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What's Wright - Best Of - Nick Wright goes SCORCHED EARTH on Josh Allen's media coverage, Lamar Jackson to Raiders? LeBron James x Lakers DRAMA brewing
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Damani
Big stuff. So the Broncos ended the Bills season on Saturday, got Sean McDermott fired. So they obvious they lost this game. Josh Allen had four turnovers. Do you think that the team built around him kind of failed Josh Allen? Or do you think that Josh Allen failed the Bills with his turnovers?
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Dan
Defending league MVP had four turnovers in a playoff game, including one of the most cartoonish fumbles in the history of the league. That happened. Okay, before I even get in that, that is. You don't have to be a die hard sports fan to understand. Oh, that's probably. That's probably why they lost. Before I get to that piece of it, let me say this on the front end sincerely, and I know Broncos fans aren't going to want to hear this from me and they might say I'm full of shit. Whatever. I can't remember a more gutting postseason injury than the one the Broncos suffered to have won the game. Be celebrating that you're going to the conference championship game at home, have beaten Josh Allen and have watched Bo Nix play one of, in my opinion, best games of his life and two separate times come through for you in just huge spots before the half to put the Bills on tilt, which it's 10:10 with 30 seconds left and Josh Allen in the first half. Josh Allen has zero turnovers. The Bills are feeling fine. Bo Nicks hits that deep bomb to the front corner of the end zone to put the Bills on their back foot. And then late in the game, down four, drives him down, puts him ahead with a minute left. Like whatever skepticism I've had about your quarterback, he was nails on Saturday afternoon. However annoying I have found Sean Payton to be, he called a hell of a game. And you're celebrating, you're feeling great. You really think you can win the Super Bowl. And then you find out on a somewhat nothing play that no one even noticed your quarterback breaks his, broke his ankle and needs surgery. It's just a stomach punch of all stomach punches. And I do I legitimate. Again, Broncos fans, you're allowed to hate me. It's Fine. I legitimately feel sick for you guys and I don't it obviously it's in the same bucket as Halliburton game seven and one you kind of because he had been dealing with an injury the kind of specter loomed. This was just so out of nowhere. I I don't even know. Now on the bright side, it shouldn't impact your next season at all, but this is who knows what next season's going to be. So Broncos, I feel sick for you sincerely. And you guys have proven me wrong all year and I just and Bo, if Bo's going to have a comeback down to earth moment, it ain't going to be this season because he ended last season or he ended he ended this season, pardon me, with probably the best game of his career, all things considered. And in my favorite football weekend of the year with Drake May and Matt Stafford and Josh Allen and CJ Stroud and Sam Darnold, all those guys playing Bo Nicks played the best game. It just is what it is. And I wonder why that version of commentary I just did about Bo Nicks so many folks have trouble doing in the other direction. It's one thing to say this guy, this team that I have always been down on or I have always doubted he with his play proved me wrong. It does feel like people are have an easier time doing that leap than the opposite one which is this guy, this team, this player that I have elevated beyond any realistic place that is justifiable. His play proved me wrong. And instead of being able to do that after Josh Allen's four turnover playoff game folks are just going out making a fools of themselves. So I understand the Bills would not have been there without Josh Allen. No shit. That is the if the standard is standard for criticism is if a guy is the biggest reason a team got to a point then criticizing his play it at that point is unfair. Then I guess we can never criticize any NBA superstar for a playoff performance ever. Because every single NBA superstar is the reason their team gets to the postseason. And so then I guess if you James Harden it you're just an asshole. If you're like he cost his team because the 35 IQ responses well would they have been there without him? No, they wouldn't have. So I guess it's all it's all reputational free roles. It just doesn't and here this is it is not demons. It's not complicated the analysis of Bill's Broncos it's really not oh Josh Allen. Josh Allen. Go ahead.
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Damani
He pooped the Bed. Yeah, he definitely, he messed up pretty badly. I mean, it's, it's four turnovers. That's, that's a lot. I was surprised when Derby got fired, to be honest. I mean, I know that. Go ahead. No, I just know that this is their year and you know, if they lost to the Broncos or if they just lost in this playoff run, it was going to look bad. But in that instance where it was four turnovers, I just felt like they might have let it ride a little bit.
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Dan
But yeah, I, I thought so too, maybe. And we'll get to the McDermott piece. But guys, I'm listening. And I, and I DM'd bill about this. Bill Barnwell. I'm listening to Barnwell this morning, who you guys know, I have as much respect for his football opinions as anyone in the world and I'm stunned because he's talking about how he thought McDermott screwed up by not really impressing upon Josh Allen when they got the ball back with 20 seconds left that he can't do something dumb. And Bill said, and I quote, you have to be aware you have a lunatic at quarterback. And it. The, the agency removal from the soon to be 30 year old defending league MVP, like, well, we can't try to go get points here at the end of the half because the guy might run for no reason. By the way, the scramble was. Even if he hadn't been sacked, the scramble was a dumb play. I'm sorry. Even if he hadn't fumbled because they had no timeouts, like you weren't gonna. It was just a dead play the moment you don't throw the ball. But that guy might just hold the ball like a loaf of bread and lose the football. You just gotta know that. Okay, that, So there's four turnovers, right? The first one's right before the end of the half. It's the worst fumble of the NFL season. The second one is right after the half. It's a blind side hit him that you'd like him to hold onto the ball, but a lot of quarterbacks had problems holding onto the ball this weekend. You want to give him a slight pass on that, so be it. The third one is right after Bo Nix makes his only mistake. You go for a kill shot, you don't need to in a decent down and distance on the fringe of field goal range and you throw a bad pass. The fourth one is the allegedly controversial interception. More on that in a minute. And in between the third and the fourth, you had two passes. One was easy, one was hard that would have won the game. You had Khalil Shakir on a wide receiver screen that I know he would have scored a touchdown on because he did score a touchdown on it. But then we saw you one hopped it to him and then what would have been a tough pass to Dawson Knox in the waning seconds that you missed. Now is are is that asking a lot of the quarterback? Not really. But is it certainly holding him to a highish standard? Sure. But the reason this is fair and the reason some of the the Josh Allen media commentary is so maddening is because folks can't help themselves. But one up the hyperbole it's no longer enough to say I think he might. Even though he's never been to a Super bowl and and even though 360 days ago he for the fourth time in the playoffs shared a field with Patrick Mahomes and for the fourth time was outplayed and lost even though those that happened, I think he might be the best quarterback in the league. That's not enough. And Even though there two of his contemporaries have more league MVPs than him during his during this run in Patrick and Lamar and those same two guys have more first team all pros than him in this run and another one of his contemporaries has been to a Super bowl in Burrow forget Patrick going to five and winning three. Even though all those things are the case, calling him hands down the best player in the league, that's not enough either. And in the last couple few months and this is not a straw man and this is from not only people I like but one of them my dearest friend and boss at the volume coward. Call him the most talented player ever. Ever. The most talented quarterback ever. Greaney yesterday, yesterday after the four turnover game said does it matter of fact no one has ever played the position better. If that is the way he is discussed then you can't also do a blame pie blaming McDermott and Brandon Bean and Brandon Cooks and the poor left guard who didn't fall on Allen's fumble when we're discussing them losing a G playoff game when he had four turnovers. He's the only guy in the league that when they win he's an all time legend and when they lose, even when it's because of his mistakes, it's gotta be someone else's fault. You are not. It is not a tenable sports opinionist position to continually call a player better than historic legends and contemporaries that have more pelts on the wall by a wide margin and then give him a full on pass for a playoff meltdown.
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Damani
And he's on the record saying that he feels like he let his team down.
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Dan
Well, that's the other thing. Josh Allen is more, is more of a realist about what happened.
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Damani
Yeah.
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Dan
Than his media sycophants. Josh Allen was in tears. You know why? Because he is the best player on the team. Obviously. He is their leader. He is the reason they're there and he blew it. That's okay. It's sports. And it wouldn't be that big of a deal if I didn't have to listen to people the day after it happens. Still say he's the. No one's ever played the position better. Are you fucking kidding me? Like take Mahomes out of it. I'm going to go out on a limb and say I think Tom Brady played the position better than Josh Allen.
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Damani
Yeah.
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Dan
Like I. And so I. There is an element of demons. A last week there was a little media or a little mini media and we talked about it. Firestorm about Lynn Jones, the older black lady.
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Damani
Oh yeah.
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Dan
Who said to Liam Cohen like hold your head up high.
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Damani
Yep.
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Dan
All these folks were like, once you turn, once you become media, you don't root anymore. You don't do that. And then those same people are sending tweets. My heart breaks for Josh Allen. He does. Why? Why? Like, I don't mean why like that. Like I, I understand feeling empathy for a person that's a great player that you feel like can't get over the hump. I understand that. But the, the, he doesn't. You don't think C.J. stroud feels like this weekend? I, I, you don't.
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Damani
I think seeing the guy get stopped so many times, I also think people just get caught up with the physicals of Josh Allen. Like he's perfect. Like he's got the big arm, he can run around. He's a big dude. But yeah, he obviously is as sound as he could be.
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Dan
Part of being an all time great is being able to harness your greatest attributes while minimizing the risk associated with them. And I have watched the. He has been incred. The last year's playoff game against Kansas City he fumbled three times. They recovered all of them. The year before the playoff game against Kansas City on what they thought was going to be the game tying drive, he fumbled running the, running around like he did at midfield near halftime. It should have been scooped and scored by the Chiefs. One of his teammates fell on it after the Chiefs kicked it. He has been he's loose with the ball and when he switches his style up to not be loose with the ball this his gaudy stats go down. That's when his passing yardage numbers go down and all. He has not yet shown the ability. To have the type of season where you get the crazy gaudy numbers without the crazy turnovers which is fine. I still think he's the second best quarterback in the league but you gotta call a spade a spade on a four turnover playoff game. And I it he was fine with it. He knew he blew it. And then the get to the follow ups cause there's a lot about the calls and the whining and all of it. So you can go to all this.
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Damani
Yeah. So after the game Josh Allen, Dion Dawkins and Brandon Cooks were all very emotional in their interviews and crying. How do you feel about players crying after around 2 exit?
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Dan
So I think a couple things. Listen, I, I, it does now seem like the Bills were going to fire McDermott if they didn't make the Super Bowl. If they hadn't made that decision.
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Damani
After.
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Dan
Seeing how emotional the players were, I would have felt like sorry Sean, even it's not your fault. We have to, we can't just run this back. This is a, this is a scarred team. And, and demase. Why do you think the Bills were so devastated about this loss in this postseason? Because I have a theory.
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Damani
Well, this was their, this was their desk. This was their shot this year. Like I just feel like this was because nobody else is. I mean you got Drake May, you got all the, I mean you just got Matt Stafford, Mahomes, Burrow, you know, Lamar, they're all gone.
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Dan
It's. So I think they clearly viewed it as the Chiefs aren't there and this is our moment. And that's. And by the way, certainly the media after they reacted to the McDermott firing kept bringing up that this was the moment where the Chiefs aren't there. And this is the other thing, if I'm being transparent here, that frustrates me about the just blowing past like Josh past Patrick in this quarterback hierarchy, folks simultaneously have this opinion. Josh is clearly the best quarterback in the league. He's better than Mahomes. He's been better than Mahomes last few years. They believe that while simultaneously believing this was such a massive missed opportunity for the Buffalo Bills because they finally would have been able to get to a Super bowl without actually having to beat Patrick Mahomes like that. It was. I think they did view it as the path is clear and I don't think they viewed it as the path was clear because Lamar wasn't there because Josh has played Lamar twice in the playoffs and beat them both. I don't think they viewed as the path that's clear because Burrow's not there. Because Burrow only been there the last three years. I think they viewed it as the path that's clear because Patrick's not there and they didn't get there. Now he the crying was interesting to me because I just don't remember the last Like I felt like Cam cried after the super bowl and people killed him for it. This is a divisional round game, but they really thought they were right there. All right, Today's show is brought to you by our presenting sponsor, Hard Rock Bet Florida's sports book. Folks, these playoffs have been unbelievable and I hope you've been cashing in on the unexpected moments on Hard Rock Bet. Two teams are going to punch their tickets to the big game this weekend, and when it comes to these standalone matchups, there's nothing better than a same game parlay. Lock in one game, stack your picks, build your script. Maybe the quarterback throws for 250, the running back goes for 100, the tight ends the first one to hit pay dirt. Hard Rock Bet gives you tons of ways to build your same game parlay, turning game days into into paydays. And if you miss kickoff, don't worry. Hard Rock Bet has live in game betting so you're never too late to the action. Find a winner or grab that player prop you meant to play and live bet between snaps in just a few easy taps. If you haven't tried your first bet on Hard Rock Bet, there's still time for you to get $150 in bonus bets. If you win, just place a $5 bet and if it hits you, you get not only your winnings but also a hun an extra $150 in bonus bets. So just because your favorite team may be out of it, that doesn't mean you have to sit on the sidelines this postseason between same game parlays, live betting, can't miss welcome offer and new promos dropping every day. Hard Rock Bet has you covered all postseason long. That's Hard Rock Bet. Download the Hard Rock Bet app and make your first deposit today. Payable and bonus bets. Not a cash offer offered by the Seminole Tribe of Florida in Florida Offered by Seminole Hard Rock Digital LLC in all other states. Must be 21 plus and physically present in Arizona, Colorado, Florida, Illinois, Indiana, Michigan, New Jersey, Ohio Tennessee or Virginia to play Terms and conditions apply. Concerned about gambling in Florida? Call 1833 play wise in Indiana. If you or someone you know has a gambling problem wants help, call 1-800-9 with it gambling problem, call 1-800- gambler Arizona, Colorado, Illinois, Michigan, New Jersey, Ohio, Tennessee, Virginia support for the show comes.
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Dan
All right? Damani, I threw out a trade on TV yesterday. I don't think it's dumb. Seems like I'm in the minority and not thinking my own trade idea is dumb. Go ahead and let's talk it through.
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Damani
All right, so we're running out of games to talk about. So it's rumor slash trade talk time of the year. People are throwing around trades and rumors. A trade a rumor that you co signed was Lamar for Max Crosby and the number one pick, which would probably be Mendoza to the Raiders.
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Dan
Yeah, I would not like so listen. No, well you might just become a Raider fan. You can just follow Lamar.
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Damani
But yeah, Lamar and Jinty would be pretty cool.
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Dan
So here's the deal. I. I don't. I'm not saying this and I didn't just create this out of thin air. The ESPN did like bold predict for the off season and one of them was could Tom Brady and the Raiders make a play for Lamar Jackson. I don't know that I think the Raiders after watching them and believing in them this year are you know, close enough to make a move even for Lamar Jackson. However, I am more interested in this from the raven side of it and I don't know who the next Ravens head coach is going to be, but whomever it is, I think in the universe where this was available you get the equivalent I believe of demands a five first round picks. The equivalent of five first round picks for Lamar. And by that I mean Max Crosby on the open market is worth two firsts. And we know the number one pick given the Bryce Young trade, it's equivalent, the equivalent that it's worth is a little more than three, you know, middle average first round picks. I know number one pick is literally one first round pick but it's to in order to get it you would have to trade like the 15th pick and two future first to move up that far. So this is the equivalent of, you know, call it five first round picks and you would not be like all right, well now we're in the quarterback wilderness because now you might end up being if Mendoza is not the guy, but you're not trading for the number one overall pick blind say you know, or trading for a future year pick where you don't know who the players are that you'd be taking, you would know you are taking Fernando Mendoza. And the point that the reason I find this interesting from the Ravens perspective, this theoretical fake trade that ESPN alluded to it and then I put a fine tooth comb on or a finer point on I should say I do think that it is a legitimate discussion. What is a better path to winning a championship. Young quarterback on a rookie scale plus Max Crosby, plus the extra 40 some million dollars of cap space to build out the rest of the roster or Lamar Jackson who will enter next year undoubtedly as the highest paid player in the league on a 60 plus million dollar a year contract. I and it is worth noting the two Super Bowls the Ravens have won, they won with cheap quarterbacks and stacked rosters. The Denver Broncos are attempting this right now. I know Bo Nix is now out, but young quarterback, all this talent around them, the Patriots, I you know, don't think they actually have all that much talent around them. I think what the job May and Brable have done is unbelievable. But they spent money this offseason, they have more money to spend this next offseason. You know, I'm not breaking news that good young cheap quarterback who gives you franchise quarterback play on Rookie quarterback salary, add a bunch of pieces has been a very successful model. And then when you add to it what I think could be some squeamishness for the Ravens of a brand new contract for Lamar after at the very least we can call it an injury riddled year. I, I think it's worth a real discussion and it is. I, I also want to make this part clear. This is not an insult to Lamar because if I were the Raiders I would not it like let me again, this is. We're playing in double hypothetical worlds here but let's say the Raiders offered this to the Ravens, Max Crosby and the number one pick for Lamar and the RA and the Ravens said no thank you. And then the Bengals heard it had been offered and they called the Raiders and they said we'll take it for Joe Burrow. If I'm the Raiders, I wouldn't do that deal. I don't think Joe Burrow is worth the number one overall pick plus Max Crosby because even with Lamar having an injury riddled year, Joe to me is an even bigger injury risk than Lamar. And Joe has not shown consistent regular season first team all pro level play the way Joe has one year like that in his career, the way Lamar has. So it is there's. There are only three veteran quarterbacks in the league that if I were the Raiders I would offer this package up for Lamar, Josh and Patrick. Obviously the Chiefs and the Bills, there's nothing you could offer those teams to get them to trade Josh or Patrick. The Ravens, given how this last year went, the new head coach Lamar's pending contract situation, I just wonder if the door is creaked open to the point of if the Ravens were even considering this, why would they have fired Harbaugh again? Now we're in like quadruple hypotheticals. What I will tell you is this. They if they wanted the Harbaugh Lamar relationship, that partnership could not continue. And had they kept Harbaugh then Lamar really has a hammer because he also does have a no trade clause in his deal. So you might say, Nick, you're talking about a trade. He has no trade clause. Players again can waive those and can make it can decide, you know, kind of steer where they want to go potentially because of it. I just think it is not, I think the Lamar contract is going to be a big enough story this offseason that this is of all the fake trades that exist Amanza, this is not total whole cloth like that. I do think that there will be some of that discussion over the offseason so you're saying I'm not predicting it's going to happen.
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Damani
Crosby, Mendoza, and no more picks or like that's it for no more or like multiple other first round picks. Right. With.
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Dan
No, no, no, no, no. What I'm, what I'm saying is the number one overall pick to acquire that by itself usually takes three first round picks.
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Damani
Right.
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Dan
And to acquire Max Crosby would take two first round picks. So I'm saying this is the equivalent in value of five first round picks. But the trade would be essentially Fernando Mendoza and Max Crosby for Lamar Jackson.
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Damani
Yeah.
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Dan
And. And so you're out on it. Most people are out on it.
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Damani
Yeah. No, I mean if it were multiple, I thought it was going to be multiple. But I, I see what you're saying in it being multiple, first to equal the number one pick of the draft, but. Yeah, but yeah, no, that's not enough. I need some more retooling if we're getting rid of Lamar.
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Dan
But so. Well, that's the thing is this, I don't think. And by the way, I guess you're off the books. You get all the space, get all.
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Damani
The money off of Lamar's contract.
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Dan
Right. And it wouldn't just be, here's the other thing you wouldn't be doing this being like, all right, we're rebuilding. You'd be doing it saying, we have, we saw the windows right now, the commanders, the Patriots, the Bears and the Broncos in the last two years have all made the divisional rounder further with a quarterback that was either a rookie or in his second year. Like we are. We are going for this right now. By the way, if you're thinking about upgrading to the allnew iPhone 17 Pro, designed to be the most powerful iPhone ever, but you're also thinking about the traffic on your way to the store or transferring all your data. Good news. When you order a new phone online with Boost mobile and they'll send an expert to your home. How about that? Or home. Or work to deliver your brand new iPhone pro and get you set up on Boost Mobile within minutes. No hassle. So how about that? You get the new iPhone, it comes right to you and a tech comes in, get all your stuff transferred, get you set up on the network. Visit Boost mobile.com to get started. Delivery available for select devices purchased at Boost Mobile. Terms, of course, do apply.
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Damani
So yesterday Baxter Holmes of ESPN dropped a story about the sale of the Lakers into the piece. It also discussed how Jeannie Buss grew frustrated with LeBron and didn't even want to sign him to a new contract in 2024. Even talked about shipping them off to the Clippers. What do you make of all this?
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Dan
Okay, so a couple and Jeannie buses today came out and you know, basically refuted some of this. Let me say this on the front end, the thrust of this story is not about LeBron and everyone should read the story. It is superb reporting by a superb reporter in Baxter Holmes who does great work, really great work for espn. And you know, it is very long and very good about the Bus family and the sale of the Lakers. Okay that if I were doing Los Angeles talk radio, that would be one of the the major topic of the day on this platform. I don't know how many people care about the palace intrigue of the Bus family sale of the Lakers. So I'm going to focus on the LeBron piece of it because I am interested in that. But I again, I just want to give credit to the story and to Baxter for and say on the front end this is not the general plot point of the story, but I'm going to read you the LeBron section and then I'm going to briefly explain why it enrages me. From Backstroam's story. Team sources told ESPN she even began to turn against the lakers star player LeBron James. Jeannie privately grumbled people close to the team say about what she felt was James's outsized ego and the overt control that he and Clutch Sports, which represents both James and Davis, exerted over the organization. She didn't like that James was considered a savior for a floundering franchise when he arrived in 2018 and that it was he who chose the Lakers rather than the team's leadership receiving praise for landing him. More on that in a moment. Team sources have been adamant for years that James's camp informed the Lakers as early as 2017 that he was coming to join them when he became a free agent the following year. The distance between Jeannie and James widened after the Lakers traded for Russell Westbrook in July of 2021. The team had made the trade in an effort to appease James, but the acquisition backfired in catastrophic fashion. Louisiana went 33 and 49 missed the playoffs, and James seemed to wash his hands of his role in the acquisition. Jeannie privately bristled about what she felt was his lack of accountability in the way James would shift blame onto others after the Westbrook trade, people said in 2022, in the aftermath of the Westbrook trade, multiple people said Jeannie privately mused about not giving James a contract extension, even about trading James with the Clippers floated as a possibility. This was before James received a contract extension which, with a no trade clause for two years, $104 million. And when the Lakers drafted James son Bronny with the 55th pick, Jeannie privately remarked that James should be grateful for such a gesture. But she felt he wasn't. That summer, as she discussed new contract for James, Jeannie seemed more resigned to the fact that they'd have to do it, almost begrudgingly accepting they'd take a massive PR hit by not okay, The reason this that's the, that's the piece and now this is me not reading the piece, just talking. The reason LeBron James considered himself a savior for a floundering franchise was simply because he was a savior for a floundering franchise. It's not complicated. It's not weird, it's not hard to fucking parse. The reason LeBron considered the Lakers a floundering franchise is because before he got there, they were a floundering franchise. And the reason he considered himself a savior was because within two years of getting there, they won the championship. The Los Angeles Lakers had never been bad. Back to Minneapolis Demons a their second year in existence in the league. Actually, no, pardon me, their first year in existence when they went from the Detroit gyms who were bad to the Minneapolis Lakers with George Mikin, they won the championship. They then won a bunch more championships in the 50s. Then in the 60s they went to the finals almost every year. Lost to the Celtics a bunch. Then in the 70s they got Kareem Abdul Jabbar and then in the 80s were the most successful team in the NBA. Then in the 90s they had their one tiny downturn, which was a 33 win team that missed the playoffs. And shortly thereafter they got Shaquille o' Neal and drafted Kobe Bryant or traded for him. And they were awesome again. The Los Angeles Lakers. I'm giving the full context here. Prior to the 2000 and tens, Daman say here is the full list of years they were not in the playoffs, either Minneapolis or Los Angeles. 1958, 1975 and 76, that's when they traded for Kareem. 1994 and 2005, that's the list. From the 50s until the 2000 and tens, they had always been excellent flourishing. And then in the five years before LeBron got there, they missed the playoffs five times and won the following number of games. 27, 21, 17, 26, 35. So all of Lakers history, five years, missed the playoffs from Minneapolis to LA across damn near 65 years. And then the five years before LeBron got there,. They missed the playoffs five times. Their their finishes in the Western Conference again, 15 teams in the Western Conference the five years before LeBron got there, 14, 14, 14, 15th, 14th, 11th. They were arguably the worst team in basketball for a half decade. That is a floundering franchise that was saved. 1. Some people think that if you save something or someone, you might consider yourself a savior. By LeBron James wanting to move to Los Angeles, not by Rob Belinka or Jeannie Buss's fancy PowerPoint presentation. So that is what happened. Now, does LeBron have an outsized ego? I've heard that. Does clutch sports exhibit a lot of influence over the Lakers? Seems to be. Did LeBron James want Russell Westbrook? Yes. Did that work out? No. But LeBron James wanted a bunch of things. LeBron James wanted Ty Lou to be his coach. They said no to that. LeBron James wanted Paul George on the Lakers. That didn't happen. LeBron, there's. There's plenty of things LeBron wanted they didn't do, and plenty of things LeBron wanted they did do. The Lakers choosing to say yes to the request for Russell Westbrook because the Lakers brand is stars, when they had said no to other things and yes to other things, and then acting like LeBron is the one who called it into the league office and washing their hands of it entirely, but then also whining about LeBron helping them get Anthony Davis, which then allowed them to get Luka Doncic and win a championship, is laughable. And complaining to people a year after the guy wins Finals MVP for you and you win a championship. That you don't want to give him a contract extension and you might actually trade him only to give him a two year max contract extension with a no trade clause is laughable. Dr. Jerry Buss was one of the greatest owners in the history of pro basketball. Jeannie Buss by all accounts is an incredibly nice person who has a lot of friends in the media. The new owners of the Lakers. Are going to get the team back on the track it had been for Dr. Jerry Buss entire tenure and the track that it had fallen off of entirely until LeBron James came to Los Angeles and saved the damn team.
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