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The Herd with Colin Cowherd
THE HERD – HOUR 3 – Yamal v Mbappe, Kane v Messi, Derek Jeter: ABS Making Baseball Better
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Derek Jeter
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Ben Maller
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio All
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Colin Cowherd
Star Game coming up Tuesday. Jacob Misarowski for Milwaukee clock this year throwing 105.5, which is not an oldies station in Las Vegas. It's, it's how fast the ball was going. He's not playing in the All Star Game. That is freaking gas. I can remember it being a kid. My favorite team in the 70s was Don Gullet and the Cincinnati Reds and they had a staff of a bunch of breaking ball pitchers and Clay Carroll and Fred Norman and Jack Billingham and J. Max rolling his eyes. But they had a guy named Don Gullet. Don gullet threw 95. That was gas. Everybody throws like 93 now. Like everybody throws 93. 105. I went and sat in a batting cage once and I cranked it up to 80 and I was fouling stuff off and I felt so alpha. I honestly felt like Greg Laszinski or Mike Schmidt. I was like Dave Parker. I was like, man, I just missed that puppy. I was going to pull that thing into left field. 105. So that would be 35 miles an hour faster than the 80 miles an hour I faced in a batting cage. And I knew where that ball was going and it made me nervous. 10 fought, you know, I was a, I was a played Little League. I had a pretty good slitty, but not 105, not 105. J. Mac with the news. No, no, no, turn on the news.
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Ben Maller
This is the Herd line news.
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Colin Cowherd
Horror scenery, you know, all that stuff.
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Alexi Lawless
Slitty Gullet, what are we doing? I don't even know what these words mean when I hear Gullet I think of that karate chop in wrestling back in the day, we just karate chop someone in the neck. Oh, they're down. But yeah. Anyways, let's go to. Let's go to the World Cup, Colin. Spain versus France. This one is tomorrow on Fox. And Lamine Yamal talking a little trash. Maybe if France should fear anyone, it's us. Now, a lot of this has to do with Spain beating France in their last two meetings.
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Tony Ayo
Yeah.
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Alexi Lawless
And just we've been talking about this for the record, this is with a full strength or nearly full strength France featuring Mbappe.
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Colin Cowherd
Well, and again, Spain style. Heavy on possession is the way to beat France. It doesn't guarantee anything. You've got to play a little keep away from. Then you have to have the technical skill and the athleticism and speed to play a little keep away from France. Spain can do it, but everybody knows that's the way to beat France. It hasn't helped so far.
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Alexi Lawless
Yeah, it's, it's interesting. This is your classic NFL battle, offense versus defense.
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Soccer Analyst
Right?
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Alexi Lawless
And usually people like to bet offense. Colin, I saw one stat. 79% of the bets are on France and the line is not moving. What does that tell you, my friend? I think we could see an upset here and really it's win, win for everybody. You get Mbappe Olise Dembele or you get Lamina Mol.
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Colin Cowherd
Who.
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Alexi Lawless
Yeah, kind of. I don't want to say he's been underwhelming because he's a teenager. He's 18, I think. I think he just turned 19. Maybe today or yesterday, whatever it. But I need to see a little more from the young fella. Okay. If you're being called one of the best players in the world, I need to see a little more. This could be the game he takes over. I think I'm picking Spain in this one. Colin.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah, he hasn't been bad. We're just waiting for him to. You know, Messi's been so good and Kane and Bellingham have been so good. Like there's a certain bar. It's not like he's been bad.
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Soccer Analyst
Yeah.
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Alexi Lawless
It's not like he's been Christian Pulisic.
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Ben Mather
Okay.
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Alexi Lawless
Against Belgium, we're not talking that level bad. Sorry, Christian, I just had to speak some facts. All right, Colin, let's move on to the next story. And that's NBA Summer league. And normally I would be so jazzed for the summer league, but it's a World cup summer. Now, you may have missed this Friday, but Caleb Wilson went head to head with Mr. Boozer. And again, remember, this happened in college. Wilson got the better of him. Caleb Wilson dropped 35 points, a record for his summer league debut for a rookie. He had seven threes.
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Derek Jeter
Yeah.
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Colin Cowherd
Now, he didn't shoot a lot of threes in college. So, you know, college is run by the coach. NBA is run by the players. So, you know, that wasn't North Carolina's offense. I'm not going to. But he came out chucking threes right out of the chute. So he wanted to make an impression. Let me tell you something. He hit seven threes in his entire college career. He had seven in that game. I got Bulls season tickets. The boys, the boys over here already lining up to get a few nights,
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Alexi Lawless
try to get in on that action. I'll just say this, Colin, he is a guy who remembers, you know, Tom Brady, remembers all the quarterbacks taken ahead of him. Caleb Wilson multiple times has talked about, hey, I went against Darren Peterson and everybody thought he was the best player, who was the best player on the court that night. And that was back in college. And the same thing happens against Boozer. I'm just. Caleb Wilson is that guy looks like he's the man. I know he's not going to hit seven threes every night in the NBA, but you have good reason to be excited. Boy, Chicago White Sox are playing good ball.
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Colin Cowherd
I'm.
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Alexi Lawless
I'm told the Bears were in the playoffs.
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Colin Cowherd
I. I told you. Now, Caleb Wilson, I am good. L. Clipper stunk. I moved to LA. McVay, Rams, Chargers move up the interstate. Dodgers are the greatest baseball franchise of all time. Almost.
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Derek Jeter
So it's. Wow.
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Alexi Lawless
I did not know. This is like a real thing.
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Colin Cowherd
Every. Every city I've moved to, teams get better.
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Alexi Lawless
True. Wow. He's just casually driving.
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Colin Cowherd
When I was in Portland, the Blazers were like facing the Lakers in the Western Conference finals. They haven't done zippo.
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Alexi Lawless
Was that with the Jailblazers, Rasheed Wallace and those guys?
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah.
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Derek Jeter
Yeah.
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Colin Cowherd
It was fun to cover. It was wild.
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Alexi Lawless
I bet. Yeah. All right, final story. Kyle, let's go to the NBA. And Joe Missoula, he is kind of. It sounds like he's mourning the loss of Jalen Brown, saying there needs to be a grieving process for losing a player and person like Jalen Brown. Missoula. I think he said it right. Like, listen, I know Boston fans are hurt. In the long run, I think they're going to be fine. But right now it's still a little bit of shock. I personally think that the Celtics know Hey, we're going to be just fine. But it stinks to lose a guy in the community like Brown again.
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Colin Cowherd
Maybe the Celtics made a big mistake. There have been teams, smart teams. The Clippers have really smart people in the front office. They let SGA go. And SGA is a tremendous human. He's a tremendous athlete. Yeah, so like, you know, James Harden left Oklahoma City and ended up being a superstar that didn't get a ton for him. Like, smart people make mistakes. It's okay. It happens in sports. J. Mac with the news.
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Ben Maller
Well, that's the news and thanks for stopping by the herd line news.
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Colin Cowherd
Do you know the only player to win an All Star Game MVP and a World Series MVP in the same season? It's our guest. Of the many remarkable numbers of his career, hall of Famer Derek Jeter, now with Fox Sports is joining us in the herd. We're lucky to get him. I got a couple questions for you. Of all, I told you this last time I saw you, the craziest number of your career isn't all the Gold Gloves and the World Series stuff. It's that you hit.481 in the all Star Game, which is like a beer league number. That's insane.
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Derek Jeter
A lot of, a lot of good fortune. A lot of. But hold on a minute. Before we get started, I just want to remind you. Well, first of all, you just said smart people make mistakes. Last time I was on your show, you asked me about facing Nolan Ryan. So let's just hope you got your facts straight this time. But the All Star Game, hey, let me tell you what. There's a lot of luck that's in there, but nothing better than playing in the All Star Game. And obviously I was fortunate to have some success. But you just enjoy. This is a celebration of the game, celebration of the sport. It's a great atmosphere here. What baseball's done over these few days, moving the draft here, just a celebration of the game. So I absolutely love being here.
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Colin Cowherd
So I got to ask you, Jacob Misarowski is not playing. He's banged up for Milwaukee. He threw 105.5. Now, I know you never stepped into the batter's box and were overwhelmed by a pitcher, but 105, I mean, 96 is heat. 105 is cartoonish. Take me back to your career. Were there pitchers, Derek, that you really even in the on deck circle, you'd faced them before. But it, it, you do feel like, man, I'm going to get one good pitch here. I got to get around on it. I mean, I don't know who it would be in their prime, but did you ever face somebody that threw so hard that even you would get in that box and know, man, I have got to be zoned in on every pitch?
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Derek Jeter
Yeah, I think, you know, when you start talking about guys like Randy Johnson, 6 foot 8, I mean, he's halfway to home plate when he releases the ball. So I don't really know how hard Randy was throwing, but you got to get the foot down, man. Roger Clemens, Pedro Martinez, when are you facing the elite pitchers, you literally have one pitch to do any, have any kind of success. So, Yeah, I mean, 105, it's, it's hard to imagine. You know, I don't know how they're recording the miles per hour nowadays, but yeah, I mean, that's, that's, that's something that, you know, you don't have much time. Obviously, when you're facing anyone but 105, you look for one pitch and hopefully you get it.
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Colin Cowherd
Okay. Your 98 Yankees won 114 games. And then you flew through the playoffs. You were 11 and 2. See, I know my home. I got my homework here. I got all these, all these numbers in my head.
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Derek Jeter
Don't pat yourself on the back till we finish, but go ahead.
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Colin Cowherd
So that's a, that's the, you know, in terms of, you know, numbers, that's the best team ever. This Dodger team is stacked. They just got swept by the D backs. So when you're on a great team, you're going to overwhelm a lot of people that starting pitching on the Yankees. When you are on a team like the Dodgers or your Yankees, Dodgers just back to back. World Series apathy. I. It's a long season. You're going to hear, here's another road trip to Minnesota. Here's another road. Go back to that season with you. Was there ever a moment where you went into a series thinking, I got to get myself up. We just swept those guys the last time we planned. Can there be apathy that settles in during the long regular season?
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Derek Jeter
I tell you what, you're talking about 1998, specifically. That group there had. We had just lost in 1997. So we were hungry to get back to the World Series. So in that particular season, we didn't really have to sit down and rally the troops. I mean, we were out to win every single day. I have never been a part of a group that had that mindset going into every single day. And, you know, we struggled a little bit. I mean, half jokingly, but we struggled towards the end of the year. I mean, we could have literally won about 130, 135 games that year. That's how dominant we were. But when you're talking about the Dodgers and a team that's going for their third straight World Series, look, the regular season is. It's a marathon. And there are times throughout the course of the year you got to try to block out just getting to the postseason because you know, everyone knows that's when the season starts. You look at the Dodgers now, they have such a big lead, so it is hard. It gets more difficult getting up for every game and every series, but they've done it as good as anyone.
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Ben Maller
Be sure to catch live editions of the Herd, weekdays at noon Eastern, 9am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, FS1 and the iHeartRadio app hey, it's Ben, host
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Ben Mather
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Ben Maller
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Colin Cowherd
You know it It's I've defended baseball. I keep saying the Rays lead the American League East. They're a small market. The White Sox small payroll have been great this year. Milwaukee for several years, smaller payroll been very viable. The Mets stink, so my Take is money matters. But it's just like in our life, money matters. But what do you do with it? Do you spend it? Do you invest? You're smiling there. The Mets do kind of stink. I know you're a broadcaster now, but it's not great. But the point is, I think we talk too much about money in baseball. The Dodgers really honestly needed two or three miracles to win game seven. I mean, Toronto outplayed him and out hit him in the Series. I think we talk too much about payroll disparity. Does it matter? Is it overstated?
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Derek Jeter
Well, you know, look, I don't think it's overstated. I do believe if you are spending money, you have a high payroll, for the most part. It assures that you're going to be competitive and you're going to be in a playoff race. Yeah, there's instances where you have guys or teams that spend a lot of money that just have one of those years, but I think it assures that you're going to be in the pennant race. What it does not assure you is that you're going to win a championship. It is hard to win a championship. You have to go through several rounds of the playoffs. And when you get. I used to say it during my career, the hottest team. I mean, the best teams make it to the postseason. The hottest team wins. You have to get hot at the right time. And yes, you need a lot of breaks, too. I mean, but there's a reason why the Dodgers, year in and year out, have that chance to win a championship, and it's because their owner spends money.
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Colin Cowherd
You know, I always thought part of the greatness of Joe Torrey is that he was a players manager. But I always compared him to the stepdad or dad you never wanted to disappoint, is that so much of his greatness was the ability to connect star players and the pressure you go through in New York. So the culture that Torrey created was as important as the great players like yourself. And I want to talk about the Mets. It's not a talent. I mean, Lynn Dore's been hurt. I know you're. I'll beat up on him. I'm taking shots I shouldn't. But it does feel like there's a cultural thing missing. It's not money.
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Alexi Lawless
It's.
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Colin Cowherd
They want to win. They've had smart people. There's something in the soup, in the juice or something. What is it that they have this kind of talent and they struggle.
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Derek Jeter
You know, I'm not exactly sure about that. I mean, The Mets were just in the NLCS a couple years ago, so it's not like they've fallen off cliff for the last 20 years. They've been very, very competitive this particular year, I mean, it's mind boggling. I mean, they've gone out, they've spent money. It just seems like a lot of times when one person struggles, everyone struggles. When one person gets hot, everyone gets hot. And it seems like, you know, you know, the Mets, they've, they've changed a little bit of their culture there. You know, you got rid of Alonzo and Nimmo and, you know, they brought some new guys in. Sometimes it takes a little time for guys to adjust, but I don't know enough about the inner workings of the New York Mets to comment on it, but it is a bit surprising because I know there was a lot of high optimism going into spring training. People thought the Mets were going to be in it to, you know, challenge the Dodgers and get to the World Series, but it just hasn't gone that direction.
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Colin Cowherd
So when an Aaron Judge gets banged up, Ben Rice steps up and puts up huge numbers. The Dartmouth kid. You know, I remember watching Ben Rice. Are we surprised or was this understood in the Yankees ecosystem that Ben Rice was going to end up being this.
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Derek Jeter
I don't know, you never want to put ceilings on guys when they're, when they're playing and when they're coming up. But I think, you know, the adjustments that he's been able to make this year and the production that he's had offensively, I think is probably caught a few people off guard. But he's, he's in the conversation for Most Valuable Player in the American League up until this point. And what he's been able to do even when Aaron's been out, has been pretty impressive. I mean, yeah, he went through a little time where he struggled, but that happens to every player over 162 games. But he's fun to watch. He continues to get better and better. And, you know, the thing I like to watch is he's having fun. He's got a smile on his face, he's enjoying himself. Hit another triple. I think it was yesterday. But he's a big reason why the Yankees. Yeah, I know they were scuffling a little bit, but he's a big reason why I still believe the Yankees are the favorite in the American League.
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Colin Cowherd
Okay, this ABS system, I have said for years now, Rob Manfred can take some crap on this stuff, Derek, but he has made four or five adjustments. They've all worked. They're all great. I thought the ABS would get a little bit of pushback and it would be what it's done. It's unveiled the truth. And, you know, it also shows me how well the batters know the plate. It's remarkable how often they do this. And within an inch in their right. If you would have had this, would you have used it a lot, or did you always feel like, yeah, the humps are pretty good. They know what they're doing.
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Derek Jeter
It's interesting. When I was playing, I felt as though I knew the outside corner as well as anyone. The inside corner would confuse me a little bit because sometimes I'd lean out there. But I think, you know, there's times throughout the season when you're seeing the ball well, extremely well, and you know what a strike is. And there's other times when you're scuffling a little bit. You have no idea. So we've seen guys challenge pitches, and pitches have been right down the middle. You've also seen guys that have. That have been successful, like, by an eighth of an inch. So I love it. I think the fans love it. I think it makes, you know, it's sort of bringing that type of tennis atmosphere into the game where they showed on the scoreboard. So, like you said, there's been some changes in the game that I think the fans really appreciate. And. And look, if it's going to bring more fans to the sport, then I'm all for it. But ABS has been a huge success.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah. I went to a Cubs game not long ago, and I got to tell you, the fans are into it. It's like an added element, a little bit of a game show within the game, and fans think it's great.
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Derek Jeter
And also shows you who knows the
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Colin Cowherd
strike zone, that it absolutely does. Okay, I was pretty good today. I got to admit it, Derek, I.
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Colin Cowherd
470 in the all Star Game. That's pretty strong. I got to be honest with you. I appreciate you.
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Derek Jeter
480 is what you said. Did you say 480 when we started this?
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Colin Cowherd
Oh, 481.
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Derek Jeter
Yeah. See, you screwed it up. There you go. You spoke too soon. There you go. Great job, Colin.
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Alexi Lawless
Great.
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Colin Cowherd
You know, the outside part of the plate and your all star number. Excellent work. Good seeing you, buddy.
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Derek Jeter
You, too. See you soon.
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Colin Cowherd
All right. The great Derek Jeter stopped by the show today. Isn't that ridiculous? He was 13 for 27. And that's facing, by the way, aces that you don't face normally. You're getting Randy Johnson stuff. You watch Randy Johnson highlights.
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Alexi Lawless
Never face these guys.
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Colin Cowherd
That's an insane number. I have a list of his career stats. I mean he's like six most hits all time and they're all great. 481 All Star Game average and a lot of times the All Star Game. If I recall, a lot of times you'd play in stadiums. You know it's Derek Jeters, one of the first guys up leadoff. Got you're getting shadows that first at bat in the All Star Game early. You may have shadows in the stadium. You're not seeing it. Bringing my A game today.
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Tony Ayo
All right.
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Colin Cowherd
Unbelievable. I got a buddy giving me crap about Jeter. He's got a good memory for certain things. I don't all I don't love all the memories, but it's very good memory. In Chicago at the Herd.
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Ben Maller
Be sure to catch live editions of the Herd, weekdays at noon Eastern, 9:00am Pacific.
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Colin Cowherd
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Colin Cowherd
Man, you know I'm gonna do NFL executives came out with the top 10 quarterbacks in the league. This was scout executive coaches. So this is a thorough opinion piece, you know, anonymously. But they and I'll for our radio audience, I'll just give you it's only only two of the 10 have won a Super Bowl. So you and I, you know, fans will say, well, they didn't win a Super Bowl. Justin Herbert's never won a playoff game. Dak Prescott's only one won playoff game. That's not how general managers look at it. That's the final result. It's the process, it's the season. It's your traits, it's your leadership. I think Dak Prescott is on this list overwhelmingly because of toughness, leadership, intelligence. I Don't think he's on here because he throws the prettiest football. He's not here because he wins playoff games. I think Justin Herbert leadership, toughness traits makes the list. So it's Allen 1, Mahomes 2, Stafford 3, Burrow 4, Lamar 5, DAC 6. Justin Herbert, Drake May, Jared Goff, Caleb Williams. I've always been a Goff fan. I don't have big problems. I think Sam Darnold's got to be in there somewhere. You know, what Is his record? 30, 39 and 6 or 36 and 9 the last, you know, two seasons. Overall, it's hard not to put him in there and has had great passer rating numbers. In terms of analytics, I don't really care. Are you great? Who? I always look at quarterbacks this way. Two possessions left. You got to score on both of them. Who do I want? You've got two. Don't have to have two touchdowns. You got to score on back to back possessions. At least one touchdown. There's a couple of minutes left. You're going to get two possessions. I'm going to get two great possessions. The other team knows you're throwing the football. The other team's going to bring a pass rush. You don't get the number one this or the number one that. You have a, you know, you have a good team, you have a good coach. Couple of possessions left. Can you make big plays? Allen would be my one. But I, you know, I look at this list right now, I'm not quite sure what to do with Lamar Jackson. I don't know. His legs had been a huge part of his career and he was slower last year. Joe Burrow can move and he's not making the playoffs, but I still think he's somewhere in the top seven or eight. Jalen hurts. I would not put him in the top 10. If you cannot see the middle of the field, I'm not putting you in. I think Brock Purdy's talented. Brock Purdy's got a durability issue. I'm sorry. So, you know, again, I think Caleb Williams should be higher. I probably move Drake May down a spot or two. I think Sam Darnold's got to be in your top 10. But if you ask players inside the NFL, so this survey didn't have players. It had coaches, GM scouts, executives. It didn't have players. Christian McCaffrey, who played with Sam Darnold earlier, had talked about, you know, the first couple of practices with Darnold when
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Christian McCaffrey
I first met him in Carolina from The jump. I was like, this guy's a. A dude. And the more and more you see him at practice, that you see the throws you make, you understand why he's a top pick in the draft. And then you're around him more, you're like, this is one of the best players I've been around, period. And it's because of how talent, talent, how talented his arm is. He's way more athletic than people give him credit for. And he's really good at taking what's given to him and doing his job.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah. So I'm just, I'm writing down now if you told me and I would consider everything, I would consider your traits, your ability late in games. Are you durable? Do I trust you with the football? You know, that was always the knock on Sam Darnold, like a little bit reckless. I loved Andrew Locke. He was reckless. Tom Brady threw a pick six in a Super Bowl. I don't like safe quarterbacks. One of the things that Darnold does, yards per attempt. I think he's first or second in the NFL the last several years. There is no dink and dunk to Sam Darnold. He is like Andrew Locke to a fault. He will throw it in traffic, he'll throw it downfield. Darnold has some stinkers, there's no question about it. And you could say, well, well, Darnold's had the last couple of years, Kevin o', Connell, Clint Kubiak. Tell me the great quarterback all time that didn't have a smart guy pulling the trigger in coaching. I mean, Dan Fouts had Eric Coryell, Joe Montana had Bill Walsh, Belichick and Brady, Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes, Don Shula, Dan Marino, Shanahan and Elway Staubach and Tom Landry. Find me the great quarterbacks with lousy coaches. Give me a break. Sam Darnold had back to back years that were Amazing with Kevin O' Connell and Mike McDonald. Mike McDonald's a defensive guy, young guy, and Darnold tore it up.
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Bretzky
So.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah. I just don't think the league quite knows what to do with Sam. I'm not saying Sam's top three quarterback in the league. Top 10 right now. He's in his prime. Remember, he entered the league very young. Sam's got about five more years of prime. He's a. In fact, I don't have the numbers in front of me. I think he's younger than a lot of guys on this list. You wouldn't think he is, but he is. Because the jets thing you know, it seemed like it was a decade dying in New York under that mess of a franchise, that gray cloud that rains every day of the year. But I guess it says here on this list, it's like Purdy received votes or something. Honorable mention, whatever. So I got my list tomorrow. Here, I got my list. I'll give it to you here. Ryan. The. You know what's refreshing about Alexi Lawless, and he. He does like to poke people in the ribs, which, you know, I'm not against that, but I will say it's interesting to watch. I mean, Stu Holden played the game. Alexi Lawless played the game. Carli Lloyd played the game. These people played the game. And they were critical of Pulisic. It's always easy to go, well, Colin, you didn't play the game, and that's kind of a week out, but whatever. There is some value obviously, in playing the game. But our American players who have not been as maybe great as Pulisic overseas, you know, they were critical of him. And it's been interesting to watch the pushback by people on our American players. I don't read my stuff, so I don't know what people are saying. But I know on players people have been critical of, like Alexi or Stu Holden or Carly. Well, these people don't understand the pressure. And my take is it's every four years, you gotta be good in the World cup, you know, for years and years. A Rod can get criticism if he struggles hitting the playoffs. Barry Bonds early in his career may have a bad playoffs. Here's. That's the reality of baseball players. I mean, one of the great things about Derek Jeter, you know, his career average and his playoff average were almost the same thing. You got the same Jeter every day with a Rod. He had some series in the postseason where it's like, whoa, he looks like a double A guy at the plate. He's all in his head. He's not hitting well. He gets dropped in the order. Not that he's not great, but that is how we judge our athletes. I mean, the reason Michael Jordan is a legend is 6 for 6. If Michael was 7 for 12, he wouldn't have the same legend being 6 for 6. Seriously. Magic Johnson got the nine finals. Jordan, though, was perfect. Magic got to 30% more finals. Apparently that has no value. So Pulisic, you know, your soccer stars can have a bad Copa. They can have a bad, you know, club team, season. They can't be bad in the World Cup. Here was Alexi earlier on Pulisic coming off a disappointing cup.
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Soccer Analyst
Christian Plisic is going to be fine. He was put out there and put himself out there as the face of this national team. I think he is still well on his way to becoming possibly the best American male soccer player ever. But the reality is, is that in the most important moment, just not just in a World cup, but in a home World cup, he didn't show up. For a lot of people, it affirmed or confirmed what they feel is that he is at times weak and weak in body, weak in mind. And that manifested during this, during this World Cup.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah, I don't think that's outrageous. He was timid. He was giving up possessions too quickly. It was weird. You're at home, It's a pick. Em Baligan was back. You know, I don't think, I think I have a pretty good thermometer on. Like when the media is totally unfair or too soft or too. And I thought it was, it wasn't vicious. It was like, bro, nine of these World cup matches for you either can't play or you leave early. And I got one goal in two World Cups and you're our best playmaker ever. I don't think that's harsh. Now he did get banged up and I'm not, I'm not, I'm not going to guess on injuries and severity of injuries. I'm not going to go there. But before the injury, we were disappointed. It wasn't post injury, it was before the injury. We were disappointed with the outcome of his cup performance. So I, I thought all of it was fair. Little hard maybe, but I mean, it's the World Cup. You ever read the Guardian or the London sun or the whatever. I mean, you read these international headlines and papers. They are vicious. They are brutal. Our media is not. Our soccer media is a lot like our NBA media. They're kind of player friendly on average. Not always, but on average, I'd say pretty player friendly. NFL media, college football media, much rougher on the players. All right. You know what deserves more attention? The assists. Everybody talks about the goal. A big moment that gets replayed on the highlight reels. But too often we overlook all the contributions and collabs that happen along the way. That's true in soccer and honestly true in life. Halion is shining a light on the assists. As official partner of U.S. soccer, they got a whole lineup of brands ready to deliver for you. So here they are. Sensodyne, dentist recommended. Defense of your sensitive teeth Centrum. Fueling your day with science backed nutrients Advil, of course. Powerful Inflammation Fighting Pain relief Voltaren Arthritis Gel helps penetrate deep, keeps the joints moving and tums ready to counterattack with fast heartburn relief. These are brands that are ready to deliver your essential wellness. Assists because every goal starts with an assist, learn how Halion can assist your game day goals at
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