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Your Business Folks, we are back at home on the Way Concept presented by the Ring Magazine My voice is going to come and go during this video, but thank you guys that have watched all the content over the last couple weeks. Been an amazing time for the channel. Merry early Christmas, Happy early Holidays to everybody out there celebrating. Tell your family and your loved ones that you love them, what a great time it is to be alive. And yes, we're back on on the Way Concept presented by the Ring with today's video being a look at the response from Andrew Tate to his loss to Chase d' Mo over the weekend. It was a massive upset in the crossover boxing scene. Andrew Tate coming back to boxing and taking on Chase d' Moore and fight that a lot of people thought should have gone one way, myself included. I thought he was going to show the levels of combat sports expertise that we just didn't get. It was not a great performance. It wasn't a great fight. But Chase did what Chase does. He neutralized the Cobra. He shut down everything Andrew wanted to do. He shut down Andrew Tate after a couple of rounds and Tate himself will admit he didn't have a great performance and at least he was admitting that. But then I'm starting to see Tate try to rationalize and justify and potentially full on make excuses for this loss. And I can't have that. There has to be a line of ownership and responsibility from Tate here. So I hope in this response video to him losing, we get a lot of that and not a lot of the other stuff. Let's take a look at this. Andrew Tate responds to one of the biggest upsets in crossover boxing History. A shocking loss. The breakdown. Let's go. But before we do, I want to say a big thank you to the sponsor of today's video, First Form. That is right. First form is the best supplement company in the world. I'm putting my stamp of approval on it, folks, and I'm doing so because First Phorm cares about people, not the product. In other words, they are looking out for your best interest, trying to help you in your supplementation journey to help become a more healthy version of yourself. When I go to the gym and I work out real hard and I blast the 22s, more like 12s but it is what it is. I need some help recovering and I do that using HSF certified. That means tested and approved first form products like their Formula one Whey Isolate Protein. I guzzle that down. That's right, guzzle it straight after a workout and it helps with my recovery. It helps me feel like I'm getting the best out of my workout and it helps me improve my cardio and gas tank. Unlike an older version of me and someone else we're going to talk about in this video and whether it's a way I slip protein and their protein sticks which we have a special offer for. I'll tell you in a second. Their OmniGreens 50 or any other supplement you are looking for. First Phorm is produced in the USA and committed to giving you the best. So when you click the link in the description and buy any product from First Phorm right now Holiday Special, they're going to send you out a free five pack of protein sticks along with your order and also spend a hundred dollars or more at First Form. You're going to get that free shipping as well. Once again, click the link in the description. Make sure your friends and family have a fantastic holiday. Not just Christmas, but into the new year, helping them with their supplementation goals in 2026 by clicking the link in the description, order anything off the website. You're going to get a free 5 pack of protein sticks and spend $100 or more and first form is sending it to you free shipping included. Thank you to first form for sponsoring this video. And now let's get back into the breakdown.
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Andrew Tate
I didn't have a Christmas or a new year planned. I didn't have anything in my head after this fight. My life ended on December 20th and now my life has begun again. It's a unique position to be in. People are saying, oh, what about Christmas? I'm like, oh yeah, Christmas. I forgot about Christmas and I forgot about New Year. I forgot about everything. I only had one singular focus. I was just worried about this fight.
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Podcast Host
I mean, yeah, that's. That's a normal thing for, you know, fight preparation and, you know, putting your focus on it. Every fighter has to go through something like this. It's called sacrifice. Something every single combat sports athlete has to do to prepare for a fight. And, you know, Andrew obviously took this fight seriously. Clearly. I think that's what's making this loss harder for him to swallow is the fact that he took it so seriously. He was so convinced he was about to beat up Chase d'. Amore. But I mean, just my personal experience, last year, I fought on January 18th. I didn't have a Christmas. We trained right through Christmas. I didn't have a New Year's. I didn't do any of that. I came back home on, like, January 20th or 21st and opened my presents here in California because I was out in Arizona doing training. This is. I mean, again, I am not a fighter. I fought once. But sacrifice, which Andrew knows is a part of the fight game.
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Andrew Tate
Let me make something very fucking clear to you from the beginning.
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Podcast Host
Oh.
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Andrew Tate
If you are worried about other people's opinion of you, they already own you. They already control you. If you are worried about what they are going to say or what they think about you, even if you need the praise, they own you. If you sit and say, I'm going to try this thing and I know I'll succeed and everybody is going to say good things about me. So to make sure that happens, I'm going to cheat or I'm going to be underhanded. I'm going to do some sneaky shit because I need these people to say good things about me. They already fucking own you.
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Podcast Host
What if you do it and say, I don't want to cheat, but I'm still going to do it so that I get a lot of praise or that people say nice things about me, do they own you then? What if you do it by the board? And also Andrew is. He seems like he's going down this list of, like, talking about how he doesn't need the approval or he doesn't care about what people think? And I'm just going to call bullshit. I think he's deeply, deeply insecure about this fight and the way it went. As much as he's about to tell you his, like, people's opinions of him don't matter. He spent the last two days since he lost putting out soliloquies. And diatribes on Twitter addressing what people are saying. You see him since the loss, most men have never felt the sting of defeat because most men have never tried, right? This is clearly a response to everybody online laughing at him and then him retweeting what his brother said. He's not the same fighter conking, conquering, kickboxing and a younger man. It's not the critic who counts, not the man who points out the strong man that stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena. This is the man in the arena. Stuff like, again, nothing wrong with addressing people, but don't act like it's not bothering you when you're putting out these long tweets retweeting a bunch of stuff about you, it clearly bothers you. Look at this. 99% of 40 year old men with $700 million sit around with horse. What a way to start the sentence off. I could have done the same and talk shit on the Internet and took no risk and just lived easy. In my heart, I knew I'm too old. So now we'll get into these further, but it's like you're seeing the shift, the narrative shift of, of how this loss came about right now it's. He knew he was too old and he knew he'd been out too long. That's why I had to do it, to face fear. I can't live scared. I have to know I faced it. I lost fair and square. Chase is the true champion, a warrior. I'm proud of him. He deserves a belt, right? You can't say that after you're like, well, I old. And I knew I was too old, so I knew I was going to lose, but I did it anyway. Like, no, you didn't. You thought you were going to win. You thought. I bet Andrew thought he was going to knock Chase out in the first round. I'd be willing to bet that if I spoke to the people in his camp just prior to the fight, not Andrew, because Andrew would have said, ah, you know, you don't know what happens. But I bet they believe they were going to walk right through Chase and it didn't happen.
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Andrew Tate
I don't care if people say good things about me or bad things about me, because those people don't own me and they don't decide my worth and they don't get to decide how I live my life because they sit there and write comments. What kind of would I be as a Man, if I sit at home and think, you know what, maybe I should take this fight. Yes, it's a big risk. Yes, he's younger than me. Yes, he's more active than me. Yes, he's heavier than me. Yes, he's taller than me. Yes, I might lose. And if I lose, people on the Internet will make fun of me. So I'm not gonna do the fight. Are these people my boss?
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Podcast Host
Again, he. He's not like anybody. Like everybody that's done influencer boxing or crossover boxing has had to ask themselves this question. KSI had to ask himself that question. Jake had to ask himself that question. Logan's kind of been bigger than everybody else, but Logan's had to ask himself questions about risk. And I mean, again, just name the. The Gib. Like, everybody that stepped in and has had a non favorable matchup has had to ask himselves that question. Like, I felt I was better than Mosiah when we fought, but he had one more fight than I did. He was bigger than I was, he was stronger than I was, he was younger than I was. I think we might have been the same height. But these are questions. And I had a bit of a reputation, so if I lost, I was going to get clowned. And I knew that. Now, again, my clout level versus Andrew Tate's clout level, not the same. I get it. But I guess my point is everybody has to answer that question. This is not something that is special to Andrew. The only thing maybe different is that he is one of the most popular or at least viewed people on the Internet. But he also had a massive, massive experience edge on Chase in terms of just training, combat sports and his hands. And yes, he took a risk, but it just, again, it just didn't work out. Just leave it at that. This constant, like, referring to the advantages Chase had without referring to the ones you had. It's not a good look. It makes it. It seems like you fought Anthony Joshua and that's not who you fought. No offense to Chase. He is the misfits champ, but that's not who you fought. You took that fight. Yes, because you wanted the misfits belt and you wanted to beat the heavyweight champ, but you knew the risk. It is what it is.
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Andrew Tate
I went out on my shield like a man, and I'll do it again. Chase beat me.
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Podcast Host
There you go.
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Andrew Tate
But he didn't instill fear in my heart. I'm not afraid of fighting. I'm not afraid of him. He just beat me.
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Podcast Host
I don't even know rematch That's. I mean, the way he's talking, I'm. I'm hearing rematch. He beat me. He didn't put fear in my heart, though. I'm not afraid of him. I'm not afraid of fighting. I'll do it again. I would love to see a rematch. I. And it's. If Tate was going to fight, I almost think he needs for it to be a rematch. Because if you're Andrew Tate and you change the variables of the fight and you win, it won't mean as much to me and the fans. And I think in just the, the, the look, the perspective of the fight, you can't fight someone now that's shorter, smaller, less experienced, that even Chase, and then pull the win out and act like that was your get back. You got to go and rematch the man. If that, if you really do, if that's what he's. He could just be referring to the fact that he's. He's not afraid of nothing or whatever. But if he really wants to, to come back and do this again, to be, in my opinion, has to be against Chase. You got to get that one back.
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Andrew Tate
I've had not yet had time to process why he beat me. I got tired after the second round.
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Podcast Host
Yeah.
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Andrew Tate
And I don't know why. The first and second round, he couldn't touch me. If I didn't get tired, I would have won. I'm a better boxer. But I did get tired. Maybe it's ring rust. Maybe I'm too old. Maybe he's too heavy. And he kept leaning on me. I don't know why, but he beat me. And let me make something else very clear to you.
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Podcast Host
So before we get into that, I hate the what ifs in the fight game. Andrew does this thing here where in one hand, he's like, I got beat. He beat me. And that's genuine. That's correct. He lost. And I. If he would have just left it at that. I don't know why he beat me, but he beat me. He was the better man that night. I need to go back and watch the tape and, and if I ever do come back, I need to work on some things that I did wrong that I would accept. But when he goes into this, I got tired, which he did. I called it sitting there. I wish I was on commentary during this fight because I watched him go back to his corner. And something I like to do on the commentary desk is sit there and look into corners, because I think it tells so much more of the story sometimes than even what we've just seen, Andrew's right. He won the first two rounds. He was jabbing Chase to the body. He was pressuring him. He's putting Chase on the back foot. But then I watched him walk back to his corner at the end of the second round, and he was gassed. It was bad. So when he says, I don't know why I lost. I don't know why I got tired. And if I didn't get tired, I would have won. I was the better boxer. You can't play that game, right? You can't in defeat. You cannot do that. Because there are variables out of Andrew Tate's control. For example, I said, if Chase would have jabbed Andrew Tate Moore, he probably could have and would have stopped him. And I say that because that's something Chase could control. Chase just didn't jab. He threw right hands damn near exclusively the entire fight. Chase doesn't jab a lot. He uses lead hand to kind of frame off and push you away and keep his head away from your punches. But he doesn't jab a lot. And I think if he'd add that to his game more, he'd be starching motherfuckers. But Andrew Tate's gas tank, there wasn't much in terms of the fight itself, he could have done differently to save himself at that point, because he's right. He's 39. He's out for a long time. Ring rust, potentially. And also Chase being a bigger guy. This was a massive factor in the fight. But it's again something that Andrew signed up for. He told Chase throughout the entire buildup that Chase needed to stop complaining about the weight. And here's Andrew complaining about the weight. You decided to fight a bigger man. It was going to look better for your resume. This is what you wanted. Andrew could have come in and fought someone smaller. He chose this. And Chase did have to make 200 pounds after. The lowest Chase went before this fight was 220 pounds. Chase fought Kels at 240 pounds, and they got him down to 200 in a heavyweight fight. And then he had a rehydration clause of £12 on fight day that he had to make. And Chase did that like a gangster. That is sacrifice, dude. That right there. Chase didn't have 700 million in the bank. Chase fought for 5,000 here, 5,000 there. Chase has said yes to fights he probably shouldn't have even been in. And he lost a ton of times. Chase knows about failure, too. On a big stage. I respect the fuck the gangster out of Chase for saying yes to everything, being in Dubai, making the way. People may not know this and Chase maybe will never say it, but I heard he was having trouble standing up after weighing in. He was about to pass out, or maybe even did pass out and still made that fight dude gangster. But I guess my major point is there are no ifs in the fight game when you lose, right? You can always play the if game, but the reality is you got tired probably because of the habits in your lifestyle for 10 plus years, probably because whatever you did in training camp, and I'm not going to take away from what Tate did, seem like he trained hard, but maybe it wasn't the right type of training. Maybe he over trained. Maybe he didn't prepare for the fact that Chase was going to be a big strong guy and he was going to be able to lean on him, which was, I thought the most obvious thing you should prepare for. If you think going into a fight with Chase d', Amore, if you watch his fights, it's going to be a clean boxing match and he's not going to clinch you, then that's a failure of preparation on your part and you have no one to blame but yourself. If you're asking the questions of why did I gas? It looked pretty clear. Tate threw a lot of punches, came forward, was very aggressive, threw with force, didn't do a lot of touching, but threw a lot of stuff with power, got tied up, had to deal with Chase's clinch, had to deal with his size and frame and when he wasn't landing and getting Chase out of there, because Chase is a big, tall, awkward guy and Tate was throwing around the guard, which I think would have been better to throw through the guard, the straight punches to get to Chase's chin or to get to his body, then his chin versus trying to come around. You take away your distance doing that. When those things didn't happen, the sting fell off his punch, he lost his legs and Chase took advantage. It wasn't a good fight. It was a very muddy, ugly fight and Chase does that to a lot of people. Tate wasn't prepared for it. So whatever excuses are going to come out here and the, the idea of if he was in better shape, he would have won. There's a reason you gas, whether it was your preparation, whether it was your game plan, whether it was how Chase neutralize what you do, you put them In a ring, 10 times out of 10, those same variables are going to come up. What could Tate realistically have done differently Outside of knock Chase out in the first round before he gets tired. That fight goes six rounds. Tate was going to get tired. This is why I said I think he needs to change some things in his camp. Clearly whatever they were doing to get him prepared cardio wise was not enough or wasn't the right way to do it. He clearly was not ready for that six round fight. I think, and again, I've said this, I think genuinely Tate thought he was going to knock Chase out in the first two rounds. It didn't even cross their mind. This could go to decision. That's what I think.
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Andrew Tate
And let me make something else very clear to you. I have complete respect for Chase d', Moore, complete respect for him, because I know the pressure he must have been under to take this fight. It was an opportunity for him, yes, and it was a risk for me. But we had pressure on different sides, both sides of the coin. We had pressure in different directions. It would have been very difficult for him mentally, just like it was very difficult for me mentally and for him to turn up on the day and get it done. Complete respect to him. Let me give you some life advice.
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Podcast Host
And also, you know, again, I just want to make sure, since Andrew is offering the qualifiers that he had in defeat, Chase was bigger, stronger, younger. Andrew Tate had 80 fights to his name. He says he was a four time world champion in kickboxing. I know kickboxing is not boxing, but he himself calls himself the better boxer. Not two sentences earlier, Chase had to lose upwards of 30 pounds to even make this fight happen. And then had to keep the weight off until the next day up to 212. Drained himself down all the way from his natural weight in a heavyweight matchup, by the way, where guys like Deontay Wilder fought Tyson Fury when wilder was like 220 and fury was like 270. Chase had to fight a lot of demons to get there as well. And he had a lot of qualifiers too.
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Andrew Tate
Chase deserves this victory. He deserves the fame, he deserves the happiness, he deserves the money, he deserves the credit. He earned it. And I'm not going to take that away from him with excuses, talking about rematches, making up about how he grabbed me, some crap. He won and he deserved.
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Podcast Host
You just did that a second ago, though. You just did that. You just did that though. Like he didn't he not just hear himself like five minutes ago saying, you know, I'm not on fear, Chase, I do it again or I'll do it again. And then saying, I don't know why I Got tired. Maybe it was because he was bigger than me. Maybe it was because he grabbed me or he clinched me. I'm not sure why. Maybe I was out of the ring too long. Maybe I'm too old. Those are the excuses. And then saying, if I didn't get tired, I would have won. I was better than he was. You offered up excuses, you gave qualifiers, and then you made up a reason why you should have and would have won, but did it and then said, I'm not going to make excuses. It's weird how he kind of just like flip flops it, because I do. I agree with him. He shouldn't do any of those things right now. He should just give Chase's respect and dip.
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Andrew Tate
If I want to get spiritual about all of this.
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Podcast Host
Oh, geez, I don't think we need that.
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Andrew Tate
You have to understand that there are forces larger than us people.
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Podcast Host
Oh, no.
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Andrew Tate
That exist. And I said that the answer was already written. Why did I get tired? I don't know. It doesn't make sense. The only thing.
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Podcast Host
No more excuses, though. Here we go. Hey, Tate's not an excuse maker, so surely he's not going to go back to the. Well, right?
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Andrew Tate
Thing that makes sense is that I was not supposed to win. Why was I not supposed to win? Is the world a better place now that I've lost?
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Podcast Host
There's no way he's about to blame the spirits of the world or the fucking ancestral plane or God himself for losing to Chase more. There's no way he's going to do that. That's you. There's no way that you can do that. And I know fighters that say, you know, it's God's plan. Whatever happens is his plan and I have no control over it. Sure, that's. That's great if you believe that and you're very spiritual as a person, whatever. But if you went into the fight thinking God wants me to lose, you wouldn't fucking fight. Okay? No one goes into the fight thinking, ah, the plan is for me to lose. They want you go in to win. So when you come out and you don't win, don't get to blame the spiritual forces of the world. That's fucking bullshit.
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Andrew Tate
Maybe the win means more to Chase than it would have mean to me. Maybe Chase couldn't handle the loss.
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Podcast Host
Oh, my God. Stop that right now. You stop this. Don't act like you're some sort of philosophical genius. That's like, well, actually, this is all meant to be. To be this way. This is like watching one of those movies where you go throughout the entire movie thinking it's real. At the end, they're like. And then the guy woke up. It was all a simulation. And you get pissed because the story meant nothing. The movie did nothing. And it was all. Because at the end of the whole thing, the director, the creator, the script writer got lazy and couldn't find a way out of some movie. So he just said, and it was a dream. At the end, Tate is doing that. Tate is telling you that none of it mattered because God actually cares so much about Andrew Tate winning and losing a boxing match or Chase winning and losing that he chose Chase to win because Chase couldn't handle the loss. No, maybe Chase wanted it more. Maybe that's why he pulled through when it got ugly and Tate was gassing. And by the way, Chase wasn't a spry chicken. He was not fresh in there either. He was gassing. But in those moments, he pushed forward. In those moments, he came with offense and he put it on Tate. That's because he wanted it more, not because God wanted it more. Stop that.
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Andrew Tate
Maybe God decided. You know what? Chase has been through enough with mocking and things on the Internet. Chase doesn't need the loss right now. Andrew can handle the loss better. Maybe God decided.
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Podcast Host
You are out of your fucking mind. Maybe God said, andrew can handle the loss better, so I'll give him the loss. No. Maybe Chase wanted to win more than you did.
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Andrew Tate
Maybe if I won, we would have went out and celebrated that night, and Tristan would have smoked a bunch of cigars, and maybe he would have died one minute earlier, and maybe I get an extra minute with my brother because I lost. And if that's the case, then I'm glad I lost. You have to have faith in a higher power.
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Podcast Host
What is he even saying, Dude?
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Andrew Tate
There's a lesson in all of this, and I don't need to know exactly what it is. If God decides that for some reason, he's going to instantly gas me when I was in perfect physical condition, he's.
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Podcast Host
Got to be troll that I lose. He's got to be trolling. He has to be trolling, dude. He has to be. And this is. Listen, listen. I know Luke Barnett is a former UFC fighter. It's not within me to question fighters in their preparation. But this. This is starting to sound like Andrew truly believed he was in perfect physical condition and that he could not have gassed at all. And that would lead me to believe that there was a lot of yes spin in Andrew Tate's camp. There's a lot of people telling him what he wanted to hear and, you know, sparring him in a certain way and not putting him through the. The. The same type of fire that he was going to see against Chase. And it seems like they underestimated Chase. Chase. As much as they're not saying it. It seems like they did. Because what he's saying either. There's a lot of yes men in his camp that didn't test him the way he needed to be for this fight. And he. He's baffled as to why he gassed when the reality is his legs went, his arms went, because there was a lot of clenching. Chase was bigger than him, and Tate threw a lot of power punches, and he struggled to land them. You didn't see a lot of that in camp. Clearly made it an ugly fight. Chase is a strong athlete, and he kind of bullied Andrew. He didn't get bullied in camp, or he's trolling, and I don't know which one it is.
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Andrew Tate
And I took this fight knowing it was a risk. Risk, guys. I could have fought a tin can. I could have fought an idiot. And everyone would say, top G, top G, top G. I could have fought some nobody and beat up some nobody. But what's the point in that where.
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Podcast Host
He'S called Chase a nobody and an idiot before they fought? I mean, again, it just writes himself.
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Andrew Tate
It's the lesson in that for me. Where's the lesson in that for you? I put it on the line. I get in the arena, everyone with an opinion is on the sidelines. Imagine living a life where you're so afraid of loss that you never get to win. You sit in the corner as a coward, writing Twitter comments at people who take risks you will not take.
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Podcast Host
But he don't care about it, y'. All. You don't care. If you would have come on here and been like, you know what? I'm pissed off at people talking, then I would respect this a lot more. You can't come on here and talk about, oh, I don't care about what people got to say and then go on a diatribe about what people got to say. Dude, you can't.
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Andrew Tate
Napoleon is in the history books. He lost battles.
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Podcast Host
He lost to Chase. Tomorrow I'm playing.
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Andrew Tate
And you have to know that. And you accept that when you agree to take the risk in the first place.
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Podcast Host
Facts. I agree.
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Andrew Tate
And that is the barrier that prevents most people from getting anywhere. The what if I lose? I just lost in front of the world, got paid $20 million, I'm fine.
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Podcast Host
And immediately, dude, immediately I lost in front of the world. And instead of being like, boom, in the video, I'll move on, I'll get better, I'll come back stronger. He's like, by the way, though, got paid more than you ever will. I don't care about what you think, though. Oh, my God. I don't know why I found that. So $20 million. That's a lot, dude. That is crazy money. Shout out to him, dude. Life changing for most of us. Probably not for Andrew Tate. I'm still waiting on what would have happened. Should he have won to change his life? Because that's what he said. But how do you come back from the loss? It's what you keep trying to tell us and then we don't hear how.
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Andrew Tate
And one of the thoughts I've been having these last couple of days is, if I knew I was going to lose, would I have still fought? And the answer is yes. In fact, if I knew I was going to lose, it would have even been more important that I fought. Because if I were to not fight just because I'd lose, then I'd really be a coward. And I said before the fight, I'm here to fight. I don't think about winning, lose. I'm here to fight. And I meant it. If a genie came to me and said, I've seen the future. You lose this fight, Andrew, are you still going to do it? I said, now I have to. Now I have to.
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Podcast Host
He did not think for a second he was going to lose that fight. No one in his camp thought for a second he was going to lose that fight. They thought they were going to go out and rock, chase his shit and get an even bigger fight after. And again, there's nothing wrong with thinking that. That's confidence, that's swagger. That is, you know, being the top G, whatever. But it didn't work out that way, dog. And that's okay. But this revisionist history is insane, dude. We were all there. We all saw it. Can't convince us otherwise.
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Andrew Tate
I remember winning my first world title. I was 23 years old. I was Wolverine. I could heal in a day. Things that now take a week. I'm not so old. I'm 39. But staying active till 39 is very different than coming out of a 10 year retirement at 39.
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Podcast Host
Wasn't it five years, though? I, I, I didn't he just have a fight? See, this is what I mean. Andrew Tay said he had come out of a 10 year retirement. He fought three times in 2020, and still that's five years away from the game. But, like, why do we keep making up that he was 10 years retired? Those fights not count because they don't fit the same narrative. Like, it's on his box wreck or is kickbox wreck or whatever you want to say on his. On his topology. It's there. Did those fights not happen? Are those made up? I don't understand. Did he not train for those fights?
- [27:31]
Andrew Tate
If I was 23, would I beat Chase? Of course. If I.
- [27:37]
Podcast Host
What are we doing? Here we go again. Dude. If I was this age, if I had this, if it was this. That's not reality. Stop it. Stop. And people will be like, yeah, yeah, he would have. And maybe, but who gives a shit? There's no point to be made in having these little potshots where it's like, if I had this, if I would have beat him, if I was better, and I was this. That makes the stuff that he said about Chase, nonsense, nonsense. It makes it unusable. It makes it fake. It makes it phony. Because in one breath, you say, oh, you know, give respect. Respect to Chase. He won it. He did what he's supposed to do. And in this next breath, you're talking about ways that you should have won, could have won. God wanted you to lose because you could handle it better. How if you were 23 years old, you would have beat Chase. How you were the better boxer than Chase, how he was bigger and stronger and how he was younger, and how you're a lion, but the lion's got soft teeth and arthritis or some, like, does no one else see this manipulation at the highest order we're seeing? Dude, come on.
- [28:30]
Andrew Tate
After the fight, Chase said I helped him mentally. If you judge a teacher by the quality of his students, the fact I managed to instill and help him enough with his mindset so that he could beat even me makes me proud of him and proud of myself. It's like Master Splinter teaching the Ninja Turtle so well that he could beat him.
- [28:58]
Podcast Host
Like, Chase did come out and say that Tate saved his life and that Chase was gonna commit suicide, which is no laughing matter. Like, that's so, so bad that Chase got so low, and it was apparently over the fight he had on Misfits where, you know, people clowned him to death. And it really is a nice sentiment that Chase did learn a lot from Andrew Tate. And listen, one of the things that Tate has been credited with is his ability to motivate young men. But don't again, let's. Let's have the context of what, what happened in the fight. Andrew Tate did not teach Chase Damore how to fight. He might have taught him mentally how to overcome things and how to be a strong person and how to, when the going gets tough, keep moving forward. But Chase beat Andrew Tate not only because of those things, but also because Chase outworked him in the fight. Chase did things to neutralize Andrew Tate as a fighter that Tate had nothing to do with. So this isn't like Master Splinter teaching the Ninja Turtles fight moves and then them using them on Master Splinter. This is Tate encouraging a young man and Chase Damore to not listen to people online or, like, be self motivated for Chase to go on the run and build his confidence back and ultimately get a chance to fight Tate. That's it. But like, he didn't teach him anything about fighting.
- [30:03]
Andrew Tate
Top G. Everyone says to me is, you helped with my mindset. You helped me. That's what I am about. That's what all of this is about. Perhaps that's why God made me lose, so that I had things to say on today's emergency meeting. Besides, he did it again.
- [30:17]
Podcast Host
Dude, shut up. That's why God made me lose. You know, disrespectful, that is to Chase. Dude, it's so disrespectful to Chase, the guy he's saying, I'm not going to disrespect to say the only way that he could have beat me is if God the Almighty, being the omnipresent creator of the universe, decided I had to lose and that's the only way Chase won. That's so unbelievably disrespectful and disingenuous. Like, come on, dude, you can't. He has to be trolling. This has to be a character thing. This has to be a Top G thing. And I'm getting rage baited because there's no way he genuinely believes the only reason he lost is because God the creator decided, here's where I take all of your energy. Now fuck out of here.
- [30:57]
Andrew Tate
Tristan said to me, what happened? I said, I got tired. I don't know why. He said, you deserve that win. You've been through so much. You deserve that win. I said, I know. He goes, you trained so hard. You're in fantastic shape. I said, I know. I just got tired. If I didn't get tired, I would have beat him. He couldn't hit me in the first round. Couldn't touch the.
- [31:12]
Podcast Host
That's why Fights aren't one round though, Andrew, how do you not know that? Like, yes, he is correct that in the first round when they were both fresh, Andrew was winning pretty easily. In the second round, he did good work, won that round pretty easily. But this is why, and Chase said this in the press conference, this is why he wanted a 10 round fight, 12 round fight. He knew he had a better gas tank. He knew he could outlast him. He knew he trained hard. As much as Chase likes to bullshit and act like he doesn't train, that motherfucker gets down. He's a dog. Tate clearly thought he could beat Chase in a couple of rounds. He thought he was so much better skill wise that Chase was going to walk into a punch, he was going to p back on a right hand and drop him. And that didn't happen. And when it didn't happen, he was not prepared for the fight that Chase was going to bring. That's what happened. There's no question why he got tired. Chase brought a game plan that was purposely making it worse for him and harder for him to land clean punches, to fight a clean fight, and to operate at range. Chase smothered him, bullied him, and ended up zapping his energy well than God. Chase d' Amore did that as well as Andrew by firing off a lot of power punches early.
- [32:10]
Andrew Tate
And he said to me, I'm tired, Andrew, of watching you find the silver linings in all of the clouds. You deserve to have a sunny day. You're so good at finding a silver lining on a cloud. Every time something bad happens, you find a way to learn something or make it good. But I'm tired of you having to suffer all the time.
- [32:31]
Podcast Host
This wasn't something bad that happened to Andrew Tate. This was a fight that he lost, something that he engaged in and it didn't go his way. This wasn't some random occurrence that that happened to him. And it was, it was a bad thing that happened. He chose to fight and he lost. Dude, what is this Talk about silver linings playbook and sunshine on a rainy day. Good Lord.
- [32:50]
Andrew Tate
And look for the silver linings. Why can't you just ever have a nice day? Why can't you ever have a sunny day? And I said, well, we've had so many clouds that we've got a lot of silver. So I guess that's what it is. I'm so good at finding the silver lining. When you throw me a cloud, I'll find the silver.
- [33:13]
Podcast Host
Does that mean he's like great at taking second place. I don't know what the joke is. I don't know if he even knows. He made like a second place joke. I don't know what that was supposed to mean. Does that mean he's like, rein investing his portfolio into silver? I heard it's booming right now. I have no idea what this means.
- [33:28]
Andrew Tate
Anyone who thinks less of me for doing something I didn't have to do for money I didn't need, for taking a risk with my life has a character defect and a morality defect. And they're not the kind of people I want to like me.
- [33:43]
Podcast Host
But you do want people to like you, don't you? Even though you said you didn't care. Now, listen, I don't want to see Andrew lose or I don't want to see Andrew win. I wanted to see what he would bring. I was interested. I thought he would win. But it doesn't matter to me whether he won or lost. And I wasn't rooting for either way. There's more than just those people that have a character defect. It's also Andrew. Andrew definitely does when he's talking about how. When he's like flip flopping on every point like a fish out of water, man, I. This entire video has been bizarre, to say the least.
- [34:13]
Andrew Tate
Anyone I've inspired has made it all worth it. And if I could go back in time, knowing the result, knowing I would lose in front of the world, I'd do it again.
- [34:26]
Podcast Host
All right, so there it is. That's probably one of the most bizarre videos I think I've ever seen in terms of someone trying to cope with. With the idea that they lost. And I mean, I'll just be honest. I didn't hear him take responsibility for one thing in the fight or in terms of what happened, right? Like, I didn't hear him do much fight talk at all other than I was winning. I would have won had I not got tired. Getting tired was the only reason I lost. Not really offering anything up to Chase other than, you know, he won respect and all that. But immediately, like two sentences later doubling down with, well, he only won because God wanted me to. And God zapped my energy. And God. God gave me the loss because I could handle it and Chase couldn't. And I'm better at losing and I have a lot of silver and you guys don't have as much money as I do. Suck it. I don't care about what you think, but here's the 38 minute video on why I don't care and talking about what you think like, this was pure Cope, right? It was. And again, I don't want to see stuff like this. I don't want to see Andrew humiliated. I don't really care for any of the outside of the boxing stuff. I'm just looking at a man that clearly got broken by the fact that he did not in any way, shape or form think he was going to lose that fight. And I don't know if it was the yes men camp that put him in a position to not be ready for what Chase brought. I don't know if his coaches did the proper research on Chase. I don't know if they took him as seriously as they should have or if this entire video was a full on troll. But regardless, the reason Andrew Tate lost was because Chase prepared better for their fight. Chase fought in a way Andrew wasn't prepared for and took him into deep water that he wasn't ready to go to. Andrew thought he could get at Chase out of there early. And when that didn't happen and when Chase employed different tactics than Andrew's used to, and when he used the size and frame that he had his, his advantages and Andrew wasn't able to get his advantages off, the fight turned. And this is why we don't fight for two rounds or even four rounds in championship fights. They went six, and by the second, Andrew was done. Chase just had to take his hand and walk him into the deep water. And that's where he took it. God did not make Andrew Tate lose either. Andrew Tate's lack of preparation or lack of execution, and Chase's execution and preparation got the job done. That was one of the most bizarre videos I've ever seen. I don't know if Andrew Tate fights again. I would like to see him fight again. Why not not? But you have to do it against Chase Damore. You have to come back and right the wrongs in the rematch. Otherwise, all these words ring hollow because all he said was, I'll keep fighting, I'll keep getting up, I'll keep taking the challenges. The biggest challenge is can you right the wrong of that fight? Can you find what the, the silver linings told you about the adjustments you can make? Or is he just gonna go and do real world stuff and live a happy, healthy life? That's fine too. If he wants to come back and fight, it better be against Chase d', More, because that's the guy that beat you. You, that's the guy that's got your number, that's the guy that's got the belt. That's the guy you called out. That's what I think. Let me know what you guys think in the comments below. Andrew Tate with I, I want to call this a, a, a bizarre, almost a little bit embarrassing of a response. I'll be honest, blaming God for your loss is kind of crazy, but maybe I'm the one taking it the wrong way. You guys, let me know in the comments what happens next for Andrew Tate and for Misfits, Chase Damore. Everybody involved don't have those answers, but guess we'll find out. All right, folks, we are back on the Way Concept presented by the Ring Magazine. I think this is my second video at home. It's been a whirlwind Merry Christmas to everyone. By the time you see this, it'll be either Christmas Eve or Christmas Day. And it's been a great year here at the Way Concepts. I want to thank you all for supporting, for subscribing, for being here on the channel. And today we're looking back and kind of forward at Jake Paul's boxing match with Anthony Joshua and at the rest of his career moving forward. Because Jake was on impulsive, as is customary after his fights, he goes on his brother's podcast. They talk about what happened, they go back and forth and then Mike Malak jumps in with some weird homoerotic joke. But this one may be a little different because Jake is coming out of a fight which he lost and he got knocked out in or TKO'd in and required emergency double jaw surgery because he broke his jaw into place is something that I did not see when I first recorded my breakdown post fight and now is public knowledge. Jake has had double jaw surgery, four plates, eight screws in his face, and everybody is just kind of breezing past that like it's no big deal. But I'm looking further into this because that's no easy surgery. And I'm starting to have to ask the question, is this the beginning of the end of Jake Paul's boxing career? It's not just because of the jaw surgery, but so much more that we're going to talk about today. So let's get into the breakdown, but before we do, let's thank the sponsor of today's video. First Form. That is right, folks. First form is here to satisfy all your holiday gift giving. Now, yes, by the time you see this, it'll be Christmas Eve. 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- [40:44]
Jake Paul
How do I look? You look good.
- [40:47]
Podcast Host
Hard to believe he had surgery a few hours ago, honestly.
- [40:49]
Interviewer
Hey Jake.
- [40:51]
Podcast Host
So this is the day of still or the day after? Probably the day after. He just had surgery but like you can see his nose is still bleeding. Yeah, this guy, dude, psycho.
- [41:01]
Interviewer
I'm still, after all the fights you've had, in awe of the fact that you do what you do.
- [41:05]
Commentator
It's.
- [41:06]
Interviewer
It's mind blowing to me.
- [41:08]
Jake Paul
Thank you man. Yeah, I mean it's not that hard to get your ass beat.
- [41:14]
Podcast Host
I don't think you, I don't think.
- [41:16]
Commentator
I don't think it was that bad.
- [41:18]
Jake Paul
I. I won two rounds for sure and then he won two, and then I got dropped.
- [41:23]
Podcast Host
I don't know if Jake won two rounds now. First off, Jake is being a little bit facetious. Like, what does it take a lot of bravery to get your ass beat? There's just been a discussion online over the last couple of days of, like, what is bravery to step in? Like, did. Was Jake brave because he stepped in, but he didn't step toe to toe with aj, and he fought a negative fight, kind of on the back foot and letting AJ walk to him and then kind of just moving around the ropes. I'm not a fighter, but to me, regardless of the money involved, regardless how Jake fought, it wasn't a William Scholesque fight because Jake still turned punches over. Jake still cracked AJ with some punches. And yes, it wasn't like a. A Jake that stood toe to toe and got in the phone booth and just slugged it out with aj. But I don't know who expected that. If you expected Jake to do that, you were mistaken as to what you were going to get. This was always going to be Jake looking for a miracle shot multiple times per round and using the rest of that round to create dist space and not get hit with a big punch. That was the entire point of Jake doing this. It wasn't to stand toe to toe with aj. And I think that's. Sometimes people look at a fight and go, this is what I wanted. And the fact that you didn't do that means that you weren't brave because Francis did that and because every other heavyweight did that. But Jake was clearly undersized under match. It was never going to be a great fight in terms of, oh, both guys are going to stand there and we're going to get them fighting in the pocket and someone's going to come out on top. And Jake's to going. Going to take it to Anthony Joshua like that. No, I know Jake may have said that and. Okay, incorrect. You know, deceptive marketing. Welcome to the Jake Paul show. But in reality, that was. That was never going to be the case. Jake was going to do what he did in this fight. Every single time. I saw Ochocinko and, you know, Shannon Sharp and all these people bring their opinions on what Jake's strategy was and how he prepared. Let me tell you, that is exactly what Jake and his team wanted to do. Now, did he execute all the things he wanted to? No, he lost. But they wanted to fight Just like that. Because it was the only way Jake was one, gonna survive into the later rounds and two, gonna have a chance at even landing anything. I also don't know which rounds Jake, you know, purportedly won. If you look at the CompuBox numbers, this was not a very high activity fight. You could say Jake won the first round and maybe the fourth. But again, this is just on paper. I think the reality probably states that Jake won the first and everything else was Joshua. Because in all of these rounds, Jake was solely on the back foot. Jake was engaging only when engaged with and you know, for the most part, the numbers being even. AJ did dominate, and I mean absolutely dominate ring generalship. So I got to push back right away on Jake saying he won two rounds. That is not the case.
- [43:59]
Jake Paul
Yeah, I was doing good. I just think I my cardio, just the mental pressure of the big guy and sparring the big people is different than the 10 ounce gloves. So I was feeling his power a lot more. But it was great experience. Like I learned a lot in there. I can't really talk.
- [44:21]
Commentator
Are you in pain?
- [44:23]
Jake Paul
Yeah, but it's not from like talking.
- [44:27]
Podcast Host
So Jake says, you know, he mostly was doing good until his cardio caught up with him. I think to him he did do what he wanted, which was in, I guess in his mind, a good approach to the fight. But in reality, he didn't do a lot in the fight. He landed some big punches. I've watched the fight back at this point and what was impressive was his ability to, to move around. For sure. Like it was cool to see him move around, but he didn't do much to AJ in terms of the power that he brought. And that was when everything kind of fell apart. I think they almost banked on the fact that if Jake did land on him that he could hurt him. That wasn't the case. Jake landed on, landed flush on him multiple times. And going into the fight, I and a lot of people told you guys that if Jake wasn't able to hurt Tommy Fury landing flush on him, yes, Jake was smaller than and he's come up in way since. But if that wasn't the case and he couldn't wobble Tommy Fury, how was he going to hurt aj? It didn't take a rocket scientist to know that AJ was just going to stay on the front foot and not let Jake breathe. Even if he moved around and AJ didn't cut off the ring as much as he wanted to early on, he was going to be in Jake's face the entire Time. And yeah, when a guy that hits like AJ hits you with 10 ounce gloves on, that hurts. And it will take it out of you if you get hit to the body. Those things zap your stamina like that.
- [45:34]
Commentator
I do want to know one thing, because I think one thing that is undeniable is your chin. I mean, anyone who questioned whether or.
- [45:43]
Podcast Host
Not you had a chin well before. Right. I'm interested to see what Logan says here. But Jake's chin has now fundamentally changed. Whatever his chin could take before, AJ just wrecked with a right hand down Main Street. And this is why I kind of worry about, about what's going to happen with Jake moving forward. I really do wonder how is his chin going to hold up? Because it one right hand just broke Everything about what made Jake's chin great. Like I said, coming into this fight, Jake's got a solid chin. He's got a head like a pit bull. It's hard to hurt him. And even the right hand AJ hit him with, I'm going to tell you now, there is not a heavyweight on the planet earth that takes that right hand flush and keeps fighting. The fact that Jake took it and didn't go out cold when a lot of heavyweights have and did should shocked me. Fact that he was able to still be conscious shocked me. That shows you how good of a chin Jake had. But that's gone now. Now it's replaced by metal and screws. And I just, I wonder how well does something synthetic like that hold up, especially if he gets touched on the chin again, if he, if he does fight again. This is why I, I part of the reason why I think this may put some things in perspective. We'll see. And again, I'm not saying Jake is going to take some time here before he comes back, but that's a major injury. He had a great chin. What does he have now with the, with the replacement and the four plates and the screws, how does it hold up going forward?
- [46:57]
Commentator
I think the answer to that question was proven last night, bro. You can take a shot. Anthony Joshua hits you with probably his hardest shot that we've seen drop every other single fighter that he's fought. Yeah, and he hit you in the face and not only did you not get knocked out, you dropped and said, wow.
- [47:15]
Jake Paul
I was like, wow, that was nice. I was on the ground, I was like, that was, that was a good shot, dude.
- [47:21]
Interviewer
Did he surprise you with his power?
- [47:24]
Jake Paul
No, to be honest, no. But I mean, he surprised my jaw.
- [47:28]
Podcast Host
Yeah, he did, Yeah. I mean, yeah, of course he did. Now, again, that was the most flush shot that AJ landed in the fight. So of course it surprised him. That's why he was on the ground saying, wow. Like, that was the shot that showed Jake the difference in what he had fought and what he was fighting. Right. So of course it's a bright. I think Jake is being a little, you know, I don't. Ego, whatever. He doesn't want to say, yeah, I walked in there and got surprised. Of course he did. It was that moment. Now, everything before that, I don't know. But he himself also said, like, yeah, that pressure was exhausting, and it was different, and it was something that I didn't feel before. So there were a lot of surprises in there for Jake that night, and I'm not gonna give him too much stick over it because he's probably fresh out of a surgery on morphine and all these other pain pills. But clearly it surprised him how hard AJ hit. Even if he had prepared for it, you can't really prepare for it.
- [48:18]
Commentator
There's that one photo. Your jaw looks like kind of off your face, bro.
- [48:21]
Jake Paul
It's literally snapped, dude. Completely snapped.
- [48:24]
Commentator
After the fight, you were like. I think, like, one of my teeth is. And you open your mouth. I was the first to see it. I went, oh. Oh, you broke.
- [48:32]
Jake Paul
You broke your jaw, dude.
- [48:34]
Commentator
On both sides, too.
- [48:35]
Jake Paul
But, yeah, I mean, I told everyone, though, that I would do better than Francis and that Francis kind of got no chin, so Francis Loki, soft.
- [48:45]
Interviewer
You made it further in Francis.
- [48:47]
Jake Paul
Yeah, so.
- [48:48]
Podcast Host
So the reason. Okay, so. So let's. Let's address this before they get into the next thing. By the way, I just saw a wild GP standing in the background, creepily. He was in the camo pants, so I almost didn't see him, but there he is. What is he doing? Did Jake do better than Francis Ngannou? I've seen this debate on the Internet today, and since the fight happened, I guess it's a question that has two answers. Number one, like, it depends on how you look. Look at the fight. Did Jake last longer? Did he beat aj and did he win around off aj? The answer is yeah. So technically, yeah, he. He did perform better in the fight in terms of winning one round, which I gave Jake one round and lasting longer than Francis did. Now, the counter argument to that, which one KSI has brought up among other people, is. Let me see if I can find the tweet here. The fact that Jake Paul, six rounds, lasted longer in the ring with Anthony Joshua than Francis, a two Rounds did is wild. KSI. Do you think people are stupid? One can't to fight, one came to survive. Yes. There's some truth in that, that Jake did employ a strategy that was very much a negative style of fighting. Stay away from the power. You could call it running and you'll be right. You can also say it's smart for a guy Jake size and, you know, understanding that AJ is a monster. It's also smart to fight that way. It's not the most aesthetically pleasing. It was not the most engaging for fans. But when Jake says he has a better chin than Francis, I start to wonder a little bit about that one because Francis got hit with a lot of flush punches in their fight and both guys got dropped multiple times in their fight. It just happened to be later on that Jake got hit with the flush punch. Now, again, you can attribute that to who's a better boxer or who had the better feet or whatever. When we were talking about chin specifically, Francis got hit with three or four flush. And I mean clean on the whistle punches because he was engaging in step into AJ and he was there for the fight. So did Jake do better than Francis in terms of winning around and being around longer? Yeah, technically Jake had more success versus Anthony Joshua. Was it a better performance? Both guys didn't really do much, so I don't know. Does Jake have a better chin? He got hit with again, some punches from aj, no doubt about it. But one flush punch that put him down and didn't knock him out cold. Francis got knocked out cold, but he got knocked out cold after taking like three or four flush punches.
- [51:04]
Interviewer
So debatable he wants rounds.
- [51:07]
Commentator
You know what that means?
- [51:08]
Interviewer
What? He's gotta.
- [51:09]
Commentator
He could be Francis.
- [51:13]
Podcast Host
Based on the lock.
- [51:14]
Jake Paul
Wow, that's a good idea.
- [51:15]
Commentator
He could be Francis.
- [51:17]
Podcast Host
I don't know if it's a good idea at this point. Now, it wasn't a good idea in retrospect to fight Anthony Joshua. I don't know if it was a good idea at that point to fight Francis. But Francis not accepting the fight in retrospect, if he does, if Jake wants to fight him now, may have been a smart option because now he gets a compromised Jake to a degree. We'll see how the jaw heals up. But can Jake just beat Francis by using the same strategy he used against aj? Maybe. Or maybe Francis finds his chin and Francis also hits like a mack trunk. I do think Jake's got better boxing fundamentals than Francis does in terms of when to throw, what to throw, where to Throw and using his feet. But Francis is a lot better than just a guy that had one boxing match. He stood toe to toe with, you know, Tyson Fury. It didn't go so well for him, but he stood toe to toe with aj. But could Jake beat Frank Francis? He's saying that, like he wants to fight him. And I just worry, like, maybe that's not the matchup you need coming right back in the summer of next year. Or if again, Jake comes back anytime soon at all, because one more detonation on that chin and how many times can you have reconstruction surgery?
- [52:15]
Jake Paul
I think maybe now he'll take it, like, and be like, oh, well, he.
- [52:19]
Commentator
Has something to prove.
- [52:20]
Jake Paul
Yeah.
- [52:21]
Interviewer
The resounding Twitter sentiment that just doesn't matter at all. But all the haters last night, their storyline was. Was that you were moving around a lot, which. Which I just.
- [52:32]
Jake Paul
I know.
- [52:33]
Interviewer
I just don't get it. Like, what do you. Like, what do they expect you to do? So. So Joshua is going to walk you down every time.
- [52:40]
Podcast Host
Unless I.
- [52:41]
Jake Paul
Unless I die, people will still hate me. It is.
- [52:44]
Commentator
It is. It is so true.
- [52:45]
Podcast Host
That is true. And I don't even want to be one of these, like, again. I'm not trying to be a Jake Glazer, but it is true. Like, you. Jake was never going to please everybody last night. If Jake would have went out there and knocked out Anthony Joshua, you would have seen people call it rigged. You know, I'm saying, like, you. You were seeing that already start to be in motion. Like, oh, AJ's got to take a fall. AJ can't knock him out, so it always will be something. But also, people are allowed to have their criticism for the way that Jake fought based on how he was talking about knocking out aj. But I didn't mind the way he fought. I knew that was the only way he could fight. But it just wasn't an aesthetically pleasing way to fight for fans. It wasn't entertaining for fans to see Jake do that and then, you know, get into the clinch so much, and then, you know, AJ push on him. Him fall to the ground, and then eventually AJ wasn't even pushing on him, and Jake would fall to the ground. That stuff wasn't engaging for fans. So I have no problem with people being like, yeah, Jake, you ran. You were a runner. You are a track star. You can't get away when they get high. I don't mind people saying that because it's true. That's what he did.
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Commentator
There's two pools of people in this fight. One pool is, holy shit, mad respect to Jake Paul, what a fighter, absolute warrior. The other is ran around the whole fight, shot takedowns, blah, blah, blah. Like, bro, God bless that ladder group because you guys are so stupid. And like, I hope that, I hope that life pans out for you because if you're unable to see this fight for what it is, you, you have a level of dark hatred, black, that.
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Interviewer
Is just a lot of them are just really stupid. That's also true and that's fine.
- [54:15]
Podcast Host
But it's not just people are hating Jake or stupid. They are also wanting to see if Jake can go toe to toe with Anthony Joshua because that's what they expect a fight to be. And that's, you know, the same casual audience that will watch a Logan Paul fight are the ones he's calling stupid and stuff like that. I'm not going to call those people stupid. Not everyone is a boxing expert. Not everyone understands the complexities and nuances of how Jake was going to have to approach this fight. They just wanted to see a know, knock down, drag out fight because that's what, when they're building this fight for, that's what the idea is. Jake and AJ are going to have a fight and Jake and AJ are both talking about killing each other in there and Jake and AJ are both talking about inflicting damage. And you know, we saw that from one side. And again, Jake did land some punches, but it was few and far between because it kind of had to be few and far between. And if you didn't expect that, you don't understand the complexities of how Jake had to approach fighting that much of a bigger guy with that much power in his punches. But that's okay. It doesn't make them stupid, it just makes them not boxing experts.
- [55:13]
Interviewer
The only thing that I'll say take away from the Internet for a second is like, it seemed like that was what the problem was for your conditioning you out. You were moving a lot.
- [55:22]
Jake Paul
It was just mental, really. It was just like the, him, him imposing his will on me and being massive in the big shots, landing and then, yeah, it pretty much all goes downhill from there.
- [55:36]
Podcast Host
And this is something that A.J. told you, if we remember back, he told Jake that I'm going to need to take your soul. And he didn't mean it in terms of just physically. He was like, I'm going to have to break you mental. I have to play with your mind. I know Jake's a very mental guy and that's what Jake is essentially saying happened Jake was like, no one can break me. You know, only God can do that. But that's what Jake is saying without saying happened to him, is that AJ's size and his frame was so mentally taxing in the chess game of avoid the big punches, but also, you know, know, try to land on this guy. Eventually, it got to Jake's head that it was not going to work, and it wasn't working, and AJ was still in his face. And that takes a mental toll on you. And when it affects you mentally, it affects you physically. Right? It. It. It zaps your gas tank. It makes you overly concerned about the punches coming in versus executing on your end. So, ironically, AJ was exactly correct on what he was going to do to Jake and what ended up happening. It took a little longer than I thought it would, but that message he sent to Jake about taking his stuff, soul breaking his soul, stomping all over him, doing all that, beating him mentally. AJ kind of did that exactly the way he said he would.
- [56:43]
Jake Paul
I just needed to have that extra level of cardio for this, and that would. That only can come from going to altitude to Colorado.
- [56:51]
Podcast Host
And can I add that you were very sick for 10 days?
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Interviewer
No, we can't do this sneeze three times thing right now.
- [56:58]
Podcast Host
He didn't sneeze three times, but that takes away from your cardio when you. You recovering from illness.
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Commentator
I think the. I think the camp wasn't 100. Is that accurate?
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Interviewer
That's kind of what I was gonna ask. Like, do you feel like it was your best camp?
- [57:12]
Jake Paul
No. I mean, just because, like, I was weighing, like, 200 pounds when we confirmed the fight, and then I had to gain more weight, but, I mean, yeah, man, it's a great experience overall to be in there with someone who's that good. Good. I learned a lot, and I see where I could have done better. So I'm. I'm. I'm a little disappointed. But I also know how good he is.
- [57:39]
Podcast Host
So I said this in the Andrew Tate video. I'll say it here. Even though Jake's not really the one offering up the excuses. I know it's his mom and his brother and Mike trying to give him, like, trying to hold the branch out and be like, yeah, grab onto this to. To make some sense of this. You can't have any excuses at this point. If you're Jake, the people around him, sure, that's his family, whatever. You took a fight on short notice that you knew the risk of risks for you changed the fight from Gervonte to aj. And you knew that you were changing everything about the fight. So I don't want to hear the, oh, I could have done this. My cardio would have been better, that if I would have done this, that it doesn't matter. No ifs. In the fight game, the ring is the chamber of truth for a reason. And the reason that Jake lost isn't because he didn't go to altitude. It's not because he wasn't 230 instead of 220. It was because AJ is levels above, above him as a boxer and as a actual heavyweight. Size, frame, reach, strength, all of it. And at the end of the day, he's just better and that's it. And that's okay. Jake did, I think as well as I, as you could have asked him.
- [58:37]
Jake Paul
To do, but I had him wobbled at one point.
- [58:40]
Andrew Tate
You landed some.
- [58:41]
Jake Paul
I had him wobbled and I was like, he kept his hands up better this fight.
- [58:46]
Commentator
You landed that right hand.
- [58:47]
Podcast Host
Yeah, and, and yeah, Jake did not have him wobbled. I know the right hand he's talking about, and I, I, maybe we can even find it. This is the shot that they're referring to that Jake landed on aj might have been that shot, right? That was the shot that Jake said he wobbled AJ with. He hit him with some right hands. Here's one of them. Right hand over the top. He kind of landed it with an open fist because Jake gets very wide when he steps off with a jab to the body. But he brings a lot of power behind that punch. So much so his feet come off the ground, which usually leaves him in a bad spot defensively. But if you land it, it doesn't really matter. He lands this right hand, it's a right hand. But AJ is not wobbled from that shot, but it was a big shot, like nothing to take away from, from Jake. All credit to him for even attempting those kind of shots, let alone landing that shot. That was a huge shot to land. But AJ is just, again, he's a full fledged 6, 6 2, probably 250 at that point, heavyweight, and just ate the shit. Right? That's, that's all it is. Now what he says after that, in terms of AJ's hands being in the right place, he for sure looked at that Daniel Dubois fight and went, if I land on AJ with his hands in the wrong place, I can maybe follow up and land another big one. Because Dubois did that and AJ came out with some absolute nonsensical defense versus Dubois, where his hands were down he was just, I don't think he took Dubois seriously, as he should have, and Daniel fucked him up.
- [60:12]
Commentator
Are you going to keep boxing?
- [60:14]
Jake Paul
Yeah. You really love this, huh? Yeah, I'm going to take some time off. Off to go support Utah at the Olympics. So then she's gonna move to Puerto Rico. Move her here, maybe go snowboarding or something.
- [60:30]
Commentator
Maybe get estimate some cousins.
- [60:32]
Jake Paul
Yeah, that, that part. Honestly, I'm ready, bro. I, I have such baby fever. Yeah. Like, I want, I want kids so bad.
- [60:41]
Commentator
Yeah, you're gonna be a great dad.
- [60:43]
Podcast Host
That's dope to hear. I know people aren't gonna really care about none of that, but I'm in that stuff. Same portion of life where I'm like, you know, I'm about ready to start a family and we've got my dog Rocky, and, and my girlfriend Chloe's moving in and I don't know, I, I, I resonate with that kind of stuff, you know, so that's cool to hear. Now, before we move on with, you know, whatever else is, is going on here, let's talk about Jake potentially continuing to box. Now, Jake just had a four metal plate surgery in his jaw. Now, jaw surgeries, I wouldn't say they're, they're common in boxing in terms of like, oh yeah, every day there's a boxer getting four plates put their, their mouth and eight screws drilled in. But there are a number of boxing jaw surgeries that have happened and one of the biggest one in recent memory is Jaya Pattaya. Jayal Pattaya in 2022 broke his jaw in two places. It was bilateral, just like Jake's. Now, I don't know if it was as bad where he had four plates and eight screws in it, but he did have bilateral. It helps to think of the mandible in two pieces from one ear down to the middle of the chin and up the other side. Now, when Jaya Pattaya had it done, he went, went and got it fixed. And at the time, the answer is like, will it affect him going forward? And one of the, I don't think this is the surgeon that actually worked on it, but a surgeon that looked at the X rays and had an opinion said, no. The short answer is no, I don't think so. He won't have any problems returning. Once the bone fuses the way it was before, the likelihood of it fracturing from another trauma is not any higher because of these fractures. If you do take a look at the X ray a year after, the only thing you'll see is the screws and the plates plate used to fix the fracture. You won't see a fracture whether it was in the front or the back or if it was displaced, the jaw will fuse back. So for someone like him, I do plates on the top and bottom. You take precautions. You allow waiting time for it to heal and maybe modifications to treatment. Because of his lifestyle, you do everything you can for their treatment. We have a concept of medicine called patient centered treatment. So you're the teacher. We treat the jaw fracture. Da da da, da, da da. So essentially this doctor is saying, yeah, it's, it's not a problem to do this surgery and have an athlete come back. And apparently it won't actually hurt the sustainability of Jake's jaw to have this surgery done. In fact, it will fuse the bone back together. And what you would see if you x rayed this again is simply the. The plates and the screws in his face. Apparently that means it would be as good as new, I guess. Even though it doesn't make a lot of sense to me, I've. I always have held the belief every time you go under the knife, you take away a percentage of the structural integrity of whatever it was you had previously. Right. I've had many surgeries. No fractures that I've had to have, you know, you know, plates or screws on. But I have had to have a screw in my arm for my bicep surgery and X, Y and Z. And I've never come back the same. And maybe that's an error on my part. But I do wonder, you know, how much damage can Jake take? You're already seeing his nose look like a crescent moon. He's got now four plates, eight screws in his jaw. He's talking about having kids. He's gonna marry Utah. Also. The parent recovery for this is about six to eight weeks. And he's gonna be eating apparently only liquids and drinking only liquids for four weeks. So he may lose a lot of weight during that time. Maybe that's a bless disguise for him to go, yeah, no, I need to be a cruiserweight or maybe even, heaven forbid, go down to light heavyweight, which I think he would be way better at. But then again, he's gotten so big now, he maybe can't do that. Regardless, it doesn't seem like this will affect Jake long term. But then again, it's always when you have a, I think a major surgery like that, I don't know if you can ever be sure. So he wants to continue boxing. Fair play to him. But at least there is precedent in the past for a surgery like this in JAP and many other boxers. And apparently as you see now, J. Pattaya is still a bad in 2025, you can recover. Think there's anything else we're going to get from this video? But the, the question I had coming into it was, is Jake's boxing career going to come to an end because of this double jaw surgery? Is this going to modify his career? Is it going to change his future in any way? And is the lost Anthony Joshua going to change his future? These things I don't have answers for. They just came out with the number. We'll look at this really quickly. Anthony Joshua And Jake did 33 million live viewers, 15 million for the co main top 10 on Netflix in 91 countries. Number one in 45, highest gate. The history of the Kaseya Center. This is a success for Jake and Joshua, but it isn't what they said it would be. Which was the fight that beat Canelo and Terence Crawford. That fight did 41 million. So boxing in the boxing gatekeepers are going to pump their fist on that one and say, we got you. But this number, you know, the, the Mike Tyson fight was over 100 million. I think you can see now that Mike was a megastar in that case. But still, 33 million is an insane number to have for this fight, especially on the short notice and all that. But with all that being said, Jake, if he has the opponent we know can sell even after this loss to Anthony Joshua, I don't think that'll change very much. But I do think in the minds of the people that watch, they want to see Jake fight, they want to see him box. And they want something that they know will be competitive. They want something that there is a equal chance of him winning and losing. Because the strategy as of late has been Jake will win easily or Jake will be destroyed and that it gets by for a while. But eventually you return to the question of are you trying to be in the sport to be competitive or are you trying to be in the sport to put on events and make a ton of money? And those two things can go together. They just haven't recently for Jake, which is why I think his next move should be after a long layoff, Tommy Fury. And even then, has enough changed for Jake to win the rematch? I don't have those answers, but we're going to be out for a while. We'll see what Jake decides. Will it be Francis Ngannou? Will it be be Some other fight. Is he going to try to make a play to elevate himself in the cruiserweight division? Maybe even KSI? I'm kidding. That fight's dead in the water. What happens with Jake in 2026? Don't have those answers, but guess we'll find out. All right, folks, we are back on the way. Concept presented by the Ring magazine now. Yet in a way just finished a dominant performance versus Alan Picasso. And the fight was one sided. It was a complete wash, clean sweep, 12 rounds in the book for in a way, the fight was in Saudi Arabia, different time frame. I've been on a a plane all day traveling to North Carolina. But the fight's over and we have to break it down. And I need to talk to you guys about potential future matchups for in a way because this dude needs a massive fight. He's such a fantastic boxer, so talented that I feel like if we don't get one for him. Sue, he's 32 years old. I feel like the matchups that already could have been and maybe maybe still can be are falling by the wayside. And I don't want to waste this guy's prime as it sits right now as a top pound for pound boxer in the world in a way dominates. Let's talk about it. The breakdown. Let's go. In a way versus Picasso. This was a work of art, no pun intended. This was in a way hitting Picasso with so many punches. He probably wanted to cut off his ears once so we didn't hear him coming in two because that Humphrey was still rigging from the fist hitting him on the side of the head. This was a in a way style performance. He still got hit with punches. Right. This is something we've seen out of Inoue. Even as a massive favorite. He was minus 4,500 in this fight. Let's just call it what it is. We knew this was probably going to be the case. He was going to win my big time knockout or very easy decision. Turns out to be the latter. But we knew he was probably going to get hit with punches. The left hook still seems to be a sore spot, an open area if you want to attack. In a way, he's been put on the deck and had his orbit a little fractured by that left hook. It's a dangerous punch that I don't know if he just doesn't see it sometimes or just his style. Where his hands are, where his hand placement is, it gets him caught with it. So that's something that in a way is going to have to take care of going forward. But outside of that it was flawless. I mean watching this guy box, watching him get more aggressive when he gets hit or watch him throw his combination punches, move in the matrix, be defense to offense, back to offense defense, the transitions between the way he eats up space with his offense and even while being in front of you, I mean he is very, very, very good. Good. And he's a pleasure to watch for the lower weight classes. And again we talk about top five pound for pound. Terence Crawford is out of the list now because he is officially retired. Although as of this recording I think he might be doing a live stream with Aiden Ross will cover if anything crazy happens. But yeah, so of course he holds his pound for pound standing. He takes down another undefeated fighter. But we knew this was coming. This was not a surprise that in a way went out and was in a way once again it was completely one sided. Like I said, a 12 oh sweep. The fight wasn't close and it wasn't meant to be. The fight was meant to set up him versus Nakatani and that's the fight in Japan that's probably going to sell a ton of tickets. It's going to probably attract a ton of eyes from not just, you know, people in Japan but across the world. Problem is Nakatani damn near lost his fight on the undercard. And I'll be honest, from the outsider's perspective, I could see him actually losing that fight. Even though he got the decision, he got beat up, he got his eye damn near swell shut and I think some of the steam might have been lifted off of that fight because this is another issue that boxing continuously has. Is this set up the fight by having them both on the same card to build to their fight? It's still a fight. At the end of the day, these things can go wrong very, very, very quickly. And it's happened time and time again throughout the sport where we wait one fight too long to set up a major super fight that we can as fans be excited for and see a true test of who's the best at their given weight. This one almost backfired again as Nakatani barely holds on to win a decision. And I think that's the fight that Inoue wants next. I think that's the fight that would make most sense for Japan obviously where he'll probably be fighting now again, we'll see. Is he going to do something in the us? Is he going to do something in Saudi Arabia? Again he's with the Ring magazine, but Japan has a thriving boxing scene with obviously these two ring ambassadors, the Sumi brothers. I've seen Rito fight a couple, a couple different times now. He is a phenom, so I'm excited to see all those matchups. But this one, you know, the Nakatani performance kind of took a little bit of this shine off of what would be a big fight and still is, in my opinion, still is a big fight. Because Inoue has tendencies and he has vulnerabilities and he's a dog, right? So if you do get in a scrap with him, he'll scrap it out with you. This is why we love watching him fight. But I'll be honest, I would rather see him fight. Bam Rodriguez is, I think that's the fight to make. I know Bam would have to come up in weight, but we're talking what, £4? We're talking, you know, a very minimal jump in weight that easily I think can be made. And again, we're not. We're talking about fight weight versus walk around weight and how different that is. I understand. But Bam looked so good in his last fight, dropping late in the fight after dominating on a ring card, on the the ring for essentially all gold card. His performance was one of the standout performance performances. Dominating the fight late into the fight, then drops his opponent wins by stoppage in a big time performance. And he was getting trash talked all week. A massive moment, pressure filled and he delivered. That would be the fight I want to see that. That's the fight I think a lot of boxing fans want to see because in the lower weight classes we've seen stars be produced by name recognition, fighting name recognition in their ipso facto primes. Now again, in a way is aging out of his prime, I would say at 32 years old. But he's still got some juicy left. He still has top level performances left in his tank. And I know Bam is the next generation of the lower weight class boxing, but he is talented, he's fast, he's got a mean streak. All the things that you love about in a way, in a similar way you love about Bam Rodriguez. They're very quiet, unassuming guys, very respectful for the sport, but once they get in, absolute murderers. And that's what we want to see that matchup. Now again, weight classes we've had this discussion about in a way in Tank Davis and that fight's pretty much all the way gone now at this point. I mean, think about the missed opportunities that Tank Davis has had in terms of name recognition and Money fights with potentially, in a way, if you could agree on a weight, which would be way too far gone now, I think because of how out of shape and bigger Tank Davis has got. But Shakur Stevenson was there, Devin Haney was there, Tio was there. Loma was there. There. There have been so many different opportunities, but Tank is his Tank and he tanked his career. But yeah, man, I think that this would be an insane fight in a way. Bam Rodriguez do it here in the States. I know that's a little bit selfish of me as a, as a, you know, somebody American watching boxing, but I think it'd be a real opportunity to have, in a way cross over into an American market and also to build the, the, the prowess and the stardom and the name recognition of a guy like Bam Rodriguez. Main, that could be a main event in America, definitely would be a main event in Japan. But that's just me being selfish. That matchup's probably not next, I'll be honest. It probably won't happen for a very long, long time.
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Andrew Tate
It.
- [72:55]
Podcast Host
It could be in a way in his late 30s before BAM and him match up. And I don't know whose side that'll be on. I saw that in a way called out Bam, also called out Nakatani, which again, I think will be the fight. So I love him taking names. I love him saying, this is who I want to fight. I hope that happens. But yeah, that's, that's my main takeaway.
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Interviewer
Again.
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Podcast Host
We could sit here and do the X's and O's breakdown of a 12 round sweep, but let's be honest, it was really just a showcase for Naoya in a way. That was his showcase again and again. I don't necessarily like those kind of fights, but it's hard not to like watching in a way, fight and in Saudi Arabia, different environment. There's something with the hand wraps before the fight about some legality issues they were having. And the last time someone complained about In a Way's hand wraps, he damn near left them comatose. So surprised that Picasso got out of there without his face. Rearranged bars, but yeah, complete domination. Again, combination of violence with the sweet science, that is what makes a boxer, in my opinion. It isn't just the sweet science. It isn't just the brawling, you know, violent mentality. It is violence personified as art. It is the art of war, right? The ability to be a violent individual, but then be able to control it and let that be stout when the time has come. But be strategic and technical until that time comes setting up your deadly weapon whether it's that right hand or the left. So big time performance for Inoue sets up some new things for him going forward. Sets up potentially a Bam Rodriguez fight, but most likely a showdown in Japan with Nakatani. I think that's the most likely scenario of this. And listen, I was more more hype before this fight for that matchup, but I'm still hyped for the matchup because it is fighting and anything can happen. I'll tell you that I'm more hyped for a matchup like that than I am something like Deontay Wilder and Alexander Usyk which will probably happen in 2026 instead of when it should be Alexander Usyk and you know, Fabio Wardley or Moses Atalma. Those fights make a whole lot more sense than that. But sometimes I guess name recognition pays the bills Regardless. Regardless in a way does his thing once again. Absolutely dominates. What you Expect is a minus 4,500 favorite but you still got to go out there, put the gloves on and get it done. Nakatani barely skates by after kind of getting pieced the up. Don't really know how he won a decision there. That matchup seems next but give me Bam Rodriguez and now you're in a way yesterday. I need that fight. I want that fight. I hope we get that fight but don't have those answers. So what happens for in a way next? Will it be be Nakatani probably. Or will it be Bam Rodriguez and can we get those big name staple fights for him as he starts to enter that twilight of his prime again, the Bam fight. I know I'm pushing for it but I don't have those answers so guess we'll find out. This is an iHeart podcast. Guaranteed Human.