends. You know, it's interesting, Daniel, you know this. A lot of times the free agent market can be initiated and propelled because there are weaknesses in the draft. So it's, it's obviously if you look, I mean there's some really good edge rushers. It's a pretty good, pretty good D line draft. I think in the first round at least there's some nice offensive tackles, a couple of Utah maybe. Where is the draft lacking in your opinion, which will increase the activity in free agency in March?
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Daniel Jeremiah
Well, I would give you two positions, Colin. First of all, the running back position. Draft wise, I think we have one first round caliber back and then I think there's a chance we don't see one even go in the second round and we'll see a flurry of them there after at that point. So I think there's a really good crop of free agent running backs which is going to, you know, inform maybe some franchise tag opportunities for teams or teams are going to be aggressive and going out and paying some of these young veterans that are on the market. And then the obvious elephant in the room is the quarterback. I mean there's, there's one for sure quarterback who everybody believes, myself included goes one, one. And then there's a conversation on Ty Simpson and where does he fit into this whole thing. But when you have one and a half first round caliber quarterbacks and there's a lot of teams out there that have a need at the position, it's good to be the Malik Willis's. It's good to be the Niners holding on to Mac Jones to see what, what comes their way as well.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah. So let's get to two evals. I like Fernando Minoza kind of more than everybody else does. I don't think he's Andrew Luck or Sam Darnold athleticism, but I think I, we were, the staff showed me something this morning. Tom Tesco, our friend said, yeah, Matt Ryan, I think he's bigger, stronger or more athletic than Matt Ryan, although I think that's a good comp. I think he is a, if he gets decent coaching, he is a plus player. He's a franchise guy. I'll make a couple pro Bowls Maybe several, three or four. Is that. I mean, I think he's big, accurate. He's been bloodied his lip multiple times. He's. Some say the Indiana offense is too simplistic. Maybe they need. What do you see?
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Daniel Jeremiah
Well, yeah, I talked to Tom and I actually, I told him I was going to steal some of that with, with Matt Ryan, because I do like that just in terms of kind of the grittiness, toughness, you know, aspect of it. I look at quarterbacks almost in terms of families as opposed to just like that single comp. I think if you had kind of that Jared Goff, Matt Ryan family, he kind of fits into that family. Whether or not, whether or not he's a brother or a cousin, I'll let everybody else figure that out. But that's kind of the, the style of quarterback that he is. And for the evaluation part of it, look column, when you go through and you watch third and seven plus throws, which weeds out all the RPOs that everybody, you know, complains about. When you go look at him in the red zone, when you go look at him in big games, when you look at him on big moments, see the end of the Penn State game, see the championship game, this guy stepped up and done it every single time. So I'm a huge believer in him. And I would also say for as much grief as everybody has all this, this problem with the transfer portal, what the transfer portal has done for the evaluation process. We've seen Bo Nicks with inferior players at Auburn. Then go play with good players at Oregon and look at the play and look what you get there. We saw Cam Ward, who was an incarnate word to Washington State. All of a sudden he gets with Miami and look what he does with real players. Now we're seeing with Mendoza, who is a good player at Cal, but he gets a great coach and a great infrastructure and the guy goes undefeated, wins the Heisman Trophy in the national championship.
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Colin Cowherd
So I thought Jackson Dart was more of a top of the second round guy. He went in the first and had a good year. I was wrong. I think Ty Simpson feels like a top of the second round guy, but I could see the Rams taking him. They got two first. How do you evaluate Ty Simpson at Bama?
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Daniel Jeremiah
Yeah, he's my 40th player, you know, as we are in the process right now, which I wouldn't look, if somebody wants to take him with the 25th pick, that's not that out of realm of possibility. And I would think that's not really a Reach. Based off how I evaluated him, I don't think he's one of those quarterbacks you drop into any of the 32 rooms and he's going to have success. You know, any system, any supporting cast. I do think you need to protect him. He's mechanically sound, he throws a nice ball, he's got touch and accuracy. But when bodies get around him, I thought there's times he plays a little small and then the Guy's only started 15 games and he's been beat up. So those are the negative sides of it. That's why I kind of slot him outside my top 32. But if you're the Rams, you got a great offensive line. He doesn't have to step in and play right away. So that lack of experience, we can kind of give you some of that in our system before we needed you to play. I could, you know, I can understand that.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah. Let's go back. This is always fun. Sam Darnold, go back online. Tell me what your evaluation was.
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Daniel Jeremiah
Well, it used to be hidden underneath my bed for a couple of years. Colin. When my report, now it hangs up next to my diploma on the wall. I'm going to have it engraved. But no, look, he was my top quarterback in that draft class and I was actually talking about him the year before because he has that Rose bowl game against Saquon, Barkley and Penn State and that epic comeback. He makes some big time throws in that game. And I had mentioned at the combine before he was draft eligible. Like this is the guy everybody's talking about is next year's quarterback, you know, and Sam Darnold, because of, you know, just kind of the, the natural way he plays the game, the ball explodes out of his hand. He's just a real, he's just a real fluid, natural athlete who's got an explosive arm and he went to a tough situation and you know, I, I do. You know, look, I am so happy for him because he's such a good dude and I have always believed in the ability to. But I don't agree with the. Well, you know, the jets, they should have just stayed there. Eventually would have happened. I think he needed to get out of New York. Yeah, I think he needed to get somewhere else. I think that was good for him. And I think being around Shanahan that time there was, was an incredibly smart decision on his part. Knowing that, look, I'm going to soak up everything this guy has. Not only is it going to help me learn football, but then there's also the reality that this is the offensive system, that half the league runs because they all come from underneath his tree. So for him to have the maturity to take a step back and learn that, I thought that, that that's one of the reasons why he is where he is.
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Colin Cowherd
You know how good John Snyder is. And I was just wondering. This popped into my head when you look at the Seahawks. He's gone like eight for his last eight or nine for his last nine. On first and second round guys, like, not only does it miss, like, they all become really good, some become incredibly special. And I think that the safety from South Carolina, people said right after the draft, that's, that guy's going to be a star, that that's one of the easier second round guys. Does he have a theme? I mean, why is he such a good drafter? You've been doing this. Is there something he does that other GMs don't do? I mean, we're putting it up now, I'm sorry, to the radio audience. We're putting it on television. It's like, just no misses. Like, like, you tell me what, what's his secret to this stuff?
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Daniel Jeremiah
Well, he lets the draft fall to him. You know, for one, like Eamon Warrior, I think, was my 15th or 16th overall player. I'm not saying everybody has it the same, but this guy was a first round talent who just kind of fell to him. So he, he took him there. But when you start looking at guys who, when we, when I was in Baltimore, we had a Red Star meeting where you would go through and each scout could put a red star on one player in the draft. Didn't necessarily mean they were the best player, but they were the guy that was just the most competitive. We talked like he played like a Raven, like he fit us. And when you look through like jsn, ultra competitive, tough, physical, gray zable, you go to the Senior bowl, he took 9 million reps. Everybody was trying to go against him and he slaughtered everybody. Like, super, super competitive, on and on and on. Kenneth Walker uplifted that entire Michigan State program on his shoulders. Like, these guys are all. Guys are passionate, love football and there's no turds, there's no jerks, there's no selfishness in that group. They're all good dudes. Good competitive dudes. That, that to me, is the overall theme.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah, it's. I want to, I want to ask you about the Chargers because you work on their broadcast and we said, I said, you lose Jesse Minter, your defense, probably not quite as Good. You gain Mike McDaniel, you'll be a much more effective passing offense. Plus you get your tackles back. Plus the Chargers have cap space. I mean, this is conjecture and projecting, but J. Mack and I agree on one thing. Next year is that the Chargers will go from a team that was surviving on offense and flourishing on defense to. Or the offense could be spectacular next year. And the defense may. I mean, Minter was a really, really good defensive coordinator. You tell me, with the Chargers, with that camp space and Mike McDaniel, what do you think they'll target in the draft and what will they look like next year? Because we both believe week one you're going to watch the Chargers and go, okay, this is the Harbaugh Herbert thing that we thought we'd get this year.
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Daniel Jeremiah
Well, Colin, I think when you look at free agency, I could see them targeting interior offensive line. When you look at the draft, I could see them targeting interior offensive line. When you look at the trade market, we could also target the interior of the offensive line. When the draft's over and you want to bring in some extra bodies, we'll bring in some more interior offensive linemen. So, I mean, that is, that is, that is priority A, B and C. And it's providing overall depth of that offensive line having, investing in a third tackle that you really, really like so that you're not, you're covered. I think if they, if they have an offensive line that's healthy and deep because the tackles are two of the best in football. So just healthy and deep along the interior. Having a third tackle out there that can withstand some injuries. All these young guys, these skill guys on offense, these first and second year players that they've drafted with Joe Ortiz, they're awesome. Like McConkey, I think you'll see him go to another level in this system. Quentin Johnson, you know, for all the abuse he caught for, you know, some of the drops early on, is a functional, solid player. Yes. Trey Harris, the rookie at Ole Miss, made some big catches around. Gadsden is a talented rookie tight end. Omarion Hampton could be one of the top five backs in the league. These guys are all on rookie contracts. They cost you nothing. So to me, it's really about just getting this offensive line locked in. And then defensively you've got young corners. Derwin still playing at an elite level. You've got to sign. You know, you got some free agents on the edge with Away and Mack, but they have plenty of space to do that. Maybe a defensive tackle, you know, or two. And Free agency or the draft. But I don't know if I mentioned it, Colin, I would probably address the interior of the offensive line.
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Colin Cowherd
Absolutely. And finally, just because somebody gets drafted, number one, doesn't mean they're the best player. It's usually a quarterback because it's a quarterback starved league. Is there a best player in the draft? Like, everybody talks Arval Reese and my take is, well, the position he'll play in the NFL may not be quite what he's doing now. He's going to get bigger. It could be edge. I look at Bain at Miami and I'm like, oh, that's fully formed. That guy's going to walk in and play. I think actually Miami's got an offensive lineman that feels like you could put him at guard tackle. Like that dude's going to start day one. I think that running back from Notre Dame looks like that. Like, oh, that guy's going to pop. Is there a guy. If you just said best player can't miss because all quarterbacks can miss, even the good ones. Who's the can't miss in the draft?
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Daniel Jeremiah
Well, I mean, I'd have love up there, you know, the running back from Notre Dame. I still, you know, normally I am true to the grade. So even if, you know, I know Cam Ward's going to be the first pick, he might be my fourth or fifth player in the draft. So that's, you know, it's, it's rare that you kind of have the quarterback. It just in this draft because, you know, there's flaws in all of these guys. You know, Bain's not the prototypical, you know, you know, arm length and all the other stuff that comes along with that, that you can poke holes in all of them. To me, Mendoza, I'm like, he's one of the years where I think he is the best player in the draft in my opinion. And I do think he is one of the safer picks in this year's draft. That's just kind of the way I look at it. I, I don't know. I think you got to get really, really nitpicky to, to poke holes in him. I think he's got a chance to be a really good player and that's why I have him as my number one guy.
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Colin Cowherd
Okay, so it's Fernando Mendoza. Daniel, how does he compare to Drake May? Is he in that class? Drake May is more athletic. I mean, he's a better mover. But are they kind of close?
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Daniel Jeremiah
I would have those three guys from that draft, just grade wise, come into the process over him. So I had it. Caleb Drake, Jaden Daniels, all three of those guys would carry a higher grade than Mendoza. But in this draft class, there's nobody else that I would put, you know, up there at other positions higher than the level that he's at. I don't think he's as natural as Drake. Drake just was so athletic and I mean, and just had just such a good feel for, for movement and getting around things and making things happen. I don't think he's quite, I think he's a little more robotic is the way I would describe Mendoza.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah, that's fair. That's fair. Great seeing you as always, my man.
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Daniel Jeremiah
Good to see you, buddy. Hey, the Dodgers haven't spent any more money in the last five minutes, so there's that.
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Colin Cowherd
Listen, this is a, this is a pro Dodger show, I'll tell you.
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Daniel Jeremiah
Gross. Gross.
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Colin Cowherd
Daniel, Jeremiah, you know, listen, the scrappy, upstart Dodgers, the grit you see, the determination, the hard scrabble attitude. Very endearing.
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J. Mac
Be sure to catch live editions of the Herd, weekdays at noon Eastern, 9am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio FS1 and the iHeartradio app.
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Jason Smith / Stugotz
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J. Mac
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Daniel Jeremiah
It's one of my favorites.
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Jason Smith / Stugotz
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Jacob Goldstein
The Volkswagen Beetle started out as Hitler's dream car. It wound up as a beloved hippie icon and the best selling car of all time.
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J. Mac
How did that happen?
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Jacob Goldstein
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Jason Smith / Stugotz
And I'm Robert Smith. On business history, we tell the surprising stories behind the inventions and entrepreneurs that shaped our economy.
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Jacob Goldstein
And the story of the Beatle is truly surprising. It has so much in it. It has Nazis. It has the German economic miracle.
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Jason Smith / Stugotz
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Jacob Goldstein
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Jason Smith / Stugotz
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Jacob Goldstein
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Jason Smith / Stugotz
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Colin Cowherd
And the winner of the iHeart podcast award is.
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J. Mac
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J. Mac
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J. Mac
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Podcast Announcer
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Jason Smith / Stugotz
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Colin Cowherd
Find out if this guy's guilty or innocent. Who does that?
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Podcast Announcer
Valley of Shadows, a new series from Pushkin Industries about crime and corruption in California's high desert. Do you have any advice for us while looking into this disappearance?
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Colin Cowherd
I wouldn't do it alone.
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Podcast Announcer
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Daniel Jeremiah
Segregation in the day, Integration at night.
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Podcast Announcer
When segregation was the law, one mysterious black club owner had his own rules. We didn't worry about what was going on outside.
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Daniel Jeremiah
It was like stepping in another world.
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Podcast Announcer
Inside Charlie's place, black and white people danced together. But not everyone was happy about it. You saw the kkk.
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J. Mac
Yeah.
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Colin Cowherd
They were dressed up in their uniform.
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J. Mac
The KKK set out to raid Charlie, take him away from here.
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Colin Cowherd
Charlie was an example of power. They had to crush him.
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Podcast Announcer
From Atlas Obscura, Rococo Punch and visit Myrtle beach comes Charlie's place, a story that was nearly lost to time. Until now. Listen to Charlie's place on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. You can accomplish a lot in a decade. You could earn a bachelor's degree and a master's degree back to back. You could compete in two separate consecutive Olympic Games. Well, we made my favorite murder. It's been 10 years of true crime, 10 years of conversation, and 100 years of swearing. Here's the thing, everyone. Politeness. Go F yourself as someone sneezes. From now on, we have something for everyone. Advice, support, and a safe space for your feelings. This is terrible. Keep going. Triflers need not apply. Stay out of the forest. You're in a cult. Call your dad. Don't worry, it gets worse. Toxic masculinity ruins the party again. I said, dad, what the hell? What do we. What are we gonna do? And he goes, I don't. What the hell? I don't know. We're gonna sally forth. Sally. We're sally forth. You guys stay sexy. Don't get murdered. Elvis, do you want a cookie? A cookie? Listen to my favorite murder on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Colin Cowherd
Goodbye, J. Mac with the news.
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J. Mac
No, no, turn on the news. This is the Herdline news.
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Colin Cowherd
By the way, you're off tomorrow, J. Mac. So you have your herd. You have your. Don't you have your tomorrow's headlines today? In about 15, 20 minutes, we're going to do that.
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J. Mac
Yes, sir.
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Colin Cowherd
All right, great.
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J. Mac
Thanks for announcing that to the audience. Now my family is going to be like, call me tomorrow. Let's do stuff. I wanted a kind of a day off anyways. Let's go to Josh Allen, the Buffalo Bills. Colin. Interesting off season ahead for a team that kind of, you know, maybe should have won that game in Denver, but there's a lot of roster questions ahead. How about this? Albert Breer believes Buffalo should target a wide receiver in free agency. And the two names Breer mentioned are Rashid Shahid from the super bowl champs and Alex Pierce from the Indianapolis Colts. Pierce is gonna get paid for sure. Somewhere, maybe overpaid. Where are you on Shahid or Pierce? Are they like Pierce? I don't. I. I feel like they're threes. They're not necessarily.
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Colin Cowherd
No, I think Pierce is. I think Pierce is a 2. I would go after Pierce because I think you can get 65 to 75 catches with Pierce. Rasheed Shahid is a luxury player for the Seahawks because they had a number one. I don't think I. He's not a volume guy. He is a pop guy where he pops a kick return. You get him down the sideline. Alec Pierce is a good player. Chris Ballard found him. I think he was Cincinnati went to Indy. Good, good player. I like Alec Pierce. That, that would be a. A really solid number two. They've already got the slot kid at Buffalo. And I mean, who knows? I mean, Keon Coleman may develop. Quentin Johnson just developed for the Chargers. He developed. So my case, what if, what if Coleman develops into a. A good solid number two next to Pierce, who's a good, solid two slot guys, a three. You got James Cook, excellent tight ends. Maybe you solve your issue. I don't. I think Alec Pierce a good player.
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J. Mac
Buffalo clearly needs a wide receiver in free agency and hell, maybe the draft, too. Maybe the draft as well. All right, let's move on to the Cleveland Browns. Colin. The factory of sadness in Cleveland. It is really bleak there, but they just hired Todd Monken to replace Kevin Stefanski. Browns president Dave Jenkins, are you ready for this?
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah.
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J. Mac
He thinks people are kicking the Browns while they're down, but listen to the whole thing.
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Daniel Jeremiah
Look, I think we're really easy to pick on right now because we haven't been successful, we haven't established a consistent run of success. But like any business, any industry, the more data and information we can have accessible to inform our decision making, we should be more successful. You've got to find experts that know roster development, that know player development from a coaching perspective, and you've got to let them operate. The culture can come from the top of the organization, from the owner and the ethos of what you want to be. But I think you've got to find great people to build that roster to, to coach that roster, to drive the end result.
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Colin Cowherd
Well, it. He says it's easy to pick on us. Well, yeah, There's a reason it's not easy to pick on the Seahawks or the Rams or the Niners. They make mistakes at coach and quarterback repeatedly. So this is not the market being out of touch. This is the Browns being poorly run.
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J. Mac
Yeah. Their last division title was 1989. I mean, I don't even know how to put that in perspective. I think I was in elementary School, 1989. I don't. You were probably what, Florida? Vegas? I don't even know. That is an eternity. Of course people are going to make fun of the Browns. You want to make fun of any team in the league. Obviously you make fun of the jets because I'm on the show. But if a guy was a Cleveland Browns fan, Sitting here, you'd be knocking those guys all the time. They are arguably the worst run franchise in American professional sports, are they not?
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah, I think so. Yeah. I mean, I would say the jets, the Cleveland Browns. Yeah, it stops right about there. Yeah.
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J. Mac
Yeah, that's the bottom of the barrel. All right, final. Let's go to the NBA. Colin. Obviously All Star weekend is ahead, which has everybody very exciting. But first, I got to ask about James Harden. I'm very excited about what Harden and Donovan Mitchell can do in the backcourt. So against the wizards, he had 11 assists, only took four shots. Look at that. Behind the back dime.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah.
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J. Mac
I mean, that is gorgeous. I'm kind of a James Harden fan. However, he used the L word here, and I think you're going to be extremely interested in it. This is sixth team and here's what he said about loyalty.
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James Harden
There's basketball and the whole quote unquote loyalty thing is. I think it's overrated. You know, I think this is a business at the end of the day, and it's a lot of money involved and a lot of decisions that has to be made. If a player isn't producing or if you don't see him future or, you know, front office, some of them have to do like a job and want to keep their job, you know, so they got to feel like they got to do what's best for, you know, to keep their job. And they trade players or if a guy isn't happy and he wants to be traded to somewhere else and it's a problem, not even just NBA, but like people that have normal jobs have, you know, have those same problems. It's just not magnified.
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Colin Cowherd
I tend to agree with him. Yes, I tend to agree basketball's always been a little transient, a little transactional. And yeah, I mean, listen, James Harden's a Hall of Famer. I, I don't think he's necessarily a winning player. He would push back on that. But I mean, he's been given like seven opportunities with great teammates and it always flames out. So I think, I think what you think of Harden is fair. I do think he's a better. I think j. Did they show this pass? I always think James, he's got really good hands. He's. He can be a really good distributor if he wants to. He's super skilled. I mean, there's, there's no doubting he is a all time great offensive player, but he doesn't. You know, I'm always like, if you don't care on the defensive End, it's like, I'm critical of Luka or Carmelo. I know they're hall of Famers, but when you don't care as a star on the defensive end, I think it leaks and bleeds through the organization.
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J. Mac
I mean, you say he's not a winning player and that's. I would just say in the postseason he has had a lot of flops. Who cares? In the regular season, he's amazing. That's like Philip Rivers career. Philip Rivers in the regular season was lights out. What do you do in the playoffs? Like, again, like, James Harden led the league in scoring assists. Like, he's a really good player.
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Colin Cowherd
I'm not. I'm not doubting that he's an excellent player.
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J. Mac
So, like, this is his sixth franchise, right? And all these people are like, oh, he's played for six different teams. Colin, how many jobs have you had, by the way, in your career? Because we know the NBA careers, maybe 15 years, maybe 17. I mean, I've had more than six jobs you've had. Why are people pit nitpicking Harden about this?
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Colin Cowherd
Well, I mean, generally a basketball career is 15 years. Mine's going to be 45. So if you have. It's all relative. I mean, I think if you have an NBA career, you become what I often call on the show a bounce around the league guy. And Steph Curry doesn't bounce around the league because Golden State's never letting him go. LeBron bounced around on his terms, but people have been worn out by James, and relative to how gifted he is, he shouldn't have bounced around that much. He's what you'd hope if he played defense, he wouldn't be bound. He wouldn't have left Houston. That's where he would have stayed.
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J. Mac
Well, again, in the history of the league, a lot of guys have been bounced around the league. Guys, I mean, hell, other than like Michael Jordan, Magic Johnson, Larry, there's a handful of guys who only played for one franchise. You know, the stars, they tend to. I mean, Patrick Ewing, Akeem Olajo, a lot of these guys didn't end where they were major stars. So I don't know. I can't believe I'm defending James Harden here. Maybe I'm trying to get an invite to his next birthday party at one of these jiggle joints that he goes to, but.
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Colin Cowherd
Sounds like J. Mac with the news.
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J. Mac
Well, that's the news, and thanks for stopping by the Herd line.
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Colin Cowherd
We get tomorrow's headlines today.
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J. Mac
Be sure to catch live editions of the Herd weekdays at noon Eastern, 9am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. FS1 and the iHeartRadio app the Volkswagen.
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Jacob Goldstein
Beetle started out as Hitler's dream car. It wound up as a beloved hippie icon and the best selling car of all time.
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J. Mac
How did that happen?
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Jacob Goldstein
I'm Jacob Goldstein.
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And I'm Robert Smith. On business history, we tell the surprising stories behind the inventions and entrepreneurs that shaped our economy.
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Jacob Goldstein
And the story of the Beetle is truly surprising. It has so much in it. It has Nazis, it has the German economic miracle.
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Jason Smith / Stugotz
And it features one of the most famous ads of all time, an ad that really redefined what advertising was in the United States.
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Jacob Goldstein
The calculation was that there was some number of Americans who were ready for something different, who were ready for something that was counter to the culture. If you will. Perfect timing in the decade of the 1960s.
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Jason Smith / Stugotz
Listen to Business History on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts and watch episodes on YouTube.
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Daniel Jeremiah
Segregation in the day, integration at night.
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Podcast Announcer
When segregation was the law, one mysterious black club owner had his own rules. We didn't worry about what went on outside.
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Daniel Jeremiah
It was like stepping in another world.
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Podcast Announcer
Inside Charlie's Place, black and white people danced together. But not everyone was happy about it. You saw the kkk.
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J. Mac
Yeah, they was dressed up in their uniform. The KKK set out to raid Charlie, take him away from here.
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Colin Cowherd
Charlie was an example of power. They had to crush him.
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Podcast Announcer
From Atlas Obscura, Rococo Punch and visit Myrtle beach comes Charlie's Place, a story that was nearly lost to time. Until now. Listen to Charlie's place on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast.
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Colin Cowherd
And the winner of the iHeart Podcast Award is.
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J. Mac
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J. Mac
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June 11, 1998, a deputy from the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department went missing. It's an all out manhunt for John Ajay. Every search and rescue team in LA county has been called in to help. Within days, tips started flooding into the sheriff's department.
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J. Mac
They ruler around the drug scene. Was that A deputy was taken care of.
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Podcast Announcer
Is this the story of a man who just got lost in the desert? Or of a cover up inside the nation's largest sheriff's department?
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Jason Smith / Stugotz
A homicide captain saying, detective, do not.
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Colin Cowherd
Find out if this guy's guilty or innocent. Who does that?
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Podcast Announcer
Valley of Shadows, a new series from Pushkin Industries about crime and corruption in California's high desert. Do you have any advice for us while looking into this disappearance?
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Colin Cowherd
I wouldn't do it alone.
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Podcast Announcer
Listen to Valley of shadows on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This season on Dear Chelsea, with me, Chelsea Handler. We've got some incredible guests like Kumail Nanjiani. Let's start with your cat. How is she?
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Colin Cowherd
She is not with us anymore.
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Podcast Announcer
Okay, great, great, great way to start. So this is a great beginning and hopefully you'll be able to, I don't know, maybe you will cry. Amanda Seyfried. Life is so short. If you feel something like that, you have that fire in you for this experience. It's not for a guy. It's for the experience of being in love. And like, it's bigger than a guy. Elizabeth Olsen. I love swimming naked so much. And I know you love taking pictures of yourself. I love to be naked. I just want to be in my bra and underwear all the time. Ross Matthews.
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J. Mac
You know what kids always say to me?
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Podcast Announcer
Are you a boy or a girl?
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J. Mac
Oh, my God. All the time. I know. So I'm always like, hi. I try to butch it up for kids, you know, so they're not confused.
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Podcast Announcer
Yeah, but you're butching it up. It's basically like an angry woman. Doris Day, right?
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J. Mac
No, I turn into Bea Arthur.
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Podcast Announcer
Listen to these episodes of Dear Chelsea on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Colin Cowherd
Well, a day early, first things first. Around the corner, we get a day early version of tomorrow's headlines. Today, J. Mac, NFL season's closed out. The NBA season is heating up. Are you ready, my friend?
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J. Mac
I'm a little nervous, Colin. This is a tough, tough week. Let's say you see these tomorrow's headlines today.
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Colin Cowherd
Prediction time. What will be the headline for the Seahawks next season?
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J. Mac
Okay, so again next season, we haven't seen the draft. We got the combine. Free agency. A lot to happen. But the headline for the Seattle Seahawks next season will be Seattle got a latte. Learning to do. Okay, as of now, what are we? February 12th? Something like that. I have the Seahawks missing the playoffs next year. Now, I know you're going to fall out of your chair. But just hear me out. This Clint Kubiak situation is going to be big. Colin, again we don't know who's going to be the replacement but we just saw the impact that Ben Johnson had in Detroit. Massive drop off. Then we talked about it. Three guys in the secondary, free agents, Shahid, Kenneth Walker. Lot of question marks out there. Obviously Sam Darnold is a big one. He succeeded a lot with Kubiak. Is it going to work with the new guy? I don't know. And Colin, then we go to the old schedule. Okay, first place schedule. 10 of Seattle's 17 opponents were in the playoffs last year. Here are these road games at the Eagles, at Denver. They also have to go to Washington and Carolina. If you're keeping track at home that's three trips from Seattle to the east coast next season. At home it's not as difficult to schedule but they do face Mahomes, Herbert, the Bears Patriots like it's it. And Seattle was not a layup at home this season. They were not automatic as in years past the schedule. The offensive coordinator leaving. I think as of now they will miss the playoffs next season.
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Colin Cowherd
Okay, that's a take. Tomorrow's headlines today. How about the super bowl losers the Patriots next season.
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J. Mac
Yeah, well you know I'm down on Drake Bay Co. Given that postseason run where they got lucky and faced bad backup quarterback there at the end the headline for the New England Patriots next season will be easy. Drake Oven pats cook up another playoff appearance. I've got him in the wild card for now. I do want to see what happens in free agency. I do think they'll do enough to get into the wild card. Listen, May will regress a little bit. He ain't going to complete 72% of his passes be number one in EPA runner up MVP. That's not happening again. I think we would agree on that.
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Colin Cowherd
Right.
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J. Mac
But the continuity remains. McDaniels Vrabel. I like that. I think as you said they've got to do some upgrades. Colin, I look at these this road schedule for the Patriots and again schedules. We'll see what happens around the league at Chicago, at the Chargers, at Seattle, at Jacksonville. That's four teams that made the playoffs. They're not going to face six rookie quarterbacks like they did last year. Six last season. They want six and oh rookie quarterbacks. As of now they will face it looks like Mendoza is going to be the only rookie could be a rookie with the Jets. They may get Lucky and Quinn Ewers is an opponent. So I think, you know, they'll make the playoffs, but barely as of now.
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Colin Cowherd
Tomorrow's headlines today, Super Bowl 61. What do you see again?
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J. Mac
We're 11 months out and I got a little creative with this one. The headline for Super Bowl 61 will be the city of end zones. LA and LA stuck in super bowl traffic.
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Colin Cowherd
Interesting.
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J. Mac
Yes, I'm going. Rams, Chargers. Colin. I think the Rams are the best team in the league heading into the off season. And I think the Chargers had the biggest upgrade, adding McDaniel as their OC. You just heard Daniel Jeremiah. All they need is interior lineman. Like that's the big need. Obviously. Minter going, getting a head job and leaving is a. Is a big loss, but, but they get the best. They're great tackles back on both sides. I like the skill position, guys. I love McDaniel. I think the Chargers are like a 12 win team next year.
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Colin Cowherd
I don't think it's crazy. Rams, Chargers, we had a, we had a Mets, Yankee, subway series. I don't think it's crazy. Tomorrow's headlines today, what will be the headline for the NBA All Star Game? Can't wait for this one.
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J. Mac
Yeah, I know you're fired up. I could tell. Very locked in on this one. It's tough because there's like the world, there's the old guys, the young guys. Everybody's confused. They just named de' Aaron Fox a substitute. They're like, which team is he on? We're giving a shot. The headline for the NBA All Star Game will be Shooting Stars Globe gets Trotted by Youth. I cannot believe they put Belichick and his girlfriend. That's brutal. But nicely done. I'm going with the young guys. Colin. I do believe, as Kevin Garnett or sorry, Kevin Durant articulated earlier, the Euros, they don't want to play no defense. Personally, I don't think Luke is going to play. We know Giannis will not play. Like, what effort is Jokic going to give? So I'm discounting the Euros. I actually think the young team, Anthony Edwards, Cade Cunningham, Jalen Johnson, what did we see last year in the playoffs? Colin? The young teams with young players, they got after it. They defended full court, they care. I think they take down the old guys, the old heads, as Kevin Durant called them. And I like the young guys to win the All Star Game.
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Colin Cowherd
Finally, tomorrow's headlines today give me an All Star Game mvp. J. Mac.
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J. Mac
So I went a little macro here just because I have a fun Take on this. The headline for the MVP of the NBA All Star Game will be your favorite. Aunt Edwards leaps right over Unk. Anthony Edwards is my pick for All Star Game mvp. And Colin, it's because there's something going on in Minnesota. I don't know how closely you've paid attention to what's happening, but they tried to trade everybody for Giannis a couple weeks ago, and everybody knows it. And there's some dogging going on in Minnesota. Like, they're not as locked in. Some of these guys are like, oh, you were trying to trade me. It didn't happen. Am I going to get shipped in the off season to get Giannis? And they're not putting forth the effort. Rudy Gobert's popping off. It's ugly. So my guess is Anthony Edwards senses that, and as a leader, he goes into All Star Weekend to make a statement. I can carry our guys. Come on, folks, get on my back. We can do this. And listen, Anthony Edwards is a great player. You had him as a face of the league, I think, two years ago, and I think he has a monster All Star Weekend.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah, there's some. I'll tell you this. This past draft, you know, we say this, it was really. It was remarkable. This past draft and next year's draft maybe better at the top. I don't know if there's a Cooper flag in it, but, you know, if Darren Peterson, you know, he's perfect for the NBA. He's occasionally shows up and plays. How long have you been sitting on that pivot? Right into the NBA. No, I mean, people make so much of that kid at Kansas, like, cramps, and other people play through cramps. And it's not ideal, it's not perfect, but this is not the NFL. Like, you can't go to the seventh round and find Brock Purdy. Like, you're out of players, usually by about the 14th or 15th pick. You're going to draft a kid that talented, he's going to get picked. My guest boozer is really good as well. I Peterson, my guess goes, one or two.
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J. Mac
I would agree.
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Colin Cowherd
I mean, you know, we freaked out when Christian McCaffrey skipped a sun Bowl. When you're transcendent talent, I don't care what it is, just take them, figure it out later. All right, See you tomorrow. It's the Herd.
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J. Mac
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What is something you've had to unlearn about love?
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J. Mac
That it's earned, that I was unworthy of love, that it needs to be.
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