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The Herd with Colin Cowherd
What's Wright - Best Of - Chiefs will BEAT Bills, Mahomes vs. Allen, did Ravens PRESSURE Lamar + Nick's 5 Best Bets NFL Week 9
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Nick Wright
Welcome to the Best of the Week for what's Right with Nick Wright. The best takes and moments from this week on the show. Enjoy. Let's get to the annual the Bills annual Super bowl, their regular season game against the Chiefs.
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Co-host or Guest Analyst
Yeah, it is super bowl week over there in Buffalo and Buffalo's home home dogs this time. I know what, what do you think we're going to learn more from? Or which team do you think we're going to learn more from in this game?
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Nick Wright
So a lot here, right? And the Bills likely without Ed Oliver, which is brutal for them. The Chiefs definitely without their starting left tackle, Josh Simmons. I do expect him back, by the way, in November, but he's not going to be there for this game. Trey Smith should be back, which is important. Those are the maybe most noteworthy injuries or absences for the Bills. The real question to me is can this defense slow down what has become the most pro with respect to the Colts, the most prolific offense in the NFL? That is that, that's the question for Buffalo and for Kansas City. It is actually a similar question in this regard, which is the Chiefs have the defense. The last two weeks has been unbelievable. But you're playing Mariota and you're playing the Raiders. When they have played legitimate quarterbacks, those teams have moved the ball. Now listen, the Lions only scored 17 points. But. But they moved the ball. The Prince and the Jags moved the ball. Baltimore, in the three quarters Lamar played, moved the ball. Philly actually struggled a bit moving the ball, but the Chargers moved the ball. So this Chiefs defense, can it generate enough of a pass rush without having to send blitz after blitz after blitz to disrupt Josh Allen? So those are the real the focus is going to be on Allen and Mahomes, but as far as learning more about either of these teams, it's going to be more about the defensive side of the game. But I will also say this, if I were just to name a few. Bill Simmons or Mike Greenberg or Jim Rome or Joe Montana or Steven Ruiz or Dominique Foxworth. Some of these people are my good friends or colleague or Colin Cowherd, my mentor and dear, dear friend. Any of a dozen people who in September or August definitively declared that the best quarterback in football is Josh Allen. I'd be a little nervous this week because 20 some million people are going to watch the Chiefs go to Buffalo in what very well might be the last time Mahomes and Allen ever play in that stadium. And I think they're going to watch Patrick put on an absolute masterclass. And I understand that it was very in vogue as it is every September. And again, I have been very complimentary of Josh the last couple years, but it was very in vogue to just flatly assert, oh, Josh Allen's the best player in the league after the first few weeks of the season. And since then he's been good but not great. The team has been just fine since that three and oh start two and two. And right now, this year, the only win the Bills have to hang their hat on is a Ravens win. That Ravens win that has not, I guess I think it's fair to say, aged amazingly because the Ravens were such a mess the first six weeks of the year. And this gets us to demons a the rivalry question. So go ahead. I'll let you.
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Co-host or Guest Analyst
Yes, like you, like you said, this is going to be the 10th time that they face each other. So what would Alan need to do in this game for it to be considered a rivalry or a true rivalry?
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Nick Wright
So I under it is a rivalry. I want to like. I, I don't think it's not a rivalry. It's the two best quarterbacks in the league and it is two of the three best teams in the league over the last five years. I don't think you can call it the two best teams in the league because I think you have to give Philadelphia its credit. They've been to two Super Bowls. They've won one. But it is, it is unlike any rivalry we've seen in NFL history where despite the fact that the teams are, you know, in any given year even or one guy just has a slight advantage early on when they were playing. The Chiefs clearly had the better offensive weapons. The Bills clearly had the better defense. The last couple years, the Bills probably had the better offensive weapons, offensive line, running back, core tight ends, you know, and the Chiefs might have actually had the better defense. And one one team has consistently won the regular season matchups and one team has won every single one of the postseason matchups. And it is and I, you know, ranted about this on the TV show yesterday, so I don't have to spend too much time on it here, but people so badly want it to be Brady Payton, and it has just been nothing like Brady Payton. And it's maddening to me. Brady Payton was Peyton was the guy with the multiple MVPs, Peyton was the guy with the crazy stats. And Brady was the one with the rings in this instance. And by the way, Peyton, in their third playoff matchup beat Brady. And in their fourth playoff matchup beat Brady. And in their fifth and final playoff matchup beat Brady. Fact that nobody seems to remember but me is Peyton finished the Brady Payton playoff rivalry with a winning record. He was 1 and 2 with the Colts and 2 and oh, with the Broncos. But set that aside. Josh and Patrick. Josh is the. Patrick is the one with multiple MVPs, Patrick is the one with the Gaudier stats, and Patrick is the only one that's ever won. So it is far closer to Jordan Ewing or LeBron Toronto than it is Bird Magic or Peyton Brady.
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Nick Wright
What are you laughing, Braun?
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Co-host or Guest Analyst
Toronto is crazy.
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Nick Wright
Yeah, I mean, that's what it's been. I mean, that's what that they. Even when Toronto had the better regular season record than Cleveland, even when they were the favorite in the series, which people will pretend didn't happen, but actually, is that true?
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Co-host or Guest Analyst
Mahomes has always had the gaudier stats. I feel like some years Josh Allen was beaten Patrick Mahomes out.
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Nick Wright
Well, no, I mean, last year, Josh was literally league mvp. And the year before, Josh had better individual numbers, but I'm talking about for the totality of their careers. Patrick has more passing yards, more touchdowns, fewer turnovers, a higher passer rating. And no, no, the last two years, Josh has had the. The better numbers. And the last two years they've played in the playoffs. Once in Josh's building, once in Patrick's. The last two years, Josh has had the ball in his hands. Less than five minutes remaining, down three points, chance to go slay the dragon. And the last two years, the Bills have walked off the field getting zero points from those drives and the Chiefs celebrate. I mean, that's just what's happened. And, and so I just. People so badly want Patrick Dava here and he just doesn't at this point. And as far as. Can this game change that? No. Could the. Would the Bills beating the Chiefs in the playoffs finally change that? Sure, but we're a far. A long way from it. All right, let's talk mvp.
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Co-host or Guest Analyst
Yeah. How far do you think that this game will go in deciding the mvp? Well, and also another follow up on this. Could the loser still be eligible for mvp?
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Nick Wright
Oh, yeah. I mean, again, we do too much. We just. It's week eight or we just finished week eight. A lot of people are still eligible for mvp. They're not knocked out of it here. But Josh's MVP case right now to me is very shaky. And listen, I was on the record throughout last season that I thought at the end of last season he was the mvp. But right now, this moment, Josh's team has a good but not great record. But that's the same with Patrick. They both have five wins. Josh is however 20th in the NFL in passing yards. He is tied for 14th in the NFL in passing touchdowns. He is ninth in the NFL in passer rating.
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Co-host or Guest Analyst
And.
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Nick Wright
You can say, well you know we've got to and we do have have to give Josh credit for the rushing piece of it. So he's rushed for 260 yards and has rushed for five touchdowns. The touchdowns more impressive than the yards, obviously. On that note, Josh has not up to this point played like an mvp. And the point I was making earlier after he was unbelievable in that Ravens game and he was unbelievable in the Dolphins game, that was the game after the Dolphins game when Mike Greenberg said he's never seen anyone play the position better than Josh Allen. Since those three games, those opening three weeks he's been mediocre. Against the Saints, threw for 200 yards, two touchdowns and a pick. Against the Patriots and a loss, threw for two touchdown or two touchdowns. One pick and 253 yards. Against the Falcons in a loss was bad, two touchdowns, two picks, a 73 rating, 180 yards. And against the Panthers last week didn't have to do anything and I mean they won 40 to nine. You don't hold it against me through for 160 yards. So it is right now if we were talking NFL MVP as far as not projection to Monse on who's going to win it but on who if the award were given out, if we had a mid season mvp, better candidates than Josh would be Drake May who honestly I think would be the mid season mvp. I think right now, this moment, Drake May has, you could argue has been the mvp. Drake has a better case. Jonathan Taylor, if we're going to open it up to running backs has a better case. Matthew Stafford.
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Co-host or Guest Analyst
Baker like I know he got knocked out but given the totality his, his season has been yes, if not better than Josh Allen's up to this point.
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Nick Wright
Yes, I and so the right now if again if it were voted on right now my, my top five would be Drake, Stafford, Taylor, Baker and Patrick. And then I think you'd, well I'm going with Jonathan Taylor as the MVP of that team if it's a quarterback only, then Daniel Jones would have to be involved. Jared Goff, some would argue. And Jalen hurts, I wouldn't argue. But the 20 touchdowns to two turnovers something else. And the insane passer rating, you know, is something else. It's just his yards are so low. It's a tough one. But all those guys set jail him aside because he's such a unique case have stronger MVP cases at this moment than Josh. All right, let's a couple more questions on this.
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Co-host or Guest Analyst
So you joked on Tuesday's show that if the Chiefs lost the or won the regular season matchup that they might be in jeopardy to lose the postseason matchup. Are you at all worried about that with this game coming up?
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Nick Wright
Here's what I find really interesting. This is the first time these two teams since Patrick and Josh have been there are playing in the regular season with neither one of them in first in their own division. Usually both are in first. This is the only time that neither's been in first. And I do feel that the Chiefs historically have had an edge in the playoff matchup against Buffalo demand say because Buffalo goes all out for that regular season game and the Chiefs to me have a pretty vanilla game plan. They obviously want to win and they've been important games but a pretty vanilla game plan and try to use that regular season game as a scouting opportunity for the postseason game. I don't know that Kansas City or Buffalo for that matter really has that luxury this matchup because neither one of these teams say it again.
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Co-host or Guest Analyst
Oh, I was going to assume with folks being hurt like you can't get a real temperature test.
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Nick Wright
But no, no, no. It's because both of these teams are in a real divisional fight. Neither one of these teams wants to be a wild card since Josh and Patrick have been there. They've never neither one of them ever has been a wild card like and so that where you have to start the postseason on the road. Both of these teams I'm sure believe they are still very alive for the number one seed. The the Chiefs get to play the Colts that I don't think the Bills and Colts play each other, do they.
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Co-host or Guest Analyst
They don't say both of them are going to be going going.
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Nick Wright
I would think they're all I yeah because it's the the Chiefs lose this game. I mean they'll be going into week 10, the 7 seed. The Bills lose this game and New England takes an even stronger hold on the division. So you it is it's a super important spot for both teams and I am pleasantly surprised that the Chiefs are road favorites. Like we've seen the Bills come to Arrowhead and the Bills be road favorites. The Chiefs being road favorites with what people were saying about Kansas City just four weeks ago is pretty stunning. Today's show is brought to you by our presenting sponsor, Hard Rock Bet. As I was just talking about, there are plenty of great games in week nine, including of course the biggest game that the Bills play all year or every year. Chiefs Bills in the regular season. You can find odds to bet on any of these streaks right now in the hard rock bet app. Juju has caught two or more balls in six straight games. Is over, under is one and a half with plus money on the over at plus 105. I like that one. In four or five games since the tackle that turned the tide, Mahomes has thrown three or more touchdowns. You can get over two and a half pass TDs at plus 160. If you still haven't tried your first bet on Hard Rock Bet, there's still time for you to get $150 in bonus bets. If you win, just place a $5 bet and if it hits you get not only your winnings, but also an extra $150 in bonus bets. New promos every day. So if you're listening to this later, just open the app and check out what you've got. Any day of the week, download the Hard Rock Bet app today, Take a look around and make your first deposit payable and bonus bets. Not a cash offer offered by the Seminole Tribe of Florida in Florida. Offered by Seminole hard Rock Digital LLC in all other states. Must be 21 plus and physically present in Arizona, Colorado, Florida, Illinois, Indiana, New Jersey, Ohio, Tennessee or Virginia to play. Terms and conditions apply. Concerned about gambling in Florida? Call 1-888-Admitted in Indian if you or someone you know has a gambling problem and wants help, call 1-809 with it gambling problem, call 1-800- gambler in Arizona, Colorado, Illinois, New Jersey, Ohio, Tennessee or Virginia.
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Nick Wright
Hey there.
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Kyle McLaughlin
I'm Kyle McLaughlin. You might know me as that guy from Twin Peaks, Sex and the City, or just the Internet's dad. I have a new podcast called what Are We Even Doing? Where I embark on a noble quest to understand the brilliant chaos of youth culture.
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Nick Wright
Daddy's looking good.
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Kyle McLaughlin
Each week I invite someone fascinating to join me. Actors, musicians, creatives, highly evolved digital life forms. And we talk about what they love. Sometimes I'll drizzle a little honey in.
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There too if I'm feeling sexy in the morning.
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Kyle McLaughlin
What keeps them going?
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And you're maybe my biggest competition on social media.
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Nick Wright
Like when a kid says bruh to.
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Kyle McLaughlin
Me and how they're navigating this high speed roller coaster we call reality.
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In Australia, you're looking out for snakes, spiders and Right.
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Nick Wright
Hey, he's no Trey McDougal. Chill.
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Kyle McLaughlin
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Co-host or Guest Analyst
Let's talk about Lamar Jackson and how it seems that Baltimore might have lied on their injury report. You know, we've got the whole thing going on with the NBA right now, so it's a sensitive time. But you think that everybody's missing the real story and this debacle. What. What would that be?
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Nick Wright
Yes. So listen, I don't, I understand why of all the weeks to be like oh our bad, our quarterback that we said was a full participant was actually limited and he didn't take any reps with the ones he was actually out with the SC team and that everybody thinks is playing is not playing. Why this was the worst week imaginable to make that mistake. From a conspiratorial perspective, I understand that, but I do not think that's the story. I think that's secondary to the story. And the story is I believe the Ravens lied on the injury report not to get a competitive advantage, but they lied on the injury report as a way to pressure Lamar Jackson into play. And this demand follows a pattern. And I am going to lay it all out for you with John Harbaugh's own words in twin and keep in mind, Lamar has no agent. Lamar is self represented there. His mom does it. And the reason I say that is because whenever you hear reports about Lamar's status, it only can come from the team. He doesn't have an agent feeding Rapaport or Schefter stuff. And so and by the way I can we please get just a sidebar. Can we please get real news at some point again? I mean we Carson Wentz evidently has been at a broken entire left side of his body for three weeks. Not reported anywhere. Trayvon Diggs suffered a concussion at home that has now put him on the ir. We have no info about it. Lamar Jackson, nobody had a clue. He might actually miss time and didn't really practice until Saturday morning. And yet in place of that, instead of getting that real info, what we get is the same five people racing to publish the exact same information seconds ahead of each other about extensions and undrafted free agents signing with practice squads with agents cited and agencies credited. It's just gross. And you also, I like you saw it again yesterday with with who is it that oh what's his name? The great Sir Tan Sir Tan Sur Tan got hurt and Jordan Schultz to his credit had it first. And like hey this is multi week four to six weeks maybe. IR is a question and then we get this. And this might seem unfair but from one of the, you know, biggest insiders, Patan the reigning Defensive Player of the Year suffered a peck injrain in the win over the Cowboys. He's considered week to week and could land on ir, but solid news. Why that's not solid. Again, that's not a positive news story. It sucks. It's football, there's injuries, but everything doesn't have to be framed as avoided catastrophe better than expected. They the team is relieved. If everything is better than expected, then nothing is better than expected. But I digress to go to the Harbaugh Ravens thing A Harbaugh Lamar thing 2021 Lamar hurts his ankle week 14 John Harbaugh says about him playing week 15 again there are games week 15, 16, 17, 18 about him playing week 15. I'd say he has a chance. It's one of those things. It's an ankle sprain. If he starts feeling good and everything is all right, we'll check him out probably pre game. So Harbaugh is saying he's going to be a true game time decision. He's in all the preparations and all of that. We'll see where we're at. Lamar did not play again that season and then after the year, John Harbaugh says, quote, Lamar felt like he was going to be back. The first week he thought he had a chance. The second week he assured me he said I'll be back. He missed four straight weeks. Then next year Lamar gets hurt in week 13 during the game. There are five games left plus the playoffs. Harbaugh says it's not a season ending type of knee. We'll get more tests tomorrow and let you know how long it's going to be. We'll see if he can go back, if he can go back this week for week 14. If not, he'll be sometime after that shortly. Lamar missed the rest of the regular season, missed five straight games. The Ravens shifter then reports because Ravens made the playoffs anyway that Lamar is expected to play in the playoff game, according to sources. Again, there are no Lamar sources other than the Ravens. Lamar then misses the playoff game and then if you remember tweets out about how it's a grade two, almost a grade three PCL strength. And a lot of us, myself included, speculated that do with remember he didn't have a contract, that he was protecting himself because of the contract, which is totally reasonable. Then there's the hamstring injury this year. After the Rams game 16 days ago, John Harbaugh was asked about Lamar, about his optimism surrounding the team going into the buy and he said, quote our quarterback is going to be back. That's probably a big one. And then Friday after practice, Harbaugh said full practice today for Lamar. So that was good. There is only one way to read those sequence of events. That sequence of events. Lamar and the Ravens are consistently not on the same page about Lamar's injury timelines. And I believe the Ravens listed him as a full participant and talked about him as if it was a certainty that he was going to play on Sunday as a way to pressure him into playing. And then Saturday morning Lamar shut it all down. I'm not saying who's right and who's wrong in this. It's certainly in play. The Ravens are just far too optimistic and it's in play that Lamar is the type of player who if he just doesn't feel close to 100%, he doesn't feel comfortable going out there, so be it. I'm not judging any of that. I am saying failing to acknowledge that that is the clear cut, inarguable history here is failing to just read the transcripts. And it is because of that demons that I while I think Lamar is going to play Thursday night, I am not certain of it. And even though Harbaugh said yesterday full practice we're expecting him to play, I.
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Co-host or Guest Analyst
I don't think you can understand that. There's like you saying Lamar doesn't have an agent but Lamar has somebody that's looking at his body when he goes to get checked on on this type of stuff. Why are they not just talking to the Ravens? I'm kind of confused on why there's not just a a doctor or somebody telling oh he's out for X amount of weeks.
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Nick Wright
Because what's pretty clear is to me because yeah, he has a doctor. It's the Ravens doctor. And Todd Monken alluded to this a week ago about whether or not Lamar had been cleared. What is pretty clear given Harbaugh's comments is throughout all of these injuries and again, maybe the Ravens team doctor is doing a bad job, but he has been cleared to play each time and.
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Co-host or Guest Analyst
It'S just his choice.
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Nick Wright
I can't. Right. And that I think is frustrated has frustrated the Ravens over the years because it the way it works is this. You cannot play without the doctor clearing you, but once the doctor clears you, you then have to be comfortable to play obviously.
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Co-host or Guest Analyst
Right.
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Nick Wright
And I am reading this as a very obvious pattern of the doctor clearing him and him saying no, I'm not comfortable playing again. Maybe it's the Ravens team doctor issue. I'm not, I, I'm really not banging on Lamar on this. I am saying that there is a clear disconnect between coach, medical staff and player. Now with all that said Damanze, the Ravens are now the favorites to win the division. Favorites Snoop Huntley saved their season. Awesome performance. And if you look at their schedule coming up and you look at the Bengals blowing a game, just blowing against the jets and the Steelers getting thoroughly outplayed by the packers, you fully expect Monte the Ravens to win their next four. Correct?
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Co-host or Guest Analyst
I mean they could win the rest of the games with Lamar comes back but yeah, 100% yeah the I mean.
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Nick Wright
Certain sure they could win any of those individual games. The but you would be stunned if they lose any of the next four at Miami Thursday night at the Vikings who are a mess at the Browns who have the worst offense in football home for the Jets. So they should be six and five going into the meat of going into the stretch run where in those final six weeks they have two games against the Bengals, two games against the Steelers, a Packers game and a Patriot game and throw that schedule back up. They will be favored in every game they play until week 17. They will be favored obviously in all their home games and they will be road favorites against Tua, J.J. mcCarthy, whoever the Browns quarterback is at that point and Jake Joe Flacco and then they'll be so they've got a shot. Now here is real scenario we've got on our hands which would be hilarious. Let's say the Patriots have some gaudy record which they cook. They're 6 and 2 already. Let's say that Patriots go 12 and 5. I think it's totally reasonable given I think the Patriots play one game the rest of the way against AFC teams currently in the playoff picture. Okay, they it's their second Bills game. So let's say they go 12 and 5 and win the AFC east and the bills also go 12 and 5. Okay, but the Patriots win the AFC East. This is a tiebreaker. And The Ravens go 8 and 9. But that's good enough to win the AFC North. They split with Cincinnati, they split with Pittsburgh, they lose the Packer game and what's their record right now? 2 and 5. Yeah, it's whatever it is, they go 8, 9, but it's enough to win the AFC north. The Ravens, the 8 and 9 Ravens hosting in the playoffs the 12 and 5 Buffalo Bills or the 12 and 5 New England Patriots or the 12 and 5 Denver Broncos or if I'm wrong about the Chiefs, the 12 and 5 like the rate the the worst division winner, no matter the record, will host the best wild card. And the best wild card in the AFC this year is going to have a great record. Be it the Pats, be it the Bills, be it the Chiefs, be it the Chargers, be it the Broncos, one of those teams is going to win 11, maybe 12 games and have to go to an eight or nine win, Baltimore or Cincinnati or Pittsburgh. And it's just what's going to happen. And so. All right, all right, flip side is the Bears game. The Bears.
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Co-host or Guest Analyst
So Caleb made some more errors. That Ravens defense that everybody's been talking trash about, they look pretty good.
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Nick Wright
Well, I don't know if people talking trash or they were just watching.
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Co-host or Guest Analyst
They've been bad. They've, they've, they. No, they've been pretty bad. But yeah. How many more errors or how long will you give Caleb before you give up on him?
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Nick Wright
Well, I'm not going to give up on him anytime soon. But he wasn't good. I mean, I'm not going to act like he was good. And that was a huge missed opportunity for them, for him and for them. And you'd like to give them a pass, be like, oh, they were on a four game winning streak, they were bound to lose. But you can't losing that game in that fashion to Tyler Huntley. And Caleb playing that mediocre is a huge disappointment. Now. I still think, as I was saying when I was doing the playoff picture before, they're super live right now. They're in eighth place and I think San Francisco is going to be trending in the wrong direction. And the their next two to Monze, their next three, I should say are Bengals, Giants, Vikings. So the Bears should be seven and three. They should be seven and three going into a really tough stretch of games. And so, but Caleb's got to play better. There's no way around it. Caleb flatly has to play better. And I think at this point, I think everybody can acknowledge and accept that.
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Co-host or Guest Analyst
Do you think Chicago's more committed to Caleb or Ben Johnson?
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Nick Wright
They're fully committed to both. I mean, the thing is this, Ben took the job because of Caleb, right? So the, he wants to make this work, but Caleb's got to play better. There's no, there's no sugar coating that. By the way, if you're thinking about upgrading to the all new iPhone 17 Pro, designed to be the most powerful iPhone ever, but you're also thinking about the traffic on your way to the store or transferring all your data. Good news, when you order a new Phone online. With Boost Mobile, they'll send an expert to your home. How about that? Or home. Or work to deliver your brand new iPhone pro and get you set up on Boost Mobile within minutes. No hassle. So get the new iPhone. It comes right to you and a tech comes in. Get all your stuff transferred, get you set up on the network. Visit Boost mobile.com to get started. Delivery available for select devices purchased at Boost Mobile. Terms, of course, do apply.
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Nick Wright
Hey there.
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Kyle McLaughlin
I'm Kyle McLaughlin. You might know me as that guy from Twin Peaks, Sex and the City, or just the Internet's dad. I have a new podcast called what Are We Even Doing? Where I embark on a noble quest to understand the brilliant chaos of youth culture.
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Nick Wright
Daddy's looking good.
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Kyle McLaughlin
Each week I invite someone fascinating to join me. Actors, musicians, creatives, highly evolved digital life forms. And we talk about what they love. Sometimes I'll driz a little honey in.
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Co-host or Guest Analyst
There too if I'm feeling sexy in the morning.
- [45:28]
Kyle McLaughlin
What keeps them going?
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- [45:32]
Nick Wright
Like when a kid says bra to.
- [45:33]
Kyle McLaughlin
Me and how they're navigating this high speed roller coaster poster we call reality.
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In Australia, you're looking out for snakes, spiders and boys, right?
- [45:42]
Nick Wright
Hey, he's no Trey McDougall. Chill.
- [45:43]
Ben Westoff
This is like the comments section of my Instagram.
- [45:47]
Kyle McLaughlin
Join me and my delightful guests every Thursday and let's get weird together in a good way. Listen to what are we even doing on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
- [46:00]
Ben Westoff
Whenever I got through the window, I.
- [46:02]
Nick Wright
Tried to pick him up and his body was stiff.
- [46:05]
Ben Westoff
I'm Ben Westoff and this is the Peacemaker, a true crime podcast investigating a string of mysterious deaths at a prestigious Missouri university and the fraternity brother at the center of it all. A few years back, two fraternity brothers died by suicide just weeks apart in shockingly similar ways. Both were discovered by the same student, Brandon Grossheim.
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Nick Wright
I laid him down. I was. Curtis stated that I tilted his head back and presented again mouth to mouth in cpr.
- [46:37]
Ben Westoff
At first people gave Brandon the benefit of the doubt, but when three more acquaintances died the following year, the tide turned.
- [46:45]
Nick Wright
The lawsuit says Grosseim was one of the last people to see each victim before their deaths.
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Ben Westoff
Was he profoundly unlucky or was something much darker at play? Listen to the Peacemaker podcast on the I Heart Radio Radio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast.
- [47:07]
Nick Wright
Here are my five picks this week.
- [47:10]
Co-host or Guest Analyst
First pick is Detroit minus eight and a half going up against Minnesota.
- [47:15]
Nick Wright
Golf evidently is 80 against the spread against the Vikings in his Lions career. The Lions are on extended rest. Minnesota right now might be a total mess. I think the Lions defense which against bad quarterbacks really can get after you could give J.J. mcCarthy hell. And we don't know if J.J. mcCarthy, how hurt was he or how much were they hiding him. And what we do know about the Lions, the Lions love pouring it on. The Lions love annihilating teams. And so I, I don't mind laying the eight and a half points. I love the Lions in this spot. One of my, maybe my favorite play of the week. It's the first one. Detroit minus eight and a half.
- [48:04]
Co-host or Guest Analyst
Yeah. Never been so sure about minus eight and a half spread. I'm very confident in that one. Pittsburgh plus three versus Indy.
- [48:13]
Nick Wright
So I'm very you saying you're very confident in that one?
- [48:16]
Co-host or Guest Analyst
Oh, you're getting off?
- [48:18]
Nick Wright
No, no, no, not at all.
- [48:20]
Co-host or Guest Analyst
Okay.
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Nick Wright
I'm just curious if that means it's going to be the Detroit money line is going to be a leg of your teaser.
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Co-host or Guest Analyst
Oh yeah, because you like eight point.
- [48:31]
Nick Wright
Teasers and if you like them minus eight and a half like that to me is pretty good for your eight point teaser. A pretty good teaser.
- [48:39]
Co-host or Guest Analyst
Like pretty good.
- [48:41]
Nick Wright
All right, Pittsburgh plus three against Indy. Tomlin at home getting at least a field goal. All these numbers we went against them last week, Green Bay. We said we didn't care and we were right. We're going back with them this week off a lot loss. Tomlin 61 and 47 against the spread. They're 25 and 15 against the spread as an underdog off an outright loss and 12 and 4 against the spread as a home dog off a straight up loss. Tomlin 228 and 3 as a home dog against the spread. Now the Steelers defense against that offense does worry you a bit but Rogers has been good again. I'm getting three points. I don't feel spectacular about this from having watched that Steelers defense over the course of season and watched the Colts offense. But there's just all of Tomlin's history says if you're giving him at least three points at home he doesn't lose. He covers that was the case last week and he didn't and we sniffed it out. I don't think it's going to happen back to back. I like Pittsburgh plus three next San.
- [49:57]
Co-host or Guest Analyst
Francisco minus two and a half going up against the Giants.
- [50:01]
Nick Wright
I listen this is just a play that the Giant season ended with the blown game to Denver and last week they got bullied by the Eagles and they lost another key player in Scatter Boo due to injury. So no scaboo, no neighbors. Weird noise this week surrounding their D line with Carl Banks calling out Dexter Lawrence. With Thibodeau potentially being on the trade block I think the Giants are floundering a bit. I don't really think it matters which Niners quarterback plays. All lay the two and a half with the Giants going east coast to west coast. All lay the two and a half with San Francisco next.
- [50:48]
Co-host or Guest Analyst
Who would have thought you got the Chiefs minus one and a half at Buffalo.
- [50:52]
Nick Wright
Listen, I just think the Chiefs are the best team in the league and I'm laying less than a field goal. I this is the the sharp side is going to say I would imagine getting points with the Bills at home. You have to do it. I don't care about that and a lot of mahomes is against the spread grizzly against the spread numbers. The last few years have to do with the Chiefs being big favorites. They are not big favorites here. They're tiny favorites. I think the Chiefs win by at least a field goal. I'll lay the point and a half and last one. This is the one I added when I took out Cowboys.
- [51:29]
Co-host or Guest Analyst
Yeah, Seattle minus three at Washington.
- [51:31]
Nick Wright
Yeah, listen, I don't love the west coast to East. However Washington is banged up. The defense has been bad. I do think Jaden's going to play, but I think Seattle is one of the more underrated teams in the league right now. And Seattle's one of the only teams that going west coast to east actually helps them as far as covering 178 and 2 over the last basic basically half decade when they're playing on the East Coast. I think Seattle's really good. I think Washington is bad and injured. I'll take Seattle minus three. So we are going to Monte with four favorites. We are going with Detroit laying eight and a half against Minnesota, San Francisco laying two and a half against the Giants, Kansas City laying one and a half at Buffalo, Seattle laying three at Washington and the one dog is Pittsburgh plus three at home against the seven and one Indianapolis Colts. Look, if you smoke or dip, I'm going to give you a few good reasons to try Zen Nicotine Pouches. First, Zen is America's number one nicotine pouch brand, and Zen offers an unbelievable rewards program. There's a lot of options for nicotine satisfaction, but there's only one Zen. Visit zen.com find to find Zen at a store near you. Again, that zen.com find zyn spelled z y N. This product contains nicotine. Nicotine is an addictive chemical. Johnny Knoxville here. Check out Crimeless Hillbilly Heist, my new true crime podcasts from Smartless Media, Campside Media and big money players. It's the true story of the almost perfect crime and the nimrods who almost pulled it off. It was kind of like the perfect storm in a sewer.
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Kyle McLaughlin
That was dumb.
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Nick Wright
Do not follow my example. Listen to Crimeless Hillbilly Heist on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast. What's up everybody? It's snacks from the Trap nerds and all October long we're bringing you the horror.
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Kyle McLaughlin
We kicking off this month with some.
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Nick Wright
Of my best horror games to keep you terrified.
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Nick Wright
And it's the return of Tony's Horror.
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Nick Wright
Reading with commentary and we'll cap it off with a horror movie Battle Royale. Open your free Aha. Radio app and search Trapped Nerds Podcast and listen now.
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Kyle McLaughlin
Hey, I'm Kyle McLaughlin. You might know me as that guy from Twin Peaks, Sex and the City, or just the Internet Stand. I have a new podcast called what Are We Even Doing? Where I embark on a noble quest to understand the brilliant chaos of youth culture. Each week I invite someone fascinating to join me to talk about navigating this high speed roller coaster we call reality. Join me and my delightful guests every Thursday and let's get weird together in a good way. Listen to what Are We Even doing on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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