THE HERD - Hour 3 - Tomorrow's Headlines Today, Jonathan Givony

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The Herd with Colin Cowherd

Episode: Hour 3 – Tomorrow's Headlines Today, Jonathan Givony

Date: May 29, 2026

Host: Jason Whitlock (in for Colin Cowherd) | Guest: Jonathan Givony (Founder, Draft Express)

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Episode Overview

This episode dives deep into the fast-approaching 2026 NBA Draft, breaking down the top prospects with renowned NBA draft analyst Jonathan Givony. The discussion focuses on analytics-driven perspectives, in-depth player comparisons, and how team needs and strategic considerations are shaping draft boards. The segment closes with audience-favorite “Tomorrow’s Headlines Today”—bold predictions and analysis on upcoming NBA and NFL moves, NBA Finals outcomes, and the World Cup.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Jonathan Givony on the 2026 NBA Draft Class

(03:02 – 18:34)

The Cam Boozer Debate: Should He Go First Overall?

• Whitlock introduces Givony: Notes Givony’s history of hot takes, including correctly predicting Ben Simmons was overrated ([03:30]).
• Givony on Boozer’s stock:
  • “If you talk to the analytics people in NBA front offices...one hundred percent of them have Cam Boozer at number one at the top of their draft model.” ([04:08])
  • Boozer’s elite productivity spans high school, FIBA, and a dominant freshman college season.
  • Projects him as a "20 and 10 guy" and “potentially an All-Star as a rookie”.
• Comping Boozer:
  • Not a perfect comp; likened to “a souped up Kevin Love” and stylistically closer to Jokic due to elite passing and feel, but a better defender than Paolo Banchero.
  • “Defensively off the ball he’s elite...His processing speed, his reaction time, he is a great basketball player.” ([05:24])
• Where Does Boozer Play?
  • Power forward who can also initiate offense due to his ball skills.
  • “You can play him anywhere on the floor...he can fit in any lineup alongside any type of player.” ([06:45])

Debonzo, Peterson, and Analytics

• Question: Who’s next after Boozer? – Givony says the debate is between AJ Debonzo and Darren Peterson for the top picks, but analytics still favor Boozer.
• Peterson’s edge:
  • Givony: “If I had the number one pick...I would go with Darren Peterson because I think he is the biggest talent in this draft.” ([07:47])
  • Peterson: 6’6” with a 6’10” wingspan, dynamic creator, can defend multiple positions.
  • “Darren Peterson is what every NBA team is looking for at that point guard position.” ([08:50])
  • Notably outperformed Debonzo in head-to-head matchups.

Caleb Wilson’s Stock

• Athletic forward likened to Kevin Garnett; likely a solid fit at #4 but “can’t see him surpassing any of the top three” ([10:32]).
• Made significant strides in effort and consistency during his college career.

Glut of Guards: Who Comes Next?

• Keaton Wagler, Kingston Flemings, Darius Acuff, Braden Buries—all find themselves behind higher-upside, bigger prospects like Nate Amen, Mikel Brown, and Adai Mara ([11:55]).
• Givony sings the praises of Mikel Brown (“most talented guard prospect in this draft after Darren Peterson”) and touts the importance of positional size.

One-on-One Prospect Workouts

• Whitlock asks about old-school head-to-heads:
  • Givony: “Workout circuit has changed...a lot of one on zero stuff in the top ten” ([14:01]).
  • More weight now given to game film than solo workouts among top prospects.

The Size Trend & Adai Mara

• With the rise of Wembanyama, demand for towering, mobile centers is surging.
• Givony on Mara: “9’7” standing reach, second largest in combine history. That kind of length and reach is gonna be really hard to score over...He’s going to be a top 10 pick.” ([14:51])

Yaxel Lendeborg: “Plug and Play” Lottery Guy

• Despite being older (23), Givony pegs him at #8–14: “There’s not a lot of projection involved...He’s going to be a plug-and-play guy from day one.” ([15:57])

Rising & Falling Stocks: Maurice Johnson the Big Riser

• “Maurice Johnson...has skyrocketed this whole pre-draft process” – elite wingspan, great combine, analytics love him.
• Could make it three Michigan players in the lottery ([17:02]).

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Cam Boozer’s ceiling:
  “I think he’s going to be a 20 and 10 guy from day one and I think he’s even going to make a run potentially at being an All-Star as a rookie.”
  – Jonathan Givony ([04:08])

• On Darren Peterson’s tools:
  “You build your team around a 6’6 guy who can play point guard, who can handle, pass and shoot...he’s what every NBA team is looking for at that point guard position.”
  – Jonathan Givony ([08:50])

• On the trend toward bigger players:
  “The NBA is trending bigger right now...people want size...Adai Mara has a 9’7” standing reach...[which] is going to make him really compelling on draft night.”
  – Jonathan Givony ([14:51])

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Timestamps: Key Segments

• 03:02–04:08 — Jonathan Givony’s take on Cam Boozer as top pick
• 05:24 — Boozer’s NBA comp discussion
• 07:47 — Debate: Peterson vs. Debonzo for #2
• 10:32 — Caleb Wilson’s draft range
• 11:55 — Ranking this year’s guard prospects, optimism for Mikel Brown
• 14:01 — The evolution of pre-draft workouts
• 14:51 — The size arms race: Adai Mara’s draft stock
• 15:57 — Yaxel Lendeborg’s lottery projection
• 17:02 — Maurice Johnson’s pre-draft surge
• 18:21 — Michigan's strong year, guest sign-off

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Tomorrow’s Headlines Today: Bold Predictions & Analysis

(32:51 – 40:02)

NFL & NBA Headlines (Rachel Nichols & Jason Whitlock)

• A.J. Brown Trade: Whitlock speculates on Baltimore as a possible landing spot, but Nichols pushes back, suggesting Patriots or Chiefs as more likely destinations ([33:52–34:58]).
• Jaylen Brown Trade Scenario: Whitlock floats Bulls as a trade partner, noting their assets and need for a star; Nichols and most Bulls fans skeptical about the potential deal ([35:02–36:47]).
• Western Conference Finals Game 7 Prediction: Whitlock forecasts a Spurs upset, “the flop night rises, then flops again” for SGA ([37:04]).
• NBA Finals Prediction: Rematch of Knicks-Spurs, Knicks taking the title with fresher legs; injuries likely to shape the outcome ([38:08]).
• World Cup Prediction: “Flow State: Bala-gonna Score Again” – Whitlock picks Folarin Balogun as USA’s top World Cup scorer ([39:06]).

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Secondary Headlines & News Discussion

(22:30 – 29:31)

• News with Rachel Nichols:
  • Giannis-to-Cleveland rumors: Both Whitlock and Nichols doubt the move due to Giannis’ reported non-interest and Cleveland’s roster risks ([22:50]).
  • Jalen Hurts discusses new offensive coordinator; uncertainty remains about Eagles' offensive direction ([25:02]).
  • Knicks’ playoff energy, fan engagement, and a Ben Stiller anecdote ([27:45]).
  • Update on Knicks' injuries and finals preparation.

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Summary Takeaways

• Analytics could dominate the top of the 2026 NBA Draft — Cam Boozer’s statistical case is strong, but Darren Peterson’s upside presents intrigue.
• Size, versatility, and advanced skills are the valued NBA archetypes — reflected in the rising stocks of Mara, Johnson, and others.
• Diminished emphasis on solo workouts for top prospects; game film rules.
• The show closes with big-picture predictions — including trades, NBA title picks, and a nod toward the World Cup — all delivered in classic, lively banter between Whitlock and Nichols.

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Memorable Sign-off

• “I can't tell you how geeked I am...we survived the week!”
  – Rachel Nichols & Jason Whitlock ([40:02])

For listeners who missed the show, this episode is a must for anyone tracking the draft, NBA team-building trends, and the intersection of analytics and scouting. The dialogue is engaging, the analysis sharp, and the predictions as bold as ever.

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[Jason Whitlock]

you're listening to fox sports radio welcome back to the herd we will do tomorrow's headlines today at the end of the show i know you're gonna love it but you are absolutely gonna love our next guest i think this is his debut on the herd certainly with me well let's bring in jonathan gavoni founder of draft express the guy basically travels the globe finding all the best new prospects he probably knew about wembanyama like a decade ago jonathan how are

[Jonathan Gavoni]

you man i'm doing great so the last time i was on the herd i came on to say ben simmons is overrated do not take him at one and it was such a hot take even for you guys that you haven't brought me back since how about

[Jason Whitlock]

that hold up that was before my time on the show but that's a hell of a call by you i was a ben simmons truther i do apologize let's start we were talking between the break and i'm floored by this everybody thinks it's debonza versus peterson at one in this loaded draft but you said something about cam boozer that kind of blew my mind tell the audience

[Jonathan Gavoni]

yeah if you talk to the analytics people in nba front offices who have a lot of influence these days one hundred percent of them have cam boozer at number one at the top of their draft model that's not just because of what he did in college where he was the most productive player in college basketball by a mile at eighteen years old but also dating back to what he did in high school as well as at the feeble level cam boozer has been the best player in every setting that he's competed on since he was fourteen years old and that goes a long ways with the analytics models and for good reason because he is is an exceptional talent and i think he's going to be a twenty ten guy from day one and i think he's even going to make a run potentially at being an all star as a rookie that's my take whoa

[Jason Whitlock]

so extremely bullish on boozer now obviously you know the big knock is he's not that athletic he can't jump over a phone book and then the counter is well you know jokic wasn't that athletic either and when i mentioned you know could you see boozer being ahead of a jokic curve people are like come on get out of here but i don't know who do you think he projects as what's your nba comp for for boozer

[Jonathan Gavoni]

that's a great question honestly like there isn't a perfect one like you hear you know like a souped up kevin love you hear you know like you talk about paulo bankero but he's so much of a better defender than him i don't i mean jokic i like that comp just because of the passing ability that's really what separates cam boozer his feel for the game is absolutely exceptional he's got defensively off the ball he's elite he's a great rebounder even though he's not a great athlete he's just first to every loose ball he's his his processing speed his reaction time he is a great basketball player he's also incredibly physical he's really skilled he can shoot he can post he can play pick and roll he can handle the ball we saw duke use him almost as a point guard at times cam boozer is the real deal i think teams that drafting at one and two are giving him a very hard look in this draft even though that might not be the public sentiment wow so i i guess

[Jason Whitlock]

the the next question would be like where does he play and i guess everybody's watching the playoffs now and saying well okay is boozer of four and then you need a big next to him can he be a small ball five like a draymond green where do you see him fitting in on an nba roster obviously he's talented he can fit in anywhere but position wise

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[Jonathan Gavoni]

think he's a power forward who is going to end up playing with the ball in his hands quite a bit because he can really handle he can really pass a guy like that you want to put the ball in his hands as much as possible but he can also play off it because he can really shoot and he can really cut and he can punish mismatches so you're playing pick and roll somebody switches he's going to go down low and he's going to use that big strong frame to his advantage he's got great footwork so really you can play him anywhere on the floor that's what that's the advantage of a cam boozer you can play him in any lineup alongside any type of player and he's going to win basketball games he's done that his entire career there's no reason why that's going to change in the nba

[Jason Whitlock]

wow so you said analytically one hundred percent of the people love boozer analytically you know kenny kenny atkinson's getting ready for game five tonight for for cavs nicks but analytics are a big driving force in the league now where do you think the second boozer go one debonso or peterson who has the edge analytically there well i don't i think

[Jonathan Gavoni]

it's one is really is going to be either peterson or debonza i have the wizards are keeping things very close to the vest i'm not one hundred percent sure where they're going to go i don't even cover the draft full time anymore so it's not really my domain to do mock drafts thank god and all that but if i had the number one pick in the draft i would go with darren peterson because i think he is the biggest talent in this draft he's the most dynamic creator in this draft you know when you're six six six ten wingspan that type of athlete who can create his own shot who can pass who can shoot off the bounce i think he can guard multiple positions what i saw him do at the high school level at fiba at the mcdonald's american game jordan marin classic i know he didn't have the kind of college season that we may have hoped a lot of that was due to injuries he did not have this type of burst that we saw earlier on in his career he was dealing with the cramping issues he was constantly asking to come in and out of games darren peterson is going to be an all nba player in my view i mean you build your team around a six six guy who can play point guard who can handle pass and shoot he's got great physical tools who can defend one through three darren peterson is what every nba team is looking for at that point

[Jason Whitlock]

guard position it's interesting you you mentioned how dominant he was in high school and i'm sure some people listening are like wow come on high school ain't the nba but i'm assuming there is a track record of hey when these kids pop in high school they usually transition well to college in the nba

[Jonathan Gavoni]

well we saw him against aj debonza numerous times over their careers they faced off again and again and again whether it was at usa basketball whether it was at the high school level prolific prep against utah prep whether it was at the mcdonald's or american game where they matched up you know basically all week in practice and then the game and then we also saw them kansas against byu there was not a single setting where they were on the floor together where i felt that darren peterson is not the most talented player on the floor he's just a better athlete he's a better passer he's just a more dynamic player he needs fewer dribbles he's easier to play with don't get me wrong aj debons is a phenomenal player i think he's going to end up being an all star but darren peterson is a notch above him from a talent perspective interesting i love this

[Jason Whitlock]

jonathan jonathan gavoni nfl nba draft analyst sorry i do want to ask about caleb wilson who is you know athletically he looks like he could be kevin garnett you've seen a lot from him he had the injury at the end of the season but what do you see wilson doing any shot he's cracks the top three

[Jonathan Gavoni]

i think there'll be a conversation there i'm sure that memphis will look at that i can't see him surpassing any of the guys in the top three and it's not a knock against him this draft is so loaded in that top three that it really starts at four really with caleb wilson that's and there isn't another alternative there i mean if he's there at four there's there's really no chance that chicago passes on him in my view you know he's he's like you said he's an exceptional athlete he's a very very you know good defender he can rebound he's a great finisher he's really hard to stay in front of you know creating his own shot from the mid post he just made you know huge strides as the year the year moved on he was not this type of player honestly in high school he had a reputation for you know tending to coast at times you know he got cut from you know usa basketball can just because he wasn't playing all that hard that was not the player that we saw this year in college he's going to be an outstanding nba player i think the chicago bulls are going to be very excited to add

[Jason Whitlock]

him at four so in that like five to ten range there's a glut of point guards keaton wagler you got kingston flemings acuff i like braden buries a lot i'm just curious how do you see those guys shaking out in terms of talent is there one that you love more than the others yeah

[Jonathan Gavoni]

i mean i think that all of those guys are going to be usurped on draft night by nate amend i think mikel brown is probably the guy who goes five or six in my view and then nate and then a die mara i think is very much going to be in that conversation in that sit six seven eight range i could see those three guys pushing down an acuff a waggler a kingston flemings because those are the size the positional size is so important and that's where a guy like a darius acuff or a kingston fleming's really comes up short and you saw what a daimara did in the final four in the national championship game seven foot four you know incredible passer you know it was just a really really skilled player and then nate a met you know six ten six eleven can shoot off the dribble can create his own shot you know very versatile defender that's what the nba game is built around we're watching the playoff games you know you don't see a lot of six two guys out there right i mean it's it's the guys with that positional size who are can play multiple positions that are dynamic they can play on the ball off the ball that's what really what the nba covets and then and mikhail brown is another guy that i think we we didn't get the the best eval on him this year at louisville because of the back issue you know my understanding is that he's fully cleared he's good to go you know his measurements are absurd and just what he can do with the ball in his hands playing pick and roll shooting off the dribble mikel brown i think is you know he's the most talented guard prospect in this draft after darren peterson interesting

[Jason Whitlock]

now i love these one on one matchups in in the workouts i know they don't do them as often the greatest story i think you might have i might have heard you say in this was the steph curry versus the kid tyreek evans who ended up going to memphis and they played one on one and evans killed him and you know obviously memphis jumped at it and it was like we got to get in the tyreek evans business some guys aren't built for that one on one matchup have you heard about any matchups or workouts that were where top prospects will be going at one another yeah

[Jonathan Gavoni]

i think the the workout circuit has changed now i mean where the agents are very risk averse and it's a lot of one on zero stuff in the top ten you know you might get you know a one on one match matchup like later in the in the mid to late part of the first round but you know these top guys that we're talking about they're going to be dribbling around cones and and shooting wide open jumpers you're gonna have to go back to their game film if you really want to get a feel for how good they are yeah

[Jason Whitlock]

dai mara from michigan you know you said seven foot four has grown immensely as a talent since the ucla days i'm just curious watching wembanyama eat do you think there are teams in the west who are like you know what we you can't find anyone remotely large as large as wembanyama so you got to find someone big do you think this helps mara at all that wembanyama is emerging as like maybe the best

[Jonathan Gavoni]

player in the league i mean every the the trend the last few years has been towards size i mean people are trying to play multiple bigs together at the same time and so you need really skilled really long you know centers who can who can pass and can score and can protect the rim adai mara has a nine foot seven standing reach second largest in nba combine history after taco fall and so that kind of you know length and reach is going to be really hard to score over inside the paint and that combined with the skill level offensively the passing the field for the game i mean the footwork the touch that is going to make him really compelling on draft night and that's why he's going to be a top ten pick when it's all said and done i do

[Jason Whitlock]

want to ask about linda borg the great talent from michigan he's on the older side we know the history of you know guys who are like twenty three in the lottery twenty even twenty two is he a candidate to slide a little bit but maybe that works out best for him because then he

[Jonathan Gavoni]

goes to a good team i think he's going to end up in that eight to fourteen range maybe ten to fourteen i don't see him sliding very far you know i mean he was the second best player in college basketball this year after cam boozer and you know we saw him play every position in michigan small forward power forward center he can handle he can pass he can shoot he made a big jump defensively this year you know that frame that we're seeing the length the seven four wingspan there's i just can't see very many teams wanting to pass on that yes the age is a little bit of concern but on the other hand teams are going to say we i want an older player i want somebody that's ready to step in from day one there's not a lot of projection involved with yaxel lendeborg and so he's gonna hear his name called very high on draft night and i think he's going to be a plug and play guy from day one yeah and

[Jason Whitlock]

last one jonathan any high risers or fallers that you're hearing about scuttlebutt teams love keep an eye on i mean i'm surprised nate almond in like the six seven range would shock me but you're way more plugged in on this than anybody what are you hearing

[Jonathan Gavoni]

yeah you know it's still a little bit early i mean really only now are teams in the lottery starting to really get going with their workouts the guy that's really skyrocketed this whole pre draft process is maurice johnson you know starting with what we saw in the ncaa tournament you know michigan winning winning the championship but his measurements were elite he measured six foot nine barefoot which is a little bit bigger than a lot of people thought he would be seven four wingspan two hundred fifty one pounds went into the drill portion of the nba combine and really shot it well blew people away in the interviews he's only twenty years old another guy that the analytics absolutely love you know he really fills up the box score with with rebounds with blocks with steals he scores it very efficiently sixty six percent for two he gets the free throw line he makes his free throws there's a you know a sense of optimism that mares johnson is going to be a guy that is going to be able step outside and make threes eventually so you know like we talked about earlier the nba is trending bigger right now people want you know size the fact that he played the four as well as the five and you know show that he can operate in different types of lineups that's going to help morris johnson a lot i could see him end up being a lottery pick in this draft and that'll be three michigan guys in the lottery pretty good

[Jason Whitlock]

year for dusty may yes nicely done all right jonathan gavoni nba draft analyst hey man we're going to have to have you back again this is a phenomenal stuff because you know you could bet on the draft now and you just were given some actionable stuff great stuff jonathan gavoni thanks a lot bud

[Jonathan Gavoni]

thanks for having me jason all right

[Jason Whitlock]

really good stuff you guys know i nerd out on the draft i mean seriously i totally do be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays at noon eastern nine am pacific on fox sports radio fs one and the iheartradio app this is rob parker and

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card all right let's go to rachel nichols with the news no no no

[Jonathan Gavoni]

turn on the news this is the

[Jason Whitlock]

herdline news i feel like this show

[Rachel Nichols]

is basically just insider trading for you you're like asking experts who should i bet on you go place them with kelsey or whatever well did you hear

[Jason Whitlock]

adai mara like i mean it sounds like mara could go six boozer won i'm gonna go look at the odds app just to see just to see

[Rachel Nichols]

just to know it's all good let's stay with the nba jason because we know cleveland's postseason really bad did not end the way anyone wanted and today's news not great bob while giannis for evan mobley talk has been buzzing the last week you and i have talked about it there are new reports that giannis is not interested in cleveland as a long term landing spot of course it's not technically giannis's decision to say where he goes if he even goes anywhere he does have a year left on his deal so i guess jason if you were the bucs and the cavs first of all if you're milwaukee do you want evan mobley and some picks or you know throw in a you know more minor player is that enough for you when you're trading giannis and then also if you're cleveland and you know he's not so hot on it do you want to take him back and take that risk well you're

[Jason Whitlock]

playing the kawhi game right that the raptors did problem is like i don't know giannis with the injuries that he's had over the last year and then you're going to have to give up evan mobley who's supposed to be a cornerstone what is he twenty three twenty four so i don't know to me you're good on this messaging stuff it sounds like giannis saw i mean hell we talked about it on this i

[Rachel Nichols]

was going to say yeah is everyone's

[Jason Whitlock]

talking about right now so giannis sees that out there and is like getting to his guy like yo i ain't going to cleveland can you put that out there can you can you run it up the flagpole and so next thing you know giannis not happening in cleveland so i don't i don't know dan gilbert is a is a risk taker right yeah maybe he says i don't care what you want giannis i want to i want to come here and try to win a chip but my guess is it's not going to

[Rachel Nichols]

happen well look you and i are on the same page by the way all these experts say he's going to miami he's going to miami they have the best package i don't know if the players you get back they have the best i don't know i don't know i'm not by the way yeah

[Jason Whitlock]

what's that package tyler hero yeah it's jaime jacques who i love but like what are you doing with those guys

[Rachel Nichols]

i'm picks obviously but yeah we'll see you and i will see and you know we don't know this isn't right or wrong we'll just have to see what they decide let's go back to the eagles jason because we were talking about them all day yesterday jalen hurts as we noted not overflowing with praise about aj brown but today he is all rainbows and unicorns about his new offensive coordinator sean manion take a listen

[Jalen Brunson]

yeah it's been a really good process so far he's come in and he's very clear given good direction you can definitely see the vision been able to answer all of my questions very instructive very helpful so it's been a very enjoyable journey so far it's exciting to be able to learn the new brand of football get new perspective and just

[Rachel Nichols]

grow it's exciting he looks very excited there but you know there's all this who's to blame for the late season collapse in philly right you know is it aj brown being difficult is it super bowl mvp as you like to say jalen hurts not being good enough is it other stuff with the team look you can't ignore the fact that they've had back to back new signal callers for hurts the last few seasons and i don't know if he likes manion and manion's certainly promising maybe this is enough to turn him around a

[Jason Whitlock]

little bit yeah i think you put me onto this because you forget sometimes during these searches but mike brown was not the knicks first choice absolutely not i think he was like their third right i don't think sean manion was the first choice for the eagles this is a guy who's never called playsman for right so sometimes you don't land on your first choice and it works

[Rachel Nichols]

out great anyway yeah well jalen again looked incredibly excited but for him i think what is with these he was like i'm very excited i'm very excited

[Jason Whitlock]

he's locked in this is mister reef

[Rachel Nichols]

case he is locked in a mate jason no he doesn't have to be emotive on the on the podium up there i don't i don't care at all about that i do want him to get the best opportunity to show his best self because i think both of us like him as a player and there's been knocks on him right and left certainly in the last year and let's see let's give him the best opportunity and see how he can do so maybe he'll win another super bowl mvp not this year but at some point let's go back to your new york knicks jason on fire right now as they wait for the western conference to wrap up i mean this has just been days and days of people being excited and now we see yam soto getting into it soto did the jalen brunson celebration after he hit a home run mikhail bridges says the knicks are loving all of it take

[Jalen Brunson]

a listen yeah i mean it's great you know it's great to see the fans you know excited i know it's been a long time save my family friends you know everybody excited but i know every single one of them you know more worried about winning these four than anything else that happened so you know it's great to see everybody happy but i know everybody else even my parents and family they're excited but i know they went through the same main goal the same goals everybody else on this team does

[Rachel Nichols]

i mean you love hearing that if you're mike brown right his job right now in addition to prepping for the finals is keeping these guys from believing their own hype i mean we've seen players do that going into an nba finals and then they're not really prepared their mindset isn't in the right place i don't know though there is a lot i mean there is nothing like new york city getting excited about the knicks i mean it's just literally in the streets and i want to tell you a funny ben stiller story here mike brown's wife really loves ben stiller she wanted a photo with ben stiller she tried to get jaylen to get her a photo with ben stiller because again everyone's happy about the knicks right now jalen's like eh i don't really know him i don't feel comfortable this was ben stiller's reply back on twitter i am available for any picture anytime with any member of mike brown's immediate or extended family or any of his friends this man has taken us to the finals in his first year here so there you go

[Jason Whitlock]

i love how stiller and timothy chalamet are like basically part of the team at this point they're on the court celebrating with the guys by the way i i just saw this that mitchell robinson i guess mike brown was is being grilled about this pinky yeah and it's like he did not break it in the game he did not break it at practice and so it's like oh mitchell robinson getting in fights what's going on here so now this is going to be you know a little hullabaloo just because i got to work hullabaloo into the show absolutely over the weekend but listen we cannot get too excited we got what did kobe say job's not finished job's not done job's

[Rachel Nichols]

not finished job's not done we got work to do that's interesting though that mike brown said that because there is a point in the last game the knicks played where you really see him getting you know banged up by a bunch of players and then someone goes to like pull him up with that same hand and he kind of puts it away and i don't know but he says it i don't know we'll

[Jason Whitlock]

see go knicks rachel with the news well that's the news and thanks for stopping by the herd lie news right you know every friday tomorrow's headlines today not even going to tease what the topics are but they're pretty spicy we'll do that next year on the herd be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays at noon eastern nine

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[Jason Whitlock]

segment of the week it's been an awesome week here rachel and i absolutely crushing it we're gonna wrap up with tomorrow's headlines today rachel i know you love this segment i do it's one of my faves you do your little thing during it it's funny the audience loves it take it away well i

[Rachel Nichols]

got you a little present for this one actually exciting so i will say when we've done this together before your tomorrow's headlines have not panned out some of the time i gotta be honest so today this time i got you a tea bag i think this is like a fancy tea bag right and so i'll throw this over to you and you can read the tea leaves and maybe be a little more accurate i'm just saying you got to step up i'm stepping up i'm even putting the glasses on here so i get everything this is serious jason serious all right we're going to get to the nba but i got to do a little housekeeping here with the nfl a lot of questions about where this wide receiver will play tomorrow's headlines today what will be the headline for aj brown

[Jason Whitlock]

this season i think we've only done aj brown like eight times since january picked six or seven different teams i got a fresh one though for you okay the headline for aj brown this season will be raven is fundamental baltimore acquires rare edition how about this rachel so lamar still doesn't have his deal interestingly aj brown june first is likely to get dealt somewhere if you look at the baltimore wide receiver room they haven't done anything they didn't make any upgrades lost a couple tight ends if they're going to go all in maybe lamar has changed his tune from i want a fully guaranteed deal to hey can you go get me a superstar receiver that would be really nice zay flowers is good but aj brown would be better so i'll toss that out there aj brown to the ravens the

[Rachel Nichols]

clock is ticking here's my response to that i think you need two sets of tea leaves because he's not going to the ravens jason you know that i mean right now everyone's saying it's only boston in the race right only the patriots and you and i think that the kansas city chiefs should get in there but they're not even saying anything yet yeah we've narrowed it down

[Jason Whitlock]

to contenders right as fun as the raiders talk is it's not realistic yeah

[Rachel Nichols]

or the ravens talk not realistic just saying all right next up you have a trade prediction for a certain sell list oh yes tomorrow's headlines today what will be the headline for jalen brown brown next season well i mean if

[Jason Whitlock]

last one was a two teabagger this is probably like a six the headline for jalen brown unhappy jaylen brown next season b trade recent acquisition excites bull market chicago starved for a superstar goes after jalen brown they can dangle that number four pick in the draft they do have two draft picks in the in the lottery so they're in good shape and you could put together a package of josh giddy you know you could put together boozelis who everybody likes probably too much to trade him away and then a patrick williams i've run this through the espn trade machine it does work i did run it by some bulls fans who were like hell no but again i think jaylen brown is one of these good players but i don't know if he's a number one and i think somebody though desperate enough because you know are the bulls going to get a franchise guy at four maybe but how about jaylen brown is that a good tea leave reading

[Rachel Nichols]

first of all i don't know if they can put the graphic up again but i need to know who those people in the background are because there's some questionable figures back there i don't know they look very serious over there first of all you talked to your bulls fan friends yeah yeah that's that does not include cowherd bell that's a really good notion of whether a team's going to do a trade boston's not doing that trade either josh giddey for jaylen brown no josh kidding's part of

[Jason Whitlock]

the deal boozelis would be the best guy but the number four pick hey no you get a plug and play guy according to gavoni no no all

[Rachel Nichols]

right we're moving on i can't handle this this is too much for me next up i want to know tomorrow's headlines today this is a prediction for the nba this weekend jason what will be the headline after game seven of the nba western conference final a headline

[Jason Whitlock]

rachel will actually like game seven saturday night here we go the headline okay will be the flop night rises jason then flops again give me the spurs going into the dust bowl and winning game seven as sga lays another egg and we come on here oh boy next week and it's going to be open season on the two time mvp give me the spurs winning look the

[Rachel Nichols]

spurs i think we've had three people say on the show the spurs are the more fun result there and the thunder are going to be favored so we'll have to see what happens great prediction not as good with the headline you're so mean just so mean dark knight rises what ca is trying to do is you know feel how the court's going to be he's trying to get a feel for it you know you can't just test that with your sneakers flippity flop flop i'm just saying all right now we go to the knicks and spurs who are who your picks so we've got to go to tomorrow's headlines today what will be the headline for game seven oh i'm sorry i did that one we already got that but what will be the headline

[Jason Whitlock]

for the nba finals nba finals yeah where is a really risky pick here but the headline for the nba finals will be tonight we're gonna party like it's nineteen ninety nine but win this time i think we see a rematch of knicks spurs and you see my guy jalen brunson there that was a just a brutal picture and i think jalen brunson and the knicks get the dub over the spurs whoever wins spurs or thunder is going to be exhausted yeah and we see the injuries mounting the knicks are rested except for mitchell robinson give me the knicks to win the nba finals yeah no look these

[Rachel Nichols]

injuries have changed a lot of people's minds you know they're going to be so beat up this will be the third series in a row that the knicks play a team in a series that is coming off a seven game series so they got some tired guys coming at them some injured guys we'll have to see who they get all right finally your favorite topic the world cup tomorrow's headlines today what will be the headline for usa's top scorer at

[Jason Whitlock]

the world cup i anticipate us doing like an all world cup here in the next coming weeks but the headline for the usa's top scorer will be flow state bala gonna score again that's my guy flo baligun i love him as a scoring machine i like christian pulisic but he is in a bit of a funk and i think flo and company get it done listen i can't tell you how geeked i am we did a little world cup this week probably do a little more next week as all the rosters are finalized but if you had to pick a leading score who you got no i'm

[Rachel Nichols]

with you man he's just such a fun player yeah like fun off the field fun on the field it's who

[Jason Whitlock]

you want to root for he's who we thought josie altidor would be josie altidor was good but i think slow

[Rachel Nichols]

how can you compliment someone without taking a shot at someone else not a

[Jason Whitlock]

shot altidor was really good but like you know flow i think is next level hopefully that wasn't a shot i love josie altidor come on yeah definitely tell all right rachel we survived the

[Rachel Nichols]

week yes we have late news though sean sweeney from the spurs being hired as the orlando magic coach he was considered the best guy out there so i don't know he's a he's a young young dude young assistant assistant associate head coach of the spurs so they'll stay with them how far they go

[Jason Whitlock]

so all right rachel thank you it was a splendid week producers delivered headline writers crushed it guests were off the hook i mean goodness gracious i'm going to sleep see you next week brought

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