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Colin Cowherd
Play one three natties. Three time Big Ten champ, 17 years coaching college football, Bowling Green, Utah, Florida, Ohio State. Now he's working at Fox Sports. Urban Meyer is now joining us tonight. Ohio State's playing Miami. What do. Let me start with this one before we get into the games. So you, you know, you were an athlete. You golf still. You get out there, you got kids, grandkids, you're active. You're 61. Whittingham, 66. Do you think in five years from today you would have the energy to be a college football coach? Take your how you live today. Five years. That's a lot of good times. That's a lot. Five years from today, would you have the energy? 66 is a big number there. I tell it is older. What do you make of that?
Urban Meyer
Personally, no, I would not just because the way I did it, it was all in and you know, Kyle is a unique breed. Kyle is a guy that is 66 going on 56. I know him very well. Obviously he's in great shape. But me personally, no chance. No chance that to go back to working the hours and the, and the, the grind? No. No chance.
Colin Cowherd
What's his best asset? What's, what's Kyle best at?
Urban Meyer
Oh, man, I've been asked this question a lot lately. He is a tough guy. He understands his football acumen, I would say is as good as anyone I've ever been around. You know, I'd put, you know, Dan Mullen, Ryan Day and, and Kyle and Powell probably better than all of them. That's how he's such a smart guy, understands both sides of the ball. But I think the best thing he does is he, he demands respect. But he still is very close to this Players and I, I just always admired that about him when he was working for me years ago.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah. Okay. Miami to Ohio State. Very good defenses. I think Julian Sands, the most underrated college football player in the country. I think he's really, really good. You know, everybody knows Ohio State's got great backs. Last year, great receivers. This year it's Ohio State. I just don't know if Miami can move the ball much. I don't think Ohio State's going to march up and down the field. I don't know if Miami can move the ball in this team, can they?
Urban Meyer
I don't think they can. I don't know. Unless Ohio State does something very uncharacteristic and turn the ball over a few times, I don't see them. I did not see Miami driving the ball against Ohio State. I saw very few, very few teams do that. You know, the only team that beat them was obviously Indiana. And our man Mendoza made some incredible throws. And I don't see Ohio State moving up the ball, moving up and down the field on Miami either. This is going to be a slug fest. And I, I just don't see Miami score. And I told people if Ohio State scores two touchdowns, they win that game. And I still believe that.
Colin Cowherd
When you go into a game like this and you know it's going to be low scoring, you, you, you're the favored team, but you know it's going to be low scoring. Do you think Ryan Day will call a conservative game basically believing, guys, we will eventually make a play on the perimeter, but we're not giving them points? I mean, I've seen Ryan. I've seen Ryan do that before a couple times. It's not a criticism. When you have Ohio State talent and you know the other team's not going to score much. Would you be prone to try some fun stuff early or just go into it knowing we'll grind them down and we'll win? Because, I mean, I think Ryan Day watches film. You do. Miami's not dropping 28 here. They're not. So do you think Lionel coach conservatively?
Urban Meyer
I think he's in a very unique position of being the head coach now. The play caller, he's always been very involved in play call. And you ask, what would I do? I would do exactly what you just said. I would be very conservative. As the game started, I would be such an emphasis on special teams and trying to, you know, I would always tell our offense. And people get shocked sometimes that I say this. Your job as an offense is to get Two for in this type of game get two first downs and then see what happens. But you have to get two first downs because Colin that flips the field. You get two first downs, you're near midfield, you punt the ball, they're starting inside their 10. If you got excellent special teams and that's where the mistakes are made. Your job as an offense is stay out of that situation and put them in that situation in this kind of game. Now if they have matchup night like a matchup advantage which I believe they do with those two receivers there might be times as a cross or getting near that 50 yard line to shoot the ball down the field. I would not mess around inside your own 10, 20, 25 yard line. Do not do that. Get to first down, you get near midfield, go ahead and take a few shots because this will be a field position game because Miami's defense is legit. Legit.
Colin Cowherd
Oh yeah. Oh yeah.
Urban Meyer
And they can't, they can't screw around with that defense.
Colin Cowherd
I think Indiana is going to blow Alabama out. I think I, I, I've watched Alabama play six times and I don't know series to series what I'm getting, they can't run the ball. They're inconsistent. They're not. Their receivers are excellent. I think Indiana is really good. I think Indiana is the second best team in the country. I think if they faced Ohio State again they'd lose. Close. You watched Alabama play, you watched Indiana. Who do you honestly think is better? Take the names off who's better consistently?
Urban Meyer
How about Colin Cowards saying Indiana is going to blow on Alabama and you still have a show to do. That's amazing. 2025, I think it's going to be very close game. I think on paper Alabama's got that incredible roster. I'm like you, I just, I was actually at the game with Bob Stoops watching the Alabama Oklahoma game. I stood next to their players, I watched them in warm ups. I was like my gosh that's a looking team but they're up and down Indiana. This is the most talented Indiana team of all of all time. Todd MC said they're going to have eight players drafted which is more than they had for the past eight years combined. And Mendoza, it's all on Mendoza. Mendoza has one of his days. Indiana wins. If he does it, I don't know if they can beat Alabama. Those that has to have a great day like he did against.
Colin Cowherd
So you and I, I think we agree on Lincoln Riley, smart guy.
Urban Meyer
Gosh.
Colin Cowherd
But we're several Years in and we don't see the toughness they can't tackle. They just lost a good D.C. to Penn State. I know he's smart, he's on the right side of the ball. And that Jaden Myab is one of the most improved players in college football. I don't doubt he's very good at the offensive thing, but, man, you got bowl losses to two Lane and TCU and you. It's. I. It's really an interesting thing. I. There's so much I like about him. But you're watching. You know, you watched that last night at the end. What do we make of USC Riley this morning? What do we make of them? Or should we just say it's a bowl game. Nobody's playing. They didn't play their starters. I mean, they had nine guys that would never see the field in the regular season game. All they wanted to do is practice with their young guys. Bowls are different now. How do you view it?
Urban Meyer
I think I've said this on this show and certainly on our podcast and Big Noon many, many times. That's the one job. I don't understand that. It's not in the playoffs and we're not talking about them now in the second round of the playoffs. I don't. They have everything you need. They have tradition. They have all the players right there. I think they have an excellent coach. Lincoln Riley has always been a guy I looked up to, and his football acumen is very high, but there's been a flaw that's followed him from Oklahoma to usc. And that's defense, that's tackling, and it doesn't seem to be going away. So I. I don't understand it. I. To me, that's the one of all. I put Florida probably number two. I just don't understand how Florida is not winning. But USC with the quality coach, they have the quality of talent within two hours of that program. The history, tradition, the money. I don't. It makes no sense to me. And I watched that game last night and I was in because I have respect for T. But what are we talking about? We're talking about USC with a. With a highly paid coach that's been successful and how that you can say it's just a bowl game. I don't look at it that way at all. They lost. USC shouldn't lose.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah. So you coached in the SEC, in the Big Ten, and it was understood for about 20 years there were more Sunday guys down south. I. If Oregon, Ohio State and Indiana win, can we say indisputably the powers north. The Big Ten is the best conference.
Urban Meyer
You know, how about Illinois beating Tennessee, you know, and, and Iowa, you know, they're playing right now. And so I, I said this last year that the top the last two years, you don't have to say, you could watch it. The top of the Big Ten was better than the top of the sec. I still thought the quality of depth of the SEC when you look at the NFL draft picks in the mid of the SEC down to the bottom is much stronger than the Big Ten. I, I think we need to reevaluate if those things happen that you just said, well, certainly the top of the Big Ten is going to be better. But when Illinois goes and beats Tennessee, you know, I, I and Iowa can beat Vanderbilt, then you're going to say top to bottom, Big Ten, the power has shifted up north, which is, is an amazing thing to say.
Colin Cowherd
Okay, I'm looking at the score right now. I'm doing this live. Hold on Vanderbilt. Hold on. God. Iowa's hammer and Vanderbilt.
Urban Meyer
I just was watching and I mean hammer them playing great defense, tackling and hitting up hit the heck, heck out of them.
Colin Cowherd
I was tough. I watched Iowa play Oregon. That was a go either way game. It was crappy weather. That was a good game. Good TV product. Yeah, it's, it's pretty good. Let's see. All right. You know, I was thinking about this. You're friends with Kyle Winningham and he's at Michigan and next year's Ohio State, Michigan game. I mean, that's a tough one for you now, right? Like what, how do you, how are you emotionally? Are you ready for that? Emotionally?
Urban Meyer
Oh, I have to work on it. But Kyle called me. How about this Colin call? Kyle called me, he said, what do you think? And I thought, Kyle, you're 66 years old. You just stepped down. You've been at Utah for, I want to say 30 years, as in as a player. He played at BYU, he coached at BYU, then Utah assistant coordinator, then head coach. The scrutiny he's going to be under is going to be immense. But there's no better football coach out there in the country than Kyle Wynham. And I'm one of his biggest fans and a very close friend. So long story short, I am pulling for him in every game. I just. Do I have to answer that now? But he called me and I said, I said, I said quote, are you kidding me? And then I started putting two into two together that you have one of the premier programs, 110,000 people in that stadium, everything you need. And think what he's done in Utah or it's very limited, it's not a great recruiting base and he's turned that into what he is. So this is going to be amazing to watch, man.
Colin Cowherd
It is. Okay, so I'm going Ohio State, Indiana, Georgia. It's hard to. Oregon's just played the last two years against better players, better teams, and I do think that matters here, but I don't think, I think Dante Moore is going to be under some duress. I think that game is going to be lower scoring, I guess. I like Oregon. If you told me there was an upset, I'd say that. But I do. Let me ask you this. So Oregon plays a much better schedule. Does that matter when you get into these kind of games, what you've done the last 10, 11 weeks?
Urban Meyer
Of course it does. I think you, you know your strengths and weaknesses. There's some teams that you know if you don't play those strong games early, like Ohio State, I think, still trying to figure out their weaknesses. They, they're, they, their schedule really wasn't that difficult. They had Texas at the front end, they had Indiana, the back end, and in between a bunch of teams they were better than. So I think they're still identifying whatever their issues are. Oregon knows, you know, Oregon had, Oregon has some tough ass games on the road at Penn State, Indiana. So they've had some tough games. They know their weaknesses. So it's not so much knowing your strengths, it's knowing about where is the flaw in your program. And right now Ohio State still, you know, they still don't know because, you know, obviously missing a chip shot, field goal and the fourth down, the two red zone misses and then I give it up a couple of downfield passes. Other than that, Ohio State has no flaws. And so they're, as they continue on this progression of Miami and then probably Georgia, it looks like they're still trying to figure that. To answer your question, Oregon knows their flaws and they've been working on it.
Colin Cowherd
The other thing about Oregon that's, you know, I've watched like seven Oregon games is they're losing both coordinators, which is a little odd. And the other thing is for a big chunk of their schedule, all their wide receivers were banged up. So I feel like I don't, I've never seen Oregon play fully healthy. So I don't. I keep saying Oregon's beatable and I'm like, well, maybe they're not when they're healthier. So I do get Dante Moore and Lanning. I really like Lanning. I think Lanning. Yeah. I gotta be honest with you. When they hired Lanning, a Georgia guy, I'm like, that's a weird hire. I'm not. I'm not sure Dan Lanning is going to work. Why is he so successful?
Urban Meyer
I was the same day when they hired him, I. First of all, I didn't know who he was. I heard his name, and then we. We struck up a relationship. He reached out a few times. We had a great conversation. He invited me out. I spent two days with this program, and I walked away and said, that is. That's. That's a. Not only him, but his coaching staff. And now it's. It's picked apart a little bit. Like what happened to me in Florida. They start taking your coordinators and Tasha Lupo and excellent defensive coach and then obviously his offense coordinator, so they're picking him apart. But Dan Lanning, what makes him. He's a player. He's tough as heck on the players, but he also loves those players, and they love him back. So it was a. It's the way college football is supposed to look. When I watch that practice. Tough, physical, and everybody going hard.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah. God, he's so. He's easy to like, man, he is. He is so. Oh, he is. I. It's just fun. All right, well, enjoy that game tonight. Enjoy that game tonight.
Urban Meyer
I think the Buckeyes score three touchdowns, they win the game.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah. I'm gonna go. I'm gonna say it. I'm gonna say it right off the top. I'm gonna go. Ohio State, 24, Miami 13. That's what it feels like, man.
Urban Meyer
That's 2110. Yeah.
Colin Cowherd
I don't know. I don't know if Miami. I don't know if Ohio State can score 24. Maybe I'm. We both feel kind of the same way. We both kind of feel the same way. We don't think Miami is going to score two touchdowns. We both agree there. Yeah.
Urban Meyer
Which. Last question. How to. Or for you is how. Which Carson Beck will show up if he throws that ball to the Scarlet jerseys? It could be much more than 24. If he doesn't, it'll be a low scoring game.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah, I kind of sold my Carson Beck stock. I like. I think crystal balls had a hell of a year. Because every time I watch Miami, they got better. I think that's good. I mean, they got better. I watched that Pittsburgh game, and that's. I was like, oh, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, Whoa. I thought that was going to be, you know, northern Miami up north, and they blew them out. And I was like, wow, they have improved by two touchdowns from August, September. All right, Urban, good seeing you.
Urban Meyer
Thanks, Colin.
Colin Cowherd
You bet. Yeah, I think it's. I think it's on the number 8, 9, 10. We'll see. I just. I like them. I like the kind of flashy Tony, flashy Miami blue blood Ohio State. I'm telling you, Iowa's Hammer and Vandy. Illinois beats Tennessee. Thank God for usc so the SEC can feel good about itself. Somebody's got to lose the Big Ten.
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Jason McIntyre
All right, Final Herd line of the Year cowherd. Let's start with the 49ers. 49ers Seahawks, in a huge game, must win for the number one seed for the division. I remain mystified that Seattle is a one and a half point favorite. It feels like I'm on an island here with the Niners. Every time I look online, all I'm seeing is Seattle. Seattle Colin Kyle Shanahan has actually jumped to the second best odds behind Mike Vrabel for Coach of the year. Obviously, if he gets the number one seed, you got to give it to him. I don't know. I'm surprised Liam Cohen's not getting more love. Jacksonville won like, four games last year.
Colin Cowherd
Well, he is getting love. It's just.
Jason McIntyre
I mean, he's. His odds are plus 1200. Why is Vrabel that high? They've had the easiest schedule in the league. What are we doing?
Colin Cowherd
First of all, there are no easy schedules.
Jason McIntyre
No, they had the easy. They've played the weakest schedule. They played the largest number of teams that have a below.500 record. Give me a break.
Colin Cowherd
I've seen the Rams get whacked by the Falcons and the Panthers this year.
Jason McIntyre
Panthers, I believe, have a winning record and could make the playoffs, but yes.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah, I mean, Patriots lost to the.
Jason McIntyre
Raiders in the opener.
Colin Cowherd
Okay, let's slow down.
Jason McIntyre
Like, everybody loses a game.
Colin Cowherd
I would probably give it to Vrabel, but I think I said, as a coaching staff, the Niners have been absolutely ridiculously good, given the injuries.
Jason McIntyre
I mean, Patriots haven't had the injuries. That 49. I would go Niners. I would go Shanahan, followed by Liam Cohen. That job in Jacksonville, tremendous. Nobody. Some people had the Patriots, like yourself. Zero people had the Jags making the playoffs, much less hosting a playoff game. I mean, Cohen's. Cohen made Trevor Lawrence look like the guy we thought he'd be, right?
Colin Cowherd
True. No, that's true. He has. I mean, Trevor looks like what we thought he was going to be out of Clemson. I think that's a good way to put it.
Jason McIntyre
You know, it may come as a shock to you, but I've made some enemies on the interwebs with my. Chargers are going to beat the Patriots in the playoffs, and now all these Patriot fans are going crazy. Well, May's the MVP and Vrabel's a great coach. You think Vrabel's that good of a coach? Colin, you had him in your Super 6 or whatever it's called.
Colin Cowherd
You don't think Vrabel's a good coach?
Jason McIntyre
I think he's good, but six.
Colin Cowherd
By the way, he had Tennessee as a number one seed. Look at Tennessee since he left. It is a tire fire. It's the worst operation in the league.
Jason McIntyre
Big fact. If I said, colin, you're starting a franchise tomorrow, you can have Kevin o' Connell or Mike Vrabel.
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Colin Cowherd
Vrabel. And I like Kevin o'. Connell.
Jason McIntyre
I'm taking koc, baby. That's my guy. Offensive coordinate. Wait till he fixes J.J. mcCarthy next year.
Colin Cowherd
Okay?
Jason McIntyre
I think you can't wait. All right, let's go to Tampa Bay and Carolina. I don't know, what's your excitement level for this game? This Division has been so wild.
Colin Cowherd
I wanted to bet. I wanted to bet Carolina, but I'm 0 for 3 and I'm not going to do it anymore. I'm never going to bet an NFC south team again.
Jason McIntyre
Yeah, I'm not gonna do it ever again.
Colin Cowherd
Ever.
Jason McIntyre
That's a little. I don't.
Colin Cowherd
I don't bet Big 12 football. It's too crazy.
Jason McIntyre
Okay, well, Baker Mayfield is a huge reason for the demise of the Panthers. It might be the shoulder thing, I don't know. Anyways, here's Todd Bowles calling out his quarterbacks play ahead of the win and in playoff game.
Colin Cowherd
Oh.
Urban Meyer
It'S mistakes. We gotta be better at the quarterback position. We gotta be better at the signal calling position. We gotta be better blocking it. Winning in this league is hard. There's no negativity inside the locker room, inside the building. As far as we're concerned, there's mistakes.
Colin Cowherd
There's things we gotta clean up.
Urban Meyer
There's trust, there's belief. We gotta play harder. We gotta play a lot better. We gotta coach a lot better.
Jason McIntyre
Sounds like a beaten down man, doesn't it? Like me after I got to take the trash out. I'm like, oh, Bulls. Just looks like he's been through the ringer now.
Colin Cowherd
It is hard to win. Go watch the Rams fall behind in the first half. And now the Rams go to Arizona. And you have to inspire your players. Oh, Arizona's dangerous. Are they. It's hard.
Jason McIntyre
But the Rams are in the playoffs. Tampa's fighting for their lives. By the way, this line is crazy. So it was.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah, three.
Jason McIntyre
Now it's two and a half. But here's the wacky part. Two weeks ago they played and Tampa was favored in Carolina by three. Now they're getting less at home. This feels a little.
Colin Cowherd
I don't. I don't know.
Jason McIntyre
I don't know what to do with this game. I'm in a pick them pool. Who do you pick in this one?
Colin Cowherd
Oh, I don't. It's the nfc.
Jason McIntyre
No, you have to. You have to pick every game. It's a pick them pool every week. You got to pick every game.
Colin Cowherd
I would. I have no feel for the Panthers. I would say bucks, but I have no feel. None.
Jason McIntyre
So basically, essentially flip a coin here, right? Is that what you're saying?
Colin Cowherd
Yeah.
Jason McIntyre
Final story, Colin. Oh, this is fun. This is really fun. So a lot of reports about Mike McDaniel's future in Miami. Apparently he was gone. Now he saved his job. Well, we'll see. One report has even linked him to the Cleveland Browns if they were to move on from Kevin Stefanski. The report suggested the two could see swap teams. So McDaniel, who knows a left handed quarterback would go there and maybe work with Dylan Gabriel and Kevin Stefanski would leave Cleveland for Miami, which is like going from driving like a Civic to a Porsche. And it's like, oh, hello, I had a coach swap. That's sexy.
Colin Cowherd
No, I mean, I just, I would keep Stefanski where he's at and Mike where he's at. I'm interested to see who gets the GM job in Miami. Got a few leads on that.
Jason McIntyre
Oh, what do you got?
Colin Cowherd
Well, Mike, just throwing stuff out there. The New year. How about this?
Jason McIntyre
Instead of texting me updates about the Saints, can you send me something about the GM search in Miami? I mean, the Saints text is, I'm laughing. I'm like, what's going on here?
Colin Cowherd
Oh boy. All right. J. Mac with a mix. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by the Herd LIE news coming up next. Bull or bologna? These bowl games are hideous. I like college football. I'm not watching them. We'll explain that.
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Colin Cowherd
Today is New Year's Eve, and this time of the year, the staff preys on my giving nature. They now I get so wrapped up in giving back during the holidays that I forget to make time for myself and watch all these meaningless bowl Games. There were 47 last year. @ least we're going in the right direction. There's only 41 bowl games this year and we're going to play a little game. Bowl or baloney, I did not watch the game last night that included usc. I'm out. Can't wait for the College Football Playoff. Love college football. You ready to.
Jason McIntyre
Roll? So last year I had tears in my Eyes at some of these. Let's see if you could do. Do it.
Colin Cowherd
Again. All right, here we go. Throw it out.
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There. Sunoco 67 Oil.
Colin Cowherd
Bowl. That's a bull. I think that is a.
Podcast Host/Announcer
Bull. Wait, come.
Jason McIntyre
On. Six, seven. You know the six, seven thing with the kids? That's why.
Freddie Prinze Jr.
They. Yeah.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah. Oh, oh, oh. I got burned. Okay, okay, okay. Next up. Next up, Bucked.
Fox Sports Radio Announcer
Up. L. A bowl hosted by.
Colin Cowherd
Grog. Okay, it's too weird to be fake. That's a bowl game. Okay, it is. That's a real. But there's no way our staff is clever enough to come up with that. I don't even know what bucked up.
Jason McIntyre
Is. I like the logo either, but Gronk hosted.
Colin Cowherd
It.
Podcast Host/Announcer
Wow.
Colin Cowherd
Okay. All right. So there we. There we.
Fox Sports Radio Announcer
Go. Sheridan Hawaii.
Colin Cowherd
Ball. Okay, that. Is the Sheraton still a hotel, honestly. Is it? I. I'm gonna say there's no way. Yeah. Again, the logo looks too good to be fake unless it's AI generated. I say that's a real. That's a.
Freddie Prinze Jr.
Bowl.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah. Okay, okay, okay. All.
Urban Meyer
Right. All.
Colin Cowherd
Right, next up.
Fox Sports Radio Announcer
Denny's. Moon over Miami. All American.
Colin Cowherd
Boy. That is a baloney fake. All right. We're.
Urban Meyer
Right.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah. You had me until Moons over Miami. If you didn't just stick with Denny's, I would have been City bowl way. Motor City Bowl. No, it's too. It's too soon for the Waymo. I'm just starting to drive them. Six months ago. That is baloney. That's.
Urban Meyer
Fake.
Colin Cowherd
Nice. All.
Jason McIntyre
Right. Waymos are awesome, by the.
Colin Cowherd
Way. They are. They are great. Very.
Fox Sports Radio Announcer
Cool game above sports.
Colin Cowherd
Ball. I'm telling the radio audience. All I can tell you is that logo is really good. So I'm gonna say that is a bowl. Yeah, we're right on that one. That's real.
Fox Sports Radio Announcer
Okay. Tick tock Talkie Siesta.
Colin Cowherd
Bowl. Tick tock Talkies. I mean, the absurdity Baloney. That. That's baloney, not bull. That's.
Jason McIntyre
Fake. By the way, have you had Takis? My kids love them. I've.
Colin Cowherd
Never. I don't even know what a talkie is. A walkie talkie. Okay, go.
Fox Sports Radio Announcer
Ahead. Snoop Dogg Arizona bowl presented by Gin and.
Colin Cowherd
Juice. I call me nuts, but Dave Portnoy bought a bowl. Kimmel bought a bowl. I say that's a bowl. I say that's a bowl. It is. I've seen celebrities buy bowls.
Jason McIntyre
Bowls. My friend was involved in this, so I knew that.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah. Gin and juice. Is that a Snoop Dogg.
Jason McIntyre
Drink? Is that his classic Snoop Dogg song.
Colin Cowherd
Yes. Okay.
Fox Sports Radio Announcer
Okay. Morton Salt and Sugar.
Colin Cowherd
Bowl. Morton's doesn't advertise. No, salt doesn't advertise. You have to have salt on everything. You don't need to.
Jason McIntyre
Advertise. Wow, that's.
Colin Cowherd
Deep. I mean, I was like butter. You never see a. I guess there's butter ads. I'm gonna say.
Jason McIntyre
Baloney.
Colin Cowherd
Nice. Yeah, that's fake. All right. 41 Xbox Bowl. Again, great.
Jason McIntyre
Logo. Yeah, there's not even a football there. It's just like that controller. Come.
Colin Cowherd
On. I think that's a bull. That's a bull. Wow, we are hot. I mean, if I missed one yet. Yeah, it's too bad I'm not gonna watch any of these, because I'm like. I think I'm 11 in a row.
Fox Sports Radio Announcer
Okay. JLab, Birmingham.
Colin Cowherd
Ball. Oh, I think that's real. I think they were a former advertiser. That's absolutely real. Yeah, that's a real. That's a real. JLabs got good EarPods. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely.
Fox Sports Radio Announcer
Real. Days in do not disturb.
Colin Cowherd
Terrible. First of all, that logo. The marketing director should get canned. If that's the real logo, there's a door with a do not disturb handle on it. That's funny. I'm saying that's.
Jason McIntyre
Baloney. Okay, what was the last time you said it? A days inn, like, 35 years.
Colin Cowherd
Ago. No, I've stayed. No, I've stayed. It. Hampton.
Jason McIntyre
Inn. Come on, you coastal.
Colin Cowherd
Elitist. Hampton's in. A year and a half ago. Two years ago. Day. Absolutely. Okay, dude, if you're by the airport and I gotta get out of town, doesn't matter. Okay, okay, here's the last. This is the last.
Fox Sports Radio Announcer
One. Spirit Airlines, group of five.
Colin Cowherd
Ball. I think they went belly up. I. I don't even think. Is that an airline anymore? Oh, gosh. Spirit Group of five. Bull. The logo you got. I'll say this, you guys. Our graphics department is putting the work in, so I think I've got 15 right in a row. I'm gonna say that's baloney. That's not a bowl. We got it right now. Which one did I miss? I missed the first one. I don't even remember what it.
Jason McIntyre
Was. I think Tick Tock Talkies was the best one. That is.
Colin Cowherd
Genius. So there were 47 last year. Down to 41. I. Oh, okay. So there. Here's the one I got wrong. That look. That's a. I didn't. I didn't get the whole 6, 7 thing. For the record. Could somebody explain that to.
Jason McIntyre
Me? What is Nobody can explain it to you. No, nobody.
Colin Cowherd
Knows. I mean, the kids don't know. It's a big, it's just, it's just out.
Jason McIntyre
There. It's just a thing. It's culture right.
Colin Cowherd
Now. Okay, so we've got bowl game tonight, Ohio State. I think everybody feels the exact same way, unless you're a Hurricane fan. Ohio State wins just a little. Too much offense, too good defenses, 2113, 2110. It's in that the odds are right. The Raven Steelers is interesting because if Mike Tomlin wins, he'll be celebrated. Think about that. If he wins, everybody's going to go. 42 year old quarterback, no DK Metcalf, no Washington, no dependable run game. Mike Tomlin deserves a contract extension. If he loses, he's going to get beat up. Right. It's going to be ugly. We don't know if Lamar Jackson is going to play. Here is John Harbaugh on that.
Urban Meyer
Question. There was improvement throughout the week. I mean, it was, it was not good at all early in the week and it improved as the week went on. And that was, that was cause for, you know, optimism. I think the fact that we have a lot of confidence in Tyler is a real big positive, a real plus. But it doesn't factor into whether Lamar plays. If Lamar is ready to go, he's playing. That's it for.
Colin Cowherd
Sure. He practiced today, so. And there's, there's stories that Lamar wants to play in Miami. There are, there was an NFL general managers that says Minnesota would be the play. He's won 75% of his games eight years. This could be a seventh playoff appearance. I think sometimes you just got to say thank you for the effort. He's got a massive cap hit next year, which limits what they can do, but they draft pretty well. So it's just been a weird year. It's, you know, practice doesn't practice. I saw a stat during. It could have been Sunday Night Football or Thursday Night Football. They were talking about how last year top speed was 15 and a half miles an hour and this year it's less than 11. So he's not as fast, not as twitchy. And you know, it's. This league's brutal. I had a lot of conversations for years with Michael Vick when he was at Fox just about that. And he's like, you know, the first high school, college in your first three years in the pro, you know, you can, you can, you can make a lot of hay. But he goes, you'd be amazed how often, you know, you think you can run over a safety in high school or college and then all of a sudden you try to run over a safety. Forget a linebacker, forget a defensive end, just try to run over a safety a couple times in the NFL and it's just not the same. And you just take, you know, a couple hit pointers, break a toe, all of a sudden your shoulders always hurt. NFL just beats you up. So I'm excited. Tonight I the College Football Playoff. We have the eight best teams and college football is, is, I think it was the first sport. Baseball and college football were the sports I initially fell in love with. And NFL's just kind of taken over everybody's life. But I can't wait for these games. Vanny getting beat by Iowa, Illinois beat Tennessee. What happens if the Buckeyes, Indiana, Oregon over the next two days all win? And those aren't the tick tock talkie Siesta Bowl, I'll tell you that. What are you reaching for? If you're a smoker dipper, you could be reaching for more with Zyn Nicotine pouches. When you reach for Zyn, you're reaching for 10 satisfying varieties and two strengths for a smoke free, spit free option that lets you lean into good times instead of stepping away for Premier rewards, chances to break free from your routine and a unique nationwide community. Whatever you're reaching for, reach for it with America's number one nicotine pouch brand. Find your Zinn Zyn. Wherever nicotine products are sold near you, this product contains nicotine that's an addictive chemical. Hi, it's Colin from the Colin Coward podcast. I've been around long enough to know quality when I see it, or in this case, when I taste it. Tito's Handmade vodka. Good stuff. No flash, no gimmicks. Smooth, clean tasting, made the right way. Tito's made in Austin, Texas. Real attention to detail. I like to keep it simple. Tito's Soda, one lime, lot of ice. Refreshing, easy. Summer, winter, spring. Totally versatile. Always works. Listen, baseball season's here. The perfect time to kick back with some Tito's. It's what I pour. You should too. Distilled and bottled by 5th Generation Inc. Austin, Texas. 40% alcohol by volume. Savor responsibly. People talk a lot about athletes performance, but what about your own? QuestHealth.com can help you understand where your health stands. With Quest, you can buy your own lab tests online, no doctor visit required. Quest has a huge selection of lab tests for everything from fitness to heart, health and more. Just buy a test online and visit a nearby quest location for sample collection. You'll get fast results online, and for a limited time, you can save on select lab tests@questhealth.com use the code HERD10 at checkout. Terms apply on Fox 1 now.
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December 31, 2025
In this compelling episode of The Herd, Colin Cowherd is joined by former college football coach and Fox Sports analyst Urban Meyer to break down looming College Football Playoff matchups and discuss the notable shift in conference power from the SEC to the Big Ten. They analyze coaching legacies, game strategies, and why certain powerhouse programs are underachieving. The episode also features playful moments involving bowl game trivia and closes with Cowherd and Jason McIntyre talking NFL coaches and playoff races.
[03:27-05:23]
“Kyle is a guy that is 66 going on 56... his football acumen, I would say, is as good as anyone I’ve ever been around.”
—Urban Meyer (04:49)
[05:23-08:28]
[08:34-13:29]
Colin predicts Indiana will beat Alabama, calling Indiana “the second best team in the country.”
Urban emphasizes Indiana’s unprecedented talent and QB Mendoza as the X-factor:
Big Ten vs. SEC:
“It’s an amazing thing to say.”
—Urban Meyer (13:20)
[09:54-12:10]
“USC shouldn’t lose.”
—Urban Meyer (11:52)
[13:37-15:05]
[15:05-18:27]
[18:27-19:39]
[33:47-40:32]
[24:15-30:20; brief highlights]