THE W.A.D.E. Concept - WEEK IN REVIEW - Dana White GOES OFF on the Paul brothers Opponents, Eubank Vs Benn 2 Presser and Raja Jackson gets ARRESTED...

Summary

THE W.A.D.E. Concept – Week in Review

Podcast: The Herd with Colin Cowherd
Episode: Dana White GOES OFF on the Paul Brothers’ Opponents, Eubank Vs Benn 2 Presser, and Raja Jackson gets ARRESTED...
Date: September 23, 2025

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Episode Overview

This episode covers a packed week in combat sports and influencer boxing. The major themes are:

• Dana White’s renewed public feud with the Paul brothers over “fixed fight” accusations
• The Eubank Jr. vs. Connor Benn 2 press conference—fireworks, personal animosity, and wild allegations
• Breaking news: Raja Jackson, son of MMA legend Rampage Jackson, gets arrested for felony assault after a violent incident at a wrestling show

The episode breaks down interviews, press conferences, and news items with the show's trademark blend of irreverence and sharp analysis.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Dana White vs. Jake & Logan Paul: “Fixed Fight” Allegations

(Segment starts [02:04])

• Background: Dana White, UFC President, joins a conversation with Jake Paul, discussing ongoing beef and public accusations that Paul’s fights are staged or fixed.

• Diss Track Recall – The commentator describes Logan Paul’s “diss track” on Dana White, poking fun at fighter pay and the UFC, but with questionable storytelling ([02:28]).

• Dana’s Position: Dana White denies hating the Paul brothers, but calls out their litigious attitude:

  “Talks more shit than anybody else on the planet. Now him and the Warlock are running around trying to fucking sue people...” —Dana White ([03:19])

  • ("The Warlock" refers to Nikisa Bidarian, Jake Paul's manager.)

• Suing over 'Fixed Fights' Claims: Jake and “the Warlock” have begun sending cease-and-desists or considering lawsuits toward reputable media accusing them of fight fixing. Dana acknowledges why Jake does it, but also notes:

  “Who gives a shit? Fucking ignore it and just keep doing your thing.” —Dana White ([09:42])

• Issue of Weight Classes: Dana criticizes the Paul brothers for fighting smaller opponents, referencing the prospect of Jake Paul fighting Gervonta Davis:

  “You guys need to fight guys your fucking same size. ...When you fought Floyd, you are massive. ...Floyd’s tiny.” —Dana White ([05:24])

• Suing Journalists vs. Randoms:
  Discusses the difference between going after real journalists versus random Twitter comments; Dana says he’d act if it were, say, Piers Morgan calling UFC fights fixed, but not over random online chatter.

• Event as Spectacle vs. Sport:
  The commentator distinguishes between sports (driven by legacy and competition) and influencer events (driven by spectacle and maximizing eyeballs), arguing it’s a fundamental disconnect between promoters like Dana White and entertainment-minded stars like Logan and Jake Paul ([10:56]).

• Relationship Status:
  Jake asks Dana if the relationship could ever be mended:

  “Yeah, we can be cordial. I have no problem with you, bro. ...We are in the fucking fight business, man. Lots of mean things are said.” —Dana White ([13:15])

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2. Eubank vs Benn 2: The Wild Press Conference

(Segment starts [16:57])

a. Setting the Stage

• Eubank Jr. won the first fight, now Ben wants redemption. Both their fathers famously fought twice—this is a rivalry embedded in British boxing.

b. Key Themes

• Chris Eubank Jr.: Master of Mind Games
  Eubank Jr. uses monologues and trolls Eddie Hearn and Connor Ben. On Ben’s support post-defeat:

  “This was the first time in my life that I’ve ever seen a fighter lose and then go on some type of victory tour.” —Chris Eubank Jr. ([36:53])

• Eubank Jr. Unleashed on Hearn and the Board

  • Accuses Eddie Hearn (promoter) and match officials of sabotaging his preparation: blocked his team from entering the venue, delayed his ambulance after the fight, and fined him for missing weight by a small margin.

  “Even on fight night, they blocked my team from coming to the stadium for 30 minutes. ...Afterwards, due to severe dehydration, I'm put in an ambulance... These scumbags blocked that ambulance from leaving the stadium for 20 minutes...” —Chris Eubank Jr. ([25:53]; [29:04])

  • Calls Robert Smith (British Boxing Board of Control chair) an “idiot” and a “scumbag toad puppet,” questioning where all the fine money goes ([49:48]).
  • Throws direct accusations:

    “The money simply seems to be lining the pockets of fat cats on the board like Robert Smith…” —Chris Eubank Jr. ([49:48])

• Eddie Hearn fights back:
  Eddie Hearn is unusually animated in his rebuttals, calling out Eubank’s “fantasies” and responding to personal jabs.

  “We see through your games. ...You don't talk shit about things that you want to fantasize about.” —Eddie Hearn ([34:35]) “He blocks ambulances. Blocks ambulances, loses toenails.” —Eddie Hearn ([53:13])

• Connor Ben’s Take:
  Honest about his mistakes, Ben admits he underestimated Eubank, pledges to fight with less emotion:

  “I was too busy going in there trying to hurt him over getting the wins.” —Connor Ben ([56:25])

• Press Conference Highlights:

  • Tense Moments: Eubank Jr. repeatedly interrupts Hearn, including when Hearn tries to say a tribute to Ricky Hatton (recently deceased UK boxing legend), drawing criticism ([41:43]).
  • Accusations & Mind Games: Eubank accuses Matchroom (Hearn) of blocking his ambulance ([31:05]) and alleges British Board bias ([44:59]). Hearn warns these comments are defamatory and seems to hint at potential legal action.
  • Comic Relief: The pair mock each other's popularity and Netflix documentaries:

    “You made me a lot of money in that documentary... People’s champ’s got six episodes – five hours of working. You can pull your plonker off in Brighton all night to that, you’ll be loving it.” —Eddie Hearn ([52:58])

c. Analysis by Commentator

• The commentator notes Eubank’s techniques are psychological warfare—he’s shifted from rattling Connor to focusing on Eddie Hearn, and may be going too far with allegations, possibly flirting with libel.
• On the actual fight: the focus will be whether Connor Ben can implement technical improvements rather than succumb to emotion if Eubank Jr. gets under his skin again ([59:24]).

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3. Breaking News: Raja Jackson Arrested for Felony Assault

(Segment starts [59:31])

• Incident Summary:
  Raja Jackson, son of Rampage Jackson, was filmed violently assaulting pro wrestler Stuart Smith (“Psycho Stu”) at a Los Angeles wrestling show. After weeks without arrest, LAPD finally detained him on felony assault charges.

• Details of Assault:
  Jackson body-slammed Smith unconscious, then delivered 20+ punches to the already-unconscious man before being stopped by other wrestlers. Smith suffered a fractured maxilla bone and multiple broken teeth ([59:31],~[74:10]).

• Commentator's Verdict:
  The host is outraged at both Raja Jackson’s behavior and the wrestling promotion’s handling, expressing disbelief this isn't attempted murder, and slamming those who thought it was a wrestling “work.”

  “He consciously chose to go in there and again, I think punch Psycho Stew until he got tired. Regardless of the outcome, I don’t think there was any point in Raj’s head where he went, I might kill this guy. I need to stop... No, I think he was going to punch him until he got tired enough to where he just physically couldn’t.” —Commentator ([74:10])

• Legal Outcome:
  Raja Jackson rapidly posts $50,000 bail and is released. Rampage Jackson, his father, is apologetic but claims there’s “nothing he can do” ([74:10-end]).

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Dana White, on Paul brothers suing over ‘fixed fights’:
  “Who gives a shit? Fucking ignore it and just keep doing your thing.” ([09:42])

• Dana White on ‘circus fights’:
  “They look at these events like blockbuster events. They don’t look at them as sporting events. They look at them as spectacle.” ([10:56])

• Chris Eubank Jr., on Eddie Hearn:
  “These men are not men of the people. ...Wolves in sheep's clothing, if you will. ...Ruthless, immoral, and without restraint.” ([24:05])

• Eddie Hearn withering rebuttal:
  “You talk shit. We see through your games. ...You're calling the chairman of the British Boxing Board of Control a scumbag? The mask is slipping, Christopher.” ([48:52], [48:57])

• Ben on his loss:
  “It's always hard processing a loss. ...Want to go back to the drawing board and work and learn, gain experience. And experience was gained. So no doubt, November 15th, you get their version.” ([18:33])

• On Raja Jackson arrest:
  “...Could that not also be a charge as well? ...Not only are we talking about him assaulting this man, but then leaving the scene of the crime.” ([59:31 onward])

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Important Timestamps

• [02:04] — Dana White vs. Jake Paul: beef, lawsuits, and fighter pay
• [03:19] — Dana’s “Warlock” (Nikisa) comment; lawsuits over ‘fake fights’
• [05:24] — Dana on Paul brothers fighting smaller men
• [09:42] — “Who gives a shit?” — Dana White on handling rumors/slander
• [10:56] — Analysis: Sport vs. Spectacle
• [16:57] — Start of Eubank Jr. vs. Ben II Press Conference breakdown
• [25:53] — Eubank Jr. ambulance/sabotage accusations
• [34:17] — Intense Eddie Hearn vs. Eubank Jr. verbal sparring
• [40:37] — Eubank Jr. gets Bomac as his trainer; implications analyzed
• [41:43] — Eubank Jr. interrupts Ricky Hatton tribute
• [49:48] — Eubank Jr. publicly questions British Board; calls out 'corruption'
• [52:19] — Eddie Hearn’s Netflix documentary; mutual trolling
• [56:25] — Connor Ben reflects on mistakes and his mindset in the rematch
• [59:31] — Breaking news: Raja Jackson arrest, details of the wrestling show assault, commentator analysis

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Conclusion

This episode is an intense, detailed look into the wild and unpredictable world of crossover combat sports. From Dana White’s unfiltered takedowns of influencer boxing to the pure theatre of the Eubank Jr. vs. Ben press conference (and all the accusations that came with it), and finally to hard-hitting news about real-life violence in the fight world, the show blends deep analysis, unvarnished opinion, and memorable moments into a must-listen summary of the week’s events.

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For more insights, check the individual segment timestamps for the juiciest exchanges and most impactful quotes!

Transcript

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This is the thing I really wanted to look at. I really wanted to see this part. The Dana White Jake Paul beef. Will it ever end? Apparently Logan asked him about it on the show, so let's take a listen.

[Jake Paul]

While we're doing it, there's another bridge I'd like to. I'd like to maybe connect. Dude, is the. Is the. Is the burnt bridge with my brother unfixed.

[Eddie Hearn]

I don't.

[Dana White]

I don't hate your brother.

[Jake Paul]

He made a diss track on you, though.

[Dana White]

You know what's funny about your brother? So your brother.

[Podcast Commentator]

Y' all remember the diss track? The diss track was unironically not bad. It was a pretty good song. He accidentally made a pretty Good diss track. Although the storyline of the diss track was a little odd if you guys remember. Like, Jake in the whole thing is advocating for fighter pay, but then he's also making fun of Jorge Masvidal for never making any money. And then he's like, advocating for fighter insurance and, like, how you can't. UFC fighters don't get their stuff paid out after they retire, while he's also beating the shit out of the guy that comes to the hospital to get help. And then the whole time you wonder how the guy got beat up in the first place. And it turns out Jake jumped into the MMA cage and beat him up with a chair. So he was the culprit the whole time. I don't know if they thought the story beats through, but yeah, he got someone to act as Dana. Chris Cyborg was in the. Was in the video that time on YouTube for. For my channel was insane.

[Dana White]

Talks more shit than anybody else on the planet. Now him and the Warlock are running around trying to fucking sue people. They're trying to fucking sue people when people talk shit.

[Podcast Commentator]

Well, oh, my God, he called Nikisa the Warlock again. Oh, no, dude. You know, Nikisa is going to respond to that. You know he's going to. And Jake probably will too, because this is how it goes. Things die down. And ironically, usually it's Dana that starts talking about it again. To be fair, he was asked here, Logan asked him about this beef with Jake, at himself, but Jake usually doesn't start it. Usually Dana says something. He said he got him in the Warlock running around suing people. To be fair, some of the people are saying things that are clearly false and they're just acting as if it's true. And I don't like the whole, oh, we're suing, we're suing. But, like, Dana would sue people, too, if every single time he put on an event, someone was saying it was like, reputable. People were saying that they were fake fights and that they were being rigged. You know, like, if he had Piers Morgan saying that in front of a bunch of people, like actual, reputable sources saying that he would take action too. Probably wouldn't have said it publicly. It probably just been behind the scenes. But you can't, like, you. And I get what he's saying, too. You can't, like, sue random Twitter accounts, be like, oh, fake fight, wake fight, that you're never gonna win. But, like, reputable, actual journalists, sources, you know, commentators, and the Nelk boys brought.

[Dana White]

This up to me and, you know, I'm sure, there's people out there saying, you know, that they're fake fights, they're fixed, and all this other fucking bullshit, but I think what people mean when they talk about it is, you know, he's. He's going to fight fucking Gervonta Davis. It's. It's like when you.

[Podcast Commentator]

Who do you got?

[Dana White]

You guys need to fight guys.

[Podcast Commentator]

Please tell me that was a cut. Please tell me that was a cut. Yo, Mike's funny as. Dude, Mike said, who you got? After this whole conversation about fake fights and how the fights are bullshit, Mike's like, no, seriously, though, who you got?

[Dana White]

Gervonta Davis. It's. It's like when you.

[Podcast Commentator]

Who do you got?

[Dana White]

You guys need to fight guys your fucking same size. You know what I mean?

[Podcast Commentator]

Straight up ignore.

[Dana White]

When you fought Floyd, you are massive. You're a massive fucking dude. Floyd's tiny. And I'm sure when you were training, you're like, all right, I'm going to hit this guy with a couple punches and grab him, tie him up and. And he did hit you with a fucking bomb of an overhand right one time, and you fucking ate it. You ate that punch.

[Podcast Commentator]

Logan's, like, proud of it. He's like, yeah, I did. Hell yeah. I ate that punch from 140 pounder. You're damn right, dude. Now, granted, it's Floyd Mayweather, but you're still £200, dog. You know what I mean? This is why, and I agree with Dana on this, this is why the Gervonta fight makes no sense to me. Because even yes, Floyd didn't have the punching power Gervonta had. But even if Gervontae lands, I don't see him hurting Jake to the point he knocks him. So what are we even doing? Where is the idea of this gonna. Like, where's the idea that Gervonta is even going to hurt him? He may hurt him to the body, you know, whatever. Jake doesn't want to throw as much, but I don't see him one punch knocking Jake out. And, you know, the same thing was kind of said with Logan. Like, okay, Floyd probably won't knock him out, but probably going to outbox him. I get where Dana's coming from. These things are not meant to be competitive fights. They're meant to make money and to, I guess, scratch that itch of the circus, mystery unknown.

[Dana White]

And.

[Chris Eubank Jr.]

And.

[Dana White]

And Javante, I think hits way harder than Floyd, but he's too small. I mean, your brother's going to be able to, you know, get inside on him, put his weight on him, tie him up. But I don't hate your brother. Your brother's out there doing his thing. But it cracks me up that they want to start suing people that are talking. When your brother talks more than anybody talks, I think.

[Jake Paul]

I think the thought process behind it is, okay, so Jake and I are obviously pretty polarizing individuals. And when an echo chamber starts and a rumor mill starts of, like, stage fight bullshit, which, like, these fights aren't stage, you know, that's just. It's at that level, it's, like, almost impossible. I think they think that it affects the business and it affects the brand because people discredit him as actually having legitimate.

[Podcast Commentator]

Legitimate bouts.

[Jake Paul]

I think that's the theory. So to hold people accountable for.

[Podcast Commentator]

For.

[Dana White]

For legitimate.

[Jake Paul]

Perpetuating the rumor.

[Dana White]

Legitimate meaning not fixed.

[Podcast Commentator]

Correct. Right.

[Jake Paul]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Podcast Commentator]

And I. Which is. Which is. I mean, again, Dana would do the same thing if his. If his company came. Became known for doing fixed fights when they weren't, then he would try to find the same way to hold people accountable if they were reputable. People saying that. Right. So I don't. Again, the whole Jake suing people for. For blatantly trying to say he fixes fights or he stages fights, knockout clauses and all the other bullshit. I understand. Now, again, people need to use their words more accurately if they're upset about what Jake is doing. All you have to do if you're upset with the way Jake is moving in his career is say what people. What some people do say, which is, we like to see Jake challenge himself. We don't want to see these exhibitions, these fights that don't make sense for what you said you want to do or what you purport to want to be. In the sport of boxing, which is a world champion, we want to see you fight active fighters around your skill level. That's it. But you can't go on there and go, oh, look, another rigged fight. Oh, look, another fake fight. Oh, look, he's staging another one. Right? That. That's the thing. That's, again, false. So I get it. I get why they're upset, but I also get why people categorize it the way they do. You just got to be better with your words. That's it.

[Dana White]

And not many of the fights are legitimate fights, but not being fixed.

[Jake Paul]

Yeah, I.

[Dana White]

Hey, you hit me here, and I hit you there.

[Podcast Commentator]

Yeah.

[Jake Paul]

I mean, that's. Dana, that's insane.

[Podcast Commentator]

You. Like, I agree.

[Jake Paul]

Like, let's. Let's choreograph what are you gonna do?

[Dana White]

What are you gonna do if people are fucking saying stupid shit? People say dumb shit about me, my business, you know, all the time.

[Podcast Commentator]

True. This is another thing, too. Like when Logan was saying an echo chamber starts. How many people say crazy shit about the UFC and Dana? Not maybe on the fixed fight level, but they say some crazy shit. So it's like he's never. I mean, maybe he has sued some people, and. And that's probably out in public record at this point, but the fighter pay thing comes up all the time. You know, that's. That's. I mean, I don't know what you would really sue somebody over there, but I'm just saying there's. There's probably things that have been wrong or false that have come out about Dana that is said all the time.

[Dana White]

It's just, who gives a shit?

[Podcast Commentator]

Yeah.

[Dana White]

Fucking ignore it and just keep doing your thing.

[Jake Paul]

Have you guys ever sued anyone?

[Podcast Commentator]

Oh, good question.

[Dana White]

Good question. I don't think so.

[Chris Eubank Jr.]

Really?

[Dana White]

I don't think so. But in 25 years, I mean, we've obviously been in some shit.

[Podcast Commentator]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Jake Paul]

It happens. It happens.

[Podcast Commentator]

That's actually a really good question from Logan. He stuck it on him there. Fair play.

[Dana White]

Back in the old days, when we first bought this company, it was the wild, wild West. I mean, people were using our trademark, and it was crazy back then, but I don't think we ever had to sue anybody. We probably sent a couple letters out, sent some letters out saying, hey, knock it off, or we're going to sue you.

[Jake Paul]

I hear your.

[Podcast Commentator]

Which, by the way, I think is what Jake is doing. So, again, Dana being critical of it, like, now, again, if you're using someone's trademark and. And all that other stuff, that's a little different. But Jake is essentially sending out cease and desist.

[Jake Paul]

I hear your critique on fighting guys the same size as you. Is that why you guys would let me fight Conor?

[Dana White]

Is that why? What?

[Jake Paul]

Is that why you wouldn't let me fight Connor?

[Dana White]

You're fighting. You're. Yeah. You're huge. Conor weighs 145 pounds. 155 pounds.

[Podcast Commentator]

Yeah, but he says he beat me.

[Jake Paul]

And I think people would tune in.

[Dana White]

But everybody thinks that. I mean, everybody thinks if he said I can't beat Logan Paul, I mean, come on.

[Podcast Commentator]

Yeah, yeah, he's gonna say that.

[Dana White]

He's a professional fighter.

[Podcast Commentator]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. See, there's just a fundamental difference in the way an actual sports CEO and an entertainer look at sports. That's what I'm Getting with the entire, like, disparity between these, you know, influencer crossover boxing matches, especially the ones that Logan does. And now with Jake doing the same thing, sort of. There's just a fundamental difference in the way they look at things. They look at these events like blockbuster events. They don't look at them as sporting events. They look at him as spectacle. I mean, Logan's in the fucking WWE for God's sake. That's the way they look at and that's the way Jake looks at these kind of events. He does because he's fighting Gervonta Davis into any sports, hardcore competition. Morale, effort, you know, legacy, hierarchy minded sports person. None of it makes any sense because we go, well, no, Gervonta is not in Jake's weight class. What does that prove? We do sport to prove who's better at sport, not with inherent advantages or disadvantages or xyz. Logan and I guess Jake for that matter look at these like, we want to get the most eyes possible. Regardless of what people say, we in our. And I think that Logan and Jake both believe this because of the disadvantages we came into the sport with. If we are to do better than people expected or if we're able to win or knock someone out, then we're better, which is not true because there's massive disadvantages on the other end. I would say that outweigh the disadvantages on their end. At least Jake said the way they market these things and act like, if I beat Gervonte, I'm better or if Logan was like, I beat Floyd and I beat, I'm the best boxer in the world when Floyd wasn't the best boxer when Logan bought him. And also it was a 60 pound weight difference. Like the way they categorize and narrative shape around it is, is the thing people get upset about and the fact that it's happening.

[Dana White]

But yeah, yeah, I don't hate your brother. I don't hate your brother. Your brother talks more than anybody that I've ever seen. You know, he's, he's always talking about the UFC and all this other stuff. It's like an obsession for him for some weird reason. But I don't, I, I don't, I don't hate your brother.

[Jake Paul]

Do you think, do you think that the relationship can be mended eventually?

[Dana White]

Into what? As far as, I don't know, going to hang out and fucking, you know, go see a movie or something. I mean, you know.

[Podcast Commentator]

I don't know. I don't know.

[Jake Paul]

Just to be cordial.

[Dana White]

Just because, like, yeah, we can be cordial. I have no problem with you, bro.

[Podcast Commentator]

Yeah.

[Jake Paul]

Yeah.

[Dana White]

I have no problem with your brother. We are in the fucking fight business, man.

[Jake Paul]

Yeah.

[Dana White]

Lots of mean things are said.

[Podcast Commentator]

Yeah.

[Dana White]

And shit flies back and forth. There are obviously. Listen, if I didn't like your brother, I'd say I can't stand your fucking brother.

[Podcast Commentator]

And.

[Dana White]

And I wouldn't be shy about it.

[Podcast Commentator]

Yeah. He probably banned him from UFC events if he couldn't. If he couldn't. If he didn't like him that much. You know what I'm saying? He'd probably put him on the ban list because he really doesn't like, like people he doesn't like. He doesn't like Ariel Hawan. He doesn't like Dan. What's it, Roval? He doesn't like those kind of guys. But I think that it's more of just like your brother's a little shit talker and Dana likes to get in the weeds. He likes to get in the mud with him. Honestly, I think Dana doesn't like Nikisa more than. He doesn't. More than Jake. Like, I think that Jake is just, you know, he's obviously, he's Jake. He talks his shit, whatever. But I think it's more. Dana probably doesn't like Nikisa and vice versa, by the way. I don't think they like each other, but Dana will tell you who he doesn't like. I think he's. He's pretty clear when he calls Nikisa the Warlock and won't even say his name, that's who he doesn't like.

[Dana White]

Like many other people in the business. But I do not hate your brother. That's. That's. It's just. I don't.

[Podcast Commentator]

I wish. I mean, again, it's not Logan's responsibility to ask this, but I do wish he would have asked more about Nikisa because then you would see Dana turn red and I think get really fired up or he just shut it down right away. But I would have been interested in that. The rematch of Chris Eubank Jr. Vs. Connor Ben. Although Chris Eubank Jr. Clearly won the first fight. So. So I'll call it businesses reopening between these two. This will be Eubank versus Ben, number four. The fathers fought twice. The Suns are now fighting twice. A middleweight fight for November 15th. And this is one of the most watched fights in the UK of the year. This was a great fight between two guys that were in a knockdown, drag out, slobber, knocker, back and forth. Chris Eubank Jr. Took the win and dug super deep. Was an absolute dawg dog in the first fight and needed to be because Connor Ben looked a lot better than I think people realized he would at £160. Normally he's at 147 came up. But unfortunately for him, his inexperience, his lack of technique and just him winging shots was his undoing. Eubank Jr took him to school in those last five to six rounds and it was amazing. In Tottenham Hotspur Stadium. We're ready to do it again in just over a month and a half and some change. But today they're doing the first press conference for this rematch and we have to take a look because things got spicy. Things got downright disrespectful. And accusations that came out of this are absolutely wild. What do I mean? The breakdown. Let's go. Connor Ben, he's back at £160. Now, I was told, or I guess I saw online, Conor wore this Manchester City jersey in honor of the late, great Ricky Hatton, who just recently passed away. Obviously super unfortunate and just. Just something that no one anticipated. Is really, really a. A tragic day for the sport of boxing and the entire uk. It's just. It's just awful. All of it is awful. I send my condolences to his family, to his close ones. Make sure you guys all say a prayer. This was a nice touch from Connor Ben. And again, we're going to get into some stuff in just a second that I thought was super tasteless. But let's just. First and foremost, and I think they actually did a nice tribute as well in this press conference. But I just wanted to make sure, I say, obviously, rest in peace to the legend.

[Interviewer]

Ladies and gentlemen, Chris Eubank Jr.

[Podcast Commentator]

There he is. And Louis Vuitton.

[Interviewer]

So let's hear from the fighters. Firstly, a quick word From Chris Eubank Jr. Chris, when you think back to.

[Chris Eubank Jr.]

8, I'd like you to address Connor first. I think I'm just interested to hear what he's got to say.

[Interviewer]

Okay, as you wish.

[Podcast Commentator]

Hey, I have a feeling I'm going to say this a lot in this video. To the victor goes the spoils. All right, so in the first fight, you saw Chris Eubank Jr. Perform absolute masterclass in these press conferences. He was dancing around Eddie Hearn and Connor Ben. He was holding court. He was going on monologues, which I expect today. But now that he's won, he's going to up it to the next level. And he starts right away by going like, yeah, you know, I Appreciate you, you coming to me first. But I want to hear what Connor Ben has to say. After all that talking before the first fight, after all the stuff that was said about how he was going to knock me out in three or four rounds, and after the whole egging and exaggerating and all that, what's he got to say now after. After I won? What's he got to say? This, this. This is what the victor gets. When you do a rematch, somebody already won. Somebody's already gotten ahead of the game, and That's Chris Eubank Jr. Connor.

[Interviewer]

Ben Connor. When you think about what happened in April, you always said it was the early runs that got you out of bed because you. You feared losing in this game. How was the reality been for you and what have you perhaps learned about yourself since April?

[Connor Ben]

Yeah, listen, I mean, it's always hard processing a loss. Nobody prepares to lose. You know, as far as we want to do our best, but ultimately we want to get the victory at all costs. You know, it's taught me a lot. It's taught me a lot about myself. Want to go back to the drawing board and work and learn, gain experience. And experience was gained. So no doubt, November 15th, you get their version.

[Podcast Commentator]

There is no doubt about it that Connor Ben has a lot more to learn. By the way, I just realized he's got a face tattoo. He did not have that the last time I saw. I like, here's the thing. I like Connor Ben, and I know that's not going to win me any fans in this back and forth because I also like Chris Eubank Jr. But I got to interview Connor Ben almost. I think it was the. The weekend after or the week of the next fight week in New York. He came out to the Ryan Garcia, Rolly Romero fight. And I got to tell you guys, he looked like he was handling the loss well. I know that, you know, it's tough. You never know what's going on internally with people. But he didn't have a scratch on him. He sat through that interview like it was just another thing. And I think that he had gotten a decent enough reception, at least in America, from fight fans because of his performance, because he went toe to toe, because he swung it out, he dogged it out. And this is what I keep saying about pro boxing right now and why best fighting the best or at least matchups. You want to see entertaining matchups being more important than belts, being more important than, you know, a win and a loss in some cases. I still believe, obviously, wins and losses mean Something, but it's not the end of the world. It's not the end of the road. I think that's what Connor Ben and other fighters see is that when they take risks and when Chris Eubank took a risk as well, you see the fans rally around, that you see them almost supports you more because the loss is only as bad as your performance sometimes in the fight. At least that's the way I look at it. And that's why I enjoy this being a rematch. Even though I would have loved to have seen Chris Eubank do something else at 168 potentially, and Connor Ben fight, you know, whoever at 147, maybe a Ryan Garcia, both coming off losses, that would have made sense. But this is why I'm okay with the rematch, because they both leave it in the ring, win or loss.

[Interviewer]

As your opinion on Connor Ben changed since the first fight, as a person, as a fighter, do you respect him more than you did then?

[Chris Eubank Jr.]

What a crazy, crazy world we live in today.

[Podcast Commentator]

Just remember the question was, do you respect Connor Ben as a person or a fighter more now after the first fight than you did? Because I have a feeling Chris Eubank Jr. Is not going to say a word about that. Just going to say whatever he wants here.

[Chris Eubank Jr.]

For my entire life as a professional fighter, I have been the villain and the bad guy. 14 years and 38 fights of people loving to hate me. But, you know, I don't want to get ahead of myself. But from what I'm seeing online nowadays, in the interactions I'm having with people all over the world, in the streets, I don't know if I'm that guy anymore. It's not just boxing fans that are approaching me now. It's little girls, elderly folk, housewives, people that really have nothing to do with boxing. And they are all, you know, they're all greeting me and they're all wishing me the best of luck.

[Podcast Commentator]

First off, yeah, this is exactly what I thought would happen. Chris is not gonna say a single word about the question he was asked. But look at Eddie. Eddie's like, what is he talking about? Connor is already like, this dude. What is he saying? Like, no one's paying attention. And he's just in full monologue mode. I love it.

[Chris Eubank Jr.]

The funny thing is, if you speak to this side of the table, Eddie Hearn will tell you as he told the world after the fight, that Connor Ben is in fact, the people's champ. I mean, wow, that is. That's incredible. Conor, Ben, you did it.

[Podcast Commentator]

Okay.

[Chris Eubank Jr.]

The people's champ.

[Podcast Commentator]

All right, so I kind of wondered coming into this, are we, are we going to be a little more respectful with each other? Is this going to be more of like a copacetic? Hey, we went to war, we shed blood. There's a bit of respect there. The answer is no. I mean, I'm sure there is competitive respect, but the answer as far as like, are they going to be nicer this time around is no. We already started with the trolling here. The people's champ, Connor. Yeah, way to go, kid. You did it.

[Chris Eubank Jr.]

One thing I know for sure is.

[Podcast Commentator]

That.

[Chris Eubank Jr.]

You know Connor, Ben, he put on a great fight. He went out there and he did what I did not expect him to do. But you know I'm going to tell you right here and now, you ain't no champ and you most definitely ain't no people's champ. So get that out of your head. You keep letting Eddie Hearn blow smoke up your ass and you're gonna end up being even more of an embarrassment than he is.

[Podcast Commentator]

Oh, my Lord. Okay, so, yeah, this is, this is. I already know where this is going to go. This is going to BE Chris Eubank Jr. Vs. Eddie Hearn again in these press conferences. And to be honest, it sometimes is better that way because Connor Ben just gets tired of it and doesn't want to do the back and forth anymore. But again, Eubank Jr. Is not giving up on this just persistent attack of Eddie Hearn. He from the first fight to now, he is just on Eddie's ass, dude. He's not letting him breathe over there.

[Chris Eubank Jr.]

These men are not men of the people. They are pretending. They're pretending to be the good guys. Wolves in sheep's clothing, if you will. They will do anything they can. They will screw over anybody they can. They will cut any corners, they will break any rules they can to try and get ahead. Ruthless, immoral and without restraint. These men are. They did everything they could to try and destroy me in this last fight. Contract breaches, fines, rehydration clauses, sabotage, weigh in, bias, commentary and refereeing. Oh my gosh, the list goes on.

[Podcast Commentator]

All right, so just, just quickly. I didn't, I didn't listen to the commentary because Jordy and I were doing our own show. I don't know about the bias that was in the commentary or the refereeing. I'm not exactly sure what happened there. But he also accuses Eddie. I assume he said the people on the other side. I guess he means Eddie when he talks about like the sabotaged weigh ins, which I Do remember, I don't know what happened with the weigh in, but that Chris missed weight by.05 or something like that, or 0.5, half a pound, I don't know what it was. And they find him $500,000. But that wasn't an Eddie Hearn thing, I don't think. I think that was the British Boxing Board of Control, which was crazy to find him that amount of money for it. But then he made rehydration weight, which again, I'm not a fan of rehydration clauses. I think they're very detrimental to someone's health. But Eubank Jr. Did sign a contract that allowed them to do that. So, you know, you could complain about it and rightfully so, but just know that it's something that you agreed to do. You know what I'm saying?

[Chris Eubank Jr.]

Even on fight night, they blocked my team from coming to the stadium for 30 minutes. And then when I arrive, they have security walking in front of my car trying to slow me down and storm me as much as possible to make me late.

[Eddie Hearn]

I've never heard so much waffle.

[Chris Eubank Jr.]

It's okay. Here.

[Podcast Commentator]

A lot more.

[Eddie Hearn]

No, no, no. You know, you're gonna hear a lot more.

[Chris Eubank Jr.]

You know, it's incredible.

[Podcast Commentator]

This does sound a little crazy. I don't, you know, I. Again, this could be mind games and it probably is just trying for. For Chris Eubank Jr. Just to try to wind up Eddie Hearn and Conor and get them all out of sorts. And if that's the case, he's probably going to be successful. But there's. There's a certain line you can't really like the accusations are getting pretty specific. Talking about, like having security guards walk in front of his van and delay this, delay that, sabotage this. I'm trying to look at this from a. An unbiased perspective. I don't know how Eddie would do any of that. So again, it could just be completely. And it probably is Chris Eubank Jr. Just winding him up. But you got to be careful how far you go with that because we know in this game, especially Frank Warren doesn't play around with that stuff. Frank Warren will light you up and take you to court over claims made against Queensberry and himself. And I, if you guys remember, way back last, I think it was last year, Eubank Jr. Said something about Frank Warren being a scumbag. And he immediately put the kibosh on that. He was like, what? You sure? And it was, it was a. It was a tense situation. We'll just say. But Chris, he's going to go right up to that line and sometimes maybe step over just to poke Eddie and to get him all out of sorts.

[Chris Eubank Jr.]

The levels that these guys will stoop to. I finally get into the stadium. I get into my change room. I'm preparing. They're sending idiots to try and disrupt me in my changing room. We get to through that, I go out there, outside these walls and I win the fight. Now, after the fight, due to severe dehydration, I'm put in an ambulance and I have to go to hospital. I was actually so dehydrated that one of the toenails on my big toe fell off. It actually fell off. It's going back about halfway now. But anyway, I'm in this ambulance.

[Eddie Hearn]

Jesus. Not a toenail.

[Chris Eubank Jr.]

I'm in the.

[Podcast Commentator]

Not a toenail. I like the gamesmanship going back and forth here. This is 100%. Who can control the narrative of this press conference? You're seeing it in real time. You're seeing the mind games in real time. I don't know If Chris Eubank Jr. Lost his toenail because of dehydration. I don't even know if that's a thing that can happen. But I have lost the toenail before and that shit does fucking hurt. Mine. I. Because I played in a wet rain game in American football and it kept jamming into the front of my shoe and it ended up popping up and having to be removed. But I have no idea the validity of these claims. But it's a weird one to throw in there for no other reason, unless it was true, it would be tough to fight on, let alone, you know, train with or whatever a broken or lost toenail.

[Eddie Hearn]

You still got it.

[Chris Eubank Jr.]

These scumbags blocked that ambulance from leaving the stadium for 20 minutes, by the way.

[Eddie Hearn]

This is an intricate. I'll keep going because this is all being noted, because absolute minutes.

[Chris Eubank Jr.]

Waffle, waffle. I'm laying there in a gurney, oxygen mask on, and the car cannot move. They will not open the gates to let us leave.

[Eddie Hearn]

Sorry, sorry. Who won't open the gates now?

[Chris Eubank Jr.]

If. If this was a serious injury that I had sustained that 20 minutes, Chris.

[Eddie Hearn]

I want to know who wouldn't open the gates.

[Chris Eubank Jr.]

It's important that 20 minutes.

[Eddie Hearn]

You can't answer that, can you?

[Chris Eubank Jr.]

Could have been the difference between life and death.

[Eddie Hearn]

You talk. You.

[Podcast Commentator]

And while this was all happening, that is okay. This is what I was talking about when I said these things can become a little bit. You know, you can go a little too far with this, Chris Eubank Jr. Is alleging that Eddie Hearn, I assume Matchroom, somehow stopped him from leaving the event, somehow had control of the gates in and out of Tottenham Hotspur Stadium and held him up for 20 minutes. And he's insinuating that if it was a more severe injury than just dehydration, that they would have been responsible for the difference between life and death. This is what I was talking about when I said you can only go so far with that kind of stuff. I don't know how stuff in the UK works versus in the US but libel and slander, I feel like is. I mean, he's essentially saying that they wouldn't let him leave and go get treatment, like they were preventing him on purpose from getting medical aid. That is crazy to say, and I can't believe that's true at all. Like, that one, I. The toenail thing maybe, but that one you can't even like, okay, buddy, no shot. That's true. But again, Chris is walking right over that line right now. And Eddie, he said it. He said, listen, I'm making sure you get held accountable for this. It's funny, but at some point you have to be like, all right, you can't just allege everything and say outright that they're the ones doing it. That's crazy.

[Chris Eubank Jr.]

Conor, Ben and Eddie Hearn are in here talking to the media, lying about how I had a broken jaw, and that was the reason why I was going to hospital. Artists of the highest degree.

[Eddie Hearn]

Chris, can we get one thing clear? Can you just. Can you just confirm that you are accusing in. Yes, I am Mat.

[Chris Eubank Jr.]

Yes. Okay, say it, you guys.

[Podcast Commentator]

Say it.

[Chris Eubank Jr.]

Me from. Say it. Say it. You know Matchroom. Who else? Who else?

[Eddie Hearn]

Who else? Go and say it.

[Chris Eubank Jr.]

Why was I.

[Eddie Hearn]

Say it.

[Chris Eubank Jr.]

Why was I in an analyst say.

[Eddie Hearn]

That Matchroom stops you from going to the hospital.

[Chris Eubank Jr.]

I was like, what? So you can try and sue me if you're a little.

[Eddie Hearn]

Not at all. Don't worry about that. I think you're talking about the wrong guy.

[Podcast Commentator]

What was that, a shot at Jake? Paul said, what? So you can sue me? I think you're talking about the wrong guy. I mean, he kind of did say it. He didn't say it, like, in a full sentence, but he not only alluded to Matchroom, but he said, eddie. And then he said, the guy's over there. And then when Eddie said, is it Matchroom you're talking about? He said, yes. I mean, completely insane to say for sure. And then he goes, who else could it have been? It was probably Just the fact that the security and everybody was leaving the event and the streets were flooded and they were trying to get everybody. It was probably just a complete miscommunication and people not being able to do their jobs well in a crowded area, more likely than anything else to allege that, like Matchroom is not letting you go and get medical aid is crazy.

[Chris Eubank Jr.]

These are the levels.

[Eddie Hearn]

You talk shit.

[Chris Eubank Jr.]

These are the levels.

[Eddie Hearn]

You know, we stopped you from going because your toenail was falling off these people.

[Chris Eubank Jr.]

Now, Eddie, the last time you were up here, you were talking about how famous and popular. Popular you are. Even more famous than me.

[Eddie Hearn]

No, that's impossible. You're the people's champ.

[Chris Eubank Jr.]

You said it.

[Eddie Hearn]

No, you are. You're getting stopped by grannies and children who are throwing themselves at you like you're the Pope. It's incredible.

[Chris Eubank Jr.]

Absolutely.

[Eddie Hearn]

And even with half a toenail.

[Chris Eubank Jr.]

But I can't believe it.

[Eddie Hearn]

But that's interesting. The fact is you're telling us.

[Podcast Commentator]

We. This is. This is what I thought it would be. This has become the. The Chris Eubank Jr. Vs. Eddie Heard Show. And you know what? This time around, Eddie is actually giving it back to him a little bit. Like Chris is, you know, doing the thing where he's like, Eddie's a scumbag and here's why. Some of that stuff kind of crazy, but Eddie is giving it to him a little bit. He's like, yeah, no, I can't be the most popular man out because you got women and children fawning over you like the Pope. This build up to this fight is going to be insane. I just hope that Conor gets a word in edgewise because he's the one fighting. I know Eddie is. Is probably one of the best talkers and promoters in boxing, but Conor got to say something too, Connor. Conor got it, you know, saying he got to get in there. He's the one that's going to be fighting on fight night. It's going to be him and Chris Eubank Jr. Not Eddie and Chris Eubank.

[Eddie Hearn]

But you don't talk shit about things that you want to fantasize about. It's not.

[Chris Eubank Jr.]

I know the truth.

[Eddie Hearn]

No, it's not. Listen, you've already accused us of stopping your ambulance from going to the hospital. That's fair enough.

[Chris Eubank Jr.]

We'll see what happened.

[Eddie Hearn]

We'll see.

[Chris Eubank Jr.]

That's what happened.

[Eddie Hearn]

Okay? We will see, my friend.

[Chris Eubank Jr.]

Listen, you've never.

[Podcast Commentator]

That's crazy. He's. He's doubling and tripling down on it. That's wild. Again, I don't know what proof that Chris Eubank Jr. Would have that Matchroom was like not wanting him to go to the hospital. That's insane. Maybe I'm the one that's missing something here, but I. That's. I feel like that's a pretty serious claim.

[Chris Eubank Jr.]

I had a hard day's work in your life.

[Eddie Hearn]

All right.

[Chris Eubank Jr.]

You're talking to me.

[Eddie Hearn]

And you've only had one.

[Chris Eubank Jr.]

You think?

[Eddie Hearn]

And that was the last time, let me tell you. You're gonna have a real hard night's work on November 15th.

[Chris Eubank Jr.]

Your multi million pound estate writing up contracts to please fighters out of as much.

[Eddie Hearn]

We'll see, Chris. We'll see. We will see of your accusations. Jets you shall. We will see.

[Chris Eubank Jr.]

Talking about how you talk.

[Eddie Hearn]

We see through your games. You don't know about Mr. Popularity. You don't give a about anyone or.

[Chris Eubank Jr.]

Nothing you know about.

[Eddie Hearn]

All right.

[Chris Eubank Jr.]

To use people.

[Eddie Hearn]

We'll see.

[Chris Eubank Jr.]

That's the man you are.

[Eddie Hearn]

Okay. We'll see.

[Podcast Commentator]

Yeah, man, he is still. Because he, you know, he's still talking about Eddie freezing fighters out of deals and some things that go on in the background. There is still real animosity from his time with Eddie. From his time, I guess just around the boxing scene. They just fucking hate each other straight up. I think Chris Eubank Jr. And Eddie Hearn hate each other more than Chris Eubank Jr. And Connor Bend. And in that same token, I would like to see a reality TV show or some sort of back and forth when they do the face to face. Honestly, at this point I'd rather see Chris Eubank Jr. And Eddie sit down for the face to face because look at Connor. Look at him. He's like, what the am I doing here? What is this?

[Chris Eubank Jr.]

We will see.

[Eddie Hearn]

We will.

[Interviewer]

Connor, quick one to you. Has your opinion changed on Chris Eubank Jr.

[Connor Ben]

I mean, I get take my hat off to him, you know, because you need a dancing partner and he was that for me. Did I underestimate him? I did. I genuinely thought I'd knock him out three, four rounds on my heart, you know, that's Chris, shut up, man. That's what.

[Podcast Commentator]

That's what I need more of that just poking and prodding. Chris Eubank Jr. To me would have a better option and a better success rate. Just poking at Conor because Eddie can kind of give it back to him. Connor is not good with. With, you know, the back and forth. He doesn't really want to do that. And I think he could get the same way. He got him over emotional in the first press Conferences for the first fight. I think he could try to do the same in the second and see how much Connor Ben has learned. See, see how much he learned from the loss, you know, because all it did was make Connor Ben want to go in there and take Eubank's head off. Like the way he was swinging, it felt like every punch had some emotion in it from the things that were said, from the egg on the head, from all of it. And it just felt like Chris had done such a master class job of doing mental gymnastics and, and lapping, running circles around Conor in the, in the back and forth of the press conference that he had gotten him so wound up that that was the result. I think he would try to do it again. But instead he's gone after Eddie here.

[Connor Ben]

You know, so underestimated him but you know, he gave me one hell of a fight and it was one hell of a fight and yeah, I'm excited for next time around to be honest, mate.

[Interviewer]

Well, let's see if from, you know.

[Chris Eubank Jr.]

This was the first time in my life that I've ever seen a fighter lose and then go on some type of victory tour. This guy. No, there was no guy.

[Connor Ben]

There was no victory.

[Chris Eubank Jr.]

We were, we were in cars.

[Connor Ben]

No, that was your car that you gave me. That's the 500 grand for your unprofessionalism that gave me that car.

[Chris Eubank Jr.]

You flew over to America. You're taking pictures of people. Oh, I'm just so, I'm so grateful for the love and, and the fans show me you're going on like you won.

[Podcast Commentator]

You do understand you lost me to finish.

[Eddie Hearn]

He had all 10 toenails, right?

[Podcast Commentator]

I mean the, the, he had all 10 toenails though. Now I didn't look at it as, as Connor been doing a, a, a, a, you know, victory tour now, him buying the car and everything and flexing on Chris after Chris miss weight. That was, that was kind of crazy. But at the same time they all knew they were going to have a rematch and Connor I think felt well about how he did. You know, he felt like even if he lost the fight, he damaged up Chris Eubank Jr. Big time in that fight and he didn't have him a lot of damage on, you know, on himself again. I interviewed him three days later. I guess I was a part of the victory tour. I interviewed him like three or four days later and he looked fine. But I will say again, to my point earlier, I felt like both men got accepted more. Chris Eubank Jr. Was accepted as the people's champion that night. Night for sure. And in the uk he was the hero of that night. But Connor Ben, I thought earned a lot more respect back. That he may have lost from the PED incident, from all the things that came with that and having to reschedule this fight, I think he earned a lot of respect back. Maybe not all of it. Certainly not all of it. And there's definitely people that don't like him still and maybe never will. The way he fought that night, I thought earned a lot of respect. Both men.

[Eddie Hearn]

I was listening.

[Connor Ben]

Listen, Chris, the reality is while you were sipping food for a straw, I was back in the gym after the fight. Ready go to for September 20th. Why was you not ready? We was locked in September 20th. So if you want to talk about a little tour, I was training. Meanwhile, what were you doing?

[Chris Eubank Jr.]

I was living life, my friend.

[Connor Ben]

Exactly, exactly. So what you just said, man, what.

[Chris Eubank Jr.]

You just said, if you were ready.

[Connor Ben]

Listen, listen, I don't care. Ultimately we find November 15th, mate.

[Podcast Commentator]

And yeah, that was a nasty line from Connor Ben. He said while you were sipping fruit through a straw after our fight, I was back training again. He did lose and Chris Eubank Jr. Did win. But that's a nasty line and it talks about again, I don't know if that sipping through the straw, whatever, but it does lend to my point that Chris Eubank Jr. Won the battle. He won the fight. But Connor Ben, with a rematch clause in place, might have. We'll see again because Bomac now is in the corner of Chris Eubank Jr. But he might have won the war the way he damaged up Chris Eubank Jr. He's not a young guy. He is going to have to cut all that weight again. And maybe the skills will pay the bills the same way in the second fight as they did in the first. And Connor Ben just doesn't have the skills. Just didn't. Isn't the skill level of Chris Eubank plus the weight that might have an effect? I mean, we're turning this fight around in the same year. It may have an effect. And more of the damaging shots were landed by Chris Eubank Jr. But the more damaging shots. Notice there's a difference there. The more damaging shots were landed by Connor Ben in that fight. More of them were landed by Eubank Jr. But the more damage was landed by Connor Ben. But again, Chris Eubank gets to talk that talk. He's like, yeah, you were getting ready. I was living life. That's what winners get to do. They kind of do set the precedent. They get to establish, determine when they want to come back. And that's what Chris Eubank gets for winning.

[Eddie Hearn]

In all the fights that I promoted with Chris, that rematch against Liam Smith was the most focused, was the most dedicated, was the best Chris Eubank Jr. I have seen. And I think Chris will be. Will be doing it in even more emphatic fashion on November.

[Chris Eubank Jr.]

Congratulations. I mean, the performance Terrence put on against Canelo the other day was exceptional. So. So congratulations to you and the Terence Crawford team. Everyone give it up.

[Podcast Commentator]

Yeah, man. I mean, thanks, man. I appreciate that. Bomac joining this team changes almost everything for this fight. And again, Chris Eubank Jr. Has really never stayed consistent with a trainer, and somehow he's able to be successful doing that. I don't even know how that's possible, but it does add a lot to this camp. It adds a lot of technique, a lot of skill, a lot of mastery of distance, timing, everything else that Chris already has. But with a commander in chief in the corner, OMAC versus Tony Sims and all that wealth of knowledge, man, Chris was already, I thought technically better clearly than Connor Ben. This. This is going to add so much.

[Interviewer]

Despite the setback for Connor Ben in April, what do you believe changed about the way he is seen within the.

[Eddie Hearn]

Boxing world, which is firstly Jamie, obviously just. Just a couple of you might just going to say 30 seconds about Ricky Hatton. Chris, Chris, one second.

[Chris Eubank Jr.]

You know the drill.

[Podcast Commentator]

Chris.

[Chris Eubank Jr.]

Chris know the drill. I'm not gonna.

[Eddie Hearn]

You are some. You are.

[Chris Eubank Jr.]

Anything you say.

[Eddie Hearn]

Okay, then don't listen to anything.

[Chris Eubank Jr.]

Oh, I'm a bad guy. I'm in this.

[Eddie Hearn]

All I was going to do is say a few words about Ricky Han. Okay, Okay. I won't say anything about.

[Chris Eubank Jr.]

Move on with the press conference.

[Eddie Hearn]

You're. You're an. You talk, you get what's coming to you. It doesn't matter. You can do that.

[Chris Eubank Jr.]

We know anyway, let's move on.

[Podcast Commentator]

Okay, you know what?

[Chris Eubank Jr.]

I want to talk about something else. Forget Eddie. I want to talk about the British boxing border control.

[Podcast Commentator]

Yeah. I'm not going to lie. This is a terrible look for Chris for a couple of reasons. Number one, Eddie Hearn, I guess wanted to say like a quick thing about Ricky Hatton, which again, I think everybody in the UK at this moment, their hearts mourn for. For Ricky Hatton. And if Eddie wanted. I know they already did the tribute. If Eddie wanted to say something just personal, a personal anecdote to commemorate the life and honor Ricky, that. That would have been something. I think that would have been Appropriate because of the recent passing. Chris, he didn't obviously know that Eddie was going to start that way, but he also did this the entire first time around with Eddie where he wouldn't let him talk. Wouldn't let him talk. Now, I've seen some people online saying, oh, well, this was Eddie's way of trying to make Chris look bad. I'm. I don't think I, I, again, I don't. I've never known Eddie to be that kind of guy. To try to use Ricky Hatton's recent death to try to make Chris Eubank Jr look bad by starting his, you know, whatever he was going to say with, Let me just say this about Ricky Hatton so Chris would interrupt him. I don't think that's. I think we're going too deep to look at it that way. I just think Chris didn't realize what Eddie was either saying to begin with. But then Eddie said it a couple times and he said, I just want to say a quick thing about Ricky Hatton and Chris Eubank contending, continuing to interrupt him. That's not a great look. Again, I don't know if he heard Eddie was saying the stuff about when he was like, hey, I just want to say this about Ricky, and then you can do whatever you want to do. But Chris, he's got to drop the act just for a second, right? You, you do need to show some damn respect for Ricky Hatton in that moment. And that's what Eddie was trying to do. So I don't rate that from Chris Eubank Jr. I don't like that. And then we had a tweet come out after where Matchroom tweeted, eddie Hearn tries to say a few words about Ricky Hatton with the shrug face and Chris Eubank Jr. Underneath. It says, imagine trying to use Ricky Hatton's passing as a way to try and get to talk at a press conference. New low from Hearn here. I apologize on Eddie's behalf. Awesome tribute to Ricky at the start of the presser, though. He really was a legend. Thoughts and prayers are with his family. Again, you're still playing games here. I don't, I cannot rate this at all. I think this is Chris thinking that Eddie is playing games with him. So he's going to play games back, right? Where he's like, oh, yeah, they already did the presser tribute. You know, great. Awesome tribute at the start of the presser. But Eddie is trying to use him to get a word off in a press conference. Again, I'm not Sure how close Eddie Hearn was to Ricky Hatton, but either way, that was just an, that was not a great look for Chris Eubank Jr. There. Even if Eddie wasn't being sincere, even if it was just to get a word off edgewise at the press conference, the fact that you're, you're not letting him do that when it's about Ricky Hatton, that, that just doesn't look good for him. And again, I don't think Eddie was doing it just to get a word in edgewise. I don't, I don't think that's the way that was going.

[Chris Eubank Jr.]

I want to talk about the British boxing border control and more specifically a man by the name of Robert Smith. This is the big boss behind the scenes, the head honcho, the man with all the power that controls everything that goes on in professional boxing inside of the United Kingdom. Jesus, this guy's a big deal. He really is. Now this idiot allowed a room full of media and cameramen into my private way in the day before the fight.

[Eddie Hearn]

Is this when you were sabotaged again?

[Chris Eubank Jr.]

That it took to get these people out contributed to me missing the weight.

[Eddie Hearn]

Chris, you turned up over an hour.

[Chris Eubank Jr.]

Late and getting fined 500k.

[Eddie Hearn]

You turned up over an hour late.

[Podcast Commentator]

So now Chris is calling, I assume the head of the British Boxing Board of Control, Robert Smith an idiot and saying that them allowing, I guess he's referring to matchrooms cameras to come into his locker room while he was trying to weigh in. I'm pretty sure he did show up over an hour late. I'm not sure what the reasoning was for that. But anyway, all of that stuff, he's now going after the British boxing bullet control which I know doesn't play lightly because they hand him down a $500,000 fine for him missing weight. So again I respect, I guess for speaking your truth but you, you, you might want to fight your battles here. Chris. I don't know who, what kind of enemies you want to make, but it's certainly not the people that are trying to sanction your fight, right, Conor?

[Chris Eubank Jr.]

Ben fight in gloves filled with horse hair. Knowing that was a direct breach of the contract I had for this fight.

[Podcast Commentator]

There was a. I wonder what, what gloves Connor Ben was. Was not allowed to wear through the contract. Again, we will never see the light of day with these contracts, but I assume the horsehair gloves were Claydores's or MX Hugos or MX Excels or something. I don't know. It's been clear. Floyd Mayweather at one point did not want to fight against guys wearing horse hair gloves. And obviously Chris didn't either. I don't know again if that was in the contract or not. I have no idea.

[Chris Eubank Jr.]

On fight night, he personally escorted an arch nemesis of mine, Billy Joe Saunders, to my changing room.

[Eddie Hearn]

So boring.

[Chris Eubank Jr.]

To disrupt and, and, and try and ruin in my preparations for the biggest fight of my life.

[Podcast Commentator]

Now again, I don't know why, if you guys remember this was a story as well and some of this stuff that I'm starting to remember. Chris Eubank Jr. Is telling the truth on why was, why was Billy Joe Saunders even close to Chris Eubank Jr's locker room that night? Someone I remember there was like, oh, he's going to be there to inspect the gloves but you have to be an accredited part of the corner. I'm pretty sure of your opponent to come in and inspect gloves or inspect hand wraps. It might have been hand wraps. Billy Joe Saunders was none of those things. And he, I remember him just like trying to walk up in the locker room and then pretty sure Chris Eubank jr's manager stopped him. That was a bit of an odd situation. I don't know why that was was made available. So I'm kind of on Chris's side with that one. What, what was the point of having Billy Joe Saunders come into the locker room other than to cause a distraction? Mind game, sure. But like that one didn't make any sense for, for Billy Joe to be in there in the first place and.

[Chris Eubank Jr.]

Afterwards he gets into the ring and is trying to shake my hand and congratulate me. I mean the ball's on this guy. It's viciously clear for me to see that this toad is nothing more than a puppet and a pawn. I think he is in the back pockets of.

[Eddie Hearn]

Wow, another one that's got it in for you.

[Chris Eubank Jr.]

Absolutely.

[Eddie Hearn]

You are so unlucky with everything.

[Chris Eubank Jr.]

I mean, unfortunately, just another scumbag in this.

[Eddie Hearn]

Oh, wow, you're calling, you're calling the chairman of the British Boxing Board of Control.

[Chris Eubank Jr.]

We find ourselves.

[Eddie Hearn]

The mask is slipping, Christopher.

[Podcast Commentator]

I mean again, you're making some powerful enemies when you go out and call the sanctioning body for all British professional boxing bouts a scumbag toad puppet that's in the back pocket of Eddie Hearn. I again, I don't know the intricate details of the people and the fighters and their relationship with the British Boxing Board of Control. I definitely don't know if there's like, I definitely am not clued into like corruption and all of these Types of things. I know in the United States there was massive corruption in boxing in the early days, which is why it's federally regulated in the United States and the only sport, I think it's federally regulated in the us But I don't know what the dealings are over in the uk. So people in the comments are going to have to let me know. Is Chris Eubank Jr. Speaking facts when he talks about the BBB of C or is he, as Eddie Hearn said, is he waffling?

[Chris Eubank Jr.]

The board have graciously awarded me with a multitude of fines over the last six months. And my question is, where is this money going? You know, the Boxing Board of Control, they're supposed to be supporting the foundations and governing the, the community of boxing in Great Britain. So in my eyes, the money that I was being fined should be going to the community, should be going to kids that can't afford equipment, it should be going to local gyms. The money should be going to fighters who have suffered injuries, medical bills. But as far as I can see it, that's not happening. The money simply seems to be lining the pockets of fat cats on the board like Robert Smith. Don't worry, don't worry Ben. It's okay.

[Podcast Commentator]

Ben. Shalom is like, yo, you gotta chill. We gotta, we gotta answer this stuff, bro. They still have to approve your fight. And again, there are some accusations flying right here and I don't know, that seems pretty severe to ask that kind of stuff. And again, maybe he's right, may, maybe there is some massive conspiracy about where this money goes. I would assume, I don't know this, that any money collected in fines and regulations from any sanctioning body goes into further work that the sanctioning body can do, whether it's providing new jobs, whether it's providing the services of sanctioning events and you know, retaining drug testing equipment or retaining all the necessary transport funding for, you know, making sure the weigh ins are correct, making sure tallies are being correct, paying, you know, officials and, and all that. I assume that's what happened. But like, I, I don't know for sure. I, I don't really know what that goes to. I just assume that's the same thing. It's reinvested into the work that the British Boxing Board of Control has to continue doing. I don't know though, it's like asking where my taxes go. I have no idea. I just hope that it goes to the right places and that it helps me out in the future by funding things that make my life Easier. I don't know though. Asking some questions here, Chris.

[Interviewer]

Just been informed in my. A special message from his Excellency Turkey, who says that Eddie Hearn is more popular than Chris Eubank Jr. Because he has his own Netflix documentary.

[Eddie Hearn]

That's good news. Chris can watch that tonight. Six episodes.

[Chris Eubank Jr.]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We all know about that. How you're posturing me all over your dream. Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Podcast Commentator]

Ag called in to tell the presenter that Eddie was more popular. Listen, he is always looking to. To find ways to stir a little bit more of that beef to turn the screw just a little bit more and get these guys riled up. I don't mind it. I actually think it adds a little bit to these press conferences. That's a nice. That's a nice little one liner. He knew Eddie was gonna jump all over that. Immediately promoed when it was out. I gotta watch it, by the way, but okay. Ag getting in the mix.

[Eddie Hearn]

Yeah.

[Podcast Commentator]

Yeah.

[Chris Eubank Jr.]

A guy that doesn't deserve to be here and you're using me in all your trailers.

[Eddie Hearn]

I know.

[Chris Eubank Jr.]

It's okay.

[Eddie Hearn]

You made me a lot of money in that documentary. One thing was amazing. That we've got the people's champs. Got six episodes, five hours of working. You can pull your plunker off in Brighton all night to that. You'll be loving it.

[Chris Eubank Jr.]

Scumbag promoter.

[Podcast Commentator]

Okay.

[Chris Eubank Jr.]

Uses other fighters.

[Eddie Hearn]

It blocks ambulances. Blocks ambulances, loses toenails.

[Podcast Commentator]

Everything. You.

[Chris Eubank Jr.]

You talk more than your fighters do. Look at you.

[Podcast Commentator]

That's my job.

[Chris Eubank Jr.]

Connor hasn't said a word he don't.

[Eddie Hearn]

Want to say because he's bored listening to you about Robert Smith moaning like a baby as the mask slips. Jamie, over to you. I'm talking. Be quiet. You shut your mouth down there. Netflix. It's out now. Enjoy the episodes. Thank you.

[Chris Eubank Jr.]

No one's gonna watch it, mate. Thank you.

[Podcast Commentator]

Eddie got. Eddie got a little bit heated with him. Just a little bit. Jamie, back over to you. Okay, My man. Presenter's name is Jamie. Sorry for not knowing. He said you shut your mouth. You got just a little pissed again. Eubank Jr. Wanting to get under his skin. That's been the entire plan this entire time. And it's starting to work a little bit. Eddie keeps saying the mask is slipping. The mask is slipping. Both guys are saying that each other is the fake nice guy. Both guys are saying that the other one is hiding what they really are and trying to play up a character. It's almost a spider man meme with these two at this point.

[Interviewer]

What was the Difference between the pair of you. Chris, in your own words, what was Connors undoing in April?

[Chris Eubank Jr.]

I'm a better fighter than him. They keep talking about weights. He hasn't fought at welterweight for nearly four years. How many times did you hear Terence Crawford talking about the weight divisions he's coming up fighting Canelo, who's fought at light heavyweight and there was no rehydration causes in that fight back. Pretty embarrassing the amount of times that these guys consistently talk about weight.

[Podcast Commentator]

I will say the more that I think about that fight, the fact that that Terrence came up to 1:68, didn't ask for rehydration. Again, Canelo is not a big 168 pounder so I get it. He's a dog for that though, man. I, I, I know that I've said it before and I said it during the fight and I said it after the fight, but just, it's insane to watch him just go, yeah, I'll do that. And, and, and have that kind of performance at Canelo's weight where he's the undisputed champ. Stupid.

[Chris Eubank Jr.]

They had nothing to do with the weight. I am the better, more experienced, more dedicated fighter. That's why he didn't beat me and that's why he shall not beat me in November.

[Interviewer]

How do you do it, Connor? How do you beat Chris Eubank Jr. Less, less greed.

[Connor Ben]

You know, when I had him hurt in there, I mean he's gonna say I think I have him hurt when I thought I had him hurt, you know, I was just too greedy in there looking for the head shot.

[Podcast Commentator]

Did you guys see that? I'm, I'm sorry, I know I keep pausing but do you see the, the, the Connor is like doing this thing where, and I don't know if that, that it's even conscious but he's doing this thing where he worries almost about what Chris Eubank Jr. Is going to say about what he said and then reframes it before Eubank Jr even brings it up. I think that's how Chris Eubank Jr. Is winning these mental games. Games. He has gotten Connor Ben in his head so much that anytime he says something, well, Chris is going to say that I didn't do that. So let me correct it. Correct it. Why? Just say what you feel if you think you heard him. Yeah, I had him hurt. He can say whatever he wants. I know when I looked in his eyes he was glossed over and he wasn't there. The noodle legs were going crazy instead of like, ah, well, he's gonna say it, so I might as well correct it ahead of time. That's the middle game that's going on, and that's why Chris Eubank is. Is. Is winning those middle games.

[Connor Ben]

Game plan went out the window as soon as I hit him in the third round. It was a matter of. It felt like I was always one punch away from closing the show and I was looking for that one punch, you know, and he looked vulnerable in there. He looked vulnerable at some stages. He looked old and, you know, I was too busy going in there trying to hurt him over getting the wins.

[Interviewer]

What makes you laugh, Chris, when you hear that.

[Chris Eubank Jr.]

Old and vulnerable and this old man's talking about, he wobbled me four or five times.

[Eddie Hearn]

You just gotta watch it. You just gotta watch the fight. You just gotta watch the fight.

[Connor Ben]

At no stage did you hear me in there.

[Chris Eubank Jr.]

The delusion of these guys.

[Eddie Hearn]

Just watch it.

[Connor Ben]

It's not delusion if you can physically see it, Chris.

[Chris Eubank Jr.]

Breathtaking. It really is, you know. Yes. You caught me with a few shots.

[Podcast Commentator]

Let's be clear. Conor did hurt him and wobble him with at least two or three shots in the fight on two or three separate occasions. I think it was Connor. Ben hit him with punches that did make him wobble. His feet, his legs were loose. He was on his feet and he was still conscious and he was still in the fight, but he was hurt. But what Chris is doing here, and it's genius, he's making Conor question his own eyes, question his own belief in what happened in the first fight. Even though the physical evidence is out there, he's still playing the mind game to be like, okay, whatever you think, Conor. Yeah, no, sure, sure. You wobbled me, Conor. Whatever you think. And he kind of like snickers and laughs and drops that, like, confidence, like, yeah, okay, that's what you think.

[Interviewer]

Cool.

[Podcast Commentator]

And it just is a little seed of doubt. Just a little bit. I don't know if he's doing it on purpose, but I think that's genius.

[Connor Ben]

I feel flattered that you bought Bomaking because I know, you know, you need it and he's a great coach. You're a great coach, Bomac, and I've got love for you, mate, but you.

[Eddie Hearn]

Can'T polish a turd. Apologies.

[Interviewer]

One sentence prediction, Connor, just fine.

[Podcast Commentator]

Can't polish a turd. Okay, Connor, talk your. That's what we want to hear, man. Although again, I don't know what that makes. Thanks, Connor, because he lost to Eubank Jr. So do you like diarrhea? I don't know.

[Interviewer]

And for you, Chris, final sentence. What happens in the rematch? How do you do it.

[Chris Eubank Jr.]

Again? The parliamentary will be proof the procedure.

[Podcast Commentator]

Oh, no. He was. He was doing so well. He was doing so well and he's always been perfect with the. That's the signature family line. You can't mess that one up. He said the parliamentary will be procedure.

[Chris Eubank Jr.]

No, will be proof the procedure.

[Eddie Hearn]

Oh, the master.

[Chris Eubank Jr.]

Master will be the matador from this man. Thank you for your TED Talk, Chris.

[Connor Ben]

This has been a pleasure.

[Chris Eubank Jr.]

You've had a stink to employ all the new techniques. Oh, I don't want to go out there and. And wear my heart on my sleeve and win my punches. So I'm gonna box and we're gonna have the strategy. All of that stuff is going to go out of the window as soon as that first little right hand connects on his chin. And after that, we're gonna have fun in there, baby, like I always do.

[Podcast Commentator]

What Chris Eubank Jr. Just said is, I think a super important point. He's like, yeah, they're going to go and try to box. They're going to go and act like they, they're going to be technical from the outside behind the jab, but as soon as I land, he's going to throw that all out the window. And I actually think that's a good point. I think if, if, if Connor Ben truly has learned from the first fight, he'll be able to quell that fire and you know, it's in there. Of losing to Chris Eubank Jr. Of being close to, in his mind, close to knocking him out and in his mind being the guy that damaged Chris Eubank Jr. More so the moment that Eubank lands on him, maybe points a glove at him, taunts him a little bit. Does Connor Ben stay within his composure? Does he stay locked into his game plan? Or does that inexperience show again? And he throws it out the window and we're going to have a scrap. That's something to watch. But that's the end of the press conference. Take a look at the face off here. Nothing crazy in the face off this time. Both guys kept their distance. No eggs, none of that. Maybe we'll get some crazy stuff on the next one, but I think a mutual understanding that we can't let them get too close. Chael Sonnenvoice. But there you go. Nice little face off again. It is crazy, the size difference, that's just height, but also the weight. Like Conor doesn't even look close to the same weight class there it is. Man, what a press conference. What a kickoff press conference. And things did indeed kick off here. I want you guys to tell me in the comments below, what was your big takeaway from this thing? Was it the fact that Chris Eubank Jr. Went off on not just Eddie Hearn, not just Connor Ben, but the British Boxing Board of Control alluded to some things being purposely done to keep him in the worst shape possible before the fight and after the fight, Connor Ben saying he's going to fight with. With less emotion and with more control, with more technique. Do you believe that? And even if so, can he overcome his last performance? And the fact that Chris Eubank Jr. Is going to have Bomac in the corner? I don't have any of these answers, But I know November 15th is going to be a classic, an instant classic. Just like the first one is who wins. I don't have those answers, but guess we'll find out. There we go. Breaking news finally, folks. Raja Jackson has been arrested by the Los Angeles Police Department on felony assault charges. Which is not something that normally I would celebrate, but if, you know, you know, because this was a brutal. I'm. I'm just gonna say this. I don't think the charges are high enough. I don't think the charges are severe enough. It was a brutal assault that took place. What was it now? A couple of weeks ago, we were all sat here wondering why he hasn't been arrested. Why has the LAPD not done something when we watched a man on live stream beat a man senseless over and over, 23 or 24 unanswered punches even whilst people around him are trying to stop him from attacking an unconscious individual slumped at a wrestling show. He keeps firing and we just didn't have any answer. Why hasn't he been arrested? What is going on? Well, we now know. And by the way, shout out to Andreas Hale. Big shout to this guy. He is killing it with the articles. I know this was first reported by tmz, but here he is on espn. Raja Jackson, son of former UFC champion Quentin Rampage Jackson, has been arrested on a felony assault charge following a brutal attack of a pro wrestler. So this is Psycho Stew. We know this. If you. If you followed this. This is Stuart Smith, his actual name, who Raja attacked. And again, it was a part of a pro wrestling event here in Los Angeles called Knox Pro Wrestling. There was a misunderstanding where Stu did hit Raja with an empty beer can in a worked way. It was not in any way a hard punch or a hard hit. Thought that Raja was A pro wrestler. When he found out he wasn't, he apologized profusely. Roger accepted said apology. The dumbass promoters over at KnoxPro were like, yeah, brother, we'll let you get it back in the ring. Talking to a man that already clearly has no idea what pro wrestling is and wants some revenge and is unstable. I'm just gonna say it. He. Raja seemed unstable to even be there. He was getting rage baited by his chat. The chat was telling him he was a pussy and he wasn't gonna do nothing. His own dad is calling him a b. Tch. And all this. Not good. So that just flowed over and Raja got in and did some very unspeakable things. Damn near killed this guy. I'll be honest, I can't believe. And maybe it's just because it's harder to prove that there's not a attempt murder charge here. Maybe I just don't know the letter of the law how hard it is to prove attempted murder. But what else do you give a guy for repeatedly punching an unconscious individual with no sense of stopping? I mean, they. They tried to pull him off. They tried to pull him off Psycho Stu, and he just keeps firing and keeps firing. He shucks him off, throws him and keeps firing. What. What else do you need? What. What else is the burden of proof there? And also before he goes on to just absolutely decimate this guy, he's in the chat talking about, yeah, I'm a fuck him up. Yeah, I mean, I guess you have the burden of, like, premeditation on that. I don't know. But I. I don't know how. This is not attempted murder, I'll be honest. But we keep going. According to the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department, Jackson was arrested and booked on Thursday morning and is being held at $50,000 bail. No further details of the pending case have been reached, as are revealed as of yet. So $50,000 bail. I don't know if, again, that's going to be. I mean, that's something that Rampage could probably pay out and get him out while. While they. They figure out sentencing and all that. The arrest came nearly a month after Jackson, 25, was caught on video assaulting pro wrestler Stuart Smith, also known as Psycho Stu, at the Knox X Pro Wrestling Academy in Los Angeles. Jackson entered the ring, slammed Smith, and punched him until he was unconscious. No, that's not true. He punched him even after he was unconscious. This is our guy, Andreas Hale. This is. This is. You know, great job covering the story, but let's. Let's make sure that the facts are actually submitted here. He slammed Smith. Smith then became unconscious, and then Raja Jackson continued punching him. He didn't punch him until he was unconscious. Stu was unconscious on the fucking slam. So every punch after that was after he was unconscious. The correct wording of this sentence would be Jackson slammed Smith immediately, rendering him unconscious, and then punched him until several individuals had to drag him off. That's the correct wording of that statement. Just so we're clear, Jackson was eventually pulled off by off of Smith by several other wrestlers and fled the academy, which is located in the Sun Valley neighborhood of Los Angeles. Could that not also be a charge as well? Not only are we talking about him assaulting this man, but then leaving the scene of the crime. Is that not something that can also be charged here? Like fleeing the scene of a crime after what they're. You know, this article is saying aggravated assault charges or. No, just felony assault charges. I feel like that should be at least something as well. But yeah, here is the video of Raja being handcuffed. Handcuffed and led away. Get his ass the out of here. Get him out of here. Dang. Those are his neighbors filming him too. How long is he going to jail for? I'm not sure. Look, he's looking at his neighbors while they're filming him. Buddy, I. I'm. I'm glad you got us this evidence, but knowing Raja Jackson, as soon as he gets out, he's coming for you. Probably wasn't the smartest thing to film him while live next to it. Finally, we have at least some form of justice. I'm not even going to show the video again because the video is just brutal. But if you didn't know. Let me see if I can find some of the things that I'm trying to find. What the actual medical issues that Stu had because of that. This is from tmz. The wrestler who had gotten in a spat with Raja just before the event. Spent several days in the hospital with numerous injuries, including fractured maxilla bone. Not sure what that is. Thankfully, he has been released and is recovering at home. Whatever. That maxilla bone is fractured, multiple broken teeth, apparently at one point choking on his own blood. Yet here we are talking about almost a month later. It takes the LAPD to catch this guy. And then, yes, you know, fantastic. We have some charges brought, but I don't want to be that person. That's like, it was not severe enough. But is there a doubt in anybody's mind he was just going to continue punching him until he got Tired. He meaning Raja. That was the only thing that was going to stop him. That was the only thing that was stopping Raja from punching him was he wasn't tired enough yet. And I know this because, again, I'm not going to show the video because we've already showed it so many times, but there's multiple instances where guys try to get Raja off of Stu and he's still wailing on him, and then he, he shoves the people trying to get him off of him and goes back to wailing on. So how, how, what other proof do we need on top of the fact that he's like telling the chat what he's about to do? Raja is very lucky that Psycho Stu didn't die. He's very lucky. And that's crazy to say, but he is very, very, very lucky that the supporters that were there to watch knoxpro actually stepped in and stopped him. Had he been left to do whatever he wanted to do, he would have killed him. No doubt in my mind. He would have killed just by proxy. Of training martial arts, you usually learn better self control because you understand the damage you, and not only you can cause to others, but you can cause to yourself or anybody else by just getting into a fight, let alone your skills to be able to neutralize a threat. That usually makes you a little bit more controlled. Now, there are again, examples that are not that, and some people are just absolutely insane. But when you have that skill set, you almost have more of a responsibility to control yourself because you can end up like this. All because he got rage baited by a bunch of freaking teenagers in a kickchat. And by the way, there were people online that were calling this a work. Now again, Rampage's son Raja was in the wrestling ring because they had, they had let him do that part. They did not allow him to do the other stuff. They're like, oh, it's a work. He won't be in jail. Y' all are idiots. Y' all don't know how to. Y' all don't know how to delineate between real and fake. Absolute morons. Nothing will come of this. Stupid, stupid. This is why I'm, I'm, I'm, I, I weep for the youth that actually can't realize when something's staged and when something's real. I mean, we've already talked about this, but how stupid do you gotta be as a pro wrestling promotion to think, oh, we're just gonna make a storyline out of this. We're just gonna work this a little bit While this guy has no fucking clue what wrestling is and he's already been set off by his chat and by the incident that happened earlier in the day. Idiots, dude. And then, and then the, the, the, the wrestling company telling their own employees not to go to the police, not to work with the police, to have everything run through them after. They're the biggest fuck ups in the situation outside of Raja, to even allow this to happen. Bunch of scumbags, man. Shut the whole fucking thing down. And I know that would put some people out of work, but didn't learn their lesson when it happened. Tried to hide information from the police, shut them down. Breaking news update. As we expected, kind of disappointedly so, Raza Jackson has already made bail. Not less than five hours after his arrest yesterday, Raza Jackson has been released. And Rampage Jackson says Raja doing okay after arrest. He fucked up. I mean, we all know that Raja fucked up. And again, I'm not trying to celebrate this young man, you know, being taken into custody, whatever. I just think that justice needs to be served. And what he did, we have seen no remorse for, we have seen no statement of guilt for. We've seen nothing. But my bad. After he found out the guy he assaulted, punched continuously without stopping, may have been seriously injured and potentially could have died. All he said was, y' all gotta quit playing with me. So, yeah, I'm a little disappointed that immediately right after he's arrested, he's back out. Now he's on bond. 50k bond was posted. Quentin Rampage Jackson said his son was back home and doing okay hours after he was booked for felony battery. So a felony battery case on Thursday, telling his buddies he's well aware of the fact that Raja fucked up. And again, here's the thing too, I don't necessarily envy the spot Rampage Jackson is in right now because there's not much he can really say. I did not like Rampage's response when this first hit the fan. To immediately point the finger at Psycho Stew and blame and point and this and that and call, call it a work. It was all bad. No responsibility accepted whatsoever. And then he kind of walked that back. And you know, he's up my son up all this. But a lot of the excuses and the placing the blame I did not like. But again, it is his son and it is a tough spot to be in. And maybe Rampage, you know, I don't want to get into their personal stuff, but maybe the way he talks to his son needs to change now. As it was clear Raja was like trying to show how Tough. He was. I don't know if that was to the audience or to his dad, but it was super weird. Rampage went live on kick. Why is he still doing that? Following the 25 year old's arrest, and at one point he opened up on the aftermath of the Knox pro wrestling scandal that left Psycho Stu hospitalized. I'm doing okay, I'm holding up well, Rampage said, adding he understands the situation is no longer under his control. He fucked up, he fucked up. He's going to learn his lesson. It is what it is. All I can do is be a dad. He don't listen to me. At the end of the day, I can't. He can't say I didn't do what I was supposed to do as a dad. He was held on $50,000 bond before getting out. Hours later, Rampage hasn't shied away from sharing his opinion on the matter. Feels Raja needs to serve time again. It almost reads like Rampage is like, yeah, I did what I was supposed to do as a dad and bailed him out. Okay? And he's right, you know, Rampage is doing what he can for his son. Probably gonna get him a good lawyer. But I also agree that, like Rampage said, he needs to spend time in there. He needs to atone for this. It's inexcusable. He's a 25 year old man. This is not some kid that just made a mistake. I hate that. I hate this whole like, oh, kid made a mistake. Hey, he's a kid. No, that's a 25 year old man. He can buy alcohol, he can rent a car, he can buy a home, he can vote. That's an adult. And yes, people make mistakes. But a mistake is you slam Psycho Stew on his head and you hit him once or twice realize, oh, I actually hurt this guy. I shouldn't start. I should stop doing what I'm doing. I should not continue hitting him. That's what a mistake is, apologize. Seek to get him some help. He didn't make a mistake. He consciously chose to go in there and again, I think punch Psycho Stew until he got tired. Regardless of the outcome, I don't think there was any point in Raj's head where he went, I might kill this guy. I need to stop. No, I think he was going to punch him until he got tired enough to where he just physically couldn't. So, no, I don't want to hear he made a mistake. I don't want to hear he was a kid. I don't want to hear anger management. I want to hear jail time and offering penance. That's what I want to hear. Seeing how Rampage responded to it, I only can assume that Raj would be just as bad. But anyway, that's the the double breaking news. We'll keep an eye on this situation. 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