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Thanks for listening to the Herd podcast. Be sure to catch us live every weekday on Fox Sports Radio at noon to 3 Eastern, 9am to noon Pacific. Find your local station for the herd@foxsportsradio.com or stream us live every day on the iHeartRadio app by searching Fox Sports Radio or FSR. Thanks for listening to the Herd podcast. Urban Meyer around the corner. Pretty light weekend of college football. Next weekend's better. J. Mac with the news.
Matt Jones
No, no, no. Turn on the news.
Colin Cowherd
This is the hardline news. You want a college football winner, buddy?
Jason McIntyre
Yeah.
Colin Cowherd
Miami Hurricanes -17 against USF. USF just took down the Gators and they're still celebrating at usf. I think Miami smashes them. Anyways, let's move on to the first story. Colin that's CD Lamb, who appeared in the Blazin 5 for the first time in his life. He had a rough pff. Credit him with four drops, the most since Najee Harris in 2021 and the most by a wide receiver since Jerry Judy in 2020. Wow. Lamb talked about how the drops impacted him. Going back to my fundamentals, I know what it is. I know what to do. Again, it's game one. We got 16 more of these. That's just again the competitor that I.
Jason McIntyre
Am and how much I treat to.
Colin Cowherd
The game as far as being honest.
Jason McIntyre
And just giving it everything I got.
Colin Cowherd
Because I do love this. I love this game, the sport. I love the guys that I do it with. So as for me just holding my.
Jason McIntyre
End of the bargain, he is the last thing I worry about with the Cowboys. He's all good and I and you. I mean George Pickens is talented, but you can see the gap between CD Lamb and George Pickins when they're on the field together and who Dak trusts. And I guarantee you this is one of my bets. They are going to make a point of going back to CD Lamb. Over six and a half catches is one of my favorite bets of the week. I think they're going to really. Because listen, CD really is the Dak and CD right now are easily. Now that Mike has gone, the two most important players. Brian Schottenheimer needs to double down on Dak and CD Lamb at the home opener against the Giants.
Colin Cowherd
If I'm the Giants, I just try to take away CD Lamb. You know, I'll say, hey, Pickens going to beat us? Fine. You know, Jake Ferguson, Javante would go for it. I would do my best to take away CD Lamb. The Eagles could not do that. Colin, I think it's a smart bet. He had 13 targets in week one. I mean, should have easily had 10, 11 catches. Next up, let's go to my Jets. They were outstanding in week one. You could argue nobody looked better than the jets in defeat. Justin Fields had three touchdowns and Garrett Wilson, who had a good game but took that late hit from Jalen Ramsey that kind of cinched the loss. Wilson knows they're not done yet. And there's a lot more where that came from. This game is it rewards people that.
Jason McIntyre
Love it is the way I see it. He loves the game. He plays it the right way and has the right mindset. Every time it takes that field, you.
Colin Cowherd
Know, all the teammates, we.
Jason McIntyre
That's. That's contagious. Right.
Colin Cowherd
So when they're quarterbacks doing that, it's.
Jason McIntyre
Like you got no choice. I'm pop up after taking that. Yeah.
Colin Cowherd
I'm a.
Jason McIntyre
Whatever it may be because you see him do it. So. Yeah. I don't think that offense looks quite as amazing on the road against Buffalo.
Colin Cowherd
Huh. You sure about that? Were you impressed by Buffalo? They couldn't tackle Derrick Henry. I mean, I know he's a tackle.
Jason McIntyre
What is the. The rule of football if you win but play poorly in Buffalo defensively was. Did not play a good football game. I think the Bills are going to be sort of dialed in and you'd.
Colin Cowherd
Like them to cover as well.
Jason McIntyre
Six and a half. Well, it's a division game. I. I'd stay away from it. I. I think it's seven. I'd probably take the Jets. Six and a half. I'll stay away, but I think Buffalo wins. I think there's some scoring in this. I think it's kind of a 28, 21 game. If I got seven, I'd probably take the Jets. Probably seven and a half. I would definitely take the Jets.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah, I took a nibble of the jets just so I can have a rooting interest. I think it'll be a good game. I. I gotta be honest. Of all the units of the contenders, like, Green Bay looks awesome on both sides of the football. I thought the Buffalo defense was really, really bad, but as you said, they face the Ravens, who are a machine.
Jason McIntyre
Final story.
Colin Cowherd
Colin. We haven't mentioned his name in weeks. Shadur Sanders. So have you been following what's going on? Because reports indicate Shadour is not even leading the scout team offense.
Jason McIntyre
I know.
Colin Cowherd
That would be run by Bailey. Zappi Shador is getting no practice reps behind Flacco and Dylan Gabriel. We spent like the entire summer talking about this guy and now he's not even running the scout team. Colin.
Jason McIntyre
I know, it's crazy. I mean, it really is. I.
Colin Cowherd
Is it though?
Jason McIntyre
Well, yeah. I mean, I didn't think he was a great prospect. I thought Cam Ward was easily the Best product during the season.
Colin Cowherd
Everybody, not just us, everybody. I mean Daniel Jeremiah, who's the number one draft guy. Everybody loves Shadour during the season.
Jason McIntyre
Yeah.
Colin Cowherd
Everybody had him as a first round pick.
Jason McIntyre
Call it everyone. Yeah.
Colin Cowherd
He's not even running a scout team. On the Cleveland Browns. That is a bit of a drop off. So there's a bit of a disconnect here. Come on.
Jason McIntyre
Well, it tells me and I, one of the things that I remember when Drew Locke came into the league and I was like, I think he's trying too hard to be cool. That's a huge turnoff for me. Johnny Manziel had that like dude, you're not just, you're a rookie quarterback. Shador. 100 mile an hour, speeding ticket, legendary room. It's like gotta get your priorities at that position. You got to get them buttoned up by about 15 years old.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah.
Jason McIntyre
And I think, I mean seriously, it's unfair but there are certain professional professions like pilot. If I, you know, there's a lot of 26 year old pilots out there. I need you to be more mature than most 26 year old guys. Medical field surgeons. At 27, I needed to be more mature. You can't come up with a hangover. Quarterbacks, the 1 position in sports. It's kind of unfair. But I need you to be an adult by 22 years old. Like an adult making man decisions. And I think sometimes Shedeur comes in as silly and playful and I'm just, that's just a turn off to a lot of people.
Colin Cowherd
What if it's more, what if he's just not cut out to be an NFL player? Is that, is that possible?
Jason McIntyre
Well, I mean if, yeah, I mean.
Colin Cowherd
I mean forget the maturity. Just as a football player. Is it, is it possible? I mean every team passed on him multiple times. The Browns gave him a shot and now they're like eh, scout team. Let's bring in Bailey Zappi to run this guy. Like that's alarming.
Jason McIntyre
Yeah, yeah. I don't disagree.
Colin Cowherd
I don't know where he goes from here. I mean again this is a guy who was like in the Heisman mix. He was on tv, huge deal at Colorado. He's not running the scout team. Colin. I don't. Mentally that's going to be tough for him, man.
Jason McIntyre
Yeah, I, I, you know, in his college teammate Travis Hunter is nothing but talent. Like he is just unbelievable. But Travis didn't get the play that Shadour did in college. Some of it, you know, obviously the dad, but it is, I I don't remember ever there being a quarterback who the day before the draft, the people I trust, all of them publicly or privately, said, yeah, he may fall to mid second, late second, but he'd probably get drafted somewhere. And he is now in week two. Not even with the scout team. In my life that's never happened. Kenny Pickett wasn't good, but multiple teams gave him a shot.
Prop
Right, right, right.
Colin Cowherd
I mean Shador, remember this is a guy who was a starter at Colorado, a starter at Jackson State, a fairly big time recruit and that this has got to be tough for him. I just hope you know, hey man, stay grinding. Don't, don't lose the plot here. Stay focused. And that's going to for him and he's a young guy with money and fame and I just, I hope it turns out well for him.
Jason McIntyre
J. Mack with the news.
Colin Cowherd
Well, that's the news and thanks for stopping by the Herd lie news.
Jason McIntyre
The biggest one o' clock game and I mean Detroit hosting Chicago feels huge. Chicago can go 02. They got the Cowboys, the Raiders and a buy coming up. And I don't think this year we're judging the Bears on wins as much as we are. They've got to save this quarterback. The Lions have the Ravens next week. You go 02 into Baltimore, it's 03 and you got about 3% chance to make the playoffs. But I don't know, I mean I. You watched him, I watched him. All the data tells you Caleb struggling on overthrows, on the operations, pre snap, on accuracy, on the layups, Dave Wanstadt on if he believes Caleb can be saved by Ben Johnson. I think it's going to work because of the style of offense and head coach Ben said, Ben Johnson said afterwards, who I'm a fan of, he said afterwards, I should have run the ball more.
Matt Jones
They had 35 passes, only 20 runs.
Jason McIntyre
Okay, you know, so how do you help a young quarterback? Everybody knows that you take some pressure off them by running the ball into and then those play action passes. Yeah, it is. J. Mac, for the record, I don't know what the props are on Caleb Williams, but I also think this is important and I believe this to be true. Watch CD Lamb get a bunch of looks against the Giants and watch Swift and the run game for Chicago be really what Chicago tries to do. I think if you go look at that first series and that first game for Caleb, I think coach wants that talked about this. They threw the ball too much. So I honestly believe the under on Caleb's pass attempts. I Think they're going to come in, they're going to lean on physicality. I mean, they spent all that money on the guard, cuny, Drew Dahlman, the center and Jonah Jackson, and they didn't really use them. So my take is watch Chicago go into a heavy, heavy 35 carry run oriented performance.
Colin Cowherd
So the problem with that, Colin, is didn't Caleb start 10 for 10 and they look good early.
Jason McIntyre
Like they didn't run the ball at all though consistently. Minnesota did.
Colin Cowherd
So my big concern obviously with, with this Chicago team is they, they offense look fine early, the defense looked fine early. And then halftime happened and adjustments were made and Minnesota won the second half handily. I mean, the fourth quarter, like, imagine that snowball rolling downhill fourth quarter, you can't stop JJ McCarthy now. You've got to go to Detroit, play an angry Lions team coming off a loss and they look bad. You don't think golf and Amara St. Brown, everybody's locked in and they're going to steamroll this Bears defense. This could get squirrely. I mean, if we come in Monday and it's 35, 13 lions, I'm not going to be surprised. Would you be shocked if the bears lost by 20?
Jason McIntyre
I would, I would. I think. I think they're going to lose by a touchdown. It's funny because I had Tom Brady on yesterday and I asked Brady, I said, you know, my take on all these young quarterbacks that had seven on seven coaching, seven on seven camps and private coaching is that I give them until Thanksgiving, year two. I used to believe you give a quarterback three years, then you make a decision. To me, these guys have way more throws. Thanksgiving, year two, that's when I raised my hand, private room upstairs, gm, coach, coordinator, and say, it's not going to work. I asked Tom if that was fair.
Colin Cowherd
There's a lot of people who have.
Jason McIntyre
No idea what they're doing when they're.
Bucky Brooks
Tasked with coaching a quarterback or calling an offense. So are you saying, I mean, just like we'd rank quarterbacks 1 to 32.
Jason McIntyre
Do you rank offensive coordinators 1 to 32?
Colin Cowherd
What if you're a quarterback and you.
Jason McIntyre
Go to a system and they don't teach you coverage, they don't teach you cover one, they don't teach you cover two, they don't teach you cover four, they don't have personnel meetings, they give you an offensive game plan and they go, all right, bud, here you go. Figure it out. And after Thanksgiving, your second year, they're going, man, this guy just can't play anymore. The over under on pass attempts is 32 and a half. I take the under on that.
Colin Cowherd
If he's throwing 32 times, they're probably losing Colin.
Jason McIntyre
Well, here's the thing. He may have to over under throwing totals are tricky. I don't. That's not a prop bet. I.
Colin Cowherd
Well, wait a minute.
Jason McIntyre
Well, because if you trail, it changes the game plan. If you're down 14 late third, you're going to throw the ball six out of seven snaps and you don't want to.
Colin Cowherd
Well, 14 is not, it's not over at 14. I mean hell, the, the bills came back down 14. The Vikings were down I think 13. But don't you say if Jalen hurts has to throw over 30 times, the Eagles are in trouble. I think the same definitely applies to Caleb Williams. If he throw it 32 times, they're probably losing the football game.
Jason McIntyre
I mean. Well, think about how good Jalen hurts is, right? Since their bye the Eagles by last year, no team has thrown fewer passes than the Philadelphia Eagles with AJ Brown and Devontae Smith and Dallas Goddard. Think about that. As good as Hertz is and as great as the weapons are and it's the best pass blocking line in the league. Philadelphia with an offensive coach since they're by throws it fewer than any team in the league. And the point being is if you don't, you know, if you've got a quarterback that you like and he's athletic but you don't always love him in the pocket, the Eagles don't throw the ball.
Colin Cowherd
Okay, hold on, hold on. I would like our stat guys to strip out. Forget full game. I want to see first half when games are close. We know the Eagles were blowing out folks last year and so fourth quarter, they're not throwing any passes at all. They're just running and grinding clock. I want to see first half. Colin, are the Eagles throwing it less than everybody first? Maybe that's accurate. But again, fourth quarter Eagles last year, I mean they were, they were top three team in the league, you know.
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Hey, this is Matt Jones and I'm Drew Franklin and this is NFL Cover 0. We think NFL coverage informative and entertaining and twice a week, that is exactly what you're going to get. We're just here to try to give you an NFL perspective a little bit different. Did you see the Colts pretzel? That was my other big takeaway from that game. What was that? Looks like something that should not be sold. Oh, my.
Daniel Jeremiah
So that was my other big Colts takeaway.
Matt Jones
They sold that?
Daniel Jeremiah
Yes.
Matt Jones
Might want to go back to the Colts stadium.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah, I might want to go back.
Matt Jones
To the drawing board on that. Yeah.
Daniel Jeremiah
I thought the shape we had with pretzels was working pretty well.
Colin Cowherd
It's worked for generations.
Matt Jones
We're just here trying to enjoy it. We hope you all will join us throughout the year. And let's go. I hope I'm as youthful as Pete Carroll is at his age. He's a young 73. He is a young 73. He is spry, I would say.
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Prop
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Daniel Jeremiah
Hi, Colin.
Jason McIntyre
Hi. So you're doing the Oregon. You're there. Oregon's plan, Northwestern. I think you and I have talked about this. I always think there's about four college football programs. Ohio State, lsu, Georgia. I don't know if Bama is anymore with the nil, but I think Ohio State's in that class. I don't think Michigan is even with Harbaugh until the very end. They had an older group, but I think there's about three to four elite recruiters I Oregon. I never really thought of them even when they were winning the last five years. But I wonder if nil when you watch the tape of Oregon in the first couple weeks, has Oregon moved into with all that California national recruiting. Have they. If they. I mean, they've always recruited well, but not Ohio State or Georgia or lsu. Well, do you still think they're doing it mostly with a little less talent than three or four big dogs?
Prop
No.
Daniel Jeremiah
I agree with you that they are officially a blue blood team. In my mind, when you watch them play, the consistency and here's. And me and you've talked about this many times, Colin, their offensive and defense line are legit now. They were. We played the Oregon in the national championship in 2014. And I want to say they average just under 300 pounds on the offensive and defensive lines. Now it's almost 320 pounds. So they're finding the guys that. And once again, Colin, me and you've Talked about this 100 times, that the PAC12 for many years they just couldn't find the offensive and defensive alignment. That's the difference between them and the sec. They are officially now, in my mind, a blue blood. You stick them in the SEC and obviously the Big Ten, they're as good as any team in the country.
Jason McIntyre
So I was thinking about Ohio State and it's weird how this works. So you had success at Bowling Green and then Utah, but when you go to Florida and Ohio State, the pressure ramps up. I mean, talk radio, the newspapers, a million people at your practice, it's hard. But I did feel like when Ryan Day and the Buckeyes lost to Michigan, I remember that game. Next was Tennessee and I thought, boy, he's got to win this thing and he's got to win it impressively. From that point forward, the Tennessee game until today, it feels like to me that they're, they're different. It feels like as a coach, I guess I'd ask this question. When you won your natty at Ohio State or Florida, do you coach a little differently? Do you feel you can take a few more big swings because it validates your system, your program, or is that just media guys talking? But when I talk to Ryan and I look at Ohio State, there is confidence. There is no question. When I watch Ohio State now, I'm like, oh, that's currently the best college football program in America. And I, I didn't feel that pre. When that Michigan loss, I'm like, man, they shrunk. Is any of that land for you at all?
Daniel Jeremiah
It does. And I talk to Coach Day quite often and he does. He sounds like a different person. He's legitimate. You know, he's always been legitimate in my mind, but now the world's mind, he's Won a national title. There's very few guys that have done that. The difference with me, and I'm anxious to watch how he handles it because I think Kirby's handled it well. I've seen Nick Saban handled it well. I didn't, you know, everything. Once we won that first national title, it was like the pressure was unbelievable to repeat, repeat, repeat. And I don't. It remains to be seen as they continue through their journey with Coach Day and the Buckeyes. But I see a much different Coach Day. A much more relaxed, not relaxed, but much more confident. And it seems like people are off his back finally. And I mean, look at his winning one loss record. He's now a national championship coach. Here's the one issue that he's got to deal with at the end of the year, and that's the Wolverines.
Jason McIntyre
Yeah, Nick Saban said something this week, and we talked about it about a year ago on the show, is when the nil exploded. I had said this on the air. I said a lot of times in the south, your biggest or second biggest booster, because a lot of SEC schools do not have huge enrollment. I think Florida does, but a lot of them don't in that your first or second biggest booster in an SEC program could be a very, you know, a very successful car dealer. But if you look at Big Ten schools, we have 40,000 people. That's a lot of graduates. They go into the market. Bigger schools, bigger endowments. I mean, the richest guy in the world this week, Ellison, I think he's a. Is he a Michigan grad? Yeah, Larry Ellison's kid. I think it is. And I'm like, it's just a reality. You got Seattle in the conference now in the Big Ten. You got Phil Knight money. You got USC money. Penn State gets. Obviously, Ohio State's loading. Michigan's got massive endowment. And Saban said, we used to think we had a geographic advantage, we had more good players. But Saban said, I think the nil, the money advantage is the guys up north. Do you believe that? Is that what you're hearing?
Daniel Jeremiah
I read that quote from Coach Saban and I believe it. You know, I didn't. I. I think this has been a result that not many people expected, myself included, that it would only bring other conferences or the Big Ten on level with the sec. There's many, including myself right now, said they are better than the SEC, which five, 10 years ago. There's no chance that's going to happen. So I think it is. And this is something that I Never thought through until recently. Like, wait a minute, he's right. That these big, you know, Columbus, it's endless. The amount of money that you can get, that you have Detroit right next to Ann Arbor. You know, the one school of State College is out there by themselves, but they have Philadelphia and Pittsburgh. So I think there's a lot to it. You know what's funny is one of the coaches once said is that SEC used to pay players. Now everybody pays players. So I'm not saying that happened, but that's what they were saying.
Jason McIntyre
Yeah, well, that's what I'm saying, so I'll say it. Okay, So I saw something this week. I love Sark. I really do. I think he's great. But Arch Manning's playing in the game, and I saw him wince during the game. And my take is football players wince all the time. You know what I mean? You get hit, you wince. But one of the reporters came out and said to Sark, one of your players kind of wins during the game. And Sark kind of got. You know, he kind of got after the guy, and he got. And I thought to myself, listen, man, before you win that, Natty, there's a lot of pressure at Texas, I would argue the toughest job in college football, take coaches out. Maybe quarterback at Ohio State and quarterback at Texas. And I. I feel like with Sark, it has a lot of donor money. And when you watch Sark kind of get riled up at that press conference, do you think he's feeling a little bit of pressure?
Daniel Jeremiah
I do. I think it comes with that job. And I feel. I feel the same about Sark as you do. So much respect for that guy. But I kind of saw that interaction with the reporter, and I wondered why, you know, if that's a legitimate question, if he's hurting, then just tell him. Hurt it. If he's not. So, you know, he's fine. But I don't. So there. I don't know if there's something behind door number two with that. I saw the same thing on video. But you're right, you know, players wince all the time. But, you know, I do believe that was a legitimate question. You know, is your quarterback hurt? Because I actually heard that from someone at Fox to say, yeah, he's a little dinged up. But, you know, I didn't see that during Ohio State game because they ran them quite a bit. So, yeah, I don't understand that interaction. And maybe there is something there.
Jason McIntyre
Finally, Bryce Underwood's the Real Deal. But Oklahoma's got More juniors and seniors. Oklahoma's got a great quarterback. Oklahoma was the much better team. How much? Final question. When you have a star quarterback as a freshman right out of high school, would you be worried that you, how much can you just let him play or would you still kind of feel like, hey, he's a kid, he's going to learn. I don't want to put him out to the wolves. What would you do if he had Bryce Underwood and your Michigan?
Daniel Jeremiah
He's going to be great. You know, I just, I even said that on Big Ten Network. I say pump the brakes. He's going to be fine. Freshman quarterbacks don't go into Norman, Oklahoma and coach and play against a Brett Venables defense. I've tried that with veteran quarterbacks. He's that good of a defensive coach. You put that on the road in nor and against great players at Oklahoma, which they look like a much better team. What did you think was going to happen? That's going to happen. It's not his job to go win that game. You know whose job it is. It's the other players around him and they didn't step up. Don't, don't put this one on Bryce Underwood. Put them on the, on the defense and the rest of the offense. You know, where was the run game? You can't say that the quarterback lost that game or that freshman quarterback is going to struggle in that game. Everyone else has got to elevate. They didn't do it.
Jason McIntyre
It Urban Meyer on a Friday. We're going to be getting Urban on Friday's lot and I absolutely love it. It's great seeing you and have fun tomorrow. I may just stop by Evanston, just up the road from where we're at right now. Coach, thanks.
Daniel Jeremiah
Beautiful setting here in Northwestern.
Jason McIntyre
Oh, it is absolutely stunning. And with that, we take a break. J Mac returns for his picks of the week next. Be sure to catch live editions of.
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Hey, this is Matt Jones and I'm Drew Franklin and this is NFL Cover Zero. We think NFL coverage should be informative and entertaining and twice a week. That is exactly what you're going to get. We're just here to try to give you an NFL perspective a little bit different. Did you see the Colts pretzel? That was my other big takeaway from that game. What was that? Looks like something that should not be sold. Oh, my.
Daniel Jeremiah
So that was my other big Colts takeaway.
Matt Jones
They sold that?
Daniel Jeremiah
Yes.
Matt Jones
Might want to go back to the Colts stadium.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah, I might want to go back.
Matt Jones
To the drawing board on that. Yeah.
Daniel Jeremiah
I thought the shape we had with pretzels was working pretty well.
Colin Cowherd
It's worked for generations.
Matt Jones
We're just here trying to enjoy it. We hope you all will join us throughout the year. And let's go. I hope I'm as youthful as Pete Carroll is at his age. He's a young 73. He is a young 73. He is spry.
Jason McIntyre
I wouldn't fight him.
Matt Jones
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It's only Week 2 of the NFL season. The stakes are already rising. Bounce back performances. What to do with the Dolphins Patriots underachieved Miami New England. Nope, I didn't pick it. J. Mack didn't either. Are you ready for tomorrow's headlines?
Colin Cowherd
Let's rock and roll, buddy.
Jason McIntyre
Yeah, I think. I think we have one in common. All right, tomorrow's headlines. Today, let's make some NFL predictions. 49ers at the Saints. I'm surprised you took this game because the Niners, we don't even know. I mean, they got six starters that are banged up.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah, you know, not, not a great move by me. I, I like seven games on the board. So this was kind of a late addition, but I'm rocking with my guys. The headline for 49ers versus the Saints will be I'm loving it. 49ers take bite into big Mack. Yes, I think Mac Jones. Listen, I'm not going to call him being the next Geno Smith or Baker Mayfield or Sam Darnold, but there is enough talent in Mac Jones that I think marry that. With Kyle Shanahan's offense and schemes, this could be a good performance for Mac Jones. Okay. Despite the injuries, I see Juwan Jennings not practicing. Obviously. Kittle out. I think Mac Jones is going to be able to move the football. Do you remember when Kyle Shanahan had a backup named Nick Mullins? He showed up and it was like, who's this guy? Yeah, Shanahan can do that. Kevin o'. Connell. These great coaches can find backups to come in and dominate. And oh, by the way, Saints offensive line still beat up. They did not show well last week. Colin, I just punched into one of your favorite search machines. ChatGPT. How has Alvin Kamara done Against the Niners defense. Here we go. Three games. Last three games. Eight carries, 15 yards, seven carries, 13 yards, 13 carries, 25 yards. Do you sense a theme? He's not going to be able to run a lot against Salah and company Give me the Niners here on the road.
Jason McIntyre
Tomorrow's headlines today. This was a stay away game to me. Lot of emotion though. Bears at the Lions. A man with courage. J Max going to make a pick.
Colin Cowherd
Listen though, week two is big. Don't overreact to what you saw in week one. We liked the Lions coming into the season. We didn't love them, but we liked them. Now everybody's selling the headline for Lions. Bears will be rolling in the deep dish. Ben and Caleb can't top the charts. I'm so get that graphic. Just outstanding work. I like Detroit here. Colin, I'm sorry. Everything that I see about Goff's history against the Bears, he's won five of six, put up some really good numbers in the process. I didn't see anything overwhelming from the Bears especially in the fourth quarter stopping JJ McCarthy which they couldn't that I think they're going to be able to now go on the road in the indoor fast track and slow down a Detroit team. Colin, you know the Lions are going to be fired up. Amara St. Brown, we had the clip in her line this week. He's like cursing. We're taking down Ben Johnson. This is a big, big game for the Lions and at home I like Goff and Co. And this could get away from Caleb and Ben. Over under Tyson Bagent. Fourth quarter passes thrown. Colin, if this is a blowout, give me the Lions here comfortably.
Jason McIntyre
Tomorrow's headlines today I think we'll get agreement on this. Eagles at the regressing Chiefs.
Colin Cowherd
So I'm working with the producers, you know, during the week they're like, jay, we need one more. I'm like, I can't decide. Let me go big. Colin. The headline for Eagles Chiefs will be under the feather birds give Chiefs the football flu. Oh yeah. Philadelphia Eagles get the win. Colin, I've been consistent on this all summer. I didn't like what I saw from Kansas City at the end of last season. I know they got lucky in the one score games 11 and oh but they came out against the Chargers pretty flat and I just, I don't know where the talent is. Is you give me worthy, yes or no? It doesn't really matter. I don't think they've got enough dudes. I don't like the offensive line and let's be real. Jalen Carter will return. Everybody's reaction Colin from Eagles Cowboys was Eagles Eagles defense didn't look good. They couldn't slow down Dak. What's going on?
Jason McIntyre
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Colin Cowherd
Jalen Carter maybe their best defensive player was out for the entire game. So now you put him in the middle and suddenly Nolan Smith off the edge who looks real bendy. I think the Eagles are now listen Kansas City probably comes out hair on fire.
Jason McIntyre
Yep.
Colin Cowherd
Coming back from Brazil get to early lead. Come on And I think the Eagles come back and beat him and I got Philly winning in Casey 02.
Jason McIntyre
Tomorrow's headlines today. This will be a hard game to stomach regardless of the outcome. Not exactly TV magic Panthers at Arizona I think I this was the one game this was the my last pick that I dropped so I liked Arizona in the spot. This was my last. This was my sixth now my sixth pick last week was the Vikings Monday night Football over the Bears. That was right this I liked Arizona here but it didn't make the cut.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah, no, I could understand that. I mean hell, very few people are interested in the Carolina Panthers and Arizona didn't look great last week. However, the headline for Arizona Carolina will be Bryce Crispy treatment. Snap, crackle and drop. Listen man, Colin. They came out against a Jacksonville defense that was bad last year and they couldn't do a damn thing. Then you get like the lightning delay which really delayed things and they couldn't do anything much after that. Colin, I'm not selling Bryce Young. I know some people who know him. He's a great guy. Remember you sat next to him on a flight. I like this kid a lot. I just don't like this team. And Arizona did not look great putting away New Orleans last week. That being said, big revenge spot. Remember last year in December Arizona went to Carolina and they were Arizona was in the mix for a playoff spot and they really had two turnovers that killed them. Carolina won in overtime and that kind of ended their season. I think Arizona gets revenge here. Kyler Murray was ill last week and looked it took five sacks. I think I think they're fine. I think Arizona in Fantasy Survivor load up they get to win here.
Jason McIntyre
Finally tomorrow's headlines today this was another game. I think I know where you're going on this and I think think this could be your strongest pick. Bucks at Texans.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah, this is a big one. I I like Houston a lot here. The headline for Texans Tampa Bay on Monday night will be bucked around and found out tall Texans teaching lessons. I Like the Houston Texans to bounce back here. The injury report isn't as bad as it appeared against the Rams. Remember last week they had some guys beat up Houston's good man and I, I talked about some of the stats this week. Tampa Bay gave up over 190 yards after the catch against Atlanta. Okay, Nico Collins. A company could be feasting this week. I didn't like what I saw in Tampa despite the win over the Falcons and I'm lower than market on Tampa this season. I think Houston's defense really annihilates Tampa. By the way, Tristan Wurf's Colin is practicing so that's a potentially good sign. They're going to need him against Will Anderson. And by the way, will Anderson & Co. That defense is not far behind Denver. So I'm on the Texans minus two and a half. This will definitely touch three by kickoff. I like the Texans to win.
Jason McIntyre
Yeah, I like your picks a lot. Now you're making me feel like I should have taken Panthers Cardinals.
Colin Cowherd
Well, I, I probably should have dumped Denver in there as well. I like your Denver pick. I like Atlanta against Minnesota.
Jason McIntyre
I'm surprised you didn't take the Titans against the beat up Rams.
Colin Cowherd
Well listen, this is wins and I did pitch that and they were like well we don't want to just talk spread. I did bet that obviously but I don't know that the Titans win outright.
Matt Jones
Right.
Colin Cowherd
So yeah, I'm on Titans as well.
Jason McIntyre
All right. You and you and the staff battling.
Colin Cowherd
You know Colin, this could be a multiple jet ski weekend for both of us. I like our picks a lot, man.
Jason McIntyre
Yeah, no it's, yeah, I, I, you know I'm doing occasional, I won't do it every week maybe but I'm doing occasional props now because I just think people are betting props. I started looking in the off season. It just you know, I people how much they bet props and over unders and that's like, like a big part of what people like to bet. And I also think it's harder to hit on a lot of picks because the, the market's gotten more sophisticated. I think people out there watching us and fans are just better, smarter betters than they've ever been. The lines are tougher. I actually think there's only one line this week I thought was weird and I thought the Titans getting five and a half was a weird line. I would have guessed that would have been like three to three and a half. So that, that's why I made the pick. I'm like that feels like a not A mistake by Vegas, but a very better friendly pick to me.
Colin Cowherd
Well, let's see what's up with the Rams injuries to the offensive line. Big Friday's a big practice day. I noticed you didn't do Seahawks and. And Steelers. That's a, to me, fascinating game. I like Seattle, but a lot of other people seem to like Pittsburgh.
Jason McIntyre
I think Pittsburgh, because I think Mike Tomlin was humiliated by that defensive effort. And Seattle doesn't have much of an offense anyway. Seattle is one of those teams that has kind of one way to win. Run the ball, keep the score low. They don't have a number one receiver, so Seattle has one way to win. And Pittsburgh humiliated by their defensive effort. I think this is a tough, physical 23:20, low scoring game, but I. I don't know who wins, but I don't think there's going to be a lot of points. And with that, we are done. Urban Meyer stopped by. Tom Brady this week stopped by Dave Wanstadt. How good was that? All that info on the bench and the packers and the Dolphins. We'll see you Monday. It's the Herd.
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Episode: Hour 3 – Urban Meyer Talks Ohio State's Hot Start, Tomorrow's Headlines Today!
Date: September 12, 2025
Podcast: The Herd with Colin Cowherd (iHeartPodcasts and The Volume)
This episode features an insightful mix of NFL and college football discussion, with a focus on Ohio State’s strong start to the season. The highlight is an in-depth conversation with former Ohio State and Florida coach Urban Meyer, who evaluates the Buckeyes, recruiting trends, and challenges in the modern college football landscape. The episode wraps with Colin Cowherd and Jason McIntyre’s weekly NFL predictions segment—“Tomorrow’s Headlines Today”—offering sharp analysis and playful banter about the most intriguing matchups.
CD Lamb’s Week One Drops (03:05–04:41)
Jets/Bills Preview & Garrett Wilson’s Role (04:41–06:45)
Shedeur Sanders’ Sudden Decline (06:46–10:31)
(Lightning, rapid-fire analysis and predictions for Week 2 NFL games, with signature headlines for each)
49ers at Saints
Bears at Lions
Eagles at Chiefs
Panthers at Cardinals
Bucks at Texans
Betting Discussion
On CD Lamb’s Resilience
“He is the last thing I worry about with the Cowboys...they are going to make a point of going back to CD Lamb. Over six and a half catches is one of my favorite bets of the week.” — Colin Cowherd (03:55)
On Shedeur Sanders’ NFL Struggles
“Quarterbacks—the one position in sports...it’s kind of unfair, but I need you to be an adult by 22 years old, like an adult making man-decisions.” — Colin Cowherd (08:13)
On Oregon’s Status as a Blue Blood
“They are officially now, in my mind, a blue blood...you stick them in the SEC...they’re as good as any team in the country.” — Urban Meyer (22:09)
On NIL and Big Ten Recruiting
“This is something that I never thought through until recently...these big, you know, Columbus, it’s endless. The amount of money that you can get...it is a lot to it.” — Urban Meyer (26:14)
On Young QBs & Pressure
“Once we won that first national title, the pressure was unbelievable to repeat, repeat, repeat...But I see a much different Coach Day...much more confident...it seems people are off his back finally.” — Urban Meyer (24:13)
On Rookie QB Expectations
“Don’t put this one on Bryce Underwood. Put them on the defense and the rest of the offense...freshman quarterbacks don’t go into Norman, Oklahoma and play against a Brett Venables defense.” — Urban Meyer (29:03)
On Betting and NFL Parity
“I think people out there watching us and fans are just better, smarter betters than they’ve ever been. The lines are tougher.” — Colin Cowherd (41:43)
| Timestamp | Segment | |------------|-------------------------------------------------------------| | 03:05–04:41| CD Lamb’s drops / NFC East discussion / betting props | | 06:46–10:31| Shedeur Sanders' NFL turbulence & QB maturation talk | | 21:06–30:02| Urban Meyer interview (Ohio State, NIL, Oregon, Texas, QBs) | | 34:20–41:07| Tomorrow’s Headlines Today: NFL predictions & analysis | | 41:43–42:44| Betting strategy discussion / line value observations |
This episode of The Herd draws on compelling voices—especially Urban Meyer’s insider take—to paint a vivid picture of the forces shaping today’s college and pro football. Colin and Jason’s signature “headlines” segment keeps the analysis sharp, accessible, and fun, mixing strategic depth with bets and bold predictions. From Ohio State’s hot start, the new NIL reality, to NFL matchups, the conversation is richly detailed, candid, and peppered with quotable analysis—making this essential listening for any football fan.